Ask the opposite gender anything

>>18196783
Weirdos and losers ask girls: the thread

>>18196884
What's wrong with people trying to understand the opposite sex a little better?

So whats the best and most tactful way to deal with his issues staying hard?

I can tell it's a touchy subject, he feels embarrassed by it, so I don't want to rub salt in his wounds or anything.
Should I just ignore it or not acknowledge it?
And uh, what should I do with a limp penis? I don't care about penetration so I'm not disappointed or anything. Just wanting to know how to keep the fun up in bed when even oral doesn't get a wiggle.
I just kind of feel like our sex is so one sided and I feel guilty I guess. I'd like to do more for him but I'm afraid to even bring it up an have the conversation because I don't know if that would just kill his self esteem more or what.

>>18196889
>implying this is the average content of the thread

Face it, is always some bitter creep who got bullied in hs asking: BOO HOO, I'M A Spineless boring weirdo how to be normal.

Some people aren't normal, that's a fact. And the more you try, the more I cringe. Just stop, you're a fuck up. People should enforce this more

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Last Semester my study buddy (girl) said we should hang out. I never took her up on that offer, mainly because I had a bad confession with another girl. She has dropped comments over the semester such as on valentines day

>No one ever given me a rose before

She is a beautiful girl, but I don't think I can commit to my feelings. Right now it just fleeting lust.

Also I've failed at several confessions, with each time I became a better person, better standing, better behavior, better future prospects. But each time I always get a NO.

I know I need to love myself, before I love another person. Right now the best way I'm dealing with my negative feelings is through catharsis, I pump it all into self-improvement but I don't know how long it will last...

>>18196900
Staying eager and making him feel sexy and desired even when he has an issue is probably the best bet.

>>18196901
People just want to connect with other people man, it's okay if some people need help figuring out how to do that

>>18196901
So are you saying weirdos should not try to do anything about it? How is that a good idea?

>>18196900
Dump him

If he fails in bed once I usually give the guy a silent treatment for a month. If he repeats I just break up. Maybe spread a few rumors if I was particularly horny at the time, I mean, this is just unacceptable in an adult relationship.

>>18196901
Please define normal. I'll wait...

Girls: how would you feel if you started dating a guy and found out that he had had an FFM threesome with his ex girlfriend? Do you think there's a risk a girl might find it repulsive and/or intimidating?

I'm seeing a girl now and I really like her; sexual history hasn't come up yet but I don't want to be dishonest if it does, and I also worry that it could be worse if she finds out years down the line that it happened.

FWIW the threesome went perfectly and it was one of the best experiences I've ever had, but I know I should probably keep my mouth shut about that dimension.

>>18196913
I'm sorry for the woman, or women, in your life who hurt you.

>>18196915
Did you have the threesome when she was your ex, or when you were still together?

>>18196919
she was my girlfriend at the time, haven't done anything with her since the breakup about 6 months ago

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>>18196913

Femnons:

I'm pretty autistic (not actually just awful social skills) and in college. I know I'm good looking (at least a 7) and I dress well but I literally have no idea how to approach a girl.

What are some non-abrasive ways you can initiate conversation with a girl? I am confident when I talk to girls at their job because it gives me an excuse to ask them something, but on campus I literally have no idea what to do.

>>18196905
Soo I should not mention it unless he talks about it first?

>>18196912
Yes that's exactly what in saying. As a girl who was been asked out by professional soccer players (and refused), it's just funny and sad when one of you think you are just allowed to talk you me. You had every opportunity to socialize and become normal trough life.if you didn't you are most likely a risk to others and honestly, and eye sore

>>18196929
More or less, but you can subtly hint at the fact that it doesn't bother you at all.

>>18196919
Virgin

>>18196923
Okay good, if you'd done the threesome with your ex while she was your ex, that would be a red flag for me.

As for general advice, I would say that it's always good to be honest about your sexual past if you're asked about it. That being said, I imagine that telling chicks about your threesome will drive some away. Some people have different boundaries than others, and knowing that you did a threesome in the past might make them feel like you might want to have a threesome with them and another chick in the future. Some might be cool with that, some might not be. But still, always be honest

>>18196935
Just because you haven't had sex doesn't mean you can't be hurt by women. I'm sorry for the pain and anger you may feel.

>>18196925
See
>>18196931

Just don't

Seriously

Girls:

One a scale from 1 to 10 (1 = not at all, 10 = profoundly and constantly) How insecure would you rate yourself?

Then on a scale from from 1 to 10 (1 = fugly, 10 = model hot) how would you rate your looks?

>>18196901
>>18196912
>>18196931


As a "creep" I actually agree with the sentiment.

Know your place in the world.
I tried changing too many times to know that it just isn't going to happen.

Fighting an unwinnable battle is pointless.

Just mind your own business and hope everyone else minds theirs.

Who knows, maybe one day we'll see the day when women are forced to make the first move because they deterred all men. One day maybe they'll be the creeps.

Until that happens, better off just leaving it all alone.

>>18196942
7 or 8 out of 10 on insecurity, and that's an improvement after years of work
5 out of 10 on looks. Got some decent features, have a gross nose, it all kinda balances out in my opinion

>>18196931
Well as a girl and a weirdo, I think it's fine. I had to learn some social stuff pretty late too. You sound like a bitch though, so I don't think they're missing out on not being allowed to talk to you

>>18196931
probably these types of fellas

>>18196937
not looking to brag about it or be forward about the subject. it was a great experience but I'd feel tacky parading the fact around like a trophy. but i wonder if most girls would hate knowing that.

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forgot picture

>>18196939
because the truth hurts I must be a guy. See what I mean? You are deluded and dangerous Keep to yourself and I won't call the cops. I know the truth hurts, but you'll be much happier once you realize you don't belong in our world. Give up

>>18196943
See some creeps know their place. Although his views is way too romantic for someone in his position

I'm going to move out to another city in a few weeks. No family or friends over there, practically starting life again from zero.

What should I do to build a new circle of friends? I mean literally what should I do because knowing myself, I'll probably stay shut in my rented room unless I REALLY have to go out i.e to work. Where should I go? What sort of places makes it easy to meet new people?

>>18196956
As someone who wouldn't be comfortable having a threesome, I would always wonder if you were dying to bring another woman (especially another specific woman) into the relationship. I would feel sad that I wouldn't be able to fulfill that fetish, and I would feel insecure that you would try to fulfill it anyways behind my back. Just my personal feelings though, there are plenty of girls who don't mind and even encourage threesomes, FFM and MMF.

You should probably be honest about it if the subject comes up. Idk if you mean "being forward" as in being honest, but it's always a good idea to communicate as openly as possible

>>18196961
People have different experiences, which makes it impossible to boil certain things of life into absolute truths. It makes me sad that your personal truth is that guys who don't act to your standards don't deserve love or connection. I feel like you're harboring a lot of pain from your past. It's a heavy burden and I wish I could lift it.

>>18196915
I wouldn't care.

>>18196952
>hambeast says she likes weirdos

Once me and my other friends invited a girl just like you to a sleepover. When she fell asleep qe cut her hair to look like the creep in our class, took pics and created a fake fb profile for the couple... needless to say, both learned their place. The girl moved to other school the following week

>>18196942
>One a scale from 1 to 10 (1 = not at all, 10 = profoundly and constantly) How insecure would you rate yourself?
8 or 9
>Then on a scale from from 1 to 10 (1 = fugly, 10 = model hot) how would you rate your looks
Probably like a 7.

I'm insecure about who I am, and if I'll ever have friends or a bf or gf. Not so much about my looks.

>>18196978
I'm sorry you were hurt so much throughout your life that it bubbled over into you hurting others. There's probably a lot of pain hiding under your disgust of what you see as weirdos.

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>>18196783
Girls, what are some key reasons you don't like guys?

So, there's a girl I like. We have kissed once and hung out a few times with common friends (only see her on those occasions). I feel the need to tell her how I feel, but we're always seeing each other when we are hanging out with other friends, and it always seems like an awful situation to bring it up. On top of it she's a free spirit, like she's fucking floating through existence in the loveliest way possible without getting attached to anything. My guess is she would never want to engage in a relationship and I don't even know if she likes me, but there was this one time a few days ago where we were out on the street and I was cross faded as fuck, and she and a friend of mine took care of me. It reignited my thing for her. I feel like I should do something about it, but I don't know what or how. I can't see myself just asking her to a date and I can't see myself getting involved with her on the rare occasions we see each other while hanging out.

>>18196987
Our jewish masters told us that you're all evil so we had to obey.

>>18196987
Why are you asking? Are you worried that you'll match some of those reasons?

