ITT: Ask the Opposite Gender Anything

Girls: do you actually enjoy giving head or is it something you hate doing that you do to make your partner happy?

>>18281542
I love doing it. Probably my favourite thing to do during sex.

This is for everyone;
Do you think the friend zone is a death sentence? Or is it a necessary step of a healthy relationship?

>>18281542
I love it

>>18281555
Friendship is the foundation for a healthy and successful relationship

>>18281555
I think friendzone is a meme.

If you like someone, try to get a relationship with them - flirt, make a move, ask them out.
If they reject you, then either deal with it or stop talking to them and move on with your life.
You have a choice. If you stay in friendzone is either because you're too much of a pussy to ask someone out or too much of a pussy to leave a person who doesn't meet your needs.

>>18281572
My thoughts exactly, I mean the pics are pretty funny but the reality of it is the best relationships are a friendship that caught fire. Saw another op complaining about it so figured I'd get the masses opinion. Cheers! <3

>>18281542
Seems like it's something that's just expected as an alternative to sex.

>>18281542
>Girls: do you actually enjoy giving head or is it something you hate doing that you do to make your partner happy?
I don't enjoy it, and swallowing cum makes me sick. But I'm happy to do it for my partner.

Women of /adv/: what do you think of younger guys? Do they have to hit a certain level of physical maturity before they could be considered a partner or is their a rarity among older female/younger male relationships?

>>18281621
I honestly dislike them. I once had a crush on a guy two years younger than me, but he was exceptional.
I find them less fun to be around and less physically attractive than older guys.

>>18281621
My guy is 4 months younger than me. Does that count?

Girls:
Does penis size really matter?
Obviously you would rather the guy have a big dick yeah. But is it a deal breaker?

>>18281621
>Women of /adv/: what do you think of younger guys? Do they have to hit a certain level of physical maturity before they could be considered a partner or is their a rarity among older female/younger male relationships
To be honest, it's not physical maturity. It's emotional and intellectual maturity. I've never met a younger guy that doesn't seem like a child emotionally etc.

>>18281629
Unless you have an extremely small dick, no, it doesn't matter and it isn't a dealbreaker for most.

Most girls also prefer an average-slightly over average dick over a monster cock.

>>18281636
Ok. Do girls care about the size when it's flaccid or only when its hard?

>>18281629
Nope. I've had a bf with a big penis-it hurt. I'm currently dating a guy with a 4.5" penis. He's much better lover and sex is way better. Honestly, unless it's a micropenis, you're fine.

>>18281639
I don't really plan to see your flaccid dick a lot.

>>18281643
What about bulge?

how would I go about bringing up fetishes without seeming like a weirdo?

>>18281624
Not sure how well people here take hypothetical situations but say you found a guy with a good looking body and was also mentially mature for his age yet still younger than you, would the mentality of him just being younger than you still not be a dealbreaker?

>>18281628
I'd say around 4 years is when it's truly getting into the weird younger/older territory.

>>18281631
>It's emotional and intellectual maturity.

Initially I was going to say this but after recent run ins with women that were younger than me always commenting on how I don't look my age really made me think physical looks could be a major factor.

>>18281639
The only people that care about your flacid penis is the guys in the locker room

>>18281663

You need to sound sincerely into them, but also able to distinguish reality from fiction and looking comfortable keeping them in the realm of fantasy.

So don't try to force them, don't invite your SO into them directly, just casually mention it and if they're interested / intrigued they'll ask more and ask to try it out by themselves.

if they aren't interested they'll just never ask to participate, and both of you win because they now know more about you without feeling pressured into changing the way they are to please you, while you gain some peace of mind.

>>18281664
>I'd say around 4 years is when it's truly getting into the weird younger/older territory.
Not really, well yes if you're a young adult, but when you're older then 10 years would be normal.

guys, how would you feel about getting your cock and/or ass worshipped?

>>18281664
No - unless he was significantly younger (4+ years) I wouldn't really care.
The guy I liked is two years younger than me, but he looks good and he is very mature. I never really felt any difference.
Of course, with a bigger age gap I doubt he'd be emotionally mature.

>>18281674
Obviously good but also somewhat weird, especially if its the ass.

>>18281674
>cock
love it
>ass
strange

>>18281670
>but when you're older then 10 years would be normal.

Guess the whole idea of needing to find a significant other before you die becomes a little more lenient at that time in your life.

>Of course, with a bigger age gap I doubt he'd be emotionally mature

Well many aren't. I just find it odd that like what >>18281670 said usually applies to older male/younger female relationships and nobody bats their eyes too hard at those.

2 questions

1. How weird is it that I fap only to anime/hentai images? How secret should I keep this?
2. At 24 how much of a turn off is it that I still live with my parents? Is it assumed I have my own place?

>>18281695
>How weird is it that I fap only to anime/hentai images? How secret should I keep this?
You should find a girlfriend, man.

>>18281700
Well I'm 200 rather than 300lbs now so I have any chance, but I'm also a KHV who lives with his parents, so seems unlikely.

>>18281695
>1. How weird is it that I fap only to anime/hentai images? How secret should I keep this?
Sad and weird.
>2. At 24 how much of a turn off is it that I still live with my parents? Is it assumed I have my own place?
In combination with a sad anime obsession, I'd be drier than the sahara desert.

>>18281695
It depends. Who is your waifu?

>>18281695
>1. How weird is it that I fap only to anime/hentai images? How secret should I keep this?
Better than fap to porn, actually. I like it.
>2. At 24 how much of a turn off is it that I still live with my parents? Is it assumed I have my own place?
Yeah, its shit, means you are immature.

>>18281695
I really don't want to know what my bf faps to in general. Like, whatever - it's your business.

At 24 I expect you to have a job/be in uni.
I don't really care if you are self sufficient, live with your parents or whatever - but at least be on a path that will allow you to be self sufficient soon.

>>18281704

>Sad

lol
I'm really curious about what kind of mental gymnastics you need to do to be of the opinion that drawings are sadder than poorly acted porn

>>18281679
>>18281680
even if theres no anal play involved? Its not really any different from sucking on a girls tits

>>18281707
>Better than fap to porn
What?

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>>18281711
>a guy who faps to drawings calling others sad

>>18281707
I find porn gross honestly, I never got the appeal of watching two other people fucking each other.

>>18281705
Don't really have one. Closest thing is probably ... nah it's too much randomness to pinpoint anything.

>>18281709
Well that's comforting. I was thinking maybe something would happen this summer as I've been in a huge depression for all of my uni years. Trying to get my life together for once.

>>18281713
>What?
Yes, of course.
Best masturbation is with closed eyes, but if I had to chose between porn and hentai, of course I would go for hentai. Hentai is cute, stylish depiction of sex, it is also not real, almost like an advanced version of cavemen painting sex on a wall. A lot of skillful people worked, to create it.
Now porn: real life legalised prostitution, actors are real and therefore disgusting, emotions are fake, women are degraded, weird fetishes, also huge health concerns (go check out site Your Brain on Porn). All in all, disgusting. Hentai is like art, porn it just...
I would never watch porn, but hentai - maybe.

>>18281711
>I'm really curious about what kind of mental gymnastics you need to do to be of the opinion that drawings are sadder than poorly acted porn
i think the more accurate question is what kind of mind thinks fapping to cartoons is sadder than fapping to real humans (humans who exist IRL you actually could fuck if you weren't socially inept).

>>18281723
I am disgusted by "real" porn, I can only watch girls masturbating. Is that weird?

>>18281695
>>18281711
Go outside or something. This is legitimately sad.

>>18281723
>actors are real and therefore disgusting

Top fucking kek. You put it bluntly, but I completely agree. 2D >>>>>> 3D. When it comes to porn, I've preferred drawings to real people since childhood. And this is coming from a girl in a very happy relationship with a 3D guy if that matters.

>>18281728
Not weird, just pointless.

>>18281723
>real life legalised prostitution
literally nothing wrong with prostitution

It's not just me who hates 3D porn? Good to know, I've not fapped to porn once in my life.

>>18281736
Shitton of wrong things, mostly because women do it out of money desperation. Prostitution is degrading. A prostitute cannot really be imagined as a mother, which is womens primal role in this world.

>>18281740
There are male prostitutes

>>18281740
numale pls go

>>18281740
This, I hope most women feel this way

>>18281743
>feminists want legal prostitution
>numales are now anti-feminist
uninformed retard

>>18281743
>numale ever saying woman's primary role in the world is to be a mother

U wot m8

>>18281740
prostitution is only 'degrading' to you because its an ingrained attitude, how about you get your head out of your ass and realise that any exchange of services for money is a legitimate job

>>18281724

>what kind of mind thinks fapping to cartoons is sadder than fapping to real humans

That's exactly the question I asked

>>18281730

What does that have to do with anything ?
Is it that incredible to you that someone that likes drawn porn also has an active sexual life ?
That's ridiculously narrow minded, not to mention completely unfounded.
Besides, if you think masturbating to symbols is sad because "they're not real", you're about as educated and intellectual as an ape, to be blunt.

