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ITT: Ask the opposite gender anything

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GUIDELINES:
Before you post a question, check the FAQ to see if it's already been answered.
Keep questions short for more answers.
If you're not going to like honest answers, don't ask your question.
And please no derailing arguments.

FAQ:
>Do girls/guys like <insert specific look>?
>What do girls/guys think about <an insecurity including, but not limited to: looks, physical traits, personality traits, virginity or otherwise lack of dating experience>
There is no one answer. Preferences differ, but complexes are always a turn-off.

>I'm shy and afraid of people/rejection. What do I do?
Get over it by practising and exposing yourself to it, little by little, step by step. There is no single magical moment that will instantly change you forever.

>I like someone. What do I do?
>How can I tell if someone likes me?
Ask them out.

>Where do I meet girls/guys?
Anywhere outside. Or online.

>Someone did something insignificant. What does it mean?
Nothing significant. You're overthinking it.

>XYZ happened. Interpret this for me please
We're not in their head, we don't know.

>This person did something that hurt my feelings. Why do guys/girls do this?
Because shit people are shit people. It's not a gendered thing.

>Someone has made it super clear they're no longer interested in me. Do I still have a chance?
No.

>Where do I go on a first (or subsequent) date?
Pick one or more of the following: coffee, lunch, dinner, drinks, ice cream, movies, zoo, aquarium, museum, art gallery, <activity in your city>.

>Brandon, that guy who keeps asking about cuddling in platonic friendships, that guy who says monogamy is dead and fart guy
Fuck off
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Is it possible to obtain complete immunity towards any and all rape accusations against you?

I can't even consider dating anything before I get full immunity, because of false rape accusation possibilities.

1% is literally too much.
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>>18066426
No, it is impossible.
In general, false rape accusations aren't nearly as common as people on this site think they are. If you use some common sense (don't fuck around, don't have sex with drunk/high people ever, date mentally stable people, don't hurt those you have sex with, etc) it's extremely unlikely that someone goes and accuses you of rape just because.
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Say the guy you have a crush on wants to fug your little sister. And he started talking to you and asking about her. It's safe to assume any girl in this position would hate this guy's gut and try to cockblock him right?
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>>18066436
Yeah, if a guy led me on to fuck my little sister I'd do my very best to ruin his chances with her, and with any girl I know.
That's a pretty shitty move.
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Asking again cause no one answered me ;_;

There's that girl, we used to talk at least once per week by text (we did study together since 2013 when i start on college and jump out of her class in 2014, since then we talk often by text) till the beggining of the past year when we start to talking to each other once per month till the day that (i feel that) she was a little cold when texting with me and was the last day we talk to each other.

Almost one year after our last conversation, i should say a hi to her for the sake of our friendship or its better to keep her on her own?
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>>18066438
>led me on
the fuq? the girl never talked to the guy before. The most they had was some flirtatious look. Then he talked to her as a friend, nothing wrong with that. Now out of nowhere she said she had a crush on him. Plus the sister went to different school it's hard to approach her any other way.
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I'm 18cm (7 inches) long and 14,5cm (5,7 inches) circumference cock-wise. I think it looks rather average and "thin". Is it average? How big of a deal cock size truly is for a woman?
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Girls and guys

So, in the past, I've tried meeting people online. I've had account an on Ok Cupid, Tinder, Plenty of Fish, and Interpals. Take note that all of my profiles were exactly alike, same bio and pictures. I live in the USA

On OKC, POF, and Tinder in a 2 year timeframe. TOTAL, I only met 2 girls IRL. 98% of the time, girls would never ever message me or even reply to my messages.

But on Interpals, QT 3.14s message me all the time! Literally, my inbox would always be getting messages from very attractive European girls. I'd get messaged saying "hey you're very cute :) " all the time. Which is a total polar opposite from what my experiences were with the other websites here in the states.

Is this just American girls or what? Because my profiles were all the same. But the only ones who actually want to talk to me are Europeans. Which, isn't a bad then except for they are way too far away..
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>>18066535
thought american girls are much easier?
August last year in Singapore I fucked one hottie who stayed in the same hotel with me after knowing her for 2 days
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>>18066532
Larger and thicker than average.
Cock size matters to an extent, if you're around average it is okay for most women.
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>>18066525
Do you approach and exchange flirtatious looks with your male friends? No, right? Then you weren't trying to talk to her as a friend.
And it's pretty mean to use people to get to fuck their siblings, and much meaner if they have a romantic interest in you.
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>>18066532
You'll be fine
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>>18066541

If you're a foreigner probably.

But like I said, on Tinder, I very very rarely would get matched with a girl, and on OKC and POF only 1 girl ever replied to me, we met IRL but she didn't look like her picture. For a while I thought maybe my profile was lame or something. But on Interpals I am still getting lots of messages from good looking girls. So it can't be a problem with my profile
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>>18066554
Or a Chad.
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>>18066532
It's good enough to have sex if the girl is attracted to you, but not nearly big enough to be a deciding factor that tips the scale if she isn't. Also it won't impress people who like big dick if that's a big deal for them.
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>>18066554
Well I'm Swedish (inb4 cuck) and I don't use those apps, but you might be right, maybe American girls just have a lot of options online.
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>>18066466
>1 year
If it's been one year since you've talked to her I'd let it go.
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>>18066545
>Do you approach and exchange flirtatious looks with your male friends
Actually...

ok so I already talked to her, bullet had left the gun, how do I get to her sister now? we have no other mutual friends, do I go to her house? wait at her school? (lol)
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>>18066553
I think I get it now.

I mean, of course the logic was there, but the question wasn't the why, but the why of why we ask the question in the first place.

The perpetuation, it's a trap.
Objective, yet out of control, spurring that which cannot exist.

Retribution, or fact?
Perhaps both.

In the end, it cannot matter more than we allow it to.
We can't live outside of our own means.

Biology. Society developed in accordance to desire. Population. Diversity. Availability.

It's statistics.

The solution? Evolution. Interesting.
I think I can fix this, actually.
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do latinas like white guys these days? where do you even find them?
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>>18066557

Well, yeah.

>>18066565

Well, you probably got laid on the fact of your accent alone.
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A decent guy actually seems to like me for once. He asked on a date and at the end he went in for a kiss. This is the second date we went on and he asked to hang out a handful of times before that as well.

I can't believe someone that I actually had sort of a crush on likes me back?

Im so afraid my insecurity is going to ruin it early on. So far I've been doing really good with showing interest irl but avoiding looking clingy and desperate in communication. So he will think I like him but I'm still doing my own thing.


What I'm really worried about is the thoughts in the back of my head I feel so ugly all the time I have to question why someone would like me. I tell my self there has to be an ulterior motive. Not even anything normal like just sex, I feel like he wants to humiliate me in some way. Im very suspicious and paranoid of his true intentions. he seems like a normal well adjusted guy but I am still unsure


any advice?
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>>18066599
>any advice
have you offered him a blowjob? do it. It's the easiest way to have a man by the ball and see if he's scheming something dark.
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>>18066599

Realise that he's with you because he thinks you're hot and finds you attractive. Very few people are desperate enough to date someone they don't find ridiculously attractive.
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>>18066621

Guy here

I wouldn't like it if a girl trie to blow me early on in dating. I'd prefer to wait a few months before that.

Not saying her bf is like that, but just to keep in mind that not all guys are addicted to sex
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>>18066633
A few MONTHS before getting to oral sex?
You're definitely a rarity.
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>>18066633
Another guy here, you sound like a faggot.
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>>18066559
>It's good enough to have sex if the girl is attracted to you
So is it just at the cut off of "good enough"?
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>>18066635

oral sex is sex.. I'd rather know that I actually like the girl before getting lewd.

>>18066636

I'm not gay
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>>18066643
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcja4WFFzDw
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>>18066553
What size is truly a big dick?
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>>18066651
Depends on her vagina.
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>>18066646

lol that dude is funny
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>>18066621
think I'm going to take it slow i ruined my last chance at a relationship by having sex to early. afterwards he saw me as a fwb and stopped asking to go out and only wanted to come over....
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>>18066599
He has no ulterior motive except wanting to be with you in a relationship.
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>>18066664
lol you're mistaken if you think that guy would have treated you differently if you hadn't let him fuck you early, it would be the same thing, only it would've wasted a larger amount of your time.
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>>18066436
wtf die scum
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Girls

How big of a turn off would it be if you started dating a 26 year old guy, he's really nice to you and you get a lot great, but you find out he has very very little sexual experience, and no dating experience?
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>>18066753
If I already liked him, not much.
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>>18066762

So, if he was werid/uncomfortable about holding hands, PDA, kissing, and gifts and shit you wouldn't care?

I literally know nothing about dating
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>>18066767
No. It is not a major, unchangeable flaw and if I already like everything else about someone I wouldn't give up on the relationship for something that can be changed so easily. It's nothing that cannot be learnt or talked about. As long as he was open and communicative, I wouldn't mind.
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>>18066772

That's really surprising to hear, but I guess that's a good thing
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>>18066767
Stop being so neurotic and focus on the girl beside you.
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>>18066436
No, because he hasnt done anything wrong

You just have a crush on him so it hurts that he wants someone that isnt you, especially family, but hes not obligated to like you over your sister

And its a common thing that if you know the family of the person youre into, you'll try to get to know them through that family
It just so happened hes doing this with a family member that actually likes him, its all just bad luck essentially
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>>18066779
How is that surprising? I don't think you have no understanding of how dating works, or you're physically unable to hold hands.
After a while you'd get used to it, and it's whatever.
I've overlooked worse things than inexperience when I liked someone.
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>>18066466
>1 year

No, she didnt give enough of a fuck to keep the relationship from pittering out

>>18066532
7 inches isnt average.

Link to a p
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>>18066553
But everything these guys are saying is true, except the one ass who says it doesnt matter if you cum.

t. female
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>>18066798
>7 inches isnt average.
It isn't?
>Link to a p
Link to where? A pic?
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>>18066797

It's surprising to me because from observing other people relationships, girls seems to just expect a lot of things, or hint at things a lot. Which, I'd understand none of that. A girl could try to drop hints about something, but I'd probably never get it.
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Opening apology for shoehorning this question in here, but there's enough threads everywhere.
How do I know when I've crossed the line from logically and legitimately being uninterested in a woman to being irrational and scared of getting hurt/leaving comfort zone/taking a chance?
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>>18066801
well actually 5 - 7 is the common range. Idk I thought most guys are either 6-7 or 5-6, the distribution has two peaks
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So I have had sex with this girl a couple of times after clubbing recently. She is 23, and I'm 20. Just wondering what girls think about younger guys, especially dating and having a relationship.
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>>18066842

How come you didn't date her before having sex?
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>>18066804
Which is why communication is a good thing.
If you're 26 I guess you've been an adult long enough to understand how to communicate to people. You can easily ask people if there's something you don't understand.
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>>18066801
A pic yea, I had auto-post on.

7 inches is 2 inches above the average. Stop watching porn.
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>>18066855

I guess that makes sense. I just feel pretty intimidated about the whole thing Tbh. I don't really know what I want or what I should do. I'm not interested in hook ups/FwB, but I also don't want a serious relationship because I really don't want to ever get married. So, I don't see a point of even going down that road
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>>18066859
I'll get back to posting a pic soon-ish
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>>18066864
Then don't date, if you don't want to date. You're not obligated to get a relationship.
Anyway, a serious relationship doesn't need to turn in marriage - my parents have been together for 35 years and they aren't married, I am not planning to marry either but I am still in a very long term relationship.
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>>18066794
Yes it is unfortunate. I am sexually attracted to both of them, but the younger sister is the one I would like to date, I met her once in a summer few years ago, she was underage back then. It's probably a bad idea to talk to the girl in my class in the first place I guess. But I did. Now how should I bring up her sister? other options would include stalking her.
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>>18066871
>>18066859
I just feel pretty weird about posting my cock online to complete strangers
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>>18066871
>>18066859
>60/5/17
please tell me this isn't an elaborate samefag kek
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>>18066800
I think that's just for humorous effect.
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>>18066874

I guess. It's just sometimes I feel pretty lonley. I'm used to it, but I guess the media and shit is getting to my head. I wish sometimes I had a cute girl who'd like to spend time with me. I had one as a friend before. She was cute and we hung out a lot, we could talk about everything. But then she got a boyfriend and stopped talking to me after that.

