Me and my girlfriend arent having sex anymore

>>18059535
What are her excuses?

>>18059543
1.we have a 5 month old daughter that she uses as a get out it card constantly whom was c sectioned easily no vaginal tears or problems there,wounds healed months ago
2. She"s tired
3. It doesnt feel the same
The thing that keeps me up at night is, we had our child, and she went on birth control after the pregnancy but we still have not had intercourse once so i dont see why she feels the inclination to take it. We both work but she leaves and comes back on time. Something just doesnt make sense to me

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>>18059565
>but we still have not had intercourse once
but she has

>>18059565
I also dont get how she can not really give a fuck that we arent having sex, eventually its going to lead me into temptation so why let it go for so long. I just dont know if she has a problem with her libido or its worse shes manipulating me and going out getting fucked.

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>>18059535
Post birth depression can affect women in many different ways. See a doctor.

Or she's cheating on you.

>>18059565
She started birth control after the pregnancy, but won't have sex with you? I know birth control pills are used for a plethora of different reasons that aren't just preventing pregnancy, but still it's a bit suspicious. Birth control can also lower a woman's sex drive because of the effect it has on her hormones.

But it still sounds pretty strange t bh. Are you 100% sure the child is even yours?

>>18059606
Yes im 100% child is mine

>>18059582
Ah yes. The pill that gives an amazing average of 0.5 more enjoyable sexual experiences a month with the bonus side effects like blacking out, especially when drinking, and was pushed through FDA aproval without proper testing by AstroTurf feminist organizational pressures.

>>18059602
This is what im leaning with most. Sucks, used to be happy too

start the conversation and work it out.

Let her know that whatever it is that's going on, it sucks more to not know than it will to know. "hey I need to understand more why you don't want to have sex, it's really making me uncomfortable and upset that something weird is going on. worse than the sex, is that it feels like you are keeping something from me which is really shit."

Just talk to her.

Obv it's something related to having a kid. Could be some doc said she should take it easy or some shit, and she took it literally.

>>18059613
Honestly, between her job and being a new mother, she probably doesn't have the time to cheat on you. Still, her going on the pill yet never having sex with you is the part that would weird me out. When she first started using birth control pills, did she have a specific non pregnancy avoidance reason for doing so? If she did, then there is probably nothing going on.

>>18059629
No, she doesnt like condoms thats why she took the birth control afterwards so me and her could have unprotected sex like we used to.

>>18059637
Well shit, that is fucking strange. I'd say to straight out ask her what's going on, but the issue with that is that you'll likely make it even more difficult to catch her cheating if that's what she's doing. It seems like you're shit outta luck.

>>18059627
I have tried "talking it out" she cries unconsolably, wont really talk shell just get mad and stare at me cry some more then i will cave to her emotional frailness and i will still feel screwed for giving up my conviction about sex during the arguments cause she cried ill start to feel bad and beginrepeating the cycle over and over

>>18059658
She "cries" when you ask her why she doesn't want to sleep with you, but can't/won't give any actual answers? 100% manipulation. I bet she's getting railed while she's """"""""""at work"""""""""""

>>18059616
well shit, news to me. pff

just tryna get em to pop dat lady boner brah, help a bro out

>>18059644
My thoughts exactly, she's good at not telling whats on her mind

I gotta go to bed thanks for the input guys

>>18059658
Don't get discouraged by her crying. Stay calm and strong and be patient. She can probably get though her tears to have an actual discussion if you do.

If not, try doing it in writing. Write her a note, email, text, etc. and ask for her to respond to it that way as well. She might be better able to express herself that way and she can't just get out of it by crying.

>>18059679
Don't do anything rash, because this is still the mother of your child and you don't want to fuck things up without knowing 100% that she's doing something wrong.

>>18059535
you're a lucky son of a bitch because she is your girlfriend and not your wife. Women are protected by marital rape laws and she has no obligation to give you sex.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marital_rape_(United_States_law)


Also you are punished for divorcing her because she deny you sex.


http://www.ibtimes.com/jamie-cooper-hohns-530m-divorce-top-5-most-expensive-divorce-settlements-history-1730471

>>18059658
Don't listen to the assholes saying she's cheating until you have more proof.

She might be depressed, and the birth control isn't helping. Shit is going to suck a bit while you both (especially her) adjust to your baby. I got really weird about sex too for almost an entire year, I just didn't want sex. And it hurt me knowing that I was affecting my partner as well. Sometimes I'd just do small sexual shit for him so he could get off and not go look for release somewhere else. We did have "sex", but I wasn't ever really into it and it hurt which made me not want sex even more.

Don't accuse her of anything and try to get her to tell you what's wrong. Be extra loving and don't bring up the sex subject right away. And when you do make sure you're not insensitive about it. She could be in a lot of mental/emotional pain.

Also doctors pretty much make you get on birth control after you have a kid.

>>18059565
this is normal. the hormones that cause lactation kill your sex drive. also, rasing a child makes you tired. you should definitely just dump her and go have sex with hookers. forget your fucking child and it's mother you fucking dirt bag. Just go get some pussy. blow a load, you selfish wanker, since it's obviously the only thing that matters to you.

>>18059535
Put it between her hips and imagine it's intercourse. Haven't sesame street taught you the importance of imagination? Oral alone is great.

>>18059535
I may be able to help. Do you do anything together? Other than sex I mean?

>>18059535
>girlfriend
>have a kid with her
Fucking degenerates.

>>18059565
This is actually really normal for relationships right after having a child

Your issue isn't unique and if you love the mother of your child you're going to buckle down and be patient for a while while her hormones work themselves out. She has also probably sensed your resentment towards her for lack of sex and feels pressured to perform in bed despite the fact that she no longer perceives her body the same way which-as anyone can say-stressing her out can cause less performance in the bedroom.

Be honest with her about how you feel, tell her that you're willing to wait, but that sex is an important aspect of relationships for you and it helps you feel connected to her.

But I mean...if not sticking your dick in something is causing you to be disloyal to your gf who has now had a kid then I don't know what to tell you.

