How do i get over being jealous of attractive women?

And women are probably jealous you can lift heavy boxes and reach the top of the refrigerator. Sorry gaylord.

As for dating, the demand curve pretty much reverses post 30. You'll probably fuck up and have no career/worth by then, but most normal men are more competitive sexually the older they are (and the richer).

>>18114548

>Attractive women can have multiple orgasms

Being attractive is not at all related to the ability to have multiple orgasms. A lot of women can't have multiple orgasms. A lot of women can't have orgasms at all.

>get a slew of men chasing after them

Not everyone thinks constantly having a bunch of guys wanting to fuck you, dump a load in you and never talk to you again is a benefit. In fact, its kind of a lonely feeling after awhile.

Maybe having a stream of people who don't care about who you are as a person and just want to fuck you sounds fun to you but it doesn't to everyone, I can promise you that.

You're kind of projecting your own desires onto women and you're not taking into account that things that are important to men aren't as important to women. The dynamics you're trying to compare are completely different.

>can have hetero-group sex and actually get something out of it (two dudes on one girl getting all the attention while two girls on one guy is meh we only have one penis)

This was just kind of confusing. I don't see what the number of penises a man on his body has to do with enjoying group sex. Women have only one vagina? I'm not sure what you're getting at.

>Gender power dynamics are shifting and women have this, plus the ability to become CEOs, doctors lawyers and have positions of power.


The fact of the matter is that both men and women have pros and cons and we all have to accept that. We aren't equal. We aren't the same. You have some benefits in dating that women do not and vice versa. Stop wasting your time being jealous and start working on being a thoughtful, mature, intelligent individual. Thats your best shot.

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>>18114587
woman who can't orgasm here.
Though I'm pretty ugly.

But yeah, the sexual frustration is real and I've honestly wished I were dead since puberty because I have this sex drive I can do absolutely fucking nothing with or about.

>>18114587
>>get a slew of men chasing after them

Not everyone thinks constantly having a bunch of guys wanting to fuck you, dump a load in you and never talk to you again is a benefit. In fact, its kind of a lonely feeling after awhile.

Maybe having a stream of people who don't care about who you are as a person and just want to fuck you sounds fun to you but it doesn't to everyone, I can promise you that.

I have had multiple girls I dated/fwb'd tell me the exact opposite. I've met more women who were the type to actually pump and dump men instead of vice versa.

>>18114600
Thats probably because, since you're straight, you're not actually talking to a bunch of men who want to fuck and dump you.

>>18114600
Not all girls put out as much as the girls in your peer group.

>>18114587
I wish I'd written this post. *fist bump* You are needed here.

The grass is always greener on the other side.
I hate that I'm so weak physically. I wish I could walk around at night and if I get robbed beat up the guy that tries. I wish that when I'm out for a party and it gets late I have to ask male friends to accompany me home. They do it and say it's okay, but I know that they would rather stay at the party and just feel sorry / obligated to.
And holy fuck is it shitty to be afraid and knowing because you're alone you have absolutely no chance. Being dependent is so shitty.

I hate that my worth is mostly defined by how I look. I know I look decent, and if I put effort even attractive. But I'm painfully aware that I maybe wouldn't be in the place that I am if it weren't for a few people and creepy old guys like my landlord that helped me out or gave me chances all just because I look good and they hope to get their dicks wet, not because I'm talented or a good person etc.

And I hate that I got accepted in IT classes only to fulfill a quota and not because I can actually code well.

Also everything >>18114587 said. Thanks for that.

>>18114587
Man, I'd trade the ability to have 2-3 shitty lack luster "Better than nothing I guess" orgasms for just one big explosion like guys get.

Grass is always greener OP.

>>18114600

>I have had multiple girls I dated/fwb'd tell me the exact opposite. I've met more women who were the type to actually pump and dump men instead of vice versa.

And I've had multiple girls tell me the exact opposite of what your girls told you. You know why? Because anecdotal experience is nowhere near indicative of a greater pattern. People are different.

Just because your house is on the beach doesn't mean the whole world is covered in sand, feel me?

>>18114548
I'm an attractive girl. I have severe depression and have never had an orgasm in my life.

>>18114628
>>18114596
You girls need to get a Hitachi Wand.

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>>18114639
I've tried it all man. No toy works, no lube works, no person works.
Mine probably stems from the serious sexual repression I experienced growing up though. Perks of being molested as a kid. Fucks your perceptions of sex for basically the rest of your life.
I probably will never enjoy sex because my brain still subconsciously tells me, deep down somewhere, it's wrong to.
Yet the ole brain can't seem to fucking turn off the sex drive for me too unfortunately. Just fucking FLOOD me with desire, and then shut down whenever I try and do something about it.

>>18114639
I WISH THERE WAS A HITACHI WAND FOR GUYS

BUT THERE ISNT

Ooh whoppeee would you rather be able to lift boxes or be desired by the opposite gender

>>18114657
I'm really sorry to hear that? Have you tried to work this out with a therapist? Maybe with one that's specialized in this kind of trauma?

Do you experience the build up at least? Like when you slowly touch your clit, the feelings that come prior to orgasm? Or is it like if you would just get touched on your arm or anywhere else?

I don't agree to most of what you said, but those multiple O's, ooohh man what I'd give for them...

I think I'm a lesbian dude because I really love two girls getting it on non-stop, no clean-up after orgasm, little to no refractory period... I have to content with giving them to my gf and getting off from it by proxy, but I'd trade places with her in a snap

>>18114677
Yeah, a long time ago. I never took well to therapy. I could never get around how fake it was. Like I'm not stupid, I know I'm paying them thousands of dollars to tell me what I want to hear.
Quit after a couple years because I made no progress and it was just a waste of time and money. Anons here on 4chins helped me more than any of the 7 therapists I saw, because I at least trust you assholes to be real with me. And I'm not paying you to do it.

Masturbation for me is like a cycle. It feels like Like, lightly stoke your earlobe. That's about the sensation I get for the first couple minutes, then it's an immediate rush of feeling all at once, but def not orgasm level, and then it's killed immediately. Cycle back to earlobe sensation.
Other thing is when that spike in feeling does happen, it's typically only pleasurable for half a second before it just plain becomes painful. Like the sensitivity is on maximum overdrive.
It's probably why the sensation dies immediately. The pain overrides the pleasure. Probably my brains "self defense" mechanism to ensuring I never feel good about sex and always feel like it's wrong and should be avoided.