About the serious relationship thing. I never ever want kids. So, I think the best thing I can do to prevent that is to not get serious.
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>>18066888
There are plenty of people who never want kids, or never want to get married. You can still be serious about the relationship and your feelings for each other.
It seems to me that you keep finding excuses to not form a relationship because you're scared.
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>>18066848
Moved to this city 2 months ago. I've always assumed women are interested in men their age or older, so I was quite surprised the first time we had sex.
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>>18066892

I feel like those people are rare. Infact it seems at my age, it even seems a large portion of girls my age are single moms.

>it seems to me you keep finding excuses because you're scared.

Well, I did say I'm intimidated
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>>18066900
Of course they are rare, but in general finding people who are highly compatible with you isn't easy.
There aren't a trillion people who are as good for me as my boyfriend, which is why my boyfriend is my boyfriend. Of course you might not find a girl who is exactly the person you want easily, but it isn't meant to be easy.

You're intimidated for no reason. Put yourself out there and date, worst thing that can possibly happen is that you get a little experience and it doesn't go any further. Just try.
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>>18066905

>You're intimidated for no reason. Put yourself out there and date

That's what makes this harder. For me to meet girls, I'd have to go way out of my way. I'm not around girls in my daily work/study life. I'd have to take a Friday night off of work, and go to a bar or something, which I don't even like bars.
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>>18066884
I dont get it

>>18066883
Well this is a blue board, you cant post it, link it instead
Also theres thousands of other penis and if youre not showing off your face its pretty meaningless. We can only guess at how normal your dick is right now.

Honestly you should just go post your cock on /b/ or /soc/ and see what people say
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>>18066914
If you don't like bars you can join a club, volunteer, start running with a running group, do literally any team sport, or even tennis if you're into that sort of shit, go to any sort of event, set an online dating profile, go to a church, go to a convention of something you're interested in, ask your friends to introduce you to some girls, or literally just ask people out at the grocery store.
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>>18066878
>I met her once in a summer few years ago, she was underage back then
eww lol did you want to date her since then?
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>>18066921

Obviously I don't have experience with this. But from what I've read on here the past few months some of this is contradicting advice. Like, online dating is garbage (This I have tried), and women out and about at the grocery store arent there to get hit on, they are there for chores. Not to mention that the only attractive girls I've ever seen at the grocery store were obviously married and had kids.

I'm not trying to be so negative. But the thing with your suggestion is im a introvert. So I honestly wouldn't enjoy those things.
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Do men avoid wearing sweatpants in front of certain women because of potential boners?
Are boners really visible in sweatpants?

I have a guy friend I'm close to who only wears his sweats with his guy friends and only jeans with me, am I just over analyzing?
Then again I can't tell if there is one it's difficult, also if it helps I'm talking mid 20s not early teens age wise.
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>>18066942

Why do you focus so much on your friend's pants and look for boners?
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>>18066942
Jeans look better than sweatpants, that's why he's wearing them.
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>>18066942
that's a big cock
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>>18066942
idk about him but jeans boner is also very visible. Maybe he wants to look more like an adult near you
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Do you girls find it more attractive/romantic when a guy is a NEET? Or when he has his life together?

Like do you find it more romantic?
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>>18066702
good point desu

its been about 2 years and he's exactly the same way he is now we are in college so not a big deal i guess
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>>18066954
That's an average cock that's erect.

Also, no.
People wear what's comfortable to them. What is comfortable to them depends on their mentality. Do they want physical comfort, or social comfort.

I mean, shit, sweat pants are just comfy yo.
Everybody would wear that shit if they weren't judged.
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>>18066957

Use common sense
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>>18066967
Well common sense tells me life together but I haven't seen much evidence of it yet...
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>>18066931
>implying theres a massive difference between 17 and 18
>>18066942
I wear jeans when I want to look good
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why are girls attracted to autistic retards?
im in a class with about 25 chicks and 10 dudes
literally the guy that all the chicks are attracted to talk to is an autistic spurg that scrolls this fucking site
this cant be a coincidence if 20 chicks want to talk to this 1 guy
hes kinda funny i guess hes my friend but a real fucking asshole
like most of the people on this fucking site
what g i v e s.
and before anyone asks yes im over 18
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>>18067005
Maybe it's because he's not a resentful retard like you.
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>>18067005
>inb4 he's you
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My ex is bothering me... Not sure if I need any advice really, I just want to write it out.

She met some guy recently, I've met girls since our break-up aswell wich is a long time ago now and I shouldn't really be bothered by her but parts of me still am, Idk why but she has the power to bother me still, no matter if I'm with someone else and that it's been 3 years since we broke up.

I want her outof my head and move on with my life!
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>>18067021
*dreaming
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Why is sex with my favorite prostitute so hot?
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>>18067097
>because you feel like you can solely focus on what you want and are not under any pressure to perform, please her or whatever
>because you get off on the power dynamic of you being the paying customer and whatever she feels/wants not being relevant
>because she's especially hot and/or good at sex and that's why she's your favorite

Any of these perhaps?
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>>18066957
I'm gonna be pedantic for a sec here. The word 'romantic' has the connotation that you've done something for the woman. "He got me flowers. So romantic!" I wouldn't describe a guy's life situation as 'romantic'. I wouldn't call someone hot 'romantic'.
'Attractive' is closer to what you're looking for, I guess. 'Attractive' also has a wider range of connotations. You can say "He is attractive" to mean that he is handsome, that I am attracted to having sex with him, attracted sexually. You could also say "The price was an attractive deal" to mean that you are pleased with the low cost of something, that you are attracted to buying it.

Your question goes more towards the second connotation. I don't get wet when a guy tells me he has a job, and I'm not turned off if a guy is a NEET. But I am more inclined to date someone who has a job/education, because that lines up with my life goals. I want to settle down, establish a home, get some pets, and move forward with my life partner. Those things require money. They require emotional stability.

I don't know why I'm bothering so much with answering this question.
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>>18066888
>>18066900
I find that more and more people are choosing to be childfree.
>a large portion of girls my age are single moms.
Where do you live? Are they college students, career women, baristas? I don't see this at all.
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>>18067160
Not trying to correct you necessarily because English isn't my first language, but doesn't romantic also mean, having romantic appeal? And not romantic appeal in the narrow courting sense but in the sense of speaking to the imagination. As far as I know someone who's romantic gives flowers, but someone who's a romantic is susceptible to romanticizing things and/or just seeing their sentimental, nostalgic, whatever appeal.

Basically I read it was "do women romanticize dating a NEET" like how dating an outlaw or starving artist is romanticized culturally.
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>>18066942
Sweatpants look lazy, jeans look good.

More specifically, it's socially acceptable for a guy to wear jeans, but borders on fedora-tier to wear sweatpants casually (you can wear them if working out/playing sports).

He most likely wears sweats around guys because, based on my experiences anyway, women are more likely to judge you based on clothing choices than men. Men don't give a fuck.

Women will see sweatpants and before they've even looked at your face, they'll assume you've got a ponytail, neckbeard and pitstains all while saying "Worst [thing] ever..."
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>>18067179
No disclaimer needed, I love these kind of discussions!
You're right to make the distinction between "he is romantic" and "he is a romantic", adjective versus noun. The former is more sexualized, the latter is more sentimental. By saying "Do you find it more romantic when a guy is a NEET", we're talking about 'romantic' as an adjective.
'Romanticize' is making this into a verb. Considering that, it does sound like that is what OP was trying to use, yeah. It has a bit of a negative connotation too, as you probably realize by the obvious fall backs to dating outlaws and starving artists.
I wouldn't say that it would be a synonym to go between "Dating a NEET is romantic" versus "I romanticize dating a NEET." They mean different things. You could make the assumption that someone meant the other, but that assumption would have to go along with assuming that they made a mistake.
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Girls

Let's say that a straight guy wasn't getting any pussy so he decided to do gay shit such as fucking a guy, sucking cocks, and taking it up the ass

Would you think of him as less of a man or a loser?
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>>18066957
Kek no. I don't wanna take care of someone. If I did I'd have a baby.
I want an adult who can take care of themselves minimum. NEETs cannot do that. By nature they are financially dependent on someone else, and is super unattractive. Nothing romantic about that really.

But I don't believe in absolutes. There will be some woman out there that has some sort of "I'm gonna fix him" type attitude that won't mind being your mommy.
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>>18067240

Why did you turn gay, anon?

I'm a straight male. I haven't touched a girl in 6 years, but that didn't make me want to suck some dudes cock.
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guy here

what do women think of 25+ y/o men who are still single? I'm self-sufficient, live with roommates, play vidya, but still a normal good-looking guy.
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>>18066842
I've never really been attracted to younger dudes personally. I operate on this dom/sub type mentality, where I want my guy to be my superior in every way. I want him to be older than me usually, even if just by a year, because in my mind that makes him better than me in some ways.

Hook ups though, don't really matter. If it's a ons it really doesn't matter who the fuck you are or what you're like, outside of "He's not a serial rapist/killer". Because you'll be out of my life in about 3 hours or so, and I'll never see or think about you again. To have a hook up, you essentially only need physical attraction and the bare minimum of psychological attraction. All other preferences really get thrown out the window so long as you're hot and can rub my clit.
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>>18066753
I liked him enough to date him in the first place, it's not like I'm gonna dump him over that.

But I personally only have so much patience. I don't want to hold your hand and correct every little thing. Even if you don't have experience, you have to fake it a little bit. Use your common sense, research yourself, learn fast.
You don't have to be perfect, but you can't just flounder and expect me to lead everything either.
But that's just my personal taste
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>>18067246
It could be a weird way of expressing heterosexuality, like I'm the girl who's getting dicked instead of it being the other way around

As for fucking guys, it would be a substitute to fucking girls
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>>18067260

Can you give me examples on what I'm suppose to know/do?
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>>18067264

>As for fucking guys, it would be a substitute to fucking girls

no, it's gay.
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>>18067249

I have plenty of 25+ guy friends who are single, it's nothing unusual. Most are still working on studies or careers or whatever, so it's no wonder if a relationship isn't a priority.
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>>18067249
Idk, it's still ok but starting to get into a grey area, if you actually want a partner in life.
You're still relatively fresh out of college, if you got a degree, so it's reasonable to think that a 25 year old is only just now starting to become stable enough in his career/personal life to consider adding other people into the mix.
But I would say much older and it starts to become strange, but it all depends on the reason. Is he still single, but looking? Is he single because he's incredibly autistic? Is he single because he's too wrapped up in casual flings? Or is he just single because he hasn't found the right one yet?

If you have no interest in ever being "tied down" like that, then that's fine too. It's basically only weird when you desperately want that kind of relationship, but for whatever reason you gave up or cannot get anything because you're too fucked up.
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>>18067097
You're getting added to the OP next time I make the thread
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>>18067240
Yes
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>>18067273
This
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>>18067273

>If you have no interest in ever being "tied down" like that, then that's fine too. It's basically only weird when you desperately want that kind of relationship, but for whatever reason you gave up or cannot get anything because you're too fucked up.