>>18059535
Dude if she's crying and losing it in the bedroom and can't keep up on the daily there's a really good chance she has post-partum and nobody caught on to it.

Have her go to a doctor and see what they have to say.

>>18059535
She just gave a birth and is raising your baby and you expect her to happily jump on your dick?
>she went on birth control AFTER the pregnancy
She didn't plan to cheat on you right after the pregnancy, it's quite obvious, yet she took these pills. It's either post-birth-trauma induced fear of another pregnancy, or her body got rekt and she needed hormonal stabilization (which fuck psyche u sometimes).
Have you ever tried to make her horny? Can't you, like, just fap?

Just give her more time, you selfish prick, at least until your baby becomes more self-sufficient, so she can get a rest.

She has just grown an entire child inside her and that does awful things to your body - perhaps she doesn't feel comfortable about getting naked and having sex with you? Confidence is a huge part of sex and if she isn't feeling sexy, she isn't going to want it.

On top of that, she's tired because she has a baby. She's probably adjusting to being a mother, rather than just her own person as well, and that must be incredibly difficult.

You need to speak to her about this and voice your concerns. As others have said, it might be postnatal depression which can be awful if not treated. You need to support her until you can work a way round this together.

I can almost guarantee she isn't cheating.

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>>18059535
>>18060012
Also, give her some love and warmth, you fucking selfish cunt.
Hug her randomly, kiss her forehead, nose, neck, tummy (most important).
Make her not only feel attractive, but needed and loved too.
If you supported her properly and treated her different than a cum-dumpster, she'd feel better, and ultimately let you have her delicious peach.

>>18059616
This

>>18059535
Dump. If she is exibiting this behavior early on you do not want to be married to a woman who turns it off when she feels like it. Call me old fashioned but I have no use for a woman that isn't DTF 24/7. If she's young and healthy that usually means a healthy sexual appetite. If she's a double chinned caffine slammer she is probably throwing her hormones out of whack

I seriously want to slap you, OP.
She just had a baby. She has all the post partum hormones and all the birth control hormones, she must be tired as hell and all you can think of is fucking.
Just get over yourself, be nice to your girlfriend and make her feel a bit less stressed and relieved, maybe she'll want to fuck you.

>>18060453
>Let's dump the mother of my child because she didn't want to jump on my dick right after a baby got out of her body

>>18059658
She's depressed and is using emotional outbursts to keep you from bringing it up. It is not your responsibility to make her sane. She knows she is fucking things up but like most women she is too selfish and lazy to fix the problem. She'd rather stew in her own sorrow and ignore the problem

>>18060461
Found the fem cuck

She is seeing someone else.

>>18059980
Of course you'd get desperate for confirmation elsewhere if your GF hasn't been willing to have sex for 5 months. Hormone changes or not, not doing it even once during 5 months is really weird.

>>18060577
Op here, yeah thats the way i see it

>>18060457
You know i can tell a woman wrote this, because you have no clue what I have given up for my girlfriend and my child, i dont have to prove that to anyone on here, yes i do get women give up alot for birthing and parenting but so do men. Ive gone above and beyond patience and understanding. Im thankful for all the perspectives but feminists posts can fuck right off.

>>18060037
We are never intimate no matter what approach i take so remind me how exactly im treating her like a
>cum dumpster

Maybe she got tired of finding your porn?

That did it for me. I can't even foreplay let alone sex with my boyfriend anymore.

>Porn addict since he was 17
>goes to therapy at 19 because he'd spend entire pay on it
>we meet when we're 22
>hides addiction until large credit card and phone bills come through
>admits addiction
>gets better but will spend 100 here and there on cams

I just got fed up. Tried everything in the book to help this situation and now I'm too put off. His dick is weird too, it gets hard but never really hard.
So I'm done with having sex with him. He won't flirt, he's never actually horny, sex is mediocre but he's a great boyfriend apart from this issue.
So I stay because I can deal with no shitty sex and masturbating feels better anyway.

>>18060778
No she likes porn, im not crazy about it, she doesnt like man on woman porn which is weird for me since she only likes lesbian porn, but getting her to doing anything like that anymore is impossible.

>>18060778
Im in a similar predicament where aside from the sex and intimacy she is a great gf, but i am getting so spiteful that if she ever does want sex im afraid ill be too fed up at that point and say no just to show her how i feel, and sex cause you want it and sex cause you feel guilty are two different things which i dont want the latter

>>18060817
Just explain to her that it's not working out.

>>18060859
I convinced her to stop taking the contraceptive so hopefully that fixes it if not then it might just lead to that

>>18059872
Everything, walks, go out to eat, movies, concerts, i spoil her.

>>18059793
You are one dumb son of a slag tosser, a man can provide all securities and protection as expected of him for his family, but dare he want sex and love from his partner and he's an asshole for it? Fuck You britcunt

>>18059535

I have a 4 week old currently and a 3 year old as well.

COMPLETELY NORMAL.

Here is what you do but you have to be serious and you aren't going to like it.

> Sit down with her and explain that you understand how hard things are right now and that she is going through a hard time
> Explain that you have been selfish and inconsiderate to pressure her into have sex when she is not ready.
> Promise her to give her space and that you won't even ask or expect hand jobs or blow jobs or anything until she is ready.
> Apologize if she felt forced or manipulated into anything she isn't comfortable with
> Present her with two passes for a day spa so she can go get pampered with a friend on a Saturday while you watch the kid
> Let her know how much you love and appreciate her.
> Let it go

She needs to feel safe and destressed to feel sexy again. This is the only way. I learned the hard way. Every other way just makes things worse.

She will come back to you again later when things aren't so fucked.

>>18061086
Will give it a try thks anon

>>18061086
I really appreciate that you took the time to write this post, as a fellow dad its comforting knowing im not the only one. Hopefully it will help, God bless

You have two ways to deal with this. The problem is it's going on for far too long.

