ITT: Ask the opposite gender anything

Girls

Is it better to bide your time with girls you want to date eventually, firstly becoming friends or would you say I would be more successful if I show romantic interest early?

Also, I feel like I have super high standards and I'm not sure how much of a negative factor this is, am I shallow for going for only girls I feel are pretty or do I subconsciously go for girls who I feel are around my level of aesthetics? Yeah stupid question I know but it's messing with my mind right now.

>>18198030
If you want a relationship, show romantic interest but also willingness to take things slow and get to know each other before getting sexual.
If someone treats me like a friend, I treat them like a friend - I see my friends two or three times a month to have a beer and that's it.
If someone flirts with me, talks to me often, is kind to me while getting to know me I'm more willing to take things further.

SEX QUESTIONS

Backstory: met a girl and ended up having sex with her.

She legitimately just laid there and was kinda like.. just there.

I guess that didn't really help me get turned on.

She's super blunt and was saying how I have a great cock size (8 inches , 6.75 inches circumference) but that I suck at having sex.

I told her about how she basically just lay there.

She said she didn't enjoy how I was moving her whole body.


I've never been called bad at sex.

Is it possible that I am bad at sex or do you guys think she just wasn't trying hard enough?

That's how it felt to me.

>>18198035
Yeah that makes sense, I've barely spoken with the girl I'm after maybe there's still hope for me..

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Why do women pretend to not like muscular lean guys? When you ask, they're like *lol naw not sexxy lol xd*, but when they see someone irl they lose their shit. Like wtf is this bullshit. Why are you afraid to admit that you find it hot?

We men don't walk around pretending like we don't find boobs hot.

>>18198052
Some girls like muscles, some girls don't.
I honestly am not particularly into big, ripped dudes and I think abs are gross to look at.
I prefer either a slim, athletic guy ("ottermode") or the classic "I did sports in college" kind of body - slightly chubby with broad shoulders and nice arms.

>>18198037

Was she fat?

for girls

how much does it matter how a guy dresses? also general preferences in terms of clothing would be helpful

>>18198037
It's possible that you're bad at sex. She DEFINITELY is bad at sex, though, so don't take it too hard.

Did you give her ample foreplay, was she actually wet when you entered? Porn gives many guys a skewed idea of how much play women (can) need to be ready for penetration. Fifteen to twenty minutes of foreplay is pretty normal especially for a new partner you're not in love with.

I don't quite understand what "how I was moving her whole body" is supposed to mean, though. Do you?

>>18198106
>how much does it matter how a guy dresses? also general preferences in terms of clothing would be helpful
Quite a bit, and it matters more and more as I age.
In general, make sure your clothes fit you well, aren't worn out, are clean and that each piece matches the other.
If you're not sure about what you're doing, keep it simple: a nice pair of sneakers, a jeans that fits you well and a monochromatic t-shirt fits most guys and works well.
Make sure you're dressing appropriate for your age - a 40 year old in bermuda and a graphic t-shirt makes me cringe very hard, a 18 year old in a suit makes me cringe as well.

I have a problem with shoes. I absolutely hate men who wear running shoes when they're not running or open shoes (sandals, flip flops) when we aren't at the beach. I hate loafers and... huh. Those super long dress shoes that are evidently cheap.

>>18198052
Many men tend to get angry when a woman admits that she likes muscular or even just tall men. They're very quick to tell you that you're an ugly pig and that you should only go after less attractive men. It's better to just lie to them.

>>18198030
I agree with the other comment. Don't treat her "platonically" - tease her, flirt with her a bit, don't present yourself as a shoulder to cry on. But show that you are willing to let things run its course and not expecting her to spread at date #1 or #3 or whatever. These things grow organically.

Once again though, if you treat a girl 100% like you want to be her friend, don't be surprised if you end up being her friend. You need to not JUST be friendly and respectful, there also needs to be a spark, a bit of banter, a willingness to fuck with her and get her riled up. Unwillingness to be her servant and do her favors all the time.

Everyone goes for people they "feel are pretty". Only worry if that means you aren't attracted whatsoever to nine out of ten girls you see or something.

>>18198052
I'm a bit of a chubby chaser. I like muscular men as long as they have the bodyfat to still be gropable. If they are so lean I cannot hold on to anything, no thanks. Whether in real life or online. We do exist.

Aside from that, second poster is partly right. Men (especially on sites like these) can be very quick to jump to women being shallow, entitled etc. So the women who actually have a preference for "normal" guys will feel more free to speak out on that.

I also feel that there's plenty of women who legitimately don't like the idea (or even look) of a muscular body until they experience it. This is no different from men, you cannot logically analyze exactly what you find attractive or not until you've experienced it in real life, you can be surprised by what turns you on in the heat of the moment.

Having said that, simply looking at how many male celebrities considered hot aren't ripped already shows that women as a whole don't care about muscles the way men care about curves.

>>18198134
I can kind of spot your posts because of the way you write.
Just wanted to let you know that you seem very clever, polite and kind. And that you give really good advice.
You helped me a couple of times, and it's always a pleasure to read your posts even when you reply to others.

>>18198118
this is helpful. so shoes are generally important? I've had female friends who've said things like they really appreciate it when a man knows how to choose the right shoe and generally look at guy's shoes a lot

gf of nearly two years broke up with me a few weeks ago, we rarely talked ever since and i broke down and spilled my feelings a few days ago and avoided her ever since, today she sent me a message asking how i am, any advice?

>>18198141
Thank you, sincerely, you just made my day.

>>18198150

Reply "I'm fine" and then stop bothering her. She dumped you. It's over. Time to move on and stop dumping your emotional garbage on her.

>>18198150
How did she respond when you spilled your feelings (if at all)?

>>18198145
Yes, kind of. I always look at a man's shoes. It's a detail but it says a lot about someone's taste and the effort they put into dressing.
Most sneakers are fine. I prefer things that are very simple looking and classic, but that's because I generally date 25+ so if you have a super bright pair of sneakers you look a bit age inappropriate.
Other than that, shoes like desert boots, or some Chelsea boots, or brogue shoes are fine.

>>18198126
shiiiit i fucked uuuuupppp

>>18198150
Don't reply or >>18198157, except 'i'm fine' sounds cucked (passive agressive).

>>18198171
Live and learn, my friend.

For the future: girls don't get stimulated the way guys do to comprehend what they find attractive in others (especially beyond the more obvious things like physical features), what kind of man they feel would be a good partner for them. Especially girls who are pretty and popular growing up and often get by just focusing on the guys who pay them attention, and never taking agency and realizing the full scope of what -they- like to see in someone, how they like to be treated. For guys this is a necessity because their hormones are more pressing and they are more encouraged to take the active role socially.. so they grow up much more in touch with what they like to see in a woman, and simply being female is often enough to make them (however briefly) consider a girl as a potential partner. Whereas cute girls are busy navigating the attention they get (or even just the interest they sense) and are not supposed to like as many (kinds of) men as possible because they are supposedly more conservative.

So if you are interested in a girl you often need to nudge her a bit into realizing you could date, you're a man she could have a romantic dynamic with. This applies all the more depending on how young she is and how much interest she already receives (making her more passive). This is essentially what flirting is: you covertly tell her, I notice you in a sexual way, I like what I see. It gives her a chance to look at you with different eyes, make up her own mind about you. Teasing and goofing around with her is like a preview of how you might treat her in bed. That you aren't just polite or kind but can be naughty, exciting, frustrating - someone who evokes real feeling in her.
It's not always necessary, some girls are more hands on or more in tune with all this, but it's very useful to know and practice. Don't wait for her to spontaneously notice you, remind her of what could be.

Femanons, have you ever felt that one of your friends was actually a bad influence for you, especially for your relationship with a boyfriend you'd want to go longterm with?

>>18198193
No.
I have friends who could be considered a "bad influence" because dislike my boyfriend, or boys in general, or because they just have a slutty lifestyle. But I am my own person and I still live my own life whatever they do.

>>18198157
>>18198160
>>18198175
she avoided giving me any answers, before we broke up she was a geniunely emotional and compassionate person, i dont think its farfetched that she wants us to get back together, but if this is about her feeling lonely and just needing a disposable emotional napkin, i am going to shut it the fuck down.

>>18198193
No, because I choose my friends in part for being mature, respectful people. Sometimes women can confuse urging their friend to be hyper"assertive" with building her up... and I feel that sometimes it's a way for them to act out on their own private disappointments and frustrations. Eg they feel passed over by a guy, then the next best thing to being treated the way they want to be treated is to fire up their friend to not take any shit (they wished they did not take themselves).

But part of being a friend is respecting your friend's judgment and respecting the bonds important to your friend even if you would never want to trade places. I don't like every single boyfriend that any of my friends had, and if asked I will carefully weigh in, but I'm not going to split hairs over bickering and I'm not going to spontaneously let it be known that I'm not a fan of someone unless he is straight up cheating on or hitting her. Also because I have seen some of my friends date guys who were not great on paper but made them happy. If they are legitimately happy then saying anything to undermine that is presumptuous and crossing boundaries.

And my friends would know better than to talk shit about someone I love. I would be done with that real quick.

But I am also in my mid twenties and like for most people, it has been a learning process for me how to tell when a friend is a better or worse influence. This is something you can often only see in hindsight, when it's happening there's so many things going on that it doesn't show a clear picture. Like with many relationships, people are reasonably happy until they break up, then suddenly their ex is the devil. That's also (partly) because looking back they see patterns they did not see while they were living the full reality. This isn't an insight you can push on anyone not ready to see it, you can only offer your point of view in a sensible way.

>>18198203
>I don't like every single boyfriend
Not sure if I phrased this right, obviously I meant I was not a fan of literally every single one, not that there were none I thought were great.

>>18198199
I don't understand your tone here. Remember that you are actually the one who vented to her about your feelings when you felt bad/lonely. I'm not saying you should be thrilled if she would be feeling lonely and seeking consolation but I don't see any indication that that's the case.

It sounds to me like she was not willing to get involved in your emotional stuff while you were in the midst of it, but does want to check up on you and make sure you're okay. Not like she is hoping to get back together or use you as "a disposable emotional napkin".