So it's ok if I'm 30 and single by choice? Sometimes I think it could be nice to have a girl to spend time with. But ultimately, I really can't see myself being tied down with a family. I have no desire for a wife and kids. sex isn't a big deal to me either, I don't really care about it.
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>>18067265
Luckily, most of it is just instinct and common sense. You should be able to just fall into that role naturally to a certain extent. I'm not really sure what I can muster up as an example, since it is just so natural. Only thing I can really think of is just confidence shit. Have the balls to set up a date every now and then, don't expect her to always be contacting you. Behave in public, don't do inappropriate things unless you know she's into it (like making out, grabbing ass, that kind of stuff). Don't freak out over every thing she does, don't get snoopy, a relationship is built on trust. If you can't trust her, you shouldn't be dating her. Know how to resolve issues through mature conversation.
All of this is vice versa too, if she's not doing the same then that's a red flag buddy.

I suppose, since almost EVERYTHING is subjective, no 2 women think exactly alike, the only thing you should know/be good at is flexibility and communication. Learn about her as a person, what she likes, what she dislikes, and use that information wisely. And also remember there are many forms of communication, verbal ain't the only one. Become fluent in multiple forms of communication.
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>>18067160
>>18067244
ok what if he's somewhere between a NEET and having "his life together"

say, PhD student, kinda esoteric research work (the pay is mostly meh to ok , depends on funding of projects), also, not a real job, but not exactly studying any course either (passed that stage, only research now). Will be away a few times a year when there're conferences (places like Vegas,Snowbird, Alps) but other than that, shut in, and unclear prospect about what happens after getting the degree.
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>>18067286
Yup, 100%.
There will always be the societal pressures though. Yes, some will think there's something wrong with you to want that life, but if you genuinely do not want it, fuck those people who cares? It's your life, live it the way you want.

I do however just see this commonly used as an excuse for the insecure dudes to use, even though they genuinely do want companionship. They just pretend they don't to save their bruised egos. That's when it gets a little sad and pathetic, because everyone can see straight through it.

If you are genuine though, it's totally fine. Live your life for you man. I have a cousin in her 30s who's never been married and she's a fucking millionaire living a pretty sweet life if you ask me, even though I still personally want to get married some day. Even people with differing choices in lifestyle can appreciate yours too.
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>>18067298
Idk, the lack of ambition is usually a killer. And if you aint bringing in enough income for one adult to live off of, then again, I don't want to take care of you.
If you're unclear about your prospects, then what are you doing about it? Nobody's guaranteed a job after college, we're all in that limbo land, whats your back up plan, what are you doing to make yourself the best candidate possible? Do you actually WANT a job, because if you don't actually want one, you're not going to get one. You'll halfheartedly apply for jobs, but never actually put in the effort to get one. That's been my experience.

I don't mind introverts who only have a small group of people they talk with, even if it's just online game buddies, but I do have issue with dudes who won't earn their keep.
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>>18067300

>There will always be the societal pressures though.

This is something that bothers me a lot. My friends are always telling me to meet girls, and I've had co-workers say that to. I don't want to, but what makes this difficult is I'll think about everything at the end of the day. People keep telling me what I'm suppose to do, which makes me think "am I doing something wrong? Because everyone thinks I am". It makes me depressed.

I really have no desire to get married or have kids. But it's really grinds my gears how much people tell me otherwise
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>>18067320
I feel ya, while I do want to get married some day, I have zero desire to at the very least physically have kids. I MIGHT be talked into adoption or surrogacy, but even that's gonna need some real convincing.

I get the "You'll change your mind" speech about 300 times a year by my parents. It sucks, and I know my mom's just disappointed because she's got 2 kids, ones a lesbian who is frankly terrified of children, and then there's me the straight kid with the most potential, outside the fact that I want nothing to do with it. Yeah, I hate to disappoint her, but I think of it this way.

If I had a kid I didn't want just to make my mom happy, that's gonna be a really fucking shitty thing to do to a child. Knowing your mom doesn't want you, that she thinks of you as a burden, and she only did it because she felt obligated to. That's no life to live for a kid, I think I'm doing whats right for a hypothetical child, by NOT having children.

Same can be applied in your case regarding kids, but also in the terms of marriage. If you don't love her, you're just gonna make her miserable. She'll feel unwanted, it'll screw with her head, and it will very likely just end in a sad divorce anyway. You're doing women a favor by not giving into the pressures. You're doing the right thing.

As for friends and co workers, I say find better friends. Explain to them that isn't the life you wanna live, and you'd appreciate if they stopped pressuring you. If they can't respect that, then fuck them.
I have a couple friends who make comments like "You're not gonna have kids? Good, then that means I can have 3-4 without feeling guilty for over populating lol"
Find friends like that.
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>>18067309
well money isn't an issue for me, I have no car, no house, living in college dorm (upside is hooking up with undergrad girls and pretty much all utility and rental fees are paid for by my program), I even tried dating one of them but her friends and my friends are too different so that didnt work out
Prospect is indeed an issue. I don't want to optimize stochastic models for big companies, also not sure about staying in academia/teaching. Recently realized I'm totally mediocre in what I do (lol). My big ego doesn't help, so I'm kinda lost.
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>>18067240
If he insists hes 100% straight and was fucking men out of pure desperation, yes, that's fucking hysterically unattractive. Sex is not that big a damn deal just jerk off.

But I'd most likely just think he's a closeted bisexual at best and is so in denial about it he's pretending him wanting to fuck dudes was out of some extreme desperation. And I'd also find that hysterically unattractive.
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>>18066426
this>>18066429

If you cannot trust someone you love to not be batshit insane and cry a serious crime just for doing something to piss her off, then you cannot trust someone enough to fuck them.

Your best bet is to follow the other dudes advice.
>don't fuck around, don't have sex with drunk/high people ever, date mentally stable people, don't hurt those you have sex with, etc
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>>18067358
>Money isn't an issue
>I have no house and no car
If money wasn't an issue, you'd have those things dude.
But you are still in college therefore it's understandable. We're talking post college though. If you cannot afford to support yourself at minimum, you're failing at life man.

> I don't want to optimize stochastic models for big companies, also not sure about staying in academia/teaching
We all do things we don't want to do to make money mate.
I don't want to get spit on and dehumanized by some bitch 3 times my age with a "I want to speak to a manager" haircut for less than 7 bucks an hour at my crappy retail job. But I have to pay my rent somehow, so I put up with it even though I know damn well, 7 bucks is not worth being dehumanized like that. The fear of being homeless without it, is however worth the job.

If you get offered a crappy job you don't want to do, you take it anyway and tough it out to put food on the table while looking for a better one. When you get hired by the better one, then you can drop the shit job.
Nobody really gets their dream job straight out of college, you have to work up for it dude. Sucks, but that's life.
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>>18067350

>As for friends and co workers, I say find better friends

I can't, I mean. The friends I have, I've had since high school. They keep saying this shit because they think I live a lonley lifestyle. I'm alone at home, when I do activities, I always travel alone. Which, yeah sometimes I am lonely. But I know for sure marriage and kids isn't the answer. I couldn't imagine what living with another person would be like, especially sharing my bed... I can't imagine that.
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>>18067378
Sure you can. I dropped almost all the friends I had after high school because our personalities no longer meshed. They became druggies who lived in their mom's basements, and I decided I had nothing in common with that.
People change, you meet new people all the time.
You think most people in their 40's+ are still close friends with the people they were friends with in high school? Fuck no. My parents have 2 friends that stuck with them this whole time, but they live in different states now so they don't even really see each other much. Just call every 4 years or so to set up a trip to catch up.

If your friends are shit to you, and don't respect your wishes, you can find new friends.
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>>18067383

I've been friends with these people for 15 years. They are good friends, just, when it comes to the being single thing. They always pressure me.

One of my friends told me "I literally can't understand why you wouldn't want this. I can't comprehend why you wouldn't want to share your life with a woman"
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>>18067107
Option d) All of the above.

>>18067275
No! Sorry. I'll stop, I promise.
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>>18067389
Well, just do your best to explain yourself. Tell them you cannot comprehend why they would, you have different desires out of life and different perspectives.
Tell them it is seriously straining your friendship, they are making you seriously upset and depressed about something as simple as a difference in opinions, and you would really like if they could just avoid that topic with you. Agree to disagree and move on.

If they can't do that much for you, the they aren't good friends.

Hell, my best friend knows how bitter and depressed I am about being single. She knows how I got dropped by a lot of friends because they would rather hang with their SO's. She's been in a loving relationship for almost 10 years now. She never talks about her boyfriend with me, she never talks about love or romance, she always makes sure to make time for me when appropriate to show she's not dumping me for her bf, when I hang out at their place, they don't even so much as hug while I'm there, all because she knows it makes me sad an uncomfortable. And you know what, I'll even openly admit she does not even have to do ANY of that. But that's why she's such a good friend to me, she genuinely cares enough about me that she would go that far out of her way to make me feel comfortable.

If your friends won't even take the effort to just plain agree to disagree after you tell them their constant jabs at your being single, and pushing you to do things you don't want to do, then I'm sorry there is no way I can look at this and think these people are good friends to you. They cannot even offer you basic human respect.
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>>18067376
oh well "post college" I'd prefer to find a sanctuary where I can do what I like and get paid for it :))

if it comes to matter of survival I don't think I'd have a problem, at worst I'd stay away from finance and probably spend 4 hours a day in an office at Amazon or Netflix proving convergence of some ranking algorithms. But a house and a car sound too expensive, how does one even get a house in places like SF, are Seattle or NYC cheaper?
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Women:
Would you invite a guy, that you know has a crush on you, to spend the night for a few days at your place?
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>>18067422
Only if I was in a long term relationship.
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>>18067428
lol what lucky bf you have
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Due to my profession I only meet club/party whores who are not exactly fun to talk to, fun to fuck nor particularly romantically interesting. Where do I find good gf material?
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Both genders.
Whats your wildest fantasy? Something you'd never share with people IRL?
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>>18067459
I want to have a loving wife and two maids, one an athletic bodied black girl and the other the best trap in the world that would also stay in a chastity lock 24/7. Then me and my wife would use them as we saw fit.
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>>18067416
Yeah, real world ain't like that dude. Everyone would love to get their dream job straight out of college, but as I said, you have to work up to that. Most do not get it off the bat, unless they already had their sights set low.
Like my sister graduated with an animation degree. You think she got a job animating the next big Disney film right out of school? No, she's making 3D maps of phone lines for a telecommunication company. She's not even animating anything lol.

But I digress, so long as you make enough to support yourself, doesn't matter what you're doing. If you can somehow manage to support yourself on minimum wage that's fine (but nearly nobody can actually).
>how does one even get a house in places like SF, are Seattle or NYC cheaper?
There's a reason why people typically retire to places like that.
But the answer is loans, or get a really high paying job. Nobody except those with rich as fuck parents buys their first house or (new)car without taking out a loan. Now if you're gonna live in a large city like New York, typically it's more socially accepted to rent forever. But, that is much more money in the long run of life that could have gone elsewhere. But if living in NYC is worth the "wasted" money, then it wasn't really wasted now was it?

Most people though will flock to cheaper suburbs to start their careers in. But they also do not often get much choice in where they end up, they follow the job, the job doesn't follow them. I have a friend who's moved twice last year, from Missouri to Oklahoma to now Georgia, because her fiance's job moved him twice. She followed him, because he was more important to her than her own job (which paid less than his anyway and was basically just hourly anyway)
Point being, you will often move to places you never thought you'd go or want to be in just out of necessity. If you get to choose though, choose the cheapest option first. You can always retire to some place grander
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Apologies if you guys get this question a million times a day.