>>18196974
Go back in time and become something worth loving then we'll talk. There is no excuse for being a weirdo. If you were one it's your own darn fault. Should have been stronger ( Ya know, Like people worth a damn). Instead you choose to be a shy pushy little victim. We liked to make you pukes cry

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>>18196931
Even though I know this is shitposting, I feel its quite accurate to my life.
I am a weird, retarded idiot who's unable to bond with people. Girls take advantage of how nice I am, and I end up depressed and suicidal because of it. I try to be "normal" but as you said, I'm just a weird. I should just kill myself at this point.

>>18196989
Think about the kind of person you want to be. Do you want to be the kind of person who lets fear keep them from possibly experiencing happiness and a meaningful relationship? Or the kind of person who acknowledges they are afraid but realizes at least trying to have a relationship is better than not trying and forever wondering "what if"?

>>18196994
I'm sorry you had to be strong to survive in your world. It makes me sad that your past led you to have such strict views on people. I wish you could let go of your pain so that you could give yourself the chance to connect and be vulnerable with people.

>>18196991
I'm just tired of always being rejected and want to know what other girls dislike to find a common denominator and stop it.

>>18196987
I don't like men who are
>entitled
>manwhores
>arrogant
>stupid
>misogynist (kinda obvious)
>only care about lifting or cars or sports-I don't inherently dislike these people, live and let live, but I'd never date one
>cruel
>bullying
>narcissistic
>crude and vulgar
>cheaters
Basically I dislike Chads. Bite me.

>>18197001
That's a tricky question to answer because there's so much variation in what turns girls off. Then, there's the issue of one of the turn-offs possibly being some aspect of your personality. Are you going to change who you are to impress a girl? Should you change who you are to impress a girl?

>>18196942
>One a scale from 1 to 10 (1 = not at all, 10 = profoundly and constantly) How insecure would you rate yourself?
5
I have good days, I have bad days, it all depends.

>Then on a scale from from 1 to 10 (1 = fugly, 10 = model hot) how would you rate your looks?
I'm not sure how would I rate myself, but according to what people say about me I'd say a solid 8.

>>18196987
Are you asking why I wouldn't like men in general or why would I dislike a guy in particular?

>>18197004

>"I don't like misogynists."
>Proceeds to describe the men she doesn't like as "Chads", indicating she spends far too much time lurking /r9k/.

Mate...

>>18197005
If its something I would consider important (Such as my religious belief, my love for video games, my dog.), I would not change that because in my opinion that girl is not worth a damn if she's unable to accept those things who define who I am, she's not worth keeping.
However, if its something small (Like how fast I drive, how I drink certain shit, how I'm overweight.) I wouldn't mind dropping it or stopping it altogether. It may be beneficial for me in thr long run anyway.

>>18197006
Why you wouldn't lime a meb in general, but feel free to answer both; it would be nice.

>>18197010
I wasn't being serious. Chad is a thing thrown around this whole site, and I was pointing out to all those men who are like "waaah women only like Chads" that I'd basically described this "Chad".

I wasn't using the term seriously.

>>18197012
>Such as my religious belief, my love for video games
You're one of -those guys- aren't you. You want a pure virgin waifu too?

Honestly being part of the conservative neet social strata is a surefire way to NOT find a girlfriend.

>>18196999
Maybe that's because it's true? Not every unpopular opinion is shitposting. Even tough this is an anonymous image board, you are still psychologically compelled to say the most acceptable thing, it's just human nature. I've already shared the sleepover story with you guys, right? If I talked in such crude, brute terms to to the girls with me that night they would be HORRIFIED. You know why? Most of us are hypocrites. We think like that but 8 out of 10 of us can't admit it.

>>18197001
> insensitive
> egoistical
> cheater
> controlling
These are all traits I can't tolerate. I come off a cold but underneath all, I'm a sensitive person and a man that is emotionally distant would hurt me a lot. Also I can't stand egoistical men, I also want to share some of my own world with them and it would hurt me to see that they only care about themselves. And last, I'm very independent and can't stand being bossed around, so I wouldn't be able to be with someone who always wants to have control. The last one is self-explanatory.

>>18197012
>However, if its something small (Like how fast I drive, how I drink certain shit, how I'm overweight.) I wouldn't mind dropping it or stopping it altogether.
If it's about that.... I can't stand smoke. I hate cigarettes and that awful smell. I once liked a cute guy but dropped it when I found he smoked. Also I dislike messy guys that don't know how to clean after themselves.

>>18197012
Wellll I know you asked for dislikes but I'll tell you what I do like in a guy:

Physical attraction: This doesn't mean that I have to think the guy is the hottest creature I've ever met. I just want to find him physically attractive. Even if you're insecure about your looks, chemistry can greatly enhance someone's physical attractiveness.

Things in common: Many say opposites attract, but I'm not so sure. I want a guy whose world is similar to mine (so like someone who appreciates dank memes, vidya, likes animals). If I have nothing in common with the guy, there's not a whole lot to talk about.

Good Conversation: Many people can talk for hours while only staying on shallow subjects. I want to go deeper. I want to know how the guy feels about human cloning, or if he thinks the world is a simulation. I don't want to have arguments about who's got the right opinion, I just want to have discussions.

Good Person: This one's harder to describe. Empathetic, kind, understanding, treats people respectfully

>>18196900
get him a penis enlargement pump and some viagra.

shit'll have you queefin brah

>>18197027
Would you like him to come in shining armor and with suggar on top too?

>>18197032
>Physical attraction: This doesn't mean that I have to think the guy is the hottest creature I've ever met. I just want to find him physically attractive. Even if you're insecure about your looks, chemistry can greatly enhance someone's physical attractiveness.

Okay, different stroked for different folks, some girls might like me.

>Things in common: Many say opposites attract, but I'm not so sure. I want a guy whose world is similar to mine (so like someone who appreciates dank memes, vidya, likes animals). If I have nothing in common with the guy, there's not a whole lot to talk about.

Yes, Vidya and animals are the tits, that's me.

>Good Conversation: Many people can talk for hours while only staying on shallow subjects. I want to go deeper. I want to know how the guy feels about human cloning, or if he thinks the world is a simulation. I don't want to have arguments about who's got the right opinion, I just want to have discussions.

Goddamnnit.
Can't we just talk about the weather and/or greet each other with a quick nod of the head.

>Good Person: This one's harder to describe. Empathetic, kind, understanding, treats people respectfully

I already lost...

>>18197040
>Can't we just talk about the weather and/or greet each other with a quick nod of the head.
Oh I thought your question was more about turn offs when dating guys or getting to know guys. Shallower subjects are fine at first, but if you never go beyond, I'll get bored. But that's just me.

>I already lost...
What makes you say that?

>>18197017
I wouldn't say a pure virgin waifu. I mean don't get me wrong, it is mostly true that I would prefer a virgin over someone who already had sex.
I just want someone who isn't "playing around" having sex with 20 men and making out with all of them at every party. Similarly to how I am.

>>18197032
You described me there, for the exception of physical attraction (I'm not overly ugly, per se, but I'm overweight.) And good conversations (I mean there are times I can have good convos, but I'm so awkward/misinformed of the topics I won't be able to hold convos as well.)

>>18197017
Liking videogames isn't all that bad, unless you let the whole gamuurrr thing go over you head.

>>18197047
>I just want someone who isn't "playing around" having sex with 20 men and making out with all of them at every party.
You should stop thinking in extremes. The world isn't divided between pure virgins and thirsty prostitutes.

>>18197017
>>18197047
Also I wouldn't considee myself conservative. I do have cons. Ideals but I feel more liberal. (Except I don't want to associate myself with the liberals being retarded all the times, so I just say neither.)

>>18197052
I way I see it, if you had sex 20 times, but with X (x being not me) I'd think its alright.
My problem Is when you had sex 20 times with 20 different people. I'd feel a bit weird with someone like that.

>>18197059
>My problem Is when you had sex 20 times with 20 different people.
While I'm sure such cases exist, this is not the norm and you'll likely won't find someone like that so easily. And even if you did, what's the worst that can happen? Surely you'll walk away before getting involved with someone like that, or if you somehow fell in love with someone like that, your love for that person will either make you not care and love them anyways, or break up and find someone else, and life will go on.

Chill and stop being so paranoid.

>>18197059
Dude, you are a CREEP
My advice would be online dating. Hold yourself until you can get someone to agree to a face to face date, but please don't talk to girls around you. No one should be forced to interact with someone on that level

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Girls and guys

What's the point of having a relationship with someone if it will just die off eventually?

I just watched comedian Lewis CK talk about it, and it makes so much sense. He described how a relationship is like when someone makes one of those water bubbles. They make a really big awesome bubble and it lingers for a few moments before it goes away. You get upset. And try again until it happens all over again.

What's the point? Of going through pain for a brief period of maybe some joy?