Just tell her you're better, thanks. If I were you I would no go into it more than that and not reply to anything else. Don't apologize or explain yourself, she will understand.

>>18198186
the girl i fucked up with asked me if i had any experience after i asked her out and practically told me everything you mentioned, also added to acquire more experience

thank you very much

Ladies

What do you think of an otherwise fit guy who has gynecomastia?

>>18198199
I don't think you should be getting back together or having anything to do with each other at all. What for? Just bullshit...

>>18198218
Shit sucks but that's honestly the best case scenario for a rejection. No problem at all, have fun acquiring experience.

>>18198219
Whether it's gynecomastia or that slightly indented chest or loose skin or stretch marks - it's not an attractive feature by itself. But no one is going to judge you on any isolated bodypart. You are a package deal, there exists no version of you that offers exactly everything you can offer as an individual but also has a perfect chest. Don't for a moment think that other people's bodies don't have weird details, by the way. You just happen to not know theirs, just like many people know you without knowing this specific detail about you.

So I think nothing of it, because it's not enough to go by. And for the record, just judging by the google image results this is something that would take me some time to even catch on to.

>>18198214
>>18198222
thats pretty much what i thought about doing my self, though i appreciate your thoughts guys.

>>18198030
That's a hard question because sometimes if you become friends with a girl first, and you spend more time together you both start to realise how much you like each other and it blossoms into this romance.
But sometimes if you are friends with a girl, they might mistake it for that you aren't interested in them and will be too shy to tell you that they are interested in you...
So maybe a safe bet is to try make your feelings/intentions clear early on.

But if it's meant to be, it will happen!

Honestly I don't think personally there is anything wrong with having preferences.
You like who you like.
Apparently we subconsciously try find partners that are similar to our parents in terms of looks or something, or partners that look more like us, because better procreation. So maybe your mom is hot and you are going for girls that look like your mom lol? Or, you are going for girls who look similar to you, so you will create potentially more attractive offspring lol
Don't worry about it too much.

Only worry if you start rejecting every girl because they aren't hot enough and you find yourself very alone or something

>>18198037
It's hard to say, I guess I would need more info?
Both things are possibilities, but honestly I wouldn't worry too much unless shes like your gf or something.
Maybe ask the next girl you sleep with for some honest comments.
if she was just laying there maybe she doesn't enjoy sex herself. i dunno sounds pretty weird to me


>>18198106
Depends on the girl.
But for me, as long as they dress clean, quite plain and nothing too crazy that's good.
I don't care about being too fashionable or anything.
Invest in just a good quality pair of jeans and some plain t-shirts. And then some chinos and some nice button down shirts or whatever
Tbh classic look always looks clean, smart and attractive!
But obviously dress how you want to dress!

>>18198193
No sorry I don't have close friends

>>18198219
Well I know what that condition is, so I know its genetic and not something you can help having. So I understand that you just got unlucky and the only way it can be fixed is by surgery which is a big deal obviously.

But I know some girls might not be as informed and might be a bit shallow and mean about it
I donno

Girls, do you expect your man to confront someone that teases you on the road when you're out together?

I live in a very illiterate neighborhood, and this happens way too often with girls. Happened with me and my girlfriend a few times where the fucker just disappeared afterwards. Pisses me the fuck off. But then again, I can't do anything about it unless they're there. Like today, we were walking on the street and someone cycled past us 100 feet away and whistled at us. It pissed me off immensely, but I didn't think running after the shithead was a good idea either, so I just let it go. And to be honest, although I get pissed, when something happens, it startles me for a second and before I even assess the situation, they take off and I can't do anything about it.

Do you think I'm handling it right from her perspective?

>>18198282
Ask her, tell her you want to support her in the way that she wants to be supported by you.

Personally this is a bit of a stab in the dark because where I live cat calling isn't a big thing, but I would rather my boyfriend do nothing than that he risked getting involved in some fight for doing "the right thing".

Of course it's good to let her AND them know you have her back. But there's a middle road between not doing anything and running after them. Try to make light out of the situation. Act like you think they are trying to come onto you instead of her. Or give a cheeky "thanks, she's great isn't she" like you're oblivious to the disrespect. (Depending on the kind of guy we're talking about.)

From the instances in which I did get harassed a bit my experience is that humor can de-escalate a situation very effectively. Especially if you do it with such heart that you make it difficult for them to go against you without seeming butthurt and unable to take a joke.

>>18198253
Well I'm not rejecting every girl, and thinking about it I do find quite a few girls attractive, I just feel like I've got no chance with them because I find a lot of them so pretty which is probably just a self confidence thing. I think everything went downhill after high school I find myself just being a 'nice guy' now whereas i used to be a flirtatious dude a few years back.

>>18198291
You're never going to know whether other people find you attractive or if you have a chance with them unless you find out!!
So could be very well that some of these girls would date you or whatever if they got the chance, but you are just assuming you're not good enough for them.

But i feel you majorly, self confidence issues can be a bitch, and it varies too.

Girls and guys

Is getting a dog or a cat a good alternative to getting a girlfriend/wife?

>>18198329
They provide company and allow you to express affection and tenderness, to learn to take responsibility. If you like animals I think a pet is virtually never a bad idea.

But they are hardly an alternative. They won't challenge your views, won't accompany you to events, won't be a witness to your life the way a partner can.

>>18198329
well, will you fuck that dog?
will you have deep conversations with it?
will you be oblivious to the fact that it has a mentality of 3 year old and also that you must do everything for it, taking care of food and shit involved?

if your answers are at least 2 yes out of 3, then it's a perfect alternative

>>18198350

No I won't fuck an animal.

And actually, there is studies that animals probably understand what we say to them more than we think. Dogs and cats are very intelligent. So, theoretically it's possible your cat. May understand 60% of what you say. The only issue is they can't speak back, so we'll never fully know

Girls, do you wish you had moar holes for moar dicks, are you satisfied with how many you have or do you think you have too many holes?

>>18198356
if 60% of what I say was "I will to this simple activity now", then sure, a cat should be able to cope with it. The problem is you don't even need anybody to understand or respond to this. I can bet all my fingers that no cat understands questions like "do you think I should confront my friend over the way he treated me yesterday?

and this is what SOs are for.

(Also, you inferred way too much from that study, than you logically could, but that's another story)

>>18198329
Kind of. A cat is a good (better) alternative to a kid, but not really to a partner.
My cat has been with me for 15 years. She cuddles me, have conversations with me, doesn't cheat on me, doesn't bitch at me, doesn't spend all my money...

>>18198375

>this is what SO's are for

Well, isn't that what /adv/ is for as well? And other friends?

>>18198377

That's what I'm thinking. I already accept that I'm going to be alone. So, is thinking maybe it's best to just have a pet

>>18198383
Are you male or female? We could have a cat rescue center together.
I'm male.

>>18198369
Heh, it's an interesting question but I don't really question the way women were laid out. Eg in theory it would be handy for you to have two dicks (at least for double penetration) for sex, but I bet you don't feel sad you only have one because having two is weird as hell and having one feels right.

So, satisfied with the amount.

>>18198387

I'm a guy

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Guys, when you like a girl, do you always ask her out immediately? or have you held crushes for a long time without doing anything?

>>18198383
>isn't that what /adv/ is for as well? And other friends?
yes, of course, but to a lesser extent.
Friends don't always have the time for you, there are things you'll still not be comfortable enough to tell them, they may just change at some point, leaving you helpless. /adv/ is full of intelligent and caring people, but idiots as well. And it takes a lot of inteligence and a bit of luck to realize which answer comes from whom. With your SO you knowwhat are the results of their advives.

>>18198414
a lot of guys have crushes for years and don't tell her. why?

>>18198419

How can you have a crush and not act on it for years? Doesn't it make you feel like shit when you see her with other guys?

Girls

Best way to get about asking a girl out, for context we have class together, sit at same table speak a little bit. Do I literally just say hey I think you're pretty wanna get coffee sometime or should I work up to it with flirting or whatever?

>>18198414
watch a few of those threads and you will have your answer.
People mostly feel it takes some right preparation before trying to achieve something very big and important

>>18198428

What kind of preparation do you need?

>>18198424
>How can you have a crush and not act on it for years?
social anxiety, shyness, low self-esteem, crush already in a relationship, don't know if feeling are mutual, there's tons of reasons

>>18198433
>don't know if feeling are mutual

Do you really need to know if feelings are mutual before acting though?

>>18198432
for example right now I'm losing some weight to try my luck with one fantastic girl. I'll also wait for some right moments, not stressing things too much. If I didn't knew her yet, I'd engage in many casual conversations to learn what she (dis)likes (and if I am really interested in her).

Stuff like this. Getting over one's problems comes to mind as well

>>18198442

Aren't you afraid of losing her while preparing though? There are surely plenty of other guys after her, and she's not going to wait for you.

>>18198418

Well, I'll just have to have lots of friends then, I guess. And continue to trust /adv/

Tbh though, it's pretty easy to decipher whether an answer is bullshit or not on here. If people use logic when reading replies, you can generally tell when something fits or not

>>18198451
it's like fishing, you know. If you simply pull the rod, the line will break and fish will swim out of your reach. You must be patient and wait for the right set of circumstances or you'll be left with nothing.

Also, she's not seeing anyone right now, I'm nearly sure of it. And It's unlikely to change in a timeframe I want to work in. I may be wrong of course, but that's my problem

>>18198452
not necesserily. The greatest problem is that you can't provide enough context, so people always have to assume a lot. Thus even an intelligent, experienced person can give you a terrible idea assuming something obvious, but untrue. You won't be able to recognize that it's a wrong advice in such case

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Asking girls or anyone really;

So I met a girl through work and we've been chatting o facebook kind of getting to know each other type of thing. Her facebook says she has a boyfriend but there aren't any pictures of them together.
Anyway, I asked

"Do you live alone or with your bf?"

To which she replied

"With him, it's cheaper that way but makes it difficult at times, it's so expensive to live on your own around here"

What did she mean by this? Is this a green light for me?

>>18198474

I dunno, I've gotten a lot of good advice on here in the past. I've seen people give me shit advice, but just thinking about it, I can tell it wouldn't have worked

>>18198480
No, she has a boyfriend.
It just means that sometimes it sucks to cohabit with your partner.