The ability to abstract and derive meaning is one of the defining caracteristics of mankind

>>18281740
Imagine how awful it would be having a parent that was a prostitute/stripper/cammer/pornstar. What would you say in school when they ask what your parent does, or on career day. Imagine stumbling upon their work.

>>18281750
t. hooker

>>18281751
>Is it that incredible to you that someone that likes drawn porn also has an active sexual life ?
ironic considering you said you're a kissless hugless virgin

>>18281740
Most people work out of money desperation. Very few people work because it's fun and they had nothing better to do on monday morning.
Actually I heard a prostitute who works for a brothel near my house on the radio and she makes twice as much as my mother, who is a business owner.

>>18281742
Come on, its a joke.
>>18281750
To me, sex is something sacral, something which cannot be done for money, as it symbolises love and the readiness to have children with a person. Money is a completely different world, it is about resources.
No woman WANTS to be a prostitute, some just see no other option.
It is not ingrained, if it was a legitimate job, then much more women would do it.
>>18281753
Exactly. I refuse to support this market.

>>18281755

This is an anonymous image board where more than one person might reply to you

I've been sexually active since I was 16

>>18281759
>Come on, its a joke.
No it's not, there are also gigolos who are paid a lot more than male hookers, and they are same as call girls.

>>18281757
I knew a girl who became a hooker the moment she turned 21. She was excited about it since she thought it would be fun, she wasn't desperate or poor either.

People have their reasons to do it and it's ultimately their choice. It's their body and they can do what they want with it.

>>18281757
Well, first of all she sacrificed her healthy sexual love, she will never have a normal, healthy sexual life.
Second, her emotional investment (and it is a negative investment) is much higher when you have to pleasure some men you don't chose, than you scrolling Facebook at the office or your mother doing business and solving problems, which leads to satisfaction as well as money.
Don't compare, the prostitute paid a lot more.

>>18281764
Yes and we can judge them for it

>>18281762
>No it's not, there are also gigolos who are paid a lot more than male hookers, and they are same as call girls.
I don't think so, it is useless for women to pay men if they can attract them for sex much easier than men can attract women. It just makes no sense. Who is the target group of giggolos? Old women with money? Well, this is still a very small market.

>>18281768

Yeah but you have no basis for it except biggotry

>>18281772
Whatever makes you feel better anon

>>18281771

This might be the most ignorant post of this thread, still lmaoing at it irl

>>18281768
Who the fuck cares? You think like you're stuck in 14th century.

>>18281771
Ugly people, socially awkward people etc use gigolos. It does make sense if you actually think about it for more than a second.

>>18281764
>I knew a girl who became a hooker the moment she turned 21. She was excited about it since she thought it would be fun, she wasn't desperate or poor either.
Maybe this is what she told you. No woman can ever be excited about fucking random men for money. Its like in porn they say "Oh yeah I enjoy it", but you can see its bullshit. Or rationalisation.
To actually believe that women enjoy it is a delusion.
> ultimately their choice
Ultimately the choice of every human being is to be paid without doing something.
But since it is close to impossible, everyone has to set his boundaries.

>>18281773

So whatchu got besides unsourced claims, appeal to common sense and deference to the vulgar version of western morality ? Honestly curious.

>>18281773
just as judging people makes you feel better right?

>>18281765
Why she will *never* have a normal, healthy sexual life?
I've heard stories of women who were sexual workers while attending university, then got their degree and moved somewhere else, found another job, got married and had kids. It's not like the ghost of dick past comes after you.

Second, it's her choice. If she's happy doing what she's doing (and a lot of women are happy to be sex workers) it is okay.

>>18281777

So now you know more about this person's motivation than them without having ever met them

Fucking fascinating.

>>18281780
>sex workers
Feminist roastie detected.

>>18281774
Provide arguments.
>>18281776
Even ugly girls can have casual sex very easy.
> socially awkward people
Come on, being a social awkward women is nothing compared to being a social awkward man.
The demand is just not there for giggolos, even if there is, its more likely 95/5 female-male ratio.
And even if we assume this is true, for men to have sex is a much lesser emotional investment, so no point to discuss it.

>>18281777
>No woman can ever be excited about fucking random men for money.
Yes they can and yes they are. It's interesting how you think you know exactly how every woman on the planet feels and that not a single one would ever enjoy fucking a random guy for money.

>>18281777
>No woman can ever be excited about fucking random men for money.
LOL.
Women have been fucking men for money for centuries. They have been marrying men for money, having their children for money, devoting their life to them for money.
Fuck, till women had some level of independence a lot of their interactions with men were out of money and security.

>>18281780
Still, their sexual psyche will be damaged from prositution, if you deny that, there is just no point of discussing further.
>a lot of women are happy to be sex workers
How do you know they are happy?
Its nothing, just your words.

>>18281775
It certainly sounds like you do. Don't get mad

>>18281779
>>18281778
I do it for the lulz tbqh

>>18281783
>The demand is just not there for giggolos
>even though it exists and is quite common

>>18281759
no one gives a shit about your personal opinion about sex.
>No woman WANTS to be a prostitute
this is not true in the slightest
> if it was a legitimate job, then much more women would do it
what? garbage collecting is a legitimate job but its still a 98% male industry. Also lots of women dont do it because its illegal in many countries

>>18281782
Not really. Married, had sex just with my husband, and not a feminist.

Sex workers is a more inclusive terms and it includes cam girls, strippers, sugar babies or other people who sell their body and not just prostitutes.

>>18281783

>Provide arguments.

You think a market doesnt exist, when it demonstrably exists and professionals servicing that market make good money.

I think the burden of proof is on new, newfriend

>>18281777
She really was excited about it, she'd been wanting to do it for years. She enjoyed sex, knew she had a good body and figured getting some cash would be fun. It's cute how you think you're the ambassador of women but you're just a retard burying your head in the sand.

>>18281789
You're an uptight backward narcissistic bitch.

>>18281788

>Still, their sexual psyche will be damaged from prositution

"Sexual psyche" doesn't exist your tuboretard
And no, nothing gets damaged if the sexual work itself is not traumatic.

>>18281785
>>18281786
I said explicitly "random men".
Most of them are not attractive, rather the opposite, hence they go to prostitutes.
And you tell me a woman is excited to fuck some loser for money, even though he is unattractive? This just goes against every common sense.
It is one thing to have one or two sexual experiences with older rich men maybe, and totally different to actually work as a prostitute full-time.
If you actually think that prositutes might be ever excited, well you live in an illusionary world. Go to a whorehouse and see for yourself.
>>18281793
>this is not true in the slightest
>actually arguing that women want to be prositutes
Ok, I quit, I promised not to discuss with ignorant females after that one time I said "less experienced women are more attractive" and got the same shit response without any arguments, just denying the evidence.
I have no time for this shit.

>>18281788
>How do you know they are happy?
Studies, interviews to prostitutes. Escorts more than street hookers tend to be mildly happy about their life and their job.

>>18281794

So are we including nude models in this increasingly meaningless category

>>18281798
was she hot? you should've volunteered to be her first customer

>Bored.
>4:33 AM.
>Can't sleep.
I'll answer any questions until I either go back to sleep or have to get ready for work.

>>18281542
I like doing it and I don't mind the taste of cum. It varies a lot based on their diet though. If I do it too much my mouth hurts though.

>>18281555
Usually you get put there because she's just not that into you to want to date you, but doesn't dislike you enough to not want anything to do with you. Mixed bag, really. But if all you care about is sex then yeah, it probably is a death sentence.

>>18281621
Physical maturity isn't what puts me off, it's emotional maturity. Unless you looked like you were 16, it doesn't matter much. If you still acted like a fucking childeven though you are mid 20s then yeah, it bothers me. I'm 26, I would have no issue dating someone who was 20 if they acted like an adult.

>>18281629
>>18281639
Not at all. Anything bigger than 3 inches is okay. Anything longer than, say, 10 is getting too big in my opinion.
If it's flaccid I don't care at all. Even 1 inch flaccid while the balls are shrivelled up from the cold sounds ok. Kind of cute really.

>>18281663
If you ever find yourself talking about sex it's a good time. Unless it's something unspeakably forbidden I wouldn't worry too much about it. Everyone has their kinks and it takes confidence to share them.
If you want to find out which fetishes you both share I've used this site before. It's rather good. You basically both fill out which fetishes you want and then it only shows the ones you both ticked.
http://sexionnaire.com/

>>18281788

Do you also believe vaginas get stretched out by dicks and gradually become loose ? Honestly curious

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>>18281799
Holy shit I was just joking about the mad thing but I guess you really are

>>18281794
>had sex with just my husband
So that's what you tell him.

>>18281801
have you ever considered that women might actually enjoy sex, and dont just do it for the sakes of their husbands/boyfriends. Considering this, is it not a logical step that some would like to make money off of it?

>>18281801

When you get older you'll realize "common sense" is not an actual debate arguement especially when you completely miss the point of the interactions you comment on.

A girl working in porn is not excited about the idea of the sex itself, there is much more at play there, control, nurturing, social exchange.

There is plenty of reasons for a girl to enjoy the work of being intimate with males, and in fact, most women like and seek jobs with these sort of interaction minus the sex. That is literally how they're wired.

