ITT: Ask the opposite gender anything

Does someone have that copy pasta of a girl telling off nice guys? Something along the lines of

"nice guys are anything but nice"

Girls

Would you share a guy with another guy (aka a bottom) in an MMF threesome?

Been hanging out with this girl for about a year. She has gf but acts like she likes me. She makes it seem almost like we're a couple around other people. Whenever we're alone she is very touchy and lays her head on me etc. I playfully grabbed her ass a few times and she was totally cool with it. I even slept over (we've never so much as kissed though)

She sometimes drops hints like "if you and me dated..." or "hmm I never dated someone with (something I have)" When I've mentioned girls I talked to she seemed visibly jealous.

Sometimes I think she likes me but she constantly talks about her gf and how great she is. (Although a couple times she said they were almost breaking up)

I want to know what her motive is and I'm also getting feelings for her but want to avoid pain.

What conclusion could be made from this?

A friend and I randomly decided to meet up with a girl I know, and a friend of hers.

She tries to set my friend and hers up. Yet doesn't do anything with me. She already knew that I liked her

>>18128360
how are we supposed to know, never met her not in her head. We haven't even seen you two together. You cant tell over some text.

Don't be such a beta pussy, just fucking ask her christ you dense dense fuck

>>18128364
either doesn't like you, or is hinting she wants you to make a move.


Just ask her out, if she says no then perfect you're no longer wondering and you dont have to tease yourself, if she says yes then cool you have a date. How can people not figure this shit out for themselves? These threads are just filled with the most retarded people

girls

i have this penpal that i really enjoy talking to, we have a lot in common on many levels, similar goals and interests. We call each other a lot too and enjoy talking to each other. We are even flirty too.

here's my question. I think i'm starting to like her, so would it be acceptable if i asked her "hey ******, im curious, is long distance dating something you could do?"

Like i said, I like this girl, but i want to gauge if its something she would actually even consider before i get my hopes up.

>>18128370
EH, I already came clean with her maybe 2 weeks earlier, and she simply said she's not looking for anything, with anyone right now.

Could be that she's trying to keep me single for when shes ready?

>>18128366
When we met she didn't tell me she was in a relationship and I was planning to make a move. But then she relunctantly told me.

If I did that now it would potentially ruin our friendship. I know it sounds beta but she's my best friend at school. I'm starting to think my best bet is to not try and to get rid of these feelings for her.

>>18128377
No, because if bradd pitt came around she would change "not looking for anything" into full on "date mode"

"I'm not looking for anything" is just a way of putting someone down nicely, i've done it lots of times, and i've had it done to me lots of times. Put it this way, when she does want to date, you're not going to be the one (most likely).

Is is possible for females to change?
Or once a cheater always a cheater?

>>18128385
Then why wouldn't she try setting me up with her friend instead? That way she might force me to move past her

>>18128383
Maybe the best bet, if you truly feel you can be strictly platonic. But it sounds like that would be really difficult for you, the way you talk about it. It's insanely difficult to go from longtime close friends to romantic, i've only done it once and it didn't last for very long (I cut it off, it felt weird)

In your situation, 8 times out of 10 I just break it off completely. For the most part same sex companionship/friendship is better than opposite sex friendship, as there will usually be some sexual tension and lets face it girls arent into the same things guys are into but again that's not a rule it's just how things tend to go.

>>18128386
No, don't buy into their "I'll change" bullshit. She'll cheat on you again.

>>18128389
Well she still wants you as an orbiter dude. She just doesn't want to date you, all girls need an orbiter. Sorry for the buzzwords, I just don't know any other words for it.

>>18128402
Damn, I dun goofed.

>>18128406
no you didn't, you can leave this very second again.... it's not like a loan where you're locked in

>>18128404
Maybe. But I did notice that she has few friends, is socially awkward, and actually cut contact with a more attractive and sociable guy who showed interest aswell

>>18128360
>Been hanging out with this girl for about a year. She has gf but acts like she likes m

First question. Are you a guy or a girl?
Second question. If you are a guy, does she claim to be bi or gay?

>>18128417
well then that adds a whole plethora of curve balls. Maybe she's socially awkward, or mentally ill.

>>18128421
Yea. It seems like the normal explanations cant really be applied her. Only time will tell I guess

>>18128419
I'm a guy and she's bisexual.

>>18128397
Yeah to be honest the whole time I've had the potential of dating her in the back of my head. It will be difficult to be strictly platonic and still be friends but I guess I'll try and if jt doesn't work I'll tell her I feel like I can't be her close friend.

We actually have many mutual interests and she's one of the few girls to actively want to be friends with me and care about things I say or do. But in the end it might not be possible.

>>18128326
GTFO bitch.

Girls and guys

Anyone here not feel comfortable with the thought of being close to the opposite sex?

I'm very observant. Right now I'm watching a movie with some friends. One of my friends is cuddled with his girlfriend. Just glancing over that them. I literally can't imagine being so physically close to someone. Just trying to picture a girl doing that with me gives me a dose of anxiety.

I don't know what to do. It's frustrating. I think about girls often, but when I see how it is in real life. It bothers me.

Girls, if you found out the guy you were dating had really strict religious parents, would it instantly be a turn off even if the guy wasn't like them. I'm 20 and planning on moving out when I transfer to a different school so it's not like I have to ask permission do shit

>>18128389
Maybe your just undesirable.

>>18128450
I wish I could give you some better advice but this is pretty personal

Either you like here enough that you could live with being platonic

You ask her to date you and if she says no either your friendship withers away awkwardly or you put it behind you and still remain friends and pretend you never even asked

or you just cut it off now to prevent the hurt

>>18128326
I would. I totally would. But would all girls be okay with that? Nope. Would the girl you're thinking about be into it? You have to ask her. That's right, "ask" as in "not talk in to". Be prepared to be disappointed.

>>18128406
Turn her into your personal whore and then break up with her.

>>18128472
Doubtful, I'm nothing special but I've had girls obviously be interested in me.

>>18128473
>I'm nothing special
That attitude wont get you far. Yeah no ones technically special in comparison to the vast near infinite cosmos. But that's basically pussy juice dryer upper attitude.

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I guess this is more of a general psychological question, but does a girl playing with her hair when she's around me mean anything? I'm pretty sure she doesn't do it all the time, but I definitely notice it if we're out eating somewhere sitting across from each other.

Maybe she's anxious? maybe her hair is just bugging her?

Figured I'd ask.

>>18128492
ask her out

Stop thinking into it and just fucking ask her out then you wont have to annoy everyone here with dumb questions that no one can know the answer to.

>>18128310
do girls just randomly call guys at night if they're just friendly?

I asked her out before but nothing came out of it even when she said yes because she's still too busy with work / study. We've hanged out before but usually together with other people or if it's just us two, it's just for lunch.

like i don't know if she's considering me seriously or not, and i feel like pushing it / asking her out again at this point is just going to be way too clingy when I know she's busy studying anyways.

I guess my fear is that I might just be beta orbiting around her and I may be reading into things too much into her occasional casual / bro-type body contact initiated by her

>>18128439
>I'm a guy and she's bisexual.

Then, unfortunately, this is out of the scope of my experience.

As a guy, I've had multiple gay girls drop hints and flat out tell me that they thought they could change if they were with me (and in every case, I've pretty much figured out where it came from--not so much me, but a sense of longing to be normal), but bi girls are a different ball game.

I can only speculate.

I can't speak to the absolute veracity of this, but I will tell you a lot of gay girls I've talked to HATE dating bisexual girls. They might fool around with them for a fling or two, but will avoid any sort of a hint of a long term relationship with them, exactly because of how capricious they can be. And these were lessons learned by them the hard way.

Anyway, my inexpert advice is treat this as if this girl was straight and she was dating a guy.

What would you think, if she was seeing another guy and telling you this same shit?

If that was the case, I'm pretty sure most people would tell you to walk the fuck away from this because this girl's got problems, and you'd only inherent them and be treated like the guy she's with now.

Why would a girl avoid telling me her age?


This girl is shy and very flirty with me. But she always avoids the topic of age, and if someone asks while im around she'll give a vague answer. (I know she is 28 as a mutual friend told me. But I'm only 19)

>>18128515
Women are sensitive about that shit son. Never ask them their weight either.

This is pure speculation but since she's got almost 10 years on you she might be feeling a bit like a cougar and/or not want to scare you off.

>>18128529
I'm thinking that she probably just doesn't wanna scare me off. She definitely looks a lot younger than 28. More like 18 or so.

I would think that this only becomes a concern when they are interested in someone romantically and not just as a friend?

Women

What differences do you notice between western and "foreign" men? Which group do you generally like better?

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>>18128310
Girls, what kind of porn do you like and how often do you watch it?

>>18128515
>I know she is 28 as a mutual friend told me. But I'm only 19
dude you just answered yourself just how dumb are you? she's 9 years older than you! being old is not an attractive trait for woman, and even if you dont care, she doesnt know that and doesnt care since the rest of society say the opposite (when have you heard of a man leaving his wife for a older woman??)
she doesnt want you to be turned off by her age, she's selfconscious about it

Why do women like casual sex?

