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How can I sleep with my boss?

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I'm 21 and he's probably very late 40's to mid 50's, but looks very good for his age. In general I'm attracted to older guys (not for money).

His wife always works with us in the same building but for a different company, it's kind of hard to explain, but she's always around. Not to sound bitchy, but age has caught up with her and she's always bitter and angry at everyone, and treats her employees like trash.

I have no moral problem with being ~the other woman~

How can I get him?

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>>18278958
>>18278958
just fucking try jesus fucking christ. Send an email or whatever. You are a young girl, this should be easy
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>>18278960
Yeah but there's a chance he rejects me and I lose my job. Gotta keep it subtle but idk how
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>>18278961
there's a chance he rejects you and that's what you're scared of. Why would you lose your job?
Have you tried flirting with him?
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>>18278958
>has a wife

Some women really are whores without any intrinsic value. Besides being a piece of shit I would recommend you don't adopt being a homewrecker to your list of hobbies. Although you don't care about destroying another woman's life, think about him. His wife will find out and ruining his marriage isn't worth some fling that you want to entertain yourself.
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>>18278958
Lol what is your motive? Do you have some personality disorder?
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>>18278964
but who cares? sex is amoral, nature is amoral. This is just the female nature. You can accept it or get butthurt claiming "only some women are like that"
>>18278967
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>>18278968
>Who cares
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>>18278967
To sleep with him? lol
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>>18278974
(I'm not even OP)
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>>18278976
That's pretty toxic lol.
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>>18278981
I realized when you said the female nature.
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>>18278958
You should be asking different advice, there is no doubt you are deeply troubled. Yes I'm samefag
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>>18278982
It's nature
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>>18278989
Ok? So are murder and stealing
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>>18278963
I'm a horrible flirt. I usually just touch a lot (I haven't tried that with him yet tho)

Touching arms
Touching thigh when they sit

Yep
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>>18278968
If you want to take that angle, then yes it is amoral. Considering no morality is tied to any action, only those we deem it, nothing really matters. If OP was raped and murdered it wouldn't be wrong, I agree under those premises. Although amoral, it is impossible to argue this lust won't have potentially disastrous effects. If oneself is the only entity that matters under this assumption of morality then OP is placing herself at risk. Losing her job is certainly within the realm of possibilities.

Nature may be amoral but our society is not. Society may be viewed as intimately connected with nature but it is the precaution against the indifference of nature that allows us to live harmoniously. For that reason the application of nature having no moral standard seems irrelevant in this case.
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>>18279000
So I shouldn't remain butter towards my ex for cheating on me, since her uncle sexually assaulted her?
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>>18279007
*bitter!
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>>18278996
Yes. And cheating wifes and cuckolding.

>>18278997
Touching is a classic, but don't underestimate the power of flirting with your eyes. How does he hold eye contact when you're interacting? Just not breaking eye contact usually creates sexual tension and by feeling how strong it is (in your gut) you can often assess how interested in you he is. If he's interested there really isn't a wrong way to engage unless your entire office notices.

>>18279000
Yes, I agree. But nature is potentially disastrous in general, it does not forgive or make exceptions to be nice. I just don't think she's placing herself under much risk, much more the boss is at risk of losing his job.

Society claims to be moral, but why is it then that the douchebags get the girls? or the biggest scumbags are being elected into politics, getting all the power? Society believes it cares a lot about morals and doing the right thing, but it's usually the opposite that actually happens or is advantageous to the individual.


>>18279007
what do you gain by remaining bitter? It doesn't do anything for anyone, only keeps you in a gloomy mood if you can't let it go.
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>>18279007
Are you asking in regards to the frame of morality and its relationship with humans? If you're just asking for my opinion I would advise you to forget her and move on. Nothing positive comes from holding a grudge unless you use that as fuel to improve yourself somehow. Even if you use it as fuel your journey of self improvement should reveal its petty nature, purging it from your life.
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find the tallest building around you
jump off of it
he will sleep with you after
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>>18279014
I'm really shy so I tend to look away, but I'll definitely try to hold it long enough with him.

