so settle an argument for me; today in class a friend of mine

As a comfy first worlder, I'm more than aware I'd be FUCKED if I had to live in a third world shithole. No way.

>>18119518
that's exactly my hypothesis

he appertly thinks he's bear grills and can "even hack it out in somolia if he was black"

in my experience, first world babies are fucking idiots who think vacationing in 5 star resorts and attending Full Moon parties makes them worldly and well cultured

that said, some third world countries are definitely better than others, and almost every single one can be an amazing place if you're wealthy enough.

generally i hate engaging in conversation with naive first world babies tho so i understand your frustration OP

>>18119546
>if you're wealthy enough
sadly 9/10 people are not.

i hate when i see american tourist in latin america. they think south america is one big zip line park.

>>18119573
stop making blanket assumptions please, there are over 300 million people in america

>>18119576
yet they all still depend on 3rd world countries.
and when 3rd world countries try to fix themselves, they are called communist and the fake american lead cia coups start.

"regime change" is code word for "oil price change"

THAT is not a blanket statement. that's proven history.

>>18119383

>who's right or wrong? me or him?

Neither of you are wrong or right. Its a hypothetical situation with millions of variables that neither of you can predict. On top of that, this argument is pointless and proves nothing.

>>18119611
so i'm right?

They could definitely survive, but it would require a lot of adaptation. There are people from first world countries living all over the world now. I know I wouldn't be happy living in a third world country, at least not at first, but I could definitely survive.

>>18119615

>so i'm right?

Can you read?

>>18119624
yeah i can. can you sarcasm?

>>18119585
sure, but don't make the assumption that it happened because the people in America wanted it to. It happened because it made a small group of extremely wealthy Americans slightly more wealthy. The exact same reason third world countries are shitholes.

>>18119617
>There are people from first world countries living all over the world now

yeah, retirees, people taking advantage of the currency exchange imbalance.

it's only good for them because they use the dollar or euro, try using soles or pesos to get by. then we are talking about survival.

so I would have to disagree. people who grow old in 3rd world countries are genetically gifted or EXTREMELY lucky. or both.

a cold in america, means a couple days of discomfort and bed with netflix. a cold in panama, most of the time means death.

it's survival of the fittest.

something most first world people are not built for

>>18119644
no no.

it happened because Americans wanted it to.
you all hold responsibility. all of you.

same way ALL Germans held responsibility for Hitlers rise to power. im sure not all germans wanted to exterminate an entire race of people, but they still let it happen and fell for his nationalistic bullshit propaganda. hitler was a fascist from day one. and so is america. the whole cold war was a lie, people wanting to destroy communism? for what? because communist wont trade oil with you at a nice price. not because "they hate our freedom" but you dummies fell for it and backed world wide genocide.

and at the end of the day, it's white americans who feel like it's their country that's being taken way from them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

you people are a circus.

>>18119673
all of you

>>18119383
Canadians are super deluded about just about everything. They live in a country that has less people than california and talk out of their ass all the time.

>hurr this Canadian kid is so weak
>continues to cry over how shitty and unbearable his life was in Nicaragua for half an hour
>doesnt account for white skin making him a prime target for crime

>>18119693
argentina has a large population of white people who also live far far below the poverty line.
and argentina is also a 3rd world country.

my life was ok, I'm alive. that's far better than most in nicaragua. so im happy. but it wasn't until i came to this country that i learned why my country is a 3rd world country.

because white america happened to it. that's why.

>>18119685
did not know canada had such low population.
interesting.

climate i'm guessing? it is freezing here at the moment.

You're right OP, you're so much more cool and superior to your privileged white friend, what does he know, he didn't even grow up in a shithole LOL.

>>18119585
hey chupo, we can buy our cheap wears from any other shit hole country you depend on us to survive so dont get high and mighty on me. maybe fix that culture that creates crime rates higher then the average IQ and you wouldnt have so many problems

>>18119712
Just because you sit on your ass all day doesn't mean you're not still a stupid little shit. If it wasn't for "white america" your entire family would be starving to death, be grateful you're not fucking dead nigger.

>>18119673
hitler came into power bc he was promises everyone free shit from the government.

and there were losts of germans who didnt like his ideas and they were shot in the back of the head

>>18119734
a shithole maybe. but not a soulless one.
I die knowing my hands are clean.

something americans can't ever die with.

>>18119750
Oh yeah tell us all about what your kike professor told you about America and how it selfishly ended all the glorious communist utopias in Latin America.

>>18119750
>ayyy geography means ur a killer

Tbh I always feel bad about american wars if aggression until I interact with foreigners. You're all trash. Except Japanese, Vietnamese, and Koreans. Good people.

>>18119742
we tried. white cia agents had our democratically elected president assassinated, and started a "revolution" when our country wound't sell our resources on the cheap.

just like they had the "evil" socialist muammar gaddafi murdered when he refused to give up his old at the americans.

we try to fix our countries. you call us communists. we immigrate to your countries, you call us criminals and thieves.
yet at the end of the day, we build your computers that you use to call us the criminals and parasites.
your nothing without the 3rd world. nothing.

you people are a joke.

>>18119749
then why wasn't he killed? so many soldiers near him, not one bullet could have been spared to shoot him? i don't buy it.