>>18114679
> no clean-up after orgasm
Oh there's clean up. You just have to fucking wait an hour for it to slowly leak out of you, which always ensures you have to do your laundry.
I'd rather shoot it all out at once straight into a condom or tissue. That's easy clean up.

>>18114603
Why would it have to be at him; his friends can't do the same shit and be viable examples? It only counts if you're the victim?

If you want to be jealous of women just install grindr.

you will realize how easy it is to get men to have sex with you. basically that's what women have: easy access to dick.

if you're a homo you know it's true.

so basically if you're jealous of sexy women because they have tons of dicks lining up for them, maybe you're gay? lol

>>18114624
That's a stupid analogy. You can safely assume the planet is covered in water if your house is surrounded by water. Sand is just dirt which is what our planet is named after.

>>18114600
I actually am with this anon somewhat, I see a LOT of women go and use guys for sex and I've been approached more than once to be a FWB myself. Both times they were just horny and wanted to mess around.

I have no doubt that women can be just as into casual sex shit as guys are, especially when they're young.

>>18114723
ok its probably because his friends are straight and not going after dudes that will pump and dump them.

If anything the pump n dump phenomena is not gender specfic. Its age specific. Young folk of all genitalia don't wanna be tied down and just want some quick, easy, dirty sex to fulfill their sex drive. Then they get older and decided settling down sounds good and pick someone to fuck exclusively for about a decade, and then get sick of and divorce. And the cycle begins anew.

>>18114713
For all the bliss and crazyness I see, it's well worth it. But do you mean after orgasm or after fucking?

>>18114740
"Pump and dump" works both ways and is why women expect guys to have money. This is why guys are jealous. If guys got paid for giving sex, considering girls are the ones who get to cum all they want, it would make more sense since guys get used for their money. Money earns sex for men but sex does not earn money. For women, money is not necessary to get sex -and- they can easily earn money from performing it. Money is exhaustible, sex is not. Women can therefore technically work all of the worth out of men with sex and have all the sex and money; who wouldn't get jealous?

>>18114750
Orgasm. When I cum at least, and I mean solo, no semen involved, it sticks around deep in the vag and then about an hour later I realize I'm sitting around in wet cummy panties.

>>18114752
kek wow.
You're really ignoring all the ladies ITT saying they can't orgasm aren't ya.
Also, your assumptions are laughable. Only dudes I've ever fucked were broke asses who were almost homeless, and they never spent a dime on me. Not even so much as bought me a drink.

>>18114659
Dude you honestly appear to have no idea. There are a lot of things you can try out if you really want.

Hitachis can feel so amazing on your dick nipples and balls. You will be surprised how nice it feels when you activate your nips. Maybe not multiples but good. Jack off and wear underwear so the Hitachi will be in your balls and anus it'll be nuts.

Fleshlights feel good, stick one in a pillow you can have nice missionary. Next level shit is buy a VR system, get yourself into a comfy position and pump away hard, sometimes you can get so horny from those videos that if you lube well you can get 2 orgasms in about 15 min. Don't let yourself believe you are in the real world, just let that VR vid continue and you will "do it for Lexi Belle" lol

Super next level is create a machine that pumps your dick, use Kink.com for inspiration, put a female POV on your VR and pretend a guy is fucking you, put a dildo up your butt too for extra roleplay and pleasure. Make absolutely fucking sure you are alone for hours for this because you need to get into this shit. Just act like a woman and moan and scream and breathe heavy you will be surprised how intense it will get because you will be mentally breaking down what masculine defenses you have for cumming hard. Eventually you will come and try pinching your nipples at that point you'll love it.

Next level shit is to stick a prostate massager inside your butt and sometimes it gets you multiples. That takes practice, study and doesn't always work.

Anyway guys just underrated what they are capable of because they just think lube+dick+porn = cum then clean up. Get creative and fun with it and use toys and you'll be surprised how much you can cum.

It can also help you with ladies because you'll train yourself to get free with inhibitions. Put a VR helmet on her and fuck her or masturbate her and she will be like aroused and blindfolded at once. Its hot as fuck.

>>18114548
Being female sucks.

Signed - A female

>>18114726
>being this autistic

Assuming we're talking about straight folks:
Women have easy access to dick save for a toothless homeless grandma even fatties can get dick easily

Men do not have easy access to pussy save for Chads and Celebrities

That was the point of this thread

>>18115328
>Women have easy access to dick save for a toothless homeless grandma even fatties can get dick easily
>Men do not have easy access to pussy save for Chads and Celebrities
I was a fat teenager and very few wanted to fuck me. And those who wanted to fuck me, didn't want to be seen in public with me. Which is kind of dehumanising.

And, anyway - I have better orgasms when I touch myself.
A guy who basically uses my body to masturbate feels a thousand times worse than my fingers.

>>18114587
>This was just kind of confusing. I don't see what the number of penises a man on his body has to do with enjoying group sex. Women have only one vagina? I'm not sure what you're getting at.
------ () -> matches perfectly
=== () -> matches perfectly
------ () () -> someone has to be left out

I think this is roughly what xe was trying to say.

>>18115376
I mean, in a threesome women can interact with each other or man can please the other girl with his mouth or fingers. Or even do that weird porn thing when the guy alternates between different pussies each time he thrusts (which is stupid, but possible). It's not like she has to sit there and wait for her turn, and it's not like two men can fuck the same pussy at the same time - one has to fuck the ass or the mouth.

>>18115390
>it's not like two men can fuck the same pussy at the same time

You poor thing.

>>18114756
Really? Never heard of it. My gf only cleans the cum after sex, but when I don't cum inside I don't remember she ever complaining about it. Maybe I just didn't notice it then.

Still, it seems worth it lol

>>18115528
Last week I had sex before going to work and I went through a meeting with cum leaking in my panties.
If he cums deep in me I have to push it out of my pussy (which is mildly uncomfortable, since I have IUD) or I just let it leak but it takes an hour or so.

>>18115501
kek

>>18115501
I don't know, my boyfriend cock makes me cry unless I am REALLY wet, I don't see where another cock could fit.

>>18115533
So not only do women get to have multiple orgasms, you also get to have cum leaking out your pussy and get stimulated hours later while at work.

