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Pessimism vs. Realism and the hunt for a source of income

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You've always been a good sounding board for me before, /adv/, let's hope that continues.

So I'm really frustrated with my parents and therapist. All have agreed I need a job (me included), because my living situation is shit, but vocational rehab didn't know how to deal with someone like me, and I don't have the money to do something like learn a trade or go back to school.

Thing is, my mother and the doc think I should do something on the internet. Selling my art or writing, something with YouTube, Patreon, freelance coding, whatever.

Problem is, I know this is neither a real nor lucrative job and I know how cripplingly optimistic this idea is. Everyone I know who talks about comp sci/coding says that even if you DO teach yourself to code, it'll be obsolete in six months as someone whips out a new program/language that renders your work useless and you have to start all over. YouTube is a fickle shit when it comes to making sub money, and is saturated with content already (i.e. Let's Players). Selling art is a crapshoot on Tumblr unless you have a sob story or you know the right people, a crapshoot on dA and Furaffinity unless you pander to fetishists, and Patreon is a hellish combination of the two. Selling writing is even worse. Even if one uses a pseudonym, the networking issue is still a very real one.

My parents/doc tell me I'm being pessimistic and just shooting down all ideas, I say I'm more internet-savvy and realistically know this isn't a good income plan.

Thoughts, /adv/?
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>>18108965

This is just me, but I'd rather take a chance at achieving something difficult than spend my life doing something I fucking hate because it was easy.

Be as "realistic" as you want. The only one you're going to ultimately damage with your "why even bother trying" attitude is you.

Your attitude isn't a rare one. The world is populated with hundreds of millions of people working mind numbing jobs into their old age, daydreaming of all the things they could of done with their life when they were young if only they had tried.
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>>18108982

To be honest, I'm not actually adverse to the idea of working shit jobs as a stopgap. I have a Bachelor's in Psych, and while I know exactly what I want to do with it (my long-term career goal is working with treating the mentally ill in prisons; it's a necessity and the state I'm in has the highest percentage of them in the country).

However, I haven't been able to get my foot in a door anywhere. I don't have ID yet due to incredibly stupid reasons, and the only job experience I have was a shit-shoveling job from a friend of my mother's that I had to quit when the woman refused to communicate and started underpaying me (to the point it was not worth the labor I was putting in).

I'm also NOT unwilling to pander to fetishists, but again, networking = foot in the door. I'm pretty sure I can't just open up a social media account and throw up a sign that says "hello I am willing to draw/write any depraved shit you want for money."
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>>18109017

Doing things you hate as a stepping stone towards your ultimate goal is an entirely different matter. The road to success is not going to paved with things you will always enjoy doing.

How far you're willing to go to network and create opportunities for yourself is a decision you have to make on your own.
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>>18109089

Okay, I don't want to be rude, but I feel like I'm not being understood and getting well-meaning but ultimately useless platitudes instead of actual input, I'm sorry to say. Yes, I know that the road to success is basically paved with broken glass and that I need to make these decisions myself.

What I want to know is what other people think of either option, their experiences, whatever. In order to help me make a more informed decision, basically.

I mean I'm not going to fucking go through the trouble of making a bunch of pseudonym accounts to network and actually /try/ to do something like pandering for pornbux unless I think it's actually going to work, or if I should seek out another option entirely (what those are, I don't know, I wouldn't mind getting input in that regard, either).
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If you want a psychology based job working in a prison, then why not apply for one?

I work in a prison in the UK and we have tonnes of psychologists come through our gate. An entire wing is dedicated to experimental psychology and receives heavy funding from the government.

A bachelors in psychology should be more than enough to start you off as an assistant psychologist. Work your way up from there.
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>>18109196

I don't have any ID yet, nor experience, so I can't /legally/ get hired by anyone, unless my therapist decides to take pity on me, which, given that he just moved to a new office, is not happening anytime soon.

Unfortunately to get ID I need $1500 but to get that I need a job.

Hence why I was looking into other options/stopgaps.
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>>18108965
Artist here, used to do hentai commissions n shit. Stopped for similar reasons.

So here's an option.

Shit jobs. I became a roofer along the way, security guard, subway sandwich maker, power washing, painting, repairs, just anything that comes along.

If you wanna keep your dream alive, try animations on youtube, and linking a paypal donation link. That's what I'd do... if I wasn't too broke to afford decent internet.
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>>18109166

You are such a sheltered millenial omg...

No you arent going to be guaranteed a trophy for trying. Nobody knows when they are at the ground level if what they try is going to work. Your first attempts are going to probably suck or fail. You keep trying or do stuff a little differently and hope for different results. It takes time, you will make mistakes, you might just realize you dont like it at all and then you want to try something else.

It has to be grueling and a struggle because otherwise if it came naturally to you then you wouldnt appreciate it and you would not be happy. Because you dont really know what real struggle and hustling is you dont really know why it is you are depressed but the secret of happiness is understanding that humans are just sophisticated animals and animals get depressed when they are fenced in.

You need to pick out a gazelle, struggle to chase it down, lick your wounds when you fall on your ass and repeat several hundred times until you catch one. Your first gazelle might be sickly and old but you will sloely get better and have a pride that cannot be caged because you are a fucking lion.
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>>18109210
Don't understand the ID thing? you must be talking about a drivers license? Where do you live OP?
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>>18109210
Why does it cost $1500 to get an ID?

>>18109166
Getting actual jobs is easier than trying to make money online.
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>>18109394

...I want whatever drugs you're smoking. It's clearly some good shit.

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>>18109819

Yes and no. It's moreso I need to change my name and drop my father's surname off my own to get a driver's license/state ID, but to go through legal channels (i.e. the lawyer to go over/fill out/submit all that paperwork) costs $1500.

I'm in Florida by the way.
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>>18109947
Why do you need to do all that? Is your current name not good enough? Can't you just get an ID with your current name, then change it later down the road?
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>>18109947
Get a small loan. With a jail psychologist job you could easily pay it off in a short amount of time.
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>>18109961

I would but we already started the process - it's stupid but at the time we had the money for the change, then this group we got the money from took it back (apparently claiming we were paid 'by mistake'). So now it's stuck at a sort of in-between state with the lawyer we were using at the time.

>>18109996

I can't get a loan from our bank, my credit's not good enough (because having no income and all). Otherwise we'd have tried that method already.
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>>18110618
This whole ID thing stopping you from getting a job seems like complete BS. Why would you need this new name to get any job? Your goal is to get the 1500 dollars right? Work at McDonald's for 6 weeks. Do every odd job on Craigslist. Go to a temp agency. As for me, I'm going to stop responding to this post.
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>>18109947
You live in Florida. Name change packet cost 5 to 50. Court filing $420. Shouldnt have blown the 1000 on an attorney. But your attorney would ask for the money upfront. Not take your ID and hold it for ransom unless you are the complete fuck that you seem to be on 4chan.....oh wait.
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