>>18119771
A little overkill 4/10

>>18119759
i never claimed latin american countries were utopias. I said we were held down by globalism and white expansionism because 1st world capitalist societies are co-dependent on 3rd world countries to operate.

you would be nothing without the rest of the world. yet you call us all trash and yet you buy the trash we make.

>>18119776
Hitler survived 34 or so assassination attempts, and most of the people who joined the SS had bought into his ideology.

>>18119771
If you hate America so much go back to your own country. Literally nobody wants you here, you're a fucking parasite and you'll never contribute to our society. Go back to monkeyland and lead your totallynotcommunist revolution. You people are all the same, talk shit about the white man all day but eventually you'll learn not to bite the hand that feeds you, in this case literally.

>>18119771
>you call us criminals and thieves.
only when you break the laws and steal shit.....

>we build your computers that you use to call us the criminals and parasites.
your nothing without the 3rd world. nothing.
maybe you didnt hear me the first time, we can have ANY poor country build our shit, there is nothing special about your unskilled labor

and gaddafi was to install a central bank, do you control your government 100% ? no? oh neither do americans what a surprise.
be grateful you got out of that hell hole rather then talk shit on the country that gave you opportunities
>>18119776
bc those around him wanted the power that came with it. im not saying they are innocent people im just sayin that obviously not everyone was down with that shit bc there were attempted assassinations from german people themselves and there is historical accounts of other unsuccessful attempts to stop him, but hitler did without a doubt rise to power by telling everybody that they would get free shit from the gov, thats why people elected him.

>>18119747
and if it wasn't for us, you'd be paying 20 dollars for one banana, instead of 5 dollars for 8.

your welcome i guess.

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>>18119790
>thats why people elected him.
it also had to do with him spreading the stabbed in the back myth, his whole "germany was down because of le evil jews, but I'm gonna put us back on track" line resonated with a lot of people. So they threw away their second chance just to get their country destroyed again.

>>18119783
How are we dependent on you? We can make all that stuff ourselves, and did for millennia, it's just easier to buy it off you because you'll make it for ten cents an hour. If it wasn't for us offering you food and financial aid, military support, and the jobs you complain about the Chinese would have exterminated your entire race already. You literally only exist because of the altruism of the white man, otherwise natural selection would have weeded you out. Sorry but that's the truth.

>>18119673
>blaming people for decisions that they had no part in making that happened before they were even fucking born
this is why your country sucks

>>18119796
you still dont get it you make the shit we want, if we stopped buying things from you, you would literally die
>>18119799
this. he was selling them utopia bs with the solution being "give me more control of everything" and people bought it

>>18119784
34 failed attempts. i thought german soldiers were superior. lol

>>18119808
>i thought german soldiers were superior
who told you that?

>>18119796
We have machines that can do what your people do for cheaper now.

>>18119805
because 40 years of civil war and goverment corruption and mass murder all gets chalked up and settled over i a couple weeks.

>>18119822
what does that have to do with what I said?

>>18119812
hitler himself did lol i guess his soldiers let him down.

>>18119822
Your country isn't shit because of civil war, it's shit because the people who live there have an average IQ of 81.

>>18119813
and THAT is karma coming back and kicking these racist uneducated white rednecks in the face. it's not mexicans and illegal trash like me that are taking your jobs. it's other greedy white men who feel even more superior than you and have started to replace you with machines.

white ceo's would rather use trash like me to assemble your phones, than have white trash like you do it. because we will work for less and without a union.

and at the end. companies fuck everyone over when a new machine comes out that makes the worker obs-elite

I LOVE IT! that's capitalism baby! ain't that right?

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>>18119827
>believing anything from a meth addicted autistic manlet

>>18119834
>taking pleasure in the pain of others
the true mark of a subhuman

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I don't know if this has been posted yet, but how do you think 1st world nations come about?

>>18119831
because if we educated the poor, and showed them WHY they are uneducated and poor, I could mean trouble for the stabilty of prices in the US.

knowing that most americans make what it would take you 50 years to make in a single week, would make them think twice about working for american companies.

and of course, america can't have that.

>>18119834
I'm not white trash, I will be one of the people making these machines. Also so-called white trash is still much more intelligent than your people so the machines will take your jobs before the white trash have to worry about adapting.

>>18119383
Meh. I did some work in Nicaragua back in the dizzle (didn't even speak spanish lol). I got along fine. It is a shit hole though.

>>18119842
sure. and what happens when the ceo desides that you simply ask too much for making these machines, and outsources your jobs to some chinese guy in a 3rd world country that doesn't ask for sick days and lunch breaks?

>>18119840
You're so fucking stupid it hurts. This is why we need a merit-based immigration system so retards like you aren't allowed into our country. IQ has nothing to do with education, it has to do with intelligence. Your people never evolved to have the cognitive abilities of whites and Asians.

>>18119847
Why would I ask to be paid more than the cost of my labor?

>>18119785
i can't wait to see you out on your ass when your job becomes automated and the country that builds the machines speaks mandarin.

then we'll see how loyal your fellow white ceo is to you.

better start learning chinese homie.

>>18119855
because you want the dignity of a living wage

>>18119858
Whatever, the day that there is no more work for high IQ white people is the day the AI has taken over, and by that point it won't matter if I have a job or not.