Her testosterone is maybe too low. Not every woman needs the same hormonal levels but some do. The amount of testosterone a woman requires for a healthy libido is still very low to cause unwanted side effects. You should pay a visit to a doctor (endocrinologist) to determine if the issue lies here. You can stop using hormonal contraceptives and switch to diaphragm, or switch to a different brand, or even suplement testosterone to get her libido back.

Five months without sex is not normal. Relationship without adequate physical intimacy is not normal. No matter what she says that's not healthy. You will either have sex or the relationship falls apart. Sex is a bonding mechanism and has many health benefits outside of relationship.

If you are sure the kid is yours, you can still be her father without living with her mother. It's up to you to be a man but I suggest you should reevaluate yourself and even your posts in this thread. Your mental health is falling down, she is creating a situation where you are conjuring images. It doesn't matter if she is cheating or not. In your brain she is because you think about it. This leads to new structural formations in your central nervous system solidifying your mental suffering. You are basically creating pathological environment for yourself and your relationship. This can go for years and in the end you'll just look back and ask yourself why you didn't stop yourself sooner.

A healthy man needs sex. Don't fool yourself by pointless fairytales. You won't reap any bonus points for your restraining behavior when the chips fall down.

>>18062063
Youve got alot of good points

>>18062063
This part hit me like a ton of bricks
>A healthy man needs sex. Don't fool yourself by pointless fairytales. You won't reap any bonus points for your restraining behavior when the chips fall down.

Did she take birth control before the baby?
It can mess with things outside of the already fucked up baby shit.

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Just cheat on her. It'll be your fault if you get caught.

>>18059535

Go out of your way to do something really nice for her. Take what she enjoys doing and go from there. Whether it's a night out with her girlfriends, going to a spa, taking her on a romantic getaway, anything that takes responsibilities off her for a while and allows her to unwind. Even if only for a day or two. And don't expect anything in return.
Stop being so selfish.

>>18062584
No not till post pregnancy

>>18062063
Listen to this nigger right there. He got his psychological shit done.

If you're forced to make rationalizations in order to feel normal, then some shit's wrong with you and your environment. And her childish behavior, where she immerdiately snaps at you, crying crocodile tears - this is the first lesson in a woman's playbook in order to get what she wants. Take my word for it, I grew up with three woman and have seen the total depths of manipulation, and am completely immune to this crying bullshit. Just reverse the situation: Would you immediately cry and shut down conversation when your partner addresses an significant issue? I think not, and you don't want to get treated like that. Five months is insane, and the fact that she's avoiding a solution to this problem shows that she doesn't care anymore, about you and the relationship. Cut yourself some slack and ditch her asap. She is an adult, not a teen anymore.

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>>18059980
>its normal for a couple to not have sex

right sure and
>sex is important for a relationship

Don't see any contradiction there? Oh wait

>your a scumbag if you need to get laid

and we have the cherry on top.

You basically hate OP and his GF and don't want them to be happy so you can push the blue pill "just submit to womyn" idea. Its not like OP's gf doesn't want that.

OP, you need to

1. tell gf its a serious issue but you'll work with her on it.
2. Be patient and don't be a bitch about *needing sex* (see start masturbating 2x a day)
3. Remove the barriers to sex (get a babysitter, give the gf a massage, do the dishes, turn her stress down to 11)
4. Rail the absolute shit out of your gf and make her cum buckets or break up with her when she still won't have sex. This is where the masturbation is important. You last longer or you don't have the emotional "I can't break up with her because my dick says so" shit in your head.

Just be aware if this backfires the relationship might not be savable and she'll need even more shit to be lubed up to sex. If that's the case it means she's milking you and trying to get the maximum return for using her vag. This doesn't have to be conscious but it means the relationship is over (unless you want to prep for her bull).

>>18063238
Men grow up being taught not to cry. It absolutely happens that men get angry and start yelling and making accusations as soon as a certain topic, argument etc is brought up. Or just shut down completely and stop taking part in the conversation.

>>18063258
Yeah I know, but stereotypical behavior of men and women ain't the issue here. He shared how she reacts, and this is one of the stereotypically vicious traits of a woman.

Of course, men can be as equally retarted with a complete disconnect from their emotions. But I'm proud to say that I'm not one of them, and therefore usually forget this issue.

OP here actually doesn't ignore the problem and tried several methods to get shit done, which were all in vain. And the worst part is, he is as submissive as a dog, sucking up all the emotional torment for the past five months, to the point where he is gaslighting himself. I deeply advise him to get out of there.

Otherwise, his GF is open for masturbation sessions and oral. Maybe she's somewhat traumatized for pushing a watermelon out of her vagina, therefore doesn't want an one-eyed snek in there.

>>18063283
Sure, it just irks me when people act like (wo)men don't show the same behavior just because it takes a slightly different form at face level.

>>18063303
Nah, not everyone on 4chan is a redpill-faggot. I understand your discomfort though.

>>18063322
Cheers man, I really appreciate your response. Not many mild mannered people here.

>>18063328
Ha, ironically, the main reason I got on 4chan is because of this common asshole-ishness. I find it hilarious how some people respond on dismaying topics.

But yeah, certain hive mind-mindsets here are really disheartining when you realize how serious they are about them.

Cheers dude, have a great day!

>>18059968
Hey Tim, how's 10th grade going?

>>18060012
>>18060037
You're an asshole, fuck you

>>18060461
>right after
>5 fucking months

Well, if u guys wanna hear a real mental mindfuck, she asked me last night how i felt about having another kid, i said we could talk about it later, but in my head im going WTF is going on!!??

>>18063248
1 2 and 3 i already do, 4 isnt an option if it was i wouldnt be posting on here talking to you guys about it.

Experienced the same thing a you OP. Half year dry spell. Turned out she was bipolar and in a depressive state. The sex was overwhelming when she got manic.

>>18063283
That worries me too
>his GF is open for masturbation sessions and oral. Maybe she's somewhat traumatized for pushing a watermelon out of her vagina, therefore doesn't want an one-eyed snek in there.

I didnt expect having a child to castrate my gf sexually. We used to be very connected sexually, now its the last thing she could want, and im afraid of losing any semblamce of our relationship.