>>18198485
But then she carries on being flirty and like, excited for me to come by her office again next week.
Why are girls such teasing whores?

>>18198489

Because women..


I remember there was the really hot girl I used to work with at a previous job. We would talk and joke all the time. When we'd pass each other in the hall she'd wink and smile at me, and there has been times where she has walked up behind me and poked my butt. So, after a few weeks of all of that stuff, I asked her out. Her reply was "oh! Haha, well... anon I have a boyfriend :P"

>>18198489
Do you know the difference between flirting and being friendly?

>>18198496
being friendly is flirting

>>18198499
For your sake, I hope you're joking. Heartbreak ahead.

>>18198499
this is how rape happens

>>18198503
no, that's how rejection happens

>>18198496

What do you consider this>>18198495

>>18198513
That girl, specifically, is an attention whore. What she was doing was very inappropriate, given that she was taken and you worked together.

>>18198489
Some people are naturally flirty.
Whenever I have to interact with someone I don't know well, I am overly friendly and I come off as flirty.
Usually I am like that with people I don't know well or with people I dislike. With people I actually like, I'm rude and mean as fuck.

>>18198524
girls need to just fuck off and learn how to communicate

>>18198506
unrelated

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>>18197997

Girls

how many guys you ended up convincing in going out that clearly had no interest in you?

> inb4 why would I ask out, let alone convince somebody to go out with me, if such person is not interested? Here's your answer, sweetie, you have no idea how tough it is to be a guy and that's one of the main reasons. You have no idea how many times guys and girls have told me "just keep trying". You have no idea how many times keep trying on the same girl worked like a champ. You have no idea what that's like.

I really think honesty and being open would make things easier for both sides and getting in our shoes once in a while would set girls in the right way

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I have a date with a girl I met online tonight. I'm scared and not feeling it.

How do I get out of it?

>>18198548
>how many guys you ended up convincing in going out that clearly had no interest in you?
Out of about 10, none. At that point, I only pursued people if they seemed interested.

>>18198549
>I'm scared and not feeling it.
Do you know why?

>How do I get out of it?
Contact her and cancel. But no matter what you say, she's going to feel bad.

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>>18197997
>talking to this girl
>all of a sudden she says she wants me to be straightforward with her
>like why im hitting her up etc
>says she likes when people are straightforward with her

What do /adv/?

>>18198549

"Hey I'm sorry, something came up"

I've done that at least a dozen times

>>18198559
I want put dick in vagina

>>18198548
If they turn you down say "camaaaaaaahhhhhn"

And like open your legs

>>18198414
I'm currently holding on to a crush I have on a girl who lives 12 hours drive away from me.. I don't even know if she's single, I'm assuming she isn't.. I barely spoke to her, reasons.. but it's been 2 1/2 months and I'm still hanging on to the possibility of..at the very least slow dancing with her someday.. it hurts me inside now and then, sometimes a lot.

>>18198426
bump

>>18198553

Well, if you were a guy, you'd be so toasted. You would miss so many ladies. When girls understand this, things will be easier for both genres.

I've done that a couple of times and I barely go out.

>>18198564
Don't forget the good old classic

>show me your boobs! (Sends pic of Captain Falcon)
> *moves oh god I meant MOVES

> hello?

>>18198580
expose genitals and do a little dance

>>18198548
>>18198559
>>18198564
>>18198588

https://youtu.be/5Z5JsrO7378

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>>18198602

>Hahahahahahahahhhggagaga

You're so right, though

>>18198414
I was afraid I'd repulse her.. I felt extremely compatible with her. But I kept convincing myself that my attraction was no different than most other men there... it wasn't, I know it wasn't..

So many people approached her to talk to her, girls mostly.. but I didn't wanna bombard her. I just LOVED watching her be herself.. the way she dressed, her adorable haircut, the way she danced when music came on, the way she distanced herself to seek out new music or solitude.. I was way too smitten, far too in love, far too quickly, and it was the last day of the event, so I knew we both had to go.. months later I'm still wishing for a miracle.

>>18198618
However, I did do something to try and get her to notice me. But she didn't reply to my messages.. I probably creeped her the fuck out, or who knows.. maybe she didn't even read em(?).. hmm

Guys and girls:

I have only had sex once, but I am not unattractive, I'm just a social recluse. There is a girl who I think is cute, but she isn't my ideal type of girl (big ass and tits), she is rather petite and short. I think I have a chance with her. But I am only attracted to her for the prospect of sex.

Should I pursue her to have sex or should I wait for a girl I am more physically attracted to?

>>18198696
Thinking about it, I guess I am asking about how to start a fuck buddy relationship....

>>18198696
Guy here, only had sex once too. Long story, don't ask. But in between the years I've tried to get with several girls, with no success or disappointing shit happening. It's up to you man. In my personal experience, what I've realized is that most of my physical attractions are out of desperation. Finally when I developed a crush on a girl years and years later did I realized, I wished I could scrub out of my memory the more insignificant attractions. Absolutely forget my own stupidity. But life is very unforgiving, both spiritually and physically. Up to you ultimately.

>>18198696

I've only had sex once and it was with a girl I did not like. That was 6 years ago. If I ever end up having sex again one day in the future, I'll only do it with a girl I'm totally attracted to.

>>18197997
Please somebody help me I'm about to shoot myself.
How do I stop acting like "the crazy bitchy possessive girlfriend"??
We all know a friend who dated a chick that was always pissy at parties, gave him a hard time when he wanted to hang out with the guys and who we couldn't understand why he was putting up with her bullshit.

I swore to myself I would never be like that once I found a bf but I am. This is both of our first relationship, 23F with guy same age, we're 4 months in, he told me he loved me today after I basically pressured him into it and of course then I was unhappy with that. I can't stop acting like this and I don't know why he even is (or was we basically broke up not sure) with me. I feel like he just doesn't care about me although he tells me he does all the time.

Sorry for rambling but I am truly lost and don't know how to proceed, whenever we have a fight I sulk, hard. I remember all the previous fights we've had and it only makes me more upset and unable to communicate what the problem is. I know this is the shittiest thing to do and yet I do it every time, again and again I just can't stop myself. He's gone now visiting his family and not texting. Please help I know I'm being a huge pain in the ass bitch but I just can't help myself, why am I like this?

>>18198735

You'll destroy this one and hopefully learn from your mistakes for your next one.

>>18198735
Meds.. treat it like depression till you can cool off?

I wish I was on meds with an ex of mine. Granted, I don't believe she'd have remained anyway, cuz LDR. But I wish I had peace of mind..

A lot of people think they wouldn't become like you, but a lot of those people are rarely sober. I'm only recommending this method because I understand your desperation to wanna change.. a lot of us wish we could have been different at some really important point in our lives.. but we just don't have the experience to know better. So.. meds.

I took celexa 5 years after an ex left me and it was the only thing that stopped me from screaming at walls and going crazy. Hang in there.

>>18198763
Also, good music.. listen to positive music.

Girls
How do you feel about being affectionately manhandled on a routine basis?

Would you date a guy shorter than you?

I met a girl off an anonymous social app at my college. She was saying she'd sell nudes. I grabbed her snap right before deleted it, and she sent me nudes... And it turned out she just wanted to sext. So the next day we have phone sex, with snaps in between, complimented my dick, said my name, did tons of nasty shit for the general purpose of being horny. I had no money to spend obviously. Anyway, the next day she says she's gotta stop because of her ldr bf, LOL. so I say sure, but I send her music I thought she would like, and she did, so we continued snapping. I sent her a pic of my face in hopes she'd reciprocate, but she didn't even though she said I'm cute, and every time she'd see me, she'd tell me and she'd even send me snaps of where she is at school, seemingly wanting to tease me. Every time I asked her to hang she said no, so I got tired of it and blocked her.
Fast forward to this week, I finally identity her, matched lips, glasses, tits, ass. I even sat near her group at the library, where I found out her name through eavesdropping. I wanted to talk to her right there, but she was in a group... Anyway... I know when I can approach her when she's alone next Monday. I'm thinking of going up to her and just revealing that I know who she is. I'd love to take her out to eat and fuck her, but I feel like revealing that I know who she is will free me from thinking about her so much.

Ladies, imagine you're a promiscuous Muslim girl with an ldr bf, would you go for me? Or were you just fucking around with no hope of meeting and doing it irl?

Plz halp.

>>18198800
Excuse the typos, I'm on a phone.

>>18198763
>>18198766
I was hospitalized for 3 months when I was 18 and took depression/anxiety meds until I was 22 or 23 I think. Stopped taking them because I (felt) I didn't need them anymore.
He knows all this and about my shitty upbringing and he has been very patient with me but I think I pushed things too far this time.

>>18198746
There won't be a next one, this is my first try at relationships, refrained from them but thought I'm getting too old and that it was ridiculous so I tried, and it has been miserable although he is the nicest person on earth. I know I sound like a dramatic teenager but I just feel like nobody will ever truly understand me. I haven't felt this lonely in a long time and I've felt like this eversince we were together I guess.

Girls

Why does my gf accuse me non stop of cheating and not trust me? She goes through my phone/laptop any time she has a chance. The worse thing she's found is me texting my best friend saying Im sick of her shit.

>>18198817
deeply rooted insecurity.

>>18198783
no
yes

if you found out someone had no friends at all, and hadn't spoken to another person outside of work, their relatives, or the Internet for years, would that be a red flag?

>>18198809
You upbringing and past med use has nothing to do with RIGHT NOW though..

Let me give you some perspective.

The very girl I mentioned I was in a LDR with, she knew I used to smoke weed. I had stopped for some time now, and when I met her, I told her and even promised her I no longer did it.

Months go by and eventually my friend gets all bummed out that I never smoke with them and I just felt ..well, like if I did it he'd finally shut up you know? So I smoked some, then I thought of what my gf would think and I felt so fucking guilty..

She dumps me, years go by, she smokes now. We haven't talked in 8-9 years?

Point is, it's better to talk about it and be transparent about the intentions you have for using a medicine and why. You wanna be better for him, and that is ideal.

If say, I would have smoked weed throughout the entire time and after my ex left, my mind would have been conditioned by the drug to deal with the emotional impact cuz I'd have been a fuckin burnout I guess..