>>18281809
t. roastie

>>18281695
>1. How weird is it that I fap only to anime/hentai images? How secret should I keep this?
It's not as weird as you probably think it is, but it's still weird. Leave out the /only/ part if you do mention it. I go on /h/ and /y/ on occasion.
>2. At 24 how much of a turn off is it that I still live with my parents? Is it assumed I have my own place?
Kind of bad. Moving out will definitely increase your chances of finding a girlfriend and make 1. less weird. You should at least have a job at that age though.

>Rest of the thread is discussion about prostitution.
Okay!

If anyone else has any questions I'm not tired in the slightest and have another 2 hours before I have to get ready.

>>18281801
You are factually wrong. Most men who go to prostitutes are actually attractive and successful and can also get it for "free". You believe in the memes of religious media telling you only ugly and old men go to prostitutes.

>>18281802
Links please.

>>18281801
A lot of men who go to prostitutes are attractive and just don't want to bother dating or hooking up.

And, yes - women can be excited while having sex with losers and enjoy themselves even. Women's excitement is not "this dude is hot", women's excitement might be "look how much this man is willing to pay just to have a chance to be with me, must mean I'm extremely sexy" or whatever.

>>18281820
watch "You can't ask that" The sex worker episode.

>>18281819
>Most men who go to prostitutes are actually attractive and successful and can also get it for "free"
Then why do they go to prostitutes?
It makes no sense, why would a man pay if he can get for free?

>>18281822
also i would imagine there is some enjoyment for them with first timers / virgins as well. like when you teach a kid how to ride a bike for the first time. you feel happy with yourself

>>18281824
It is a TV show, not a fucking study.

>>18281810
Wow, you really like your little ego boosts?

>>18281817
How would you rate my current strategy of wearing caps to hide my baldingness? I have a large head so I doubt I'd look good bald.

>>18281825
Why go out to restaurant when you can just make food at home for free?

>>18281825
Because you pay for the escort to leave after you fucked.

Sex with a prostitute is strictly not committal and guaranteed. You don't have to go out, flirt, date, pay for dinner, pretend to care, cuddle her after. You go, fuck with a gorgeous woman, leave.

>>18281836
Because you can get something you can't make at home.

>>18281829
>personal accounts of sex workers dont count
I'm not even the person you replied to, its just a useful resource to understand the perspectives of sex workers

>>18281836
How is sex even enjoyable if you don't know the other person? May as well get a fleshlight and close your eyes. I guess you could roleplay but I imagine most prozzies are pretty retarded if they chose this profession. I also feel sorry for the prozzies who want to have a normal life after this because they have a 1000 dick stare for life.

>>18281825

Because its not "free", there is a time and emotional investment that goes even into a date.

Guys sometime just want to hit up a number and for pussy to be delivered, and not even attractive, rich males can necessarily have that kind of sex friends readily available.

You really sound like you don't understand shit about sex and relationship, why are you even in this discussion

Girls, do you instantly turn down short men flirting with you?

As in, you'll have a conversation with them, but you'll never reciprocate any flirting and nothing he says can get you in bed with him.

>>18281836
Atmosphere. Analogy doesn't apply.
And by the way, all this "prositutes are happy" discussion could be ended with one question:
"Do you want your daughter or your mother to be a prositute?"
No one will say "yes" in the depth of their heart, even though I will not be surprised if some write "yes Id like that", just to prove me wrong.
So there it is.

>>18281825
Let me explain it to you since you are very sheltered and don't know how the world works. Men who go to prostitutes do it because they can. It has advantages over getting it for "free".

>guaranteed sex
>no time wasted on flirting and going from girl to girl
>able to do pretty much any sex act you want
>once done no need to call her to pretend it meant something

It's a matter of convenience.

>>18281844
No.
Stop going on /fit/

>>18281844
I really like short guys

>>18281841

>How is sex even enjoyable if you don't know the other person?

its plenty enjoyable if you're not autistic and are adaptable. Sex can be treated as a game where both participants win in the end. There are plenty of ways to practice fulfilling sex that doesn't necessarily need a preexisting emotional connection.

>May as well get a fleshlight and close your eyes

What the actual fuck. Are you a virgin ?

>>18281844
Not a girl, but a short guy. I only have one piece of advice for you.

Stop going on /r9k/.

>>18281845
>"Do you want your daughter or your mother to be a prositute?"
It's their choice to make and I'm happy if they're happy with what their doing.

>>18281845

Why do you ask a question if you'll automatically refute the answer if it's not what you want

>>18281830
Of course. Don't you? ;^)

>>18281851
You seem fucked up mentally, ever consider that? You talk about sex as if it's a chore to have an orgasm. If that is true then you may as well wank off or get a fleshlight because that is the "cheapest" and most "convenient" way to do it.

Getting into this "job" as a woman sounds like the most degrading and humiliating job on the planet. I'd rather clean toilets. You are literally being paid to get intimate with strangers who just want to fuck you. If this sounds remotely normal or acceptable to you, you must be a roastie who has fucked 100+ men or nu male whose only dates are such woman because you're a pussy.

>>18281855
pretty good answer
he wont accept it though since its not the answer he wanted kek

>>18281858
Are you a guy or a girl? You are extremely buttmad. If you're a guy, you're the stereotypical bitter virgin who thinks he is entitled to his pure virgin waifu.

>>18281832
I don't know how bad it is. You'd have to post a picture. I've found that when most people are trying to hide something it's very easy to see that they are trying to hide something. Just accept that you are balding. Shit happens and you don't look terribly self conscious for trying to hide it.

>>18281844
How short are you talking? If I had the choice between someone 5'8, or dating the same person but they are 6'6 instead, I would date the 6'4 guy. It really doesn't matter unless you are closer to 4' than 6'.

>>18281855
>I am happy that my daughter is a prostitute because it is "her choice"
New mental gymnastic level is achieved.

>>18281861
Not an argument

>>18281844
How tall are you and how many girls have you fucked?

For reference I'm about 170cm and have fucked over 100 girls. Both shorter and taller. If anything shorter guys have an easier time getting girls.

>>18281863
nice how you skipped the part where shes happy with it. good mental gymnastic there yourself friend.

>>18281855
I found you

http://efukt.com/21198_Mom_Watches_Daughters_Blowjob_Audition.html

>>18281858

>You seem fucked up mentally, ever consider that?

LOL

>You talk about sex as if it's a chore to have an orgasm

Please point to a quote where I said that

>If that is true then you may as well wank off or get a fleshlight because that is the "cheapest" and most "convenient" way to do it

There is much more to sex than orgasm and a fleshlight doesnt provide that. Physical intimacy is very fun to explore, and a stranger can make it fresh and new.

>Getting into this "job" as a woman sounds like the most degrading and humiliating job on the planet. I'd rather clean toilets.

Well that's your original and hot opinion, and I'm glad you shared it with me, I'll file it in my who gives a fuck folder

> If this sounds remotely normal or acceptable to you, you must be a roastie who has fucked 100+ men or nu male whose only dates are such woman because you're a pussy

So do you have an actual arguement besides "This is wrong because I say so and if you disagree you are degenerate", or are you just gonna keep give mental diagnostics to people you don't know ?

>>18281866
Typical /r9k/ response to being btfo.

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>>18281872
Not even that anon but

>>18281869
I doubt parents of a proctologist go to work and watch their son do his job so this isn't very comparable.

>>18281872
Still not an argument.

>>18281871
>LOL
Protesting a bit much, aren't we. I can't point to a quote because this is an anonymous image board and I can't tell what you posted, and as soon as I point out a quote from you you will just say it wasn't you.

>Physical intimacy is very fun to explore
>with a stranger
Sure for the person who is buying, the other person is a fucking whore. For the whore there is nothing "fresh", "new" or explorative about it after the 10000th man has plowed her field.

>I don't give a le fuck
Just makes you sound even more like a roastie who is personally offended that I find being a whore to be gross. Or again, someone who dates roasties.

>but where's the actual arguement?
It's a thing called common sense actually, literally every adult on the planet should know what it means to be a whore and that it is bad. Only someone who is damaged in some way would be unable to compute such an obvious fact.

Some people will just deny all evidence to support their worldview... As a truth seeker, it makes me sad. But fuck all of you, live in your imaginary world, I sadly don't care about bettering the world anymore.
This planet is a piece of shit only because of humans and its only getting worse.

>>18281882
You're an idiot

>>18281845

Guarantee you if prostitutes made a lot of money and had a higher social status your opinion woudl be completely different

You're just conflating sex work with poverty and precarity in your mind, you automatically equate sex work to social misery

If these jobs were legal and protected by law the status of the girls would improve dramatically, and so would their earnings.

>>18281879
>implying

My son is a proctologist and I have watched him perform cutting edge colorectal surgery.

Aren't you proud of your daughter anon? Don't you want to make sure she is safe?

>>18281886
This.

>>18281882

>I can't point to a quote

That's what I thought bitch lmao

>Sure for the person who is buying, the other person is a fucking whore.

