Wife getting naked around other dudes

>>18319156
Man up pussy

>>18319173
I am manning up by dealing with the problem and getting advice here.

>>18319156
>if it would be possible if transgender and lesbian women would be at these groups?
Absolutely. I don't see how that would be a problem though, transgender women passable enough to go to naked yoga would probs have their sex drive nuked to death by hormones and they wouldn't be interested in your woman in the first place.
There are lesbians everywhere. You can't avoid it. Though Naked yoga is kind of a weird place to pick up chicks.
What you can do however is deal with your insecurity , because you clearly are insecure.

What's the point? Yoga is already sexual enough without getting naked.

>>18319181
>What you can do however is deal with your insecurity , because you clearly are insecure.
You don't have to be insecure to have a problem with your wife wanting to get naked in a room full of strangers for no good reason.

>Because she wants to do it

is not a good reason

>>18319156
Just let her do it, it's a pretty random thing for you but i bet that's something she always wanted to do. Besides you won't be a cuck from her doing these things. You probably have too much control over that poor thing anyways

>I am a sexual libertarian
>No! You can't do that, your body belongs to me.
Which is it?

>>18319186
he's insecure because :
-Basically I would be totally ok with it if it was just a bunch of naked straight girls who weren't checking each other out.

He can't control that , his wife can't do that

OP I would maybe try to talk to the yoga instructor

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>>18319156
>>18319177

In my personal opinion you're being kind of a baby. It seems to me that the only thing being affected and/or damaged by this is your pride. So some guy will see your wife's tits. I don't see the big deal.

There's no touching, there's no sexual overtones, photography, filming or public interaction; just a bunch of consenting adults in a room naked. Maybe its just me but I don't understand this giant hang up about nudity and why it always has to be inexorably linked to sexuality; why its not possible for a room full of adults to act like adults and experience the naked form without jealousy or posessiveness being involved.

I guess it boil's down to the mentality that you believe your wife's naked body is yours and only yours to see and enjoy and perhaps another man seeing it is some kind of betrayal or defacement of your property. Like, its not enough that your wife and a bunch of grown adults consent to exposing their naked imperfections to each other in a controlled, non-sexual environment, the only way you would be okay with it is if there was no possibility of sexual attraction to occur. The focal point of this entire dilemma is your comfort, not whether or not your comfort is based on mature, objective reasoning.

I dunno. This is just how I view the world. You asked for opinions and this is mine. I don't see the big deal. My doctor and a whole room full of people saw my wife naked giving birth. Her massage therapist sees her naked. The women at the gym see her naked. We went to a nude swimming hole and people saw her naked. It had no impact or affect on our relationship. At the end of the day she comes home to me and has sex with me only. Thats what matters to me.

Personally, this is just kind of seems like an antiquated hangup . Its just nudity, dude. There are tons of situations in modern day life where nudity isn't considered sexual so I don't understand why it has to be in this one.

>>18319181
How am I insecure? I trust her not to cheat. I just don't like the idea of her being sexually ogled.

>>18319218
this anon said it better than me
>>18319210

>>18319156
All girls are bi, Anon, and they check each other out. This has been as true for the past 3 years as it is for right now. If your wife was going to fuck around with lesbianism then she's already doing it behind your back. I don't see anything wrong with her doing naked yoga in a female-only group; the reason she wants to do it is because it seems a bit exhibitionist which is liberating and exciting for her, and it could very well increase her libido and make her more willing to be adventurous with you.

If you're really this insecure about it, offer to pick her up/drop her off and claim you need to use the bathroom real quick to scope out the place a bit. Spend a day being nude around your house with her to maybe understand a little what she's going for.

>>18319218

>I just don't like the idea of her being sexually ogled.

If she's ever been out in public before she's been sexually ogled. What does her being ogled have to do with your relationship, and most importantly, have you entertained the idea that just because you don't like the idea of something that you're correct to feel that way?

Have you never been incorrect about a feeling you had?