>>18063657
Talk to her. At least if you get another kid you have to fuck her once.

>>18059535
OP, just ravish her, or as we like to call in it ye olden days, "rape."

Another oddity i left out was when we do mutual masturbate she will not allow me touch her pussy, she says it feels weird, the vibrator i bought her is fine but my hand isnt?

>>18063657
Alright, now it becomes concerning. She might really cheat(ed) on you. Maybe she feels so bad about it that she doesn't wanna have sex anymore, and now wants to anchor your ass with a second child. I know it sounds kinda far-fetched, but my gut's telling me nothing good about it.

I advise you to be alert, and kill your affectionate feelings for the time being, so you're able to see what's going in a sober state.

That's just fucking weird, and if shit's getting fucking weird, then the origin behind is usually something despicable. Been there, done that. I know it's hard to get a neutral state of mind, but try it for the sake of your future.

>>18063690
Yeah but heres how it will go, i will say i dont think we are ready for another kid yet, she'll ask why i can be truthful and say our relationship is shaky/no sex/love or lie and say its some vanilla reason. Point is, She used to want to have sex with me alot and now she doesnt, her behavior is stranger and stranger, i dont know if this her fault or if she is aware and just doesnt care. She is the hardest person to read i have ever met.i live in new england she is from NC and she is hellbent on me moving down with her and our baby, thats where her family lives and something in my head is telling me DANGER
STOP
Think carefully

>>18063708
Like I said, that's incredibly odd.

Dude, did you force her into pregnancy? Was a child your very wish but she wasn't really into it? Women tend to be very submissive in order to keep her mate. Maybe that's her way of getting revenge on you - even though it may be not your fault at all.

If she doesn't even let you touch her vulva, then ... fuck, I'm at a loss for words.

>>18063717
My thoughts exactly, we havent had sex for 5 months going on 6, and now she all of a sudden wants to have another baby?

>>18063726
No the condom broke, she wanted to keep it, i agreed and saw the tests to make sure my daughter was mine.

>>18063734
Maybe she had a moral conflict about abortion and is now regretting the shit of herself for keeping the child. And now she wants another child for her confirmation bias. It may sound fucked up, but it could be what's going on.

OR she is already pregnant from another one, uses your sex-starvation in order to get rammed asap, so she can say it's your child.

What the fuck do I know, whatever it is, my gut's telling me nothing good about it.

The fact that you've been distrustful if it was your own child tells that the relationship didn't have a stable foundation to begin with. As long as you're not bound by contract, I would reconsider your current situation thoroughly.

>>18063724
I feel after nearly 6 months you need to seriously talk to her. She can not use tears and puppey eyes to get out of it. And until it is clear what is going on with her be it stress or depression or something completely unrelated another kid should be the last thing you think about.

>>18063741
Wholeheartedly agree sempai

I have to admit this the last place i thought id find myself letting go my personal issues but after seeing her ask a moms support group on FB about it and there response was fuck him he didnt have to carry a baby,feminism you girl shit so i wanted to vent myself, i sincerely appreciate all the input anons

>>18063751
Honestly I think you're both selfish idiots and this isn't going to end well for any of you, especially the kid.

I think feminists are selfish idiots and so are 4chan /adv/ posters who encourage you to abandon your family. Essentially neither of you are loyal to your child and thats the saddest thing about this thread.

>>18063751
No problem mate. She sure needs a lot of confirmation bias for her shitty behavior - if this isn't a red flag, then I don't know what it is. She thinks just because she endured the pain of giving she is eually as privileged as a holocaust survivor. Except:

>she wanted to keep child
>you aren't her jailer
>she choses, she thinks she loses
>now in a FB circlejerk group

Very concerning. External ideas can be very destructive for her and her environment.

I wish you the best possible outcome man.

>>18063759
Well your entitled to your opinion and to being an asshole. I could give a shit what your assumption of me is.

>>18063759
Nobody advises him of abandoning the child, the main problem here is the relationship. He better takes custody of his child because his GF is clearly unstable, which could result in a dysfunctional mother-child relation.

>>18063765
implying this thread isn't a circle jerk, except the posts from actual men/women who have been through this same situation telling OP its normal and will work itself out... but no, he'd rather abandon his new family than have patience.

>>18063773
Maybe she's unstable because she just had a fucking kid?

Nah what am I saying...

Even if someone does talk sense to you you've already made your decision. Not gonna try to change it since you're just here looking for confirmation bias, but I will say this is pretty sad just as an outside witness.

>>18063775
Quote me once on abandoning my family in this thread fuckface, oh thats right you cant you delusional piece of shit, learn to read before you post

>>18063775
I don't think it is a circle jerk, because it is about an actual problem which tackles the very foundation of almost everyone's relationship.

Not everything's a Disney movie, people are usually fucked up which results in bitter experiences and not happy endings. And he provided enough prove.

>>18063779
I havent made any decision so idk what the fuck your talking about

>>18063787
This desu

Oi OP, keep us updated. I'm really interested how this shit will go around.

FYI: I'm the faggot with terrible feeling in my guts.

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>>18059565
is the child black or mexican?

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>>18064246
Why not both?

>>18064226
Well so far its the same ole song n dance, i dont know where to go from here, some anon wrote earlier kill your affections and remain aware of everything in a sober mental state. But now what i worry about is, she knows i want sex, she knows it and yet she does nothing. Our delivery was a simple c section that healed quickly so her vagina and canal were unharmed. I dont understand how she could see how much its pulling us apart and not try to have sex. Leads me to scary conclusions that could not even exist but fuck if i know cause she's a brick wall mentally.

no sex = no relationship

Look for a woman who is willing to have intimate skin contact with you. If your current one is not willing then you must have fucked up in some permanent way which causes her to no longer see you as a sexual person. You're the one who fucked up; you must have done something to look unmanly to her. Note that following women's advice is always and eternally unmanly. Advice comes from people who make and fix things; it's not just an opinion.

