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How do I learn philosophical debate and rethoric Suggest me

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How do I learn philosophical debate and rethoric

Suggest me some good books about it
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Start with the greeks
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Schopenhauer - The art of being right
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Well as usual I didn't express myself well enough. I don't really mean rethoric, more like exposition and argumentation.
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