ITT: Ask the opposite gender anything

Why are all the girls I meet dumb and uncultured?
They only talk about getting with dudes or stupid normie "memes".
When I try to talk about films, politics, or music they don't know shit or have any opinions beyond the most average and bandwagon shit. I.e. "I love disney movies, i dont know why tho" and "fuck trump, hes such a bad man" and "i listen to whats on the pop radio".
MOST of them are like the exact same, why is this so common in women?
Legitimately curious.

>>18223609
Let me guess: you're approaching a variety of 'normie' women with the sole intention of dating them. Meanwhile, the guys you meet are losers, just like you, and not like the average guy at all. This'd produce a skewed perception, wouldn't you think?

Girls: Why do you participate on this board when there is so much negativity and generalization against women?

I feel bad for the broken guys making these comments but It makes for a poor atmosphere

>>18223609
Because they never needed to be smart or interesting to survive in the past.

>>18223609
Look dude, I'm a girl and have that exact problem. It's why I'm such a loner.

I have no advice as to why, but I've struggled with it since high school. At least I wasn't bullied, because I was always too confident and not ugly enough to merit it.

I just want a group of girlfriends to talk about classic literature, philosophy, cinema, history, music and politics with.

I suspect, although I may be wrong, that social media has brought out the worst narcissistic and boring elements of younger women, wile it's made men alienated and really weird. Just a guess though, but you're not alone in noticing that.

I have a small circle of friends and enjoy different hobbies together. I also have a girlfriend and wasn't looking to date any of the girls I was talking about.
Was genuinely curious because it seems very common in women. Sorry for triggering you

>>18223629
Because I know that guys on this board are not representative of guys irl. It's not like 4chan is my only social interaction, I have a pretty balanced life, so I don't take what I see here as gospel.

I'm here because I like to help people and hear about others' experiences. I hide threads and posts that are either bait or too extreme, and I don't get into arguments with guys who are clearly bitter or have something against women.

I think it's all a matter of being able to separate reality from internet. The irony is that the inability to do so is probably what creates these guys in the first place.

>>18223629
>Girls: Why do you participate on this board when there is so much negativity and generalization against women?

Masochism.

Nah, I just find it interesting, if depressing. I feel really bad for the guys here (and places like /r9k/) and wish they could be reassured, but I don't know if there's any reassurance for them anyway. I see (and know) a lot of man hating SJWs (I'm in uni) but none like this, so it makes me curious as to who, from the outside looks 'normal' but actually is a raging misogynist from years spent on this site.

So I guess morbid curiosity is the answer.

>>18223641
Thats a pretty good theory, I guess they start to think pretty highly of themselves when they got like 12 different guys on the burner asking for nudes.

>>18223609
>When I try to talk about films, politics, or music they don't know shit or have any opinions beyond the most average and bandwagon shit

Politics: You know how they say to never bring up politics at Thanksgiving dinner? Yeah, don't bring it up when talking to a girl you don't know that well either. Talking about politics is just asking for a pointless argument when you find out her opinions differ from yours and find that upsetting.

Music: Most people don't like to be judged, especially by strangers, so they'll give safe answers like "I like all kinds of music". I'm not about to tell a guy I love angry German music, I start more normie and let the weird trickle out over time when I know it's safe to.

I feel your frustrations on some level. Small talk usually annoys me because it's just so table-surfaced. Everybody seems to rifle through the same dialogue that's socially acceptable without getting to the interesting bits that show who they are. But it's because people are scared of showing who they are out of fear of rejection. Sure, I'd like to ask a guy if he thinks human cloning is good or bad, or if robots will ever reach a point where they can be considered alive, but that's not how the game of society works. Getting too real too quick just makes people uncomfortable, even if they might have answers that would actually interest you.

>>18223660
Not all of us hate women, I genuinely only come to 4chan because I'm sad I'll never find the kind of girl I want, only to be berated by strangers for wanting something "stupid". Really it just serves to worsen my depression and anxiety but I feel like I can't leave either.

>>18223677
So what do you want?

>>18223629
I like helping people, or at least trying to help people. There are good people here that just need some reassurance. Even the nasty ones only hurt others because they have been hurt. Still, even with that mentality, I have to take a break from it because the nearly constant stream of negativity agitates my insecurity and starts affecting my relationship. But I come back because I like learning people's stories and seeing if I can give any insight

>>18223670
Pretty much. It's why I've steered clear of social media for the most part. I have facebook to keep in touch with my mum, and Steam for games and keeping touch with online friends (alone with discord) but nothing else. I don't want to be infected with the basic bitch virus.

>>18223677
bruh this is an advice board, not a complaint board. If you are making yourself miserable, you'll probably get berated because people like you don't want to hear anything other than what validates their worldview.

>>18223676
>Small talk usually annoys me because it's just so table-surfaced. Everybody seems to rifle through the same dialogue that's socially acceptable without getting to the interesting bits that show who they are.
If you meet someone you get along with, you generally get into proper conversation pretty quickly. I'm not even extroverted and I haven't had a ton of trouble making friends or finding things I have in common with other people. That said, I don't consider myself to be better than other people, nor do I think that just because we don't have the same interests we can't be acquaintances.

In the end, if you're finding it hard to connect to other people, that's probably on you, rather than them. Most people don't have trouble with this sort of thing. Girls who can't make friends with other girls 'because I have nothing in common with them' are probably the worst in this regard.

>>18223684
I want someone who's similar to me. Introverted, inexperienced, doesn't follow the herd mentality, not into alcohol/drugs, etc...
Like, I easily fit all of those and actually look pretty good, but I've never met a girl like that irl.
>>18223695
Well I'm kind of extending this to 4chan in general a bit.

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>>18223699
>If you're finding it hard to connect to other people, that's probably on you, rather than them

>tfw trying to come up with a retort to distract from the fact that shit hit a little too home for you

Girls are attracted to me, but seemingly only for sex. I'd like something more. Wat do? Does my natural stoicism and tendency to scowl slightly keep the girls I'm after at bay?

>>18223723
Consider it a wakeup call then. You can't blame the world for all your problems, sometimes the issue is with you.

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Why have I never had a girlfriend at the age of 33? Yeah, I'm posting this a lot tonight, I think I'm at my wit's end with this. Not just girlfriend, but even one night stands.

People seem to go off me really quickly. I've actually been back to a girl's house who was all over me, she took me back to hers, then just totally went off me and wasn't interested. Every fucking time this happens. I feel like I don't exist. I know I'm not particularly attractive but it's not even like ugly girls are showing interest. Nothing.

>>18223733
How do I know when it's right to transition from normie stuff to real talk?

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>>18223609

Because smart, thoughtful women avoid you like the plague. Your superiority complex, entitled attitude and shitty sense of cultural worth makes interacting with you about as appealing as a jar of stale farts.

I'm guessing you're a member of this newly reformed wave of internet pretentious pseudo-intellectualism that thinks reading Nietzsche, meditating, only consuming music and film from indie sources and avoiding anything and everything that is popular somehow elevates you above the rest of the population.

"Oh, you like that thing that is popular? Obviously I'm better than you." You're like the newest version of the hipster.

You see a pattern because thats what you want to see. You see it because you are incapable of conquering your own narcissism long enough to see any differences in people other than the ones that you feel make you better than them. You wander around the world wondering why you can't meet anyone who meets your standards of culture and excellence and yet you fail to see that its because your air of superiority and constant culture nit picking is a noxious fume that repels anyone worth a shit. Its obnoxious.

>>18223676
Usually when I talk to another guy they have no qualms about telling me what they really like and we don't make a huge deal about differing opinions.
I was talking about purely to having a conversation without intents on dating the girl or anything like that

>>18223699
>In the end, if you're finding it hard to connect to other people, that's probably on you, rather than them. Most people don't have trouble with this sort of thing. Girls who can't make friends with other girls 'because I have nothing in common with them' are probably the worst in this regard.

I'm glad you posted this because I couldn't have said it better myself.

>>18223745
What does that even mean? There are so many things wrong with that I don't know where to begin

>>18223609
I'm usually guarded around new people, so I don't reveal too much about myself at first, nor would I do a very good job expressing myself even if I did

>>18223733
I'm not them, but I'm curious.
I'm similar, and have a ton of acquaintances but no one I'd call a friend, with enough in common to have the kind of conversations I want. Basically, I feel like I'm hiding tonnes of my personality and interests during the everyday.

Don't get me wrong, I've tried talking about stuff like philosophy and classic literature and cinema, but they aren't interested. I'm okay with talking about the minutiae of life (gossip, social media, memes, clothes etc. etc.) sometimes, but I'ld like to talk about other things as well and no one I know is interested. Would you say this is my fault?

>>18223754
I guess from general small talk to more personal questions, like their goals in life and the happiest moment they've ever experienced

>>18223629
Eh, because it sure beats tumblr.
Plus the r9k fags are generally well mocked on here anyway, it's not like anyone takes them seriously, men or women.