>>18064737
I realize which is why i am desperate to bring sex back into the relationship but if she is unwilling and doesnt enjoy it anymore how do i stay in love with her when im being rejected at every turn, you say i did something unmanly i dont think i did, but hey maybe your right im the one in a sexless relationship.

>>18064708
Yeah, I was that same anon. Break down the wall then, calm but firm. You're serious about it, want to fix the relationship and she's giving you the cold shoulder nonetheless.

To be frank, even I don't know what I would do. Definitely solve the problem by any means neccessary, and if that wouldn't help, well, tough shit for her, a "sayonara" will do the trick. You'll be free from this bullshit, at least.

I dont expect anyone here to give me pity nor do i want them to, im just trying to figure this all out cause its confusing,conflicting and frustrating to think about. My close friends say go get pussy elsewhere but i want the mother of my child, itd be easy for me if i thought sum random pussy would fix it, i just want answers and a way back to when we had more than just sex, we made love. Should i want someone who doesnt want skin to skin contact with me. Im just at a loss here

>>18064782
Same anon again. You know what really pissed me off about my ex? She did never ever initiate sex - oh, she was frequently horny. But damn man, when I realized that I took the initiative all the time, it dismayed me quite a bit. A man wants to know he is loved too, through action.

Heck, and your GF even refuse sex - I can't imagine how you must feel, I mean if this past shit already set me off ... ugh, you waited longer than any saint would.

This is kind of seperate but it irks me that i work all week, every fucking sunday night i come home from work im tired sore and stressed, ive got bills to pay, all she fucking cares about is some shitty show called the walking dead. It bothers me i pay for fuckin tivo and she could record this shit and spend quality time w/me but some retarded show and aftershow where they talk for an hour about what just fucking happened!! Takes more precedence than showing me any interest.

>>18064793
No, you shouldn't want someone like that. You know your priorities, act upon them before you lose them through gaslighting. Like someone here said, your mental health is at risk. It's not only about sex here. She deprives you of affection, that's more than enough reason to confront her with all you got.

>>18064802
Wow, she doesn't even ask you how your work was? Why would you give a shit about a show you don't even watch? Doesn't she have more personal topics to talk about? Was she always like that? If that's the case or not, she's incredibly egocentric.

>>18064795
Its the same deal w/ me, if i ever do bother her for sex, she'll give me blowjob or a handjob but never unless i bug her for sex will she do that as like a deterent of some kind, me being an idiot will wait a few days say hey could we have sex later, she'll say something close to "i just gave u a bj 3 days ago, what that wasnt good enough?". If i concince her to mutual masturbate she wont let me touch her pussy. Its weird and i dont like it. I try to think that if she was normal before just maybe inside she's not too far gone from me to rekindle our sex life this but right now it seems like a longshot

>>18064811
It certainly feels that way, i tried taking the blue pill and let me tell you it fucking sucks i dont like feeling like a caged animal where masturbation doesnt even provide relief just brief relaxation followed by shame/guilt/anger/resentment. Women can easily throw that all you care about is sex argument in your face my gf does that frequently when i persist this problem but its part of the foundation which any relationship stands on. If we were to have sex i dont know what would happen would i say no to be spiteful or self righteous, would it fix the issue, would i beast fuck her and forget the anguish ive been put through for such a simple basic need. Her lack of action about it is what is tearing me down. I do nice things but still nothing. I feel like tom cruise in vanilla sky saying tech support! Its a nightmare!

>>18064812 also >>18064840

Man, this gets more concerning the more you reveal.

>"i just gave u a bj 3 days ago, what that wasnt good enough?"
Holy fuck, did her values of sex make a 180° turn? She thinks of it as a resource; probably you provide with your fatherhood and she with her (not vagina) femininity. Some shit changed in her, or it was her plan all along *xfiles tune intensifies*

I think she ain't attracted to you anymore, at all. I mean, no matter what gender, if someone is attracted to another one, then the someone wants to fuck the other one. If sex dies, then the relationship too. The longer you wait, the more toxicity you're in and get poisoned sooner or later.

Sorry to leave you now, but I needa sleep. It's almost 2am here in Germany. I'll check back, heads up! And take as many redpills as you can! Even though I'm not a fan of it, but she's talking you out of a basic HUMAN need. That's really despicable. Even people in their 60s and 70s come to fuck around, for Christ's sake!

>>18064858
Tommorow me and her have the day off together so hopefully something will happen that illuminates this. Thanks for the input and insight.

Dont just hope. Get her to talk to you and figure out why she is acting the way she does. If she cries wait till she has calmed down again. Don't let her manipulate you. I'm very curious how this will turn out so please keep us updated.

>>18065178
I did bring it up tonight thoughtfully, she read an article on lack of libido being linked to post pardum and she said she would make a dr's appointment. When asking her if she missed sex she said she did but the answer was delivered unenthusiastically. Idk what the dr ia going to do but its a female dr so i doubt that it will be an outcome that will benefit our sex life

>>18065213
So did she explain why she doesn't want you to touch her pussy? I guess it's a start though the fact she is so closed off about the whole issue is worrying.

>>18065350
She ain't attracted to him; at the end of the day that's the only relevant detail. Her curse of impotence will disappear like magic after they break up.

Bump for update

>>18065359
German guy here again. I agree, it'll probably work out like that, if he breaks up with her.

>>18065350
The fact that it took her five months just to take action - upon your persistence - is, like mentioned before, very concerning.
Ask her bluntly: Are you attracted to me? And if she throws a fit or tries to talk you out of it, state to her that you don't feel loved anymore because of her bullshit; that she doesn't care about your work, your feelings and complete lack of physical affection.

This cannot go on like that. Again, you took way more shit than it was ever neccessary.

>>18065350
When i brought up that she doesnt let me touch her pussy, she said she doesnt know why it feels weird to her now. Hard to make progress when your getting idk's on it and she says she'd go the dr about it. Logically, i dont think there some magic pill the dr can perscribe that will make her want me to touch her pussy. If her issue is mental or has to do with her not being in love w/me anymmore, the dr can only help so much, its on her i feel like for better or worse to change this.

