How do I stop hating women for their slutty pasts? Pic very related

The point of the comic is to make rational decisions based on a person's history. By all means, take a history of infidelity into account when choosing a mate, but it does not follow to hate them for it. Your hatred has a different root cause.

>>18344394
I read that as "slutty pastas" at first and was expecting a much funnier thread.

>Not dating someone for their past infidelity
A perfectly valid reason for not dating someone

>Not dating someone for being a "slut"
You're a hypocrite and a misogynist. No one will ever love you.

>>18344394
Don't worry. The real issue here is that you feel insecure and dislike yourself, and have either been rejected by women in the past, or are too scared to ask them out to begin with. You resent women for their pasts because you're upset they are willing to be intimate with someone that isn't you, or you're making up excuses. By rejecting them as sluts, you can avoid having to face rejection yourself.

Get good with yourself, and accept that rejection is an unavoidable part of life.

>>18344510
>Every guy who has a problem with female promiscuity is insecure and projecting
Can we please kill this meme

>>18344394
You hate women because they have an incredibly easy life and they percieve their lives as harder than the rest
That's hating someone for their circumstances, you don't hate a poor person for being poor and you don't hate a crazy person because he hides in a corner and screams
If you want to hate someone hate them for their actions instead but be aware that you are no longer hating women you are hating liars or cheaters or people that take advantage of others

>>18344523
It would be easier to kill if it weren't true the overwhelming majority of the time.

>>18344523

But it's true. It's not even a stereotype, really. It's just true 100% of the time.

>>18344535
>>18344536

And what evidence do you have to prove that it is true, other than an armchair psychoanalysis?

>>18344454
>Hypocrite and misoginist
That's a funny way of saying people have a whide variety of things they want in a partner, most men want a girl who didn't sleep around, most men don't care if other ment slept around because most men don't have any desire to pursue a romantic relationship with other men
I'm sure you have tons of expectations that sound completely idiotic to me as well and I'm sure most of your friends aren't rich, handsome and have three active hobbies on top of playing music and practicing sports
Funny how it's a different standard when it comes to people we fuck but then again you are a slut and you don't have any standard over the people you fu k

>>18344394

Is it sluttiness you hate? Or cheating? Or both?

>>18344535
>>18344536
>being a samefagging cunt
Kill yourself.

>>18344538
What evidence do you have to the contrary?

>>18344538

The only reason anyone lashes out, or anything lashes out really, is when they feel threatened.

Being insecure about fidelity doesn't make you a bad person or a weak person. It can be a terrible feeling to be cheated on, and very rational to want to avoid it.

But it becomes unhealthy when these insecurities cause you to avoid even healthy, honest relationships, and avoid risking committing to anything or anyone for fear of being cheated on.

>>18344542
>most men want a girl who didn't sleep around
By your logic most men are hypocrites and misogynists then, sorry.

>I'm sure you have tons of expectations that sound completely idiotic to me as well
If something sounds idiotic to you maybe your judgement is just idiotic senpai.

>I'm sure most of your friends aren't rich, handsome and have three active hobbies on top of playing music and practicing sports
Of course not. Why does this matter? (pro tip it doesn't)

>>18344557
That's fallacious. Your job is to actually corroborate your own argument.

>>18344394
I actually don't get what's the big deal about sucking a cock at a bachelorette party. The majority of women play two men at the same time and swing between them like a monkey from branches, and to me that's deceitful and heartless, much worse than sucking a cock once.

Sucking a cock at a party is hedonistic and a little gross, but you're seriously overestimating people if you dump a woman for this alone. You had better be some kind of top tier man to make demands like this in a liberal society. I understand you have conservative values but this isn't la la land where whatever you believe manifests as reality.

You can say, "I'll find a conservative girl then," but most ascetics are honestly kidding themselves and will eventually go out and binge like there's no tomorrow.

Someone is going to say I'm a female for understanding how society works and condoning sucking a cock at a bachelor party, but I'm not.

Someone is then going to call me a cuck.

A man needs to be in a committed relationship to be cucked. I'm not gonna try to put a wedding ring on a ho and then get upset when she's a ho.

You boys need to grow up.

>>18344558
Not liking something =/= "lashing out"

OP never even said they were avoiding any relationships. You're making all kinds of assumptions.

>>18344561
And I'm not about to run a fucking scientific study on this shit either. I have personal experience. That's about it.

>that's not proof

I don't give a shit.

If I wanted to have a fucking debate, I would join my college debate team. You have something to say to the contrary, go ahead and say it. But fuck off with your logical fallacy bullshit.