How do I initiate a chat with a Tinder match? Her profile is empty aside from pics.
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>>18067422
Depends on the circumstance. Is he a really good friend, who I know (assuming I do not like him back) will respect my feelings and not make a pass at me, and just really needed a place to crash, yeah.
If I were in a relationship, idk. I'd probably ask my bf to stay the night with us to thoroughly cock block, or just say no/give him recommendations for cheap hotels in the area. If he was a friend who is wanting to stay with me because he's visiting me specifically, I'd probably even offer to split the hotel bill with him. But I wouldn't even want to put that kind of strain on my relationship.

Otherwise, if I were single I probably wouldn't unless I actually wanted to bang him.
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>>18067437
Friends of friends is the best place to start.

Otherwise, any mutual interest group. Join a club, talk to people at concerts you go to, anything that gives you a chance to know people with mutual interests.
Online dating as last resort.


Also, you can try not being so quick to judge people. I totally dismissed a guy as a douchebag frat dude because he looked the part, turned out to be pretty rad and I'm glad I got to know him.
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>>18067459
I'm male but I want to be the cute anime girl in one of those gang rape hentai videos.
It's spilled over to wanting to be fucked by a much larger guy, but I'm 6'1 and any interest in cocks fades pretty quickly once I masturbate.

What's even more strange is that I don't have any other really strange fetishes and femdom turns me off. The next strangest fetish I have is either school uniform or rape.
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>>18067459
>I wake up to the same man every morning and he tells me he loves me every day.

But seriously,
idk I'm probably pretty tame, but I'm so shy I still would have a hard time telling anyone. I wanna be tied up and treated like a living fuck doll.
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>>18067240
yea i wouldn't out right admit it but I'm honestly a huge biphobe bi sexuals annoy the fuck out of me
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>>18067471
>Hi how are you?

If/when she responds with the ususal
>Good u?
>*How you're feeling*. So, what do you do for fun?

It sounds awkward and forced, but that's because you're using online dating and that's just kind of the side effect of it. You are having to force something because you're meeting in unnatural ways.
Therefore, everyone fucking understands it's hard making conversation through online dating so you don't have to worry about it sounding awkward and forced. It's just accepted, you power through and keep going anyway.


Also, if you can gather any piece of info from those pics, no matter how small, utilize that.
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>>18067498
>I wanna be tied up and treated like a living fuck doll.
By the same man who says he loves you every day? That's really nice.
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>>18067490
>talk to people at concerts you go to

Well that happens to be the fucking problem. I find the people who go to the concerts I do go to due to my profession awfully corny "hurp durp let's get fucked up lmaooooo stacey is sooo druunk" types.

>Also, you can try not being so quick to judge people

Don't get me wrong, I've associated with others in this profession and they're pretty cool people, but honestly the public that go to these events as we do as professional are pretty trash. There was a time before my view of them hadn't been tainted, but now it is and I know why some people tell others here to avoid girls who go to clubs.
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>>18067490
>Join a club
I never understood this advice. My hobbies are 99% male oriented. If there ever will be a girl in my downhill biking club, she isn't there to get hit on and I'm pretty sure I'm not top of the list if someone had to pick from the club's members who to date.
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>>18067459
>Tfw you realize you have no sex drive


Shit.

I guess heaven would be owning one of those really oversized bean bag chairs, and just cuddling and playing through an rpg with my girlfriend.

I kind of miss her sex drive, though. She was real into it when we first got together, but it just stopped at a certain point. Tons of issues, physical and mental. Pretty much became a few different people over the years we've been dating. Kind of sad. I guess even if she was into it, she's got so many physical injuries now since the accident that pretty much anything outside of basic positions is too difficult.

I'm sad now.
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>>18067468
minimum wage jobs like manual labor? aren't there a lot of foreign competitions (sorry if this is ignorant I have literally never cared about getting a job before)
Also, good advice about following the job. In the end I think staying near universities is best for me, the best ones in my field are in suburban areas anyway. Big tech companies are usually in places like SF Bay, Silicon Valley or Seattle, probably need to rent a room with people, more complications. 10 years later It would be like living in a dorm at 35 lol. So that issue got sorted out too, I will work in some university after my PhD.
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For snapchat crazy girls:

How much would you expect me to snap you? I've been on 2 dates with this girl and I almost feel obligated to snapchat her every day because she uses it so much, but I rarely do other than to talk to her. (have had my account for like 2 years, 5k score. She has 700k). It feels really awkward to hold a conversation over snapchat for me, I'd almost rather not talk to her for a few days and then catch up on everything on the next date instead. Anyone got any tips on this issue?
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>>18067517
kek preferably.
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>>18067519
What the fuck are you, a bartender or something?

Well anyway, if you keep your eye open and meet people with similar interests, you're bound to find someone who isn't a drunkard.
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How do I tell my gf who hates feeling losing control that I want to tie her up and ravage her sexy body?
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>>18066599
>This is the second date we went on
>This is the second date
>is

Why the fuck are you wasting time on 4chan when you're on a date?
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>>18067547
A man who truly loves will do anything to make you have the best orgasms. Godspeed.
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>>18067554
Just tell her, it's your gf, you can't talk about sex with your gf?
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>>18067527
I feel ya, I have the same problem but in reverse. My main hobby is sewing. Not exactly gonna be buried in sausage looking for people there.
Maybe go out and try some new shit too. Things that might be more female oriented, or at least more neutral. Might find something you like.
As for the hit on thing, here's the actual magic part about relationships, is they're best if they grow from friendships. You shouldn't realllly be going into a club and saying "I'm gonna find my future wife here" you should be saying "I'm gonna make some new friends. Some might even be women".
As I said originally, the BEST way to find a date is friends of friends, so even if you make some new male friends, or even female friends you have no interest in, they can open you up to a whole new set of people to look into. Since they're mutual friends, typically people hang around similar minded people, which means their friends will likely have something in common with you too in some way.
Just gotta talk to as many people as you can, make as many friends as you can. The wider your social circle, the better your odds.
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>>18067554
Do all that, lock with a padlock, hang the key around her neck

I was surprised it worked first time, thought she would still object since with her hands tied she can't actually use the key, but having it hanging around her neck made her feel like she was in control still.

Also when well managed you can over time turn this into not needing that step
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>>18067534
"Minimum wage" (would probably be better to referr to them as hourly jobs, since some pay slightly above miniumum but is still not a ton of money) can be a varitey of things. Manual labor yes, customer service too. I suppose it's technically manual labor, but my friend works as a janitorial staff/cooking crew at a nursing home. She cleans the bathrooms yes but honestly a good chunk of her job is also just keeping the old folk company. She was one of those people who decided college wasn't for her and sought out other options.
She's also living a pretty successful life. By 22 she moved out with her boyfriend, who is also someone who never went to college, and they got a loan and bought a house. Between the two, they manage their bills just fine. They do not live in a great house, it's pretty fucking small (1br1ba, LK), but plenty big enough for the 2 of them. Granted, he's working UPS I believe, which pays a little better than most but also has a lot of very strict rules and regulations.

Idk what the fuck you mean about foreign labor, if you mean your friendly illegal mexican gardener? The shit you see in the movies about mexicans hanging around a home depot jumping into dudes pick up trucks is not very accurate.
Your average retail/fast food job is basically open to everyone. You're competing more with every other high schooler and college drop out though, and I've found that if you do not have any experience whatsoever, you better have someone who works there to vouch for you because your app will go straight in the trash though.

Anyway, yes, get a good paying job after school and you'll likely be fine.
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>>18067544
Like any other conversation, respond if talked to. If she is just sending you a "look at this pic!" type snap, you don't have to respond to that. If it's something that was obviously sent to many people, (usually, this is snaps that also get put in the story) you don't have to respond to that.

If she's sent you something personal and is asking you something, respond to that.
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>>18067566
>A man who truly loves me
Ah, if only such a thing were possible
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>>18067459
My biggest sexual fantasy is to have completely verbal control over a girl, no spanking or physical dominance, just words, everything I say she'll listen and do what I tell accordingly like a well trained dog. Bonus if she's a tattooed feminist.

>>18067624
Open your eyes and you shall find it, femanon.
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>>18067571
>Maybe go out and try some new shit too. Things that might be more female oriented, or at least more neutral. Might find something you like.

Eh I do downhill biking because a) it makes me feel free and b) it helps with my anxiety issues because of a). I don't think there's a lot of hobbies that have any remote possibility to attract a female in my interests.

Also the club only rarely organises something that has nothing to do with downhill biking. We go inna woods for a weekend, race downhill and come back to civilization. We do have annual get-togethers with alcohol added on a set date, but the only women who ever visit it are the girlfriends of the club members so there goes the friends' friends part. Same applies to my life-long friends since I pretty much know all of their friends too, who got together with each other or with my life-long friends. That's why I said I'm hardly the first pick. So painfully middle-of-the-pack I feel forgotten sometimes.

Sorry that I'm shooting all the possibilities and advice down, but I don't really see joining a club as a feasible way to attract a partner. I joined a club because I wanted to have someone to help me into a hospital if I break a leg in the middle of nowhere.
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>>18067621
Yeah that part I've got down to a fucking science, the part that confounds me is whether or not I should "initiate". For instance, whoever goes to bed or wakes up first sends good morning /good night. It feels really awkward to do this if we have basically no conversation in between. I'm also trying to figure out if she expects me to start the conversation every time, was a little bit like that on our dates, she seems pretty submissive in general, hard to make out what she wants some times without directly asking
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>>18067629
Theyve been glued open for a long time now lol.
I've even resorted to tinder as a last ditch effort.
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>>18067608
>You're competing more with every other high schooler and college drop out though, and I've found that if you do not have any experience whatsoever, you better have someone who works there to vouch for you because your app will go straight in the trash though

kek I'm trying to imagine a universe where I actually know someone who works these jobs, let alone having experience in them. Perhaps I'd be a super ripped guy with a Slavic waifu gf
Ah. That's the life.
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If a woman is open to the idea of having sex with you while she has a boyfriend, how easy is it to ruin that feeling because you weren't aware at the time?

She had to leave the day after since she was being transferred because of her job, but she told me she'd be back next year after I asked. We never actually talked about doing it directly but there was a lot of inferring.
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>>18067672
Why do you think it's difficult for you? Be honest.
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>>18067641
To me, thats way too intimate for your relationship. Thats couple stuff right there, the good morning/night stuff at least.

The rule on initiating conversations to me, is first of all remembering it takes 2 to tango. If you're ALWAYS having to initiate, she's not that into you, no matter how submissive. She has to put in some effort too.
Likewise, if she's ALWAYS having to initiate, she's also probably going to assume you're not interested. Probably moreso if she is the submissive type.
I'm rather sub too myself and I don't have the greatest self esteem, so my though process is usually revolved around "I want to talk to him, but I also don't want to bother him." If he never contacts, I assume I'm just bugging him whenever I do.

Usually, I just kind of mentally note, who was the last person to initiate?
>Was it me?
Ok, balls in his court now, he should initiate a conversation with me now if he's really interested in me.
>Was it him?
Ok, balls in my court. I should initiate something with him now.

Now, as you get more comfortable with one another and get to know each other, you dont have to follow this exact turn taking shit all the time. You can initiate twice in a row, or vice versa, but if the balance is thrown too much out of whack, somethings probably up. So if you feel like you haven't initiated in a while, you probably should. and if you feel like she hasn't, then you should probably either talk about that or just wait till she does or move on.
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>>18067681
Couple things.
1.) I'm in my early 20's and the vast majority of college students are not looking for anything serious, and for good reasons I can totally understand. It's a rough time. It's just not a good age to be searching for something like that.
1.5) I live in an incredibly small town so pickings are slim to begin with.
2.) I probably have too high of standards, but I've already set it as low as I can possibly go and still be happy. I require an immediate spark of chemistry with someone, I usually know right off the bat whether or not they're someone I could possibly date. This spark has only been set off a total of 2 times in my whole life.
3.) I'm incredibly shy and autistic. I don't know how to start with people, well I do, but I just cannot physically move my feet to do it. But also goes along with 2, I rarely even meet people I feel are worth making that effort for.