>>18066423
>she said she doesnt know why it feels weird to her now

Bullshit. "I don't know" equals: "I perfectly but am to much of a cunt to be honest"

>>18066423
I have only rarely had a relationship last longer than about 2 years before the girl decided to hardly ever have sex anymore. They seem to lack persistence over time. Anecdotally, supposedly maintaining attraction beyond about 5-7 years is uncommon and beyond that relationships typically have to be based on talking/logistics/legals.

>>18059793
What a fucking moron. Dont even acknowledge this shit OP. You are entilted to have sex with your partner and should 100% follow your desires and wants. You got yourself into a very shit situation with the kid, so dumping the cunt wont be easy. You should let her know that it is causing you to feel emotional pain and that manipulating you by crying is not right. If she proceeds, knowing full well that this is hurting you- dump her and let her know that the sole reason for the separation of her child's family has to do with her own decisions.

To add on to this mess, i like to think im young and healthy, it wont be that way forever and i think about other couples or my past relationships where even if they sucked, still had intimacy, not this weird roommate shit.

>>18066527
Thats where its headed ultimately, for my daughter's sake, im trying to hang on to the relationship because i had divorced parents its sucks, i dont wanna put her through that, i like to think that i could stomach the loneliness for my daughter to grow up with her parents but if there is a mental illness involved or she's cheating that could equally make my suffering all in vain.

How long have you been with her?

>>18066600
Three years

>>18063724
Don't do it. If your gut is telling you something you have to listen because more often than not you are correct. Don't pretend a fairytale is real just because you can imagine the rainbow and unicorns. Or because you fear people may form a bad opinion about you.

Don't marry her and certainly don't make her pregnant. You'll destroy yourself and fill your life with regret if you listen to her plan now. You don't have to do it and you shouldn't listen to anyone but yourself.

I actually feel creeped out by your need to put emphasis on danger. Remember you can still be a great father even if you break up now. Don't entangle your life with this woman yet. Work on your relationship problems and if that doesn't work out you'll have to end the relationship if you really wish to be happy and more importantly if you want to be a good father. Resentment and artificial connection creates a pathological environment and I don't think you want to raise your child in that.

Do yourself a favor and watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkcVV5iWfIw

>>18066588
Divorced parents are better than parents who resent each other and fight constantly, but stay together "for the kids"

You don't know what your parents spared you from

>>18066891
Much obliged, watching now, will update afterwards

>>18067048
So many variables to this, for me i just want to make sure whatever i do decide it will help her me and our daughter. The greater good option so to speak i just dont know what that is right now or how long to keep up acting fufilled w/her before i snap.

>>18064858
>I think she ain't attracted to you anymore, at all. I mean, no matter what gender, if someone is attracted to another one, then the someone wants to fuck the other one.
>>18065359
>She ain't attracted to him; at the end of the day that's the only relevant detail.
>>18066365
>Ask her bluntly: Are you attracted to me? And if she throws a fit or tries to talk you out of it...

>>18060939
>i spoil her.

Does she spoil you? Obviously not sexually, but in other ways?
You can look at love through all sorts of lenses, but I find the most practical one is
>your love for someone is indicated by what you want FOR them, not FROM them
So, what does she want for you? Is it obvious through her everyday actions and words? Ask her very directly what she wants for you, every day as well as over the course of your life; her response (and how she delivers it) will be very informative.

It probably wasn't always the case, but I'd put some serious money on this relationship being a one-way street. You give, she takes. You pursue her, she does whatever the fuck she wants (and gets upset if you don't keep up).

If this is where you're at, there is only one thing which will bring her back around. Fear of losing you.

Today is the only day off we have together before the work week begins again so i tried making a move, i had put the baby to bed, she was lying down i snug and ask if she wants to have sex, she says"but its the afternoon" she says she tired and it would hurt BUT then she asks if i wanna touch myself while she vibes to a porno, i say nevermind unenthusiasticaly, shes in bed right now either asleep or pretending to and im smoking a joint cause fuck her

>>18067373
>Fear of losing you.
Ive told her its pulling us apart but no attempts from her to fix it, ill admit i mention that it could break us apart but ive never said its sex or else were through. I never thought it would get that far

>>18067373
No she doesnt do much outside of what we both do as adults clean,bills,laundry,groceries.
She has it pretty easy with me providing most of the income we need. Without me,she'd need to go to college and get a degree otherwise she'd be screwed financially speaking

>>18067375
OP by all means, that shit is getting more depressing the more you share about it. Heck, I thought I'd never say that in my life to someone: I live with my dysfunctional family trying to get out of this shithole with no success, and I wouldn't change places with you.

>she says"but its the afternoon" she says she tired and it would hurt BUT then she asks if i wanna touch myself while she vibes to a porno
Dude, she doesn't want your dick at all, and ain't attracted to you and tries all kinds of bullshit compromises, but guess what, there's no compromise for the stimulation of penetration. What would hurt her, actually? Her pride or any other feelings? For fucking with the father of her child? Afternoon? Jesus, I would've snapped at this response "WHAT'S THAT FOR A BULLSHIT EXCUSE? STOP MINCING MATTERS, WOMAN!"

Jesus, I just get angry from reading about her bullshit.

>>18059535
You need to be horny enough to just take her

>>18067401
Dude tell me about it, MY DICK would hurt her even though she didnt deliver VAGINALLY AT ALL, our baby was a scheduled c section, the scar has healed months ago. What in the flying fuck am i supposed to believe would hurt her pussy. What could a dr even do for her about that? Give her a vaginal reconstruction? If its post pardum wtf fixes that? Im at a loss,and generally just feel defeated. Two nights ago she comes home to prime rib steak dinner w/roses wine, this morning breakfast in bed (and it was a fancy fucking breakfast let me tell you "tasty" really knows their shit.) I make her lunch for her to bring to work every night before i go to bed. I do everything. I aint in bad shape, im not ugly, workout. I need to think about alot and measure it out logically. Thanks for all the words everyone to those who spoke genuinely.