>>18344583
>I base my beliefs on my limited life experience. Take your logic somewhere else.

Ha ha.

>>18344583
Exactly, your limited anecdotal evidence doesn't account for shit

>fuck off with your logical fallacy bullshit.
Translation: I know my argument is horseshit and I can hardly elaborate on it, so just fuck off so I don't have to actually defend it

>>18344559
So you are the averagelonely angry cunt who gets way too mad over not getting her way in every situation and must look at someone (men) to blame for her own shortcomings right?
Good luck with your life of misery and lack of self growth then, I'm sure you will make every single mistake your mother made and end up exactly like her you fucking waste of a generation

>>18344581

Calling women sluts is lashing out. Telling people who try to reason with you to kill themselves is lashing out.

Maybe look back on your thoughts and behavior, and think about why it's seen as lashing out.

>>18344590
>Calling women sluts is lashing out.
Not necessarily

>Telling people who try to reason with you to kill themselves is lashing out.
Agreed, but it's 4chan and everyone says that, plus I don't even think that was OP

>>18344510
Nah, most people who resent women for their sexual past don't notice the experiences unless they are explicitly told.

But you know what people do notice? That she's no longer innocent and sweet, she has a careless attitude that makes her particularly unappealing. Other aspects of her person become weird or ugly somehow. And sex and relationships do change people.

That said. I personally don't have a problem with the body count issue, just the demeanor shift issue. But not everyone turns out that way. I'm not perfect or anything, but I do tend to have an ideal behavior in mind when I think of a good woman.

>>18344561

Different Anon but do some basic psychology, sociology, or classical reading desu. Here's just one excerpt from one article

>But what he has to say in Why Men Hate Women (Free Association Books pounds 15.95) is unequivocal and challenging. At the risk of being dubbed an Uncle Tom by his own sex and an unpalatable aficionado of feminism, he suggests, contentiously, that the genesis of misogyny lies in what happens, early on, between boys and their mothers. He argues that the feminist analysis of a male-orchestrated culture serving up endless demeaning and damaging images of women, and allowing boys to believe from a very young age that they are entitled to have power over the opposite sex, is right, but that it does not go far enough.

>The effect of this, according to Mr Jukes' theory, which draws on a wide range of sources from Freud and Melanie Klein to Nancy Chodorow and Dorothy Dinnerstein, is devastating. The child begins to feel that dependency and vulnerability at the hands of a woman are dangerous, and the conflict he experiences evokes fear and sadistic feelings. Mr Jukes says: 'He has to repress those feelings, but at some level the the boy decides never again to allow a woman such power over him. I believe (that decision) is made by all men, whatever the particular form or intensity it adopts in adulthood.'

>For example? 'Shouting, swearing, using intimidating gestures, being highly critical of, say, a woman's abilities as a mother, her physical appearance, humiliating her in front of people - there are so many ways that men set out to control women and which are considered quite acceptable. I know some women behave this way towards men, but the crucial difference is that they do not have cultural support in doing so. Nor do men feel the fear women live with, that a man may turn to violence.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/boys-will-be-misogynists-mens-hatred-of-women-begins-in-infancy-psychotherapist-adam-jukes-tells-1483437.html

>>18344597
He's right, statistically speaking. I don't have anything against being very sexually active in itself, but it comes with a bunch of caveats. Most people could be doing something more agreeable with their time like going to school, working, volunteering, or making art. Most young people are attractive enough to form long-lasting, fruitful relationships, so you have to wonder why this person can't do that.

>>18344576
>you have to be a top tier man just to "demand" a woman not suck other mens dicks while in what's supposed to be a monogamous relationship with you

You're not fooling anyone bitch.

>>18344597

You might be right, but I personally think the cause and effect is more the opposite. I think it's more that women who have a hard time forming caring attachments sleep around more, not that sleeping around causes detachment. But maybe that's semantics. There's a wide range of women out there, you're into what you're into.

>tfw get to a low point in my life where i started fucking hookers
>tfw hookers, who are women, literally warp your view of women
>sometimes its like a irl porn scene, other times its dirty talk and kinky shit til you get to the sex
>tfw picking up whores was easy, almost too easy
>tfw realize all woman are is just a hole to fuck
>realize sex means nothing and start to have legit friendships with women because the pussy is no longer on a pedestal

Lad just get over it. A relationship is more than sex

>>18344597
That's retarded
Want to know if a girl slept around here is a checklist
1 is she female?
2has she gone through puberty?