>>18223746
>indie film
They don't know who Stephen Speilberg is, they don't know Tarentino, they don't know peter jackson

Guess I'm a hipster guys

>>18223745
Interject your personal opinions or interests when it is relevant in the conversation. Abruptly switching from light to heavy is awkward and unnatural. If you want to talk about something or make a point, guide the conversation in that direction. If the other person doesn't want to talk about that, then don't press it, go with something else.

>>18223741
You're not unattractive (kind of average I'd say) so it must be your personality.

Okay, ladies.

I'm a guy in my late 20s. Have a girlfriend. Good friends with another couple - get along with them like a house on fire.

Thing is - every time we go out drinking, the girl is all over me. Nothing more than hugging and cuddling, but...well, it's been enough to mix up my feelings and start reciprocating. She's an incredible woman and we share so much in common, but I can't say I'm a fan of the idea of ruining two relationships and friendships simultaneously. Or hurting two other brilliant people.

So...why is she doing this? What should I do? Sit her down and talk to her? Think the only reason nothing has actually happened yet is because we're never really alone.

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Can some girl try to interpret this.

>At pub the other night
>Girl clearly giving me the eye
>Ignore it because I'm shy
>She starts playing Jenga with this giant Jenga set and a group of people
>Constantly flashing me glances, comes over and bumps into me with her ass
>Keeps walking past me and dragging her hand across my chest
>Going all out with the flirting
>I'm shitting myself
>She starts kissing her hot friend while, arguably, looking at me
>Keeps on flirting and eventually comes over and asks me to play Jenga with her
>Launch 100 megatonnes of spaghetti and refuse
>Have a few more pints and get talked into approaching her by my friend
>Say hi to her
>She immediately shoots me down and says she's a lesbian
>I'm just aghast
>She says "Next time maybe you should play Jenga when someone asks you"

>>18223766
>They don't know who Stephen Speilberg is, they don't know Tarentino, they don't know peter jackson
Damn, you must be hanging around some real dumb fucks then.

But if that's your idea of cultured then you should probably self search a bit and figure out if you don't deserve the uncultured swine.

>>18223741
This is a terrible answer, but I'll throw it past you anyway. I think you need to be more of a manly man

>>18223731
If you're in your 20s thats why.
Men and women alike in the college age just do not want anything serious, some for pretty understandable reasons, others just because they don't wanna settle down yet.
Give them another decade, and they'll get stir crazy and want to settle somewhere with someone.
It's not a man or woman thing though, just the age and culture. I'm a chick in the same boat. You know how many men I've met over the past 4 years I've been in school? Hundreds. You know how many stuck around when I told them I was looking for something serious? Zero.
Just wait it out.

>>18223741
Maybe too sweaty

>>18223772
You messed up when you spaghettied, anon. That's all there is to it. Try to be more aware/brave/drunk next time.

>>18223731
>Wat do? Does my natural stoicism and tendency to scowl slightly keep the girls I'm after at bay?
Probably. I mean if I see a douchy looking guy I'm going to avoid him and think he's a douche, not relationship material at all.

>>18223768
Well, how about this. I have a deep underlying belief that no one could find me attractive, and that if I act sexually towards anyone, even someone that openly, vocally fancies me, I feel like I'm sexually assaulting or harrassing them.

I put it down to that, but I don't know how to get over that if girls keep on not being interested in me after a fucking third of a century. I mean, does me being quite awkward negate everything else so utterly? I've literally had girls tell me they're "in awe of me", unprompted, yet not find me sexually attractive. I've had random girls tell me I'm hot and start talking to me, then just visibly grow disgusted with me being so awkward. I guess I'm fucked.

>>18223781
That's grease. I've still got really oily skin as an adult. I've seen specialists and basically I'm fucked.

>>18223769
Maybe they're swingers or something and trying to get you in? Who knows.
Either way you need to firmly tell her to back the fuck up, you aren't interested. Like, almost in those words exactly. At the very least say "I do NOT want you hanging off me, I am NOT interested in you sexually or romantically"
Talk to your friend too. For real friends tell friends when their girlfriends are whores.

>>18223759
>Would you say this is my fault?
If you're holding back your personality, then yes, I would. Believe it or not, there are normal people out there are actually interested in those topics and would be open to talking about them. If you don't want to sit there and test the waters with every person you meet, join a book club or something. It's also a matter of putting yourself in the right place at the right time; you're not going to get along with everyone, and that's okay.

>>18223762
Those aren't normal conversation topics on their own. I can't ever imagine having a conversation about something like 'my happiest moment ever' with anyone, those sound like those bullshit icebreakers they make you do when you start a new semester or something.

Just let conversation flow naturally. For example, if you end up talking about your majors, then you can ask them something like "what are you plans after graduation?" or "do you plan to do a masters?"

>>18223766
Who the fuck doesn't know who SpIElberg, TarANtino and Peter Jackson are?

>>18223777
But isn't it odd that after over a decade, no one is okay with me being less of a manly man than I should be? I mean, there are some terrible, ugly, boring, stupid people out there who have great sex lives. Is not meeting this level of "manliness" that condemning?

>>18223786
>Well, how about this. I have a deep underlying belief that no one could find me attractive, and that if I act sexually towards anyone, even someone that openly, vocally fancies me, I feel like I'm sexually assaulting or harrassing them.
Well, that'll do it.

Listen dude, relax, take a good long look at yourself in the mirror and say that you are attractive, you know girls find you attractive, and that if they're interested then it's okay.

If they're showing signs of interest it's not harrassment.

>>18223766
You are scum.
You have no idea how to relate to people so you've developed feelings of superiority.

>>18223794
>Believe it or not, there are normal people out there are actually interested in those topics and would be open to talking about them
Then where are they?

>>18223805
Running away from you at 100 miles an hour.

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>>18223759

>Would you say this is my fault?

Yes. Really sit for a moment and think about it. There are a billions of things out there at any given moment that capture human interest. The chances of meeting someone or even a few someones who share your exact set of interests is very remote, so as society has demanded, we must spread our web of mutual interests to a network several people. For example, I have a friend I love talking about music with and a friend I talk about art with and a friend I talk about politics with and so on and so fourth because not any one person or group can meet all of my needs. Its just not a realistic expectation of people.

Yet, you log onto 4chan and you see the pangs of the entitlement generation complaining that they can never find anyone that meets their extensive list of intellectual criteria; insisting that relationships with people are supposed to mimic the instant gratification nature of the internet. Then on top of that, as soon as one of these individuals talks about something that he or she views as a "normie" interest the entire well is poisoned and they completely write off that person as inferior all together. No WONDER you people can't find anyone to connect with. Its always "us vs. them" and "all or nothing" with you kids.

In short, being able to connect with a wide variety of people and find a small bit of common ground with all of them is what creates a social network and support system that stimulates you emotionally and mentally. We live in a time where the internet has pretty much neutralized an adolescents ability to socialize in a healthy way with other human beings in a live setting at all so its not a big surprise that humanity is puzzling and disappointing to you.

Also, as a side not, in my personal opinion, classic literature and philosophy are some of the most mind numbing and pretentiously obnoxious things to talk about in a real life social setting. It really sucks.

>>18223805
Everywhere. They just know that not everyone shares those interests and don't expect everyone to share those interests. Like I said, go join a book club or something. That'll increase you chance of meeting someone who shares those interests.

That said, you don't have to share interests to form a connection with someone like that. If you're going around thinking that you do, then you've missed out on a lot of potentially great friendships.

>>18223789
Tell him? He's often in the same damn room when this is happening. I mean, I catch his glances - I understand - and he does nothing, says nothing.

But that's the problem. I am interested. I just know that we can't take all this teasing any further and it's driving me up the wall. Her too, I imagine. Knowing her penchant for sharing a similar line of thought to my own, she's probably got the same questions and dilemma running through her head.

Is there any girl here from the Midlands in the UK (or nearby) that wants a platonic date? That's not some backdoor relationship thing, I really mean it. You can keep your rape spray pointed at me all night if you like. I just need practice but am in a vicious loop of being so awkward I can't get practice the normal way. I'm not fat and/or a neckbeard, for what it's worth.

>>18223809
Damn this thread is SAVAGE
I fucking love it, the past few have been weak

>>18223813
>Also, as a side not, in my personal opinion, classic literature and philosophy are some of the most mind numbing and pretentiously obnoxious things to talk about in a real life social setting. It really sucks.
Totally agree with this. I want to have fun when socialising, not feel like I'm in a first year philosophy or English class with the mature student who won't shut up because they think they know more than the professor.

>>18223766

Firstly, if you're going to complain about normie bullshit you picked literally the most mainstream, famous directors on the planet to belly ache about people not knowing about. The fact that you think knowing who Tarantino is makes you some kind of intellectual says to me that you're a metric fuck ton of autism.