>>18119850
we evolved enough to know that a society build on expansion and cultivation like yours comes with a time limit. the incas knew. the mayans knew. we all knew.

how else would you explain why Columbus came to our land to begin with? if europe was so nice and well evolved why did you ever leave?

>>18119872
and the AI will be created by a white man, not a brown trash illegal like me.

that's the beauty of it all. it's gorgeous it almost makes me want to cry tears of joy.

your IQ is what is slowly destroying you. Your superiority is what is ultimately going to be the end of you. so in truth. you are the true cancer.

>>18119874
Because it is the white man's destiny to explore the world and discover new things. That is why we went to the moon. In all seriousness though, i really do hope you realize how Colombus ended up in the Americas. Like, this is something we learn in preschool in the US.

>>18119890
>and the AI will be created by a white man, not a brown trash illegal like me.
Well no shit. I don't see whats so wrong with being replaced by AI. The human race has to end at some point and I would rather it be by us being succeeded by something better than by third world squalor. I guess when you pathologise success it makes sense though.

>>18119855
you dont get it, to companies, anything above from the legal minimum is too much. it's why the US has the federal minimum wage law. its the only reason companies there in the US don't pay people 10 cents. it's idiots like you who can't see that giant companies don't care about you. all you are, is another body to them.

and mule, and servent for the owners empire.

AND THAT'S CAPITALISM YOU FUCKING MORON.

>>18119896
you rather be killed by a soulless machine that you created? to paris for a machine who has no feelings for you and me, simply out of a predestined faith that humanity must come to an end at some point?

and I'm the um-evolved trash?

we made a mistake coming out of those trees.
a bad one.

>>18119899
you know you could always not take the job right?

>>18119891
yeah, i'd love to know where he got the balls to sail out to the end of the world and not fear falling off the edge of the earth. lol superiority my ass.

>>18119874
>how else would you explain why Columbus came to our land to begin with?
because he was looking for a trade route to Chinese goods that bypassed the ottomans who marked up goods from the far east to a ridiculous degree

>>18119916
Its been known that the earth is round since the days of Pythagoras.

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OP, you are wasting your time arguing with Americans.
Remember that a lot of retards here fell for the Trump meme.
They will never acknowledge that they have supported fundamentalist Islam and mujahideens in the past, that Bush created ISIS, that they supported dictatorships and the overthrow of democratically-elected governments in Iran, South Korea and all over South America, that they killed Victor Jara.
Their obsession for freedom is just a masquerade.

>>18119911
and do what?

remember people that don't work are leeches and parasites to society that feed of hard working white people using the welfare system to get by.

I mean, it's what you've been saying to black people from the start right? what will you tell yourself when your in line for a welfare check?

will you ask yourself why your fellow white man has chosen a chinese engineer over you?

I wonder.

>>18119925
we're still the only country that enshrines freedom of speech though

>>18119925
I do acknowledge that, that's why we need a civil war in the USA.

>>18119937
>supported dictatorships in foreign countries that silenced the opposition
>all the current safe space/SJW mania comes from the US
>"we're still the only country that enshrines freedom of speech though"
Sure thing buddy

>>18119925
yeah, but they got cheeseburgers and freedom to carry guns.

I still don't see how a glock 19 or ar-15 is going to stop a predator drone carrying laser guided missiles or a fleet of specially trained government lead killing machines come for that right too.

they already took your 4th amendment right on September 11th 2001.

the FBI has the right to arrest anyone under any circumstances and imprison them for any length of time, all under the name of terrorism.

didn't see those well regulated militias in the south do jack shit about that.

and it's the rest of the world that is crazy and hates freedom.

>>18119975
What does any of that have to do with freedom of speech?

>>18119976
>the FBI has the right to arrest anyone under any circumstances and imprison them for any length of time, all under the name of terrorism.
no.

>>18119955
yup, so that way the CIA can do the same thing it does to other countries and install a puppet regime to take control of even more of it's citizens.

have a civil war, it will only lead to even more restrictions. I've herd they've been wanting to do away with the 1st amendent, you know, how the president know wants to take action against the press because of the mean comments it makes.

but you still support freedom of speech right?
does your president support it?

I think not.

>>18119986
yes. and they have. don't take some immigrant scums word for it. look it up for yourself.

Data mining by the NSA and phone taking by the CIA on its own citizens has been public knowledge for years now.

recently the CIA had it's cyber weapons leaked, and now they are turning peoples androids into bugs. It's own citizens.

how is that not a violation of the 4th amendment right?

>>18119984
So supporting dictatorships that forbid the expression of dissenting political views and wanting to silence any different opinions than yours is "enshrining freedom of speech" now ? I guess we have a different definition of freedom of speech then.

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>>18119976
Have you ever heard of something called logistics? Even if the military did become heartless machines, they can' attack their own bloodline.

>>18119990
The president is controlled opposition.

Don't get me wrong, authoritarianism isn't a bad thing IMO. The first amendment isn't the best thing either when lies are allowed to be made.

If enough 1st world people moved to another place, they would make that place a 1st world country.

You're very right about the powers that be causing destabilization, but you continually keep blaming the US, when in reality, the UN and the Catholic church logistically support war like muslims and warlords rather than having war on Islam to make a homogeneous culture in a region rather than feeding both sides.

