How to be more patient with planning?

the only way is to make friends with planner-type people or do everything yourself and not worry about others

>>18067852
That's super frustrating and I can empathise with you Anon. I suggest that you take a step back from the situations and realize there's sometimes going to be things (people) that you can't control. The thing to realize is that trying to control the things you can't control is going wear you out and further piss you off, getting you where you are now. Focus on what you can control and plan for and learn to let some things roll off your back.

With that being said, sharing what you need from others can probably also be communicated in a more effective way than just saying you need people "to plan ahead like you." Framing your problem to them in this fashion causes people to become defensive. Try to communicate in a fashion that allows those people to feel like part of the solution. Does that make sense? How we communicate is a big part of people's negative or positive response to us.

>>18067852

>Now one guy is saying he can only do it tonight at 8 PM, because he "might get laid tomorrow."

drop him, he doesn't give a shit. don't rely on other people, do your own thing and if they want to come along they will.


>Well, the trip is in less than a month, and surprise surprise, no one bothered to check the prices or make plans

make the plans yourself. tell other people about the price. or just fuck them, again.

>How do I deal with people who won't plan ahead? It's not like I want to meticulously plan every step, just get the general and important frameworks in place.

just accept that it's how people are. Some people just like talking about how they're going to do things but when it comes down to it, they don't want to put in effort. Recognize those people and move on.