Think of it like this, every day we, as men, fight our primitive brains with our logical ones. A guy walks by our girlfriend in the street and stares too long and our monkey brains say to pounce and bash his brains in but we don't because we use logic to rectify our "feelings" with the reality of situations.

If you actually think about it outside the scope of your feelings, this is a complete non-issue. I'm assuming your wife has been with a man before you. He's seen her naked. He'll forever walk around with images in his head of her body and what effect does it have at all on the current state of your relationship? None.

So another guy finds your wife attractive and wants to have sex with her. Ok. How does this affect your relationship? It doesn't. This happens every day. What if your wife wears a bikini to the beach and she's sexually ogled? Is she not allowed to wear bikinis anymore? Would she not allowed to appear, in any way, as an attractive woman that another man might desire?

You need to ask yourself these questions. What exactly are you preserving by making sure no other human being sees your wife naked? What aspect of your relationship, safety or dignity are you protecting by not allowing her to be nude in a controlled, non-sexual environment?

Personally, I just don't see what you achieve by making sure no other man ever looks at her and finds her sexually appealing, especially when you're talking about completely non-sexual contexts.

Whats the point?

>>18319156
Mathematician here, what is the intuition behind naked yoga? what purpose does it serve?

>>18319156
She could do naked yoga at home, she wants to meet someone and fuck, you are not satisfying her sexually either get gud or divorce, you small dicked faggot

>>18319282
If she wanted to "meet someone and fuck" why would she even tell me about it? She likes yoga groups. She does yoga by herself everyday and she says its boring.

>>18319294

>She likes yoga groups. She does yoga by herself everyday and she says its boring.

So then, as someone who claims to be a sexual libertarian, why does her being naked in a yoga class matter to you at all? I'm curious because you've done a bit of a poor job at responding to some of the more concise, in depth advice provided in the past few posts. You seem to only be responding to the trolls which makes me think this thread is just bait.

>>18319330
Sexual libertarian means I am ok with weed and porn but am strongly monogamous. I dont want other guys having that over me. I dont want other guys visualizing her naked. It makes me uncomfortable.

>>18319268
It's just a form of nudism. The yoga aspect is a way to keep it separate from everything else (making it effectively more safe, so to speak) and a logical step in terms of being more in touch with yourself and nature. It's just a fairly bog-standard (and very minor) form of hippy shit.

>>18319294
>If she wanted to "meet someone and fuck" why would she even tell me about it

dude she told you she wants to do "naked group yoga", she thought she's being slick, she wants you to be ok with it.

>>18319336

>Sexual libertarian means I am ok with weed and porn but am strongly monogamous.

That's not what sexual libertarian means.

>It makes me uncomfortable.

In order to get the real answer to your question here you need to decouple yourself from the idea that something making you uncomfortable makes it bad. Asking yourself these deep, probing questions about why you feel the way you feel about things will reveal exactly where these instincts stand logically.

I am uncomfortable when my doctor checks my prostate but my logical mind knows its a good thing to have done. I am uncomfortable dropping my daughter off on her first day of kindergarten or letting her stay at a friends house overnight but my logical brain tells me its an important part of her development. I am uncomfortable when my wife stays out of town on rock climbing trips but my logical brain tells me that its unrealistic for me to ask her to never travel or go anywhere.

You see what I'm getting at here? If you remember adolescence you remember that you experienced TONS of feelings and urges and pangs of jealousy that weren't logical at all but you still felt them.

You need to read this >>18319251, ask yourself these questions and give yourself honest answers. When someone asks you why you don't like something and the only answer you can procure is "I don't like it it makes me uncomfortable" thats a clue that you need to delve deeper and actually explore some of these feelings that brought you to that conclusion.

You need to stop using the assumption that your gut feelings are the correct ones because, as a fellow married man with a small child, you and I both know for a fact that not all of them are.

You're right to be afraid. All it takes is one ripped, enlightened yogi to take that class and your bitch will be getting wet as fuck whenever she sees him, best believe. And it's naked, oh boy she'll be dripping regardless, yoga is really hot and sexually tense, she is going to cheat on you with Daniel the instructor or Travis who will be stretching next to her, best believe Travis will be stretching her out in other ways soon

>>18319382
what about Jamal?