>>18119996
>look up evidence for my claim for me

>>18119995
>>18120002
samefaglol

none of that has anything to do with freedom of speech in america

You're right about hating the US for destabilizing the Islamic controlled areas of the world OP. You're foolish for thinking the US is the only place that destabilizes things. The EU and the Russians are part of it as well.

I suppose you forgot about the Nubians, the Carthaginians, the Egyptians, the Greeks, and a host of other ancient nations that made war with each other, huh?

Nations make war with each other.

>>18120003
>Even if the military did become heartless machines, they can' attack their own bloodline.


sending it's own bloodline in to a country to be blown up by a bunch of "terrorist" all under the assumption that they were in iraq to save the world from WMDs all while white ceos like Tony Hayward lined his pockets with cheap iraqi oil and at the end ended up destabilizing an entire continent all in the name of capitalism.

the white men LOVE their forward deployed white soldiers! DIE FOR YOUR FREEDOM BOYS!

did tony's kids take bullets to protect the world from hussains War Heads?

if i'm correct, it's 2017, where are the WMDs?
we better get them out of there those isis guys dont seem too nice.

or hey! maybe we can outsource gun manufacturing to the middle east? that way they can make what we sell them! wont that be great!

FOR FREEDOM!!!!

>>18120010
>dude look at us freedom of speech so great lmao
>but you are not allowed to exercise it in this place, because it's a safe space
>and you are not allowed to exercise it in your country too, because we didn't want your democratically-elected government to nationalize your fruit farms
Hypocrisy at its finest.

>>18120038
that has nothing to do with freedom of speech, I don't think you understand what freedom of speech is

>>18120021
white western societies make war, when did Mayans invade europe again? I can't seem to recall.

but hey like some idiot on this thread said earlier. It's the white man's destiny to explore.

too bad it will be also be your undoing when you come to the sad realization that there really is nothing up there. just empty planets and a galaxy that doesn't give a fuck about our petty bullshit concept of destiny.

>>18120042
>Freedom of speech is the right to articulate one's opinions and ideas without fear of government retaliation or censorship, or societal sanction[1][2][3][4]
>"that has nothing to do with freedom of speech"
How dense are you ?
At least, tell me why you think I'm wrong instead of posting non-arguments like "lol ur wrong xDDDD".

>>18120052
freedom of speech is the ability to say what you want without government persecution

>>18120044
The romans werent white, the mongolians werent white, the mali empire was black, the ottoman empire was arabic, mohammed and his expansion was an imperialistic endeavour of middle easterners, the Carthagians were pretty brutal, the chinese, america did not face crimes against humanity over nuclear bombs because japan would also have to answer for their ear crimes in china and the pacific islands so theyd rather not pursue it...

Youre very thick for thinking like that.

Its a human trait. The strongest entities will be total assholes to the weakest. History over and over again.

Remember the holocaust? That shit was pretty fucking terrible when a nationalist movement put them into death camps and murdered them like dogs. So we gave the jews Israel as reparation. Hows that going?

People are just people. Most civilians are cool as fuck and just want to work and take care of their families and have fun.

Then sociopaths rise to power and tell them their freedom is at risk and they have to pick up a gun and go shoot those other people over there. Then they cash in on land and oil.


Thats how it works... Since forever.

Get this white shaming bullshit out of your stupid head.

>>18120044
keep preaching your Mayans, it's nice to forget about the monstrous Aztecs and even the war like Native Americans in the country now called the USA.

>>18120060
That literally what the Wikipedia quote I just posted implied.
It seems like you cannot grasp the idea that restricting freedom of speech in other countries than yours is hypocritical and doesn't enshrine it in a global way. Good night.

>>18120062
all invaders to me.

the incas where the only ones who came close to a perfect civilization. zero wars. zero invasions. they truly learned to be at peace with earth and it's inhabitants are learned to share the world.

all this bullshit came from Europe.
white Europe.

chinese, muslim, white, black all the same to me.

>>18120080
I was talking about america, not the rest of the world

good night

>>18120074
>Mayans, it's nice to forget about the monstrous Aztecs


mayans and aztecs are different. i'm not mestizo. aztecs where expansionist who where obsessed with death, so obsessed that they where killing each other off faster than cortez could do it himself.

mayas and incas are different. not that you would know. or care too.

>>18120096
They're in the same region, they shared a lot of the same genetics, just different cultures.

Not that you would know, or care too.

>>18120082

All the same to you, huh. Do you know any history? At all?

White europe was all barbarians and savages and stick huts until the romans invaded raped them enslaved them and assimilated and sophisticated them in the early centuries of the common era.

The romans had more roots in middle eastern and greek culture. And the Persians heavily influenced them. And the chinese were a great powerful invading empire long before them. And the egyptians long before them.

White people on the scale of time are new as fuck to sophisticated civilisation and empires.

And then theyll fall out of power and get treated like bags of shit and go "wahhh muh humanity, were people too why are you doing this"

Just like the natives did after they ran around scalping and enslaving each other and commiting genocides on tribes. A stronger enemy came then they started crying about it.

Its an endless cycle.

And it doesnt end with you picking a race and deciding theyre responsible for everything. It starts with you learning some history, dropping this dumb ass fight, and forgetting race altogether. Were all exactly the same. Especially when it comes to how much we can suck. Move on.