Is it just a myth that older guys want younger girls? I don't expect him to fall in love with me. Just sex.
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>>18279014
Recognizing the ruthless aspect of nature should be evidence as to why we should not use it to dictate our moral status. Why do douchebags get the girls? Guys that act that way tend to display value in the girl's eyes that has been hardwired by evolution. That doesn't seem like a sound argument. You pointed to corrupt portions of society but that doesn't further your point. If society fails to act in accordance to its morals that isn't the fault of the moral standards. Rather, it is society that has failed if one adopts that perspective. If a murderer kills someone, the fault isn't with the laws set in place but with the individual.

My argument of her risk was adopting the amoral standard to my argument which had its basis in morality. I agree, her risk is difficult to assess under the current circumstances but I was trying to make it transfer over to your argument.
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Sleep with him if you want, but face the consequences graciously.
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>>18279022
I don't think anyone could ever love a person like you OP. Nor do I think you are capable of exhibiting or experiencing such an experience when you are such a base and contemptible collection of garbage.
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>>18279032
I genuinely wish I cared. I just don't.

Moving on.
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>>18279034
Obviously cared enough to reply :)
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>>18279034
I'm not telling you to care. Does a bag of feces care if I call it shit? Evidently not, it simply is what it is. You are a worthless whore so I don't expect you to shy away from embracing what you are. Hopefully the husband cares for his wife and isn't solely controlled by lust, as you seem to be.
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>>18279034
You don't get it, there is no moving on. You are at a disposition that will destroy your psyche and your relationship life. I don't know you, but please do not consider marriage or children.
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>>18278958
Sluts like you should either be a prostitute or work in the porn industry. If you can't do that just kill yourself.
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>>18279037
>>18279040
Of course I'll reply, am I supposed to huddle in my closet and cry because people on the internet think I'm an evil whore?

If you got it, flaunt it.
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>>18279022
absolutely not a myth. Best of luck. Also laughing at dumb jokes are a classic, but you probably know that already. Try also giving him a boner at work. Like find a way to grind your ass in his crotch, that usually gets me going from 1-100 in .2 seconds. I believe girls are pretty safe from harrasment suits in general and specially if you make it seem (plausably) not on purpose.

>>18279027
Why don't you think evolution psychology is a sound argument? We can see how that plays out everywhere every day. I'm saying society claims to have different morals than those that actually "matter" or is "in effect". Society has failed large portions of our demographics for many years and we can see symptoms of this everywhere. I believe laws that try to defy the rules of nature are wrong/dumb/whatever. You cannot stop the rules of nature no matter how much you try. It's like the fat acceptance movement these days; you cannot negotiate what is attractive, no matter how much the fats want to. And same with laws against murder, the laws cannot stop a person that is capable and wants to kill another person, its just how nature is and laws trying to stop nature will fail.

>>18279032
>>18279037
>>18279045
>>18279046
Please stay in your fantasy land of good feels and how we wish things were.
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>>18279048
You replied with a generic "sorry, not sorry", that doesn't sound very courageous.
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>>18279053
Stay in your world of pseudo intellectual babble, that no one in this thread will relate to.
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>>18279065
sure, just promise to not break in and steal my babble when it's convenient for you
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>>18279053
I think that evolutionary psychology isn't a sound argument for why amorality should be adopted as a way to rule one's life. Society, the parts that we enjoy, would be deemed incompatible and life would be miserable. Arguments for amorality tend to center on valuing the individual as the one who decides what is just and unjust. Amorality as a whole seems self-defeating in this sense unless approaching life from a nihilistic perspective. Many parts of society are ugly. OP demonstrates the vile and some of the disgusting aspects of it. However, be wary not to disregard the good that has come from our sense of morality. Charity is the adoption of these morals and its good can easily be seen.