Many girls get off to sucking dick. Many girls get off to getting fucked in the ass. Many girls get off to getting fucked in the pussy. That's 3 holes, 3 dicks.

The stigma of group sex and "slutty behavior" is dying so women are being more assertive with their desires and sexual exploration. That's fine and all

But it's not like a guy can say "let me sexually explore and have sex with 3 girls at once". If it was that simple we'd have word peace.

In the past it was better to be a man. In today's word it's objectively better to be a woman unless you're in a 3rd world county with backward laws or something

>>18115544
> you also get to have cum leaking out your pussy and get stimulated hours later while at work.
It just feels like I'm pissing myself. My underwear gets messy as hell.
I shave my pussy just because if I get cum leaking out of my pussy in a situation where I cannot clean myself up, the second I remove my underwear it feels like waxing.
Not really sexy or stimulating. Just mildly annoying.

No one orgasms from sucking dick. I love sucking my boyfriend's cock, but it turns me on because I love turning him on. I don't get mind blowing orgasms from it. My boyfriend gets boners from licking my pussy too.
Anal might be pleasant for some, but very few women orgasm from that.

It's more a psychological thing that a physically pleasant thing. You can enjoy having sex with three girls too, it's mainly a psychological thing.

>>18115551
>You can enjoy having sex with three girls too, it's mainly a psychological thing.

I can also enjoy getting Oprah to hand me $2mil in cash upfront.

Like the scenario you mentioned, it's possible, a psychological thing, but the chances of that happening to a bloke on the street are slim to none

>inb4 just hire prostitutes h3h3

>>18115557
Same for girls. Most people don't have threesomes.

>>18115558
LOL

>>18114548
>Attractive women can have multiple orgasms
Attractive women are not more likely to have multiples than women in general

>Gender power dynamics are shifting and women have this, plus the ability to become CEOs, doctors lawyers and have positions of power. I'm not against women's rights but I'm jealous as fuck that they have it so good in the dating realm so much so that I don't even want to date or talk to girls anymore because I'm jelly as fuck of them
So you man men can't do these things? Btw, women still have to worry about rape and violence. You ever hear a man worry about that from dating?

>>18115562
More men than women are interested in threesomes. More men then women have threesomes.

Men are just overall luckier when it comes to sex, the fact that you cannot understand it is ridiculous.
While nearly all men had an orgasm last time they had sex, just 60% of women had an orgasm the last time they had sex.
You complain about not getting multiple orgasms when a large part of women didn't even come once.

>>18115564
>women still have to worry about rape and violence. You ever hear a man worry about that from dating?

To a lesser extent, yes. Rape and abuse against men is a thing that isnt talked about because men are expected to "suck up" getting stabbed by an ex-girlfriend or being emotionally abused and beaten with a baseball bat by our mothers.

>>18115569
>More men than women are interested in threesomes.

Depends on the type of threesome

>More men then women have threesomes.

Probably because the threesome most likely to occur is an MMF threesome, read: two men to one woman. Of course there's going to be more men who will say they do it- it's the very nature of the act.

>Men are just overall luckier when it comes to sex

I wholeheartedly disagree

Just being an attractive woman doesn't mean you get to fuck anyone you want whenever you want. You still need to pretty yourself up, go out and seduce people.

Even then that doesn't mean you get to fuck the hottest guys and you still have to settle for sloppy one-night stands at the club. Real life isn't like a damn porno where you get to engage in wild sex acts at the drop of a hat with strangers at the library.

And the reality is that you could bang a lot of chicks if you wanted to. If you prettied yourself up and went down to the club you wouldn't struggle to find a slut that would ride your dick on a Saturday night. And at least you'd get to cum.

I know you'll wheel out a bunch of bullshit excuses about how you're not sexy enough or charismatic enough, but if you wanted to you could be having a lot more sex. But you aren't, so why aren't you?

>>18115580
>Depends on the type of threesome
Actually surveys show that 80% of men and 30% of women are interested in threesomes.

>I wholeheartedly disagree
A lot of women don't even come during sex. There are women who don't experience orgasms ever.
Your idea that every girl can get multiple orgasms by sitting in the same room of a man is ridiculous.

>>18115585
>I know you'll wheel out a bunch of bullshit excuses about how you're not sexy enough or charismatic enough, but if you wanted to you could be having a lot more sex. But you aren't, so why aren't you?

Keep making assumptions and building up that strawman. Does it feel good?

>>18115585
>Just being an attractive woman doesn't mean you get to fuck anyone you want whenever you want.

>You still need to go out and seduce people.

You mean breathe?

Nobody talks about it, but the fact is, women will never be able to achieve the highest "status", this role is reversed for men, as women have almost none attraction to men of lower status, so the really high status and influence can only be achieved by men.
Also, they dont have it good in the dating realm, because they are the chosen, they dont chose, and besides its not gonna last forever.
Of course, being a mediocre man compared to those girls sucks. But being a high-quality man is much more above.

>>18115594

How is that a strawman argument? I'm not sure you know what that means.

>>18115596

I mean theoretically you could just meet up for random sex via Tinder. But that's a really shallow experience and very few women would actually do it more than a few times.

But again, you could do it as well, though I doubt you'd have the same success rate as a women. In a club you'll have a similar level of success because you're really only going to get laid once whether you're a man or a woman.

If you think all it takes for a woman to fuck a hot dude is to breathe then you are living in your fantasy porno world. They have to socialize and allure men to them.

>>18115601
>they don't choose
Are you high?

>being a high quality man is much more above

>if you're in the top 5% of the population life will be better for you heehee

>>18115585

>but if you wanted to you could be having a lot more sex. But you aren't, so why aren't you?

Not him. But I honestly think I'm good looking enough, and have a noticeably likeable personality, i can get along with anyone and can converse about everything. But, I'm far too intimidated to meet girls outside of a fully platonic context.

>>18115608
>Are you high?
Well, they only chose from men who chose them.
Also, to be a top-tier man is easier, as you dont need looks much (not saying you dont need it at all, but the influence of looks is GREATLY diminished and genetics play almost no role)
So if you are a low-tier man blame it on yourself

>>18115607
You're assuming a lot with your "you don't get laid lol just go to a club". It's easier to talk shit to a schlub who hasn't been around the block with women so you can insert your bullshit talking points here and there to make yourself feel better.