>>18319367
So you would be ok with your wife doing things like naked yoga and skinny dipping with other guys?

That's such a stupid fad. She's obviously bored and wants some thrill, and the only conclusion she sees without involving you is sexual thrill through yoga.

This is why I won't marry.

>>18319389
Jamal doesn't really do yoga. If you see Jamal doing yoga it's most likely Kumbo, Jamal's distant African cousin. He will also fuck OP's wife

>>18319415

>So you would be ok with your wife doing things like naked yoga and skinny dipping with other guys?

Yeah, perfectly fine. There is also a difference in going skinny dipping in a well known public place with her friends where other men just so happened to be and "going skinny dipping with other guys". She's not going with any guys, guys just so happen to be there.

There's actually a pretty cool hot springs about an hour out of town that we go soak in naked all the time. Other people are there, and there is never any issue. No one talks about it or get jealous about it, it just is. We're all adults hanging out naked in nature. Maybe that makes me a bit of a hippy but whatever, its fun, I don't really care. Like I said, just because there's nudity involved doesn't mean sexuality is also involved.

There are tons of situations in day to day life in which nudity is not interpreted sexually. I love and trust my wife and some naked yoga hippy dude seeing her tits doesn't matter to me at all. Its just nudity man. Its not a big deal. It literally has zero impact on our relationship.

>>18319210
>Maybe its just me but I don't understand this giant hang up about nudity and why it always has to be inexorably linked to sexuality

It's a social norm thing, and it's not about you or OP being an adult in this situation. You and OP could have a very mature view about nudism, but ultimately it only depends on your wife and the naked guys that see your wife naked. If something sparked between them, some urge "in the heat of the moment", there is not a single thing you or OP could do about it. It only takes 30 minutes ~ 1 hour in some secluded locker room. It might become addicting, too. And It is common knowledge that those urges are less likely to happen when people have clothes to cover their genitals.

I hope this isn't too hard to wrap your mind around.

>>18319420
I dont want to be involved because I dont want people to see me naked. I am fat and have stretch marks so its embarrassing. Plus I am irish so I have a farmers tan line where I am really pale. I dont look like one of these muscle magazine specimens. Besides even if I did I still wouldnt be comfortable because other guys would be there if its a intergender group.

>>18319389
My wife is Japanese she likes white guys and is turned off by black dudes.

>>18319461
Well, my advice would be let her if she was a girlfriend. Since you are bounded to her by law, you have to be afraid of losing her. If it was a girlfriend, innocent until proven guilty.

And what I mean is for you to not participate but to add some thrill. Is there anything going on in your life? Are you bored? Spice things up. Go on vacation. Change your environment. Sell the house. Pick up interests together that don't involve nudity.

Who knows, I will never have a wife. Can't stand the thought of dealing with a cheater legally bound to me.

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>>18319456

>It's a social norm thing, and it's not about you or OP being an adult in this situation.

Firstly, something being a "social norm" is not an argument for its validity. It has a very "bandwagon logical fallacy" vibe to it.

Secondly, it absolutely has everything to do with being an adult. Doctors view and touch nude patients. Actors get nude on set for specific scenes. People view each other nude in a gym. The unifying theme is that in order for all of these things to occur incident free it requires on the maturity of those involved to view nudity according to its context and act like an adult about it.

>ultimately it only depends on your wife and the naked guys that see your wife naked. If something sparked between them, some urge "in the heat of the moment", there is not a single thing you or OP could do about it

That's silly. The same exact thing could happen in any given situation with any two people at any time and pretending like nudity is the great variable that has the power to convert a loving, dedicated wife into a cheating whore is absolutely ridiculous.

>It might become addicting

If your wife wants to cheat on you, clothes or not, there is nothing you can do about it. Anything MIGHT become addicting; aliens with asses for faces MIGHT land tomorrow. Using hypothetical ifs as support for your argument is bunk logic, anon.