Secondly, I've heard pretentious assholes like you pretend the knowing Spielberg movies makes you call AND I've heard them pretend that NOT knowing Spielberg movies makes you cool. For some reason its all about creating counter cultures for you kids. If something is popular, avoid it. If something is not popular enough, join it and then complain about it when it gets too popular.

Thirdly, you ignored the entirety of my post and decided to use half-ass sarcasm to address literally two words.

So yeah. You are a hipster. If you're talking on a regular basis with people who don't know who Stephen Spielberg is its because you're fucking retarded.

So, going off what that other guy said about not finding women interesting, I have a similar problem, but I'm a girl.
I have a group of 'friends' but I wouldn't say I have much in common with them. The only connection point is a liking for vintage clothes, and even then it's not like I want to talk about it. I find their conversation very dull, and I've similarly come up against this issue with other groups of girls I've befriended over the years. Not only are they quite boring (to me) but they're also very mean to each other. Before someone says "just try" I have brought up books I'm reading or interesting films I've discovered or music or whatever. They just don't care.

Is this just a girl group thing? That they like talking about gossip and each other and clothes and families and not much else? I have a group of genuine friends that are guys, we're all bandmates and get along famously, but I'd like some female friends as well, as there's always a slight barrier with men because they're liable to get crushes on you.

This has been my experience with every female group I've ever tried to befriend, dating back to primary school. Is it just a thing in groups of girls? Would I be better off trying to befriend individual girls?

Girls when a guy catches u looking at him is it mostly from you actually staring at him or ur eyes just wandering the room?

>>18223794
I knew I fucked up the names, anyways I'm 20 and the girls I meet are usually younger than me just cause thats how my connections turned out. Maybe its just that generation? I don't know

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>>18223809
kek

>>18223813
Like I said, I have a large group of acquaintances, but they share very little of my interests.

>>18223815
Then tell him to tell his chick to back the fuck off.

If you're interested, then talk to your damn gf, tell her how you wanna fuck another chick, see if she'll be down with swinging.

If you don't think she'll be cool with that then dump her because shit you're sitting over here lusting after another woman and she probably deserves better than that.

>>18223838
>I was only pretending to be retarded!
>Oh youth, so messed up with the facebooks and their instagrams

>>18223843

Then you fucked up. Your inability to connect with people you like reflects on your own ability to socialize, not theirs. You made friends with a bunch of people you don't like. Thats your bad.

>tfw I am one of the few people who has high standards, can't lower them and there is no solution to my problem

>>18223835
I'm interested in how feminazis will explain those girls' behavior.

>>18223836
Idk, I'd say it's pretty 50/50 for me.
But maybe might be more skewed towards "just looking around" because often when I'm checking a dude out I make sure I'm not caught.
I only ever sneak peeks when I'm outside and wearing sunglasses lol. I can stare them straight in the eye as I walk by and they won't even know.

But I'd say I check out dudes (whether I get caught or not) and catch eye contact just letting my eyes wander about the same amount.

>>18223835
Guy from the other post here, my girlfriend had the same problems with her group of girlfriends which is partly what prompted my post. Still curious for more theories

>>18223853
I just can't find people I do like. I live in a rural city, and there's a lot of anti intellectualism, anti artistic endeavour stuff flowing around. The main youth hobbies are crystal meth and fucking indiscriminately. Not even a book club (except for old ladies).

I will be moving soon (I'm in my final year of high school) but it seems sad to leave with no true friends.

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Girls. Everywhere I go I take my umbrella. It's like a purse for me. I have it full of quarters that my grandma gave me before she was taken away for stabbing my grandpa in self defense. She gave me a quarter every day since I was a kid and I keep them all in my grandpa's umbrella. So I take it everywhere I got to remind me of them because they were basically my parents.

Now I know nowadays an umbrella is weird because it rains a lot less, but I think I can get away with that. My problem is, when a girl approaches me, I always do this little flirty thing where I raise the umbrella and open it up and sing my grandma's favorite Frank Sinatra song "Something Stupid" as thousands of quarters rain down around us. Every single time the girl gets a little freaked. It might be my imagination but they definitely seem to go off me a bit and act more distant. Should I try a different song?

>>18223835
If you don't like those people then don't spend so much time with them

Male groups can get into talking dirt behind eachothers' backs as well, it just depends on the people you are around.

tl;dr find new friends who better suit your preferences

>>18223866
Don't frame it as sad. Keep a positive attitude, and you can see it as a chance to start your life in a new place.

>>18223866
>Not even a book club (except for old ladies).
What the fuck is wrong with old ladies? If they're someone you have stuff in common with, then go along. I volunteer and the other volunteers are basically nothing but old people, and they're great.

You can't complain you don't have things in common with people if you deliberately don't go along to places where people you have things in common with go.

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>>18223866

>I'm in my final year of high school

Ok, well this explains a lot. If you had opened with this I wouldn't of even bothered typing out such a thoughtful response. You're a kid. Everything is supposed to suck. Its going to continue to suck until you gain the knowledge and maturity necessary to start socializing like a real human being.

>>18223835
Befriend individual girls that share your interests. Make your own group. You already know the answer.

>>18223835
Come here and suck my dick and in return I'll give you some nice advice.

>>18223883
No, I know the old ladies. They're scary and talk about knitting and their grandkids.

>>18223835
>This has been my experience with every female group I've ever tried to befriend, dating back to primary school. Is it just a thing in groups of girls?
No, it's you.

>>18223866
Not just >>18223883, but if you can't find something, make it yourself. Forming your own club isn't something hard, you just need to put the effort into arranging it. Go on, make something of yourself!

>>18223896
She is in high school. Girl groups are awful in high school.

>>18223902
I went to an all-girls high school, they really aren't.

>>18223909
maybe you were lucky then. But in my high school they were cruel and tore each other to shreds emotionally on a regular basis.

>Rubbing clit doesn't feel good
>Penetration doesn't feel good
>Oral doesn't feel good
>Anal obviously doesn't feel good

Will I ever enjoy sex? Or will it always just be something I put up with for his sake.
(And no, I'm not asexual. I crave it all very much, until it starts happening and I remember how awful it all feels.)

Only thing that's ever felt good was a low powered/half dead vibrator over 4 pairs of panties. That's not exactly a fun co-op activity for couples though.

>>18223909
Kek no, girls are fucking terrible, especially in the teens. It's biologically proven we're all psychopaths in that stage of life.

>>18223912
So basically you made a generalisation that all girls are horrible based on your experience alone (and probably stereotypes)

>>18223913
L O N D O N ?

No seriously, come here and I'll make you cum somehow.

>>18223902
In high school and in a band, only real friends are guys. Yeah. Seems to check the predefined boxes.

>>18223835
Hey kid, look around for others like yourself, be they in your class, year, people who turn up to your gigs, etc. Make your own circle of female friends if that's what you wanna do. Most girls I've known like you have either had very few female friends up until their late twenties/early thirties, or formed their own clique. Mostly the former. Make of that what you will. Oh, and drop the crowd you don't give a shit about.

>>18223909
Maybe you were the bitch then, or at least, not the one picked on or ignored. There's a reason there's a trope of introverts or people with slightly less than mainstream hobbies hating high school. For kids outside the bog standard mainstream, it's awful.

>>18223918
Tad across the world from me unfortunately.

>>18223917
No? Do you have the reading comprehension of a 12 year old? I said girl groups in high school are often awful. It's based on my and literally everyone I know's experience of high school. My friends from different schools all had similar experiences.

>>18223924
Then you'll be crossing two massive lengths to cum, if you know what I mean. ;))))

>>18223913
Sounds like you're one of those hyper sensitive types, in a bad way. Like...not sensitive like, "oh, I'm cumming after you brushed my arm", but sensitive to the point where anything sexual is painful. I think you can get treatment for that. Ain't gonna link anything, but you should look into this yourself if you somehow weren't aware.

>>18223919
Thank you for the advice.

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>>18223930
kek.

>>18223933
Shit. Welp what is the treatment, numbing creams? Because I already did that just to get penetration to be possible, and well, it's possible now at least but that's about all it did.
Is there a pill or a surgery or something?

>>18223909
I also went to an all girls school for a brief period. Worst 2 years of my life. It was hell on earth tbqh.

>>18223867
How the hell do people even think this shit up?

>>18223964
I know. They should channel it into something creative.

>>18223778
>Just wait it out
I really don't want to wait until I'm 30 just to have sex again, but I don't want to spend the next 10 or so years having casual sex with lots of women either. I'd preferred to be in a relationship in which I care about and am cared about by the other person. Is there a way to make that happen?