>>18067387
>Ive told her its pulling us apart but no attempts from her to fix it
You need to work with the
>women operate like cats
principle.

You don't get the cat to play your game by saying
>if you don't join this game, I'm putting the toys away!
Especially if it wan't interested in the first place. You certainly don't get the cat to play by having serious and upsetting conversations about how unhappy you are with the lack of games.

You get the cat's attention by having higher priorities than the cat.
You get the cat to play your game by playing regardless, by making sure you're having so much fun that you have forgotten about the cat, and by playing with new cats to prove how much fun is had (this also makes old cat jealous).

If it's important to you to play, find new cats who are interested in your game, and let the old cat figure it out on her own. This is the only way cats (and by extension women) learn. You don't need to cheat, or manipulate. But you do have completely legitimate desires and drives. If your life partner isn't interested in helping you meet your drives and needs, you should rightly start shopping for a new partner, and there's no need to hide that.

>>18067455
Makes sense, i completely agree with you, and a fucking spot on analogy

I gotta say man in my head i thought today would be the day we got back on track but now this cycle is just gonna start over. If she were in my shoes HOW long would she wait for me to have sex w/her before going out to find it somewhere else you know

One of the most infuriating threads on here in a while. Fuck these kinds of women.

>>18067504
Wait, she doesn't want to have sex with you, and you're worried she's gonna grow dissatisfied of not wanting to have sex with you and go get it somewhere else? I can't even

No what im saying is i dont get her logic behind any of this anymore

>>18067453
How old was she when you became a couple? Man, I'm sorry if I hit you with that one, but she may have settled for "less" before her biological clock is over. I know you've been togehter for 3 years now, but she may have realized it is too much risk to jump in the dating pool again and just sticked with you.

From what you've written, you seem genuinely friendly and considerate. And all the things you do for her, even though she deprives you of sex, is proof of that. Other women would kill for such a man. Don't sell yourself below your market worth. Your GF has obviously changed but doesn't want to admit it. That's okay, people change often throughout their lives, be it for better or worse. Tough shit man, but I see only one good way out for you, and you can guess which one it is. I think it'll better for all of you. You get to slay some pussy (finally), your daughter isn't at risk to grow up in dysfunctional family and your GF can freely fuck around like she (probably) secretely desires.

>>18067455
>>18067476

Are you both trying to fuck Garfield? Here's something I never thought I'd have to type "Women aren't cats".

You guys should split. If she's not cheating on you then you still have communication problems. If she doesn't want to deal with them it's her fault. Don't stay with her for your kid's sake. It will only get worse if you don't deal with it now.

>>18067536
No but they act like cats.

since she went to bed she hasnt come out of the bedroom, i got a lot to think over, ill be on and off guys

>>18059582
>>18059616
BTFO!!!

Its like women have no soul or empathy. Usually I try to ignore all the redpill bullshit but this makes me mad.

>>18067808
Don't blame all women for it. Guess what, people are shit because they're shit, not because they have a vulva between their legs.

Redpill-faggotry isn't a long term solution by any means, but it sure helps to not see woman on a higher pedestal anymore. One extreme can balance out the other. It helped me to get over my ex and my women complex, but after a month or two of "taking the redpill" I realized how fucked up and discrminatory this mindset is. That's just another facet of glorified fascism.

>>18067375
honestly from what ive heard and experience, women are never really going to respond to "want to have sex" very positively. maybe next time try kissing her, touching her and just taking control? asking for sex through words like that can be a big turnoff, and i doubt thats how you were going about trying to have sex early on in the relationship.

>>18067808
If women don't see you as a sexual being then you're not going to get much action. You need to change your image; everyone you used to know will criticize you for doing this but none of these people wanted you to be happy. Focus on strength training, but you also need to build up your confidence as much as possible.

>>18059535

Hey OP.

First off, I'm really sorry to hear of your plight. It's a super tough situation you're going through. I've got to say, I respect how much of a man you're being about this. Throughout it all, you've been providing, considerate, caring and empathetic. This is what real men do. Fucking kudos for putting your daughter first - that shit is more important tgan anything.

To the issue, it seems extremely obvious to me - take her to therapy. Not a doctor, but an actual psychologist. It's super clear to me that your girl is depressed, or is having some kind of emotional issues. Disregard what snowflakes say - sex is an important part of any relationship. But even apart from this, she seems emotionally distant to you in other contexts. That definitely indicates somethings not right psychologically/emotionally with her/the relationship. What you want is effectively marriage counselling.

That said, I would say stick with it. That's real love - to make choices for the good of other people regardless of feelings.

Personally I would look into counselling/therapy asap as it would be the best hope for repairing the relationship.

My girlfriend went through a depressive phase and didbt want to be touched sexually for over a month. That was already hard. No idea how you manage to not explode in her face daily. Hope you figure something out.

>>18068390
Counseling will provide his GF with two things:
1. Therapist enables her despicable behavior
OR
2. Therapist will say what some of us already said: she ain't attracted to him

There is no repairing for this shithole he's in. His cunty GF managed to deprive him of sex, manipulated him whenever he addressed this issue and now OP is doubting his own beliefs ... FOR 5 STRAIGHT MONTHS! She ain't giving a fuck about him anymore.

Listen, this isn't a Disney movie, for fuck's sake. And OP didn't make the mistake of marrying her, he can bail immediately and get a partner who will match his standards AND take care of his daughter.

Here is my final advice OP: Instead of desperately trying to find a cure for AIDS, better take your current research results and invest them into a disease you are more likely to cure.

>>18067533
She was 25

>>18069362
And she was heading to her 30s ... hmm, it may be she really didn't want to take any risks at 27.

Is everything okay with you, bud?

>>18069426
Not really feeling too good, im considering signing back w/ my gym to get some needed space and clarity. Our quality time to spend together is getting smaller by the day, the worst feeling is i told her the lack of intimacy makes me so restrained i get mad when its not the babys fault for this but i get more impatient and irritable and im not like that at all.