As someone who has done the clubbing, dating, multiple partners, fuck dudes wives and girlfriends, LTR of multiple years, the whole 9 yards, and interacts with women in a non-sexual basis very frequently,

Yes, all an attractive woman has to do is fucking breathe to get laid.

Go ahead, be predictable. "You're living in a fantasy nothing you say is true you need to go out more lol". Post it so you can feel superior.

>>18115618

Wow. What made you so butthurt? It sounds like you're in tears here. My comment is in response to someone saying, "how do I stop being jealous of pretty women who can get laid easily?"

But you're telling me that you get laid all the time, yet you are deeply upset at the fact that pretty women can do it more easily than you? I don't even see the problem you have.

If you're not OP then you're getting incredibly upset over nothing.

>>18115623
>I don't even see the problem you have.

Of course you don't. Solipsism is a hell of a drug

>>18115623

Not him, and I never get laid because I don't go out seeking sex. But even still, I think it's incredibly intimidating know that all of these attractive girls out there are getting loads of sex all the time.

I don't know why, but it intimidates me. It makes me avoid talking to attractive women because they get so much sex that they are so experienced. Why would they even bother with me? Even tho I'm fit, decent looking, dress well, and am personally successful. Why the hell would they even bother with a 26 year old who hasn't seen a pair of tits since high school.

>>18115629

I feel like I'm in an argument with a teenage girlfriend.

You came here asking to have your mind changed. What the fuck kind of response did you expect?

And it's hugely implicit that the OP isn't getting laid. If the OP had said:
>I bang chicks whenever I want, but I'm really jealous that hot chicks can have multiple orgasms and get spitroasted. How do I stop hating pretty women?

People would just have gone... wtf are you talking about?

>>18115632

That's a reasonable insecurity to have, but in my experience (aka anecdotally) how pretty a girl is has very little relation to how many dicks she's taken.

Why would they bother with you? I guess because they like you and if you're going after women under 26 a lot of them won't ever have had particularly good sex before.

But hey, why even worry about pretty girls. Just focus on the average looking ones.

>>18115639

>People would just have gone... wtf are you talking about?

Why?

>>18115648
My experience tells otherwise.

>>18115649

Because there is no connection between being attractive and being able to experience multiple orgasms.

And you can totally take a cock in the mouth if you want or get your ass fingered in a threesome. I guess you can't experience having a vagina, but it seems like a very trivial concern. They'll never have their cocks noshed on.

>>18115648
>how pretty a girl is has very little relation to how many dicks she's taken
Well the logic behind it is easy, a girl is pretty, means is approached a lot (give or take), has more probabilities of meeting cool guys, why wouldnt she have sex with them?
Seems fair enough

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>>18115648

>how pretty a girl is has very little to do with how many dicks she's taken.

Why do you say that? The more attractive they are. The more guys try to Fuck them. Like, you don't think pic related is well versed in sex?

Well, even with the positive things I've said about myself. I still have a hard time seeing an decently attractive girl being interested in me. I'm never had good sex before. The only 2 times I've done it were so uncomfortable for me that during the sex I was hoping it'd hurry up and be over.

I'm not expecting a 10/10. But, I'd feel really guilty if I started dating a 5/10 and then later started wishing I had a 7/10. That feels wrong to me.

>>18115666
>Like, you don't think pic related is well versed in sex?

DESU she's probably a starfish. The really pretty "Barbie" type of women usually are. Hot girls who are actually good in bed are far and few between.

The 6-8's will always be 'second best' to these women so they make up for it by actually putting effort in the sack

>>18115665

Yeah, but the thing is most girls can get laid whenever they want. All of the big sluts I know are actually pretty ugly and I suspect it has a lot to do with their insecurities at being ugly. The pretty girls on the other hand are able to get more attractive and intelligent guys, so they don't seem to go a fuck random guys at parties as much.

Again that's anecdotal. Though I don't think I'm wrong. Being a slut has more to do with your personality than whether you're pretty. There are plenty of pretty girls who prefer to stay at home and watch television, and the reality is that many of them don't lead lives where getting hit on is logistically common.

Although this will have a lot to do with what you think is attractive. It's quite possible you think trashy club whores are pretty, while I'm more into the librarian type.

>>18114776
This sounds like a lot of work for orgasms. Not worth my time.

>>18115673
The attractive intelligent girls are smart enough not to let their "slutty side" public knowledge. The cute librarian/law/Med student is still getting railed by randoms- they know there's more at stake to their reputations so they're more discreet.

>>18115585
>I know you'll wheel out a bunch of bullshit excuses about how you're not sexy enough or charismatic enough, but if you wanted to you could be having a lot more sex. But you aren't, so why aren't you?
Two words: cultural penalty.

>>18115670

That's still incredibly intimidating..

And I'm moving to a Beach town.. fuck my life

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>>18115678

That might the case, but I still don't think a girl's attractiveness will have a huge correlation with her number of sexual partners.

I couldn't find any real data, but apparently fat chicks get laid more than skinny ones. Who knew?

>>18114609

>I hate that I'm so weak physically. I wish I could walk around at night and if I get robbed beat up the guy that tries

If you're in the US, save up a few hundred bucks and get a cheap reliable little .380 to keep in your purse and a concealed carry license. If you have any friends that own pistols ask them for help. I'm sure they would be happy to help you pick something out and teach you to shoot it, gun people love teaching newbies. The peace of mind it will bring you will be life changing I guarantee it.

>>18115686

>apparently fat chicks get laid more than skinny ones. Who knew?

This makes sense. Fat chicks are more willing to put out because they want affection.


But I don't think that chart is right. I had a hard time believing that most girls have only had 6 partners in their lifetime

Getting late to the threesome discussion but FUCK, how can someone think that it's better for a woman???

It's just about the same, yeah yeah there's DPand tits for the ladies but other than that I'd really say men got the advantage in threesomes

I had a few with my gf and it's hot as fuck, specially because two girls can keep going on almost indefinitly. First, if you're a girl in a MMF, you'll have to pray that neither guy cums and falls into refractory, and two, most guys into it aren't bi so they won't interact with each other.

As a guy with two girls, you can cum and count on them to keep going to turn you on again, you got to witness hot lesbian sex and take part into it, and the moaning and spasms are almost nonstop if at least two of you know what you're doing.