>>18223961
Hell I just lived in a all female dorm hall (by chance, not because it was by rule segregated) and it literally took 2 weeks for all out war to start. The halls were plastered with one chicks nudes, someone snapped a pic of another chick going into planned parenthood and the rumor she had an abortion flew like wild fire. Then a single dude moved onto the floor and suddenly all those bitches were murdering each other socially trying to bang him before the rest of them could.

It was terrifying and I just stayed in my room the whole time avoiding my roommate because she was apart of the drama too and trying to recruit me into her cliques side.
Teenage girls are forces to be reckoned with and will stop and nothing to destroy one another, fuck those bitches will even take themselves out in the process just to get the last laugh.

>>18223976
It's the hormones I'm telling you. Like we're PMSing for a good 4 years straight.

>>18223936
No worries. Hope you find people you can get along with.

>>18223941
Look up vestibulodynia. You should probably go to a gynecologist (or local doctor) and get them to check what's up. I can tell you're young and how you figure that'd be weird and all, but if you're really having problems with sex that are this bad, it's worth looking into. As for your man, just keep him stimulated with hand/blowjobs until you get yourself sorted. Don't put yourself through undue punishment.

>>18223975
Then do what everyone else is and just fuck around. Those are really your only viable options mate.
You masturbate, join the game, wait it out, or spend years and years and years praying to find the 1% of people who are like minded to you.

But you'd be better off buying lottery tickets 2bh. The likelyhood you'll find someone wanting to settle that early in life that isn't completely hideous or insane is pretty low.

>>18223967
>implying that wasn't creative

>>18223731
Oh, what a terrible problem, you fucking piece of shit. I hope you die.

>>18223987
>do what everyone else is and just fuck around
Way to make me feel like even more of a weirdo.

>>18223992
Something outside of 4chan posst.

>>18223975
What sorts of girls are attracted to you? Easier said than done, but find someone who you like, that you find to be funny, who you share interests with. This is what I've done in the past and I've had two major relationships - one for 7 years, one that's currently ongoing at 6 or so? That 7 years one started back when I was 16. The following one started in my early 20s. So they are out there.

>>18223835
Man here, I have a similar problem. For whatever reason I haven't been able to get along as well with my peers as an adult. They all seem to think I'm fucking stupid and constantly try to push me to do things I don't want to.

>>18224004
First off, stupid:
1 - Check her advice, see if it applies to you
2 - Are you actually stupid?
3 - If you ain't stupid, your peers sound like assholes. Find other people to spend your time with.

>ITT: I can't get along with other people but it's them, not me, I swear!

>>18224020
It is my mom said I'm perfect

>tfw trying to groom a 19 year old mentally ill girl on a self-help forum.
Mom, dad, I hope you're proud.

>>18223986
Yeah, it's never fun talking to the gyno but I suppose I will. I never bothered about sex stuff before because she's not a sex therapist. Plus idk how she'll see whats going on unless she's gonna go and try and get me off or something lol.

Not gonna lie, I was just going to start accepting that sex just probably isn't good for women, or at least as good as it is for men and take my beating for eating the apple.

I've really only started getting concerned because the last month or so I finally met a dude willing to go down and that was basically the only thing I hadn't tried yet. Now I'm just kinda like "Fuck so literally nothing works then?"

ITT: Feminazis and SJWs have a hard time explaining why most (not all) girls are terrible, especially the teenage ones

>>18223913
Have many times have you had sex? Maybe it will get better when you body gets used to it?

>>18223998
Hey man, you can take it that harshly if you want. Being the minority is not always being the weirdo.
I mean I would much rather date than just fuck around myself, but I'm also super ugly and fat and know I'll never be anything more than the desperation lay anyway, forget ever having anyone interested in seriously dating me. Beggars can't be choosers, I'm just thankful even an ugly chick like me can get into the casual sex game and have someone around for 10 minutes.

So if you've got better looks than me at least you have a shot later in life.

>>18224010
I'm smart. I know it, they know it, but they still condescend to me all the time anyway. Now that I think about it, it probably has a lot to do with the fact they're all older than me and I have little in common with them. Still though, what the fuck is with grown ass men gossiping about each other?

>>18224036
Well I'm not doing either. I have a shitty version of sex a few times, like limp penetration and no cumming, almost a decade ago. That was it for me whole life. No relationships, no one night stands, no nothing.

I stopped feeling human a long time ago.

>>18224031
Well. I've been with a few girls and I can tell you that they enjoyed it; it's not just some kind of crazy myth.

Anyway, as said, you should hit up the gyno and see what they can do for you. Aside from the tip about vestibulodynia, I ain't got nothing else to give you from personal experience, being a guy. Guess I can say that my ex, who was a virgin, took a little while to adjust the first few times - but it didn't take too long at all.

>>18224032
Quite a few, I mean I'm no seasoned veteran in the world of PIV sex, but I've had it a couple times. Couple of different guys too, so I know it's not them. Plus, I've been getting fingered since I was 15 so penetration in general is not something new to my body.

I guess my next thing to try is, well, actual loving sex with a dude I have a strong attachment for and has a strong attachment for me.
Buuuut I'm not really holding my breath for that one. I'm picky, and so is everyone else. Lose lose for everyone.

>>18224050
Yeah, thanks anyway mate. I'll check in on this disease thing for the time being.

>>18224039
>Now that I think about it, it probably has a lot to do with the fact they're all older than me and I have little in common with them.
>Now that I think about it
>smart

Sorry, man. You set yourself up WAAAAY too easily.

And yeah, men can be just as bad as stereotypical women. Groups bitch in general, male, mixed or female.

Ladies: you know how Tinder shows mutual friends?

Should I ask my female friend about someone she knows? Or is that weird?

>>18224064
Do it. Better chance of getting set up, since you can get a recommendation from your friend. Could make things a lot easier for you.

>>18223797
Wait a minute, I should have said: If it's that, why am I not even being approached in the first place. In the past 8 years or so, I've been approached by girls twice only. I've swiped "like" on Tinder and OKCupid literally thousands of times. It feels like playing a game but it's glitched so you can only ever miss.

>>18224064
Weird. Idk why tinder even does it 2bh. If I already knew you and liked you, why the fuck haven't I already gone for you then? Where's the logic in that.
I immediately swipe no on mutuals because there's not a single person on my friends list that I'm interested in (that hasn't already rejected me at least).

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>>18224099
>in b4 people legitimately respond to this lol

>>18223987
I'm not trying to get married yet, because I know I won't be husband material for a few years. I'm hoping to have a committed relationship that may or may not last through when I achieve what I have set out to
>>18224003
For reasons I don't fully understand, ever since I was about 15/16, women in the 30-45 range have been the most drawn to me by far. After that, it's "alternative" girls who come across as a little kooky, and the occasional foreign tourist
>>18224036
That guy isn't me

>>18224091
You might be confused.

I don't know the woman on Tinder. I have a friend in common with her. I would ask the friend who knows both of us about the Tinder woman I don't know.

>>18224099
She knew you both and picked him. You lost. It doesn't matter how good your are, or how you compare to him. She already chose him.

Men, I'm curious. Why do you think some guys are fascinated/verbally harass lesbians?

I'm dating this girl, she's Japanese and about 9/10, and I'm probably also around 8 or 9/10 on the attractiveness scale. If we're affectionate in public (holding hands, a peck on the cheek, a quick kiss) invariably some guy will feel entitled to holler at us. I've also had many men tell me that 'they'd turn me straight' or whatever, and won't leave me alone. My girlfriend has experienced similar things.

I'm not saying it's all men, but it's significant enough proportion that we no longer act at all affectionate in public. Why do you think certain kinds (and it is a type, typically a fuckboyish, frat boy douchbag) of guys do this?

>>18224128
Why are you letting other people control your public life?

>>18224139
Because it's simply not worth doing anything else. They don't listen to you when you ask them to stop, in fact then they just say you're a bitchy man hater.

>>18224128
>Why do you think some guys are fascinated/verbally harass lesbians?
I like thing.
Two of thing is even better.

If they're harassing you they're a cunt but it's hardly a mystery why many men find it sexy.

>>18224128
Because they think they are entitled to your body, and can't imagine you not wanting them. They are assholes.

>>18224139
Experience frequent harassment and see if it impacts your behavior.

>>18224128
It's probably a mixture of the following in varying degrees of strength
>they're insecure
>they think it hot
>they think you're not actually gay

>>18224119
Yeah but everyone else is in the mindset of "Why get attached if it's not even gonna work. Why commit to one person right now and then have to move across the world from one another as our job offers roll in, when I can be fucking as many people as I want right now and settle down later once I've already set up my own permanent life?"

There just isn't much incentive to the temp relationship, when fucking around is basically just that but with additional benefit of getting to fuck as many people as you see fit.

>>18224142
I mean I guess if you're okay suppressing how you would naturally act in public that's fine, but I feel like I wouldn't be okay with changing how I behave just because of how other people might react

>>18224128
>(and it is a type, typically a fuckboyish, frat boy douchbag) of guys do this?
>'they'd turn me straight'

As a former "nice guy", let me tell you something.
There is method in their madness.