As I've always understood it, sex is a really emotional and psychological thing for women. Even when it comes to physical attraction, the penis is usually the last thing on the list behind a guy's arms, smile, eyes, etc.

So what is it about casual sex that attracts women?

>>18128545
libido

>>18128545
They like pure carnal sex just like we do, don't fool yourself.

>>18128532
So grab your balls and ask her out. It doesn't have to be anything fancy, just ask her to get a meal or do something you both enjoy together.

If she says no then you know where you stand. If she says yes don't freak about making it some perfect magical moment, it's about spending time together and getting to know each other better. Since you're already on decent footing you've got a leg up on a random date.

>>18128536
nice try pajeet

>>18128532
>I would think that this only becomes a concern when they are interested in someone romantically and not just as a friend?
dont read too much into it with that alone

it's a touchy subject with a lot of women if they are already 28 and they don't have kids yet or just not married. My sister is around that age too so I know.

>>18128538
i stumbled into my sister's yaoi stash when we used to share only my computer when I was a kid.

>>18128558
They like to tell us that they prefer to have an emotional connection just to make us believe they are better than they actually are, not as shallow as men. It's all fake.

>>18128563
I guess. Only time will tell with where I stand

>>18128559
True. True. I guess it was sorta obvious. I just tend to over think

>>18128558

According to a study, only 35% of women orgasm from casual sex. So why would they have casual sex? On top of that, women are more likely to orgasm from clitoral stimulation than penetration. With that said, it's confusing as shit to me what their motives are.

For the record, I'm a guy that can't understand enjoying sex with a woman I didn't have feelings for. But I still GET IT when guys just want carnal sex because it's not this emotional thing for MOST men. Most men see a vagina, want to put their dick in it and it's that simple. But most women don't want to see a penis from a man they don't love or have feelings for, hence why they don't like getting flashed and don't get excited from nude pics from random dudes. It's confusing because it's like, they don't get excited by looking at naked men but they're willing to have sex with them? I don't get it.

>>18128570
I know how that goes dude, I am, if not the King, than at least a Duke of overthinking shit. I've overthought my way out of so many women's lives.

She already likes you cause you're friends, just keep being yourself and see what happens.

And physician heal thyself, I'm dispensing the same advice I need to follow.

>>18128545
no but seriously, it's true that the penis is the last thing you're attracted to, but why do you think this should influences the desire to have casual sex?? we're not having sex with only a penis, we're having sex with the whole guy! so if we get turn on by his smile/arm/whatever, why wouldn't we want sex?
you can be very attracted to a guy but not see him as boyfriend material

as for the "emotional" part you talked about, well that's not exactly it. loveless sex and making love is two separate category. a certain night can be very important to you but you can also want to just get fucked by a guy you're really attracted to.


the 'sacred" thing about sex is that you must be in complete control of what's going down there ( that's why rape is such a traumatizing event) if not, and i'm not necessarily talking about sexual abuse here, like if you dont have sex for the right reason to you, it's really gonna haunt you.

>>18128588
It's kinda funny. I tried meeting up with her twice. She canceled both times. Then outta the blue she asks to get coffee, which we do. Now it's back to the avoiding meeting up bit. (though we get lunch twice a week together at collegw)

>>18128580
You are retarded. Women love to have a man holding them down and pounding them even if they don't orgasm.

>>18128591

>a certain night can be very important to you but you can also want to just get fucked by a guy you're really attracted to

This is the hardest concept for me to understand because I've been trained to think this concept is foreign to women.

I'm a guy and it's foreign even to me. I just can't comprehend wanting to have sex with someone just because I find them physically attractive. I've tried to understand that my entire life and I just can't.

>>18128580
true that we dont get exited by the view of naked men, but sex is a lot more than looking at eachother nakeness! sex involves touching, caresses, talking, and kisses.
the situation itself is arousing, being alone in a room with a guy who want to fuck you is not the same as receiving a random guy's nude. witnessing a guy's erection rise at the view of your naked body or at your touch,feeling desired, is extremely arousing, received a close up picture of a dick, not.

for woman, arousal come from sex itself rather than the nudity.

>>18128618
>pretending to be a woman online
This is so pathetic. Don't you have anything better to than troll online and pretend to be a woman? Real sad

>>18128609
Are you a virgin? Either way you are going to have a hard time having a relationship thinking like this, this carnal connection is food for women, if they don't feel desired they will leave our cheat on you.

>>18128591
different people, different view.

look, women arent one big entity. just like men, they are individuals with different perspectives and likes. some girls are like you, while some girls can probably just come if they have no idea who is fucking them. you really cant put them all in the same bundle

>>18128626
Or*

>>18128621
i'm a woman tho... isnt this about asking the opposite sex? why is it so weird to think there's women here?

>>18128618

Everything you said makes perfect sense. What I'm having a hard time grasping is how you can touch, caress and kiss someone you don't love or at least feel like you could have a future with? Why not just masturbate? There's less guilt and shame afterwards and it's less messy. Again if it's just casual, why would you even WANT to talk or cuddle? You don't love them, they're just a tool for your own pleasure.

>>18128626

I'm kind of a virgin. I've received oral sex and fingered a girl once but that's it. Even with her I sort of created this fantasy in my own head about potentially marrying her and having a family in the future. Had I not created that fantasy, I would've just masturbated to get rid of my urge and not having to worry about STDs or anything.

>>18128609
didn't respond to the right one oops
here
>>18128628

>>18128386
People can change. Here's the kicker though

1-Most people who say they have, haven't.
2-It's difficult and takes a long time. If she cheated and says she changed the day after, that's bullshit. This is the sort of thing that takes a lot of introspection over a long period.

>>18128642
Did you have a religious upbringing by any chance?

>>18128651

Yeah, but I was pretty lukewarm on it for the majority of it. I don't think religion has anything to do with my views on sex. I've felt this way ever since I can remember. Even when I was like 3 and had a female friend, my mind immediately went to marriage fantasies. I've never wanted to be just friends and I've never wanted to just have sex. I've always wanted commitment and love.

Also, I grew up around asexual women who would openly talk about how they didn't care about sex and actually made fun of men for always desiring it. They were baffled. I'm assuming they didn't know I was listening. So when I grew up and found out women are actually horndogs, it was such a major mindfuck that many years later I'm still trying to understand it.

Mom is friends with ex gf. What do?

>>18128661
cut contact with your mom and move out of her basement already.

>>18128657
look dude obviously we could try explaining you all night. but seems like you simply can't understand the moral/emotional reason to have casual sex (with women or men) because it's not compatible with your values. i'm sure you're genuinely trying to understand, but i dont think you can truly. you just gotta accept that some people just dont see sex like you do. same way some people love horror movies and some just cant understand why in the world it would be a fun activity (yeah yeah shady parallel i know but that's all i got right now)

>>18128657
They were just trying to appear better than men, or not as "shallow" for having sexual desires. You were raised by crazy, repressed women.

>>18128670
I live on my own, but I can't cut her out of my life in the responsible one

Hi everyone. I've been hanging out with one of my friends that I've known since elementary school. I've been friends with him on/off at various times. We are 24 now. But one of the biggest things is that he is very confrontational, argumentive, and too much to deal with at times. He can't stand being friends with people that don't meet up to his standards. He's not a very materialistic person and has good knowledge on fitness, health, and playing instruments, but he's a pain in the ass to deal with, but doesn't necessarily do anything to work other than subbing twice a week at one of the public schools. He constantly wants to hang out but I usually have to initiate conversation or come up with things to talk about, I just get this vibe that he's really depressed and lonely but it seems he's not able to withstand people that aren't as tolerant or willing to do the things he does.

Anyway, I just wanted to ask if I should continue to be friends with this person at my own sanity's sake or change something about it.

>>18128697
are you a girl?
keep it as a casual friendship, no harm in those.
Unless you feel is consuming too much of your time for little to not benefit from you then just end it.

Do grills like old virgin guys?

Why do women need to piss all the time?
Is it because they're raised to believe their feelings have value?

Why are assholes always represented as being extremely attractive in media? This question goes to both sexes. It just confuses me.

>>18128808

people who are attractive dont need to justify wanting the things they want. neither do uggos, but they dont know that yet

>>18128808
Asshole to you just means aggressive and cocksure

>>18128386
It's possible for any human being to change.

>>18128808
Being an asshole is sometimes confused with confidence. One is attractive, one is not.

>>18128439
An internet wiseperson said this forever ago. In my life, I have found it to be quite true:
"When a girl says she's bisexual, it means she can't have a relationship unless it's based around sex. When a guy says he's bisexual, he's about two weeks from going full gay."
I'll agree in concept with >>18128513

>>18128822
No man walks into the same river twice
For it is not the same river
And he is not the same man

>tfw no gf

How can I tell if this girl is really interested in me? been on 2 dates, said shes down for a 3rd date this weekend. But she seems so uninterested when we text that I dont even bother anymore. IRL she tries to make convo which is nice. Shes also constantly on tinder every waking moment of the day. Not sure if shes just in it for the free meals or if she really interested in me

>>18128841
What were these dates like?
What did you do?
How much sex?