I'd say the next best thing to being a guy in a threesome, is being a girl in a FFM threesome. But being a girl in a MMF seems inferior to being any gender in an FFM (as long as the girl is bi, ofc)

>>18115601
Try being an unworthy man. That's even worse than being a woman in this society.

>>18115697
>I had a hard time believing that most girls have only had 6 partners in their lifetime
I personally know just one girl that had more than 3 partners at 25.

>I had a hard time believing that most girls have only had 6 partners in their lifetime

Well, it is an American survey so a lot of them will be overweight. But that number is probably about right for the average. People in general are likely just not having sex as much as you think they are, and keep in mind that the vast majority of people don't even go to bars or clubs.

That average is including uggos, Christians, nerds, freaks and so on.

>>18115697
>But I don't think that chart is right. I had a hard time believing that most girls have only had 6 partners in their lifetime

Let's use critical thinking skills. Where did the numbers come from? Did the researchers follow women around and log the number of times they fucked a guy in the bathroom or on a study abroad trip, or did they use SELF REORTED (read: bullshit) statistics?

>>18115705

Really? Were they decent looking?

I just feel like that is rare.

>>18115705
>I personally know just one girl that had more than 3 partners at 25.

Really? The vast majority of women i know have had more than i know have had at least 20 partners (on the Low end) by then. Upper/upper middle class folks too think Ivy League educated consultants grad students engineers and of course gold digging trophy wives

>>18115706
People also lie on surveys.

>>18115715

>had at least 20 partners (on the Low end) by then

intimidating... Fuck.

>>18115713
Yeah, I'd say so.
One of them is a model and she is virgin at 21. I have another friend who is virgin, she's turning 25 in 2 days - she's average. A bit nerdy looking, but in shape and cute.
All my other friends are turning 25 this year and they are above average in terms of looks, and all had a couple of partners at most.
My best friend is stunning, but she had a few partners - I think double digits, but I didn't really count. She's also overall dysfunctional as a person, tho.

>>18115722
>Be friends with women
>believe their numbers

Praise Kek

>>18114609
>I hate that I'm so weak physically. I wish I could walk around at night and if I get robbed beat up the guy that tries.
get a gun retard

>>18114726
It's not easy for me. I'm not sure it's really the way you think it is.

>>18115715
None of my friends had nearly 20 partners. Even the sluttiest one had less than 15.
We're all educated - I met most of my friends in med school, people I've known since high school are either in law school or finishing their masters.
Middle class, some have divorced parents, some don't.

I don't know, it seems like you're exaggerating.

the real difference is its not possible to be a female incel, having no intimacy in my life really sucks

>>18115724

Why do people lie?

I'm a guy, I've only been with 1 girl that was an ONS, which was an awful experience for me when I was 19. I'm 26 now. I don't lie about it, because it's the truth. But I have noticed people always act shocked and weird when they find this out..

>>18115724
>Be friends with women
I am a girl. Who should I be friends with?

I go out with my friend, I've known them forever. Unless they have a secret second life and fuck randos off craiglist, those numbers are pretty accurate. Even the sluttiest friend never had a one night stand.

>>18114548
yeah it sucks, i guess

but my life is okay too. i have a warm bed, a job, a car and never go hungry. Isn't that enough?

sure i'll never romantically connect with another human or have a family, but I can stand on my own two feet.

>>18115729
It seems your friends aren't sex positive ;)

>>18115732
People lie not to appear slutty. A girl will tell a guy shes only slept with 5 guys when it's really been 50 so he doesn't think she's "used goods". It applies the other way as well. A guy will tell a girl he's only slept with 5 girls when he's really slept with 50, or 0, depending on his intention.

>>18115733
>Even the sluttiest friend never had a one night stand.

I'm starting to think you and your friends are the exception, not the norm. I had a one night stand 3 days ago lol

>>18115686
>Underweight
>Male
Well…guess I'm fucked.

>>18114609
Femanon here, feeling the same.

Also anons saying 'get a gun' are ignorant USA fags who have to be reminded that guns and carrying of guns aren't that legal and acceptable anywhere else in the world.
Yes, an option would be pepper spray for example. But it doesn't count as being able to defend yourself on your own without having to count on using and having at your disposal something else.

>>18115814

You carry keys on you right? Those are a weapon.

If you were about to get in a real situation, and put those keys in between your fingers, that would be a fight. People would probably leave you alone if they saw that they will experience some pain.

>>18115792

Don't worry anon. Some women prefer skinny boys. My bf is super lean and i think he's the sexiest man alive.

>>18115814
>ignorant USA fags who have to be reminded that guns and carrying of guns aren't that legal and acceptable anywhere else in the world.
that's not our fault lol

enjoy your migrant rapes, you voted for them after all

>>18115823
You're implying those are rapes.

You and I know damn well European women are actively campaigning for Arab and African dicks to cum into their countries because western European men are feminine as fuck

>>18115819

>Some women prefer skinny boys

Yeah.. but do Attractive women like skinny guys? Are you attractive? (No offense)

>>18114548
When you realize that most women are boring philistines you'll know.

I'm an attractive guy and going to school for film. I know I'm probably going to not make money later and not get a McWife and McMansion like the business or stem people or whatever, but girls really like me right now. And the fact of the matter is they usually aren't much special.

What you need to do is focus on yourself OP. Get good at your art, get better at your instrument or voice. Get better at writing. Read more. Get good at rhetoric. There just aren't many chicks, even in the music scene, who do things for any more reason than a group or social acceptance. And their personalities fall flat because of that.

If you stop valuing social status as being important to you then these women will not have anything you are jelous of.

Raise your values above social status and work towards them and you will be better than these women and see them for what they really are.

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>>18115823

Polish girl said this :^)

>>18115836
Lol lean =\= skinny. You fell for the femtalk bait

>>18115819

None taken lol but yes, fortunately we both are

>>18115840
This, when women say skinny they are thinking about ottermode.

>>18115849
How hard is it to work out?

It's basic hygeine

>>18115834
thanks for reminding me

im sad now

>>18115840
>>18115849

Well, I was referring to lean.

I'm just about ottermode. I'm thin but I do have some visible muscle definition.