Because these guys are looking to get laid.
And straight girls fuck these guys.
All the fucking time.
Non stop.
Because they have this attitude.
It's fucking hilarious (when SHTF for all included parties) and tragic at the same time.

Basically, they get what they want by being assholes. So it's encouraged.

Meanwhile I try to keep my head down and mind my own business, only to have the workplace tranny and lesbians tell me how I'm evil because I have a cock and it automatically makes me a predator to the point where I'm slowly turning into /pol/ incarnate.

>>18224121
Oh fuck you know what you're right. My bad man I'm retarded and a little high and can't read.

Now that I'm a little less illiterate, I'd say it depends how well you know the mutual friend. If they're a good friend of yours, hell yeah ask them to hook you up and save you the cringy tinder talk and obviously forced interaction. Meeting through a friend is always better than any dumb dating site.
If you don't know them that well though, it'd probably be weird though

>>18224155
>how other people might react

This is a hypothetical situation for you. It is not a hypothetical situation for her. She itchy changing her behavior because something might happen, she is changing it because it does happen.

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>>18224128
Typically dumbasses that think it's hot or just dumbasses that think they're hot shit. Either way, it's just morons. A gay friend of mine says a lot of women try to turn him all the time so it's not exclusive to either side either.

Oh and I've had gay guys try to turn me as well. People just don't understand that you are what you are and there's no changing it.

>>18224163
Its kinda weird. We talk frequently. We aren't great friends, we've only met once.

But we've talked about relationships, and I know in that regard she understands where I'm coming from. So I thought maybe I'd ask is, considering what I told her, if this other person and i might make a good match.

>>18224143
>>18224150
>>18224151
>>18224160
>>18224169
So I'm to understand it that men are trained to be entitled pricks and they don't have any respect or know how to be decent human beings?

>>18224169
Yeah, I'm aware it's not gendered, however I think the harrassment in the street is.

>>18224177
Those men are, yes. When you described it at being a type of man, there's a reason it is the same type every time.

>talking to girl online in a mental health forum
>she's really insecure about her appearance and has a non-personal avatar
>actually really like her from talking to her
>get a little drunk
>get the balls to talk her into putting an actual picture up because I bet she's nowhere near as bad as she thinks
>she changes her profile pic
>actually really pretty
>tell her that, she won't accept it, I keep insisiting, I think she likes it and a bit of a moment starts to happen
>says that she still won't accept she's pretty because she's never had a boyfriend
>I say that I've never had a girlfriend either
>at this point I think it's obvious what I should have said - but only in retrospect
>have been continually drinking since earlier
>cross a horrible mental line and get really depressed
>start talking about how the other mentally ill people don't know how bad it is becauase even though they're constantly talking about self harm they all have gfs/bfs
>she starts to get a bit annoyed with me
>I escalate, really ranting
>she sticks with me, reasoning with me but I've kind of lost it
>calm down and apologise
>no response
>that was a few hours ago - it's now 2:30am to be fair

Did I fuck that up? First time in my life I've spoken to someone that's been through what I have.

>>18224177
It depends on the people and area really. Shitty people in a shitty area? You're sure to get it. But for nicer places, it's a lot less likely.

Trust me though, it's not just men. Both sides can be pretty upset by someone not being attracted to their gender at all. Going off what my girlfriends told me, lesbians can be pretty pushy about wanting women to try out lesbian stuff and even forceful about it. Obviously not all lesbians are like this but she's had more than one experience like that.

>>18224177
>So I'm to understand it that men are trained to be entitled pricks and they don't have any respect or know how to be decent human beings?

The ones that do have respect or try to be decent, or even just try to mind their own business, get shit on, see >>18224160
>meanwhile I try to keep my head down and mind my own business, only to have the workplace tranny and lesbians tell me how I'm evil because I have a cock and it automatically makes me a predator to the point where I'm slowly turning into /pol/ incarnate.


Whereas the other guys get sex with beautiful women.

So yes. You're right.
We are trained to be massive arseholes (by both men and women), to the point where I'm now questioning why I'm still trying to mind my own business.

Pics of your hot gf?

Again, someone's going to encourage this. Just how it goes.

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>>18224185
>Hitting on chicks in a mental health forum
Top fucking kek.

>>18223772
Women get really spiteful when they're sending you signals and you don't respond to them. And since they're not consumed by their sex drives the way men are, they can decide on the spot that they're no longer horny.

>>18224177
The world is full of crappy people

I'm a guy and I've been catcalled and touched without permission by both sexes several times before

What do you think it could be about me that attracts 'nice guys'? I use the inverted commas because they are the typical fedora tipping, "womyn owe me sex if I'm nice to them/nice guys finish last/women are sluts and whores for not sleeping with me" tier guys. I seem to have had a disproportionate number of these kinds of men deciding I'm their one and only and then getting creepy, aggressive (and on several memorably occasions legitimately stalking me) when I say (as kindly as I can) that I'm not interested.

I can't for the life of me figure out why this is, other than maybe that I'm not a total bitch to them. But that doesn't mean I like them, it's just me being a decent human being. Does anyone have any idea what attracts these kinds of people?

>>18224213
Where do you live? I'm an awful guy and I'll fuck you.

>>18224213
Well how are you meeting them exactly? Through friends, random encounters, internet dating etc?

>>18224221
Nice try, but I'm not looking for sex. Just to get these types of men to not latch onto me.

>>18224213
>other than maybe that I'm not a total bitch to them.

This is seriously all it takes.
These are bottom of the barrel -tier guys, so naturally almost all women are total bitches to them. They fall into some obsessive form of love for any girl that shows them any compassion.

I'd know, I was one.

>>18224198
Nigger, I've marinaded in the juices of 4chan for over a decade. What do you expect.

>>18224213
You're a nice girl. You're not incredibly hot, but you're very girl-next-doorsy i.e. approachable. These guys have developed the mentality that most girls are sluts and whores, and you're a unicorn to them

>>18224222
Generally in classes etc. (I'm at uni) but it's been happening since high school. For some reason I was a school shooter type magnet. Some are from parties, or clubs or whatever. Just randomly.

>>18224226
>Nigger, I've marinaded in the juices of 4chan for over a decade. What do you expect.
Kek. That's a great expression.

>>18224213
My guess is you come across as a nerdy sweetheart who will accept their faults in their heads

>>18224213
As someone who is shy but OK with getting rejected, I can tell you in the past I harbored crushes for similarly nice women. Kind, caring, not aggressive. Someone I thought I might have a shot with.

The fact that you let them down nicely means they think you are nice enough you might accept them. They take rejection personally. They think "we are both nice. I'm nice enough ti like her. Why is she being a Bitch?"

Don't let them dowm nicely. Let them down harshly. It might fire them out of that "nice" mentality.

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>>18224238
So I have to be mean? I don't have a mean bone in my body-I don't know how to manage that. How do I learn to be harsh like that?

>>18224252
You'll eventually get a spine when someone goes too far. I didn't learn to start saying no to people until an ex made my pooper bleed because I didn't want to disappoint him by saying no to anal without lube or prep work

>>18224252
Come to the UK and I'll give you a mean bone.

>>18224252
>So I have to be mean?

Yes.

If you want to get rid of them.

>>18224252
You don't have to be mean, just assertive and be able to stand up for yourself.

>>18224252
just flat out say that youll never have sex to them early on

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>>18224226
Tru, cheers mate. lmao we're all fucked up in here.

>>18224258
How drunk are you right now?

>>18224252
Not necessarily mean, but firm

>>18224296
Why, do only drunk men want to fuck you?

Looking for a NSA/FWB partner on Tinder. How should I approach you girls?

>>18224252
You don't have to be mean, you just can't be too nice.

When I asked my friend to a movie, she said yes. I assumed it was a date, implied in the asking. She did not see it as a date. OK, that's my bad.

Weeks later I told her I loved her. She told me she loved me as a friend.

That's too nice of her. I held on to hope for years. And it's absolutely not her fault. But it would have been better for me if she explained explicitly that, say, she values my friendship and would never ever risk that for a relationship because she doesn't see me that way.

And again, I should have been clearer too. We were both not willing to speak plainly enough.

Okay, so is it better to, groan, be yourself come what may? Or to act like an aloof asshole? Or be attentive? So many contradictory ideas going around in general.

Ultimately the pussy magnets seem to be complete dickheads, yet the cuck-like attentive ones also do well sometimes. All I know is whatever I do, I'm still alone.

>>18224321
With honesty. Make your intentions clear off the bat, so you don't waste her time or your own.
When it comes to hook ups, we know if we're interested almost immediately anyway, you don't need to do much. You're either hot enough to bang or not. You just need to prove you're not some weird psychopath or autist. Chat and make sexual flirts after establishing you're both just in it for sex for a day to establish there are no red flags, then make your move.