But since I wasn't, I endured the full force of her poor decisions and her eventually dumping me. I wanted so badly to change and be "under control", but I was simply too emotionally inexperienced to understand how to. It was all new to me.

There is no shame in admitting you need help.

>>18198831
Yes, but I would still check them out. I like weirdos.

>>18198831
It would depend on what kind of person they are. I've known a lot of super focused people that are like that, the type of person who's so into one thing (usually a hobby or a sport) that they tend to trim the fat from their life to make more time for that. As for whether or not that's a red flag, yes and no. A lot of people like that are really lonely, because they don't spend much time with people, but they don't want to go out and try to meet more people because it takes too much time. There's always the risk that they'll ignore you to keep up with their hobby, but often times they value you even more so because you're their only real social contact.

The main example of this that I'm aware of is this girl I dated for about a year who was *super* into jiu jitsu, and pretty much spent all her time outside work either at the gym, at home working out, or reading books about martial arts. She was fantastic. Self sufficient as hell so she was never clingy, but still really appreciated spending time together, and /fit/ girls are great in bed.

TL;DR: It can be a red flag, but it also represents a possible opportunity. Potential high risk high reward kind of situation.

>>18198831
Most people in America are this these days. You're all a bunch of depressive lonely facebook tards who rely on social media and online dating to keep up.

I can't even get real conversation out of you fucks at the bus stop anymore, it's sad. You just stare and blubber and stammer over your words because this is a culture that tells everyone they should fuck off and the slightest hint of humanity is looked upon with guile and deep surprise.

Miserable fucks. You're all alone all of the time and you won't let anyone else penetrate your bubble of solitude without an electronic screen separating you from any real emotion.

I can't wait to see what this generation will look like once it starts to run for public office.

>>18198837
How do I acquire a gf willing to bear with what a weirdo I am?

>>18198861
hit up the local anime con as a cosplayer (and do it well)

all the freaks in the county will swarm you if you trigger their muh husbando urges.

>>18198858
Believe me, plenty of Americans are frustrated about this too. You want to know the weird part about it? Everybody WANTS to have good in-person friends. The other day I hauled some guys from work out to the bar and got some beers into them to help them relax a little bit, and I started telling some funny stories from back when I lived in LA, and they. Fucking. LOVED. It. They were watching me like little fucking kids sitting around grandpa's chair at the fireplace, they were laughing hard, hanging on every word, but when I get done with a few stories and trail off to let one of them pick it up and chip in their own stories, these fuckers just keep watching me, waiting for me to keep going. People don't even know how to sit around and just talk shit with the guys anymore, they're happy to listen and "participate" from the sidelines, but when they get the opportunity to throw their own thoughts, stories, jokes, whatever the fuck in there, they just clam up, quit talking, and awkwardly start looking around.

People *want* to be social, they just don't fucking know how, and that shit's sad as fuck.

>>18198868
This actually works wonderfully. I did a cosplay of Young Justice superboy at a con last summer and I fucked a different girl every night of the con. Those nerd girls are easy once you prove that you're from their world.

>>18198837
I think people like the idea of a weirdo more than they like actual weirdos

>>18198847
I go home after work because I don't really know where else I would go. I don't know anyone else who shares my niche hobbies outside if the internet, and I spend a lot of time playing vidya as a means of escapism. In the past people have always said I should make friends through my work, but there isn't really an overlap. They are all 5-10 years older, married with kids, and like sports.

>>18198878
>because I don't really know where else I would go. I don't know anyone else who shares my niche hobbies outside if the internet
Then get some new hobbies man, that's what I did. I used to spend all my spare time on vidya, but at a certain point I deleted steam, sold my consoles, and got into MMA and Magic: The Gathering, just because those are two pretty popular pastimes in my area. While you're doing them you'll meet new people.

>>18198861
Dude, I'm a guy, and I'm the same. Only child, 31, live alone. I have two days off and I mostly spend them alone. I do mostly everything by myself, unless my mom brings over some food.

Old friend of mine txt's me trying to reconnect. "Wanna go to a rap show?" he says. I'm not even remotely interested in rap or shows.. I make one exception a year and it's a noise show. I just really enjoy my peace of mind, and being surrounded with too many voices and "acting" human drains me after a while.

I just want a gf who is like me, or similar in that she understands when it's time not to irritate one another. Just someone who is agreeable, likes driving places with me, sitting there eating a burger with me, watching the water. Or exploring places together, creating things together.

>>18198876
You need to have a good body to pull off Young Justice Superboy.

>>18198861
>>18198884
What are you going to actually find one? One of the biggest frustrations I've had with men over the years is that no men these days actually take any effort to meet women, they just kind of stand around waiting for it to happen then get surprised when they're still single at 35.

>>18198783
Wouldn't like it, but I'm not a native speaker so I'm not sure I understand what that means.

My ex of 4 years is 13 cm shorter than me

>>18198892
Eh, not really. I still had a little bit of chub back then, you just need decent shoulders and the ability to pull off the perfect cold autism stare.

>>18198901
In that context I'm guessing he means like full body hugs, lifting you up for a kiss, the wife-carry, that kind of thing.

>>18198783
Love it when guys do that. Assuming you mean like lifting you up for a hug and that kind of thing, not like a loving rear naked choke or something.

>>18198907
>a loving rear naked choke
jesus christ I'm dying

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>>18198896
No, I've made efforts. But the older I've gotten the more I realize that the attractions I develop are purely physical usually, and that isn't worth any more than a lonely fap in the bathroom. Finally when you meet the person you truly appreciate, that person is either taken and doesn't reciprocate it. So you just sit there realizing how fucked up it all is.

You wanna be good for someone so you wait. But then they aren't good or ready for you.

The opposite being, you go for whoever you want. Only to realize you're merely cheapened yourself spirtually.

>>18198913
>The opposite being, you go for whoever you want. Only to realize you're merely cheapened yourself spirtually.
What the fuck does that even mean?

>I'm keeping myself unhappy to maintain my spiritual purity.
I think you need a shrink more than a girlfriend.

>>18198919
It's a peace of mind thing.. maybe I do need a shrink who knows. But I know this finger pointing shit you're doing isn't right either so I'm not convinced.


You are too A, you should be like B.

I'm not interested in the happy, crazy, social world of human interraction. Solitude is my norm. I speak to people regularly and they wouldn't know the difference.

Dudes

Generally speaking, how unattractive/gross is loose breast skin and sagging?

>>18198937
Depends entirely on how much I love the girl for everything she is, not just her body.

>>18198874
whenever I talk to people I get this immediate sense that they aren't actually interested in what I am saying and that they would rather I leave them alone. I feel selfish for bothering them.

I also have no sense of achievement in my personal life either. My degree, my career, the home I own, lack of credit card debts, etc... all of it feels like I was just doing what was expected of me. I've done a bunch impressive-sounding of things at work, but those don't feel like achievements at all; it was literally my job to do those things. What have *I* really done?

I met a girl while i was travelling and got her number. I want to ask her if she wants to get something to eat on Tuesday but i don't know how to approach it.

Should i just mention I'm free that day and see what she's up for? Should i commit to going to her town and deciding on where we'll eat afterwards? Should i offer that we go somewhere else entirely?

Keep in mind, i don't really give a shit what we do, i just want to spend time with her.

>>18198947
I feel similar bro

like, no matter what I do, no matter how creative I am, or have been, how far I've pushed myself to the limit -I realize that it doesn't define me.. not my music, drawings, job, money.. none of things are truly me.. and what I really want more than anything is to feel loved, and be able to love someone in a way that makes them feel just right.. and not overdo it.

>>18198930
>Solitude is my norm.
Man shut the fuck up, humans are not solitary creatures. When we're away from other people or other sincere social connections for too long, we literally start dying faster. How much time do you spend smiling or laughing when you're alone? Now how much time do you spend in a grey, hollow state of emotional neutrality, alone with your thoughts?

Most of the people I hear who say that they're just a loner type, that they're better off alone, are either just deluding themselves, or they've been alone for so long that they forgot what being really happy with friends is even like, so they don't place value on it anymore. Humans aren't meant to be alone, biologically or socially. Our brains are literally dependent on other people to have happiness, because much of our positive emotion and even the neurotransmitters associated with happiness flow when triggered by the sympathetic nervous system as a response to being around other happy people.

>>18198947
Then find something you enjoy doing. Start trying out different social hobbies. The two that worked really well for me were martial arts training and magic the gathering. You'll never meet an MMA fighter or a MTG player who won't gladly sit with you and talk for an hour about your mutual hobby.

>>18198969
To add to this, a lot of the loner types on this site forget that 4chan is a social site.

>>18198969
>or they've been alone for so long that they forgot what being really happy with friends is even like, so they don't place value on it anymore
THIS


THIS THIS THIS THIS

This describes so fucking many people.

>>18198896
I'm an asspie loner, but a handsome one, so I have no fucking clue what I'm supposed to even try to be doing and when I get attention I'm either too dense or too nervous for anything to happen. Hence my desire for a woman willing to put up with what a weirdo I am for long enough for me to feel more comfortable and confident with her

>>18198913
Jesus.
Are you me?
In my pursuit for a girl I found myself lost, countless times
I'm not sure I stayed true to my own rules or that I have any soul left.

>>18198904
Also being spun around in circles

>>18198979
>I have no fucking clue what I'm supposed to even try to be doing and when I get attention
Try talking with them. Like they're just a person you're interacting with. Seriously, you don't need to be super smooth or charismatic or employ any advanced game, just talk to them. Have a conversation.

>>18198883
I have no interest in any of the popular hobbies in my area and literally the only satisfaction in my life comes from my niche hobbies. If I give up those, then what is left for me?

>>18198969
>or they've been alone for so long that they forgot what being really happy with friends is even like, so they don't place value on it anymore
This is accurate I suppose. When I look back on my memories of hanging out with friends 15 years ago... what was it even like? I remember the stuff we did, but not how any of it felt. Even from just 4 years ago when I was still working on my degree, I feel like I am a totally different person.

A contact from several years ago wants me to interview at his start up, and I am strongly considering accepting if they make me an offer if for no other reason than the people that work there are all closer to my age, with some naive hope that maybe there might be some common ground between us. That feels like a really dumb reason to change jobs though...