>And It is common knowledge that those urges are less likely to happen when people have clothes to cover their genitals.

If all it takes for your wife to decide to cheat on you is seeing another man's penis then you've married a crazy person and you have much bigger problems than casual nudity. The problem with your mentality is that it treats adults like children; HIDE ALL THE TEMPTATION SO NO ONE WILL CHEAT.

Real life doesn't work that way. Its maturity in these situations that prevents boundaries from being crossed, not controlling your wife's life in a way where boundaries being crossed is never a possibility.

>>18319156
>I'm a sexual libertarian

Obviously not much of one. Nudity isn't inherently sexual, and of course lesbians ans transwomen might be in these groups.

Either you trust your wife or you don't, those other people don't fucking matter.

>>18319496
I'm sorry you seem to be confused, you are asking why people think that way, I explained why people think that way, now you are on about logical validity when this whole issue isn't of logical nature to begin with. Together with a reaction image your post has a very 4chin pseudo intellectual vibe to it.

Unless you can formulate how people are sexually attracted to strangers as logical statements, either true or false, not "sometimes it's true, sometimes it's false", using implication, frames and quantifiers, please stop using the word logic. I mean you aren't even aware of the probabilistic nature of what you said when you think the logic that internet people use to argue with one another applies to it.

Also let's not worry about my "wife", I certainly don't have this issue you and OP seem to have :))

4chan has always been hilarious. I might reply again in 8 hours.

>>18319461
>I am fat
insecure of hotter yoga guys confirmed

>>18319545
I actually am not insecure of hotter guys because I have more money than those hotter guys. I make 66k per year.

Tell here to find a friend or a person that into it she doesn't need a group offer her a place in the house that she andher new yoga buddies can use if you r not comfortable with her outside your domain. She can do one those Meetup things to find people. Basic if Saw your wife at a nude yoga I definitely say hi.

Maybe just find her a gf that will come hang out with here to do the yoga

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>>18319539

>you are asking why people think that way, I explained why people think that way,

You explained using several loosely assembled logical fallacies and a bunch of unfounded "what ifs". There is nothing pseudo-intellectual about it, I'm just following your logic. It just so happens that your post contains none. You just word vomited a bunch of conjecture and generalizations.

Your argument was essentialy "WHAT IF SHE SEES A PENIS AND IS ATTRACTED TO IT AND CHEATS?" which, in and of itself is not an argument, its a loose description of some hypothetical event that may or may not have anything to do with the nudity, which if you'll remember, is what this thread is about.

So what if she sees some guy fully clothed and fucks him in a Walmart bathroom? What if she moves to Atlantic City and becomes a hooker? You see how "what ifs" don't actually lead us to any concrete arguments or observations?

You also failed to address any of the multiple ways I explained that nudity is viewed in our society as non-sexual. I responded to your post line by line with counter arguments and your only response was just a, vague, sarcastic paragraph that doesn't contain reference to any of the things I actually said. Basically I laid out an argument and you responded with "OH WOW WHAT AN ARGUMENT HAHA THAT ARGUMENT SUCKS" without explaining how with any kind of intelligent forethought.

At this point I'm just going to assume you're trolling. 7/10.

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>>18319566
The fact you have to qualify your (supposed) lack-of-insecurity with how you make so much money shows how insecure you are. You could have just said I'm not insecure because I'm find with who I am and I know my wife loves me. Those forty-year-olds in sports cars also don't have big dicks.

>the groups would be female only
Pics or it didn't happen.
>lesbian women
pics
>What should I do?
Pics
>Basically I would be totally ok with it if it was just a bunch of
Pics!

>>18319156
>Im a sexual libertarian
lol no. words mean specific things.

>>18319607
Libertarian is another word for conservative

>>18319210
You sound like a wimp and a cuck. The point of wifing a bitch is to claim her. That means nobody else gets her in a sexual capacity.
>There are tons of situations in modern day life where nudity isn't considered sexual so I don't understand why it has to be in this one.
Examples? Don't be a faggot and say nude beach because three quarters of the people who go to those are trying to see titties. Nudity is sexual and there is no separating the two in western society.