Things have to progress pretty organically for me to feel comfortable. Which is why I struggle so much with the main form of dating these days, online dating.
Like, the last dude I had a slight interest in, though that spark never occured, was because I went on a short study abroad trip and he was in the same program. We were a small group of people, so we were all forced to talk to one another because we were all stuck with one another for 2 weeks. That made everything easy to get to know him.
The last dude I had that spark with, was a friend of a friend. Friend introduced me, we hit it off, I expressed interest, he was only wanting a fuck buddy. I even tried playing that angle, and he ghosted me after 2 meetings.
(cont)
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>>18066574
>wait at her school

fuck off underage normie
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>>18067718
>cont
serious?
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>>18067681
>>18067718
I generally know what the fixes are:
Problem 1, my age and small town, is just something that solves itself over time. People will settle down after college, I just have to wait for them. The small town will cease to be an issue after college to, because there's nothing binding me to it once I graduate. I can move someplace bigger.

Problem 2 is just not something that can be fixed. I've tried lowering my standards and seeing people I did not have that spark with. I just felt unhappy and uncomfortable the whole time, because I just did not like the dudes I was seeing.

3 Can probably be fixed some way or another, but again, it's something that's gonna take a shit ton of time. Idk what else to do about it. I've tried the drugs, I've tried the therapy, I just cannot will myself to approach no matter how hard I try. It's literal paralysis, brain just malfunctions.
Anyway, yeah.
>>18067726
Sorry, wanted to include I know the solutions I know of, but it didnt fit. You asked a complex question and wanted me to be honest lol
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>>18067729
>spark
lol I have high standards too but it's not as transcendental as yours, I just have the usual young attractive criteria for gf
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>>18067718
1) Not an excuse, there's people looking for relationships everywhere, just not marriage right-away. Small town sucks, I know well.

2.) You shouldn't have 'standards', you need to find a person that have the same life goals as you and is fighting for those goals. Physical attraction is important but secondary.

3) worst part imo, you need to change yourself and be another person, that's all I can say.
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Why do women tell me Im good looking when Im 5'6? Im American and white, well below average height here which is 5'9.
At first I thought they were mocking me, so I would just not react and walk away. I think they might be genuine though.
These compliments make me really uncomfortable and I usually just don't respond because I don't know how. I don't hit on girls, so these compliments are unsolicited. Im really introverted and just go about my business during the day and act polite to anyone I encounter(business polite, nothing overly friendly).
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>>18067739
Yeah, if I really knew what that spark was I could probably work my standards down lower. But I really don't know what it is. They just click into place or they don't.
Now I have my own set of more pettyish standards, like a certain look, but I nix most of those when I broke down to my lowest level of "This is just absolute mandatory to have/be"
Only physical thing that stayed was be not fat lol.
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>>18067752
Try to fuck them
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>>18067752
If a woman tells you that you look good you should try to date her (unless circumstances tell you otherwise), and not keep crying about how you're ugly.
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>>18067812
i dont consider myself good looking.
>>18067816
I don't care about my looks, Im just asking because it is getting annoying. I just focus on school and finding a good job, my looks matter very literally when it comes to application development.

Also I dont feel comfortable dating.
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>>18067747
Yeah I know, which is why I'm still trying despite it all, I'm just not holding my breath. Yeah one in every 50 or so 20 somethings will want something serious, but take away all the ones that are already in relationships, then take away all the ones that I would even have anything in common with, and then take away all the ones that would even have any interest in me, it's like finding a needle in a haystack at this point.

Well that's what my "standards" typically are. Is he going somewhere in life, does he want something serious and not just to fuck me once, do we have shit to talk about/is he interesting? And yes, is he at least attractive enough for me that I could fuck him if I wanted, because I have no shame in saying I want to have sex in a relationship and if I can't "get it up" for him it'll be a problem. But thats the smallest piece of the puzzle as is.

And I am working on myself a bit. I'm trying to work out the issues, but as I said. Shit won't happen over night. It basically took a good 13 years or so to tear my self esteem as low as it was, that kind of damage isn't going to go anywhere fast.
It is getting better though, just at a very slow pace. I lost a bunch of weight, there are some days I look in the mirror and say "Yeah, I am kind of cute I guess" which is a very drastic difference from me literally hiding all mirrors in my house and never allowing to be in any photos.

If I'm set up correctly, or if someone comes to me, I'm perfectly fine. I converse normally, I don't lose my spaghetti. I just haven't gotten around the random cold approach anxiety yet. Not that I'm not trying, but it's just not going very well.
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>>18067826
Well, I guess on 4chan I shouldn't expect a non-autistic dude.

>>18067828
Remember though, that to find a man interested in building something serious you need to put something on the table too, usually those kind of guys are looking for kids or someone who supports and cares for them on their daily life struggles.
What kind of man is attractive to you btw? Just curious.
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Gals, how to tell a girl in the most subtle way that I don't want her as a girlfriend and I want to just be friends with her?
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>>18067860
Are you already involved with her? Why don't you want to be with her?
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>>18067851
I'm not keen on kids, however I would say I can put some things on the table. When I like someone, I really do like to show it. I love doing things for my boyfriend, supporting him, etc.
And like, I'm normal outside the meeting phase. Once I'm over that hump, I get along just fine. I just have spaghetti in the grey area between acquaintanceship and friendship.

Like, physically? Idk, I'm not too picky, I like skinny dudes. Little muscle, preferably. Nice face, but not too boxy if that makes sense. I like just slightly masculine looking dudes I guess lol. I find a lot of Asians attractive.

Everything else though, (announcing my hypocrisy in advance) I just want a dominant/confident dude. Like, borderline cocky even. A man who knows what he wants and how to get it, but also tactful and can admit defeat when it's due. Good charisma, smooth talker, but kind and mature overall.
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I'm a 30yon an and slept around a lot when I was in my early 20s. I'm really not proud of it and I've started being vague about it when asked by potential love interests.

How fucked am I? If you (a girl) were gonna date someone and found out they had slept with over 70+ people what would you think?
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>>18067898
It would def worry me, but desu thats why I typically don't ask about numbers.
I just ask if you're std free.

But they ask clearly because they want to know, and I would not recommend lying because relationships are about trust.

Even still, my biggest concern would be "Am I just number 71, or is this really all in the past and he's serious about me?"
If he can prove he's serious about me, I can get around it
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>>18067898
It'd say you're impulsive and have commitment issues. Even 20 women at 30 would be too many so you've made it to the instantly dropped zone for me.
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>>18067898
thats just crazy and would make me strongly think you'd leave suddenly one day or cheat a lot.
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>>18067882
That's not hypocrisy, like most women you want a grown man. Physique and personality aren't correlate.
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>>18067867
Not involved. I mean we have a chat or hang out sometimes but I take it as we are friends. However she gave me subtle but obvious signals that she is desperate to have a bf since she never had one. That's why I don't want her. Can't elaborate now because I hate texting via phone.
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How do guys feel if the girl makes the first move/asks them out? Especially since it looks like it's frowned upon due to societal norms.

Thing is I've had a crush on someone for quite a long time, but never acted on it. Partly because I was recovering from a fresh trauma and dealing with PTSD and dissociation. And because I wasn't that confident and more like the shy shut-in.

Fast forward to today and I can confidentially say that I bloomed. I have a great fashion sense and always style myself, whenever I go out I either receive lots of stares (sometimes the creepy kind) and compliments. I'm really content with myself.
I even contacted my old crush again after all this time because he liked some stuff on Facebook. We met up once in a neutral setting but it wasn't a date, I was helping him with something. And here's the thing: I'm afraid that I'm too intimidating to him. I hate to say it because it sounds so condescending, but it looks like I'm even out of his league now? And that he's afraid of me rejecting him. At the same time, I'm also afraid that he's just not interested even though he was clearly checking me out more than once, at least that's what it felt like. From what I got from our meet, we get along well and have the same/similar sense of humour which I find super attractive.

To make things worse, I'm completely inexperienced and even scared of deep personal connections. I blame it on childhood pedophilia trauma. I just can't figure out how this whole dating and relationship stuff works because I've never been in one myself. But I really want to at least try without scaring him off...

Any advice would be appreciated, both guys and girls. We're both in our early 20s btw and enrolled in different universities.
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>>18067911
>>18067904

That's fair and that's why I'm vague about it. But I don't understand why people don't sleep around more. I worked with a girl 3 times and we've already exchanged numbers, hooked up after work and planning to have sex soon.

I just don't understand why I find it so easy and people find it hard,save themselves, or whatever.

Please explain to me

I know it's considered weird, but why??
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>>18067912
Hah yeah I guess, I just get told I'm hypocritical for wanting a confident dude when I'm not so confident myself.

And yeah, all that stuff in physical is usually things I toss out in favor of the personality. None of that is really deal breaking inherently, except as I said, I just don't get it up for fat guys. Sorry, not sorry.

The mental stuff, is all mostly mandatory though. I need a more dominant guy. I need a guy who can carry himself. I need a guy who's a good talker.
Those are all points I just can't really lower my standards on further. The dominance and confidence can of course not be 100% or perfect, but they need to be pretty high.
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>>18067898
>>18067932
Are you a 10/10 model or some shit? 70 women at 30 sounds like one of those stupid books that come out about like "I'm 40 and have bedded over 100 women!" and all that garbage.
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>>18067932
Im a male, but girls don't approach me/im not good looking. If the above was the opposite I would have tons of sex.
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>>18067933
Confidence is a masculine trait so there's no need for women to have it so much, the qualities they bring into a relationship are others. You're fine.
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>>18067927
Ask him out, he will probably appreciate the straight forward-ness, not having tl guess. If he's not in to you that's that, but do go waiting for him to ask if you know what you feel now. If I was him I'd appreciate it, only been asked out by a girl once. As for "gender roles", fuck that. If you like him ask him out, if he or someone else judges that you asked first they need to assess what is wrong with them.
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>>18067950
hmm yeah I suppose I'll just keep doing what I'm doing then. Waiting, and also just keeping an eye open.
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>>18067941
Not at all, I'm like a 7/10 on a good day. I'm just chatty, and confident and can usually guess when a woman's into me.

Like I said before, I was working with a girl 3 times and could tell she was into me so I just went for it at work when we were alone. And not all the girls I'e slept with have been that attractive, some have been like 9/10 but most like 5-7/10s.

I did watch some of that pick up artist stuff recently and I seems to have naturally worked a lot of there 'game' stuff out myself. Also, worked in a night club for a couple years and that opened my eyes to a lot of stuff.
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>>18067956
I ofcourse mean that you shouldn't wait around if you know what you feel right now, friggin phone keyboards and me not checking before posting
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>>18067932
I don't do it because i can't.
Imagine evry girl you ever met except the most fat and hideous ones, turning down your offers.

Imagine also that every love afair you ever had with these fat hideous women ended in disaster and drama.

Thats my life.

Most of the time in really really lonely and sex starved and crave skin contact, but ive given up. I know how i will feel if i go for the drama with the far girl again, and therefore i avoid women completely, because its better to be alone than heartbroken.
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Question for women.. Would you lie to a person who you really liked, just to avoid hurting their feelings?
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Love my girlfriend, but sex is drying up badly. I'm having trouble dealing with being rejected.
I want to fix it if I can, but I feel like I'm trying to hard and actually having a negative effect.

So is it possible that me trying to hard to romance her again could actually be turning her off?
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>>18067958
Teach us your ways.
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>>18067973
Yes, everyone white lies because they know its not worth tearing someone down over. For example, best friend buys this outfit she's absolutely in love with. I think it looks terrible on her. I'm not gonna tell her that even if she asks, because it's not worth it. That lie hurts nobody, because its so minor and doesn't matter.