There is nothing fresh about writing the same general piece of fucking software for the Nth time yet I still enjoy my job as a programmer. Based on your arguement that would be absolutely impossible because I'm not doing something entirely new every time, yet here we are. Really makes you think.

>It's a thing called common sense actually, literally every adult on the planet should know what it means to be a whore and that it is bad

Common sense is not an arguement lmao
It's just what people with low intellectual depth call their opinion so they feel vindicated when other stupid motherfuckers share it.

Overall I'm unimpressed by your performance, 3/10.

>>18281886
Well, then why prostitutes never ever enjoyed high social status in any civilisation, except for geishas maybe? (But then again, this is not applicable to modern day world).

>>18281886
>if prostitutes made a lot of money

Wut. They make insane money where I live and brothels are legal. Still not respected in the slightest.

>>18281888

I'd cheer on my daughter throating a footlong desu, not even memeing

>>18281892
>geishas

When will this meme end

>>18281892

Because you're uneducated and wrong, there have been plenty of forms of high class prostitution across history.

>>18281855
I would never chose a woman like you to be the mother of my children.
For every father, a daughter-prostitute is a disgrace and humiliation.

>>18281894
Attaboy, anon

>>18281898
Links.

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>>18281886
This person will pretend they are not a far-left feminist when they are espousing shit right out of the "sex worker" handbook verbatim. Just came up with all this crap on their own!

>>18281891
First of all, you don't understand how 4chan works, I can't "quote" you. Lurk more.

Also learn how to spell ARGUMENT you fucktard, holy shit.

What's the point even arguing with a retard who can't spell and thinks that programming is comparable to being a prostitute? There is a much better study/image than this that I can't find, but just look at how this image demonstrates the effect of more partners, now imagine being a prostitute and what it'd do to you. Back to tumblr you go.

>>18281902

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawaif

>>18281902
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtesan

>>18281882
>Sure for the person who is buying, the other person is a fucking whore. For the whore there is nothing "fresh", "new" or explorative about it after the 10000th man has plowed her field.
Yes, and I'm sure stage performers and party clowns enjoy doing the same thing over and over again for people who enjoy it. This is a stupid fucking argument, you could say it about pretty much any service

Can you morons take this arguement to skype or something?

Empress Theodora of Byzantium, for one.

>>18281910
Oh my fuck you are retarded and seriously comparing being a prostitute to being a clown. Take a step back and neck yourself human garbage.

>>18281906

Happiness is a largely subjective metric, anyone unexperienced consider themselves happy because they lack the frame of reference to compare.

Educated and experienced people are less happy, that's a given. But that doesn't mean ignorance should be nurtured.

You're honestly unbelievably stupid.

>>18281882
You're an underaged virgin. Your "common sense" doesn't apply to the adult world.

>>18281913
>comparing a job in which someone performs a service to an individual or group for the purpose of entertainment and pleasure to a job in which someone performs a service to an individual or group for the purpose of entertainment and pleasure
oh shit sorry

>>18281912
Justinian was such a huge cuck

>>18281906
Oh, the /r9k/ meme graphs that bitter virgins always post to try to convince themselves their pure virgin waifu will magically appear in their basement any day now.

>>18281914
So when women who've had less sexual partners say they're happy, they just don't have the right "frame of reference to compare?" Sounds a little insulting to those women mate.

>>18281919
My bad, I forgot that literally any part of the world is okay with prostitutes and it's only "underaged virgins" who hold this opinion.

>>18281920
If clowns and prostitutes are so similar, point me to all the countries that have banned being a clown. I'll be waiting.

>>18281928
What does the illegality of prostitution in some countries have anything to do with my initial statement?

>>18281927
How about the fact I don't want women to have to degrade themselves to prostitution because they need money? I'm against legalizing drugs for the same reason. Paying for sex is morally wrong.

The argument you're making is the same one muslims make for why all women should be able to wear burqas. They like it, it's their choice, you're just a bitter virgin who doesn't understand women, etc etc.

>>18281931
You compared clowns and prostitutes, so present to me evidence that they are similar at all other than they are both technically jobs. At that point you may as well say clowns and astronauts are the same too, using your "logic."

>>18281933
I compared clowns and prostitutes only for your shitty argument that prostitution is bad because the prostitute has done it many times and the client is only doing it once. Which is common to literally any entertainment/audience job

>>18281928
Why are you on /adv/? You're not asking for or giving advice. You are just posting your bitter virgin rants. Go back to /r9k/, there you can enjoy the company of other bitter delusional virgins.

>>18281935
Yeah that's the thing moron, a clown making a balloon animal is not the same as a woman being paid to blow cock, unless you're arguing that these actions are comparable and any normal person finds the action of blowing a cock for money acceptable.

>>18281937
No?

>>18281939
why is blowing cock for money bad you fucking puritan. Just because you think that women should be pure and virginal doesnt mean shit

Prostitution is called the world's oldest profession for a reason senpai.
Some girls may be turbo horny all the time and enjoy getting fucked by strangers. Others may just do it as a means to stay fed.
They hold varying degrees of prestige, ranging from crack whores with missing teeth who'll offer you access to all their diseases for $15, to high end ones that look pretty, and could probably get another job if they tried, but the money is too much to pass up who charge thousands of dollars an hour.
Fun fact, a lot of the ones you see on street corners in Europe are basically in sexual slavery, being indebted to some pimp who gives them drugs, or straight out abducted and moved somewhere else.
All of them, I'm sure, are on the lower rungs of whatever tier of society they function in though.

If you would ask me, most fathers would be disappointed if their daughters became prostitutes/porn stars and would consider themselves failures unless they were massive cucks. Mothers, on the other hand are usually more accepting of this sort of thing.
Male prostitutes are few and far between, since if most women want sex, even if they are hideously ugly, there's always some desperate guy who would be willing to settle for free.

tl;dr: There will always be a demand for sex, and there will always be women willing to fulfil that demand in exchange for money. You can't simply make it go away because you think it's immoral or degenerate. It will always be there because that's how the free market works. Where there's a demand there will be a supply.

tl;dr2: Everyone is different, people do different things for different reasons. You can't put a blanket over an entire group of people except Muslims and say they are all like this.

>>18281945
Male prostitution is also immoral, so your argument falls apart now. At this point you may as well argue that nothing should be illegal because if you think anything is morally wrong you're a "fucking puritan" because no one wants to live in a dystopian stone age culture you desire.

>>18281951
Good post, but understand that just because it exists does not mean I have to like it or want it to be legal. In fact I think society would be better off if all prostitution came to an end. The same as a lot of other illegal but still existent activities. I'm sure there's plenty of things everyone thinks of that are like this that they wish did not happen. Just so happens that society agrees with me on this issue.

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Not even part of this argument but are you losers defending prostitutes? I'm crying. That's a new tier of whiteknight.

>>18281954
Okay, what about prostitutes who work with disabled or ill people who can no longer have sex with their partners because their partners cannot accommodate for their disability, is that immoral?
In addition, please explain to me what is wrong with legal, safe sex work that does not relate to morals

>>18281960
The first example might be worth discussion but that must be like, 0.1% of all "sex work". When it's such an insignificant number it's obviously not worth legalizing prostitution for these tiny amount of people, that's just how the law works. It's not going to satisfy everyone, it would not be fair to let those people do it and no one else. Them's the breaks love.

Without morals it's harder to argue against prostitution, I'll admit. Then it's just me personally finding it pretty disgusting and not because of wanting a "virginal pure waifu." I think this is the kind of thing that would tear down the fabric of society faster than it's already going if that matters. It's unhealthy for society. There's a reason it's illegal everywhere in the world besides just being amoral.

>>18281951
Heh, I thought that was a saying only in my country!

Trying to change the subject. For guys and girls. Kind of gross, but curious. Keep in mind this site is completely anonymous and in no way an FBI honeypot, so no one will know if you're honest.

Where do you draw the line?
>watching your partner pee/being watched
>peeing in the toilet/shower at the same time as your partner, possibly crossing the streams
>peeing on your partner/getting peed on
>you or your partner drinking each other's pee
>inducing vomiting/having your partner induce vomiting and watching
>vomiting on your partner/having your partner vomit on you
>eating your partners vomit/having your partner eat your vomit
>watching your partner poop into the toilet/being watched
>pooping on a surface that isn't the toilet and looking at it
>you or your partner poops on a surface, then your partner or you takes a poop on top of that poop
>pooping on each other
>eating each others poop
>holding hands

>>18281968
please provide evidence that prostitution is 'tearing down the fabric of society'. Also consider that legalising prostitution keeps women safer, which is pretty fucking important

>>18281958
Only bitter virgins from /r9k/ have a problem with prostitutes. Now return there and stay there.

>>18281971
I'd never do any of this things beside holding hands (duh).
I don't mind if me and my SO are in the same room while one of us is peeing, but in a completely non sexual way.

>>18281978
>Only bitter virgins from /r9k/ have a problem with prostitutes

Uh, and normal members of society? There's a reason why prostitution is outlawed in many countries.