>>18198972
>You'll never meet an MMA fighter or a MTG player who won't gladly sit with you and talk for an hour about your mutual hobby.
Everyone I've ever met who liked MMA told me so over and over again and would never shut up about it.

>>18198937
It really depends on a whole lot of things.

>>18198969
Abundance degrades endurance.

Endurance produces abundance.

This is life.

In the presence of many old friends, I no longer feel an emotional connection. Why? Because they've got lives of their own, gf's of their own, bills, and problems of their own. They are grown ass men, as am I. With my own job and concerns. I distance myself, that they may live without one more distraction on their table. And I feel in no way emotionally invested in them.

For this reason at my age, I prefer to have the same, a partner. A good woman there who understands me. I don't want to "pretend" to be what my body clearly tells me I'm not. Some crazy excited about life individual, that I am not.

So I met this girl from tinder and she seemed to be really into me, using hearts a stuff in texts but then last weekend I got sick and had to cancel on her (was going to be 4th date) and now she seems way less interested in me.
We are in crunch time with exams and everything but she isnt texting back as much and I'm not sure where we stand anymore.

tl;dr Went on 3 dates with new girl in a week, got sick and couldn't hang out and now it seems like she's not into me.

What should I do?

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Looking to improve how I fuck.
How do I become more confident in my sexuality without delving into whorish territory?

>>18198991
>and literally the only satisfaction in my life comes from my niche hobbies. If I give up those, then what is left for me?
You have no interest in them *now*, but the thing is, once you dive in you'll start to take more interest in them. You think I gave a fuck about MMA or fucking card games before I started doing them? Hell no, I was a fat lazy neckbeard, but I quickly grew to love them, and over time got better. Yeah, there's an element of risk involved, but not *that* much, you can always go back to your old, lonely ways if other things don't work out after a few months.

You hear so much of that

>How do I achieve emotional satisfaction while taking no risks and maintaining my boring grey shut in life?
YOU FUCKING DON'T. You want to improve your life, you have to get a little uncomfortable at first.

>>18199006
She was literally saying stuff like I loved seeing that movie with you

>>18199008
lookup "the grapefruit method"

>>18198991
>A contact from several years ago wants me to interview at his start up, and I am strongly considering accepting if they make me an offer if for no other reason than the people that work there are all closer to my age
Fucking do it. If you're unhappy now, what do you have to lose? A 50/50 chance for a good outcome or a bad outcome is infinitely better than a %100 chance for a deeply unpleasant "neutral" outcome.

>>18198969
>humans are not solitary creatures

Humans are whatever the fuck we define ourselves by.

>When we're away from other people or other sincere social connections for too long, we literally start dying faster

You misread the studies that correlate social isolation with CVD. It's okay, most people rely on pop-sci editorials to regurgitate that info so I'm not surprised you're ignorant.

Social isolation (read: NOBODY INTERACTING WITH YOU, NOT EVEN PARENTS) with protracted depression is a risk factor for CVD. Being a loner-type or an introvert is not a risk factor for CVD.

And I'd point out being a go-getter, extroverted "le type a personality" is also a risk factor for CVD so it's not like you're not swinging on the pendulum at any time.

I'm getting tired of pretentious pseuds regurgitating pop-psychology at me to try and proselytize extroversion. Even if all your statements were accurate (they're not), what business is it to you that I live a longer life? People smoke, drink, overeat in your social world and cut their lives down far more dramatically than I would cut my life down cutting out people. Where is your proselytism then?

>because much of our positive emotion and even the neurotransmitters associated with happiness flow

Oh lord, it's another MUH DOPAMINE & OXYTOCIN = HAPPINESS nut. The worst possible pseud on 4chan is the armchair neuroscientist with platonic aspirations. In reality, you're deluding yourself with a cult that mandates everyone must be social even when they don't want to be. I despise cultists like you, for you treat your supposed truth as an eternal that all must worship or else we'll all burn because (hell, x health effects, muh neurotransmitters). And you'll likely reply to this with personal attacks or mindless character assumptions of my personality, navel gazing or babby's first psychoanalysis.

>>18198995
Exactly! When you try out new and interesting shit you get obsessed with it, which can be annoying as fuck, even for those of us that are into it, because there's always that guy at the gym who comes into a conversation about local restaurants and just needs to talk about this sick triangle he pulled off in the last tournament.

Granted some people take it too far, but if you're also into that kind of thing, talking to those people can be interesting because you both have the proficiency to be able to discuss it. I'm not saying that's guaranteed how you'll turn out, but in my eyes the dopey obsessed MMA enthusiast is better off than the lonely, depressed nerd who never leaves his house, because at least the first guy is happy and focused.

>>18199014
Is it truly worth getting grapefruit juice in your urethra?

>>18199009
you sound like one of the assholes at my work, who one day flipped out went on a huge angry rant about how he doesn't like me because I don't go out drinking with him or table about his boring sports and only ever talk to him about work. Maybe if he reflected upon his own actions and the environment in which we interact he would understand why.

>>18198230
i guess i was put straight into friendzone

who cares, she's still fine as a friend and i don't spend time with her outside of university

what seem to bother me if she just writes me if she is bored or so

>>18199002
>In the presence of many old friends, I no longer feel an emotional connection. Why?
Because you're bad at maintaining friendships?

This is seriously an american problem. I've lived in a lot of places, and only in america (and to a lesser extent britain, canada, australia) is it weird for a dude to have a close knit circle of friends that he's known for most of his life.

>that they may live without one more distraction on their table
Jesus fucking christ dude, you think of your friends as a distraction, and they think of you that way? Friends are a support system, a safety net, a relief from the world, why the shit would you think of them as a burden?

>>18198878
>I think people like the idea of a weirdo more than they like actual weirdos
Usually true but I'm a bit dysfunctional myself and prefer other weird people. The main difficulty is to find weirdos who respect other people's weirdness. Mutual respect is key for any relationship

>>18198985
Talking to people in general isn't my strong suit. I'm no mystified by it or anything, just not the best at it

>>18199018
>Humans are whatever the fuck we define ourselves by.
You sound like an otherkin. You can define yourself as a reincarnated squid or an astral being, but that doesn't change the social and biological realities of what you are.

>the vast majority of your post
That's great, but totally unimportant, because I'm not talking about CVD, I'm talking about being a miserable lonely bastard. If you seriously think that living an isolated life is only a problem when it manifests one specific mental condition, you are probably one of those loners who's just trying to delude themselves. Lonely people are less happy. You won't find me a study that refutes that claim.

>MUH INTELLECTUAL PROWESS AND INTEGRITY
Yeah, rant on about all the studies and armchair scientists you want, but you need to work on your reading comprehension.

>>18199046
>And you'll likely reply to this with personal attacks or mindless character assumptions of my personality, navel gazing or babby's first psychoanalysis.

Cultists are too predictable.

>>18199027
>maybe if a normal, healthy person with an active and satisfying social life spent more time as an introverted asocial aspie, he'd have more "understanding".

Nigger no.

At the end of the day, he's happy, has friends, and isn't bitching about his loneliness on an internet forum. Your own "understanding" and "reflection" is killing you.

>>18199033
No. I don't perceive them as a negative. I simply ALWAYS knew, that they would create a life for themselves as I am trying to do so.

I don't feel an emotional connection because they've moved on for years and did their own thing. And now all of a sudden they show up and wanna reconnect. But I can already hear it in their voices that their brains are hardwired into their problems. And they are inseparable from them.

I sympathize with them, and wish nothing but the best for them. But we all live far apart and lives simply go on.

>>18199054
>You're unhappy because you're lonely.
>"You don't know SHIT about psychology, do you even CVD?
>I'm not talking about CVD.
>"JUST AS PLANNED, I KNEW YOU'D SAY THAT, CULTIST!!!

Yeah, okay.

>>18199046
>I literally claim you'll be less healthy if you don't do everything I say
>b-b-b-but heart disease doesn't count f-f-fucking nerd

>>18199063
>has no arguments that aren't truisms
>relies on lol ur a luser to reinforce his point
>this assanger

Calm down, cultist.

I miss when there were still advice threads on /adv/ and not this /r9k/ shit

>>18199062
You realize that people can make a life for themselves and still maintain their friendships, right? I don't know where you're getting this idea that you can't.

>>18199070
Dude, just face it, you went off on a rant on me when I wasn't even getting into your psychology stuff. I don't even get why we're talking, what I was saying has almost nothing to do with what you're saying. You assumed I was talking about shit I didn't know, and assumed I was referencing psychology I didn't understand, when all I was doing was referencing the fact that being alone makes you unhappy. What about that concept do you really take issue with?

>>18199066
Okay, so following your logic, I'm wrong if having friends doesn't decrease the likelihood of literally every medical condition occurring? Because that's what's being implied if you think finding one example of a disease that isn't affected by social factors is the ultimate check mate.

What the fuck do women mean when they say "I need some space"?!!?! Like what the fuck is that supposed to mean? I'm not a fucking codebreaker!! God damn fuck

>>18199097
Ask the woman you aspie fuck.

>>18199097
I'm no expert, but if I had to guess I think it means that she needs some space.

>>18199079
Can=/=want

The more I bring into my life, the less of me there is. The less I bring into my life, the more of me I know.

And so, I wait. Right now I can drive over to the local pub, sit there, get drunk, talk to strangers, and generally feel neutral. Maybe smile a little more. But my life goes on, my job, my home, cooking, etc. And it's mostly just me doing this all by myself, so I'm physically, spiritually drained. If my friends don't necessarily uplift me, but instead drain me more, because introvert, because life, etc. Then I feel friendships to be a chore.

I generally don't feel this way when it's someone I have a soft spot for. Like my neighbor who is an old lady with cancer who feeds cats. There are very few people in my age group I feel a connection for, and so the result is superficial attraction generally. Until the one I want comes along.

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>>18199091
>claims being alone makes you unhealthy and you "literally start dying faster" (with no citation ever given)
>gets BTFO'd for being a mindless pseud
>calls me an otherkin lmafo
>backpedals hard when questioned

Oh, /adv/. Never change. There's a reason nobody sane would ever ask this shithole for advice, and you personify it, my friend!