If I shot a dude down and he's autistically demanding to know why, I'm just gonna say "Because I don't feel a connection" no matter what the reason. Because I know it doesn't matter what I tell him, the fact hes asking means he's gonna be hurt. This way at least really drills it into him that it's not his fault I didn't like him, however he also cannot spin it on me and berate me out of spite because it's not my fault either.
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>>18067932
And just like you can tell that women are intersted in you, i can tell that most women are not at all intersted in me. I can imagine that they are, but they aren't, so what am i going to do about that?

Im pretty certain they would let me know if they were, simply by not ignoring or avoiding interaction with me.
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>>18067956
Thank you for your reply, anon. See, the asking out part is what's making my head scratch because I have never done anything like that in the past and it looks like this one big mystery to me. How does one ask their crush out? In person or via text? I'd say we're on a good way to become friends at least, so I don't want to mess that up as well.
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>>18068003
Do it before you invite them to dinner.
Girls apparently don't understand that youre romantically intersted in them when you invite them to your home all of a sudden. They think youre trying to be friends.
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>>18067981
Have you tried talking to her about it?

Stress kills a womans sex drive, along with birth control, sleep etc... Could be a plethora of things so ask.
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>>18067984
>>18067965
>>18067999

It's not some magic technique you need to have.

Personal grooming
Be funny, smart, interesting
be confident

and change your mindset. Maybe she they weren't ignoring you because they think you're a POS, maybe they're being autistic just like you would be if someone you liked was around you. You'd drop your spaghetti right?

Some hints though, and obviously these aren't 100% reliable just guidelines.
>if a girl laughs at something you say , she likes you
>if a girl touches you at all when talking to you, she likes you
>if you're in a social setting and a girl you don't know initiates a conversation, she likes you

Don't try and sleep with them, just try and engineer a situation where romance is inevitable
>Invite round to watch a film
>walk them home at the end of the night

Try and score some 1 to 1 time and then flirt, by her reaction you'll no if she likes you. If she does, escalate.

BE CONFIDENT!
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>beginning of my relationship, my gf didn't like how I was selfish with oral
>now I eat her out more often
>now when I'm eating my girlfriend out she tells me to stop to finish herself off
She thinks (or claims) it's not a big deal, but it's a big deal to me. In my mind, she's telling me "you're doing a shitty job, let me do it"

Ladies, is it a big deal?
Is my oral game bad? Or am I overreacting?

I'd ask her, but I'm a little embarrassed to ask if I'm not doing anything for her.

I'm not sure if this falls under the ">XYZ Happened" category
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>>18068045
Not a big deal, have never cum from oral.

Just ask her to show you EXACTLY how she likes it.
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>>18068030
Its been a problem for the last 1.5 years of our relationship.
We talk about, she says its not about me its her. She says she will try and improve but nothing happens. Her job is medium to low stress, no birth control hormones.

When we do have sex its always great for her so I don't get why she shuts down most of my advances. It feels like shit.
I'm not afraid to end it but I do love her and I want to make it work.
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>>18068018
Im not sure if I understand what you said, do you mean I should befriend him more first before I ask him out?
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>>18067927
It's a bit of a turn on, because I like confident girls and barely any girls have the "balls" to make the first move in the first place. Even if I'm not attracted to the girl it scores some points.
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>>18067927
I find the confidence of women to be really sexy. Asking a guy out doesn't come off as desperate, it comes of as confident.

I personally do not like girls who think traditionally (Guys do everything, girls do nothing). I like progressive girls who take charge and share the responsibility. Mostly because I don't take "any" girl I find attractive. Because most girls (in my area) who are attractive are stupid and are copy+paste instawhores. I like smart and confident women who can think for themselves and wont lean on me for everything.

Unfortunately for me, very few girls meet this criteria that are also attractive to me.
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>>18068039
That's a good guide. Just an addendum: if you see a girl likes you, act fast, they can stop liking you quickly if you don't do anything.
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>>18068039
They don't do anything like that.
We have a customer service department at work where 80% are women. I've tried talking to them, but they're just like *whatever*.

I don't even dress like a nerd anymore, doesn't really help.

In fact most people ignore me, and i usually eat lunch alone. If i sit at a table, orher people (colleagues i "know") will take a seat far away from me.

People rarely greet me, some do, most don't.

My boss is concerned im working too hard, and that im not fucking done with it yet, at the same time.
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>>18068110
>>18068118
Well that's good to know that it's considered sexy when the girl does the first step. Do you guys have any advice on the asking out part specifically? As I mentioned in >>18068003 Im not experienced in anything close to dating.
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>>18068136
When you say you've tried talk to them can you give me an example how the conversation typically goes?
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>>18068146
>over text
This is a no-go in every situation possible. Important topics and questions are done in-person

Ask them in person, BUT I recommend you ask them for a situation that involves you leaving immediately. Example: Talking to them in between classes, after work, etc. If they say no, you can leave. If they say yes, you both leave happy and excited. If you stick around, the feeling may become awkward since you're both now anticipating a date, but you're still together.

This varies between people however. Some people enjoy the company right after the big question.

asking them out is up to you, but should follow these steps
>confident
>up front
>no beating around the bush (don't mask your intentions behind jokes, riddles, vague words, etc)
>eye contact (but not intimidating)
>NO LAUGHING/GIGGLING
This will make him think it's either a joke, or nothing serious. Both of which can ruin your chances. This may be difficult if you're nervous. It's okay, but be aware.

And if your guy is clueless, make sure he KNOWS it's a date-date and not a friend-date. Otherwise you'll both be disappointing when you go in expecting a kiss and he goes in expecting two friends hanging out.

If I missed anything, I'm sure someone will fill in the blanks.

pic unrelated.
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So I hit up this girl on Facebook a day after we had a short conversation in a comments section. I have no romantic/sexual intentions, didn't even think about the fact she's a girl. She's a musician and so am I, and that's a normal way I've found people to collaborate with. And had a few people do the same with me. It's like a thing that it's hard finding other musicians. Anyways, afterwards I realized there's a stigma to guys randomly hitting up girls on social media. Did I automatically come off as a creep by doing that?
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Got two questions. First is about dong size, I'm sure you get it a lot. I'm about 5.25" erect, probably 5.5"-5.75" if I lost weight. I've never accurately measured my girth, but I'm nearly certain it's 5.0"-5.2". Is that good enough for most women? In addition to this, I have a quarter inch skin bridge from my circumcision and that alone has led to more anxiety than I care to remember when it comes to relationships I could have had. I'm still a virgin at 21, almost 22, because I feel so nervous about what a woman would think if we got close enough to have sex. What is your opinion on skin bridges? I hate it enough to where I'm seriously considering just disinfecting a scalpel, getting really drunk, and severing it myself because I don't want to go to a doctor.

Second question is about meeting certain kinds of women. I'm into traditional games like D&D, cards games, and then just reading and vidya. There's a couple hobby shops in town, but almost no women go there, and the ones that do are taken. If you or someone you're friends with has these sorts of hobbies, can you tell me what kind of places that you frequent? I've tried meeting women, but it's like I'm a blind fish in a cave and all I seem to find are preppie types and college/student girls that sleep around a lot. I've been looking for a down to earth, nerdy type that's kind of introverted for a long time but, outside of junior high and high school, I haven't been able to meet any.
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Girls.

How attractive is delaying sex until marriage or at least a point in your relationship where you believe you will be together for the rest of your lives?
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>>18068184
I'd hate to break it to you, but the chances of you finding the EXACT girl you want is almost impossible, ESPECIALLY with those specific interests.

The few girls who are open about "nerdy" things are typically fake girls who only do it to appear like individuals (See: Jessica Nigri) and the ones who are legitimately into video games are likely not going to be much to look at. It may sound cruel, but it's the truth. People typically go to those activities because they don't require good looks or meeting people. Girls like pic related do not exist. They're images, characters, smoke-screens.

Of course, there are exceptions in the world.

You probably won't find the perfect girl, but hey that doesn't mean you're hopeless. It's entirely possible. But if your standards are too high, you will never find someone. You have to accept the fact that the girl who shares your interests likely won't meet the image in your mind.

That being said; try going to your local community college and joining the gaming club, movie club, e-sports club. You're more than likely only going to find chubby Filipino girls, but it's a start. Who knows, maybe you'll find someone?

side note: If you built your beauty standards off movies and porn, you WILL be disappointed.
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>>18068165
Its usually just hi.. blah blah, what do you work with? Nice weather. Where fo you live? Ok, so then you go that way and take that buss?

Im not a native english speaker, but that is usually the topics.

I dont watch any tv shows so i cant talk about that.

Sometimes i butt into conversations. Like once i said, apropos drugs in america and people being knocked out on top of tables, that my impression of of america is that there are basically hobos everywhere (D.C). Then i said its the same here btw. with the gypsies.

Everyone went quiet except one girl who was laughing.
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>>18068194
Girls love sex just as much as guys do. 99% of girls will be turned off by abstinent guys. Why do you want to abstain until marriage? Are you mormon?

Your best option is to put aside your prejudices and get some experience. No girl wants to get married only to find out the sex is lame. Whether you believe it or not, sex IS important for relationships to work.
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>>18068208
What if you have impotence. Can you never have a relationship then?
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>>18068216
It would be extremely difficult. Imagine having to date a girl who couldn't get wet.
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>>18068194
Sluts will be mad because you make them feel inferior. Waiting to marriage is a stretch, but unless the girl is absolute garbage tier she will want to date for at least 4-6 weeks before having sex. Maybe a little bit longer.
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>>18068221
I used to talk to one. She was very clear on to me on that wetness is no equal to sexual arousal.
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>>18068200
I don't have high expectations for what I'm looking for. I know that these kinds of hobbies don't attract the most beautiful kinds of people. I don't think anything I said implied that I was looking for a supermodel, just someone that I click with that doesn't destroy themselves with drugs or food. I'm just very lonely and while I don't think I'm "desperate", I want to get on the track of finding someone that I could share my life with. Like I said before, I have some anxiety issues (not all associated with the skin bridge thing) so if I found someone and got comfortable enough to be with them, I'd probably be happy with that for the foreseeable future. At least, I wouldn't have it in me to start all over again.

I've never been to college. Do they let just anyone join clubs? People who aren't even students? I didn't think that was an option.
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>>18068227
I think you're missing the point.

Girls do not like abstinence. Unless you're ready to renounce your technology and become Amish, you're going to have to have sex before marriage. It's normal. People have been doing it since the stone age.
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>>18068234
I don't like it either but i can't preform so i rather not have penetrative sex. Its been really awkward in the past. I can please them in other ways though.
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>>18068231
I only said those things as a precaution. A lot of people like you (not to sound rude) tend to think that women are obligated to like them back. You'd be surprised how many lonely NEETs go around demanding petite asian girls who like anime and video games.

I don't think you're desperate. If you were desperate, you'd date a lard-planet or a junkie.

>I've never been to college. Do they let just anyone join clubs? People who aren't even students? I didn't think that was an option.
Unfortunately, you do need to be enrolled. However, a lot of clubs are leniant. If you know someone in the club, they'll likely let you in. Don't take my word on that.

Worst case scenario: take a language class or something light (like tennis) and you're technically a student. You'll have to pay for the class at the end of the semester but making friends is priceless.

Also, do you have a job and a car? If not, get one. Girls don't like driving their NEET boyfriends around, assuming you even get that far.

If you live with your parents, dating post-high school might get tricky. For a lot of women, guys with their parents are a turn off, even if it's temporary.
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>>18068244
Oral is not enough. Get some viagra. Sometimes the truth isn't what you want to hear.

If there's no sex, she WILL cheat on/leave you. Girls have standards. Don't be one-sided.
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>>18068208
My reason for my abstinence isn't religious, but a secular one. I want to have children and have them brought up by people who are in a solid, loving, and stable relationship.