>>18128841
Abort senpai

I'm talking with a girl for some weeks by now, we hangout once and both of we are excited for a next date. Everything was running fine until she adds me on facebook, i get myself looking through her photos and i've found a photo of her with a guy, both of them are using that kind of collars that completes the figure when put together (commonly used with bff and couples) and a nice romantic status, none of them shares their relationship status on fb, that was the only picture of them on both profiles and she just likes everything that he posts. That shit makes me confused, i don't know if they are a couple and she is actually cheating on him by dating me or friends does that kind of romantic bullshit. Give me some directions, /adv/.

how long should sex go on for?

ive been sleeping with a girl for awhile and i typically try to keep it under an hour of actual pumping, with breaks for me to calm down while i use her hitachi on her. she typically "orgasms" twice in the process, so it's around an hour or two total.

does that sound reasonable or short?

>>18128858
1st - had lunch and walked around for a bit chatting
2nd - had lunch and went to a museum
Dates were alright, I'm a boring person tho

No sex or physical contact of any kind

>>18128864
>No sex or physical contact of any kind

Dude...

>>18128860
>>18128858
I'm thinking about going for the 3rd date and be like im looking for a relationship (just sex is ok too but I wont say that), are you down? If not lets stop wasting each others time (and my money) y/n?

>>18128862
Ask her in a roundabout way.

>>18128863
Depends on the partner. I've had sensitive girls that practically buck me off and numb ones who take forever, a day, and some fingers to get off. If you think the relationship is deep enough, talk about it. Sex is one of those things that is nice to do without talking about, but it can be quite awesome if you sit down and "monday morning quarterback" it.

>>18128864
Yeah, she might think you have zero interest. Even if she wanted a relationship, and not just sex, you gotta start something. No goodbye kiss? No contact of any kind? Yeah, you pretty much told her "not interested." Try again or get gone.

>>18128864
>No sex or physical contact of any kind

lmao

you fucked it dude

>>18128876
>>18128875
>>18128870
Well I hugged her after the first day does that count

>>18128878
Fucking nope. Unless it was an "embrace," which would be fucking weird first date. Friends hug. Also, it's a little ambivalent. Nobody likes being uncertain and you gave her an uncertain gesture.
Lemme define the basics:
hug: quick, sterile
embrace: long, tight
Again, she's probably thinking you are uninterested. If you get a third date, you have ground to make up.

>>18128883
i doubt she thinks hes "uninterested" but i do think she probably thinks hes a cuck or inexperienced (which may be true, but its not an attractive thing for them to think)

>>18128888
I'm completely unexperienced

>>18128883
How to fix?

>>18128890
>How to fix?

go for a kiss on the next date

if you dont youre basically fucked

>>18128888
Checked and good point.
Then again, it goes towards her just wanting the sex.

>>18128895
>>18128892

I'm thinking about going for the 3rd date and be like im looking for a relationship (just sex is ok too but I wont say that), are you down? If not lets stop wasting each others time (and my money).

Or just go for the kiss and see what happens?

>>18128914

lmao don't talk about about a relationship before even sleeping with her wtf is wrong with you

unless she's also completely inexperienced she'll be like wtf i dont even know what his dick looks like how would i know whether i want to date him

>>18128915
o, Im a gfless virgen, didnt think about that. thx

Girls

Do you have a better impression of a guy when there's a girl with him?

>>18128928
No, I assume she's a girlfriend or sister if they look alike. Why would I?

I'm a 29 year old male (almost 30) and a college grad. I have depression, student loans & CC debt and a decent white collar job. Tons of social akwardness but not autism level. Looks wise I'm a 3-5 imo, tall, white, about 25lb over what my ideal weight (180) and a virgin. I've actually never even attempted to date.

I'm pretty self-aware but bash myself harshly over stupid things, due to my barely existent self-esteem. Also I'm very liberal, while also spending far too much time on /b/.

Is it worthwhile to try and find a date? I feel I know the answer and the ship had long ago sailed, but I dunno. Guess I'm just tired and lonely. And high. (on the last of my legally bought weed)

>>18128945
Some women will like you as you are

But who cares
Go to the gym and lift
It'll make you feel so much better

>>18128875
Do u mean "hey, who is that folk in your facebook" or "hey gurl, so, how was your past relationships"?

^
Hit the gym. will help with female attention. Sets u apart from 90% of other guys

Girls
I am a 23yo virgin who is dangerously close to having sex, what should I expect with women who are more experienced than me?

How big is too big?
I've been going to the gym for almost a year now
I want to get bigger
Always bigger

Girls, what's an good way to approach you if you're waiting for a class?

Not sure how to make it sound natural and not forced.

>>18128973
She's gonna laugh at you

>>18128466
You just haven't found the right one. Your heart will tell you when.

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Girls: Would you date a guy who no longer trusts mazes because of pic related?

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Organised a date, wtf you talk about in the meantime over text? dont wanna run out of shit to talk about

>>18128385
>tfw never the one

>>18128976
"Hey, how do you like X class?"
Talk a bit. Then introduce yourself and leave before the class begins.

>>18129049
We're in the same class, should've specific haha

Girls, would you ever randomly slap your man in front of his friends?

So, the thing is, my girlfriend, two of my friends and I were hanging out and I was making a few offensive jokes about her and she just reacted with a slap on my cheek. I just shrug it off and get back to whatever we were doing, but she did seem like she was regretting it afterwards. Still, the question is, have I lost all respect from her?

>>18129083
Yes, you have. Imagine if you had slapped her in front of her friends.

>>18129083
Uh, I think the fact that you made offensive jokes about her made her lose respect for you...

Am I looking for the impossible in a woman or have a fundamentally flawed list of wants?
>loyalty
>honest
>doesn't play mind games. is upfront with her emotions
>doesn't wear a shit ton of makeup
>not obssessed with pop culture
>not codependet

>>18129096
I think I fit that list. I'm those things almost to a fault, according to my boyfriend.

>>18129096
>is up front with her emotions
Never 100% of the time
>doesn't wear a shit ton of makeup
I don't know what a shit ton is, but the fact you mentioned it makes me wonder of you overreact to makeup

The rest is more than possible

>>18129102
As a subjective measure on the makeup:
If there is an amount of foundation that is apparent in low light, no.
Also, no to unnatural colors.
But help me define "overreacting" to makeup. I personally interpret the amount of makeup as how much she lacks confidence.

>>18128467
Would it stop me from dating you? No. Could it cause a rift in the relationship? Yes.
Just from my own perspective.. I don't mesh with the super religious crowd well. I am agnostic and have no problem with normal levels of religion.. But if your parents are the type to lecture people and get upset if they have different beliefs, it could cause a problem.
It would cause a problem for me personally.. If I can't mesh with people, I can't be around they frequently.
But assuming they're normal people and not bible thumpers, you should have no problem. Just date either a religious girl or someone with an open mind.

>>18129102
>I don't know what a shit ton is
If my shirt is discolored after you press your face against me you're wearing a shit ton of make up.

>>18129123
Foundation that looks caked is too much. There's a grey area. My fiance puts on a nominal amount because her face gets red when she's embarrassed, and gets into a lot of compromising situations as an LNA but she still wants to look professional.

>>18129084
You're right. I don't think I'd ever do that to her regardless of her actions. That's a little upsetting. We were going really great together.

>>18129091
Perhaps. But we both enjoy that kind of humor, so, perhaps not. Even so, a slap just seems a little far off the boundary.

I stopped talking to her after the incident and didn't talk much till I dropped her off. Haven't talked since then. She seemed like she realized what she did was wrong. Wanted to kiss me before leaving, but I backed off. We're very transparent with each other about everything. So, should I just break the ice and talk to her about it or let her come to me with an apology herself?

>>18129057
Yeah. Just ask her if she likes the class and the professor, or what did she think of last class.

What goes on in a cheater's mind?

>>18129083
>Girls, would you ever randomly slap your man in front of his friends?


Not a girl. But it also doesn't take a rocket science to figure out that like >>18129091 implied. You kinda deserved that slap.

You ain't her man if you're trashing her to others like that. You're supposed to have and protect her back, not stab it by actively ruining her rep/face/image.

>>18129096
>Am I looking for the impossible in a woman or have a fundamentally flawed list of wants?

Look man, I'm going to take kind of a shot in the dark here and say you probably don't have much experience with dating/relationships (aka most people here on 4chan,).

The thing about looking for someone is that the more specific and deadest you are about your "list", the more myopic you become, the more limited your pool becomes, which makes it less likely for you to ever actually finding what it is you originally you wanted.

You CAN have preferences and things you're inclined to want, but having limitations and a pessimistic attitude about it will usually only ever paint things in a negative and pessimistic light.

Like with anything else, you can choose to focus on the negative and grumble your way across until you stumble across a magical aberrant, or you can choose to focus on the positive, try to enjoy the process, and be pleasantly surprised if you find something that works.

>>18129116
> I'm a guy who has a huge crush on this one girl
>I'm really attracted to her, and I think most her act is a facade that does not represent her true nature at all.

Sounds like you're willfully ignoring shit so it fits with your percieved image.

Part of being with someone is coming to accept them for who they are, the good AND the bad.