>>18115859
Yeahn but you sound insecure as fuck

women aren't a shit

just talk to them and you'll realize this

>>18115853
Yeah mate, just work out. Floop your arms back and forth with dumbbells and then jog 5 miles a day while stuffing your face with bread and soy. Don't bother reading about a lifting program, getting proper mobility and flexibility so you don't snap your shit, and the new grind out an established lifting, cardio an sich calorie balancing act for multiple years before you see any tangible results

No just floop around, jog and wear neon colored tights and your body will be good enough for the people you're trying to attract

Oh oops we're talking about men, not women, sorry!

>>18115863

The only thing im insecure about in my entire life is my looks. People would consider me very successful in every other aspect. But, I'm extremely self conscious about my looks.

Even tho I'm nearly ottermode. I don't feel comfortable approaching cute girls.

>>18115865
Dude I drink whiskey every day and eat burritos and pizza and I look better than 95% of people around me

Its not rocket science to lift weights and do cardio

You're just a puss

>>18115872
95% of people look like dogshit. Congratulations for being the smartest kid in special ed

>>18115880
Unless you're competing there is no reason to need anything more.

>>18115870
Again, girls a shit

Like get that through your head. They should be proving themselves to you, not the other way around.

>>18115911

>They should be proving themselves to you, not the other way around

Perhaps, but that's not how it actually works. I feel confident enough to say that I'm decent looking. But girls still don't approach me.

>>18115916
Girls rarely approach anyone unless they're desperate.

You have coworkers who want to fuck you though, right?

>>18115918

>You have coworkers who want to fuck you though, right?

I don't know why you'd even assume that... but no. I work in a male dominated job. I have only 1 female co-worker, but I don't think she's attractive and she has openly said she's only attracted to blacks anyways. So no, I don't think she wants to fuck me

>>18115926
Cucked lmao

>>18115926
Oh, because everywhere I've ever worked female coworkers do. Makes sense in your field though. I was in retail for a while now I'm in behavioral health care.

>>18115930

How am I cucked? I don't want her. I was just responding to the other anons question.

>>18115934

Yeah. I'll never work in a field with lots of women. Infact, I'm rarely around women as I never see them at the gym or the grocery store either.

Literally the only time I'm around large amounts of women is once or twice a year when I travel internationally and stay in Hostels. There is always really gorgeous girls at the Hostels. But they never approach me.

>>18115947
Sounds like you need to do something that brings you into contact with more women and more frequently.

>>18115948

Well, I've asked this question a dozen times on this fucking board the past few days but nobody answers me...

I'll be moving to a beach town this fall. How do I meet women in a beach town by myself? Also note, I have no interest in ONS/FWB.

>>18115948
Being a cuckold accomplishes this

>>18115951
>Also note, I have no interest in ONS/FWB.

Youre a beta. Eat some meat and go bench something meeting divorcees and flabby 40somethings in a beach town are the least of your problems

>>18115957

What?

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>>18115849

Well i meant skinny, similar to pic related.
I've dated ottermode before too but muscle doesn't really matter to me I just would never date a fat guy.

get over jealousy by realising women live low risk low reward lives for the most part where as men, being natural risk takers and logical thinkers liver higher risk higher reward lifes. what we lack in sluttiness we gain in lack of bindings

>>18115951
You aren't going to immediately meet a girlfriend amigo. Play the field and have some sex. Besides, you want to know if she's good in bed before she's your gf. Sex is half a relationship.

>>18115964
That looks sickly, most guys would die virgins looking like this.

>>18115974
>that one 19 year old who discovered /fit/ and thinks he's solved lifes riddle

>>18115969

>Play the field and have some sex.

I don't want to do that.

>>18115965
>attractive woman
>live low risk life
>get millions of dicks to chosen from
>fuck college athletes and chads until 34
>marry a rich sucker
>divorce him
>acquired his money
>continue to fuck chads except own you're rich

VS.
>man
>more likely to be autistic
>jerks off, gets a rebound fuck once in a while from a drunk Stacy who regrets it later
>you "raped" her
>now you're in jail
>be a risk taker and decide to look Bubba in the eye in general population
> get brutally sodomized
>get out of jail
>kill yourself

Sounds great

>>18115974

It's not. The shirt he's wearing makes him look taller and thinner.

>>18115980
too bad

>>18115979
I never browsed fit, and I'm not saying all women like muscley Chads but that guy looks like a kid.

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>>18115983
This is what a man should look like

>>18115985
>I'm not saying all women like muscley Chads

Too bad they do

>>18115984

Dude..


I don't want to have random sex. If I'm going to have sex, I only want to do it with a girl I'm comfortable with.

My only 2 sexual experiences were ONSs, and they were awful experiences. I regret them and don't want that again. It fucked me up.

>>18115990
So get a fwb. Sex doesn't get good until the 3-5th time with someone anyway.

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>>18115986

Zack Efferon is nearly ottermode, and he's gotten some serious pussy, still does.

>>18115974

Thats just your opinion, there are alot of naturally skinny men who are extremely healthy.

>>18115990
You're a huge pussy

>>18115996
Zak Effron is a turbo manlet and will never govern a state

>>18115819
I can count on a single hand how many women I have knowingly known were attracted to me. I am also a virgin. I have only been in one relationship. I am not a teenager, nor am I of college age.

You are right, some women prefer thin guys, but you're not easy to find. Are you attractive in the first place?

>>18115840
I'm not skinny, I'm thin. I hate the adjective, "skinny." It has so many negative connotations. I would consider myself fit. I'm toned but not ripped.

>>18115993

I don't feel comfortable with that. I don't see sex as this "casual" thing like you do.

>>18115988
They don't, but you have to look like a man, with decent arms and shoulders.

>>18115996
He's also a celebrity you idiot

>>18115999

How?

>>18116004
>they dont
>but they do ;)

Women not even care about what you look like THAT much. It's more of who you are, or what you do do. Having a fit body be a byproduct of a fit lifestyle.

Obsessing over looks cause men are visual... is gay. You're a homosexual.

>>18116002
Are you bad in bed or what?

>>18116012
You don't need to be too fit to have decent arms and broad shoulders. It's all about the manly and dominating look, you don't need to be ripped or have visible abs for that, although there is indeed a risk she would left you over someone who does have those though.

>>18116013

I mean, judging off the 2 ONS I did, both girls texted me the next day saying they wanted to do it again. But I declined both of them. They seemed like they had fun, and the fact they both texted me the next day confirms so.