>>18197103
Why do anything at all if you're just going to die someday. Why not bash your head in right now? Thinking that if something isn't immortal it isn't worth anything is a pretty shitty mindset.

Girls, what's your pussy's flavor? The girl from the previous thread said her pussy is like mayo.
>inb4 strawberry, pineapple

>>18196783
Are there any girls who would be willing to play my type of computer games with me(military RTS, fligh simulators)?

>>18197124
Loser

>>18197103
>>18197113
My mistake, I thought you meant if one of you was going to eventually physically die. Not all relationships end like that. Quite a few do last until one of you dies. And even if things don't last that long you'll either have some very happy memories of the time you had together, some learning experiences and personal growth, or both.

>>18197113

It's different.

I could enjoy a really good slice of pizza, that's it. But with a girlfriend, we could have a wonderful few months of years together, invest lots of time. Just to know it will fade eventually. Then go through a really depressing time to get over everything. Just to start over again to get hurt once again.

Love x time - distance = hate

>>18197129

>And even if things don't last that long you'll either have some very happy memories of the time you had togethe

I want to explore that statement. So even when you're in a new relationship, you'll still think back on the memories you shared with your previous partner?

>>18197127
Why?

>>18197134
Yesterday's

>>18197124
I like RTS okay (mostly Warhammer and Age of Empires or Mythology) but I really like adventure games and turn based strategy and RPGS. I'm not into simulators.

>>18197140

What?

>>18197134
Why wouldn't you? If you're still in love with your previous partner there may still be some issues, but you presumably spent a lot of time with your previous partner and it changed you as a person, for good or bad.

>>18197142
I would be willing to try out a girl's games but not if she shits on my gaming tastes.

Weirdos and creeps in this thread so far:
>>18196912
>>18196904
>>18196925
>>18196942
>>18196943
>>18196952
>>18196989
>>18196999
>>18197000
>>18197001
>>18197012
>>18197035

>>18197151
And vice versa with me. I mostly like Obsidian games, Morrowind or Pillars of Eternity. I also like Okami, Zelda, Final Fantasy etc.

>>18197149

But isn't that where comparisons between your old and new partner start to come into play?

Maybe you liked how your old partner would cuddle with you more than your new one. So that experience you are sharing with your new partner is not as valuable as your previous.

Where does anything have any meaning?

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I was drinking for four days straight without going sober, and after the 24 hours since I had consumed alcohol last time I took the pills, paracetamol. Did I fuck up?

>>18196783


What's the best way to approach you at a bar? Especially if you're with friends (most likely situation). I usually will get looks every now and then or will have a girl smile at me but I really don't know how to really throw that first line.


And no I'm not some retarded neckbeard I just got out of a marriage after being with my wife for the past 7 years and I'm 27 so literally my whole 20s instead of you know doing what most single people do I've been in a relationship so it's like I gotta go at this shit fresh again.

>>18197154
It's pretty weird and creepy to stalk them too.

>>18197138
Because we don't like this crap. Bringing it up is just weird, especially if it includes some super nerd acronym.

>>18197177
Why'd you marry so young?

Also, I wouldnt advise approaching girls in packs. It's dangerous.

>>18197178
Hun, please, as if a slob would know what it's like to be stalked. I bet half the stalkers I had were blobs of "nice guys" like you.

>>18197083
>>18197067
Eh, I should probably point out I don't really go out of my way asking a girl "Lol have you had sex?"
When I'm interested in girls, its the kind I just happen to meet in college or whatever.
But if I were to choose the "girl of my dreams" or whatever I'd prefer someone who's not super crazy about sex (which I've met and I'm friends with.) but it's not a constant fear or anything.

>>18197154
Honestly I just want to jump off my window reading this. I already know I can be a creep at times, don't need to hit my face with it when I honestly just want to improve.

>>18197195
Nigga, relax.

>>18197184
Just because you spend your whole time on normie book talking about Chads abs, not worrying about a thing because you have a hole that guarantees your food doesn't mean everyone is as shallow

>>18197184
Why should I give a shit what random cunts like? Im not going to your level.

>>18197156
Im willing to try warhammer games, but I prefer warhammer 40K as universe. I don't have much experience with RPGs.

>>18197211
>getting triggered already

>>18197215
Whatever. If you want to keep playing your little game, by all means, just go ahead.
Just don't come crying back and asking for advice when you creep out every single girl you meet

>>18197211
Aaand there you have it.
Everyone who claims to be a lonley "nice guy" is just a little creepy psycho.

DON'T. TALK. TO GIRLS.
just don't. Save us the nausea

>>18197188

I married at 25 not really that young.

>>18197184
Listen, don't talk about 'we' like you know all girls. I'm>>18197142
I like video games. No, I'm not a "gamr grill XD". I just like them. I know what the acronym means etc.

>>18197230
>I have a pussy so I have the right to be an arrogant bitch

kys.

>>18197243
So you were with a girl from 20 onwards? Sorry, the way you worded it implied you'd been married for seven years.

>>18197230
He wasn't even creepy though. He just asked whether girls would play certain video games with him, which certain girls would. Don't be such a cunt (and I'm a girl, not a butthurt virgin).

>>18196783
>check thread
> mean psycho bitches confirming my worst suspicions
> not a single girl disagrees

Is there no way out? Should i just kill myself /adv/? I'm not even that creepy, I just had a rough childhood...

>>18197249


Yeah 20-27 we were together and I was with a girl right before that as well (typical young people way of through friends) so like I've never gotten to 'wet' my feet in bar dating and shit so now that I'm actually at the bar every week with my friend drinking and shit I don't really know what to do I'm not afraid of rejection I just don't want to do something stupid.

>>18197254
There's a couple of nice girls. Which ones are you looking at?

Who are you anyway? Like, which is your post?

>>18197246
I mean, there is always the reject Loser girl, but they are rare. Besides, I think he wanted a chance with normal people.

>>18197256
Honestly I'd advise not going to bars for girls, unless you want casual sex. If you want a girlfriend, go to groups associated with your hobbies.

>>18197254
>one girl attacks gaymer fag
>two defend him
"Dem mean ass hoes, time to off myself!"

>>18197251
Talking about video games is creepy already, unless you are surrounded exclusively by other nerds.
But if I can hear you? Yeah its creepy. Can't you talk about this stuff in private?

>>18197258
I'm not a loser. I just happen to like video games as well as a lot of other things, like playing music and reading and philosophy and history and making clothes.

God, why are you such a bitch? Do you only come here to shit on other people?

>>18197262
Not him and not a gaymer but how the fuck is talking about a hobby, even if it's such a dumb one creepy? Do you find talking about GoT creepy too?

>>18197254
Yes please, no girl should have to bear your victim mentality and bawling. Maybe you are alone for a reason.

>>18197262
No, it's not. Pretty much all men play some games, even if it's just COD. You're just a judgemental butch.

>>18197267
Kinda, but since it's a TV show its at least I the realm of acceptable. It's still about dragons and goblins and such, so if I knew so.eone who watched this, I wouldn't flat out ignore them, but I would least keep the conversation as short and impersonal as possible.

>>18197270
Try hanging out with people other than losers, maybe? If they would even look at your sad ass, I mean

>>18197275
So what do you like to talk about then? What is acceptable for a man to talk about?

>>18197277
I'm not her, but why do you have to get so pissy about other people enjoying things?

What do you enjoy?

girls, out of these two options, which addition should i make to my shrine of darkness. something thats either A) darth vader themed or B) palpatine themed.

>>18197270
I don't think man playing video games is weird by itself,although playing anything that needs more investment than cod or maybe skyrim is kind of a redflag..

>>18197283
I mean, unless you like video games.

>>18197275
>but since it's a TV show its at least I the realm of acceptable
Because? Vidya is a huge industry beyond manchildren in their basements. A good chunk of guys and gals in your age group have at least moderate interest in that shit.

> It's still about dragons and goblins and suc
Hardly more unrealistic than a brainlet who hooks up with a S&M obsessed millionaire.

>I would least keep the conversation as short and impersonal as possible
Which is perfectly reasonably, people who drone on about media are socially retarded either way. Just the overreaction about one idiotic form of entertainment over another that is just as silly makes no sense.

>>18197282
Why not both?

>>18197282
>a childish butthurt idiot who turns into lapdog
>the guy who fucked the galaxy harder than Trump did US of A
How is this even a choice?

>>18197299
i will eventually but im talking like right now. i can only do one

>>18197280
I'm just telling the truth, love. Socializing is not for everyone, and I'm almost sorry if you are not cut for it, but please give up. Almost half the time I go out in have to look at some creeps standing in the corner white that lame expression of dumb terror on their faces. Spare us the embarrassment.