It's fine to give people the benefit of the doubt and to experiment and broaden your horizons (that's basically what I was telling anon above) but what's not fine is to delude yourself and pretend that the bad things don't exist so that it fits your preferred narrative.

>>18129148
"Boy I sure like having sex with multiple people!"

>>18129145
Confront her, aggressive is usually more successful than passive-aggressive

>>18129153
But why get in a relationship then?

>>18128875
>Yeah, she might think you have zero interest. Even if she wanted a relationship, and not just sex, you gotta start something.
Honestly shit like this is one of my big fears. I'm 24 with no casual dating experience, and have no idea how things are supposed to progress.

>>18129096
those are all the most sought after qualities in a woman, that's the ideal woman. So you'd better be the ideal man then.

>9/10 facial aesthetics
>money, roughly 100k or more a year
>Good shape, 6 pack, good chest
>good facial hair
>full head of hair

Because thats the female equivalent of what you're searching for, so if you have those then yes you can find a woman like that. If not, lower your standards.

Can a girl possibly explain this for me?
>coworker who I always had a thing for splits from her bf
>Give her a few weeks then we start talking a bit, we were always close but now we got really close
>This goes on for about a month
>Kiss her goodnight once when I drop her off after a hangout
>People start to assume we're dating, she'd always blush and get red when people brought it up
>She comes over one night and we make out, then we spend the rest of the night cuddling and talking
>Confess our feelings for each other, she says how she has told her best friend about me, how she's thought about kissing me goodbye so many times, etc
>End the night with a kiss
>Two days later hit her up to hang out, she says she can't, no biggie
>Texts me again and says she's not ready for anything serious right now and thinks we should remain friends
>Ask her if she still sees anything for us, she says she doesn't know right now
>Instantly go back to how we were, no awkwardness, still super close and tons of tension
What the fuck?

>>18129183
>Because thats the female equivalent of what you're searching for
You're telling me women don't give a fuck about the character of a man, only his physique?

>>18129192
No, the main important part is what he can provide.

Money, hard work putting food on the table + luxuries that says everything about his character, you can get money while being a lazy fuck who wants the world to serve him everything on a silver platter with no work put in (welfare)

>>18129183
This is retarded and you're retarded

>>18129196
you CAN'T get money while being a lazy fuck**

If you're still working a dead end job making 17$ an hour by the time you're 25-30 its your own fault

>>18129192
I hope you know that's a man answering your question aimed at women.

>>18129096
>>18129183
Funny how the first list consists of all things spiritualistic and the second, all physical. #Feminism

Don't listen to this. I meet none of those requirements and I'm dating someone that checks everything off of your list and mine. Just have hope and a little patience.

>>18129190
>What the fuck?

Not a chick, but it's pretty simple, she even told you exactly what it was: She's not ready for anything serious right now

she panicked because it got too real for her, and she's still hurting/scared over what happened in the past. Right now she can handle the fantasies and she can handle messing around on the surface because those are safe and shallow, but letting herself go too deep, letting herself become vulnerable again is terrifying/something she feels like is too complicated/overwhelming for her to deal with right now.

>>18129202
actually femanon, he asked a question so I gave him an honest answer. You're delusional if you don't think that's the ideal man. If you cant grow facial hair i'm honestly sorry for you. But not making at least 100k a year is your own fault.

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>>18129211
Kek

>>18129213
Lol okay, have fun not attracting women with that attitude, it's pretty obvious you're a niceguy

>>18129211
Now why would somebody do that, just go on the internet and tell lies?

>>18129211
You're saying you can live off the rest of your life with a man that checks off your list but is fucking trash when it comes to character? Well, I suppose you can if all you hope for in a relationship is to go up to other people and impress them and upload hot selfies and make other people jealous about you instead of actually being happy yourself. Good luck with the rest of your life. Lmao.

>>18129221
The fact that it's that hard for you to believe that women go on the internet says everything about your interactions and love life in general.

>>18129218
I'll have you know that I had sex 27 times last week, twice with your mother and once with your dad fgt

>>18129225
That's a man you're replying to. A man who thinks he knows what women want based on what he read on /r9k/

>>18129225
Yeah except their character comes from their hardwork and determination, hence the money.

Sure but keep on saying that you have "character" while working a shitty dead end job

>>18129227
Do you really consider yourself to be an example for all women? Eggs dee.

>>18129227
The fact that you roleplay a shallow gold digger on the internet says a lot about your perception of women.

>>18129233
You are beyond reasoning. If you haven't seen a characterless richfag in your entire life, you've been living in your room for way too long.

>>18129233
And as for the me bit, I'm still an undergrad and will make more money than 90% of the country's population as soon as I get out.

>>18129246
PhD in Maths 300k starting, I presume?

>>18129246
>I'm still an undergrad and will make more money than 90% of the country's population as soon as I get out.

FUCKING LOL...holy shit i needed that laugh

>>18129253
Feels good providing autistic children with laughter, I must say. I should go on charity events more. Thanks, anon.

>>18129233
>He thinks every richfag is a paragon of moral values, hard work and determination and is a self-made entrepeneur/industrialist

Dude, I work in finance and the amount of scummy cunts who act like children while making over 100k is astounding.

>>18129257
Why are you getting so defensive on an anonymous image board if you're so certain in post graduate education. Legitimate question.

>>18129257
>cringe

>>18129261
and how much do YOU make? And whats your job title?

>>18129266
I am a consultant and make approx. 80k a year, a bit more, a bit less depending on the amount of projects I take.

>>18129269
Well then there's a bit of jealousyand btiterness in your original statement

>>18129278
Does it invalidate anything I said?

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>>18129278

Not any of these anons, just someone lurking but, I'ma stop here and call bull.

No jealousy was detected there, just general scorn and a hint of incredulity.

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>>18129292
Different anon here too. I'd also say a consultant's opinion is worth more than someone's who idolizes money and/or people with money. A consultant is hired to tell it like it is, no bullshit and find a solution to the problem. I can imagine how many times consultants roll their eyes at dumbshits who think they know better.

>>18128994
Anything and everything. Ask about her/get to know her. Be silly play dumb somtimes and try to make her laugh. Dont make it an all day thing and somtimes purposly take a long time to text back. Tease her like you would a kid somtimes be rude somtimes and know when to throw in the "jk". Dont make it seem like shes a priortity. Thus she "chases" you. Keep the gentleman and careing nice guy crap to an absolute minimum.

>>18128312
You sound like a bigger neckbeard than a 'nice guy' neckbeard

>>18129190
Lol other guy is flat out wrong. Man you should have fucked one of those nights. She just got out of a relationship and wanted to fuck. Shes either found sombody else thats casual or shes fixing things with her ex. You should of let your hands roam while makeing out and get as far as you could.

>>18129364
Being a gentleman and being a nice guy are two completely different things.

>>18129376
They fall on the same tier.

>>18129381
I wouldn't say so.

>>18129151
So, for my situation, I'm hearing stay positive and don't quit. I only rejoined the dating pool about 18 months ago thanks to finally being done with a very involved job for six years. Pretty much half that time (the 18 months) in relationships. I don't know what happened, but after 6 years in a bubble, I'm spitting some kind of magnetism, it's just been hard to wield.
t. recovering autist.

>>18129183
>>18129196
I'm all of that. But you sound like a cunt, so pass.

>>18129261
That's because those of us in finance have this weird knowledge that is hard to understand, so outsiders see it as black magic, whicc gives all the immature twats god complexes.

>>18129190
Sounds like one of her friends told her to slow down. Exercise some patience.

>>18129417
I guess my point of view is exacerbated by the fact that I'm a consultant and not a regular at company X. Easier to see the retardation, stupidity and immaturity when you're detached from that culture in a way.

>>18129414
>I'm all of that. But you sound like a cunt, so pass
He's some sad faggot from /r9k/ who came here to roleplay a gold digger.

>>18129257
Unless you already have a job lined up you are a complete fool to believe you are guaranteed to make enough money to be upper middle class+ straight out of school

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To girls,
Is it a turn off or turn on when your bf moans or grunts in bed? I have no idea what a guy supposed to sound like as "normal" or "arousing" so I try not to make make too much sound in bed.

Girls

bf asks you to dress up as something in bed, what would you rather dres up as?

school girl/nurse/secretary/nun?

>>18129564
school girl

>>18129447
Just be natural, I find it hot

Stupid question but guys, do you expect girls to sometimes text you first? I met this guy, he has initiated twice and since the last time hasn't contacted me again. Is he not interested anymore or could he want me to initiate? I was raised very traditionally so always expected guys to approach.

>>18129656

If you are interested, starting contact is a great thing to do. I don't think most guys expect you to do it, but we really like it when you do it. It makes the conversation feel more balanced, we start to feel like a bother if we have to contact you each and every time.

>>18129096
>loyalty
the rest is fine but this one is pretty unrealistic.

>>18129656
As long as one person isn't putting in 80-100% of the effort it's no big deal. If you're the one always trying to text first it's a problem for you, same if he was always starting and you didn't give too much response.
If someone cares about you, you become a priority. Unless we are extremely busy with something me and my girl text about every 10-25 minutes throughout the day.