Statistically, couples who save their virginity until they are wed tend to be far less likely to divorce - even when we control for the fact that these people may be far more likely to be against divorce. The reason for this is that after around 3-5 years the period of strong feelings and mutual obsession in a relationship fades; at this point, the couple are kept together via familial obligations and the force of their affection is grounded moreso on ratiocinative factors (things that operate at the conscious and non-emotive level: shared interests, personality compatibility, etc) than emotive ones (lust, etc).

Sex is something which triggers the non-ratiocinative reflexes of an individual's feelings. The oxytocin forges strong bonds from sex, but they are transient ones. So if you have sex before marriage there's a greater chance you jump into things with a person who you are attached to because of a predominantly physical rather than intellectual/personality-based chemistry.

Unlike your claim in, >>18068234, MUCH (not all, ofc, there have been many experiments in living) of the history of human civilisation (post stone-age) has been predicated on long-term monogamous relationships. Why did marriage become so predominant as an institution in various disparate cultures around the world and culture of no premarital sex emerge? Because humans who were matched based on their compatibility other than sexuality tended to produce more stable relationships and better environments for children. Pre-marital abstention was justified post hoc by religious practice, but almost all human institutions emerge because they generally are more useful to have than other institutions are generally useful in a way.

I also have some emotive reasons.
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>>18068255
Fair enough, I know what you're talking about but I have no delusions on what's attainable for me.

Hmm, I'll see what I can do then. I have a few friends in college but I've always wanted to go for a few classes or topics so I might as well look into it.

Yeah, I have my own place, a truck, and work 40 hours a week, usually more with anything that can come up and the commute I have to go through to get to work. That's part of why I'm having trouble meeting anyone new. I just don't seem to be making the right choices when it comes to finding places to frequent in my off time.
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>>18067556
taking what i said way to literal was referring back to the statement before but my grammar is awful so I can see why it's confusing

what i should have said was "he recently asked me out on a date again, that was the second date we went on"
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>>18068262
You think i should go to a hooker, practice and get more confident in my own ability before trying to date anyone?

And yeah, i can get viagra but i dont need that when i dont have a gf, and fapping to porn works regardless of how hard it gets.
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>>18068276
tl;dr but from what I skimmed you basically said "Fuck your advice, I'm abstinent"

If you honestly think banging before marriage has never happened in the past, you're naive. We live in the 21st century.

Good luck.
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>>18068184
Sorry pal.
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>>18068288
anon pls
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>>18068180
That's some good advice, I'll make sure to not giggle or joke when I'll gather enough courage to ask him out. However, we do not go to the same universities and I can't imagine leaving quickly. Unless we have another friendly hang-out and I ask him out right before we part ways.
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>>18066436
Just like muh animoos
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>>18068286
You asked why I wanted to abstain before marriage, so I gave you an answer. I also never asserted premarital sex has never happened. Thank you for answering my query with your thoughts, however.
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So there is this girl that I known for about a month, we usually meet a couple of times a week at parties and mutual friends places (college). The things is when I drink I get kind of depressive and because we got along so well I just started spilling my guts to her about all about my personal issues and shit. The thing is she doesn't seem to be put off by that at all and it helps me because I use her as kind of a sponge for that stuff, which makes my other social interactions more upbeat. The question is why would a girl want a male friend that just bitches all the time? Honestly cannot understand why she hasn't told me to fuck off yet
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Girls

If I'm hanging out with this 1 female friend, and I start talking about aviation which is something I'm extremely passionate about, she just gives me this huge smile and giggles. Everytime I notice she's has this big smile when I talk about Aviation.

Do you find it attractive or something when men talking about something they enjoy a lot? If so, why?
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>>18066436
Cut your losses. If your sister likes him back, let them be.

Don't be an asshole to your sister just because you're jealous and want to get laid. If he isn't into you, don't make her suffer because of it.

unless she's like 14 or something and he's 18+. Then stop him.
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>>18068307
Pity, probably. I once had a girl who was at least an 8/10 strike up a friendship with me when I was at a uni summer school thing that lasted for a few months because she was from a pretty well-off background and picked up that I was from an abusive household and suffered from some issues with my self-esteem. She never was romantically interested in me, but she just had a good heart and realised that I was a guy just as smart as her who'd been dealt a bad hand, and wanted to help. Plus she found me to be OK company, good jokes etc.

She was very maternal. Some women are like that; they have strong maternal instincts towards people who are downtrodden.

There is a chance she's attracted to you, tho. Try asking her why she puts up with all the moaning. Could be that she could like you a lot; if she isn't dating another guy and her response is evasive and/or unclear, try asking her straight up if you'd like to spend more time together.
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>>18068292
Come back and tell us how it went.
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>>18068288
Lol, not true. I have a bigger than average dick 6"x6" and it's too big for a lot of girls. Unless you have a micro penis then it really doesn't matter.

Also, you know how guys penises come in all sizes? The same is true for women's vavajays. Some are deep, some are shallow, some struggle to take 3 fingers, some can take 4 easy. Knew a girl who was 16 and not that sexually experienced that I could fist when I got her turned on enough, and then I knew a small Chinese girl who slept around that I was too big for.

Vaginas are like snowflakes, no two are the same.
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>>18068317
Yeah, not sure why exactly.

I guess it's nice to hear about someone's passion and love for something, especially if you like them
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>>18068338
Thanks, sound advice. The whole attraction thing did cross my mind, so I'll ask her next time. Still I'm not sure if I would even want to continue, sure I like her, but I feel that after a while you build a mold of your personality with people and the one I created with her is not the one I'd like to continue on. I guess I should stop being a sad cunt before it's too late
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>>18068317

Obviously she has a fetish for aeroplanes
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As a guy, how unattractive is a habit of chewing on things?
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>>18067991
fair enough, but in my case, it IS partially her fault.

that being said, how would you feel if you knew you had some part to blame? don't you feel that you could at least pay back with honesty rather than leading him on?
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Fellow ladies who diet or have dieted, have you ever had my problem?

I'm good on my diet at all times, except when I'm on my fucking period. I cannot seem to keep myself from just binge eating and feeling hungry 24/7. Is this something that happens? I've never had anything like it before but I've also never seriously dieted before. Every other day is fine. Just that period week I drop the ball on everything and pick it right back up again when it's over. Wat do?
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>>18068463
Man, but I know girls with similar problems. Metabolic increases are common during menstruation; think of it, your body is creating and dumping a lot of organic matter, and you need to replace it.

Drink plenty of water when on your period, and try to eat good quality food; fruit, veg, lots of protein, and good carbs. Menstruation should be considered like the flu or over illnesses - you need to eat whatever you can to recover. Just eat the right stuff while you have cravings, and follow your diet at other times, and you're fine.
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>>18068479
Thanks mate. Like, it's not that huge a deal because I only get 2 periods a year due to my bc, but fuck feels like every time I get hit with this shit I gain like, 5lbs in that week alone, and then have to spend the next 2 weeks working it off. Shit sucks.
Guess I just gotta will myself to not eat the shit, because I only ever crave sweets and junk food, which I know is pretty normal cravings at least.
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>>18068463
this is ask the opposite gender thread not the same gender reeeeeee
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>>18068463
Don't have binge foods in your house
That's the easiest solution
When your will beaks, it's unlikely you will go all the way to the store to get junk
Keep your fridge and cupboards clean of snack shit

On the other side, have lots of "clean" binge foods
Like celery and diet dressing
Or pickles

Something to fill you up
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I got nothing against kinky play, even then it's nothing major, my girlfriend wants me to smack her ass, cuff her and call her a slut. I'm happy to do all these things. But I want to make them last, right now all that happens is I do those things, and then we just fuck like regular.

I'm not very good at games or rules or pretending, it even feels weird calling her a slut, like I suck at acting. But what are some fun ways I can draw the experience out?
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Imagine you're on a date with an ok enough looking older dude
He's in good shape
Has some nice muscles

He has a good job too. Lots of money

But you later find out he's a virgin who hasn't had a relationship before.

What do you think?
I'm most afraid of being laughed at.
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>>18068501
You need to raise your test
Hit the gym
Do some lifts before fucking her
Cardio works too
Come to her sweaty with your muscles bulging

It'll come naturally to hold her down
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>>18068489
It was starting to fall off the front page and everyone does this shit all the time anyway. So whatever.
Besides, the ask the same gender thread specifically said no women allowed.
>>18068496
True. I like to keep a handful of "cheat foods" on hand to allow myself a treat every now and then, and I'm good about that, except when Moses is partin the read sea. Then all of the cheat foods go down at once lol.
I'll just start keeping fewer around I guess, or just like, making my roommate hoard them from me lol. Part of the struggle of the bc taking away my regular periods is I have really no warning or idea when I'll get em lol.
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>>18068506
>It'll come naturally to hold her down
Note to self, start offering sex to dudes walking out of the gym
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>>18068503
See OP:
>There is no one answer. Preferences differ, but complexes are always a turn-off.
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>>18068525
I'm not asking for a definite answer
I just want the opinions of the people floating around here

Everyone has opinions. I want to hear a few
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>>18068526
My opinion is that virginity is fine, but complexes about virginity is always a turn off.
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>>18068528
That makes sense.
I'll always have a complex about it. I mean I'm 27. Most people lose theirs more than 10 years before.
I'd be oblivious if I didn't feel anything about that.

I'll have to compensate by being bigger and richer.
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>>18068534
idk mate thats on you.
nobodys gotta know youre a virgin, if youre that hung up on it go fuck a bar skank and be done with it
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Guy here

Why are cocks and balls so much better than vaginas?
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>>18068463
learn to replace what you eat with better alternatives

replace drinks with water

replace snacks with vegetables (NOT fruit. Those calories add up. Fruit is healthy, not necessarily lowcal)

If you're craving something greasy, drink a shit ton of water (note: too much water is dangerous, but a gallon a day is completely safe) and fill up on light stuff, like celery (10 calories) with peanut butter (depends on brand). Don't use too much peanut butter though. It's a bulking food.
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>>18068542
You're right
But fucking some bitch who just wants to be fucked isn't the same
Someone has to choose me

It's a small thing, you know? To be chosen?
But it's very important to one's self-worth
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I guess this is a question for both genders since I want to hear what each side has to say. I was molested by someone a lot when I was young and I've never really had a romantic or even purely physical relationship. I'm a kissless virgin, outside of what happened, at 22 and every time I think I'm getting close to someone, I get really anxious and doubt myself a lot. My self confidence is through the floor, when it comes to romance, because the few times I did try to reach out to someone in my formative years I fucked it up or failed miserably due to thinking/doing things that weren't right for starting a relationship.

I guess my question is how do you "do" romance? Like, what are the signs that there's something there you can cultivate into a relationship? What do women want to see, feel, and do? I spent so many years where I was screwed up when it came to relationships and sex that now when I'm doing well enough to live a normal life again, I have no idea where to start. I'm sociable and liked by most people, but as soon as something romantic comes up, even as a possibility, I seize up. Even typing this I get the feeling of my heart just dropping through my stomach while I think about it. How do you deal with this, and how do you move on to having a relationship? It's so difficult and I just don't how to initiate romance correctly. What makes it even worse is that women apparently don't like it and lose attraction if you tell them about your feelings regarding to what happened, based on my experiences. Do I just need to never talk about it and imitate what everyone else does? I don't know what to do. I hate myself and every time I try to act like a man, I remember the things he did to me and want to kill myself again.
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Is it normal for girls to have smelly buttholes?

I love doggystyle, but my girlfriends butthole smell is very... noticeable. It doesn't smell like an outhouse, but it takes me out of the moment. I don't have the heart to tell her. I'm afraid I'll hurt her feelings, especially if it's normal and I'm the odd one out.
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>>18068548
Yeah, but if your complex is just about being a virgin who cares. Lose the virginity and you'll be more confident.