>>18224334
If you want a relationship be yourself. People who love you for you will stay. If you act aloof to score with some chick, she might not like who you really are.

>>18224334
You know every guy who gets women? They're being themselves. Some of them ARE assholes. Some of them ARE clingy. The thing they have in common is that they are just being who they are. Being yourself and being an asshole is not mutually exclusive.

>>18224334
>B urself

Seriously though, balance is key. Nobody likes a complete asshole. Nobody likes a complete autismo either.
You have to have the balance of "I'm confident and comfortable enough with my own life that adding you to it is just a bonus than anything, and if you reject me oh well there are tons of other ladies out there. However should you give me the chance, I'll take care of you while still being an individual. You won't become my whole life, because that shit is weird and exhausting, but you will be a part of my life"

>>18224344
I'm being myself and I've never got anyone in over 3 decades.

>>18224348
>You have to have the balance of "I'm confident
>diagnosed with GAD
welp

>>18224349
No one said that being yourself guarantees you a girlfriend. It just increases your chances

>>18224349
Ok unless you're 50, you haven't really been trying for 3 decades. Nothing counts before 20, because you're basically still a dumb fuck child before then. If anything you've been trying a single decade.

Be yourself doesn't mean self improvement isn't a thing. You can still improve upon yourself, but the kicker is you have to be doing it because YOU want it, not because you're trying to attract some dumb broad.
If there's anything about yourself you would like to change for your own benefit, then do it. It'll probably help your confidence which will then inturn help you with the ladies.
>>18224352
Get treatment faggot. Just because you have anxiety doesn't give you a free pass to wallow in self pity. Find a treatment that works. We all have to.

>>18224177
I explicitly stated that if they were harassing you they are cunts.

Girls: What constitutes a good Tinder bio?

girls when ur working on the clock do you stare at guys shopping, and do u try to talk to them

>>18224357
>Get treatment faggot. Just because you have anxiety doesn't give you a free pass to wallow in self pity. Find a treatment that works. We all have to.
I've been getting treatment since I was 19. I'm 33 now. I've done all kinds of drugs and therapy. Nothing's really helped. I've tried dating apps, all that crap. I could literally be a giant walking turd and it wouldn't make any difference.

>>18224363
Seconded. That's a good question, although obviously it'll differ for everybody.

>>18224363
What are you after
>Sex
Something flirty and sexually suggestive, all we really need is your pictures anyway but something like that in a bio will help you stick out.
>Relationship
If you aren't going to contact us first (like all goddamn tinder dudes) then you have to give us something to comment on. Write something about yourself that you think is unique-ish and cool.
The goal is to get a girl to read it and go "Oh my god no way, me too!"
Fuck, I bonded with one tinder match over pineapple on pizza since he wrote that he too was a heathen who likes it. I was like "shit everyone hates this shit but me, cool" So I messaged him.

>>18224387
I'm looking to meet new people, and maybe a relationship if we click as cliche as it sounds.

On the few matches I manage to get I always message first.

How much of a turn off is a shitty car? Not average but shitty, like homemade bumper and grill shitty. I try to have a sense of humor about it but I think about it a lot.

>>18224392
Good, that's a rarity and will definitely help you stand out.
Anyway, advice still stands. Put something about yourself, and include what you're looking for right off the bat.

>>18224403
I couldn't give a fuck about a car. I don't even own one.

>>18224403
As long as it runs I don't give a fuck really. Also keep it clean.
I'll tell you, the dude that turned me off the most with his car was I went to get in and had to wade through about 50 mcdonalds bags aging god knows how long and the smell was horrific. The cleanliness of your car is much more important than the make/model/year/damage to it mate.

>>18224403
Depends on your circumstances. If you're a student, then that's fine. If you're working, then I'd be wondering why you're still driving it around because you can get better cars for just a couple of thousand.

Ultimately, I care whether your car is clean more than what it is though. I'm not impressed by flashy cars, just something that gets you from A to B reliably is what matters.

>>18224407
Did you still suck his dick while wading in Happy Meals?

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>>18224420
..... Well, I'm not exactly proud to admit I did indeed suck his dick, but not in his car at least.

I... Uh, am pretty desperate for affection it seems and my standards have plummeted.

>>18224421
Oh god, why don't you live near me?

im having trouble wrapping my brain around polyamorous relationships. im 21 and it seems like its more and more common with people my age (18-25). I don't think its the thing for me but I saw a shitty tumblr post on facebook about how "toxic" monogamous relationships and how being exclusive to one person and not having attraction for others is bad.

im all like at that point, wouldn't it make sense just make the relationship a casual fuckbuddy situation instead of being committed to one person? Im not saying you should be over-bearing and clingy to one person, but if you do love someone, enjoy being with them, enjoy sex, etc. What the fuck is wrong with just keeping it a serious monogamous relationship?

it was probably just some more retarded tumblr bullshit but just be fuck buddies if you want to date other people. I understand loving someone and wanting to fuck others, but it just seems like a waste of time doing that.

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>>18224422
Because the midwest is a black hole that sucks away all of your life and dreams and should be avoided at all costs, therefore nobody ever lives around here if they have any value for their lives or futures.

>>18224425
Come to England and let me fuck you senseless, please.

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>>18224427
Can I marry you for citizenship because I'd love to be free from this hell

>>18224430
Yes as long as you suck my dick while crawling though Happy Meal boxes.

I'm actually serious, that's the sad thing. Well not so much the Happy Meal part.

>>18224421
DD tits girl, is that you?

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>>18224432
Kek of course, I'd be a good little mail order bride.
The good news is I'm about a third of the size of the average amerifat so shipping should be pretty cheap.

>>18224439
I do have DD tits but so do a lot of girls lol. I'm /a/ DD tits girl lol

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Guys,
Does tech stuff come across as a red flag for antisocial behavior when girls bring up that they're into it? Whenever I'm talking to someone who isn't from the same field as me, I've noticed a constant theme of them either going "what the fuck" or just losing interest due to not being able to relate. I can't tell if it's a personal interest thing, or if there's a valid stigma around it that I've just been too autistic to notice.

Been overcompensating for a lack of femininity, but I'm not sure if I should just start by finding some less isolated hobbies.

>>18224445
"T-chan"?

>>18224443
You think I'm joking but I'm fapping over this conversation.

>>18224449
Personally I'd just be relieved you have actual interests, just be sure to stop talking about tech stuff if they're not interested

>>18224449
I assume guys who aren't into it would think it's very odd for a girl, because of the mistaken belief that there are only male nerds.

But don't give up on something you like to please others.

>>18224454
Does it matter? This board is anonymous for a reason.

Girls, is it weird that I fill up a bottle of water to drink as I browse the internet, take a few swigs every so often, and then suddenly the whole fucking bottle is empty? Guys can answer too but only if you type like a girl.

>>18224449
Its been a thing through history that dudes tend not to like girls who are smarter than them.
And no, this isn't like a dig at dudes being dumb or anything, I don't fucking know shit about computers either.
But the tech field is generally a more masculine field and a lot don't like to feel undermined by a girl in something they feel like they should have known themselves.

However, I'd say most rational guys are not going to be that bothered by it. They might be like "Oh. eh. Ok then" but it's not likely to be some massive deal breaker.

But also, nobody really likes having a conversation about something they know nothing about, especially something complex like that. So yeah, the not being able to relate thing is probably more it than anything. Widen your experiences/interests or look more within your own field.

>>18224458
>Does it matter? This board is anonymous for a reason
Pretty bitchy answer.
I was just wondering why you disappeared.

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>>18224454
Is that like Mr. T lol.
Because yes. I am Mr. T.
>>18224456
Pic related lol

>>18224461
No, a bottle is just a vessel. It only holds as much as you put into it. Once you empty it, that means you have to fill it up again.

>>18224466
Want a pic of me cumming, bby? Now that we're practiclaly married.

>>18224468
Woah woah woah. I asked for an explanation, not a masters degree in quantum physics.

>>18224471
kek its a blue board anon

>>18224476
There has to be a way. Our love will find a way.

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>>18224475
Hold on to your butt

>>18224404
>that's a rarity and will definitely help you stand out.
Really? I thought everyone knew since girls never message first and they have their pick of the guys you have to message first to even stand a chance. The necessity of Bumble should have made every beta like me realize this.

>>18224465
That was someone else btw.
Idk who Tchan is though.

>>18224490
>The necessity of Bumble
Eh, what is that?

>>18224493
A dating app where women message first. In theory it prevents harassment.

>>18224490
Pfft, Idk maybe it's different for really hot chicks but no. Nobody messages first anymore. And I'm certainly not getting dudes lined up at my door begging for my attention. Fuck, I'm the one begging them for attention.
This whole "Every chick gets a billion messages" thing is a myth.
>>18224493
Think tinder meets feminsim.
Yes, it's exactly as bad as it sounds.