>>18344605
>'Shouting, swearing, using intimidating gestures, being highly critical of, say, a woman's abilities as a mother, her physical appearance, humiliating her in front of people
Nowadays, none of that comes with the "cultural support" that she claims supports it.

>>18344605
Believing that nobody could ever have any legitimate reason to hate you other than his own shortcomings is entirely narcissistic, let's discuss that instead

>>18344616
Romance is a story where a fair maiden (you already know there are almost none of these) is swept away by a handsome knight (you already know you're not this).

Your dream isn't real.

Also I'm not a female, and I don't give a shit what you think.

>>18344647
Jokes on you, I'm very handsome and also happen to be a knight

>>18344628
>That's retarded
You think this is how legitimate discussions are conducted? You're too young to be using this site.

I'm here looking at both the male virgins hiding behind a veil of conservatism, and the slutty females riding on some pretend liberal cause, and I'm shaking my head at all of you.

Basic truths are escaping all of you here. You're a bunch of children.

>>18344622
No, I prefer a decent woman. But I can see myself forgiving someones past. My own past isn't perfect. I empathize with humanity, life ain't easy mode.

And I agree that detatchment can be more obvious in the person. But it may also have something to do with issues in their upbringing. If the girl had daddy issues, got used by her first few bf's and dumped because she was "too clingy" or some other hurtful shit to do to a girl.. of course she will turn out a trainwreck when those who love her make her to be detached. So many reasons could be the case.

Most important to me is a girls inner self, her perseverance, her inner strength, an unshaken demeanor, someone who wont become whatever society or her girlfriends think she should or could be. And there I feel like I'm asking for a lot.

>>18344585
>>18344586

Have another one you faggots

>

Others also spoke about anxieties about being compared to exes. The 32-year-old said his wife only has a couple of men in her past, which makes it easier for him to let go of anxiety about where he falls in her sexual rankings. “My gut reaction would be self-consciousness about if I was the biggest or the best, or if she was happy with me, or if the guy before me was better than I was,” he said. The 26-year-old said that his girlfriend’s number didn’t trouble him at all when he first learned it, near the start of their relationship. But as their relationship progressed, it started to bother him—which in itself bothers him. “I don’t know if I’m too sensitive or it’s something that happens when you get more attached to someone,” he said. “Suddenly you start feeling more jealous about things from the past.”

>This was maybe the most intriguing theme running through my conversations. It’s not that these men judge women for having active sexual pasts. It’s that the women’s sexual pasts lead these men to judge themselves.

www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2015/07/do_straight_men_care_about_their_girlfriends_number_in_honor_of_trainwreck.html

Anecdotal evidence isn't quantitative but there's a reason why courts will rule in favor of ten people saying someone did a crime and can also verify all those persons were at the scene. Honestly you're going to use an availability heuristic with your own cognitive biases and end up coming around to lick your own asshole once again but until someone does quantitative analysis on this subject we're stuck and I don't really see a lot of people or grants lining up to do fund this sort of research desu

>>18344653
I think that's idyllic and most people will have to compromise, but I commend you for not being sexist, since that's what you seem to be looking for.

>>18344650
>maybe I am a knight xD
so you just got btfo then

>>18344642

Hating a woman =! Hating women

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>>18344657
>faggots

>>18344653
>Most important to me is a girls inner self, her perseverance, her inner strength, an unshaken demeanor, someone who wont become whatever society or her girlfriends think she should or could be. And there I feel like I'm asking for a lot.

Look within yourself first desu

>>18344652
I don't think anyone is arguing that people change and people keep riding the idea that a woman riding dicks is going to fundamentally break her. Not wanting to date someone because they're a shitty person is fine but sleeping with people doesn't make them a shitty person it's a false correlation

>>18344663

I honestly feel like y'all should just be gay if you're so judgemental about a woman's sexual history but not a man's.

>>18344657
>Here's some more """evidence""" from this .com article written by a woman

>>18344665
>sleeping with [a large number] of people doesn't make someone a shitty person. it's a false correlation.

and you're on 4chan, so people's logic is gonna get a little fuzzy. at least they admitted it here.

the truth is, and maybe you're not gonna accept this, that people more likely to be called "sluts" have their relationships and marriages fail way way more often. there is a direct correlation between promiscuity and relationship failure. this doesn't apply to everyone, but it's completely statistically relevant.

most people are not "shitty people" in the sense that they're cartoon evil and intend to hurt others, but people get angry when their relationships go unfairly, even if the reason they went unfairly is due to some kind of psychological issue and not ill intent.