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she is leavening you.
brace for mental impact.

>>18319156
>But I am also kind of worried if it would be possible if transgender and lesbian women would be at these groups?


ur actually so fuckin stupid dude.... so fucking stupid....


trannies dont want ur fucking wife and lesbians have self control, ur literally just b8ing, gj btw.

You should be required to post your sex in a thread like this

>>18319156
Would your wife be okay with you pursuing a hobby that involves you being nude around women if you could give it a hipster justification? I'd venture to guess no. If she is, your relationship is dead and if she isn't then double standard.

>Catholic

You already fucked up.

>>18319804
At least she ain't Muslim

>>18319693
That logic is flawed because men's bodies aren't sexually arousing to either gender. But the female body is sexually arousing to both genders.

>>18319683
Lesbians actually can be predatory. Aj can trannys. Allot of male to female trannys are trying to turn straight women lesbian to legitimize their newfound womanhood.

>>18319210
Ya dude your a little bitch. Yoga already has sexual undertones. Letting your wife go to that naked is a huge bitch move.

>>18320562
Do you know any women? Straight women and gay men are definitely attracted to the male body.

What do you think sexual attraction is?

>>18319218
Typically when you do these sorts of activities, no one is there to get horny and start banging each other. I'm going to assume she's straight so if she was in a female-only group, she'd turn down attention she got. She would probably report any unwanted advances to her instructor if it were to happen too. You're worrying too much.

>>18320564
Do you personally know any trannies? They don't do this. Don't believe every greentext story you read on this website.

Is your wife hot? Post nudes so I can check. If she's ugly no one else will want her so you don't have to worry.

>>18319539
he is right anon.

>>18321836
nah, he started the whole thing with illogical statements that are neither true nor false, then asks for logical justification of how people should view something.
These are the typical keyboard warriors whom when presented with actual logical statements they couldn't make any argument, but love to fit logical fallacies into non logical, opinion based discussion, like this topic.

>>18321871
He is right, anon. Go ahead, present actual logical statements to counter him. He hasn't made a single wrong point.
This is all about you and your insecurities, and you don't even want to admit it.
This post >>18319367
nails it.

>>18319578
>>18321884


I really don't think you should keep talking about logical fallacies when the topic has nothing logical about it to begin with.
That anon was saying, for once in this site, people should be using the "logical argument" when the starting point of the discussion are actually a bunch of logical statements
. In your original posts there aren't any logical statement. ( in case you don't know what this means, logical statements can either be true or false).
So the answer is of course not based on formal logic. You can spend your whole day analyzing each sentence and fit a fallacy in it, but in the end it's just talking about things you don't understand.

Is your wife at all interested in women? Like heteroflexible? Cuz if not then i wouldnt worry about anything.

>>18321871
>These are the typical keyboard warriors whom when presented with actual logical statements they couldn't make any argument, but love to fit logical fallacies into non logical, opinion based discussion, like this topic.

this post actually nails it :)

>>18319210
i swear this is op and this whole thread is bait

>>18321889
>Blah
Dude, don't begin. I understand very well what logic is, and what you just wrote is not even helpful to anyone, except probabl to you, because it's meant to make you feel you better (even if it probably sounds good in your head).

The point is
>This is all about you and your insecurities, and you don't even want to admit it.

You can be insecure. It's not a bad thing. If you're too insecure to let her do that, it's ok.
You can either talk with her and grow out of that, or pretend your insecurity is the "normal state" and refuse to improve. You're doing the latter.

>>18319210
right, because there was nothing to say after that really.
>>18321894
no it doesn't. not only is it wrong; who the fuck cares about that, this isn't remotely related to the matter at hand

>>18321903
>>18321907
OPie ? u still here?

>>18321912
>it's an OP trying to use logic to justify his wife getting naked around other dudes episode

topkek

>>18319156
>sexual libertarian
thats called a cuck OP

Thread full of cucks, no wonder this world is fucked

>>18319156
Just accept that you're a cuck dude.