Laws cannot stop a person from murdering but they are meant to punish. Adopting the opinion that fighting natures ruling is meaningless, there would be no cause to punish murder. If life cannot be valued as sacred then everything falls apart.

I would be willing to discuss the merits of nihilism which is where this conversation seems to be headed. However, amorality as observed in nature is a horrible way to govern society and an even worse critique of the structure that has been established.
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OP is a guy.
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>>18279089
Sure lmao
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>>18279089
I prayed monsters didn't exist.
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>>18279082
I mostly agree with you, but I'm not trying to say that amorality is THE way to rule a life. I mean more being able to recognize where your instilled morality tries to make you do something that's not in your best interest. For our morals do really come from a place, we didn't start with many morals as infants. And it's usually in someone elses interest that you adhere to the morals you've been fed since kindergarten and it is actually often very hard to go against these morals even when you realize that you have much more to gain by not behaving morally.

My biggest value is freedom and being able to do what you want and what you believe is best for you, and morality stops many many ideas that aren't necessarily wrong or bad, and that is not a healthy thing for society or our human race. There are always reasons for why things are the way they are, and why OP here wants to break up her boss' family. It's usually all in the evolutionary psychology.
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>>18279053
Here comes the "every girl can dick whoever she wants" argument. Yayyy lets all fuck eachother in one huge orgy and enjoy our carnal desires until our inevitable death.
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This ends today's Philo 170 lecture
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>>18279120
That last sentence was for you as well.
Sure, I wish all women behaved as well as the princesses from the movies, but we cannot let our wishes for the world cloud reality. If we do we weaken our ability to navigate the world by using false data as navigation points.
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>>18279089
What a twist!
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>>18279118
Morality may inhibit certain actions but I think it does more harm than good. Besides, what you deem as good and in someone's best interest is all relative, really. Morality in of itself is something of value if you adopt it. For that reason, choosing something like honesty over monetary gain makes that of more value, therefor acting in your best interest to be an honest person. I believe that morality is objective and comes from a higher place but that doesn't really matter in this discussion.

Freedom is certainly important but so are other people. To act as a selfish agent would eventually cause you harm as everyone would act the same way. If everyone was selfish people would eventually realize that it is in their best self interest to care and work with others; upon pillars that govern behavior, aka morality.
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>>18279137
oops I meant "It does more good than harm" lol.
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>>18278958
Let this be a lesson to other girls here. This just proves how evil women can be. We men try our best, but in the end we are animals with high testosterone drives.

Picture being with the same woman for years and years and then one day some good looking whore comes into your office and basically grabs your dick. You're taking us to the point of no return. Our brain is flooded with testosterone and whateber other endorphines cause us not to think straight. We then sex this person and once we cum, all those endorphines leave our brain and we now think logically. "Wtf did i just do...". Meanwhile this fucking cock temptress thinks she just won the game. She has us by the balls and uses it against us. She might even try and break our home to feel good and gain some sort of sick enjoyment and power out of it. Now we are divorced and our kids hate us because some lousy whore successfully tempted us with cheap pussy.

Women are fucking evil. Men simply cant control their endorphines and testosterone like a female can.
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>>18279143
you sound like a weak bitch not in control of your urges and emotions. let this be a lesson to you, guy, this is pretty standard female 2017
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>>18279125
It is because we do not fight against degeneracy that it continues to run rampant, not because we kneel down and embrace the chaos.
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>>18279143
Although largely governed, we are not slaves to our desires. To adopt such a perspective is to be a defeatist. Pieces of shit like OP should not be what make a man cheat. Men cheat because they choose to, not because some bitch made them against their will.
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>>18278958
> how to lose a job and destroy a mans life completely by having sex with him a few times.