>>18197306
that sounds like a really biased response but ill see what the other anon has to say

>>18197308
You didn't answer the question. What do you enjoy?

>>18197311
I'm >>18197299

Honestly, it's a choice between aesthetic (Vader) or badassery (Palpatine).

>>18197308
You know what, I agree with . >>18197312
If you don't actually answer about what you like and don't stop spewing all these meme-y bitch responses, I think we should all assume you're a troll.

>>18197295
Oh boy, an angry virgin rant...

I don't care how many creeps buy your boy toys, the mere fact that you play/watch this fairy tale crap as a fucking ADULT MAN shows you are emotionally immature and probably super creepy. My friend once broke up with her three months bdark when she found out he had about 200$ worth of games, and I don't blame her. Shame though, he had a juice beach house.

>>18197323
What do you like? What are your interests? All you've done is shit on other people. Answer damn it, or you're just a troll.

well shit i guess its palpy then i already found a good pic thanks for the input

>>18197323
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>>18197184
Are you a troll? Girls like this do exist, sure. But they don't go on 4chan.

>>18197325
>he had a juice beach house
Is that not enough of a giveaway for you? It's just some r9k neckbeard roleplaying his idea of how wimin act.

I'm seriously starting to get desperate for an nerdy virgin gf but I've never had a gf before and have horrible anxiety. I already look good and work out/eat well. Now I want to fix my social skills. Where are some actual real places aside from uni o can do this?

>>18197334
Dude, you won't get a virgin. Even nerds have had sex you know.

>>18197325
Are you so out of touch with normal people that you don't know what is socially acceptable?
I go to college, the mall, gym, jogging(just to pick up guys), buy clothes, chat with my gal friends, sex (it's what normal people do instead of masturbating),Facebook, hairdressing, going out for drinks, post on Instagram. ... are you still on denial or are you ready to admit to yourself that you are a creep?

>>18197335
I seriously don't need the negativity right now. For my own sanity I'm believing there are some.

>>18197335
It's not that hard to find a virgin, but the mindstate that makes one care about shit like that usually guarantees that no girl will be interested, virgin or not.

>>18197349
Subtlety, motherfucker. Learn it.

>>18197352
I will seriously hide it. Once I know she is I'll never bring it up.

>>18197331
OR maybe the autocorect fucked up? Because I use a cell phone like normal people, not a computer In my mother's basement?

>>18197154
It was a joke... no more jokes I guess..

>>18197351
Even if you find one, the kind of man who only wants a virgin (outside of religious people) is a guaranteed turn off for most girls, because to them it seems like you don't actually want them for them.

>>18197355
If you had the ability to hide it, you wouldn't be in your current position. Virgin waifu fags are simply too easy to spot.

>>18197355
So you'll go out and date and keep going till you get to the "have you done it before" stage? That takes ages. Why not just find a girl who's not a slut, but has had like, one or two exes or something. Plenty of them around.

>>18197356
>not sitting in Starbucks with an iPad Pro
It's like you're a creep or something.

>>18197374
Like you nerds do? No thanks

>>18197366
It's not that, but I can't handle knowing she's been with others. I also want it to be special. Seriously why can't i have this? I don't care if I end up in a sexless relationship either.
>>18197368
I can, if I know she is I would be fine and never say anything.
>>18197373
I can't cope with it, just the thought legitimately makes me want to vomit.

>>18197349
Dude, girls like that don't go on 4chan. You're such an obvious roleplayer it hurts.

Oh and >jogging(just to pick up guys)
Is a dead give away.

I have a friend who is a chick in my college social circle. She is probably my best friend, but she hates all of my other friends and sometimes seems to be angry at me for no real reason. Recently, I brought a new person into my group who is very flirty with her. Around him she seems to reciprocate, but when we are alone she does not seem to like him. She REALLY does not seem to like him and she says that he makes her uncomfortable. This new guy has begun to get on my nerves, and I am ready to see him go. However, he continues to flirt with her and her responses seem to be what is keeping him around more than anything I am doing. Do you guys think that she likes him or not? I was a loser in high school who did not know any girls, so I don't know how to read her at all.

>>18197382
Well, your insecurity will definitely make you unpopular with women.

Men with this attitude don't get anyone interested, virgin or not.

>>18197382
I seriously can't see how anyone would find you attractive. But if you really want to get a gf , just stop with the needy video games. And stop talking about politics, it's annoying, boring, and people usually don't care

>>18197349
Wow do you sound boring, if you're not trolling (which is super likely). Why does social normalcy make something good anyway?

I have a band, and a great circle of friends that are interested in books, film, music etc. I also have a bf who I talk about history and politics as well as films and stuff with.

Why should one bother with that range of vapid, asinine interests if you can be happy and fulfilled with other hobbies?

>>18197387
I've actually gotten dates despite my terrible social skills.
>>18197389
I never mentioned those, and again I want to know where I can meet them, believe it or not I'm not really insecure about anything else so hiding it isn't hard.

>>18197383
Whatever makes you fell between about yourself, I supose

>>18197394
Well why didnt' they work out?

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I got a situation. would like fem anons to answer, or men that have been in a similar situation.

I want to date a girl, but this girl is best friends with a super old, really good friend of mine (girl)

My old friend, just went through a thing where two people she put together broke up, and it destroyed a friendship she had for longer than ours.

A few nights ago, my old friend was teasing me about this new friend, asked if i minded if she was there when we hung out and i said it didn't bother me, i also told her that i have a bit of a thing for her. She didn't respond so i responded with something along the lines of "but i wouldn't act on that, due to what happened (with her other friends)"

Thing is ive never felt this way for a girl, when ever i think about her its like my stomach is a bottomless pit and i cant concentrate.

I think if i asked her out, she would say yes, but at the same time shes the type of person that would say no due to what happened with her best friend.

I feel like if i ask her now, or even tell her my feelings i would be betraying the trust of my ld friend, but i really like this girl.

What should i do?

>>18197395
Dude, stop roleplaying. You've been found out.

>>18197396
I just didn't like them, not my type at all after talking enough. One was actually a virgin, but that was in high school.

>>18197393
Wow you know how to sound smart. Do you know how to get a good looking bf too? OopsI'm sorry

>>18197394
>Belive it or not I'm not insecure

I don't, but you should be

>>18197406
Listen sister, you and I would certainly have different views of what's attractive, but I have exactly the kind of quiet, dark haired intellectual looking guy I like.

>>18197405
Have you had any dates recently? Also, think about it. Nerdy girls like male dominated hobbies. They can get boyfriend REALLY easily.

>>18197409
Thanks for the help man, glad I took the time to explain anything.

>>18197405
Join a pedophilia network, lots of virgins up for auction.

Or, if you're lucky some of the young trafficked girls are still virgins, just go into an underground brothel and get them to inform you when there are any nice virgin girls, its more expensive but if that's what's you're into anon, that's the best way

>>18197411
Yes , I find attractive attractive, I don't have to pretend my slob of a bf is cute. But I don't judge you,if I were an insecure Virgin by 20 I would probably have a breakdown and redefine what I find hot too.

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I feel extreme fear of women, I have never had any intimate relationship with female, beyond "speaking if necessary". As far as I can remember I have always been paranoid about that, I have been laughed at for having no experience when I brought it up, friend once asked me why didn't I even try, told me that he's kind of worried, I change the topic. I tried and what I get is laugh and pure embarrassment. Once it happened that topic of relationships came up and I left immediately, in most weird way possible. Sometimes
it feels most people are feeling my fear and try to poke and reveal it as soon as possible, this has happened countless of times.

I tried to address my fear and reason I do experience that is my deep believe that no woman would find me worthy, nobody would see me as a "man". I do talk with women as I would have talked with a male friends, yet this whole thing bothers me so much. Even if I recognize it as a friendly banter I tend to drift away from the person, not being able to answer, I freeze, being silent.

What do I do?

>>18197415
No, I went through a period where I barely met any girls. And I know they can get guys easy, that's why it's so hard, even if I'm better than other guys there's still not many single girls.
>>18197418
Can't actually tell if you're fucking with me or not. Either way I'm not into that.

>>18197419
Do you honestly think you're fooling anyone?

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Ladies, can boring text game kill a spark?

Met a girl last night and had a great time, we both dug each other and arranged to meet up again on Sat for a short spit, but my text game is utter shite and now our convo is going nowhere. Am I facing an imminent flake out?

>>18197416
Cute defense mechanism
All losers have one

>>18197419
So what are you attracted to then? Because women like a variety of things. You know, thus far you're either a self obsessed, asinine cow or a sad loser roleplaying as a self obsessed asinine cow.

>>18197427
There's no better way to respond. You don't believe me so what I say is irrelevant. I just don't see why you bother responding just to be annoying.