>>18281971
>watching your partner pee/being watched
yes to watching, no to being watched (though it is kinda hot to think about)
>peeing in the toilet/shower at the same time as your partner, possibly crossing the streams
>peeing on your partner/getting peed on
yes to getting peed on
>you or your partner drinking each other's pee
im okay with getting piss in my mouth but not drinking it
>inducing vomiting/having your partner induce vomiting and watching
no
>vomiting on your partner/having your partner vomit on you
no
>eating your partners vomit/having your partner eat your vomit
no
>watching your partner poop into the toilet/being watched
no
>pooping on a surface that isn't the toilet and looking at it
no
>you or your partner poops on a surface, then your partner or you takes a poop on top of that poop
no
>pooping on each other
no
>eating each others poop
hard no
>holding hands
dude this is a bit far even for 4chan dont you think?

>>18281977
I told you in the post, this is just my personal opinion and without morality all I can point to is that governments worldwide ban this for a reason. I'm not arguing to authority, but it's obvious that if it wasn't so bad as you're suggesting it'd be legal anywhere.

If you want more specifics, I'd argue it's a slippery slope. If prostitution is legal what's next? Do we move the legal age of consent or become like Thailand? If your country did this, you'd see a flood of rich old men coming in to have sex all the time. If you think these are acceptable because of more money/trade coming in then maybe you really do have no morals.

As for "keeping prostitutes safe" this is the exact argument made by fucking slavers in the civil war. Being a slave was "safe" for blacks because they were in danger, too retarded to live in society. Prostitutes need to find another fucking job and stop making their job fucking. I have sympathy only for those forced into it or who are desperate for money, but it's the police's job to stop it happening and their failure if they don't.

>>18281985
Yet a large percentage of men (around 1 out of 5) had sex with a prostitute at least once.
Why keeping it oulawed if people do it anyway? Shouldn't we protect prostitutes and guarantee better health standards? Can't we fucking get taxes from the market?

If you consider it immoral you can just not go to a prostitute.

>>18281992

>1 out of 5

In what, Mexico? Why are you so adamant on defending prostitutes? Is the only source of sex for you prosties?

>>18281992
So if something
>makes money
>is done by enough people
That's enough for it to be legalized for you?

Do I even need to delve into why this is a terrible idea.

>>18281993
In the US. In Mexico is probably even higher. In Thailand is over 70%

I also have sex at least 4 times a week, with my SO, and find the thought of casual sex revolting.
I also think that sex with the same sex is disgusting, yet I don't mind if other people marry a same sex partner and fuck them every day for the rest of their life.

>>18281988
governments ban lots of things that arent actually harmful, such as homosexuality.
prostitution as it is (person pays to recieve sexual services from another person) is not harmful. Pedophilia has a proven detriment on the victim (same with rape) and as such should not be made legal. Bestiality also has a detriment on the animal (particularly when the animal is the one being penetrated), and as such is counted as animal abuse and should not be legal. This slippery slope really has quite defined edges if you think about it.
For your comparisons to slavers, are you denying that legislation will make work conditions safer for prostitutes? If a prostitute is violently raped or beaten on the job, she can not call the police because she was technically performing an illegal act herself, if she is exploited by a brothel owner she also cannot seek help. I will say again, just because YOU do not approve of the job someone is doing does not mean they do not deserve to be safe doing it

>>18281992
1 out of 5 seems low. Got a source? I'd imagine it to be much higher.

>>18281993
Why are you bitter virgins so butthurt about prostitution?

At what point should I reveal that she is my first gf and that was my first date?

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>>18281993
You don't need to partake of something to defend its right to exist. I don't drink alcohol or smoke weed, yet I defend peoples right to consume both. In fact many of the same arguments defending weed (legalize it, tax it, regulate it to remove the criminal element) are just as applicable to prostitution if not more so.

>>18281978
>Only bitter virgins from /r9k/ have a problem with prostitutes.
What
I'd argue the opposite if anything, there seems to generally be a more positive perspective towards sex work over there even if it's rooted in some shitty logic.

>>18282001
The difference is that the government has no reason to ban homosexuality because there's no transaction involved. The only reason they care about prostitution is because money is involved. If you just go fuck someone for no reason that is not a crime. This is why it's not comparable to things like bestiality or pedophilia although those certainly could be less policed if prostitution was made legal and the laws were loosened up, who knows because no country has been dumb enough to legalize prostitution.

Frankly I reject the argument that this makes it safer for prostitutes on the same grounds as I think it was wrong that slaves were safer under slavery. Yes technically after slavery ended, slaves lived at times in worst conditions and took a long time for their lives to improve, but eventually they did and integrated into society. Prostitutes it's a lot less of a thing as long as they aren't technically sex slaves, just find another fucking job that doesn't treat you so badly ffs.

I also find it pretty disturbing on some levels how you're using abuse of and slavery of sex slaves in your argument. These people who do these crimes, especially the handlers, are scum and we shouldn't write our laws to try and appease them, we should come down on them like a ton of bricks and make them stop.

>>18281998
No. I think that if two adults decide to have sex, and they don't harm anyone doing so, they should be able to do it without fearing legal consequences. I think that if there's a money transaction, then the transaction should be taxed.
And I think that the state should protect its citizens as much as possible - helping women get out of sexual slavery or pimping, making women get tested regularly so everyone's health is safer, etc.

>>18282002
http://prostitution.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004119

>>18282011
It's nothing to be ashamed of. Tell her whenever it seems suitable.

>>18282020
That's not how the law works Anon. There's many things that once you get a transaction involved become illegal. I could note 100s of examples but an obvious one is, I don't know, gambling. I can make a bet with a friend but in most States I would be breaking the law if I started gambling the same was as a reservation casino. So no, it's not just "two consenting adults" once you bring the complications of money into it, completely different then.

And yes I do not think it is morally acceptable to do something like this just so you can bring in more tax money. There's plenty of shady shit you could do as well for more money, still not buying it. As for helping the women out that is again the police's job and arguing to legalize prostitution outside of 4chan is probably only hurting the cause as you're making it seem like less of a crime to be a ho-slapping, evil pimp or God forbid a fucking sex slave owner. If that shit got legalized you'd only make their money laundering that much easier, the police's job of shutting them down gets no easier.

Quick question too, if what you say is true, why has literally no country in the world legalized prostitution.

>>18282014
>who knows because no country has been dumb enough to legalize prostitution.
You're joking, right? Prostitution is legal in many countries, the red light district of the Netherlands is probably the most famous example.

>>18282025
>Quick question too, if what you say is true, why has literally no country in the world legalized prostitution.
Why do you keep saying this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_by_country#Europe

>200 replies
>25 posters
>you neckbears are still discussing the morality of prostitution
WHY?

>>18282029
He still believes that his pure virgin waifu is out there and they will live happily ever after and take each others' virginities.

>>18282032
It's one neckbeard who is getting btfo but he is too dumb to realize it.

>>18282014
>no country has been dumb enough to legalize prostitution
well this is just false, new zealand, a country with one of the highest living standards in the world has legal prostitution, hell prostitutes working under brothels get social benefits there. Its also legal (under certain circumstances) in Australia, completely legal in Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, and the Netherlands.
I honestly do not know what your point is with slavery, legislation in that situation was to justify systemic abuse, legislation in regards to prostitution will introduce the ability for prostitutes to have legal protections against abuse.
I did not mention sex slavery anywhere in my post, sex workers can be abused on the job same as anyone can, the difference is that anyone in any other job can get their abusers prosecuted

stop replying to him then, trust me, as a professional shitpost the (You)s he's getting is sustaining him

>>18282035
I feel like that's an entirely different beast. The kind of woman who would willingly engage in sex work wouldn't be holding onto her virginity very long regardless of if its legal or not.

>>18282032
It's more interesting than questions about your dick size mostly.

>>18282020

>consent

Yeaaaahh, tell that to filipino and russian prostitutes imported from abroad, dipshit. With the sex trade, you can never know.

>>18282042
If we stop replying then we'll never reach critical (you) though.

>>18282039
I guess I was wrong about the legalization part, I said it earlier in the thread and no one pointed it out.

My point is that slavers made the same argument that prostitutes would be safer and had as much a point as you have with this one, only slaves literally had no choice but to be slaves and prostitutes can simply find another job. Prozzies who aren't forced into it can report their bosses, it's their fault if they're committing a crime. Maybe they shouldn't have become prostitutes in the first place? js

also yet again once you legalize it you're going to make a lot of wealthy sex slavers and pimps immediately, as I'm sure is a thing in these countries that legalized it and certainly don't approve.

>>18282025
I personally think it should be legal. I understand it is illegal, but if an adult wants to sell sex and an adult wants to buy it, I think it is perfectly ethic and it should be legal.
I don't think that's the case just to bring more tax money, but simply because there is absolutely no reason to keep it illegal beside personal moral's hang ups.

I think prostitution shouldn't be a crime, while exploiting prostitution (sex slavery, pimping) should be.

>why has literally no country in the world legalized prostitution.
A lot of countries have legalised and regulated prostitution: Germany, the Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland for example. It is legal to be a prostitute and have sex for money, but the market is unregulated in most European countries.
NZ has legal prostitution too, most south american countries do as well.