You do understand that you will be caught and his wife will divorce him taking half his money and that you will probably not even enjoy the sex after a while?
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>>18279137
Yes it's completely relative, that's kind of the point I've been trying to make. And because it's all a matter of objective, can we really say that something, like OP wanting to split up a family here for some good feels, is a bad or good thing?

I believe it's your morals that are telling you right now that being a selfish agent will have consequences, because that is what we've been thought from birth. I've been acting way more selfish these past couple of years than ever before, and the results are astonishing. Only those who dare to throw morals out of the equation will reap the benefits and taking such risks is something most people cannot do. Again often due to these morals they claim to be following, because they think that's what will yield them the best results.

>>18279153
degeneracy is sadly often a part of the natural evolution of a society>>18279159

>>18279159
idd

>>18279162
but that's not OPs problem, now is it?
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>>18279150
>>18279159

You guys have never had a girl that was a hot piece of ass purposefully tempt you for weeks. You begin thinking about her. One day she gets close and is being overly sexual. She grabs your cock. Any guy loses in that situation.

Its easy to say no to a chubster ir ugly broad but when she is a mentally ill dime piece?

Lets be realistic. What you guys say looks good on paper but it isn't reality. This is a standard, home wrecking cunt. She had a shit life so she wants to ruin other peoples lives that got their shit together. Men are easily persuaded if you fuck with the chemistry of their brain. Its like a raging bull. If it sees red it sees red. Thats the end.
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>>18279179
You're projecting your weak morality onto others as a justification for yielding to temptation.
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>>18279179
God your a moron.
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sit on the photocopier take scan your ass and pussy and mix it with all the other useless shit your joke of a job entails when you slap a big pile of papers on his desk.
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>>18279206
Pics or it didn't happen
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>>18279211
i was making a suggestion
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>>18278958
>I have no moral problem with being ~the other woman~
What is the quality this guy has that makes women accept and even enjoy things like that...Goddamn mystery.
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>>18279236
I sort understand it, I have this weird thing where I find it kinda hot girls who cheat on their husbands/bf.
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>>18279179
I'm not saying it's a good thing and that we should celebrate OPs desires here, but getting butthurt and trying to make her change her mind just because it doesn't fit your morals is not only egotistical but also a dumb waste of time.

You're even trying to come up with reasons as to why OP wants to do this, why?
Because a women having these thoughts is crazy to you? Not in line with how you believe the world is?
Open your god damn eyes you weakling. I have 3 girl friends right now, I wouldn't get suckered in by a crazy (and hot) bitch unless I wanted to.
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>>18279198
Its you're you fucking 're tard
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>>18279271
No, it's not egotistical. Attempting to stop someone from potentially destroying a marriage is does not boost my ego. I'm not surprised that whores think this way. Believe me, I've known for quite some time that women have no concept of what honor is.

I'm surprised that someone with a mental disability could juggle 3 girlfriends. Do you also have a Lamborghini and live in a mansion? Your only good point was that attempting to change this sluts mind will be most likely to no avail.
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>>18279317
Why? Are you the hidden Warrior, royal protector of holy matrimony? Marriage is dead in 2017, there's only one positive thing about it now; money (for women). You don't even know the people in this marriage, yet you are very quick to denounce OP here as evil.
That's how I know you're a stupid beta male, good and evil is just a matter of objective.

Marriage also helps nature and the human race (as a whole) by separating idiot beta males from their resources and giving it to women that waste it on their lovers (usually alphas) and themselves instead. Circle of life
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>>18279334
Can't someone argue a moral issue without falling back on the theory of moral relativism? Yes, we get it, morality can be subjective if you adopt a certain perspective. Arguing that marriage only benefits the woman is asinine. Marriage benefits society and this has been proven. Children from stable households perform better and are better off than those who are raised in single family households. Marriage is also a tool to those born in low income households get out of poverty. Countless benefits are reaped from the institution of marriage.