>>18197420
Maybe dating is not for you?
A lot of man live their lives alone with their games and are happy. Don't you think this is better than the humiliation of being turned down by every girl and being laughed at?

>>18197420
cont.

>>18197419
Even this post says being a virgin and having no experience is shameful. I feel defective.

>>18197420
Look, most girls are just as scared of dating etc. as men. Once you realise they're just as shy, nervous and insecure as you are (I mean unless you're going after a 10/10 basic bitch) it's a lot easier to talk to them.

>>18197420
Those aren't very good friends.

Just distance yourself and put yourself in a position in which you can focus on yourself. Less focus on insecurities, more focus on self improvement.

>>18197423
Not fucking with you, but i could still help.

You said outside a uni, so you still go to uni?

There are heaps of chicks at uni that are still virgins, even some that are in those popular groups that you would never guess.

It's kind of seen as a weird kink, that would turn most girls off, thus i recommended the underground shit.

Just go to parties and start talking, when people are that drunk, if you ask them if they
re a virgin most of the time they will answer it provided you've been talking to them for a bit, just keep doing that until you find one and then ask her out the next day or something

>>18197436
>10/10 basic bitch
There is nothing basic about a 10/10. Also they are often much nicer than ugly or average chicks because they aren't bitter about their looks and often lonely since even Chads are too scared to approach them.

>>18197432
Keeping you clockbombs from beating women out of frustration is a god enough reason for you? Or should I just let you losers delve into your victim fantasies untill you fell justified enough to beat me if I reject you?

>>18197416
Look, my honest advice to you is to really work on the root cause of your disgust with dating a non virgin, and assess whether or not your desire for a virgin outweighs your desire for a girlfriend you really connect with.

A girl having dated one or two guys shouldn't be a big deal. Are you yourself a virgin? Is that where the fear is coming from?

If the virgin is more important, then you have to accept you will have to wait a while or not find one at all, as the older you get (how old are you anyway?) the less likely it is that you'll find a virgin.

If your desire for a loving companion is more important, start addressing your issues with the idea of a girl having a previous boyfriend or two.

>>18197426
I suck at texting too. So I wouldn't judge it.

>>18197435
M8 , you are not fooling anyone ,go back to /r9k/plz

>>18197442
Basic bitch is a personality type and interest grouping, not an indicator of appearance. Ugly girls can be basic, and so can 10/10s. Are you really that thick?

>>18197442
That's not true. Often 10/10s are arrogant and bitchy and entitled. Often average girls are kind.

Besides the original comment was about insecurity, not niceness.

>>18197436
Yes, but in dating men are the ones expected to ask, expected to choose where the date will be and expected to pretty much treat the girl like she's an infant and organize the entire date. Some guys like this, but fuck, most don't.

Dream girl would just be a woman that chooses where we go on a date, id insta marry that shit.

>>18197449
Found the hambeast

>>18197457
What they said is true though? I'm not them, but Basic Bitch is generally taken as a kind of girl, not an attractiveness indicator.

>>18197458
....And the hamlord

Hey, to that person roleplaying as a basic bitch, can you just stop please? It's pointless. You're obvious. Everyone can see you're a troll.

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>>18197419
Samefag, don't reply

>>18197461
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>>18197449
Either you're really thick, or you're that roleplaying /r9k/ loser.

>>18197440
No offense... but you do realize you're kind of a sociopath?
I'm not really the type to party, but I suppose a similar approach might not be horrible just to get a vague idea.
>>18197443
I said it disgusts me, but I'm aware I'm the one with the problem and would never hit a girl. Don't assume I'm some thug.
>>18197445
I've gone to therapy and it didn't help. And yes, I'm a virgin(21). I really want to marry the girl I lose it to, but I know my odds are already bad so I won't push it.
I desperately want both so I'm trying to make a real effort to maximize my odds.

>>18197451
>Often 10/10s are arrogant and bitchy
Towards other women maybe since these tend to act extra bitchy to better looking chicks unless they are "that fat friend".

>>18197449
>Basic bitch is a personality type and interest grouping
Sure but maybe it's just my experience (and from all my friends) but I literally never met or heard about a 10/10 like that unless we talk about teens but they often tend to be silly either way. Genetics alone won't make anyone a 10/10, it requires a certain lifestyle and interests.

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>>18197458
i agree with >>18197458 basic bitch refers to that kind of girl that doesn't really stand out, apart from maybe having one to many cruisers.

>>18197467
Every single "shy nice guy" I've met turned out to be a sexist controlling sociopath, and they talked just like you

>>18197470
I don't know what you mean.

Are you implying that the "certain lifestyle and interests" aren't basic bitch ones like instragram and makeup?

>>18197471
...and the hampet too

Men, what do you think of women who don't want marriage, but do want a long term life partner or whatever?

I'm not bothered about marriage, it seems like a waste of time and money when you're already together and love each other, and I live in a place where people who have been together for 10 years have the same rights etc. as married couples.

>>18197474
I don't know what to tell you. I have no reason to lie, I'm not sexist and will hold myself to higher standards than her, and would be willing to bend a lot for the right girl... I never claimed to be nice either, I do really care a lot for the people close to me though.

>>18197484
Just stay with him till you get half his stuff then divorce his ass

>>18197488
I don't want that. My god, I don't even live in a place with insane alimony like the US.

>>18197487
Is this a satire or are you just a future women beater? I seriously can't tell, because the only thing missing is"m'lady"

>>18197477
>instagram
This will hardly help her real looks, will it?

>makeup
Let's take that for example, although a 10/10 shouldn't even need it. Good makeup takes a lot effort, focus and interest into that, traits that often translate in more important things and that others often lack. Eating healthy, doing sports and fashion are other things that take a certain person with traits above "basic".

Then there is a whole clusterfuck of social factors dealing with environment that perceives you as hot, positives and negatives. Most obvious would be the confidence it gives her, another great trait.

Obviously you can go in much deeper but this should make the point clearer.

Men, do you care about a girl being intelligent and educated? Or would you take the hottest girl offered without bothering about personality and interests?

I'm about a 7 or 8/10 and like clothing etc. okay, but I'm not into instagram beauty or dressing like a skank. I'm also very interested in things like philosophy, history and politics, as well as books and would rather be inside reading than going on instagram or facebook. But my main question is, would a man care?

>>18197467
Yes, i used to be quite the opposite actually, super epithetic.

But, if you're not into parties maybe just get together or something, also why not inside uni hall ?

the main thing is trying to bring it up in normal conversation, i would start by hinting at something about you being a virgin and seeing where it goes from there, normally you could get someone to answer it if you play your cards right.

what ever you do, advertise the fact you want a virgin, because most virgin girls will just find that a turn off.

>>18197490
Then just leave, stop wasting the guys time. What you're basically saying is: I wanna sucks the best years of his life and then leave him alone

>>18197484
Sounds mature and reasonably. Getting married because it's expected is silly and as you said, it's a huge waste of time and money.

(Besides I am personally worried to find enough people for the ceremony so it won't look like the saddest party ever)

>>18197502
> Eating healthy, doing sports and fashion are other things that take a certain person with traits above "basic".

Not really. Eating healthy and keeping fit are basic things for everyone to do. They're hardly special. And lots and lots of girls like fashion. It's hardly special.

>>18197508
What are you talking about? I'm not with a guy currently.


All I'm asking is if guys would mind living essentially like a married couple, but without bothering with the whole marriage thing.

>>18197502
Dude, don't even bother. Nothing can extinguish the hate those nourish against what they perceive as "normal "

>>18197509
>(Besides I am personally worried to find enough people for the ceremony so it won't look like the saddest party ever)
I feel that.

>>18197505
It's crucial for anything more than a hook up. I'd want a partner, not just some pretty bimbo.

>philosophy, history and politics
Anything specific? Almost everybody at a certain age claims to be interested in that but it often boils down to "I heard about Nietzsche, something, something Rome, also MAGA!"

>>18197520
All anyone was saying is that being 10/10 does not excuse you from being a basic bitch.

>>18197499
Arguing with you is impossible... I've never hit anyone and probably never will. I was the one getting hit in school, even if I hated someone I still wouldn't scoop to that. Regardless you can believe what you want.
>>18197506
That's actually probably a good idea, but the few times I mentioned I was a virgin it was a bit awkward, but nobody really cared. I'm going to forcing myself to socialize more anyway.

>>18197513
Yes we would. Unless I was desperate.

>>18197522
>Anything specific?
>philosophy
I actually like classical philosophy, not specifically because I agree with it, but because it's fascinating. The greeks, clearly, but I also like some french philosophers like Sartre and De Beauvoir, and find Kierkegaard interesting.