>>18120082
White europe as a sophisticated culture is extremely new in the timeline of humanity. They started gaining power in the early centuries of the common era.

Before that they were all savages living in stick huts before the romans (who were not white) came by raped them all enslaved them took their land and assimilated them.

And the romans were influenced by the greeks who were influenced by the persians and so on.

The egyptian empire was 10,000 years before white people even figured out proper shelter. And many non european empires expanded and practiced absolute dickery between the egyptians and the roman incursian into western Europe.

I don't know what groups you listen to but a small history education would go a long way for you. It doesnt even make you dumb or ignorant you dont know history. Maybe you dont care. And that's fine.

But when you throw out opinions like "nyar all invasions started in europe" you should at least hit up wikipedia first...

>>18120099
so by that logic, that makes the British and Germans not so different? the why did the UK fight against the third reich? they are in the same region and they shred a lot of the same genetics. just different cultures.

aztecs and mayans are completely different
and incas are different as well. just because we share similar genetics does not mean we share the same ideas or philosophies.

>>18119383
First worlders are too soft and niave to survive in a third world country

Anyone who says they can are blowing smoke up their asses. Every first worlder thinks they're hot shit because they dug a whole in Mexico for a week.

I'm a first worlder, but I frequently visited El Salvador to visit family. It's hell below the border.

sure, he can "adapt," anyone can. But will he survive? Probably not. He has no idea about the local customs, dangers, etc.

A bad neighborhood in the US is NOT the same as a bad neighborhood in a latin country.

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>>18120114
Lol, you're answered the question for me.

White people nor brown people are the problem: it's cultures.

Moreover than cultures, the people on top of nations, be them demagogues or back-room-deal politicians, influence weak minded people to think a certain way instead of thinking for themselves.

You've fallen victim into their way of thinking. You blame "western" cultures, but you're making it code for white man. The ottomans were leaders in technology and physical substance for a long time, and they practiced some of the worst slaver on earth.

There are evil cultures in all continents, the USA is by no means a virtuous nation, but neither is your land's culture. I suppose you can blame on the USA or "western culture," but the same would be happening to us if your lands held the power rather than us just like when the slavers of Egypt existed.

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>>18120103
ropping this dumb ass fight, and forgetting race altogether.

not before they do. I have 600 years of history to tell me not to trust you.

besides, I face MY god when I die, and I want to face him knowing I did everything I could with the time I was given to fight you people.

I die knowing my god knows i held nothing but contempt for you, you the plague of the world.

but I guess for now, the only thing I can do is go back to my country of origin and help the local mob kidnap white tourist for money.

asta la victoria siempre!

>>18120111
i did; and this is what I found.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

>>18120129
>but the same would be happening to us if your lands held the power rather than us just like when the slavers of Egypt existed.


no we wouldn't because our culture is not based on expanding and destroying others, it's based on self preservation and coexistence with earth.

we would have never left europe.

>>18120120
ablas espanos primo?

>>18120175
Ok, keep telling yourself that.

In reality your tribalistic culture was so steeped in war that it never had a chance to peacefully expand.

Once again, the western culture isn't perfect, and neither is yours. Nations are a normal thing.

>>18120200
the aztecs where the aggressors, not the mayas or incas. and by the end they only proved to mayas and incas that expansion and over population only lead to wars and eventual downfall

the incas knew that to servive we had to coexist with the like animals.

>>18120223
*earth

>>18120223
Never mind, I understand where you're coming from. You believe that the worship of nature and life itself is what we are here for.

I believe that we are here to be fruitful and the preservation of life isn't something to be worshiped.

I'm not saying that I respect your point of view, but I can conceptualize it. You just need to understand that life isn't the end all.

>>18120231
there is nothing up there you stupid fucking moron, when will you people give up this quest for eternity and accept we are alone. and you people are destroying an enigma, a rare diamond in the universe.

do you have any idea how rare this rock we live on is?? how fucking lucky we are to even exist?

yet that isn't enough for you people, you want more and more and more. your rats you spread and infest everything. but at the end your dream of reaching another planet wont come true, mars will fail and earth will still be a real shithole BECAUSE OF YOU not us.

>>18120253
I get it, you worship man and mammon. You're exactly like the elites of the western nations that destabilize 3rd world countries in order to keep populations down so that less resources are used. Just to clarify, that's (((their))) thinking, not mine. You are like the because you believe that man must "cohabit with nature" or some shit which implies you want to limit human life and capabilities so you can be in a shitmud hut fucking your sister.

They believe that if they can conquer all nations and make a one world government that they can go and expand into space. To do that they obviously must cause the death of billions of people.

I believe that there is an afterlife and that life here doesn't matter. Life in space isn't even possible. You and wanting to cohabit with nature is a joke since God gave us the world to use. You worship life and nature when you shouldn't, you should just worship the truth of God.

You're very right in thinking that there is a conspiracy against you and your people, but it isn't from the whole collective of western civilization, it's their leaders who subvert their culture.

>>18120285
de la tiera soy y a la tiera regresare

I am nothing like white western elitist. this ideology that pushes this bullshit idea of galactic expansion is garbage. and so is god, this GOD you pray to is a social construct supported by world governments to stop the poor from rising up against them.