Stay classy, my sides.

>>18199106
Fucking kek

>>18199097
Could mean she's had a particularly bad day.

Could mean you're making her shitty feelings worse.

She's frustrated.

She needs time to think.

All things that annoy the fuck out of a guy in love with a woman, but it is sadly a reality. People need battery charging time.

>>18199104
Man you sound like you have depression. When I think about being around my kids, or cooking a good meal, or fucking around at the bar, or hanging with my friends it makes me feel happy.

I know psychological problems are over diagnosed, and I might be talking out of my ass here, but have you ever considered seeing a doc?

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>>18199108
>opens up with a wave of pseudo intellectualism
>instantly reverts to insults and assumptions as soon as pushback is felt

>>18199097
Cuck

>>18199117
Yes. I do feel depressed. Then I feel neutral, normal. But I think we all feel some kind of down.

Not all life stories are the same.

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>>18199120
>literally regurgitating my own insults and arguments with a helping dose of NO U

loooooooooool do you even have an imagination? or do you get that from your facebook feed?

>>18199108
being alone is unhealthy in the general case, humans need social interaction or you dont produce the right hormones which stresses your CNS which weakens your immune system which decreases your life expectancy

>>18199120
are you the same cuck that used that gay picture yesterday?

>>18199106
I don't have any sides left...

>>18199135
>he used that image macro! It must be the same guy as yesterday
Jesus Christ anon... Okay, has anyone explained to you how response images work, or are you just that new?

>>18199147
i didnt expect many people to use such an impotent thing

>>18199152
It gets passed around on /b/ quite a bit, it's probably just bleeding off onto other boards now.

>>18199156
>It gets passed around on /b/ quite a bit, it's probably just bleeding off onto other boards now.
The story of 4chan right there.

Ladies

How do you tell a girl to eat less without coming off as a jackass? She has gained 25lbs over the past year. Fucking kill me.

>>18199169
In my experience once a girl starts putting on weight that's that. I've known loads of guys who have gotten fat then gotten fit again and lost the weight. I've only known one woman who did, and that was because she was literally too poor to buy lots of food.

>>18199055
Yeah, he was bitching at his coworkers, because other people's life choices make him angry. Such a mentally healthy, happy guy...

>>18199169
You can't tell someone they're fat without sounding like a jerk.
If she's your girlfriend, ask her to diet or exercise with you.

>>18199076
I always say those creeps should be excluded from society.

Weirdos don't deserve compassion or love.

>>18199192
this fucker again

>>18199185
Or, much more likely, the "perfectly neutral" coworker is a snide asshole, because most of those downbeat, depressive, snarky types perceive themselves as just being the "quiet, intelligent, neutral" type. People who spend all their time alone tend to be very deluded about who and what they are.

How do I ask my friend out without worrying she doesn't like me romantically? It's scary for me to put my feelings out there like that and to think she may reject.

Anal sex - girls why are you so adverse to anal sex. In watching shitting videos your anus stretches about as easy as your pussy. You all can crank out some massive turds. You could easily accommodate average and even large cocks.

>>18199244
>How do I [do the thing] without worrying about [doing the thing]?
Are you seriously asking us how not to worry? You will worry. End of story.

>>18199267
1. I enjoy anal, although most women don't. Interestingly, more men enjoy anal sex than women, because unlike women men actually have a mechanism for physical pleasure, whereas women don't as much.

>when watching porn
No, stop. Pornstars are girls who have practiced anal quite a lot. Anal isn't something you just jump into (at least you shouldn't), and if you want to do it without pain, and with any possibility of pleasure, you build up to it over a long period of time. Like, over weeks or months. You're doing things with a muscle that it was never really built to do.

>You all can crank out some massive turds.
Yes, and it's often a bit uncomfortable, and you're only pushing one object through there once, and your body is helping you by relaxing the anus. When something is pushing *into* your ass, it's reflexive to tighten up and try to push it out, so if it forces its way in it's either breaking your muscle's hold or even tearing the muscle a bit, which hurts.

>>18198800
Any girls have advice for this?

>>18199192
this anon gets it

People without friends should be and are further ostracized. They are freeloaders on society and should not be allowed to take part in it. They are all a bunch of neckbeard millennial neets anyway.

>>18199312
They're already ostracizing themselves. Seems like kind of a self solving problem.

>>18199215
You seem to nourish an uncommon hate for loners. Were you one at some point?

What is the easiest way to start talking to girls? I'm pretty good looking but nearly have a heart attack when women look talk to me. I have no idea what I'm supposed to say. I fell for the STEM meme so I have 0 female friends.

>>18199327
See
>>18199192
>>18199312
Just give up. we hate you. We will never let you pretend you deserve being part of society.

>>18199207
Go back to /r9k/

>>18199334
Why are you all so mad? Is it an insecurity thing?

>>18199290
how did you started thinking about/liking anal?

>>18199324
Yes, actually. I and a lot of the guys I knew were the "loner type" who just tried to be as grey and neutral as possible, but ended up being standoffish assholes, and would talk among ourselves about just how naive and stupid all these (normal, happy, social) plebeians around us were.

>>18199346
>how did you started thinking about/liking anal?
I was watching porn with one of my earliest boyfriends, and we saw anal, and I agreed to try it if he would. We worked up to it over time, and both ended up enjoying it.

>>18199340
It's just makes me cringe. Why do you think you are alone? Because you are a "nice guy"? It makes me mad because you are obviously a little victim psycho full of mental issues.

>>18199352
that's so romantic

>>18199359
I'm not alone? I just don't talk to girls because I'm in a male dominated field.
And what the fuck are you talking about? Nice guy, psycho?

>>18199348
I most certainly know the type, but assuming every loner is like that is just mean spirited and no offense, kinda bitter. I really know a lot of shy types who are perfectly pleasant and don't think highly of themselves

>>18199348
>a lot of the guys I knew were the "loner type" who just tried to be as grey and neutral as possible, but ended up being standoffish assholes, and would talk among ourselves about just how naive and stupid all these (normal, happy, social) plebeians around us were
I've always wondered if this kind of thing is the male equivalent of the tumblerite special snowflake thing. You get the same social dysfunction, the same unhappiness and condescension, but guys typically feel a bit less compulsion to be social, so instead of mob mentality and hostility you get condescension and bitterness. Maybe be way off, but you see a lot of the same types of person in the two groups, so it makes me thing.

>>18199373
Yeah, and that's definitely true, but most of the shy well adjusted types don't have people blowing up at them at work because of their attitude. It's possible that the other guy was the asshole here, but given what I know about them (one is an introverted self obsessed misanthrope, the other is a normal dude), I'm inclined to think fault from one over the other.

>>18199372
yep just keep making excuses. It isn't your fault you are lonely. You think you are entitled friends to keep you entertained, and want a female companion to use her body when you feel the urge, and not for any sort of fulfilling relationship. Your loneliness is a product of your own selfishness and your inability to empathize with others.

Fuck off back to /r9k/

>>18199372
>I just don't talk to girls because I'm in a male dominated field.
>women don't fall into my lap at work, therefor I can't meet any!
Dude. Be glad you don't work with women. You don't want to meet a girl at her job, go out and meet one somewhere else.

Girls

what is your sexual fantasy/fetish?

>>18199390
Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed.
>>18199397
I worked at a grocery store before uni and the girls weren't too bad. What are you getting at?

>>18199400
>what is your sexual fantasy/fetish?
>>>/d/

>>18199406
>What are you getting at?
In my experience men are always more useful than women at work. They're more practical, they take criticism better, and you don't have to walk around eggshells around them. Maybe I've just had terrible luck, but I've heard similar sentiments expressed from other people I work with, which makes me think it's a trend.

>>18199397
/r9k/
>>18199406
Stealth /r9k/

>>18199400
Rape, mostly. Bit of daddy/daughter play here and there.

>inb4 daddy issues

>>18199411
anything specific?

Girls

Why is it that because I'm sweet and I constantly do things for my girlfriend she likes to throw the word manipulative out there? I'm not going to lie I'm pretty domestic and I like being the passive player in the relationship. My gf is good with that. It's her thing. That's fine. However we have disagreements that get blown into not talking for like a day and I always apologize. Because it's my fault most if not all the time, so I apologize and she'll say something like. They're you going being manipulative! Or I just won't put up with your controlling shit today. I'm not any of those and it hurts me she says that. I would and have bent over backwards for her I feel nothing but love for her. To use the world slave would not be unkind. But I'm ok with that as long as she doesn't cheat which she doesn't. So what's the deal? Does she feel guilty or something? I don't have a controlling bone in my body.

>>18199413
I actually kinda get it, men are usually better workers. But women are kinda nicer and more likely to give me breaks and stuff. I don't know about the corporate world though, maybe different.

>>18199418
When you say it's your fault what kind of situations are you talking about?

>>18199418
You are a manipulative creep

>>18199352
Do you orgasm from it or is it psychological as I've been told?

>>18199418
She sounds like a bitch, just break up with her.

>>18199425
Well something will happen and I'll get upset or worried or say something stupid and she'll be mad at me.

>>18199428
That's not good. What am I doing wrong so I can fix it?

>>18199429
Never orgasmed just from anal, but it feels good and I greatly enjoy it, just like tit play; can't make me cum, but still fun, and great alongside sex.

>>18199424
>But women are kinda nicer and more likely to give me breaks and stuff.
See that's something I don't really get, because most of the guys I work with skip our breaks, and often skip lunch, just because we've got shit to do, and it's almost better to just soldier on that throw a 10 minute break in there, because you won't really be able to relax in that time anyway.

>>18199443
It depends on the job, if you're just stocking shelves until you're shift is over you want a break.

>>18199417
consensual vore

comfy bondage

and sick stuff like loving relationships, kissing, and holding hands

>>18199437
Give an example of a typical fight you've had.

From what you're saying maybe you're being a bit too passive. It could be she thinks you're trying to guilt her into feeling bad by giving in and apologizing so easily, but it's hard to say without knowing what your arguments are like..

>>18199460
Google search: Karbo (Deviantart.) Giantess/vore artist - singlehandedly got me to start playing League of Legends from an Arcade Sona fanart.