>History
I like Greek history more than Rome, but I actually find the political history of the last few centuries really interesting. Russian, French and Chinese revolutions, the Enlightenment etc.

>politics
I don't know if I've found an ideology that I specifically like, but I really enjoy reading political theories etc, and find the interplay of them interesting.

I'm not a Trump fan, although I'm not American.

>>18197526
So, you specifically would. Why exactly? You don't seem to like marriage either.

>>18197525
I will belve what is less likely to get me raped and killed: that you creeps( the guys with anger problems and mental issues from being bullied)lost your chance to join normal society and that you are a liability to my safety. If we could kill you we would. Unfortunately, the only thing we can do is despise you and look with discuss from afar

>>18197524
The requirements for a 10/10 simply make it very, very unlikely. Just like it's unlikely that some 1/10 whale could be basic due being excluded from most normal things by society or treated as the token "big is beautiful" person.

What's inside often affect our looks and our looks affect how society treats us which in turn affects us. People who stand out on the look side, also often do on the personality.

>>18197537
Yeah, but being basic is usually associated with vanity and vapidity, traits that the beautiful tend to possess.

>>18197525
>I was the one getting hit in school
you deserve it. they should've killed you

>>18197535
If I want to spend my life with someone I will marry her. Only reason not to is if you don't trust your partner or plan on ditching him in the future

>>18197536
>If we could kill you we would
Yep, clearly I'm the fucked up one.
I'm not joking you seriously need to talk to a professional if you think like this. Do yourself a favor and schedule an appointment soon so you don't keep putting it off.
>>18197543
What the hell is wrong with you?

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girls

what do you mean when you say "i miss you" but keeps ignoring the guy and hanging out with another guy (apparently not hooking up with him too) ?

>>18197484
I wanna spend my life with you MAYBE.JUST STICK AROUND FOR 10 YEARS AND FIND OUT! if I dump you and leave you alone at age 50 then.... well that's love n stuff, it's fleeting Ya know? Like your looks and your bank account

>>18197545
I specifically said I feel like marriage is a waste of time and money, when the thing that truly ties a couple to each other is children. Having and raising children together is what I view as the ultimate commitment to a partner. Not some expensive ceremony. It's easy to divorce too you know.

>>18197556
See, I just view marriage as inconsequential, as it's easily broken. As I said before, it's children that truly tie you to another. Not a wedding.

>>18197551
>What the hell is wrong with you?
I've been drinking so I have very little patience for mental deficients with noxious politics

>>18197551
So everyone is the problem but you,the creepy little nerd with admitted mental health issues? Stay away from girls, please. You could avoid a lot of human suffering. If you even cared about anyone or anything besides getting your virgin dick wet, that is

>>18197563
You don't even want to put in the effort for the smaller bonding that is marriage, how would I have a fucking kid with you? Small compromise before big compromise

>>18197565
In over the bullying, but do you understand how terrible that makes someone feel. I cried so many nights wondering why people would bully me.
>>18197566
I don't even care about sex. I want a partner who loves me. Look I have issues, but I'm actually self aware. You sincerely need help.

Men-what do you think of girls who aren't particularly interested in following strict fashion guidelines and aren't into social media or makeup, provided they're not ugly or anything?

Basically, does not having super "feminine" interests matter?

I don't dress poorly imo, I just like vintage stuff and don't go with trends, and it's not a huge focus of my life.

>>18197574
I am just not interested in a big wedding, I'd probably be okay with getting married in like, a registry office if my partner wanted it. Get it official. But I wouldn't bother with the big ceremony, the white dress, the catfights etc.

>>18196783
>I specifically said I feel like marriage is a waste of time and money

Many guys don't. I would see this as a lack of commitment. You are willing to spend your life wig me, but getting married is a no go? I wouldn't feel a lot of trust

>>18197582
>>18197582
>>18197574
So what if I was fine with getting it official, but didnt' want the big wedding, with the dress and seeing of annoying relatives and massive expenses etc.?

>>18197575
See you in the death row I guess. what will be your last meal, rapist?

>>18197575
It's a troll.

I'm so sorry you were bullied, I've been there before too. you'll find someone I'm sure.

>>18197581
That's such a small thing

>>18197590
What is?

Girl im seeing is stringing me along hard, wants to get serious but still sees other guys.

How do i remove this cancerous tumour

>>18197586
Im done with this, if this isn't bait please call a doctor soon.
>>18197588
I hope it is, it's not a big deal I'm pretty much over it and don't let it but me, but it's not something people should joke about.

>>18197585
No problem, but if my wife wanted a proper wedding I would be OK with it. If that point is in anyway a deal-breaker I think your feelings are not strong enough to justify spending a life together

>>18197595
I just thought you could do with some kindness as these people are tearing you to shreds. You'll find someone. Maybe you'll have to get over the virgin thing, but with the right girl it shouldn't matter.

>>18197596
I just feel like the 40,000 could be better spent on say, a house. Or a car. Or a holiday together.

>>18197533
>philosophy
Simply the realisation that the greeks had all these ideas so long ago is pretty fascinating and humbling, although it's pretty dry to read.

>Kierkegaard
My nigga. What about Camus?

>I like Greek history more than Rome
Eh, why? Never quite got into the Hellenistic period and not sure what's missing for the spark of interest. Last few centuries are obviously fascinating due the relevance and effects on the present, I have no idea how school managed to make the stuff sound boring.

>politics
Well, what side(s) or even doctrine you're leaning to? Given how things envolve it's understandable that it's not easy to find that ONE.

But yeah to come back to the question, unless you're dating in some backwards village, most men will see intelligence as a big positive.

>>18197577
>fashion
At worst: don't care. At best it's a positive if you can pull it of and look unique. Post pic of example. "Vintage" is used for basically everything these days.

>aren't into social media
Big plus. It seems like such a sad way to waste time.

>interests
As long you have multiply ones and are really passionate about them, who cares whether it's dressing up or working on your car.

Can someone please answer me?

>>18197553

Thank you.

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>>18197602
I'd basically wear anything from the 20s-60s on this, except maybe 30s. I make all my own clothes from old patterns, so they're somewhat accurate.

>>18197599
Maybe one day it won't bother me, but for now it means a lot to me. Thanks for the sympathy but it's alright, I have some really great friends and parents who've helped me out so I don't let this get to me.

>>18197611
Basically it means she has you on standby. Find someone else.

>>18197601
Oh yes, but even the ceremony matters a lot to some people. I wouldn't particularly mind, but I would understand if it was a bigger deal to my partner

>>18197616
10s look pretty lame but rest is damn cool. Why does it even matter how random guys view it, you seem to care enough about having your own style, so if someone doesn't like it, it's their loss.

> I make all my own clothes from old patterns, so they're somewhat accurate.
So much about not super feminine interests.

>>18197602
>what about Camus
I like him well enough. I actually read them all in high school to improve my French, so I kind of associate it with that age.

>Hellenistic period
I don't know, I just find it fascinating how a loose conglomerate of petty cities can form the foundation for civilisation. I agree about the school making everything boring thing. It's honestly impressive how stuff so interesting can be so dry in the wrong hands.

>Well, what side(s) or even doctrine you're leaning to?
I tend to be more libertarian than authoritarian, and probably a little more left than right wing in that I don't find myself especially bothered by gay people marrying or women being out of the kitchen (I love work, I'd hate to be cooped up in a house all day) or other races having rights etc.

However, I'm no SJW, and don't think that tolerance without any breaks is the right way for a civilisation to go. Even with the authoritarian/liberal thing, I can see the benefits to having strong centralised control and the defects of democracy- it's more an emotional knee jerk reaction than anything else, and I'm aware of that.

>>18197577
What do you mean by "don't follow strict fashion guidelines"? Do you wear stuff like ponchos?

>>18197628
It's more practicality. I don't find it interesting, I just can't find the stuff I want. Also I specified not the 1910s. I agree, they suck.

With feminine interests, I was more talking about the beauty vlogger kind, like trends etc. Not classic stuff. And other than that I'm in a rock band, and like video games and reading, as well as philosophy and stuff like that other girl.

>>18197630
See >>18197616

>>18197553
>>18197611
You're that guy aren't you, the guy who made the thread about that girl you had sex with on the third date and then she told you to piss off and now she's hanging out with "douchebag" aka thundercock chad

listen mate stop thinking about her, she doesn't matter, she took a single moment out of her life to write "miss you" because she felt it, but it doesn't mean shit, she's a woman, you two fucked, its a text she wrote in one single moment, she don't give 2 fucks dude you said it yourself she still ignores you and hangs out with the other dude, the sooner you move on and stop giving a damn about her and spamming /adv/ with threads the better you'll feel

>>18197634
I think it can be ok, especially if the clothes are modernized a little. I don't really care if a girl is into social media or not.
>>18197633
Being in a rock band, video games, and reading are great interests to have. A shot in the dark, but do you play bass?