>>18282044
Human trafficking and sexual slavery should be a crime.
If a prostitute is scared of going to the police and report her pimp because she might be arrested too, how can we stop it? If prostitutes are more protected, we can definitely lower things like sexual slavery.

>>18282049
Then we'll have to agree to disagree because I do not think prostitution is ethical, simple as that. Apparently a lot of the world is fine with it though so what do I know. Most of the world it is illegal.

imo it's going to happen regardless of its legality or not. most western countries have legalized it already.
desu the best thing to do is legalize and legitimize is so sex workers can feel safe and don't have to worry about being murdered or jewed. it also lets you get the sweet income tax to fund more missiles to bomb syria with

>>18282052
Well, why do you think it is not ethical?

>>18282046
Can we all just agree that the bitter neckbeard virgin is an idiot?

>>18282057
Because it's degrading and victimizes the people who do it. Society's laws shouldn't be based around the lowest common denominator of "what can anyone do that is possible to make money," otherwise we'd still have cock fighting and other shit be legal. And before you say prostitutes are in no physical danger, even when regulated this is a pretty risky job considering all the STDs and the kinds of people you'd attract. It's just as shady as drug dealers.

It doesn't help them to legalize it for the most part, there'll always be a seedy underbelly that the police can't reach anyway. It's not a legit answer for either prostitution or drugs.

>>18282047
Except, in the countries that I named, making shit legal has actually made it safer for prostitutes to work. Amazing.
>prostitutes can simply find another job
do you understand how much of a non-argument this is? You cant have someone point to issues and how they can (and have been) be avoided, and just say 'uh yeah just dont do that thing'
You act like people just make sex slavery legal when sex work is legalised. There is nuance in the law y'know, in most countries pimping is illegal or heavily regulated

>>18282069
Honestly I'm inclined to assume it's bait if just because of how much he kept spamming about how "no country in the world has legalized prostitution". I can forgive someone sheltered for assuming so with the western world in general, but I find it hard to believe they'd apply that same rule to some sand country.

>>18282070
>Because it's degrading and victimizes the people who do it.
It is degrading because people like you don't respect sex workers and prostitute clients. You marginalise them and you degrade them, you treat them with no respect.
Prostitutes would be in less physical danger if brothels and such things were legal. They'd be in less physical danger if we obligated them to get tested routinely.

The best way to keep a thing clean and safe is to make it legal and for everyone to see. If we keep it illegal and we make them be a shady, "seedy underbelly" that no one has control on we put prostitutes and clients in danger.

Legalisation IS the answer because if we regulate things we keep them safe.

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>>18282080
I'm not even that guy but your whiteknighting is reaching top kek levels

>>18282086
Because I have a different opinion? Lol.

>>18282086
Back to /r9k/ with you, bitter neckbeard virgin.

>>18282086
i didnt realise advocating for workers rights made you a white knight

Prostitutes don't deserve to be safe tbqh. Who fucking cares if they're at risk? Paid whores lol.

>>18281740
Actually a lot of strippers and prostitutes are mothers. It's easy to say that they should just "get a real job" - good luck trying to land a solid legitimate job that doesn't require you to be away so much throughout the day that you lose most of your money to childcare right away.

With prostitution you can make enough bucks from working the nights to feed your kid(s). Plus many sex workers have addiction issues they need to take care of.

For what it's worth, I'm Dutch and we have a lot of issues with prostitution despite it being legal. It's easier said than done to make sure that the women renting aren't pressured in any way. It's estimated that most of the women working there were at least pressured into sex work, if not victims of human trafficking.
Yes it's a job. But it literally hits closer home than others jobs. People aren't machines, it does something to you to be touched and literally entered by someone who is drunk, callous, and sometimes sees you as a fleshlight.

At the same time, I'm not against the concept of prostitution. But whereas I don't doubt that nymhos why just enjoy it exist (though I think more in position where they can still be picky about men than in open to all business places), I'm pretty convinced they're a minority. Making it seem like the only one issue with prostitution is the stigma (or it being illegal) is conveniently "solving" the problem by ignoring reality.

But it being illegal is no option either, you put prostitutes in an insanely dangerous position that way. Not only can they be extorted more efficiently, but they are at risk of being raped by police officers etc without being able to do anything about it - because then they would have to admit to whoring themselves out and receive punishment. This abuse runs rampant in many countries where prostitution is illegal.

Girls

What do you look for in a tinder profile ? What immediately turns you off?

I'm looking to start dating, not random hookups, and would just like some pointers on what kind of pictures to include and what kind of information I should put out there.

I'm probably about a 7/10 physically if that matters. My face is above average and handsome with the right haircut. And my body is good since I started lifting about 2 years ago, but I'm just not the shirtless selfie type.

Tl;dr how do I attract the attention of girls on tinder that are looking for more serious relationships?

>>18282271
I don't tinder or anything similar so take that as a disclaimer. Having said that my tips would be;

>include several pictures so she has a realistic impression of you, first picture a candid one looking in the camera (ideally with just a hint of a smile), add at least one picture of you with friends or family and at least one of you being cute with an animal, there is nothing I like to see more than men doting on animals/kids, if you can include a picture with a slim fitting shirt that implies you have a fit body without going full douche with a shirtless picture
>don't make an elaborate bio, keep it short and sweet with a self-deprecating/light-hearted joke and stating what you are looking for in the most appealing way (eg "just looking for someone to have fun with" as opposed to "looking for something casual")
>don't expect girls to be sold on you just because they swiped right - especially cute girls who are in demand are not that impressed with a guy liking them, and it's in the conversation that you'll have to sell them on being attractive as a (sexual) partner
>no puns, no dick pics, not getting sexual right away - make her want you, make her want you to categorize her as a hot woman, don't be a sell out throwing your interest at her, that will only take away the tension
>invest in learning how to flirt

Literally only just noticing now that you asked for serious relationships. Most stands but
>practice general conversational skills
>ask her out relatively early, after at most three conversations, to a coffee date
>if you can avoid it at all, don't fuck her too soon

Do girls fart? :3

>>18282337
All the time.

Im currently dating a girl that is unattractive. She has an incredible body(and nice huge breasts) but her face is not really nice and she doesnt use make up.
Its no real problem for me, i still really like fucking her(and her personality is nice too) but Im kinda embarassed about being seen with her. The Main reason Im with her, is cause I dont have any alternatives.
I'm a 8\10(lookwise) but Im not that good with girls, and dont get to know a lot of girls cause there arent any girls in my major(CS), work(IT) or hobby(MMA). Also cause of my past as former nerd my friends are like 90% nerds\virgins and male.
The thing is, friday she will be at a Party, where I will be too. There will be alot of my old (male) classmates and Im already really emberassed. I dont want them to see me with her and pity me.
What do? Should I suck it up or find some excuse to not be there?
Am I being too shallow?

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>>18282337
It varies between inviduals of BOTH sexes. I'd say from 8 times a day to 30 times a day. If it goes past 25 I'd figure out what the hell is wrong with me.

>>18282363
Yeah you're too shallow. You would not be afraid to hangout with her, if you cared for her. I don't pity you. I pity the girl. So I assume you are with her only because you don't want to be single.

> I dont want them to see me with her and pity me.
>as former nerd my friends are like 90% nerds\virgins

do you realize how stupid that sounds?

>>18282363
You are being really immature. This is a girl you describe as pretty cool and pretty appealing in her own right, even if she's not a princess. Do you really think in the grand scheme of things you would stand behind the decision to worry about what others think of you for being attracted to her?

Also spend a moment realizing how you would feel if a girl wanted to ride your dick, but was so personally embarrassed by you that she didn't want to be associated with you by anyone. That's pretty damn coarse.

You avoiding this one party doesn't solve the problem of being humiliated by who you are dating.

>>18282303
Thanks, I appreciate your input

>>18281801
I'm sorry you have so many idiots arguing with you. I agree with what you say. This place is just full of men who have no idea what they're talking about. Men want to pretend prostitutes enjoy what they're doing so they don't feel guilty about it. Instead of talking out of your asses you idiots should actually read statements written by sex workers

>>18282303
>>if you can avoid it at all, don't fuck her too soon
Ok guys and girls, I wanna ditch the Tinder topic here.

What if after the first or second date the girl is down to fuck and you are looking for a long time relationship? Do you not have sex? Do you say that to them? Would that just make them feel like an easy slut, if you say "no, no. i don't wanna have sex so soon" or the like? Disclaimer that I had that at 3rd date and personally it was too soon, but I did it anyway desuu

>>18282372
Nah they are not nerds. Im not really friends with these classmates, but I see them from time to time.
I only mentioned my friends, cause I cant really find new girls through them.
You are probably right. I will just suck it up.

Yeah thats kinda the reason why Im with her. But Im in such a dry spell, cause I almost never get to know any new girls, cause of my current social Situation. I tried really hard, went to a cooking course, went to clubs, but nothing really worked.
The loneliness was kinda killing me, so I started dating her....
I only know her since 2 weeks, maybe I should break it off, before I hurt her feelings...