I didn't like it tho. I did not like getting intimiate with someone I didn't really know. I felt really uncomfortable

>>18116020
You know what the f part of fwb stands for right?

>>18114657
Try getting raped by a world class bounty hunter? Women love that shit and some only have orgasm from rape

>>18115691
>>18115725
I'm not from the US and heavily against guns btw.
Also even if, it would only be a "tool" that I use. I wish that the power would come from me. That I'm the one who is able to defend myself even with nothing but my bare hands, and not just person that is able to bend a finger and pull a trigger. I think >>18115814 knows that feel.

>>18116022

Yes. But I can't do this whole "hey so, i'm bored. After you get done with class, wanna come over and we can have sex for a few hours?"

That is too casual. I can't do that shit. The whole "using someone else for pleasure" thing is weird.

>>18116028
>Women love that shit and some only have orgasm from rape

THIS THIS THIS. Women baww about weak orgasms but will cum buckets if they're "raped" in an alley way or taken to a surprise. Google women who NEVER orgasmed with their husband and but did during rape OR women who got raped in the past and MASTURBATE to the thought of them getting chokefucked by their rapist.

"Consent" and "love" are bogus judeo-christian social constructs.

Women want to be taken by masculine men who don't be give a fuck.

>>18116032
It's a mutual relationship though. It's not like you're playing her.

>>18116044

Yeah. But she's still just using my dick to get herself off. Like a toy.

Compared to a girl who actually really cares about me and wants to get me off.

FwB just seems too casual. At any time she could just change her mind, or find a guy she likes more and start fucking him too. That's really odd to me.

>>18116001

Already answered that question here >>18115845

To be fair, he has facial asthetics, easily 8-9/10 but amazingly was still a virgin because the girls hes dated were stupid hoes that cheated too early before it got intimate so he didn't really have a long term relationship before me.
Alot of women are attracted to thin men but some are intimidated because women like to compare themselves to their partner. Few women are really okay with being the fatter one in a couple because of the stereotypes.
In our case I'm not fat but he's really tall so his waist is always going to appear thinner than mine. Idc because hes amazing.
You might be that way for someone too but unfortunately women usually do expect men to make the first move.

>>18116046
Sounds more like shes bad in bed. My chick wants to get me off and likes being wanted by me. She gets turned on by sucking my dick and says she loves doing it.

>>18116048
I never thought about that.

I thought I feel the same, but then you need to realize that to have it good as a woman you need

a)live in a western country
b) look good
c) be in prime age (16-25, max 30)

now you have already by far most women sorted out on this planet.

also consider all those bitch fights inbetween girls, having to deal with menstruation, old creepy dudes hitting on you etc.

We guys still got the upperhand in quality of life, we can be much more independent and much less afraid of travelling or going to sketchy places. Let alone pregnancy and being left.
(western) Females only win during the few years of their prime, this is if they look good. afterwards they need to deal with the shock of not getting any attention anymore and being replaced by younger females.

Guys can be in their prime whenever, it's just a question of status and money. looks is just an extra if you don't look ultra creepy and shitty.

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>>18116048

I know I need a lot of improvements still. I only go to the gym once a week, but I'm trying to increase that.

How shitty do I look..?

>>18116069
You look normal

>>18116053

It was hypothetical. I've never had a FwB.

Why don't you just make her your girlfriend? Exactly what you're doing makes the whole "relationship" thing seem so cheap to me. If people can just fuck each other all week long without a relationship. What's the point of anything?

It just makes sex/dating/relationship/love seem really cheap to me..

>>18116075
You're fucking hopeless man

>>18116073

Well, I don't feel comfortable with it.. I don't even like taking my shirt off infront of people. Or even wearing short sleeve shirts. I hate when summer comes around..

>>18116079

I don't understand how I'm hopeless because I've never had a "FwB" nor feel comfortable with it. I don't see how a FwB would be any better than the shit ONS I had.

If I'm going to be lewd with a girl. I'd rather it be with a girl who I have feelings for. Why is that wrong?

>>18116048

You definitely have more weight than my bf. Are you the one calling yourself skinny? Because you seem average healthy weight. Maybe you just feel smaller next to all the fatties but you look great

>>18116075
We decided to do that when we had sex before she flew back east to see her family. She had asked me if I was sleeping with anyone else prior to that so I reckon she caught feelings. She has good values and is fun to hang out with so I figured it would be good. I also have to work on my relationship skills in that I often will go cold and ghost girls for a percieved transgression. I may or may not be borderline.

Sex is cheap. But good sex is half of an actual relationship.

>>18114548
>prefers MMF over FFM
>jealous of women, physically
>wants the female lifestyle
Anon, you might be trans. I'm not joking.

And if you think women are equal in the workplace, top kek, are you in for a surprise!

>>18116048
I'm certain I could fit into women's jeans.

>>18116069
Opps accidentally quoted myself to my post
>>18116095
This was for you

>>18114609
>And I hate that I got accepted in IT classes only to fulfill a quota and not because I can actually code well.
Can't hate it too much seeing as you accepted it.

>>18116080
Confidence goes far honestly. Just feel comfortable with it and you're fine. You're not bad off to be honest.

>>18116097

So, you're saying when I move I should try to "FwB" a nice girl?

I don't even know how to do that.

>>18116100
>>18116105

I feel confident with everything else in my life. I'm on a very successful career path, accomplishing goals, likeable by people, I am pretty knowledgeable and can talk about any topic. People even come me very often for advice.

But.. all of that shit goes out then window when it comes to my body. I feel like a total beta at the gym. And when friends have invited me to pool parties, I was the guy who kept his shirt on until the moment he got into the pool. As soon as I'd get out of the water, my shirt would go back on.

>>18116107
Ask her to hang out. Then talk when you aren't having sex. Then ask her to go to a concert or museum or shopping or to an art festival or to literally any activity. Hang out, fuck after. Continue doing this then establish exclusivity and directly ask her if it is just sex or if she wants something more.

Communication is the other half of relationships aside from sex.

>>18115585
>you're not sexy enough or charismatic enough
>bullshit excuses
OKAY

>>18116112
Dude, just stop caring and drink a beer in that senario. Action defines you more than looks do.