"why care about our earth, why look after it; when all you have to do is be good and follow our rules and pray to this god and when you die, no matter how shitty your life was, you'll go to eternal paradise."

what a bullshit idea. again, something that came from the white race. this garbage that we should accept some guy that walks on water because no matter how shitty your life is, there are people who have it worse.

but you know who doesn't have it worse than you? the bullshit kings and queens you all bowed to and killed each other for.

they didn't need to believe in a heaven. they were living in it others perished in agony for then in war.

jesus and this whole man in the sky religion is all bullshit. and it's all come from you people.

>>18120320
what do muslims have without islam?
totalitarian dictators who don't give a shit about them and would rather see them rot in the desert than give them a glass of fucking water.

what do whites have without god?
capitalist driven isolation; and a insatiable need to seek meaning for life by owning things, material things, all at the expense of others.

incas and mayas have earth,
from earth we come, and to earth we shall return to, when we become part of earth again, our bodies becoming one with mother earth. no need for material things. shit, we gave gold away to whites, we didn't equate value to it. because we know, it's just a fucking metal, it only has as much value as we chose for it to have.

yet you all kill each other over this, over paper and now digital numbers on a computer.

and yet again, you call us the uncivilized savages.

The US Declaration of Independence begs to differ. God caused the fall of Rome and the fall of Great Britain.

You hate authority for some reason, and once again, you worship life. Kings should be killed when they are unjust and should be upheld when they are just.

You would be a tool of the Elitist because you don't want to build up an army and destroy them. You just want peace and maintain the earth (which they see as their personal resource.)

The way you want to live isn't very taxing on the earth at all, which is exactly what they want.

I wish that humans consumed as much as they could and put it specifically put it into reproducing instead of government programs.

Let me get this straight though, it sounds like you hate the elite and we're accusing one another of being their stupid servants.

How do you propose that we remove them? Should we just hug some trees and live in animal pelts? No, we should have civil war and start over again.

>>18120320
You need to take up arms. You need to stop building fucking mud huts are start drawing metal up out of the earth to make war.

My plan to save the world is to start a civil war in the USA which will cause the end of the EU.

Your plan to save the world is to be one with nature and go to school in the USA (lol).

>>18120347
>No, we should have civil war and start over again.

so then the whole thing restarts again? and it becomes an endless circle of death and destruction? and then what? nuclear Armageddon? how will we come back from that exactly?

my theory is that somewhere along evolution we grew too smart for our own good, and we spawned into something that will ultimately destroy itself.

but again, it wasn't the mayas and incas, shit it wasn't even the aztecs and they where obsessed with death and the destruction of earth that came up with the hydrogen bomb. it was white Europeans.

this race, is the race that will ultimately destroy our home. thanks to you people. all for greed and a flawed society that cannot self sustain.

you are the cancer.

>>18120361
you don't understand how modern warfare works dumbfuck, if whites use nuclear weapons you wont get to start a civil war, there wont be anyone to fight in it.

>>18120366
How are some bombs going to end the world? Mutual destruction ensures that that isn't going to happen.

Evolution is a joke brought forth by white Europeans.

Yes, we start over with a nation that is just for maybe a century, go through a time of decadence, go through another civil war.

You act like there are no cycles in nature. You act like man isn't part of nature. You are inconsistent with you way of thinking. You take up ideals of white men from Europe (evolution) and turn around and say that social darwnism (which exactly what you're bitching about) is bad.

You can't have social Darwinism without evolution.

>>18120376
Mutual destruction.

>>18120379
just because some white guy wrote a book on evolution doesn't mean he was the first one to think of evolution to explain who and how we came to be.

mayas dressed in primehuehls or animal skins to pay homage to our ancestors. animals. we've always known we are just like them. its white western bullshit religion that came up with the idea that humans where magically spawned by god and two white people a man and a woman came first and incest had to take place. it's all bullshit.

aztecs and the navajo also knew we are nothing but furless over developed animals.

the only problem is that we are not the only ones, the destruction of earth, of irreplaceable eco systems.

the rape of earth by the hands of expansionist.
our home is dying, and we are killing it.

if I wanted to do something about it is maybe try and spread the Spanish flu again world wide.

china first, then Europe, the middle east and Russia then Australia and finally america and south america last.

that would be how I would save the world. by sacrificing myself and killing this cancer off MY god, earth off once and for all, and let the rest of life keep on living and coexisting.

>>18120405
Lead by example then. I will at least believe that you say these things from the bottom of your heart instead of being a hypocrite.

Kill yourself.

>>18120407
you first.


its your people that started the end for all of us.
it's only fair you should go first

>>18120414
No, you first, hypocrite who is unwittingly part of the elites.

>>18120421
im not part of the elites, im not white. i simply want the earth to survive, but it can't with the societies whites have created. that's why your cancer to earth.

my culture ever made bombs and dumped chemical waste in the seas.

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>>18120421
the elites what a few humans to survive and to restart and keep humans in balance with earth but it can't. it's impossible, whites are a parasitic destructive race who expands and destroys.

the incas came close, but not close enough.

we must all go. for life to continue we must parish. ALL of us.

>>18120431
Look man, you're racist, I get it.

Evolution, which did come from white Europe, not from brown people, is what you worship.

You just don't like the negative affects of it on your people, and because you are so indecisive in thoughts, you will not change anything.

White people are cancer. They murder their own babies with abortion and help destabilize countries to profiteer.