Because if you wanna be chosen, you have to be confident in yourself man.
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Anyone can answer I guess.

I asked this girl I liked out to coffee next weekend and she said yes, how do I not come off as a complete asshole and/or loser? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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How do I confess to my friend that I have feelings for her?
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>>18068567
"I want to date you."
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>>18068557
Tie an air freshner to your penis. The air current from thrusting will create a pleasant smell.
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>>18068567
>Hey, want to go on a date sometime?

Fuck off you weeb faggot
>Hurr confess
Fuck off some more
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>>18068571

Surely there's gotta be a better than that.
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Girls who use dating apps (say tinder): What exactly do you wanna hear from a guy as an opener?

I've had success with tinder before, met girls and transitioned to dating and sex and even the odd relationship, but it still baffles me as to what you wanna hear

I just try to be friendly, I'm supposedly quite a witty guy so I try and be funny without coming off too try hard

But so many conversations just fall dead flat or I don't even get a reply in the first place

So you won't message first, but you hate "hey", you don't like "boring interview questions" like what do you study/where do you work, you don't like guys coming on strong with compliments off the bat

So what do you wanna hear? Obviously everyone's different but there must be a generally favourable opener

I'm just tryna be friendly and get to know girls, trying to initiate and carry a convo when all I have to go on is your name and pics and a meme + single emoji in your profile

Shits hard work
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>>18068288

My dicks gotta be no bigger than 6 inches and girls have only had good things to say about it, and I was too big for one girl.

Girls are crazy, they say size matters until you're in the bedroom and then what matters more is just how you operate

The biggest dick you can have for a woman is confidence
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>wife barely stops by at home
>If she's home she leaves after 10min to party with her friends
>doesn't eat with us at the table
>doesn't bother with the kids
>For months she picks them up, holds 10sec and puts them down saying they smell bad or are ugly (strange cause before she showed love and affection and played with them all the time)
>Every weekend arrives in the middle of the night drunk
>I do healthy breakfast but her lunch and dinner are many times nothing more than canned goods and coca-cola, and the kids are falling sick.

I complain many times, but overall we had an harmonious home.

I stopped by her party girl friend's house last night to see if she was there to go with me to the hospital and I took the chance to show to her friends that my 4 year old daughter was sick as result of them bringing their destructive habits into our family (cause they have been derailing my wife's life for the past few months) and they just blatantly said they didn't bother a bit.

What kind if human beings are these?????

My wife is becoming like those monsters.

And I don't know what to do.

Any femanon care to kindly explain what's going on in a woman's head to suddenly behave like this?
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>>18068579
>not having a bot to generate an opening line for you
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>>18068589
Sorry to say anon, but she might be cheating :/
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>>18068589
>wife is dismissive towards family and would rather go out and get drunk
>neglects the kids, leaving everything to you
>Ignoring you

Anon, I have two theories:

1) She's bored (or scared) of family life and is going out to party to give her life "meaning"
2) She's going through some deep emotional/psychological issues and refuses to tell you; copes by doing what she does

If this continues, leave her. You and your kids shouldn't have to suffer for her laziness.

and if she's this dismissive towards you all, it's very possible she's cheating on you. It's bitter but it's possible.

You seem like a good parent. She doesn't deserve you and your kids.
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>>18068572
This genuinely made me lol
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So I'm kinda falling for a girl in my class and she's really cute and (I think) flirts with me sometimes. But I never know how to interpret it, and I've never felt like that for someone.
How do I even know if people are gay?
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Girls:

Do you really believe in horoscopes? It seems like girls believe in these things strongly.
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>>18068620
I don't but I agree, I've seen some chicks treat it like religion.
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>>18068629

Yea that's what I'm saying. There's this girl I liked and she asked for my sign and after I told her she said, "oh, I don't know about 'those'". It's a little ridiculous. It's like a girl could be into you, but as soon as she finds out about your sign and how it doesn't 'match' theirs it's all over.
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>>18066532

Dick size isn't that big of a deal. It can be a bit of a barrier if it's really small (though not necessarily a dealbreaker-- just requires more creative thought) but you're well within the parameters of normal dick size. I don't think the average woman would be put off.
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>>18068637
>>18068620
Women are prone to superstition and enjoy being in a controlled environment, so now that they aren't beholden to their husbands or society at large due to women's lib, they find other things to govern their actions and decisions like horoscopes.
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>>18068641

>I don't think the average woman would be put off.

Jesus it sounds like you need at least an 8.5 inch dick so you surely won't be rejected for it.
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>>18068562
Lie to her about what you do, it's really that easy. Women will believe anything if you say it with enough confidence.
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>>18068646
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>>18068695
Sorry bro/sis, it's the truth.
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>>18068719
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>>18068724
Hey

[spoiler]nice gif[/spoiler]
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>>18066419
I am ugly and no man will ever desire me. Every time guys irl look at me they look away or make a point to not look at me at all. The only attention i can get is online from people I will likely never meet. Should I just kill myself? Is there any hope?
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>>18068730
>Should I just kill myself?
I'd say yes, but don't try to overdose on sleeping pills like all the other females, try something else.
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>>18068557
tell her to have sex in the shower and spread her asscheeks you can also
>massage her prostate with a soap bar.
>pour shampoo over her
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>>18068730
Are you fat or actually ugly in the face?
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>>18068730
If you look that bad, you could probably just settle for another ugly person in your league. Or buy a lot of cats or kill yourself.
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>>18068730
Post a pic. Are you fat? What are your problems?
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>>18068730
Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl.

>mfw thinking of you hurting
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>>18068764
Terrific shitpost, my man.
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>>18068764
are u a guy or a girl?
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>>18068769
Hi! few things to start off with =] 1. yes I responded to you because you're a female 4channer, 'tis an awesome thing to see! 2. I'm Brian. 3. Don't be intimidated, but I'm not a stereotypical guy. If anything, I'll be the one in the kitchen.
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>>18068764
Best pasta
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>>18068768
Ikr, long time since I've seen a quality shitpost.
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>>18068784
>>18068784
holy shit
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>>18068764
>>18068784
top fuckin kek
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>>18068784
>>18068764
noice
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>>18068730
r u fat? r u ugly? What the hell do u have
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>>18068764
>>18068784
Grade A pasta my man.
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Guys, although any opinion is welcome:

Is it a deal breaker/ red flag for you when you're getting to know a girl and find out she suffers from a mental illness and takes medication for it

In my case it's depression, but regarding mental illnesses, how much is too much?
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>>18068924

Gonna ask the same question as her, except I'm a guy.

Is a guy with depression a dealbreaker?
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>>18068924
I'm willing to overlook it if she's hot, takes care of herself and is making an effort to fight her depression. That's admirable.
Also is she still sexually active? or at least can have sex even when she doesn't want to? This is the main issue t b h
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>>18068924
>>18068930
It's not a deal breaker if you're trying to get better. But it definitely depends on the mental illness, a friend of mine has paranoid schizophrenia and while I love her a lot I couldn't possibly imagine dating her.
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>>18068924
Depression isn't a deal-breaker if you're taking medication for it. If you're not taking medication it depends how bad the depression is.

Since you're taking medication, I assume you've had a doctor diagnose you?
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>>18068924
No, for me, it isn't. I dealt with borderline personality disorder and found a loving person behind the disorder, I can probably deal with most other disorders.
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>>18068837
Not fat. Cardio as much as possible and try to eat healthy. Could be face.

How do men normally treat and react to women they find pleasing. Do they hold their gaze? Try not to look at them? I just need to know for sanity's sake.
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>>18068971
Unless you have 3rd degree burns or something I highly doubt you look as bad as you think you do. Most people are way too self critical.
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>>18068930
It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me seeing as I have it aswell.

>>18068937
I agree, it's your attitude that matters the most because then it's not just about a mental illness but how you handle problems in general. If your reaction to either feeling down or having your partner feel down is to wallow in self-pity or turn aggressive then I'm out.

I go to therapy and take medication because I want to get better, although that doesn't make depression go away entirely.

>>18068934
If it's warm hole to sink your dick in you're looking for, then a fleshlight probably won't give you as much trouble.
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>>18068986
>If it's warm hole to sink your dick in you're looking for
what the fuck lol you don't need to be rude I just say it's an important factor
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>>18068961
I wasn't given a formal diagnosis, just a prescription to help me with feeling sad or particularly shitty with my life and having very little energy. I talk to my therapist about depression because I have those symptoms.

Even before I had therapy, I talked to a psychiatrist and she prescribed the anti depressives.
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>>18068620
One girl actually dumped me because I'm born in November. She said she can't stand Scorpios. Pic related was my face when she said it.
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>>18068995
I know sexual appetite is a big thing but honestly what did you expect with

>or at least can have sex even when she doesn't want to

If what you meant was if she would be willing to partake in anything sexual even with a low sexual drive then that's one thing, you phrased it in a very nasty way.
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>>18069016
well this is your question right? do you have lower sex drive than your guy? no? then it's not a problem. Yes? then are you willing to make compromises for your partner's need? yeah sometimes it means some sort of release other than penis in vagina since your vagina is so sacred and all, but what if he wants PiV?
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>>18069014
Dodged a bullet.
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>>18069047
I guess so. It was fucking funny though. Before I left I asked if she believes that Santa Claus is real.
>What is that supposed to mean?
Nothing at all. Have a good day.
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>>18068689

That couldn't be further from the truth

Big dick: Good
Average dick: Fine if you don't have a complex about it

The only problems are absolute micro dicks but most people don't have those, and even then it's only a real issue if you aren't good art pleasuring her regardless

Nobody's ever Gonna see a small dick as a good thing, but get good at oral and it won't matter
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>>18069051
Not to jump to the defense of that kinda girls but I've wanted to date a guy in high school who as it turned out was seriously into horoscopes and didn't want to date me because "as an aquarius you're probably too volatile for a virgo like myself"
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>>18068695
>>18068646

Honestly compared to women how often do you meet men who believe in the healing properties of crystals
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>>18069059
Both genders obviously have their fair share of people who believe in dumb shit. I just find astrology to be one of the most retarded and funnier ones.
>Your date of birth defines you as a person.
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>>18069055
>>18068689
>>18068641
I thought it says something about dick size in the OP, and for a good reason, it's always one virgin guy asking the same question and other guys start getting agitated and defensive
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>>18069065
Yeah definitely. Lots of people believe absurd shit.
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>>18069081
In astrology's case it just might be the mental masturbation that gets people off.

>Oh my god this zodiac sign site laden with ads got my personality so right! I'm like the most stereotypical <astrological sign> haha! Can't believe it's true.
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Does asking a girl out upon first time meeting have a bad success rate?
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>>18069089
Im pretty sure most of the self help stuff is basically masturbation, yeah. Horoscopes probably rarely say "today you're a total cunt, better off yourself and avoid a lot of trouble for everyone".
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>>18069104
How much do you think I would have to pay a newspaper to print that?
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>>18069104
The daily horoscopes are the worst offenders. It's always some vague bullshit.
>You've been feeling down a bit, but keep your heart open to new ideas and people, forgive and forget.

I wouldn't say self-help is inherently bad, since it's kind of a broad term. You can get pretty tangible results with fitness self-help, for example. When it comes to things like books by Mr. Renowned Psychologist writing about how to be a better person, and the opening paragraph is something like "You might have noticed these traits in yourself" then it's just mental masturbation.
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>>18069108
Dunno, can just anyone put horoscope ads?

>>18069119
well yeah horoscopes live on being vague bullshit.
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>>18069065
>>18069060
>>18068695
>>18069119
http://www.astrology.co.uk/news/astrostats.htm
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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