>>18129680
I think less of women as much of the next guy, but legitimately believing that women can't be loyal is a beta level shit

Source: the billions of people before you who lived monogamously

>>18129686
Most cultures before us forced women to be loyal, it's not a natural thing for them.

>>18129690
Citation needed

>>18129693
Pretty much any history book?

>>18129693

Stop Anon, that's a troll. Or a 14 yo. Either way, you are wasting your time. He would see loyal women if he had something to offer.

Why do western women have an obsession with gay guys?

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I grill just said she likes me romantically, I didn't plan for this... Wat do?

>>18129727

This is a joke, right?

>>18129735
100% serious. I have no idea what to do right now.

>>18129737

How old are you? Did she confess via text? Why are you here instead of with her?

Dude, this is so stupid. I feel like someone is making fun of me.

>>18129742
>How old are you?
18
>Did she confess via text?
[spoiler] y-yes [/spoiler]
>Why are you here instead of with her?
^

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>It'd be disingenuous of me to say that it's no different. Apart from anything else, almost everyone's cock feels different when it's inside you - whether it's size, shape, curve or whatever. Over the years I've known guys who bend to the left and right, guys who have cocks both large and small, and one whose dick was an almost conical shape – really slim head growing wider at the base. So yeah, smaller cocks do feel different. There's less of a stretch, you don't feel as full, and you often miss out on some of the cervix-bashing that you get with large dicks in certain positions.

>tfw dicklet
Will I ever be able to make a woman enjoy having sex with me? Will there always be something missing? Fuck me.

>>18129751

Yes "18". Wink.

Listen, this is teenage shit. She likes you? Great! Set up a date and hang out. Go out with her, maybe eat at McDonald's or walk around the mall and have fun.

There's no right or wrong way to do this. You are both young and dumb. Enjoy each other.

And stop coming to 4chan. It will rot your underage mind. We know you are not 18.

>>18129679
>>18129683
Thanks for the advice, makes sense though I a friend told me not to because according to her if he hasn't contacted me yet is because he's not really interested? I always tried to be active and keep the conversation going until last time when he didn't left much room for me to add anything. I might just grow a pair and do it...

>>18129752

1) you can use more than just your dick in sex. Don't be lazy.

2) if she likes you, she will enjoy being with you. You can even do well in one night stands if you learn to sell the fantasy.


Dildo come as large as yuo want them. If lenght was all that mattered, we would never get laid. Learn to offer more than just a dick.

>>18129771
I know that, but PiV is still part of the action, wouldn't she miss someone 'filling' her? What if she needs something I can never offer?

>>18129712
gays are so 2015, no-one cares anymore

>>18129778
>What if she needs something I can never offer?

How many times has that been a problem for you?

Also, no, it's perfectly fine to have a sex encounter with no penis in vagina action. Every has sex their own way. As ling as everyone leaves more or less satisfied, there are no obligatory steps.

>>18129183
>women are incredibly shallow and materialistic

>>18129414
>So, for my situation, I'm hearing stay positive and don't quit.

Yeah that's definitely part of it.

But also don't put yourself in a box, don't judge what you *think* you want before you've actually experienced it, and don't go in automatically assuming you know what's up--because that alters your perception and can interfere with reality.

I'll give you a couple examples from my own life (There's TL:DR's):

>a few years back A friend was deadset on setting me up with her childhood best friend (probably partially because she was dating MY childhood best friend). For months she kept talking about how how awesome her best friend was, and how awesome we'd get along, and she apparently kept doing the same to her best friend about me.

>One day while visiting, we're both finally happen to be there at the same time. We meet, and I guess we both kind of have the mentality of, "I don't really like it when people try to set me up". We talk a few times through the night, and my initial impression of her was pretty much, "I don't see what the hubub was about. Not my type. Not really interested. ". and we pretty much ignore each other for the rest of the weekend before heading back. We don't see each other again

>Fast forward a couple years. My friend is graduating and moving back home (taking my best friend along with her) so they ask if they can crash at mine for a last hurrah, I say of course. Her friend is also graduating and doing the same and she kind of shows up along with.

>I take them out to dinner to celebrate and congratulate them, and we have a pretty good night out. The couple decides to peace out early and it ends up just me and her friend having a few drinks while just chatting.

Cont (1/3)

>>18129794
Cont (2/3)
>And more we chat, the more we realize: Shit... We basically have a lot of similar interests, our senses of humor are similar, the way we think is super compatible, and there's a kind of mad chemistry between us.One thing leads to another and we end up sleeping together and having one of the best nights either of us has ever had. It was the first time I ever woke up the morning after with a smile on my face that wouldn't fade.

>We end up realizing (and are loathe to admit): our friend was right. We're basically compatible on every level be it intellectually, emotionally, or sexually.

>But here's the rub: For the past couple of years we've lived about 30 miles away from each other, but we both know we're basically never going to see each other again after this because she's JUST graduating and is moving back home, half a thousand miles away. So that's the end of that.

TL:DR Met a girl that was awesome in every regard. But our initial negative mentalities completely fucked over our perceptions, which meant that by the time we actually DID get to know each other, it was too late. We missed out.

Second story:
>About few years ago I decide to join a dating website because, "fuck it, why not?". At this point I'm casually dating just to go out and have a night of fun. One day I randomly message a girl, not really because I'm expecting anything, but more on a whim. From what's in her profile, she's not someone that would immediate catch my eye, but we chat for a bit, and she seems kind of intriguing and she asks if I want to go out. Now we don't really have much in common or have many similar interests, but I figure again, "sure, why not" and we agree to meet for coffee

>First date, I walk in pretty casually, and the first hour or so is kind of awkward because she's a little nervous, but we start chatting and I start getting her to be more comfortable and we're having a decent time so I invite her to grab some dinner and a few drinks. She agrees

>>18129196
why would you expect a man to provide anything for you? my ex was broke as fuck while I was making a significant amount of money at the time but I never gave her a dime or bought her anything simply because she shared that attitude. you want 100k a year, go fucking make 100k a year

>>18129788
I often hear women complaining about someone so and so whom they couldn't 'feel it'. PiV might not get them off but it's pretty obligatory for most girls.

>>18129800
Cont (3/3)

>As the night goes on, the more I get a sense that this person is someone who is a genuinely decent person. And the more I realize I like the kind of person she is. A couple hours in I've gone from mildly curios to definitely interested. By the end of he night, I actually have a moment where I think to myself, "There's something potentially real here. I don't want to rush things and fuck it up"

>Start of second date I'm actually nervous for the first time in YEARS. I still want to take it slow. Still having that, "Don't want to fuck it up" mentality
>Third date: We become a couple (was a kind of fuck it, we both know where this is going moment lol)
>2 years later: We're still together, shopping around for a place to move in. Happiest either of us have ever been in a relationship.

TL:DR: I dropped all notions of what it is I thought I wanted, and just walked through life taking things as they came and to enjoy the moment. Because of that, I bumped in to someone who I NEVER would have otherwise--someone who makes me happier than I've ever been.

I remember back in my heyday of dating, I went on A LOT of dates with people I wouldn't normally be interested in, and the vast majority of them didn't work out of course, but through it I did learn a lot about what it is I wanted vs needed, who i was as a person, and how people functioned. I grew as a person because of it. All of even my shittiest of dates just either became funny stories or lessons for self-improvement.

So my 2c. When it comes to dating the most important things are: to be open minded, to stay optimistic, and to keep on keeping on because the vast majority of the time, it will not work out but that's OK, because you will always be able to get SOMETHING positive out of it (as long as you're willing to think that way).

The alternative is you do nothing, and get nothing. Or do go out, but be close minded and miss out on what you were looking for all along.

>>18129809

Again, maybe that's all the guy could do, so that's all they could talk about.

And I see you didn't answer my question.

>>18129829
How many times it happened to me? Actually once, she wasn't my gf or anything serious though.

At this point I'm accepting that I'd be just a boyfriend/husband material at most and I'll never be able to make a woman actually lust after and fall in love with me.

>>18129846

If every person would let a single asshole/bitch destroy their self esteem, then noone would get laid.

Again, and I hopr for the last time. If all you have to offer to make a girl lust or love you is your dick, then you have worse problems than a small penis, mate.

>>18129846
>At this point I'm accepting that I'd be just a boyfriend/husband material at most and I'll never be able to make a woman actually lust after and fall in love with me.

....

Not that anon, but so many things wrong in this statement I don't even know where to start....

You got self-esteem issues and spend too much time on this website bro. Your world view is pretty warped. Go spend some time outside, and maybe consider seeing someone professional to work through your issues

Remember: This is a moving picture image board that hosts a bigoted sub-sector of people that unironically try to draw their misogynistic inspiration from a movie created by two trans-gendered females.

Don't take the shit here see on here too seriously.

>>18129860
>This is a moving picture image board that hosts a bigoted sub-sector of people that unironically try to draw their misogynistic inspiration from a movie created by two trans-gendered females.

Not the guy you are talking to, but what? What movie are you talking about?

>>18129860
I've heard girls talk irl though, I lived with three of them. This shit is pretty real.

>>18129868
The Matrix.

>>18129874

Both of the brothers are women now? That's what was confusing me, but ok.