No, I don't know those in the marriage but neither do you. They could have a child. Divorce can do quite a number on a child in the early years. Good thing you're super alpha though!! Makes up for your overall lack of intelligence and foresight.
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>>18279352
Arguing with someone like that is like talking to a wall. He's inexperienced and young I am sure. Watch him come back and say he is 45, divorced and has 3 g/f's.

Shes a fucking whore. A home wrecking tramp. If the guy wanted to cheat and go out of his way for pussy he would make the move...but he isn't. Hes being a good guy. If some hot slut is going to constantly tempt him one day he will fall. There is a point of no return for guys. Its all chemical. Its not their fault.

She's a worthless whore. She could easily go after an older guy thats single but she wont...why...cuz shes a dirty bitch, plain and simple.
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>>18279435
Why do you care so much about someone you don't know? (his wife)
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>>18279767
Because op is trash
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>>18279861
And here I thought people on 4chan were paragons of virtue
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you have to get her to go somewhere first, like a vacation or something. maybe get a coupon for a weekend spa whatever thing, say someone gave it to you but you're never going to use it so maybe he can give it to his wife or something. even better if you can get a guy friend to go in and get it for you. then wait for your boss to tell you his wife is using it that weekend. if he doesn't tell you, then he has no plans to make any move with you at all.
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>>18279893
Will try
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>>18278958
Eat shit and die
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>>18280069
cry
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lol. I feel nothing but immense sorrow for OP. people like her die alone.

(yes Op we know you don't care, you're an independent hot woman who doesn't take shit from anyone and you make your own destiny, collateral damage be damned, right girl? ) lmao
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>>18278958
Kill yourself you worthless cunt
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cheating is what broke my family apart twice. think about this carefully
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>>18280345
> implying we don't all die alone no matter what

>>18280358
or was is marriage?

>>18279352
>>18279435
lmfao these fucking white knights still believing in equal rights for men and marriage in 2017
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>>18278958
There are a ton of old guys around, and the best you have to say is that he looks good for his age? He doesn't sound special at all. Sounds pretty fucking bland if that's the most special thing about him. Seems like you're more in it for the prize, of possessing him, more than anything else.

Also
>treats her employees like trash
...what? Why're you mentioning it? Trying to justify your actions? Jesus fucking christ.
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>>18279179
>>18279179
I completely agree. That's why when my husband and I got into a big argument, I couldn't help but go into the arms of my close male friend. My female brain was so flooded with estrogen and whatever other chemicals make us have crazy emotions and not think straight. After I slept with him, I couldn't believe what I had done. And now my marriage is ruined because someone who I thought was a trusted friend emotionally manipulated me when I was weak and vulnerable.

Honestly men are the evil ones. Women simply can't control their voitile emotional states like men can.
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>>18281452
>implying we don't all die alone no matter what

I honestly never understand why people say this. Many, maybe even most, people spend their old age, and especially their last moments, surrounded by their family.
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>>18278958
Older woman are like that because they see little homewrecking whores like you come along trying to suck their husband's dick and steal them away leaving them alone, manless and even more bitter. Way to go slut!
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>>18281504
Uh, excuse me. YOU are the one who fucked another person, not your husband. That's on you. It's amazing how it's someone elses fault that you let some other dude slip his dick into you. If the marriage was that bad, get a divorce. Then you have the guilt free pleasure of slutting around all you want. Ya dumb cunt.

Cannot
Understand
Normal
Thinking

Yeah!
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>>18281603
Kek are you the same guy who wrote the testosterone posts?
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>>18279179
I actually have. Several times. This one girl straight up stuck her tits right in my face and asked "what you gonna do"? But I was married and did not want to hurt someone I loved. But you cunts have made me realize just now, exactly how much of a whorish mindset y'all have. Fuck off cunts.
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Why is adv full of such terrible turbo normies lately
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>>18281592
If I was old and aged, I wouldn't mind my husband dicking a younger woman t b h
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>>18281612
Because most of us have been here long enough to grow up
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hi kys bye
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