Your people are cancer too. They aren't efficient at all and wonder why they get conquered when they spend their time worshiping white man's false god of evolution and humping trees.

My answer is individualism and the worship of God.

Both white man's culture and your culture are collectivist in nature. Your culture has just been stunted while white man's culture has grown. Your form of collectivism is just like that of the Germanic tribes in Europe in the days of yore when they were pagans.

Your people's collectivism would have advanced and become like the Nazis.

Individualism and technological prowess is how to empower man; moreover is worshiping God and not lusting after anymore power than to defend one's self.

>>18120450
So you worship death and claim through death life will be found. You're silly.

You're literally playing into the hands of the elite just like in the Georgia Guide stones. I wish you were smart enough to realize that. The elite WILL NOT KILL THEMSELVES AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO KILL THEM WITHOUT WEAPONS. But yeah, go ahead and hump your tree and complain about your life.

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>>18119383
He would just migrate to Costa Rica and setup a tin shack.

>>18120459
>Your people's collectivism would have advanced and become like the Nazis.

you clearly know nothing about maya and inca culture. they where not expansionists nor where they imperialists, they believed that life could be lived by humans just like animals live life. then came the white man and it infected our people with this bullshit idea of "god" does god give you life or does earth?

right earth does. earth is the reason your alive, not god. and by destroying earth, we are destroying god. we by nature are flawed, and the only culture that could have saved this planet is now been destroyed.

the Georgia guide stones get it wrong. NO man can exist or survive no human can stay on earth. we have proven that we are nothing but a large overly developed version of rats.

whites killed the only culture that knew how to survive here on earth and now we fight for pieces of paper and fossil fuel that will eventually run out.

we are doomed. but it's not too late for other mammals, other living animals.

bears, tigers zebras. amazing complex life who truly has been kept in check by nature its self.

we need to go. ALL OF US for the earth to keep life.

>>18120503
Ok, like I said, lead by example and kill yourself.

You can't ensure my death with just words anyways. You would have to draw up metal from the earth and come and kill me.

>>18120516
if i go first? who will fulfill the mission? who will save earth from us?

no, what I need is a live H1N1 culture and a way to be able to spread it across the world. that is what will save the earth.

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>>18119827
jesus christ youre so fucking retarded it hurts

>>18119383
>I don't think someone like him could last more that a week there before being either killed,kidnapped then killed or stave to death from slave wages and not being accustomed to not eating some days.
this entire situation you present is retarded because youre deliberately skewing facts (see above for how absolutely fucking ignorant you are). first of all first worlders go to the third world to live like first worlders for CHEAP. what you're actually 'trying' (and failing) to ask, is could a first worlder, live in a third world country the way the average third worlder does give the the literal bullshit you propose they would deal with. for one, youre at just below 50% poverty, not fucking 80%. youre grossly over estimating how bad your 'kidnapped and beheaded probabiity'. if the average person has to worry about "lasting a week before being either killed..." your country would be such a fucking shithole that no one would go there in the first place. but you outright lied about that and tried to rely on good old american ignorance to borrow a problem from one of your shithole neighbors in the hopes that why'd buy it

http://www.economist.com/node/21543492

as for the hunger, sure this would be difficult for a first worlder to deal with. but again, you skew the facts. while there's a legitimate nutrition problem in your country, it still affects far below the majority of the population. a first world could move there and rest assured (literally) that they wont go hunger

tldr yes after some time to adapt, a first worlder could survive your shithole country if they had to

>>18120537
lol your saying that people all the 3rd world that exist only 50%? of people are below the poverty line? then they are no longer 3rd world. they are developing countries like russia and china. read my post. nicaragua is a 3rd world country, not a developing country and yes, about 80% of the population is way below the poverty line.

>>18120558
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua#Economy
>According to the United Nations Development Programme, 48% of the population of Nicaragua live below the poverty line,[103] 79.9% of the population live with less than $2 per day,[104] According to UN figures, 80% of the indigenous people (who make up 5% of the population) live on less than $1 per day.[105]

people smarter than you say otherwise

>>18120565
i don't buy it I've lived there, and trust me it's way way over 48% the government here doesn't account for the rural farmers in the country side. there are a lot people who work the land or people who simply live there and are immigrants and are not nicaraguan citizens and they live in the street.

>>18120576
except those stats are from the united nations development programme, which probably a fuckton more reputable that your shithole countries government.

also,
>and are immigrants and are not nicaraguan citizens and they live in the street.
more lies. just stop

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua#Immigration

>Relative to its overall population, Nicaragua has never experienced any large-scale immigrant waves. The number of immigrants to Nicaragua, both originating from other Latin American countries and all other countries, never surpassed 1% of its total population before 1995. The 2005 census showed the foreign-born population at 1.2%, having risen a mere .06% in 10 years.[136]

In the 19th century, Nicaragua experienced modest waves of immigration from Europe. In particular, families from Germany, Italy, Spain, France and Belgium immigrated to Nicaragua, particularly the departments in the Central and Pacific region.