>>18129868

Reference to Red Pill
Which is taken from The Matrix
Which was made by the Wachowski brothers
Who are now the Wachowski sisters

>>18129869

Dude, please, dude. What else could tjey talk about? Most dudes flop on top of a girl for a few minutes and then fall sleep.

You can do better than that if you get your head out of you ass.

>>18129883

Yeah, I missed the second one coming out. Thanks!

>>18129886
Better how?

>>18129903

Doing more. Either sex moves or learning to sell the fantasy. If she loves you, sex will feel better for her. If she admires you, so will it.

People are more than a dick or a pussy. Learn to show more than that. Eat her out, finger her, talk dirty, make sex something fun.

>>18129886
>>18129903
Didn't follow the entire conversation but this is true. Men gush about how much they love sex but at least when young they are typically happy to fuck like they're rubbing one out. No eroticism or desire, no playing around psychologically or with foreplay, just getting up in there already and nutting. If you think this is an exaggeration, where I live (rich Western European country) there was a recent study that showed ~one in five women to (semi-)regularly experience pain from intercourse, not because they have health issues but simply because their partner won't wait for them to be turned on enough and jams it in too soon. This not only kills someone's sex drive in the long term, but painful/unpleasant intercourse can actually cause vaginismus (where the vagina literally shuts down and doesn't allow insertion anymore).

Either way, not saying this to make men look like monsters because most girls aren't sex goddesses either when they're in their teens/twenties and will fumble or wallow in their insecurities or not do anything at all. And in most of these cases it's less that guys sincerely all around don't want to be a satisfying lover and more that they are a bit self-centered and a bit awkward, combined with having watched the ultimate male fantasies for years (that don't happen to have much in common with sex that women enjoy) through porn.

If you are attentive, if you want to turn someone on, if you put in energy and passion, you are already ahead of the average person. Seriously. Not to mention real sex appeal doesn't boil down to a specific set of body parts but to your attitude, how much you love sex, how well you can flirt. It's that naughty/playful edge, knowing how to make someone squirm. That shows in how you carry yourself, how you look at others, how you engage them and talk to them.

Girls, why are you so distracting?

>>18129933
Was going to reply, remembered I'm a girl, forgot all about your question. Sorry.

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>>18129933
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>>18129929

Couldn't have said it better. A lot people in this board should read this one.

I doubt there's any black girls on here but, what's up with weaves? My girl would have amazing hair if she grew it out, she wears braids and straight weaves, would it be weird for me to ask her to look for something curly?

>>18129957

Would it be weird if she used your ethnicity to ask you about how you look? And then told you to change your look?

>>18129963
It wouldn't be weird, there's no racial tension between us. Plus I'm a filthy sexy Romanian gypsy and my hair will turn white in my 30s like my dad and grandad. But I get what you mean, I do like her style but curly hair gets me wild.

Is it stupid to suggest 2 different possible activities when asking a girl out?

Otherwise... would you recommend asking her to go see La La Land (though Idk if she's into movies in general) or to go have some vegan ice cream at some mall (she's vegan)?

Guys, /adv/ is really making me hate women.
Like guys come on here with petty bullshit, cringe, /r9k/ shit.
But women come on here with legit fucking STUPID decisions and situations they find themselves in because they can't thing ahead more than two minutes. Then come on here and go "fix this"

It really is very similar to dealing with an autistic person except to everyone who identifies as female. Just complete utter failure to read a social situation correctly and make a smart decision
Fuck me man I need a break. I do this for free

>>18129993

Didn't some possible date location come up while talking to her?

>>18130002
I can only think of the vegan ice cream thing in that case. Otherwise a rock concert but there aren't any these days.

>>18129998

Yeah, the guys never ask "I spilled my spaghetti, how to fix?". Come on!

>>18130010
There's a difference between spilled spaghetti and "my significant other is awful in every way but I won't break up ever until wow this cataclysmic event happened who knew this would happen I'm such a victim and now my life is fucked because I made myself so dependent on a shithead."

>>18129998
Get off 4chan?
Or get off 4chan?
You know that the people who use this site are a terrible cross section of society as a whole

>Coworker's been looking for a new job for a while
>Just found out the job they applied for isn't interested
>Texts us that we're stuck with them a little longer
How do I reply to this? I want to say something sympathetic or encouraging but I'm having trouble with how to word it.

>>18130017

There's a guy right now who made a thread about his fiance being a crazy bitch and how he should break up but still needs us to tell in to do it.

So, you are full of shit.

>>18129751
Tell her to fuck off because she is a whore

>>18130028
Can you stop? Really obvious what gender you are

>>18130017
>>18130028
Look up confirmation bias.

Besides the entirety of /r9k/ is essentially
>I sat on my ass my entire life and never tried to go after what I wanted and now I want to be compensated or revenged for only just realizing you're supposed to put in some effort

I don't want to have sex with someone I don't like as a person, yet I can't find a girl which I will like that way. What to do?

>>18130034
Dude, if you think someone providing an example that goes against your generalization is meaningless if they're a woman, you really need to get a grip on yourself.

>>18128538
I use to be really into watching guys jack off to porn but it's hard to find those videos, Then I got into gay porn for a bit (very vanilla gay porn) now i've found my self watching amateur homemade videos I have always been a big fan of compilation though, (money shots edited together). Use to be a fan of blow bangs too when I 1st started watching

before i had ever had sex i watched porn pretty frequently. Then I got a fwb and after that i stopped watching it and even after it ended between us i rarely watched it. Now I'm talking to this new guy and we've only been making out and I recently started watching again. Idk man it's weir. I haven't had sex in a year and kind of forgot what I'm suppose to do Im sort of just taking notes right now

>>18130034

Male? Cause that's what I am.

Also, how about you reply to my argument instead of bitching and deflecting?

>>18130041
Jerk off more. Buy yourself a fleshlight if you're feeling fancy. If you're wealthy, invest money in sexbot development.

>>18130037
Incorrect interpretation of my post
>>18130044
Yeah,I knew you were male

>>18129993
I would suggest date in the park. Start in one point of it and walk around for a while. After some time go to some restaurant nearby.

>>18128538
Only stuffing porn (guys & girls depending on my mood).
It ranges from ~five times a week to not at all for weeks. Ultimately I prefer masturbating to my imagination anyway.

>>18130046
Can't really jerk off more because I'm a soldier and I have to live with 6 people in a room (I'm not american)

>>18130048
Confirmation bias is a real thing and it's not 1:1 the same but both instances where people blame everyone but themselves for the way they chose to live their life.

>>18130052
It's not bias. This is entirely different

>>18130048

Ok, and how do you refute my example?

>>18130051
Try to see if you're bi enough to get fucked by/fuck a man.

And if not, decide that sex is not in the plans for you and decide what your priorities are going to be now. What you do instead to relax, what you do instead to feel good and so on.

>>18130057
When you stop being rude I'll do it

>>18130054
If you are saying that something is inherently female to do, someone points out an example that shows that this behavior isn't limited to women (at all, I have been lurking these threads for years, men usually don't get as far as the example you gave but I've seen tons of "girls this girl is treating me like shit and ignoring me and has for months and someone else fucks her but she's so pretty and I love her so much and should I serenade her or try something else?") you gloss it over and essentially discard it right away, then yeah it's confirmation bias.

Although honestly if you pay as much attention to male as to female posts I have a hard time believing you find victim complex less well represented among men to begin with.

I am afraid to approach women because they could be either much older or much younger then me, any mindset you could tell me about to get over this fear?

>>18130063
>"girls this girl is treating me like shit and ignoring me and has for months and someone else fucks her but she's so pretty and I love her so much and should I serenade her or try something else?"
Forgot about the sequel, "girls I serenaded her and patiently waited around for a year and now she got together with McDouche, why are women so fucking shit???"

>>18130049
That sounds good, thanks, but sorry for this mega autist question: in that case should I just ask her to "hang out/go for a walk in the park"? I feel like it would be missing something, like it's way too casual to suggest doing just that.

>>18129936
This couldn't be more accurate. 10/10

>>18129935
Girls are immune to it.
Why do you distract men? Why don't you help us by avoiding being distracting?

>>18130066
I wish I did. I think I have the same problem, we are like age blind or something. I guess always assume younger looking girls are under 18 until they prove otherwise, it's safer that way. And I guess try to approach women in places where it's more likely for them to be your age?
And I don't know about you but I think if you are in your 20s, anyone 18 and up is okay. If you are in your 30s anyone 20 and up is okay. Age differences get shorter as you get older.
As long as they are over 18 or over 20 I think everyone has a different level of maturity so you can maybe try to not think of their age as a number or as anything of relevance since they are consenting adults anyway.

>>18130069
I don't know what type of girl she is but mention why you think she might like that. For example:
>I know you don't like crowds, so maybe you want to meet up at the park for a walk. We could eat [insert food name] after that

Worked for me

>>18130081
Oh I see, thanks!

>>18130083
No problem, you can also suggest walking yours or hers dog if you're good with animals and wants her to see that. Restaurant fails after that but you can grab something diffrent then

>>18130051
Use your sexual frustration to gain confidence and do one night stands while on leave

t. Been there done that for 347 days

>>18130087
You missed the part where nobody is good enough for him.