>>18282402
I think first of all it's important to establish whether she's trying to move towards it being a simple hook up or not. Eg if she hasn't shown a lot of interest all night, been on her phone a lot, but suddenly wants to fuck - yeah, she was probably just making sure that you were who you were saying you are and didn't have the crazy eyes in real life, and she wants to get laid.
If this is the case either fuck her and don't look back, or tell her that's not what you're looking for and thanks for the date.

If you do feel like you are building a connection and you think it's too soon to have sex, tell her in the most alluring way. "I really like you a lot, I don't want to rush anything, I want us to take our time". She won't feel like a slut as long as you make it clear that you, too, want to fuck her and are pleased that she wants to fuck you. You just want to have sex on different terms and see if she's on board with that.
You can't look into her head. For all you know -she- feels like you won't stay around if she doesn't put out and is long happy to meet a guy with patience. All you can do is be frank about your preferences and see how she responds.

>>18282390
You're welcome, good luck!

>>18282410
2 weeks, huh. How would you feel if she broke up with you? Im not stranger to your case either. How would that make you feel? I've found that to be the best way to know if you really want to be with a girl. Personally I broke up after "failing" the test. I realized I would sigh with relief almost, if she broke up with me. The shallow feeling you feel are normal. You gotta figure out what you want.

>>18282418
Thanks for the reply to the sex on first nights thing. As a guy it's really hard to deny sex, if she's right there with you. And I personally feel like a bummer if I deny it. I have the thought in my head that there needs to be some "impulsive" behavior, you know. Maybe I should avoid dating so horny women. For me I'd wait until 3 months that we have sex, but it feels the older you get the more "casual" it becomes. I don't like that. There needs to be a connection or I feel like a slut, as a guy. Maybe I should keep to my goal and tell that to the women, but make out clothes on until that... Thanks.

>>18281674
>>18281680
This.
>>18281712
It IS different. Asses don't have delicious nipples.

>>18281737
3D > 2D

>>18281971
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!

>>18282421
Honestly? its mixed. She cooks nice food and her body is incredible, and her face is not really a problem for me personally.
Shes super cool, not insecure at all, but also has some majore character flaws(shes super chaotic, always is late etc.)
I think Ill go to the Party, cause anything else wouldnt be ok. I have to think about what happens after that, maybe ill break it off. Im not really sure.
I dont want to be with her only cause I dont want to be lonely...

Girls. How off putting is it for a guy to like Taylor Swift?
How many of her songs am I allowed to know all the words to before it becomes weird?

>>18282433
asses are soft and beautiful though, theyre also attached to thighs which are the best part of the body

Girls:

At what point does your playful teasing turn into legitimate insults?

A girl I like used to be really playful with me, but now I can't tell if she's still teasing me or if she's trying to make me feel bad about myself.

Either way, I've basically lost interest in her because of that.

I don't know if it was my doing (hesitant to ask her out, she pointed that out to me "i'm not always going to take initiative for you, anon" and since then she's been a real jerk) or what. She's also been pretty mean to me since she found out I got a new job (we're coworkers)

>>18282441
>Girls. How off putting is it for a guy to like Taylor Swift?
A bit. Guys listening to female pop singers always make me feel weird.
But honestly if you're not super fangirly about it and you can pull it off, it's fine.

>>18282440
Sounds good, anon. Going to the party is the best thing. You'll see her in different light when hanging around different people. Every couple should try this once in a while. I'm really happy for you and I hope you will figure out if you wanna be with her in the future. 2 weeks is nothing yet, but you'll see in 1 to 1.5 years at least...

>>18282446
Well I like a lot of music, and know the words to a shitload of songs and have a good memory for that sort of stuff, but I just like Taylor Swift a lot and would rate her quite high, like top 3 if I had to make a list of all time favorite musicians.

>>18282445
Is she Australian? You might be misinterpreting banter as legitimate insults.

>>18282445
You should have told her you like her. What the hell are you waiting for? And we don't know what she thinks. Avoid asking these type of questions, because we don't know. It's even in the FAQ. But yeah, why wait so long? You'll make a girl lose interest, if she even was interested in the first place...

Is this repairable? Bail out? Move onto another one?

Dating a girl for a while. We've expressed feelings for each other and whatnot. I think we've said "I love you" too early on, shes said ILY and how grateful she is that we met/came into our lives and I've said it as well but now she wants to slow it down and pace ourselves. Still wants to date but she wants some time "to figure herself out to see what she wants." I'm fine with that.

Only issue is that this weekend I came across some messages accidentally with another guy for some plans this week (after she said she wanted to hang with me this week after finals), and then another one from a friend asking if she ended it with me yet which hurt. We were on her laptop watching Netflix and the imessages popped up on her Mac. She definitely knew I saw the messages.

Tried bringing it up but she kinda brushed it over. I was kinda upset and she was all "it hurts me to see you sad like this" etc,. Been talking a little bit since here and there but not sure how to proceed.

She's mingling with other guys and I've come to accept that. She wants commitment but in time but still wants to date. We're both in our early 20s so none of us have our shit figured out honestly.

Keep hanging with her? Is this transitioning into a FWB situation or should I just bail? I'm okay with that but feelings have alresdy been invested by both of us and don't want anyone to get hurt.

>>18282445
My boyfriend and I insult each other all day. It's still playful tho.
I care about him and love him madly, but never miss a chance to make fun of him.

It's just a matter of personality and personal sensitivity. If you like her, you should try to ask her out or turn the friendly banter into flirting.

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>>18282441
>>18282453
PEOPLE, stop trying to be the "perfect person", who doesn't have their "guilty pleasures". Maybe your girl will tease you about knowing Taylor Swift songs. So what? It's the spice of a relationship. All those silly embarrassing facts about you. Bee yourself!

Guys, when you're getting a blowjob, how would you feel about the girl kissing or gently sucking your inner thighs before actually sucking your dick.
Also how would you feel about a girl sucking your nipples?

>>18282457
Bail, you're going to be her second choice if whatever she has planned doesn't work out

>>18282463
Differs from guy to guy, just ask if he would be interested

>>18282457
Bail. No question about it. Sorry for the short answer, but that's the only reasonable thing to do in my opinion.

>>18282445
There really is no way to define that. There are many reasons for people to tease, even in a slightly mean fashion. She can be really awkward, with acting tough and slightly bitchy being her front because she doesn't know how to carry herself otherwise. Or she's a dominant/demanding sub and saying these things that are mildly provocative turn her on and get her riled up. Maybe she is just trying to flirt with you and doesn't realize that she crosses over into unpleasant territory.

But in general, I think it should always be obvious that she doesn't fully mean what she says. Be it by talking shit about herself as well, by making sure you know with a smile/wink/touch that at the end of the day she likes you, or already having a mutually established sarcastic/snarky dynamic that you both engage in equally.

When it comes down to it, her intentions aren't the end all. If you dislike how she treats you, it doesn't matter shit what she tried to do. She failed. She made you feel shitty. Game over.

>>18282468
I dont have a boyfriend, im just, scoping out my chances i guess

>>18282463
I would feel great about both.

Too many people focus on just the genitals. I think it's really a turn on when a girl takes her time getting to actually touching my cock. And I think it's true for girls to that they enjoy when a guy kisses all over her stomach, thighs and hips before starting to eat her out.

It could lead to premature ejaculation though if he's not used to being more erotic and slow. The build up and anticipation could have him on the edge and then you putting your mouth on his cock might push him over that edge.

>>18282463
Not a guy but since the thread is pretty quiet, I've heard guys say online that their nipples offer no sensation but my lover adored to have them licked, it visibly made him melt.

When you are in the position, just try to figure out what HE likes. These are personal things and there is no one answer fits all. There are absolutely men who would love everything you mention.

>>18282463

Thighs I love, nipples eeeh, not that sensitive in that area

>>18282444
Male asses? Nope, they aren't.
I know because I'm male and have an ass.

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>>18282476
Discuss with your future boyfriend about these things. He must have some things he likes too, so he doesnt complain about yours. Personally I dont like to be bitten. I'm a guy. But some girls want to do that. I will let them do that, if otherwise things are good. No harm in that. You gotta go the extra mile for people you care about. That's why sex should be between a couple of at least a few months. Stop the casual sex garbage!!

>>18282491
male asses are my favourite things in the world dude

If a girl that (at least imo) is good looking, picks photos of her that are kind of unflattering as her facebook profile photos does it mean something? does it mean she has very high self esteem? that she feels she's always pretty? or that she's afraid of looking pretty?

>>18282499
she probably just doesnt take a good photo, or she doesnt have the same aesthetic taste as you

>>18282491

Take better care of it then, my ass is quite the attraction

>>18282499
She might be obnoxious to be with or a funny gal to have around. Sounds like youre stalking a girl, so how should you know, am I right...

>>18282470
>But in general, I think it should always be obvious that she doesn't fully mean what she says. Be it by talking shit about herself as well, by making sure you know with a smile/wink/touch that at the end of the day she likes you, or already having a mutually established sarcastic/snarky dynamic that you both engage in equally.
We kind of have that dynamic, and she'll still do nice things on occasion. But, her teasing has been escalating recently (especially since I told her I got a new job).