>>18197636
Yeah, bass, drums, sax and a bit of piano. Oh and Cello, but that's just learning a classical instrument for the benefits to me as a musician, not because I really like classical.

>>18197575
>so many nights wondering why people would bully me.
>Look I have issues, but I'm actually self aware.
uh huh

>>18197636
>especially if the clothes are modernized a little
hell no. let her keep that shit pure.

>>18197616
>I make all my own clothes from old patterns
that's extremely effeminate. I wouldn't be able to tell if they were trendy or not anyways

>>18197655
But, like I said, that's my only feminine hobby.

>>18197629
>it's more an emotional knee jerk reaction than anything else
Kek, hard not to empathize with after the recent events, though something like the French two round system sounds like a decent balance of democracy and checks against the downsides.

>>18197633
>beauty vlogger kind
I literally never met a single female who was seriously into that stuff. Also your interest sound pretty cool too.

>stuff like that other girl
You two sounded pretty similar overall, and damn, this thread is sure imbalanced. Two females with nothing to worry about and guys with obsession about virgin waifus or exes.

>>18197641
How the fuck do you find the time?

>>18197670
Well, I mostly play drums or bass in my band, and sax in another. The cello thing was in highschool. I haven't touched it for a while. Piano is just for composition.

>>18197577
I want such a girlfriend. This in all seriousness is my ideal

Girls, what little things do you dig and find attractive?
For example from time to time I can just produce poems on the go. Does this earn me any extra points?

>>18197716
>tfw no literary bf
Sure, writing earns bonus points with me at least.

>>18197716
>from time to time I can just produce poems on the go.
Depends on the quality of the poems. If they're painful to read, no. If they're good, yes.

>what little things do you dig and find attractive?
Being visibly passionate about something. Having that cutie light in their eyes when they talk about it, moving their hands.
A sexy, deep voice. A good taste in books. A good aesthetic taste. A nice smell. Taking care of the way they dress. Not owning a lot of stuff. Remembering the shit I tell them.

you want me to die?

>>18197744
No, I don't want anyone to die. What's wrong?

>>18197728
>>18197743
I meant I just speak with them, kind of like in a rap battle. I don't write that.

>>18197745
to disappear completely?

>>18197749
Then, no.

>>18197743
those are *little* things in your opinion?

>>18197765
Kind of? Not major personality traits or anything that defines them as a person, just irrelevant stuff that I find attractive.

>>18197771
so if somebody was completely different than that, but still had the major traits you dig, it wouldn't be a big deal to you?

>>18197776
Well, not the opposite because otherwise he'd be a materialistic idiot with poor hygiene. All the guys I dated long term had a few of those qualities, but having them all or not isn't a big deal.

There are a ton of other things I like. Talking respectfully about his ex girlfriends, for example. Writing well through texts - good grammar, good vocabulary, good punctuation. Cooking well. Being outdoorsy.
It's relatively small stuff.

>>18197577
your typical guy isnt going to be terribly concerned with your particular tastes in clothing. as long as youre clean and dress nice theres going to be at least a couple guys that are going to be picking up what youre putting down

>>18197484
I think I can speak for pretty much all men when I say a women not interested in marriage as a way to cement your relationship is a boon in modern society. marriage is an extremely one sided and risky deal for men in modern society

Finally talked to this cute girl in my class, got her number for school-related shit, found out she won't be on campus next semester. I talked to her for like 5 minutes? I mean I can't read it very well, but compared to this awkward kid she was talking to like 10 minutes before me, she definitely showed more interest and shit. Should mention we spoke briefly last semester and she remembered me, so that's good, and she was smiling a lot and her body language didn't seem like she was uncomfortable or anything.

I'm honestly interested in dating her, and I want to ask her out, but I've got no ideas, plus I've never actually been on a date before, so it's a whole new world for me. I'm not sure what to do/where to ask her. Our classes are in the morning/afternoon together, but we both commute so coffee before class is a no go, and lunch is a conflict because the only real place on campus is the food court in the campus center. Not to mention I've really not known her for very long, but I feel like I've gotta act quick because of her not being there next semester. Any help?

>>18197819
something simple with no distractions like a walk in a public park is my usual go to for "orientation" so you two and talk and get to know each other. follow it up next week with dinner and a movie

>>18197829
But I honestly don't feel like there's any places to do these sorts of things, there's no park, there's no shops etc. It's basically all class buildings, the campus center, the dining hall, and then housing for students.

One of the nearby campuses has a movie theater and some more places to eat, though.

I barely know the surrounding area of the campus, and I know we don't live close to each other.

Ok.
My problem is a bit complicated but I'll keep it short and simple:

At work there is this girl, one day she sits in front of my table and sends me clear signs she is interested in me, she was trying to get eye contact a lot(big smiling while looking at me) and then when I finally stare back she would wave her eyes and draw me that fucking smile...jesus what else could it possibly mean?
And you know what I did?
Say hi and look away, completely shy.

I tried to make up for it today and go talk to her, but she was "busy" the whole time.
Always talking to other guys, or go from one place to another.
What killed me is that not once did she look at me this time, even when I would be around her, she didn't even say hi.

So either she played me like, or I turned her off.

I want your advice on this, should I still try to make contact with her and see how it goes?
My guess is that if she was really interested, she would have at least tried to make me see her or say hi.

I thought that maybe she is insecure about coming to me, but I don't believe in this shit when it comes to girls.

It angers me to know that I may have missed an opportunity.
If you think that she never really cared(she possibly was just staring/smiling because I looked like a clown to her, who knows), then please let me know so I can at least forget about her without thinking too much about it.

>>18197836
you've got a phone right? google maps that shit find out whats nearby it doesn't have to be a park just do something together that takes place in a casual public environment

>>18197789
>Writing well through texts - good grammar, good vocabulary, good punctuation.
so you prefer deliberate conversation rather than just chatter

>Cooking well. Being outdoorsy.
self-sufficient and active

>Talking respectfully about his ex girlfriends, for example.
this is a bit tricky, and can reveal a lot about a guy's judgement. on one hand, if he is respectful of his exes that would at least imply they split amicably, showing hes at least capable of maintaining a good relationship.

On the other hand, if he's bitter with his exes it shows that he was unable to judge his ex's values/personality/interests correctly. Or he might not even be fully aware of his own values/personality/interests. It may be justified or it may just be undue resentment, either case would point that he may not be ready for a certain type of relationship, maybe they each had a different expectation of what the relationship should be like.

But this depends just as much on the other partner, because lets face it, some people are just trash. When in doubt, ask for the reason for the breakup

Personally though, someone who tries to talk "respectfully" of an objectively trashy ex comes off as someone who isn't aware of their own worth, which I would label as having poor judgment

Not all people operate with a high-level of awareness, intelligence, introspection, and respect. life is not an anime where each person is willing to improve themselves and genuinely cares about how they affect the people they involve themselves with.

To the dude that accidently snubbed the girl at work. Duh idiot you snubbed her she may or may not realize it is because you are shy but she opens the door and she wanted your metaphorical dick to enter it with some recpication. It is salvageable maybe but you have to humourisly describe that scenario to her from your POV. That will rewriterewrite that reference point of you in her book to one to continue flirting with.

>>18197840
she probably perceived your actions as "rejecting her" and got pissed about it, or realized youre shy and got pissed about it. either way you may never get to the bottom of it and count your losses and try not to think too hard or worry about it

>>18197855
What should I say? I got caught off by surprise because girls never looked at me like that? This is the truth I can't tell.

>>18197860
So what should I do?
Talk to her ?
Don't you think there is a chance she was using me to flatter herself?

If that's the case its fine for me, I'll know she is a whore and I can forget about her easy.
My only concern is that I was the one who failed this when I did stand a chance.

>>18197864
>Don't you think there is a chance she was using me to flatter herself?
there is an 80% chance of this being true, especially if her being "busy" was just flirting with other guys.

It doesn't mean she is a whore idiot.

Look by the way you talk you don't seem to be able to handle a woman.

So you are saying she took your breath away and left you speechless. Uhm... Woman love hearing that kind of shit and you have the actual former incident to back up that it is true. From there you have to turn your akwaedness into some kind of making fun of how akward you feel and be able to meet her gaze.

>>18197867
Eeh...she was asking one his number if I recall but to me it sounded more like she was just getting to know more people(she is new).
It frustrated me that she wouldn't try to talk to me, I tried to fool myself into thinking that girls never make the first move.

I don't think it was flirting, none the less she doesn't make much effort for me.


>>18197870
Am I hiding that I'm inexperienced? Of course I can't handle them.