Also present is a small Middle Eastern-Nicaraguan community of Syrians, Armenians, Jewish Nicaraguans, and Lebanese people in Nicaragua with a population of about 30,000. There is an East Asian community mostly consisting of Chinese, Taiwanese, and Japanese. The Chinese Nicaraguan population is estimated at around 12,000.[148] The Chinese arrived in the late 19th century but were unsubstantiated until the 1920s.

just stop. we get it. you left your shithole grass hut in your country and now youre surrounded by all these skyscrapers and cars and shit and you feel inferior because your people never made anything like that so youre grasping at straws trying to claim some type of rugged robustness advantage over first worlds since you dont feel like you can compete at anything they are already established in. just get you degree or whatever and either go back and fix your shithole country or stay wherever and stfu and try not to annoy/burden anyone with your lies and iferiority complex

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I live on the southside of chicago where I am by far more likely to be mugged or killed then I would be in Nicaragua. So living as a 1st world white dude in the slum of Nicaragua? I would thrive there, being educated I can easily manipulate the people of the country and exploit them and their resources. It would be very similar to the history of Britain and south Africa. Now If I could bring my giant lifted truck, my nice modest gun collection, and my wealth "Merica". I would rule as a warlord employing children to fight for me and produce cocaine, and would have a modest harem of sex slaves. They would call me General Buttnaked as I would charge into battle butt naked consuming the hearts of my slain foe for energy. You might be asking yourself now "How would this fella get funding for this?" simple Nicaragua is a huge trafficking site for cocaine and the CIA would fund my regime in order to take control and tax the flow of drugs through the nation, and eventually over throw the government creating a satellite state that trump can use to retaliate against mexico and launch missles at cuba. 1st world rules! Pools closed, Oh wait, they can't afford pools in Nicaragua.

>>18119646
How pathetic do you have to be to use your home country being a fucking hellish nightmare as some sort of dig against first worlders?

Yea, we made our countries actually nice to live in. Sorry yours didn't.

>>18119383
Yes, but it isn't for everyone. I'm a Scandinavian who lived in Nigeria for a few years because of my job.

>>18119742
you know the average iq is 100 right?

>>18120608
no, you use 3rd world countries and the people that live in them as a way to live.

your first world capitalist country rests on the backs of 3rd world children who spend 16 hours a day building your iphones that you use to call them illegal trash on.

your nothing without the 3rd world. nothing.

>>18120591
we can never fix our country because when we try to, we are called communists and the US starts another war there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

first worlds need us to build those towers. when was the last time you've seen a non-hispanic working hard labor construction? its hispanics and asians who built your country.

I've had a pretty bad life man, as a korean in Romania no less, and then I moved to germany and holy fuck, the difference in so enormous, these first world westerners would not even believe.

You're in the right, but nobody from the west will even acknowledge it because they can't relate and will never be able to relate, just like you can't explain the sound of a river to a deaf person who has been deaf from birth. You don't even have to explain in such a way, OP, because people who understand the struggles of this world understood it from the first word, while others can read and watch all the movies and documentaries and they won't understand, just like those tattooed gym bunnies blonde dutch going in africa to save kids. They pretend they know it, but they don't.

>>18119383
I think that there is no way to know unless this actually happens to your friend OP

Being thrown from a cozy 1st world womb into a shithole is the sort of thing that either makes or breaks that person

You cannot know if your friend would have the strength to adapt to such a change unless he is put through it, it is a very inner strength.

>>18119585
>they depend on 3rd world countries

lmao

I agree that we're cry babies who likely could never make it where you live - you're stronger than me, you've been through more shit than me. But if for whatever reason all contact between the modernized world and your world was cut off, we'd be fine. I was going to say you'd be hit harder,but that depends on if you find your current life easier than a total lack of society

>>18119673
Hitler came into power because he saved his entire fucking country from mass poverty and starvation

Trust me, if you had been German, you would have died for Hitler as well.

Germans today have nothing to do with Hitler whatsoever, they dont remember him and they did not cause him.

Its been a long time since the cold war - a whole new generation of voters is coming who dont remember it and also had nothing to do with it. You seem like an idiot that would blame an infant for the actions of his grandfather.

>>18119766
Im an isolationist but every single time an angry foreigner speaks on this board I feel like world-wide genocide is a good thing and we should have finished what we fucking started.

America has become too big and relies too much on throwing our weight around to be isolationist anymore - so if we're going to make ourselves so mighty, we might as well actually use that might. We have a fucking empire and we just let it sit there...why?

>>18119834
Automation is unavoidable. You moving here is entirely avoidable.

Its true that white ceos would hire you over me, but since Im not a fan of putting a bunch of restrictions on who business owners can hire

Id rather just stop you coming here

And youve literally just explain how it IS you thats the problem

>Theyll hire me over you if Im available

So we'll make you unavailable

>>18121974
>Hitler came into power because he saved his entire fucking country from mass poverty and starvation
He did no such thing.

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if the guy is white and not ugly he would get assaulted by local girls, he would be able to marry some girl from a upper middle class family and he would be able to live a pretty comfy life thanks to the office job his father in law provided him thanks to his connections

>>18119931
Its called mass strikes you dumb fuck, theyve worked in the past

The only reason they dont work is when the company hires temp workers to replace the old ones - scabs.

Strikers dont take welfare

People also will take care of one another - if we actually coordinated we could completely kill the ceos and big companies by simply ignoring they exist and resuming society without them. Have our own way of keeping money, have our own barter system. Its actually been done before, and worked until things were fixed enough people went back to the old system.