>>18130080
I am 25 and appreciate you trying to help me.

>>18130087
But I don't want to do that, that's why I asked

>>18130090
Then he can use Tinder to get to know the one night stand before fucking her.

>>18130086
Ahah yeah I thought of that too once, we both love animals and each have a dog. I get along well with her dog and I think she got another new dog recently.

Guys, I think I'm a little too into my girlfriend. More than she's ready for. Now how do I emotionally distance myself a little?

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What would you think about a guy that is 22 and still lives with his mom?

My friends have moved out of there parents. BUT THEY HAVE HAD THERE COLLEGE PAID FOR BY THEIR PARENTS. I'm paying off a 5 figure debt myself, out of my own money with no help. I could move out rn if I didn't have this debt hanging over me.

>FUCKING A!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why does society look down on me for mooching off of my mom, when in reality my friends are mooching thousands upon thousands of college tuition from their parents? Nobody looks down on you when your parents pay for your college, BUT WHEN YOU WORK 12 HOUR DAYS TO PAY FOR YOUR OWN $10,000 DEBT AND HAVE TO LIVE WITH YOUR PARENTS AS A RESULT, PEOPLE LOOK DOWN ON YOU.

What can I do? How unattractive is it to still live with your mom?

>>18130099
Do something you think she might like. If you really like talking with her don't go to movies at the start.

If you think that dogs might be too distracting go without them, do what feels right

>>18129957
black girl here, it could be a protective style. Black hair is really hard to maintain so many black women opt for this styles cause they are easy to manage. If you want to encourage her to go natural I guess you could bring it up. Many black women these days are going to natural

>>18130102
Get side chicks.

>>18130093
>Set up Tinder or whatever
>Go on dates while on leave
>See if you end up liking someone
>Fuck

>>18130108
*their *THEIR

>>18130108
Calm down friend, normal people don't care about that as long as you obviously not mooching
Do you study/work study hard? Do you contribute to the household (either by paying rent, utilities or doing housework)? Do you have ambitions and a plan for the near future?

If yes, not mooching.
If sitting in front of 4chan in all your spare time and expecting your mother to cook for you still, you are mooching

>>18130108
i'm 20/f and still living at home, no debt cause i didnt go to college
it wouldn't be unattractive to me but i also worry the same as you

>>18130114
She gets upset when I even say "Hi" to someone without a penis that isn't my family.

>>18130125
Well, you don't need to tell her about everything. Trust me, you'll regret not going for other girls once she dumps you or cheats.

>>18130108
Lmao where I live is the opposite. My parents are paying for my college and almost everyone looks down on me like I'm pathetic because of that. I have few friends for that reason but I'm okay with it, fuck people.
Either way, where I live most people don't move out until they are 25 or so.

>>18130127
Great advice. One thing I don't get. Why is romantic unavailability the most attractive trait a guy can have?

>>18130137
Wanting what you can't have and the fun of a challenge maybe? Idk either tbqh though.

>>18130108
isnt it... normal?

calm the fuck down, society isn't looking down on you, it's honestly normal nowadays, come back when you're 32

seriously stop overreacting, you're the one making it a big deal by being self conscious about it, just act like there's nothing wrong with it... because that's true. i'm not trying to comfort you i'm genuinely confused and concerned on why you're freaking the fuck out with the caplocks and shit over nothing.

coming from a 20 years old girl who lives with her parents and know bunch of people in their 20' who does, as well as people who had an appartement since they're 17 (and most of them wasnt by choice, they had to) : it's not unattractive and nobody cares

freaking the fuck out for nothing and being self conscious, however, is unattractive.

>>18129447
dude, that's hot.
why wouldnt you like your partner expressing pleasure when he's having sex with you?

>>18130060

Hahaha, I'm the rude one? You come here bitching about girls being dumb but I'm the rude one?

>>18130028
you, i like you

What does being "subtle" about wanting sex mean?

Do I make sexual comments and jokes?

And don't come up with a response with just "yes" or "no"

Girls

How can I tell if your laughter is legitimate?

I talk too much in a class and there's this girl who I sit beside that I really like. During lectures I'll blurt out anything in an attempt to make her laugh but I can't tell if she's entertained or embarrassed.

>>18130194
Maybe

>>18130194

Yes.

I mean, you know how to be subtle other stuff, right? It's like that but with sex.

>>18130194
I don't know

>>18130194
Could you repeat the auestion?

>>18130194
No.

>>18130195
their eyes.
or if their smile fade away right after, it may be fake, or at least exaggerated

>>18128310
Is asking something along the lines "can I kiss you?" from a girl considered "beta" for the lack of a better word?

I'm kissless-hugless-virgin but I'm soon going to a second date and I don't really know how to proceed. Should I just go for it without hesitations at the end of the date?

I'm 20 and she's 22 for reference

Why can't I convince myself that a woman is can love and appreciate me for who I am and how do I stop thinking this way?

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>have female friend I only see occasionally
>the idea of dating her has crossed my mind a few times
>she's really affectionate and caring towards me but when I talk to our mutual friends about it they tell me it's nothing special and she's like that way to everyone
>insist that I will ruin our friendship if I ask her out and that she would probably say no

I mean I have no problem remaining friends with her, I value that. I can get over rejection easy and remain friends with someone, but the problem is that our friends think her view of me would change and that would be what would ruin our friendship.

Should I just listen to them and not rock the boat?

>>18130194
Nope, mentioning sex isn't subtle. I'll give you some concrete examples to get an idea. Disclaimer is that everyone has different preferences and some stuff in the subtle category will be still too forward for some. It's for the contrast. Topic I chose for the example is showing a woman you're into her in general.

Being obvious about it:
>whistling, cat calling, faking that you're fainting, you get the idea
>compliments like "you're one of the most beautiful women I've seen"
>staring silently
>hover handing her wherever she goes, trying to grope her or smack her ass

Being more subtle:
>showing your natural signs of attraction: standing and sitting just a little closer, smiling and laughing more easily, getting flushed more easily, leaning towards her
>let her catch you do a discreet/quick up and down checking her out
>prolonged eye contact
>compliments that give sexual associations without explicitly being about how she's sexy - no, she's feisty, or naughty, or playful, or spirited, passionate etc (obviously it should fit the occasion and not be random)
>remarks about how you assume other people find her attractive (eg her telling you she got something for free, you telling her it's probably just because he was into her etc)

Now you don't always have to be subtle and act like sex is a forbidden word. It is in part dependent on what your signature style is, it depends on the kind of woman she is, and how good the set up is. It's not that you cannot mention sex or she'll shrivel up.
The thing is that a HUGE part of the attraction of flirting is that would-or-wouldn't-they. People are inherently ungrateful and value what they might be able to get over what they have.

Say she mentions doing something gymnastic. You could joke to her about how that's great, she's probably superflexible and can do all positions. If this girl is into you/sexually open/turned on anyway, she'll act a bit affronted but will be flattered or even a bit aroused.

>>18130225

Neither. Read her mood and body language. Don't ask, but don't spring it on her. Start with light contact and see how she reacts. If she doesn't seem comfortable sitting next to you, for example, it's pretty obvious she will not want a kiss later.

>>18130240
BUT you cement yourself to her as another man drooling over the very idea of (sex with) her and her body. That's a clear cut case.

If she mentions doing this gymnast thing and you just give tell her that's very cool and then make a joke about how [since watching Spiderman or whatever the fuck] you never know when you need that inane flexibility to save your ass. Or you can be more daring and go for something like "gymnastics, cool, I for one have a lot of respect for flexible people" as a more tongue in cheek cover reference.

But the actual phrasing doesn't matter, it can take countless different forms, my point is that by doing this you both bring her attention to something sexual but you do not actually show your hand and do not give her the gratification of knowing for sure that you are into her. You basically let her know that you're a sexual man who likes some of that stuff and at least isn't disgusted by her (or is flat out intrigued by her), without falling at her feet. That's much more interesting because it leaves a risk, it leaves excitement, room for your imagination to fill.

>>18130225
Right, you can't just sit on your ass and hope that one day girls come up and kiss you, or initiate the first move.

You will regret it later for not asking, trust me. If you ask, and the moment wasn't right or it was too soon, you will learn incredibly valuable information that could never be taught. You can't afford not to ask her.

Just look her in the eye. Say "Can I kiss you?"

Nothing autistic about it, don't try to be "smooth" chad and recreate what you see in fake TV shows and go in for the kiss without saying something first, that's fucking autistic and awkward.

>>18130233
Accept that you can't convince yourself that because that's simply not true at all, there are exception but women in general like the power a man can convey, not himself as a person.

>>18130233
You have to make a change, decide right now that you are good enough. You are worth it right now, not when you getting a better job, not when you get more skills, you are ready right now.

Listen to these, truly believe each and every word you hear. Affirmations are powerful in the human mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnqDorh6yNw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCJkTXS4LoA

>>18129161
Love

I noticed that a girl in my lecture has similar interests as me be chance, but I don't want to be weird and make it seem like I was watching her. How can I approach her and bring it up?