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Girls, I'm 168cm. How fucked am I?

No matter how hard I try I'm treated like I'm disposable and it seems like I'm overlooked a lot.

>>18224498
I wish I could even get to the "disposable" level rather than the "nonexistant" level.

>>18224498
>measuring the height of a human in centimeters
why the fuck do yuropoors do this?

>>18224508
Because there's only 3 other countries in the whole world that do it otherwise :^)

>>18224498
Some manlets get laid, others dont. I'm not gonna lie to you, it is a handicap. But it's not one that can't be overcome. The weeknd is a chubby 5'6 brown guy. But because he can sing and has money tons of girls want to sleep with him. For a less extreme example, just look around at all the short guys who are still in the gene pool. If no women fucked manlets you wouldn't exist.

The main problem girls have with short guys is how they have a complex about it. Several girls have said that verbatim. It's like Devil's Snare in the first Harry Potter, it only hurts you if you worry about it.

>>18224512
It just makes no sense. Meters I could see, but using small increments like that? That's like an adult listing their age in months or weeks.

>>18224508
Man I'm even american and I agree our measuring system is retarded.

>>18224498
I literally wouldn't give a fuck if I liked the rest of you.

>>18224517
>not knowing how metric works

168 cm is literally 1.68 meters. Math is hard. Stop acting stupid.

>>18224517
It's not that difficult to convert centimetres to metres because the metric system makes sense.

>>18224498
I'm something like 152cm. I don't care.

>>18224527
>Reasons why the metric system is superior in every way
lmao.

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I want to meet cute girls or guys cuse I haven't actually been in a relationship in forever, but I think the effort to tinder or bumble is just way too much. Anyone else in that kind of problem? University is kinda weirdly shitty for meeting people and kinda forces me to be antisocial to get decent grades

>>18224527
>>18224528
And anyone with a middle school education can grasp multiples of 12, but if a grown man said "I'm 396 months old" you'd still think he was a weirdo.

>>18224508
I'm in Canada

>>18224514
Alright guess I've just gotta become a celebrity or superman. I don't have a complex about it, and I'm not a virgin, but pictures like the one in my last post really make me feel worthless. On a side note, my first girlfriend enjoyed the fact I was 'smol' and it's demasculating. It's like the only property girls recognise or react to is my height.

>>18224525
I have a feeling if I were in a group chatting at a bar you'd tend to disregard me in shadow of a taller guy. On Tinder, I am not treated seriously. I'll make plans with a girl and they'll forget about it or just stop messaging me when we plan to meet. It's seemingly small things like this that build up and make me feel insecure at times. Though I don't let it get in the way.

>>18224555
But an infant can move a decimal over. At a glance. So why didn't you?

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>>18224557
>

>>18224551
Dating is a numbers game. You won't have any chemistry with more people than you'll have good chemistry, and there's a lot of room in the middle if you're willing to compromise a little. The trick is just keep meeting people however you can. You're going to find a lot of "stereotypical" people depending on your method (lot of party girls going to bars, lot of weird shut-in types on dating apps) but there's also a lot of, for lack of a better word, normal women everywhere. The trick is finding them.

How old is too old for a first kiss?[spoiler]How do I not fuck up?[/spoiler]

>>18224413
Hmmm.... I knew a assistant GM at Sams Club who drove an old beat-down car. I'm sure he could easily afford the payments for a better car.

>>18224614
I wouldn't be surprised if someone who worked retail drove an old car like that. I'm talking someone like the guys here who talk big about how they're earning 300k or whatever. Or even guys who are earning a more modest, but not retail-wage amount. It just makes me wonder why you haven't upgraded and makes me wonder if you're a bit of a tight-ass

>>18224612
Just don't push your whole skull into the other person, and try to relax your face.

>>18224612
Be confident, kiss her first, then tell her it was your first when you get a slow minute. Either you'll be good at it and she'll be impressed you're new, or it'll explain your lack of skill and she won't begrudge you for it if she knows it's your first time. Probably try and give you some pointers if you're really bad at it. If she likes you and you're honest, she'd rather make you do it right than ditch you for doing it at all.

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>>18224605
ugh yeah that's what I figured. I have a fantstic blend of not wanting to put in loads of initial effort/ having hobbies and interests that can intimidate girls and being pretty fucking socially retarded. What are some solid ways to break the ice folks, would love suggestions

>>18224678
What kind of hobbies are those? Intimidating girls with hobbies is a new one for me

>>18224678
All you can do is be genuinely you and see if the woman responds. If you're not being genuine, it makes trying to form a relationship that much more difficult for having to pretend to be someone else, and if she doesn't respond to you being genuine, it wasn't meant to be in the first place.

Trust me, you really just have to keep throwing yourself out there till you find a girl who sticks around.

does tinder even show profiles of people who don't have pics?

guess I'll have to take some...

>>18224694
Why would you think it's okay to not have pictures on Tinder?

>>18224694
also... do most women even care about profiles that like them, but don't have pics?

I only wrote "I'm tall, slim and not ugly. trust me". is that too dumb? also... I'm 31. will I sound stupid if I write that I'm not posting pics because I'm shy?

>>18224689
I live in a place full of truck culture, its hard to explain. But I'm very much into fashion and fine arts. I've been straight up told it's intimidating by some of my female friends for the guy to be always dressed not only well but better than them

>>18224701
>I only wrote "I'm tall, slim and not ugly. trust me"
I don't use Tinder, but I wouldn't waste my time with a guy who said that.

>will I sound stupid if I write that I'm not posting pics because I'm shy?
I don't think I'd even bother reading your bio if you didn't have pictures

>>18224692
Fair enough, and you're right. There's no reason to be disheartened all in all

>>18224695
>>18224705
ok, guess I'll take a few pics, then.

>I don't use Tinder, but I wouldn't waste my time with a guy who said that.
what's wrong with that?

thanks for answering


another Q: how do you ask women if she likes you in a subtle way? or, should I simply not ask and invite her out or something?

>>18224712
>what's wrong with that?
Because it's not that hard to post a photo and saying shit like that would make me think the opposite is true. Even fake accounts go to the effort of finding photos too, I'd also be suspicious that you were some kind of scammer

>>18224712
>another Q: how do you ask women if she likes you in a subtle way? or, should I simply not ask and invite her out or something?
The latter. This is in the FAQ

>>18224662
I can vouch for this. I'm 23 and went for my first kiss with a girl. She said it was a 0/10 first try lol. So then I said show me then since you are so experienced. She hopped on top of me and she went to town and I was fine after that.

>>18224694
>Tinder profile with no pics
Are you a retard?

>>18224751
I'd prefer something more anonymous, but, afaiu, it exists, but it's not as massive as tinder

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>>18223656
Femanon, please answer my question.

I meet girls, flirt with them quite well and we hit it off. We have sex and I never get another call or text. Talking in person becomes tedious.

Is it me, is the sex that bad, is this the norm now?

How do I change this. I just want a relationship in which I can do some really sexually crazy sit to someone special

>>18224864
Stop being so easy and have more to offer than just your looks

>inb4 I'm an interesting person
If you were, then you wouldn't be having this problem.

one for the ladies.
wheres a place you would like to go on a first date?

>>18224945
Peep show

>>18224983
and just what is that?

>>18224987
Look it up.

>>18224993
are you saying you would want to watch a tv show as a first date?

>>18224879
How do I accomplish this? I have multiple degrees, in the armed force's and a Leo on top of it... how am I not interesting. .. your right
>inb4 I'm interesting

I guess I'll endeavour to be better.

>>18224996
Oh sweetie, you're so innocent. Keep looking.

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"Do you still like me?"
"I'm having a panic attack"
"My anxiety is killing me"
All this just before she gets on a flight across the country. Then she doesn't text for two days and she's with some guy on snapchat.

Be honest, am I overthinking this?

>>18225009
ohhh, would you say this is something many ladies are into?

>>18225015
>she doesn't text for two days
did you text her?

>>18224694
literally nobody is going to like a profile with no pics.

>>18224701
>do most women even care about profiles that like them, but don't have pics?
that's not how tinder works.

>>18224498
literally nobody cares about your height unless you're like 150, and even then it doesn't matter that much.

>>18225020
Only the fun ones, if you know what I mean

>>18224449
sounds like you're just talking people's ears off about a subject they don't care about. it being tech or anything else doesn't matter.

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Question for men:

How do I stop caring about sex? I'm horny 24/7 and I think about lewd things all the time and my self esteem is extremely dependent on whether my boyfriend role-plays someone who thinks I'm fairly acceptable and thinks about raping me.

This is clearly a problem because it's digging into my everyday life. I look at hot girls and catcall them from where they can't see/hear me and then I feel shitty because I'm literally just projecting what I want to happen to me.