>>18199437
I was just being an ass hole. She is the manipulative one

im too nice of a dude, I cant say no. basically now got myself pretty deep into a relationship with a girl who its really clear she gets around (even fucks/has fucked a few people I went to school with and call friends.) I found out last night there was another dude at the same party we were at that she hooked up with last weekend while I was busy with some stuff. this was basically less than a week after us deciding that we mutually both wanted to take this more seriously and not some casual sex fuck buddy situation (which im not against either). She got upset with me when I told her its totally fine if she wanted that so no one got hurt and no emotions were on the line, and said that's not what she wanted, shes tired of being with awful guys, etc.

its not the sexual history aspect that bothers me (im 21, shes 22. she lost her virginity at like 19 and I lost mine about 6 months ago), its the fact that she keeps saying all this stuff how she really likes me, is so grateful that we met each other, really cares for me etc., while also trying to arrange things with other people (even while we are hanging out with each other)

how does a fucking cuck pussified sad sack like myself finally get this shit out of my life and do a better job of staying away from shit like this?

>>18198800
Anyone?

I couldn't hit on this audiometrist who is the same age as me. ;_;

>>18198800
Don't do it, she wanted to stay anonymous and refused to meet you for a reason even if she was dumb as fuck about it. I can't imagine she'd react well to you revealing you found out who she is. Find someone else who you can be sure is up for it.

>>18199562
To me it almost seemed like she wanted to. She kept saying "I don't think it's a good idea" and "maybe" also told me her parents are pushing her to marry. She sent me an article titled " how to know you're dating an introverted extrovert". I took it as she wanted to but was afraid

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>>18197997

Girls, would most of you automatically reject a guy who is slightly shorter (1 inch?) and thinner than you?
I'm afraid of this girl not even seeing me as a potential partner.

>>18200025
Well I'm 5'0", so probably. Also if you're too stupid to read the OP, you have bigger problems than your height.

>>18197997
Does the implant lower a girl's sex drive?

I fell for this girl in one of my classes we both know each other but I have trouble talking to her for more than a seconds, last class she started asking me about this music festival I went to and I felt sick in the stomach. This is the first time this has happend talking to a girl in my life and now I've been denying girls even though I'm too autostic to ask her out

>>18200025
Height is a lot like dick size in that men worry about it a lot more than we do.

I met a cute girl after a tough break-up for me. We went out on a couple of dates, which all went great. To my estimate, we really match. We like the same stuff, we have fitting personalities, etc.

Tonight (a few hours ago, actually), we ended up staying together at her place. We watched a movie, ate, cuddled, kissed, had sex and talked for a long while.

After it was all done, she told me that ordinarily she would've let me stay with her during the night, but still felt a bit uncomfortable and that I shouldn't think anything about it. I accepted it. We kissed and I went home.

Despite her being so nicely direct and honest about it, which I appreciate enormously, I do think about what might've went wrong there.

At some point I will ask her about it, but I'd like to hear what you guys have to say about it. What's your opinion, adv?

Girls

Say you meet a decent looking guy at a bar, you sit together and have good conversations. At the end of the night you exchange numbers and head separate ways. Assume that you both decided to meet up later that week, got dinner and went back to his or your place and just relaxed on the couch and watched TV.

What would you think if he didn't make any moves on you? Also, what would you think/do (if anything) if you could tell he was nervous/anxious?

>>18200117
Sorry, but that question doesn't mean much because of how many factors there are when you're in person. For some guys I'd think they're nervous or awkward, some guys I'd think they're laid back, other I'd think they're just taking it slow. So much depends on their body language, word choice, etc, that just asking in a vacuum is really difficult to answer.

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So it has been about30 days since my ex broke up with me. Been on a couple dates and basically ignored her all month until yesterday. Sent her a text asking to hang out this weekend with a day and time. She agreed. How do I not fuck this up?

>>18200128

What I'm trying to see is. If you met a dude at a bar who you liked talking to, he likes talking to you as well. If you were on a later meet up time sitting together. If he never made a move, would you automatically friendzone him?

It's a hypothetical question. But something I can realistically see happening to me. I'm 25, never had girlfriend before. I'm trying to start going out and meeting girls. Unfortunately, the only place I can even find girls my age is bars (which sucks because I hate bars). I know that I'm going to be nervous as all hell if she is willing to meet up another time. I'm not looking for hook ups, since I don't believe in casual sex. But even still. I don't see me realistically even kissing a girl within a few whatever. I don't know. This shit is confusing. I just see myself getting friendzoned

>>18197997
>Hey, nonbinary neither-gender!
>Are you as marginalized as me?

>>18200147
>Unfortunately, the only place I can even find girls my age is bars
Not it isn't. Girls have hobbies too. If you have any hobbies that are at all social (gaming doesn't count) you will find girls there. I've met most of my boyfriends at conventions and gyms and that kind of thing. Bars are a great place to go get some dick (or pussy, in your case) but not so much a long term partner.

>>18200025
I don't care. Men care a lot more about this stuff than women tbqh.

>>18200154

Well I work a full time job. But my hobbies are shooting guns, I fly airplanes a lot, I do go to the gym regularly (but I've never seen girls my age there), and other than that I just like to relax and watch TV.

>>18199267
It's gross, embarrassing and usually painful, and unlike anal for men, we get little pleasure from it.

I've texted this girl who is interested in me, I stopped texting her and she had the last text. I want to ask her out for a coffee. It has been a week since the last text. Is it too late? Or am I still good to invite her out?

>>18198783
>How do you feel about being affectionately manhandled on a routine basis?
No thanks. I don't like it.
>would you date a guy shorter than you?
Yes.

>>18200170
If ur still thinking about her she's probably thinking about u. If she's interested that's not just gonna go away in a week

>>18198052
Shock horror, women actually have different tastes. I personally don't like really buff guys. The biggest I'd go is lean, 'ottermode' types. I like slender men.

Some women like 'bear' types, others football jock body. It's all dependent on the person.

>We men don't walk around pretending like we don't find boobs hot.
Yeah, but some men like thin women, some fat, some voluptuous. Some men like small boobs and some like giant ones. It still varies.

>>18198052
>We men don't walk around pretending like we don't find boobs hot.
I don't find boobs hot.

Granted, I don't hate them, but hips, ass, and legs are WAY higher on my list. I really don't mind if my girl has A cups if she's rocking a great ass and has real child-bearing hips.

Probably the same for most chicks, they won't mind a dude that's in shape, but it might not be their highest priority.

Men, why do men tend to see getting a girlfriend as a 'fix all' to their problems?

A woman, no matter how caring and compassionate and a good listener, cannot solve all your issues. Why do men tend to see women as the only emotional support in their lives? Why don't you deal with things with friends, or family, or alone?

Being someone's sole emotional support is exhausting. It's draining and can suck all pleasure from a relationship, and when women crack under the preassure of so much to deal with and leave there's often the inevitable "all women are bitches" thing. Why do some kinds of men simply refuse to take responsibility for themselves?

>>18200102
Any clues?

gone*

>>18200206

Because masculinity.

By not having a girlfriend, you're viewed as weak (unless you have regular casual sex).

>>18200063
All hormonal birth control can do that.

>>18200181
Thanks nigga, i'll text hr tomorrow when the day is new. Ask her out for sunday.

>>18200206
>Men, why do men tend to see getting a girlfriend as a 'fix all' to their problems?
In my experience, it tends to make everything else a little more bearable. There's something inside the male head that really wants to have someone waiting at home, someone to work for, someone to love. Plus sex is a great morale raiser.

>>18199400
A happy, functional long term relationship with a man who respects me and doesn't treat me as something to fuck and nothing more.

>>18199327
Start doing other stuff based around your hobbies. Then you have a conversation topic for any girls that you may come across.

>>18200206
Because nothing else will make me happy. No amount of self improvement or success fills the void, it might be in our genes.

>>18200212
But why do you not care for how your issues are impacting and draining your girl?

>>18200225
But, what will you do when/if the relationship fails?

>>18200235
Why the fuck do you assume he's letting his issues drag his girl down? I'm getting the sense you aren't exactly coming into this with a neutral, honest perspective if you're assuming the worst right off the bat.

Men, where does the desire for the pure, virginal 10/10 come from? Why do some men care more about virginity than a girl's personality and compatibility? What's so special about it?

I mean, I get not date a slut who bangs a different guy every week. I wouldn't date a manwhore either, the diseases and clear commitment issues are obvious. But why is a couple of previous relationships an issue?

>>18200251
Not her, but did you not read the part which clearly implies that she IS the girl who is being dragged down? It's not an assumption if it's happening.

>>18200251
I'm coming in with watching my friends' boyfriends' do this. I'm into girls, so I've never had those issues (although there are definitely other issues).

I'm talking about a specific kind of guy who goes on 4chan, who don't like women but want one to emotionally offload onto.

>>18200254
Date better men and/or stop assuming that guys here are representative of men irl. And if you know that, then why would you even care?

>>18200181
>>18200170

One final thought, last time I saw her, she seemed to avoid my gaze. Any thoughts? This was about two days ago.

>>18200261
I was asking about the specific mindset of men on here, out of curiosity. I am not dating a man like that, nor do I think that's all men.

My god, why are you so aggressive?

>>18200254
>where does the desire for the pure, virginal 10/10 come from?
It doesn't? Not for me. Fucking a virgin sucks. I'd rather fuck a slut than a virgin, because then you don't have to take it slow, you don't have to teach her how to fuck, you don't have to walk on eggshells.

>Why do some men care more about virginity than a girl's personality and compatibility?
Because some people are assholes? Jokes aside, it might be a fear of losing her once you have her. Girls who get into a committed relationship with the man who took their virginity, there's a dramatically lower chance of divorce if they get married. I'm guessing that's where the "don't fuck before marriage" thing in abrahamic religions came from.

>But why is a couple of previous relationships an issue?
For 95% of guys it isn't. To me it sounds like you've just dated an insecure asshole or two, and now you're getting the wrong idea about guys.

>>18200267
Why are you taking what guys you know aren't like guys irl think so personally?

>>18200268
I'm really not. I'm just curious as to where this mindset comes from, as it's something I can't get. I'm not asking for specific advice. I'm not even interested in dating at the moment.