>>18344605
Let's pick this apart
First of all who are you basing this study on, if you believe every culture presents the same relationship between mother and son you are a moron, just look at how Jewish people see mother's and let me remind you the claim to be a Jew is inherited by mother only Wich is the opposite of how the west works, and tell me their incredibly co dependant relationship with constant fighting and manipulation resembles the average American who ignores his elderly parents as soon as he becomes an adult

Second the claim the child
Begins to believe that dependency and vulnerability on the hands of women is an oximoron dependency and vulnerability is dangerous, it's common for women because women don't have the muscle mass men have, women aren't built for survival like men are, women have to carry pregnancy for nine months and raise a child for years and if a woman becomes ugly she is disadvanged , dependency and vulnerability aren't seen as positive traits by men because we are biologically wired not to be that way the second way you are biologically wired to bleed out of your vegina every month

>For example? 'Shouting, swearing, using intimidating gestures, being highly critical of, say, a woman's abilities as a mother, her physical appearance, humiliating her in front of people - there are so many ways that men set out to control women and which are considered quite acceptable
Are you telling me with a straight face that this doesn't happen the other way around at all?

Hate away my friend. Those sluty chicks will probably give you aids anyway. What you need is girl from the Philippines who is just happy to have a microwave. She'll never cheat on you, because she doesn't want to go back to the hovel she crawled out from. Even if she does just go to the girl tree and pick another one.

>>18344652
I have never held a legitimate discussion with a toddler or a dog or the mentally crippled and I'm not going to start now

>>18344662
Hating me = hating women

>>18344689
do you talk to yourself?

I don't have any dog in this fight but it seems like your bitterness is clouding your judgement but not in the cool sith lord way just kind of a sad way

>>18344670

>Seth
>a woman

Hoboy

>>18344653
but I don't know.. i dunno

Empathy now...

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Wow OP here, didn't expect to come back and see my thread grow this much haha Mandatory front page edit:

To the person who wrote I dislike myself and I'm insecure. I disagree strongly. I'm insecure in the OTHER person. Not myself. I dislike the PERSONS past, not my own.

To the people saying not dating someone who cheats is different from dating a slut.. I don't think so.. both are pretty bad.

Well anyways I'm just stoked to see this make it to the front page! Thanks for responding guys

>>18344694

There's school tomorrow Tommy go to bed

>>18344701
you're a real special guy

*kiss*

>>18344605
>'Shouting, swearing, using intimidating gestures, being highly critical of, say, a woman's abilities as a mother, her physical appearance, humiliating her in front of people - there are so many ways that men set out to control women and which are considered quite acceptable.
What?

I've only seen a man try to break down a woman like that in public a handful of times, and every single time someone intervened. Screaming at a woman calling her a dumb whore is not a publicly accepted method.

>>18344665
You are missing the point entirely
Not wanting to date someone based on wathever arbitrary reason you have is completely fine and should never be questioned
You have the right not to date a man who doesn't wear a watch
The same way a gayan has the right not to date a woman. Just because she isn't a man
And I have the right not to date a woman because she slept around a lot
That's it any reason not to be attracted to someone is a valid reason

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>>18344701

>>18344696
>do you talk to yourself?
No, what's the point? Since I'm always right and dealing only with myself neglects third party stupidity that may get in the way
You are demanding respect you haven't earned based on some claim of mathurity you haven't proven
Believing the words matter more than the message in them makes you exactly what I claimed of you, I don't bother arguing with people like you like I do t bother arguing with a dog, a dog will bark at me and you will spoute out of place flawed rethoric, know your place, it's at the kids table.

>>18344729
to quote the famous philosopher Playdough

>>18344708
>>18344724

I was being ironic haha was it funny? ... u want sum fuk?

>>18344749
I don't know, but I blew two people up here, daddy

>>18344740
>>18344647

do you like it?

>>18344765
Whats your kik mommy? We're calling each other mommy and daddy thats how this roleplay works right??? We need to go to the grocery store soon to get more groceries mommy ;) :) ;) ;)

>>18344775
word of advice, you're coming on a bit too strong at the moment

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>>18344781
Word of advice I care 0 shits about what you think. Your social judgment means nothing to me and I was just kidding with my post. BUT HOOO BOOYY AM I TRIGGERED RIGHT NOW THOUGH.

Dumb skanks and cucks like you who judge people socially like that are the worst kind of normie cancer ever. To think you're actually better than me.. disgusting. I know your type, youre the boring undistinguishable masses of normie. You're not good enough to judge me and offer advice as a coy insult you fucktard.