My boyfriend does not have a high libido so I can understand why it's annoying for him if he needs to tell me every couple of hours "your ass has adequate power to give me a boner" whether it's true or not

I just want to take a magical pill that makes me not care about sex.
Also if it matters, I am ugly and autistic.

>>18225027
No, but I texted last if that counts

I'm trying to hide my clingy powerlevel

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Girl wants to come over my place. I have a feeling that it is just an insane joke, we had lots, lots of texting, she writes me all the time, she asked if I'd be worried since I revealed I am KV, saying to act gradually, taking it slow then. What I feel that she will cancel it the last second, and at the current moment she must have shown our texts to everyone and had a great, great laugh. I am paranoid.

Am I overthinking? Is it a possible situation?

>>18224449
Depends on what bits you're talking about. If I'm talking to someone about the minutia of a project yeah odds are they'll lose interest quickly. It's hardly surprising, they know shit about it so yeah they can't relate. Instead I focus on stuff more like the social aspects where yeah, they can actually relate to a coworker fucking your life up because they're procrastinating.

>>18224458
>I assume guys who aren't into it would think it's very odd for a girl, because of the mistaken belief that there are only male nerds.
It's a pretty decent rule of thumb. My field is 93% male last I checked.

>>18225091
I'm laughing at you, so she probably is as well

>>18225110
I don't understand.

>>18225056
Are you a woman?

>>18225056
pls respond I need help

>>18225114
People with too much free time like to goad others insecurities. Just go with the flow, you havent actually mentioned anything that indicates she's changing her mind. Just that you're paranoid she is.

>>18225120
I just asked you a question

>>18223609

Are you talking to them for more than a week? Are they sober or at least not honest-drunk the whole time? Are you talking to them on a university campus with thought police around every corner?

>>18223629

Started off as morbid curiosity about early /b/ and I just kind of stayed, hiding my vag. Sometimes the mood strikes and I like to trigger the "men" of 4chan.

>>18223716

That's because we also stay inside and shitpost on Mongolian basketweaving imageboards.

>>18223741

You're doing something horribly wrong and you need to pay attention to what you do in the hour before they g o off on you.

Also you kind of look like a rapist.

>>18225119
>>18225149
Internet decided to be gay, I didn't see your response

I am biologically female

Are there such things as libido suppressing supplements or something

>>18224202
>>18223772

It's not even deciding. Vag just instantly stops juicing itself and then it's uncomfortable to be wet, on a physical level.

But the replying anon is correct that her reaction was out of sheer spite. Girls who pretend to be bi for male attention are trash, anywyay. Makes life hard for the rest of us.

t. actual bisexual

>>18224721

How did you try and kiss her?

>>18223835

Mixed-gender friend groups are the best a girl can hope for. For some reason groups of all girls go nuclear. I've seen it at my early low-end/high-turnover jobs a lot. All guys is god-tier, mixed-gender is usually good as long as it doesn't split from sex drama, and all girl is Mean Girls on crack.

>>18223836

Too many factors to give a definitive answer for all girls but for my socially awkward ass, 80% of the time I'm just spacing out in your general direction.

>>18225166
Try masturbating, or are you doing it already? To be honest I don't know much about female physiology, but maybe working out will help too?

>>18225169
For me as a guy a bi woman is a red flag. If I'm dating them that is. It's not healthy for a person to be so sexual. My dream woman is straight and wants sex once a week. Many guys might have a fantasy of a sexually active bi woman, so they can have threesomes, but I don't think a woman should be so sexual and threesomes will ruin a good relationship.

so i am a femanon and i have an aqutaince who likes fashion. is suddenly messaging out of the blue asking her if she is following the trend of wearing these metal accessories weird? i dont want her to think that i want to buy her a present or anything lol

>>18225240
Why are you asking her?

If you want her advice on fashion that's not weird at all. If you want to know which ones she wears so you can buy them for your realdoll that looks like her that's weird.

>>18225240
Fuck, femanon. Don't be weird. Just mention the fact that "you're into fashion right? what do you think about the trend of wearing these metal accessories?" C'mon, anons... Just be normal.

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my dog is 7 years old and im starting to worry about him dying everyday how i do i make him live forever?

guys: can above average looking girls be "hot" or "cute" to you?

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Girls,

Would you date an alien from another star system? Asking for a friend.

>>18225343
Do you mean below average? If above average, your question doesn't make sense to me. So I will answer, if they were below average looking...

If you get to know them and they are confident and funny, then they can be hot or at least cute and beautiful. But usually below average girls are insecure. With insecure girls I feel insecure. It's not good.

>>18225357
i mean there is still a difference between an above average girl and a model-tier girl

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>>18225353
Depends, does he look like pic related?

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>>18223584
Girls, how bad is it if the guy you're really interested in from the get-go leads you on and just wants to be your friend? At what point do you think it's best to bring it up?

>>18225358
Yes, 6/10, 7/10, 8/10 girls can be hot and cute. It's how they act. For me, girls who don't joke around are not so hot. Humor can be so attractive. Good humor that is. If it's only fart jokes, then it's unattractive to me. I've met those too.

You just need to bee yourself and have fun with what you're given. Have a positive outlook on life even if you're a cynic and pessimistic about it as a whole, like me.

So for me, even 4/10 girls can become quite attractive if they are having fun and are confident enough, and smart. Not like phd smart, but have some interest to learn things.

>>18225363
so what makes a girl a "catch". by your definition any girl with "humor" can be a catch

>>18225359
No, he has a much leaner build, but is fun to hangout with. He has some interest talking to homo sapiens females, but is a bit insecure about his big feminine eyes. He works at a Dyson Sphere facility part time, and likes travel, at lightspeed.

>>18225374
The humor part is just proof that they have a positive attitude. Positivity, confidence, smiling, interesting hobbies and lifestyle... These are attractive qualities in a girl too.

Girls, I am torturing myself over a situation with my female close friend
>met a year ago and instantly talked to each other all day every day (forced to live together but still)
>she doesn't mention she has a bf until about a month)
>they break up and go on/off shortly after
>think I'm friendzoned since she texts love you, as a friend, and talks about other guys and stuff
>wasn't bothered at that point since I valued her as a friend and wasn't that into her
>get closer and closer
>she asks me to get an apartment with her
>I joke about having a crush on this other girl where we lived and she'd always say 'aren't I good enough for you?' and things
>we kissed once and then a few days later she said 'when are you going to take me out on a date' and I laughed it off and she sounded sad
>gradually stops flirting since then to the point where she won't even sit next to me (still love talking to each other, I mean she would sit on a different chair etc)
>we both move to separate places but still talk to each other all the time and spend one on one time
>a few days ago I asked her if she considered a relationship with me
>she replied 'just a friend'
>had a bitter argument
>not close anymore, talked on the phone a couple of times and the spark isn't there at all

Was she into me? How badly did I fuck this up?

>>18225381
you still havent answered the catch part yet

>>18225389
I did answer that.
What makes a girl a catch:
>Positivity, confidence, smiling, interesting hobbies and lifestyle...

>>18225386
Just don't give a fuck about things you don't understand. Not that I have any idea on that situation either. Let the dust settle, don't think about it.

>>18225397
ok. but arent these things "subjective"? by your definition, a large number of girls qualify for modelling or whatever

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>>18225376
>leaner build
>big feminine eyes

So he looks like this?

>>18225425
Yes, that's eerily similar looking.

>>18225401
I don't want to date a model, to be quite honest with you.

>>18225360
Someone only wanting to be a friend isn't a bad thing. It's just a thing.

>>18225386
It sounds like she was into you and you missed your shot. Oh well.

>>18225455
People are usually hurt by it though.

>>18224423
Tumblr isn't a school, it isn't a responsible parent, it isn't a guidance counselor, it isn't a knowledgeable grandparent. It's just a cesspool for escapism. Don't fall for trends, eventually the stupid shit people do today, they will look back at in shame like some bad hairstyle from the 80's.

>>18225343
what the fuck kind of question is that

>>18225566
Sure, and that sucks. But liking someone and them not liking you isn't bad. It's important to be able to handle rejection.

It isn't bad when you aren't into someone, so it follows that it shouldn't be bad when someone isn't into you. It's just not what you wanted. The difference is important.

Ladies, what do you think of a guy who has long hair, shoulder length?

What does it mean when they say "thank you, anon"
Instead of just "thank you"?

Is there even a difference? Does it matter?

>>18225176
We were laying on my bed and I went in and went for an over complicated kiss instead of just a peck on the lips.

>>18224998
I mean sure you have a few degrees and in the military and all. But that doesn't make you interesting... Do you actually do anything interesting?

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What are some women's thoughts on waifus?

Did he break my collarbone??
Yesterday morning we were fucking and he pressed my collar bones really hard.
only one side still hurts