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>Be biscum
>Match a cute guy on tinder
>He messages me "Hey man, how's it going?"
>Respond "Hey, good! Just got back from some errands. How about yourself?"
>He replies "Good, thanks for asking."

No wonder girls hate when guys do this. Holy shit.

Do you get attracted whenever a guy talks down to you?

I don't necessarily mean intentionally blatantly being an asshole.

>>18130380

You can't. Sorry, if you are already building the "OMG! We have so much in common!" shit in your head, then there's no way a conversation with her will go smoothly. You are already expecting you two to click just based on superficial interests, so... move along, better luck next time.

>>18130392
What? So who the fuck are you supposed to talk to? It's not like I want her as my fucking wife, just want to be friends or if we get along date.

>>18130403
>just want to be friends or if we get along date.

You don't know her, how do you want to be her friend? Why do you want to be her friend?

>>18130406
Because she has similar interests? Honestly what the fuck kind of stupid question is that? Going by your theory nobody would have friends.

>>18130413

No, see, I never found myself staring at a guy in class, hearing he likes the same music as me, and then going to talk to him, imagining that maybe we could date later.

Usually, I talk to people first, and then decide to make the effort to hang out.

>>18130419
Your saying it's stupid to try to befriend someone who likes to do the same stuff. So I should talk to random strangers instead? Like, how the fuck does that make more sense to you?

>>18130426

How did you make all the friends you have?

I made mine talking in class, or when my friends introduced other people to me. I literally never "decided" to make a friend. Did you? Did it work?

>>18130432
Yes lol, most people start talking to others with similar interests. Like the kids on the football team talk to each other, kids who like games become friends. I've never heard of someone who has friends basically arranged for them.

>>18130435

No, no, no, you don't get it. Arrangement has nothing to do with this.

Yeah, you share a team and you start talking. Great! But did you ever see a guy and said "I want to be his friend, I'll go talk to him!"? Or did it just happen organically by sharing the space?

>>18130444
Ya I do, if I notice a guy playing a game I like and he's not busy I ask him about it. It's such a normal thing to do. Most of my close friends I met like that. A few were friends of friends at the time. This is different because it's not a casual environment.

>>18130449
>This is different because it's not a casual environment.

No, this is different because you like her and have yet to establish contact.

I mean, you have made friends in class, right? Why should this one be different?

>>18130454
Because they weren't huge lectures. If I saw it I'd just walk up and talk to them. I'm not gonna be like "hey I saw you doing _______ in class last week". It's kinda awkward if it's not on the spot.

>>18130456

Then what can we do? If you can't even make male friends in this setting, you won't be able to approach this girl, either.

Though luck, move on.

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There's a girl that I'm kinda into. We spoke around Xmas and she knew all this stuff about me from mutual friends (I guess), and I kinda started to find her pretty attractive. She was supposed to join a group of friends and me for dinner that day, and I figured I'd talk to her more then.

Problem is, she didn't show up, and that was the last time I've spoken to her. I see her almost weekly, but problem is she's never really anywhere near me, and she doesn't do any group activities with the group of friends I thought we shared. I'm getting a little impatient, because I wanted to get to know her a bit better, but it just hasn't happened. I feel like my only option is just walking up to her and asking her if she wants to go out on a date.

I'm by no means a bold person, I usually try to get to know someone before even trying to date them, but this strategy isn't really working now, and I'm tired of being so passive. The day we talked, I kinda thought she might be flirting with me, so I had hoped that would help my chances.

Girls, how receptive would you be to a guy you only sort of know just asking you out? I can't figure out if this is something totally normal, or if I'd blow my chances by not getting to know her first and making her more comfortable around me. She does seem pretty shy/withdrawn so I'm honestly afraid I might just spook her.

This is a relatively conservative setting by the way (church (I know))

>send message to girl on okcupid
>she responds
>exchange a few more messages
>we have things in common
>she bubbly af
>say we should meet up on X at Y
>she says that time isn't going to work because of an event at that time but has no plans for the weekend
>tell her i'll get back to her if I'll be available
>message her later the next day giving a set date and time for X
>agrees
>send her a msg saying if she needs to contact me here is my #
>she texts me later that night telling me who it was and told me she turned her notifications off on okc and to contact her via text
>we exchange 2 more texts about a discussion we were having
>she sent the last text
>still logs into okc

Would it be bad if I asked her how her event went today? The last girl I fucked up because I asked way too many questions before the first date and got a "i dont think I can go out with you" the day of the date even though we still ended up going on 4 dates.

>>18130559
When you send the first message and she said she cant because of X reason you should not contact her anymore, if it's either true or she cared she would contact you later.

guy at work has mentioned twice that I'm a "keeper" not to my face but I have overheard it, what does this mean? I'm not pretty, I'm thin and work hard, help and bring in left over sweets into work

>>18130195
eyes, if they have wrinkles around their eyes then that means they are genuinely laughing not just a fake smile

>>18130577
Hmm... Well she did immediately say that her weekend was free. Too late to not respond now.

>>18130579
>I'm thin and work hard

This is it in a nutshell, you take care of yourself and you seem like a straight, reliable person.

>>18130625
i never smile or talk to anyone other than asking questions yet guys joke that I'm a mess?! and ask what I'm smiling about when they see me smilling
i think they are flirting with me but the girls at work are so much prettier than me (we work in fast food)
I don't even know why I'm asking since I'm fucking terrified by people and never want to touch or be with a human or am I just denying all this shit because of my insecurities
fuck why can i marry beer
sorry I'm drunmk

>>18130682
Men aren't hypergamic like women are, we don't seek the hottest and prettier all the time, specially if it's for 'keeping' as it seems to be your case.

>>18130682
Plus, I think I think you might be underestimating how attractive you look for guys. We are horndogs, most of us.

>>18130682
>am I just denying all this shit because of my insecurities

Yes.

sorry for long text, i'm really confused

>know this guy for about 1 year
>looks handsome, funny, we like similar stuff (amateur gamemaking, anime, eastern europe etc) but constantly bragging, especially about girls
>don't really like him at first because of that
>often messages me on normiebook, sometimes calls me on skype (we don't live in the same cities)
>at some point he keeps sending me snaps and flirty messages
>meet him at a party in his city few days later while i was visiting a friend that lives here too
>have fun but i don't stay with him all the time, after all i pretty much only find him good looking at this point
>he comes tell me (then to my friend) basically "wow i just kissed a girl shit was so cash can't stop thinking about it"
>well, shit, he probably wasn't hitting on me after all, but i don't really care
>don't talk to him anymore about that, i don't like manwhores
>then he messages me again, keeps texting me talking about games etc, we meet again with his best friend
>i keep making fun of his bragging about girls, admits (eyes down) he hasn't had sex for a long long time
>he keeps looking at me, looks very nervous
>lol wtf he kissed another girl the other day, it's pretty amusing at this point desu
>i end up staying the night at his parent's place, he shows me those guro manga yt videos, telling me "omg that's so disgusting i'm not sure i can show you that"
>watch it and make fun of him for being fragile af
>tells him he acts like a 15 year old while being flirty (i think? i'm pretty much autistic desu)
>he's paranoid about me waking up his stepdad (autistic moments have been had)
>i sleep in another room
>tfw realizing that i have a huge crush on him now and i can't sleep at all
>it's pretty much doing me the same effect as like 4 pills of xtc, i'm extremely confused, i never have crushes like this
>after i leave he keeps messaging me a lot, asks me if i go to local con, i don't because i have to visit my parents, he doesn't go either

>>18130729
>then he completely stops messaging me, doesn't even send snaps anymore
>really don't understand, he was very flirty before
>well, it's dead for me, i accept it
>one week later i sent him a video i made for advice (he's the only person i know making that stuff too), nothing flirty or anything, just asking advice
>says the montage is shitty, doesn't answers when i ask him why (i really don't mind harsh criticism, since i'm an d/ic/k)
>i really don't understand since he licked my ass about my work (pixel art, photoshop etc) for months
>few days later i see his best friend who clearly wants to give me the D

I really don't understand what happened, but i still can't stop thinking about him, and i don't want to talk about it to my friends since they find him autistic and would make fun of me for liking him

>>18130739
How old are you again?

>>18130698
>hypergamic
??, according to google means marrying up, so what you are saying is that when you are happy or content you don't feel the need to look else where?
I don't know I don't see the point of datin since I'm only 20 and I think most guys my age want to get as much pussy as possible maybe I should try for older guys since thye are more for settling down?
I don't want to date if I don;t see a long term future with them
might sound gay but whatever>>18130700
nah definitley not underestimating my attractiveness we wear hats at work where i can hide my 6head so I might look better than without out it
>>18130723
thNks for all the advice guys
guys still confuse me you guys are aliens
have a nice night

>>18130757
i'm 20 and the eastern european man is 22

>>18130698
are you serious?

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A couple days ago I was with my guy friend and we were sitting close kinda watching movies together.
There was a second where we messed around a bit just a play fight and 99% sure I felt a full erection on my lower arm.
I don't know what to think of this I always thought he didn't have sexual feelings for me.

Do men easily get erections from the touch of girls they don't even find attractive? Or does he have actual sexual feelings for me?

>>18130777
Yes?

>>18130783
We get erections from physical contact with girls.