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24 m here. Never had any such experiences before now so I never thought about it.
But now I've been dating this girl for about a month. We have gotten to third base but no further.
Now we both want to have Actual Sex™ but are worried about pregnancy. Neither parenthood nor abortion sound like an acceptable failure to either of us.

We're not planning to do anything careless like trying to pull out. Still, the "98% even with correct use" condom statistic worries me. How big of a risk is that, anyway?

I've also read about the pill. Is it expensive? Are the side effects worth it? She seems to be turned off a bit by the idea of taking a daily pill, so I don't want to pressure her, but she also doesn't seem very well-read on that topic so maybe I can convince her.

I also have mild phimosis. Never took care of it because I didn't think I'd ever lose my virginity. Is it possible that it might cause condom slippage or some kind of injury?

Would condom + pill be overkill? I feel like I'd like to do it without a condom at some point.

I'm pretty worried about all of this. Am I being paranoid or is it a reasonable risk to be afraid of? Any help appreciated.
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>dating this girl for about a month.
you should be wearing a condom anyway, you never know these days.
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If you both want to do the dirty then you'll have to risk it.
Condoms are good as long as you apply them correctly. There is always a risk though. The pill is useful but it does come with risk as well, and while you can suggest it, it's entirely up to your gf. As for expenses, condoms are the cheapest. If she has Healthcare the cost of the pill can be covered.
The rubber and pills aren't overkill, but a damn good option for stopping a baby. Just because she's on the pill don't go thinking you can cum inside her. Some women forget, others may try to surprise you. Always cover up.

If you want to err on the side of caution, they do sell condoms with spermicide in them. Use those.
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>>18342168

You are being paranoid to be h onest. There are alot of girls who get it without protection at all and dont get pregnant.

I would suggest you become a Fapper, fap at least once if not twice a day. This will keep your spermcount rather low.


Take off the condom and go bare.
(and use spermicide lubricant, you'll need lube to make it go along smoothly anyway)

Do this shortly after her period is over, about 4 days. This is called the rhythm method. She has very little chance of getting pregnant from this, even if you're a hung black dude with a billion sperm per load.

When you're about to finish try to cum midway inside, not full penis length but not shallow that way you both still get the enjoyment of it. And then keep thrusting until you get soft.

After you finish... try to get hard again as quickly as possible and continue (passionate kissing should help with that). But do not finish in her the second time.

The shape of the penis tip is evolutionary, it will start pulling out cum that you left inside successively with each thrust.

I had sex with a girl bare and I tried to hide the fact I came and I just kept thrusting until it spontaneously got soft (it was intense). When I fell out I noticed a glop of cum was on my dick.

> spermicide ought to mitigate most of the sperm left in there, and the natural acidity of the vaginal juices ought to kill the rest.

Guys need ALOT of sperm to just get over the fact that the opening to the uterus is so small, the vaginal juices are deadly, and if the Cum falls out quickly it will carry a bunch of those sperm with it. And not all the sperm are eligible either, straight swimmers.

> you're being paranoid
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>>18342168
>Still, the "98% even with correct use" condom statistic worries me. How big of a risk is that, anyway?
The 2% failure rate is from women who poke holes in the condom to get pregnant intentionally, and from the few cases where the condom breaks and nobody notices it until you've ejaculated AND it doesn't have spermicide.

>I've also read about the pill. Is it expensive? Are the side effects worth it? She seems to be turned off a bit by the idea of taking a daily pill, so I don't want to pressure her, but she also doesn't seem very well-read on that topic so maybe I can convince her.
Very cheap, side effects are minor desu, and there are beneficial effects (skin clearance tends to be better). Wear a condom anyway because women will just suddenly decide not to take the pill sometimes and not tell you.

>I also have mild phimosis. Never took care of it because I didn't think I'd ever lose my virginity. Is it possible that it might cause condom slippage or some kind of injury?
I have no fucking idea. Just peel your foreskin back carefully and gradually in the shower. That's what every fucking phimosis thread on here eventually results in.

>Would condom + pill be overkill? I feel like I'd like to do it without a condom at some point.
Not at all. Especially if the girl can't be relied on to take her pill.
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Realize that the pill is as reliable as condoms are with regular use. (Perfect use means taking the pill at the same time every single day, which is very hard to pull off for most young girls with irregular lives.) Plus you can combine condoms with spermicide to make it safer.
Condoms and pill combined are not unheard of.

It is completely understandable that you want to try sex without condoms as well... but realize that the pill comes with a BUNCH of potential side effects for women, including but not limited to
>depression and suicidal thoughts
>weight gain
>loss of sex drive (there's a joke that how the pill works is that it makes the woman not want to have sex anymore, thus preventing pregnancy)
>acne (hit or miss there)
>hair loss

So if she really does not want to take them than you have a difficult case.
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Also realize that the pill is 100% effective when taken properly. The "failures" are ONLY because the woman failed to take it. It is physiologically impossible for a woman to become pregnant by vaginal intercourse when her blood levels of estrogen are heightened by birth control.
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I don't know why you won't come inside her, Anon.
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>>18343219
>this will keep your sperm count low
holy fuck this post is the most retarded thing I've seen all day, and it's my day off and I've spent the entire day reading retarded 4chan posts.

Fapping won't change the probability of getting her pregnant.
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Since this thread is still up:

I've tried practicing putting on some condoms. I don't think I've failed to follow any instructions - roll it down while holding the tip, right?
But when I tried fapping with it later, the tip of it wasn't smooth - it kept folding in under the foreskin (phimosis, remember) and it looked creased, like in a horror movie when the killer tries to suffocate someone with a plastic bag.

Is this normal? It felt okay when I did it by myself. Didn't look very aesthetic but I can deal with that, but if it's a safety risk then I'd rather fix my condom technique or my foreskin.
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>>18345060
I would advice on trying few different brands and sizes if one doesn't seem like a good fit
Also make sure you are properly hard as it might be bit awkward doing that stuff alone.
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