>>18116113

I don't know. I'll think about this.

I just don't want to be used.

>>18116117
Stop overthinking and just have fun. Let your subconscious take over. Get out of your head and experience life.

>>18116116

that's not as easy as it sounds when you're surrounded by alphas. At all the pool parties I've been to, I've been the skinniest there. Most are very /fit/. It makes me feel small as fuck. Like I'm a kid or something

>>18116123
I'm honestly more impressed by the fat or skinnyfat guys who don't give a fuck than the fitter guys. You should have fun in the moment rather than worry about what other people think because protip: no one cares as much as you

>>18116099

So? That doesn't make you undateable.
Just wear the pants designed for your body type. Korean fashion is a good place to look for great clothing styles designed for thin men. Some skinny guys try to hide their figure behind baggy clothes which is way less flattering.

Think about what you think looks good on a petite thin woman, and consider that when you're buying clothing for yourself. Basically oversized clothing looks good on nobody so stop trying to hide your perfectly healthy body under all that cloth.

>>18116127

maybe you say that about their personalities. But physically, you find the /fit/ guys more attractive.. right?


I feel pretty ashamed of my body Tbh

>>18116123
Stop being a bitch, no one cares about your body. You probably just feel jealous of the fit guys.

>>18114659
As a dude who never gets laid, I'd still pick lifting boxes. Shit even if i was a chick there's no doubt i'd go full lesbo. Probably 80% of guys are real douche bags. And the same goes for women which are 80% stuck up cunts. But I sure as shit like not being afraid to throw hands with a nigga.

>>18115836
>do attractive women like skinny guys

As a short, skinny guy who's been told by attractive women that I'm

>cute
>handsome
>beautiful

I would say that yes, it's true.

I'm sure the number would go up if I worked out, but that's just common sense.

>>18116491
Did you actually got together with any of them though?

>>18116530
I love skinny guys.
My first boyfriend was short and skinny, my second was very tall and skinny.
I basically never dated anyone who wasn't skinny as hell.

I am fairly attractive. Not a model, but decent.

>>18116530
A couple of them yeah.

But whatever would happen to make me not hook up with/be with them had less to do with how I looked and more to do with my personality. I will be perfectly honest with you though, if you're a really thin guy AND you have no confidence or "game" then it just amplifies you're perceived lack of physical attractiveness.

Believe me though, I see enough short/skinny guys with good looking girls...but let's be honest here. It's kinda shallow and hypocritical to want only attractive girls if you don't want to make an effort to be attractive yourself.

>>18116128
Where three fuck did I say I prefer baggy clothing? I don't! I wear clothing that fits me. How about asking some questions instead of assuming the fucking stereotype? And I'm telling you, it's not that my clothes don't fit well.

But I'll never wear skinny jeans.

>>18114548

Stop treating women like objects and start getting to know those attractive women. Once you realize that everyone has their own problems you'll start feeling more comfortable in your own skin.

>>18114776

Pfffgtvbhahahahahahahahaahahahahaha

>>18114548
Congratulations, this is the most retarded post I've ever read on this site. I have no words

>>18114587
This. Woman who can't orgasm easily here. I can only come by watching porn and using a showerhead. Any other way and nothing happens. My bf tried to finger me and gave me oral but it just left me feeling really fucking turned on with no release.

And lol I don't have a slew of men chasing after me. OP doesn't have a slew of women chasing after him because he's ugly af. If he was an attractive man he would have women throwing themselves over him too. Same thing with women. Those who aren't attractive don't get a slew of men chasing after them.

And women don't have prostates in their asses. We don't feel the same pleasure that a man does when he gets dicked in the butt. A man can definitely enjoy a threesome just as much, if not more, than a woman can.

>>18116763

Woah calm down, I didn't say you did i was just giving potential fashion advice because alot of skinny guys i know were uncomfortable about showing much skin because of their skewed personal perceptions. If you fly off the handle this easily you might look into your attitude and how not to overreact.

>>18114587
Yeah. A lot of guys don't seem to understand that while most (okay, nearly all) women can get sex basically whenever they want, it's not likely to be *good sex.* Most men would look at sex quite a bit differently if they weren't guaranteed an orgasm every time.

"Finding a guy who can actually make you cum" and "having sex at all" are about equally difficult propositions, for (most) women and men respectively.

There's also the fact that men generally get more attractive with age, whereas women peak in their early 20s and then it's just a long, slow fade. I mean in society's eyes, not necessarily in mine.

It always seems like sunshine and daisies when you're outside, looking in. It's very hard to be conscious of all the things that you DON'T HAVE TO struggle with.

>>18114607
>I wish I'd written this post. *fist bump* You are needed here.
I had no idea this board was filled with redditors

>>18117452
Go fuck yourself. This is SOP for dealing with people on 4chan.

>>18117475
>There's also the fact that men generally get richer with age

Fixed that for you

>>18117657
No, really - guys age like wine. Older guys look better and are usually just more interesting to talk to/better at flirting.
My boyfriend has always been kind of cute, now he's 29 and he is really fucking hot.

>>18117665
It's all cultural opinions

>>18117668
Well, it can be "cultural" as much as you want, but I find my boyfriend hotter now than he was when he was 20.

>>18117683
You just have major daddy issues.
You should probably kill yourself

>>18114776
You need help man

>>18114548
I am a good runner. It is just a hobbie I practice since a few years ago. My 10k time is better than the womens WR. This means that no women in the world (of the 3,5 bilion that exist) can run 10k faster than me. This is just an exemple. As a men, sports are just so much fun. You don´t need to be great or to make a lot of effort to see good results. For women to be good they need to train really hard.

I dont envy women sex. You do the penetration. That is something no women can ever say. If that interests you, you can be penetrated.

You get a lot of respect as a men. I cant remember the last time someone crossed me. While women are always getting creepy guys advances and stuff like that.

I am not hating women, I am just trying to show this faggot that we still have it way better.

>>18114548
just join Isis then

>>18118802
>comparing your physical capability to womes
Beta numales GTFO

>>18117665
Stereotype, not all guys age gracefully…and many of them want what they've always wanted: pussy. And they are very open about it.

I heard my mother on the phone with one of her friends complaining about this once. She wound up choosing a real winner: a middle-aged NEET that does nothing but bitch about politics.

>>18114659
/jp/ would like to have a word with you