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I'm a 33 year old male. I've never had a girlfriend.

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I'm a 33 year old male. I've never had a girlfriend. I'm not fat, I don't *think* I'm ugly but by this point I have no idea. I'm quite shy, in fact I'm being treated with CBT for anxiety. Yet I go onto mental health forums and other people - people who seem quite genuinely nuts - all have exes or current girlfriends. People are saying they feel "used" because they had sex with someone who didn't get back to them.

I socialise most weeks, I go to parties, pubs, days out with friends. I've tried dating apps. Nothing works. I just seem to be magically unattractive. I don't start moaning, I don't emo it up. I either pretend I'm okay or actually feel quite optimistic and happy.

What the fuck am I doing wrong? I mean, I'm not getting anything at all from women. Girlfriends or wives of my friends all say "OMG Anon, why have you never had a girlfriend?" as if it's totally confusing to them, yet they must feel the same way as all the other girls who don't find me attractive. Sorry for wall of text.
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I'm assuming you're virgin.

Save some money, hire a nice girl to take your virginity. Not a high class expensive person. Really look for some on their 30s around your own age.

It will be cheaper, relaxed and if you do it often, she'll start dating you. Forget what haters on this board will say, just do it.

You will see how good it is to have pleasure with a woman rather than just yourself. How kind they can be, and also the kind of problems they will drag you into. I am speaking about paying one because it is the easiest non-failing route. Also, stop masturbating today. I know its fun, right now you are on a mission and non-fap helps to build up the natural urge to grab a woman (which you heavily need right now).

Even of it doesn't work out, don't worry as it gives you insight about their world and you'll get increasingly better.
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>>18223191
Funny you should say that. When I was about 23 I went to a whore. I was so scared I couldn't get a boner and it fucked me up even more. When I was 26 or so, I had this little fling with my friend's girlfriend as their relationship crumbled. We had "sex" 4 times but I either didn't cum even though I had a boner, or couldn't get one, or lost it. Then a year or two after that I hired another whore and while I did cum, I only had a semi, and she just lay their like a board and was generally kind of rude and shitty throughout. So those events made me less secure.

I've had a number of girls be attracted to me, but it always ends up with it kind of petering out. Like, they just go off me for no apparent reason. Even very recently, I really pushed myself and went on a date with a girl.

First date, got along very well, kissed at the end. 2nd date I was more awkward but we kissed at the end. Third date, kind of middling, kissed several times. Then she ignored my texts before finally saying "You're really nice but no spark". That kind of sums up my "sex" life.
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>>18223100
Here we already have thread made for you.

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>>18223222
You are an autist. A functional autist, but still one. This means you have difficulty in picking up emotional clues fast enough.

I've been there (even same bad experience), will help you.

First of all: don't fap.

You can do it for fun but if you are preparing to date a girl, you yourself need to be horny and focused on grabbing that girl as soon as possible, like a wolf if a bad comparison is possible.

Second: don't talk.

You're talking too much with them. Try listening and smile a lot. Women are not so interested in you (you're no rockstar), they are interested on themselves so make them talk a lot and just listen.

Third: start touching

Littles kisses are OK. What really starts the party are your hands over her body. If you didn't fapped, your biological instincts kick in and you'll be all over here her body and pushing the right buttons.

There you go. Don't over analyze. Do these three steps without excuses. You can thank me later.
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>>18223474
I've done all that. I'm not an autist, it's kind of the opposite. I'm too senstitive to their expressions and other feedback, rather than being oblivious to it. And as I said somewhere else in the thread, I just have a deep rooted insecurity that it's never okay for me to act sexually towards someone. They can say they think I'm hot but it still feels wrong to even put my arm around them.

I might have said, but I went on three dates. I was very tactile, made her laugh, she had this really horny look in her eyes towards the end of the first one, licking her lips subtly while looking at mine. We kissed on the first date, then 2nd then more on the 3rd. Then I got a text after taht saying there's no spark. This has happened dozens of times in some form in my life so far. Even if i am giving out some bad signals, you'd think ONE GIRL in 33 fucking years would bear with it for a bit.
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>>18223474
>>You're talking too much with them. Try listening and smile a lot. Women are not so interested in you (you're no rockstar), they are interested on themselves so make them talk a lot and just listen.
And on that note, what exactly do I ask? I genuinely don't really care, not in a callous way but I just don't care what a current stranger thinks about anything. I always go with films, music, TV, etc. I think I basically friendzone myself. I can't imagine bringing in sexual things, I'd feel like a creep.
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>>18223100
> "OMG Anon, why have you never had a girlfriend?"

Tell them:"Too many lesbians!"

Trust me they'll stop bothering you.
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>>18224115
Just print what I have written before and follow those instructions.

The trick to ask questions is to followup in whatever they want to talk.

For example, she says: "I had a really hard week with the math exam" and you say "can really imagine. Who is your teacher?"

She talks a bit more and you ask "are his exams always this hard?"

You see, no need to care but keep doing a few exploratory questions. At some point you will see it is enough, then smile and she will bring another topic to the table.

Don't do movies nor other events where you can't have some interaction. The reason why you are alone is because they perceive you as "selfish" and only thinking on stuff YOU want to do. Most women usually want men to give them super attention, so do things where she has the spotlight.

If you feel like a creep, that's because you are fapping. If you didn't fap before your date, you'd be all over your partner and she would love the attention. Trust me on that one.
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>>18224110
You're really slow in picking up emotional clues and reacting properly. Austism isn't just those rock-dumb kids. Are also the overthinkers that can't see the big picture.

When a girl says "you're hot" you should take dominance and say "come here, sit closer to me" and then surprise them by asking them to close the eyes while you move your fingers over her face.

You don't need to pass your arm, it is not a wedding invitation. It is an invitation for you to be a bit more bold. You see, women prefer that men take the initiative and it this works great for them not to make asses out of themselves.

When she messaged you saying there is no spark, you needed to prove her wrong. Should have went to her house and see her in person. Do a makeout session in her room and I can guarantee that you would score.

You are actually thinking that women write what they mean in a logical manner and that they don't change their minds. You need to understand that they were made to be historically, culturally, physically and psychologically dominated by men.

Doesn't mean you need to be a caveman but when you don't take some charge, very often they don't feel attraction.
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