I'm just looking for an answer out of curiosity.

>>18200258
Yeah, but when a drunk girl slaps me at the bar I don't get on the internet and ask why all girls feel the need to assault men while they're minding their own business and eating. Why? Because that's one person, not a living embodiment of her gender.

>I'm talking about a specific kind of guy who goes on 4chan, who don't like women but want one to emotionally offload onto.
Hate to break it to you but your average person who comes on 4chan is just that: your average person. Half the people who come here don't even post, and for those who do, it's only the most radical voices who stand out.

>>18200273
I'm not. I"m just curious.

>>18200276
Well then like I said, for guys who are into that it's probably either the idea that she's more likely to stay loyal, or not wanting to put your dick where other guys have been.

>>18200254
Look, clearly I didn't make this obvious.

I'm asking for insight, OUT OF CURIOSITY into a mindset I simply don't understand. It's not from personal experience, it's just an inquisitive request for insight.

I'm not dating a guy like that, not interested in one and wouldn't ever be. I was just wondering why exactly SOME guys think like that. I also don't for a second think it's a majority.

So I have this problem of getting girls interested in me and getting there number but I often don't call them although I still see them at school. I don't have a cell phone so they know I don't play the text game and all that. My question is to girls do you think I have to follow up rightaway or can I kind of drift off and come back to them?. My issue is I get depressed often and durrijg those times I try to come to terms alone rather than use girls as my emotional tampon.

>>18200264
probably trying to make u jealous and make it seem like she's over u. But once u hit her with that what are u up to? text she's urs

>>18200284
That's great sweatheart, you've been answered, calm the fuck down.

>>18200288
>implying that you guys weren't being assholes in your responses

>>18200285
>I don't have a cell phone
I bet you think you're cool and edgy for this

>>18200292
>I wanted nice answers so I asked 4chan
>btw, I'm completely retarded

>>18197997
How do you become friends with a woman? Don't get me wrong, female attention has never been an issue for me, but with pretty much every girl my own age that I've never known, as soon as I make it clear that I'm not going to fuck them, the interest fades away. I'm reasonably funny, reasonably smart, have no issue charming people with small talk, but it feels like I'm just dangling keys in front of their face for a little while, till they break away from the illusion and just wander off. Loads of male friends, find them easy to talk to, easy to relate to, but I've just never met a girl who seems interested in that kind of honest, trusting, "male" friendship.

>>18200296
I'm not her. I was just saying you guys were being rude cunts, but it's okay, I don't think men of 4chan have anything of value to add to society anyway. That's why you're all such losers.

>>18200299
>I'm not her.
Of course you're not.

>>18200292
The first guy was, the second guy was reasonable, and both were honest with their thoughts. That's a pretty good turnout for asking something on fucking 4chan.

>>18200293
Lol no actually I'm just broke. Its a pain in the ass but I've only had one briefly a few years back. The thing is if you've never really had one you relate to people differently and I ask the questions I do because the world of cellphone humans is something I don't fully comprehend.

>>18200299
>>18200284
>>18200254
Prove it.

>>18200310
How would you advise that?

>>18200309
>I don't relate to people properly because I don't have a cellphone
Confirmed for thinking he's edgy and cool for not having a cellphone

>>18200299
>I don't think men of 4chan have anything of value to add to society anyway. That's why you're all such losers.
Do you genuinely think that or are you just being bitchy? Because the average dude on 4chan is pretty much just your average dude.

>>18198834
she didn't dump me because of smoking btw, other stuff. just clearing that up.

>>18200239
Cry.

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>>18200315
Oh, hello newfag, I'm glad to welcome you to the site.

Either gender. Do you think politics is a reasonable reason to consider ending a relationship?

I've been with my boyfriend for about 2 years, and in those 2 years he's gone all over the place politically. I've begrudgingly tolerated it till now, but I'm honestly getting sick of the conspiracy theory, tinfoil hat stuff, the "it's the jewwwsss" , the "ree race mixing" etc.

I'm pretty moderate, and generally tolerate different viewpoints even if I don't agree, but it's just getting tiresome and annoying, and I find it really offputting.

>>18200206
>I'm a depressed faggot who's a failure at life
>What do happy guys have?
>Girlfriends
>Ergo if I get a girlfriend, all my problems will go away.

>>18200320
Well, depends on the board. But generally, yeah.

>>18200328
>Do you think politics is a reasonable reason to consider ending a relationship?
It can be. Not always, but it certainly can be. If it's just a few differences, or the two of you are good at locking it down and avoiding it, or you're the one in a million type of person who can actually have adult, calm conversations about politics, then you can probably keep up. However, if the two of you have radically different outlooks on life and you can't let it go or just let good enough be, then yeah, breaking up might be the next issue.

>>18200328
(((they))) got to you too.

OR did your boyfriend miss the nose?

>>18200254
It's a big deal for me but unfortunately the reason varies. I really want my first experiences to be slow and special. It would feel disgusting to share my first kiss with a girl who's sucked another man's dick. But there are people who simply fetishize it. But id be fine waiting for marriage.

>>18200328
In your case, yes. He sounds impressionable and unable to think for himself or think critically, to the point where he's intolerant and bigoted in relation to people he doesn't know. It's fine to have strong political opinions, but when an entire race of people piss a person off like that, I wouldn't even dream of dating them.

>>18200317
I'm the no cell phone person. Its just called being poor. All I'm saying is people that weren't brought right into the cellphone world conceptualize human relations differently. You remember people and interact with the memory until you talk to or see them next. Because of this I can go for longer periods of time without seeing or talking to someone and picking up right where I left off.

>>18200332
Well then congratulations, you are retarded. Saying everyone on 4chan is useless is almost as retarded as saying everyone on facebook or youtube is useless. This is a site with millions of users, of all different races, ages, occuptions, and outlooks.

>>18200298
Polite bump

>>18200334
I can talk about it, generally. I'm probably you know, the despised liberal, but I have friends from all stretches of the political compass.

I can respect well thought out political opinions. I can't respect the stupid /pol/ tier stuff that, rather like the SJWs can't take any criticism of clear logical inconsistancies etc. He gets so defensive about it.

>>18200299
>I'm not her.
Oh shut up, yes you are. >>18200344

>>18200344
Might just have to cut that cord then. I had a girl who got into the same kind of conspiracy shit, but more left leaning "evil white men, muh patriachy" kind of shit. I loved her, but you can only take so much crazy before you have to back off.

>>18200343
Look, as a tomboyish girl with lots of male friends and few female ones, I can honestly say male friendship works very differently to female friendship. Girls tend to be bound by shared experiences, gossip and confidences, whereas boys tend to be bound by shared interests.

If you're trying to befriend girls that are not a little tomboyish, the way they do friendship is very different to men, so they may not want it.

>>18200298
Look I have the same issue. I think it had to do with girls not straight friend zoning me. I think they come to the idea of possibly hooking up with me quickly and if I dont make the move they feel snubbed and it gets wierd

>>18200348
What did I do? I was talking about my boyfriend and politics?

>>18200357
Accidently misclicked while posting it, didn't mean to tag you and didn't catch it till the countdown went past.

>>18200365
Ah, okay.

>>18200285
Bumping this.

No one answered my question people just took issue with me not having a cellphone and projected nonsense onto it.

>>18200287
Thank you for your advice, I'll definitely hit her up tomorrow.

>>18200298
Try hanging out with older women. Sounds weird, I know, but a chick in her 30's or 40's is going to be way more chill, way more experienced with life, and better at conversation. Girls in their 20's are going to be pretty focused on you as a potential mate, and even if they don't want to fuck you, the possibility of it will make it a little weird.

>>18200298
Look, obviously "not all women" and all that, but at the end of the day, if you're trying to get that "one of the guys" friendship with a woman, it's not gonna work. You can't bullshit around with them because they get tense. You can't give them shit because they get offended. You can't be honest because they try.

I think the biggest difference between the way (most) women and (most) men approach friendship is that men can be themselves, be free, be honest, be harsh around their friends, whereas women tend to wear a mask, to try to keep up appearences, constantly judging and jockying for social position and manipulating (note that I don't use judging or manipulating in a negative sense, it's just a tool that socially active people use, for good or for ill, depends on the person).

>>18200328
Get em a chill pill brah :^]
But really it'll pass, with time..

I was super racist around 28-29 or so, on /pol/ bitching about a lot of things.

got older, started reading the bible, felt less hate, eventually started changing for the better. 31 now I feel better.

think of it as an emo or goth phase. eventually ppl settle down (most ppl?) you don't have the same energy level and realize frustration is killing you, very literally.

Best to stay away from politics all together really.

>>18200408
Yeah, I think this is mostly true. My best friend is a girl, and basically "one of the guys" friendship with her, but most girls are not like her at all. She's a rarity.

>>18200408
Oh anon I really hope this isn't true, because if you're right, women just straight up don't really have friends, they have some friendly acquaintances.

>>18200219
sounds like you just have a bad taste in guys.

>>18199400
Cumplay. Assplay. Gentle femdom. A bit of rough sex with him being a dom. Public stuff. Impregnation. Threesomes (but would never be able to do it IRL because the idea of having sex with a stranger sickens me).

>>18200408
I don't think you understand how friendship between girls is.

Premise: I was a tomboy as a child. I never had a female friend till I hit puberty. I had to learn how to socialise with girls when I was 13 because before that I basically never talked to a girl.

I am myself with my friends, both with guys and with girls. I don't keep up apparences, have a mask or anything. I show them who I am in the same way I do with my boyfriend or my male friends.

But there are two big differences between males and females that come into account when it comes to friendship.
First: women are better at social thinking & interactions than men, while men are more abstract and task-orientated. Which means that with my friend Jenny (who shares a lot of my interests and is very smart) often end up talking about what Britney from high school did, while with my friend Timmy I will probably end up joking around, talking about the thing we're doing in that moment, or about our common interests. We also care about what other people think more.
Second: women are more emotional, and more explicit with their emotions; men treat emotions like an inconvenience. Which means that a lot of discussions between girls are about feelings, while guys tend to avoid it. And also means that women tend to keep each other's feelings in consideration when they talk, so they're less harsh to each other.

>>18200254
/pol/, anime