I know it's bad to date coworkers, which is part of the reason I never asked her out. I was going to wait until getting a new job, but now I kind of don't see the point. I still like her, but I don't know if I want to date her anymore.

This is probably the most confused I've ever been haha...

>When it comes down to it, her intentions aren't the end all. If you dislike how she treats you, it doesn't matter shit what she tried to do. She failed. She made you feel shitty. Game over.
Yeah, she's made me feel really bad before. It wasn't her directly being mean to me, either. I was in a really bad place a few weeks ago, thought I could turn to her for someone to talk to. She wouldn't even give me the time of day besides saying "stop being such a grump"

So I think I'm a cut above the average autist and want to ask out a girl from my class. She seems nice so what's the safest option?

>>18282502
I see. It's always photos taken of her by someone else, never a selfie. Idk why I'm giving this so much thought.

>>18282509
Literally just ask if she wants to hang out or go to a movie or something. It's not rocket science

>>18282506
Yeah I'm definitely stalking her, I can't control myself. She seems super shy irl but she laughs at any slightly humorous comment I make. I've only talked to her twice.

>>18282514
I know, if it were just rocker science I wouldn't need to ask.

>>18282514
Not that anon but how is it not rocket science? I mean you can't just go and ask someone out right? Don't you need some sort of indicator first, that shows at least that the person doesn't hate being around you? Why would a random person hang out with another random person alone? (I know we can't assume stuff since there's no details in the first post though)

>>18282507
It seems to me like a lot of discouraging signs for something that is not even a dating dynamic just yet. Most people are on their very best behavior still getting to know someone who catches their interest. On top of you being coworkers, I would try to aim your attention elsewhere if I were you.

>>18282509
Safest option is to go talk to her before someone else does. She might be taken or not interested, so you wanna figure that out as well...

>>18282529
She's single and says she likes me but idk.

>>18282446
>tfw I only listen to female singers
HIT ME, BABY, ONE MORE TIME!

>>18282453
I like her music, her casual dresses and how she looks like a princess.

>>18282366
I am a guy and I don't think I fart that much. Are girls pigs like that?

>>18282463
Both are very hot. My nipples are sensitive.

>>18282496
What's good about it?

>>18282540
>I am a guy and I don't think I fart that much. Are girls pigs like that?
Try to pay close attention for once. Yeah people fart apparently 10-20 times a day (http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/how-much-should-a-healthy-person-fart-1.2819459) but you usually barely even register it. Especially if you're by yourself and it's just a bit of gas escaping, not a full on smelly fart.
I used to think I farted maybe thrice a day until I started actually counting.

>>18282540
>What's good about it?
theres nothing not good about them

>>18282546
But we poop from there.

>>18282551
not all the time, theyre aesthetically pleasing and soft

>>18282555
But girls' asses are so much better.

>>18282571
boy asses are usually thicker

>>18282575
Not sure what men where you live look like but I'm used to men having much less prominent or even flat looking asses compared to women.

>>18282584
all the guys i know have really fat asses and thick thighs so

>>18282540
>I am a guy and I don't think I fart that much. Are girls pigs like that?
You think the gas in your belly just vanishes? You fart at least 8 times a day. I wish I farted that little. Sometimes I get real gassy and get to like once in 30 minutes for a while.

>>18282527
It hasn't always been like that, but I think because I never really tried taking things further that she thinks the only way I'm able to flirt is via teasing/insults.

I just can't tell how she feels because sometimes they're so cold and blunt...

And yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. I don't meet many people, so I'm sure there are others out there :)

I hope...

The only thing that depresses me is that when we first started talking/hanging out it was like we'd known eachother for years...

>>18282457
Gtfo bitch's a whore and you're her backup plan

>>18282463
First sounds good. Had my nipple licked and I almost laughed because I'm hairy as fuck, I think the girl might have regretted it lol

Why are women so averse to getting peed on? What's so bad about it?

>>18282662
The ick factor that it's bodily waste, can smell etc combined with it being seen as degrading to get pissed on.

It's like asking, why are men so averse to licking their semen? It just holds no appeal for them (sadly).

>>18282673
Do women actually get turned on by men eating their own cum?

>>18282678
Some do, some don't.
I love the idea of a man eating me out after he cum in me, or making out with me after he cum in my mouth.

>>18282678
Not all of them by a long shot. I think most women would just like men to be slightly more comfortable with it because it's awkward when a man is hesitant to kiss you after coming in your mouth.

But personally, fuck yes. I mean not aiming and shooting a load into his own mouth, that's too comical, but I would love to be with a man who will snowball with me or take a lick off my boobs/ass after blowing over them.

Girls: What is the most common way to please a woman?

My LDR gf of almost 3 years is coming over in about 2 days and we often talk about how badly we want to fuck. Thing is, she told she usually has trouble cumming on her own(also a virgin). I don't want to let her down but I'm inexperienced. What do?

>>18282692
Sadly, whether or not you will give her an orgasm depends MUCH more on how well she knows herself, how much she can relax etc, than on whether or not you have the magical technique.

I can tell you that the #1 mistake men make is gloss over foreplay. A huge part of sexual experience is in your mindset and the build up, so make sure she gets ample of that so she is optimally aroused before penetration. The more blood in her groin, the better it'll feel for her.

>22 years old
>kissless virgin
ayy lmao
is this a red flag for me?
male btw

>>18282692
There are really no rules in sex. Every person is a separate case. Take all this with a grain of salt.

If this are your first experiences, my best advice is to relax and don't rush things.
Lay in bed and kiss. Cuddle her, feel her up, enjoy her body. Make her feel special and valued. Undress her slowly, play with her breasts, kiss her neck.
Fingering and oral sex usually are great way to start. Focus on the clit. Don't give up after a minute or two. Listen to her and focus on the way she responds.
If this is her first time, missionary is the best. Take it slow, kiss and cuddle her while you do it.

Make sure you do it safely - is she on birth control? Did you buy condoms?

She might not come, and in my experience she probably won't, but she will enjoy herself if you care about her and show it.

>>18282709
Just don't tell anyone

>>18282715
but when we have sex
is it not obvious?

Girls: Girlfriend of 1.5 years went a bit mad and got suspicious of me when I went to the cinema with a bro and then said I can't like pictures of my female friends on facebook. I put us on a break for a week or 2 because I'm I honestly did nothing wrong but she still is messaging me every day trying to make the break smaller cos now she's worried about what will happen and it's pushing me further away. What can I say to make her back off without stressing her out more?

>>18282719
Study up on it and be confident my man

>>18282723
Feed her some bullshit like "you're the only girl for me" if you want to stay with her, otherwise dump it cause she crazy

>>18282709
If I just wanted to fuck you, great, would love the opportunity to take a virginity.

When it comes to sex, it'll make me pay more attention to other red flags but it's ultimately all about stuff tied in with your inexperience but not 1:1 related to it. Eg I would be worried you considered me your practice girlfriend, or would be gone as soon as I built up your confidence, have insane unrealistic expectations of relationships - but ultimately I am getting to know a person and if you seem to be sincerely into me that's great.

>>18282723
/adv/'s thoughts on breaks are you should just break up and that people go on breaks just to fuck other people, not to actually fix things.

Your goal is to make her more secure so she bothers you less. right? Does it make sense to you that a semi-break up does the exact opposite?

>>18282756
I can see why yeah. I think my logic was that I need some space to avoid this all irritating me into wanting to see other people. I can see why it would lead her to think otherwise now you put it like that

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>New GF
>I wanna just kiss and chat with her all the time
>know that i'm already moving towards needy/smothering
>already getting thoughts about what could happen if she cheats on me
Welp this wasn't as fun as i remember

I'm just a very passionate guy

>>18281555
depends. I still think it is a meme/shitty excuse.

You either get to "friendzone" because you haven't tried anything or because you tried too much, but s/he doesn't feel the same.


>>18281971
yes
yes
yes
no, maybe
no to all
>taking the bait
(last one) yes


welp I hoped for some interesting questions and all I have seen is prostitutes' banter.

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Girls,
Why does a girl at work stares dead ahead and doesn't even turn her head to look at me when i talk to her? Just being more autistic, i was infront of her but she didn't turn to even look at me, her eyebrows were middle raised and her lips where pushed together, kinda pursed.

Yesterday we were having a decent conversation, she seemed really relaxed. Her bf walked past and i noticed she looked down all nervous and shit. Today she took a seat right by me, i walked up to her to tell her a joke and she just stared straight ahead and just said "what" and didn't say anything, just raised her eyebrows as if saying to go on with the joke. Told her 3 jokes she gave me nothing. I asked her if i was bugging her and she said "yes" and i apologized and walked away.

Like wtf.

>>18282817
it sounds like youre autistic and creeping her out but she doesnt want to tell you to fuck off and you can't take a hint

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I assume that this girl i've been mildly flirting with at work likes me if she tries to subtly keep in contact?
Like today i noticed that we were standing in a meeting and out arms were touching, i move away, then like 30 secs later it's back there

Is fencing a fedora tier sport?

new thread?