>From there you have to turn your akwaedness into some kind of making fun of how akward you feel and be able to meet her gaze.


How exactly?

For example last week I just met a gorgeous girl and I all of a sudden felt tounge tied... So I basically kind of stuttered with no actual word and then brain farted. I recovered by saying honestly I just like to see you smile I'm just talking so I can keep looking at you and apparently I can barely do that but I'm trying because seeing you smile is the best thing that has happened to me today and I just don't want this moment to end just yet.

>>18197887
>So I basically kind of stuttered with no actual word and then brain farted.
that's typically what happens when you let your dick do the talking.

>>18197886
>she was just getting to know more people(she is new).
>she is new
>one day she sits in front of my table and sends me clear signs she is interested in me
>she is new

This is setting off some warning signs.
How new is she? A week? A month? How difficult is your work?

>>18197889
>>18197887
No offense but what does that tell me?
What not to do?

>>18197901
2 weeks.
Not that hard, just time consuming.

>>18197905
Uhm that is what too do. The girl started blushing and agreed to get naked for me this week as she gave me her number. I'm just pissed because I didn't call her because I felt depressed.

Essentially what I am saying is it is OK to be shy and even stumble but you have to own it and be able to recover. When I saw own it i mean describe what happened and why it happened. Then why you are continues jg to put yourself through the torture of the ackwardness you are experiencing. Which is basically because seeing her and having her a part of your life is worth it. If you can accurately convey that message chances are she will blush and remember you because you made her feel special.

So next week my old friend (female) is gonna be in my city and we agreed to meet up.

Now, I haven't seen her in like 10 years, back in the day I was sure she liked me but I was too much of a beta to do anything about it, after we both moved cities we kept in contact from time to time and now she's coming to vacation to my city for reasons unrelated to me (her sister and her friends are coming and she tagged along, according to her she reminded I lived here afterwards and decided to contact me).

Anyway I want to put my penis inside her and I believe she wants it too, so far I'm thinking just hanging out the first day and attempt something until the second day.

Anyway not sure what my question is, I guess I just wanted to say it because it's all I've been thinking about lately, any random advice to not fuck this up is welcome. Help two akward humans get some action, I'm sure she'll appreciate it too.

>>18197915
>Hi, remember me? I snubbed you the other day, I don't know how it looked, you did get me though, I find you incredibly sexy I just didn't know how to tell you.

She'll burst in laugh and avoid me asap for the rest of my days in that office.

Thanks for the advice but I would rather just give it up now, it's obvious it's not going to work.
If that girl really liked me she wouldn't get down so easily, and I don't ever think girls feel that way but rather feel like she is the one who gave me a chance and I should be glad.

I'm pissed because every time this happens with a girl I keep losing the occasion either by not doing anything or show somehow that I have small experience at my age.
This girl is hell of cute, I can take rejection but being considered a creep or that she played me I cannot accept this.

>>18197916
Brave the anxiety and close the distance then embrace the ackward by describing it and your reaction to it to her. This should get her laughing or at least it will with practice. Once you have done this congrats you have done the hardest part. Now you have established a connection and are on the same page. Now you have to break the touching threshold and establish that as part of the connection too. Basically by using the same steps and maintiaing that humorous narrative to where things are leading.

>>18197577
>Men-what do you think of girls who aren't particularly interested in following strict fashion guidelines and aren't into social media or makeup, provided they're not ugly or anything?

Depends ENTIRELY on the dude.

Personally, I wouldn't give a fuck either way.
While I'm in to fashion (not /fa level, but I do have my own sense of aesthetics), I barely exist on social media

Some guys who are super in to fashion/social media themselves would probably care more. A lot of guys who are in to neither (I.E. probably most of the guys on here) would probably prefer it if you weren't.

>>18197916
>Any, any random advice to not fuck this up is welcome. Help two akward humans get some action, I'm sure she'll appreciate it too.

Booze. Not too slamming shots 'til your silly, but don't be afraid to grab some drinks with your dinner. Don't try to force a plan or time line, just see where the night carries you.

>>18197930
Lol idiot reword it differently.. Make it sweet and funny rather than creepy. That requires a funny voice where you kind of make fun of yourself. But really you are making fun of the ackwardnes. That is the whole point though of getting you and her together laughing at the ackwardnes . learn to do that and women will love you for it.

gf of nearly two years broke up with me a few weeks ago, we rarely talked ever since and i broke down and spilled my feelings a few days ago and avoided her ever since, today she sent me a message asking how i am, any advice?

>>18197944
>Brave the anxiety and close the distance then embrace the ackward by describing it and your reaction to it to her.
I have absolutely no idea what this means.

>>18197947
I already had that planned, I guess a couple drinks and good conversation should suffice.

To be honest the touching treshold is the hardest part for me, I feel extremely unconfortable touching someone for the first time and I find it almost impossible to not feel awkward, I usually find excuses like when opening a door, fortunately I live in the beach so I do hope going for a swim in the ocean will smooth this out.

>>18197961
eat a lot of vegeetables

>>18197852
I can't help but think less of a man who talks shit about his exes.
Even if I broke up with my exes because of very valid reasons, I still don't think that they were horrible people. I will say something like "We weren't a good fit because of X reasons, but he's a good guy".
Even my boyfriend told me about his cheating ex fiancé "She cheated on me and I broke up with her. It made me really sad, but I understood we weren't a good fit and it's good we ended it".

I don't want you to go on and on about how good she is, but don't insult her, don't talk shit about the way she looks and don't tell me she was "crazy" or a bad person. It says a lot about you, too - if you associate with people who are such trash in your head, then... why should I want to be with you?

>>18197930
Girls like funny guys. If you have ackwardnes then that is your ticket to funny. Embrace it. Once you understand how to be funny you can expand your repertoire. Really though you can get away saying all kinds of things you thinknare impossible. There is a good chance the girl wants to hear those things depending on how you word it and the delivery.

Fellow guys,

If you had a gf who was a virgin and you felt was the one who you knew you wanted to spend the rest of your life with, and she asked you to apologize for having had sex before/not with her only, would you?

>>18197968
(not the one you replied to)
what if I talked shit just about one of my exes? The others were good people and we are on good terms with each other now, but there was this one actual mistake. Is it wrong to talk about her at all in this case, or would you accept my judgement in such a case?

>>18197984
Honestly, just don't say anything or just say "Not the best choice I've ever made".
If you go on and on insulting her or talking shit about her, it feels really sad.

>>18197983
what's the big deal about apologizing again?

Though to be honest I don't know If I could actually mean it when apologizing for something I wanted and intended to do.
But on yet another hand - I don't think I could fall in love for this type of girl

>>18197952
How should I reword it?
To me it just sounds like on top of being awkward I will also seem needy.

>>18197973
No I forget about it.
The lack of consideration from her the last day was enough for me to understand.
I think it was probably why I didn't try anything, because inside, I know she doesn't give a fuck, why wouldn't she talk to me like she does with other guys?

>>18197992
In my case, I regretted it already so apologizing actually aligned with my mindset already. I was curious how others would take the same scenario though since generations coming up now seem more selfish yet paradoxically eager to find "the one".

>>18197983
>she asked you to apologize for having had sex before/not with her only, would you?
It would be petty not to apologize.

Though, it's also petty to demand an apology for something that happened before you even knew each other.

Unless it was something you both agreed on before starting the relationship/having sex.

>>18198009
>Unless it was something you both agreed on before starting the relationship/having sex.
Nope, I actually lied to her about it out of shame/guilt and then came out with the truth later, which prompted it her to demand an apology.

>>18198007
nah, it's bullshit that generations change so fast you could actually notice it. What happens is that you and your environment mature and the young seem worse in comparison the older you get. There are some shitty people, true, but there always were.

So if that'sthe nature of your question - I think if I found The One I'd do something of this importance for her. It wouldn't have anything to do with virginity, because of my definition of the perfect girl.

>>18197983
why would I apologize for doing something before I even knew she existed? if she cant handle my past she should move on simple as that

>>18198015
>I actually lied to her about it out of shame/guilt and then came out with the truth later
>I actually lied to her
>then came out with the truth later
>I lied so I could pop her cherry
apologize faggot

>>18197973
>>18197952
>>18197901
OK FINE! I won't give it up.

What do I do? Approach her directly and tell her I find her cute or do I just be a normal friend and see how it goes?

>>18197175
Paracetamol is not the best option; ibuprofen, or naproxen are both better alternatives in terms of non controlled / deregulated pain killers for your liver coming off a binge.

Assuming you took <3g total dose of paracetamol in 24 hours you should be just fine.

- pharmacist

>>18198015
She's not asking you to apologize for having sex before the relationship, she's asking you to apologize for lying about it you idiot.