This will probably sound like im defending her inaction but i read some women experience uteral scarring during c sections which can make sex painful, they perscribe estrogen ointment to treat it, now i just wonder why they havent checked for this or what will be the outcome when i mention this to her at 4 today.

>>18069193

Well at least then OP will know for sure, instead of assuming, and blowing up a repairable relationship. If for nothing but the kid.

The counsellor's objective is to help get the relationship fixed with professional input. If they say the gf is going through something serious, then it must be true, and this will be the reality that is to be worked with. On the other hand, they may conclude that the girl has quite unceremoniously fallen out of love, or something. It is not valid to reject a professional's diagnosis just because of some vaunted 'redpill' worldview.

Also, it will allow OP to be able to tell someone irl all of *his* side of the story, to someone that will almost certainly understand - which can probably help OP a lot.

>>18065178
>Don't let her manipulate you.

no she is going to manipulate him if he has the sex drive. His big brain has not overpower the his little brain and this gives the girlfriend control over him.

>>18069744
I know how hard it is to ignore a crying woman you love but at some point you just have to say fuck it.

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I just found something strange on her ipad, her youtube history has a very strange recent watch history. All voyeuristic sex videos?

theres more too,
Jessica beil stripping in that chuck and larry flick and brittney spears pussy pictures? I feel like im gonna be sick

>>18069872
Nigger, don't make yourself crazy. It is fucking strange. But I think you won't get anything out of it if you address it. She'll guilt trip you for that, like all the other times.

She may have a strong voyeur fetish, so what? It doesn't solve your problem to know that. It explains why she was ready for mutual masturbation sessions. That's it. Don't lose you focus man.

>>18069905
Nah its weirding me out cause shes kept it hidden, of course i know she watches porn like lesbian stuff but this voyeur stuff is all about sex in public places. Im not gonna bring it up but its fucking strange for someone who doesnt want sex but looks at porn on youtube?

>>18069928
One last thing you could try is sex in public. Maybe that gets her senses tingling. Maybe it was her plan all along with the watch history on YouTube *xfiles tune intensifies*

Have a walk in a not so lively area and then grab her by the pussy. I'm drawing straws here. Maybe she wants to kink it up and thinks you should do all the work.

>>18069934
This is so backwards it might actually be true. A very sad attempt of a woman at logic.

>>18069934
Well fuck it, she's home at 4 i might as well try although gotta say wouldnt she notice a correlation when i try to do it? Plus her saying it hurts her pussy would come up, even though weve only attempted sex 1nce since birth. Fuck it will try anyway

>>18069934
Another thing is i couldnt find any xxx material on her phone or computer history but i look up youtubes history and its couple voyuer stuff and celeb pussy pics all from a girl who supposedly isnt horny?

>>18069965
>wouldnt she notice a correlation when i try to do it?
If she asks, then say you wanna spice things up, may that'll get her in mood.

>saying it hurts her pussy would come up
Force anal penetration. Problem fixed.

>>18069969
Hmm, that's weird. Can't say anything about that

Man, all in all: If that's the reason she behaved like that or not, I would ditch her. No matter if she hate spiteful intentions or not, she avoided confontation at all costs and NEVER considered how it might affect you, and you lost more or less your mind. If I had experienced that, Jesus, I would've packed my suitcase months ago. I would never ever persue such a relationship. It is toxic on so many levels, and think how it'll affect your daughter, growing up in a probably dysfunctional family - I mean, if the parents have a dysfunctional relation, it is very hard to keep a picture of a functioning family, and the delusions could cause mental disorders for her.

I'm done with this thread. I'll follow your updates, but man, you take way too much shit for your own good.

>>18069959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRWbIoIR04c

well i fucking took a stand and it went as expected. I started by asking her when she was going to go see a dr about her libido. She snaps that she says she"hates her dr! And doesnt want to go in her sparetime. I say how isnt that avoiding the issue, we could easily get a new dr. She starts angrily staring off into space teary eyed while i try saying calmly "please just talk to me" i suggest a therapist she gets offended. I ask how long is it suppose to be okay without sex? She says idk idk. Im getting pissed so i snap and say "do u just want to breakup simce you clearly have no interest in fixing our relationship. She says "shes heard all she needs to hear to know i dont want to be with her and i just want sex. She accuses me of not caring about our daughter and caring more about sex.
Really fucking angry now
Tell her its over and that our daughter deserves a mother that loves and appreciates and comforts thier father. I left her there crying.
Fuck man, i needed to let it out

>>18070993
Continued,
She is a good mother but now i can see she is suffering mentally/emotionally post pardum, and if she isnt going to seek treatment or let me help her, as it stands when she's done crying im telling her to get her shit, and call her sister shes not sleeping here tonight.

>>18070993

Holy fuck, this thread is still here!? I am the guy with the 3 year old and 4 week old.

All you want is sex but she avoids the topic like the plague? And then she throws your daughter into the argument to try and manipulate you further?!

Fucking low.

Here is what it is OP. She is avoiding this and subconsciously knows she is in the wrong. Her Ego is fooling her into thinking the problem is yours or anything else so that she can feel vindicated and feel like the victim.

You need to walk. No more arguments. Just walk and say that she has to prove to you that she is finally willing to stop avoiding the truth and go to counseling with you.

And for fucks sake, shelter that poor child from this mess and be a good father no matter what happens. Good luck OP.

One last thing i forgot to mention, when she was telling me all i cared about was sex, she mentioned another reason why she didnt want to have sex was cause i "asked her too often and now she doesnt want to anymore"
But thats bullshit any time i have ever asked her for sex and she said no id get discouraged so i would space out the time i asked patiently, fucking saint like patience. So she is lying or just believes her own bullshit. I just cannot deal with this woman, this hurts alot sure, but it hurts more knowing she doesnt give a fuck about me at all anymore. I've fought for her and our relationship/love/family and i provide take care of her, her needs, its just not enough for her and its fucking sad and pathetic

There's nothing wrong with your gf. If she has no libido she might be asexual (lack of sexual interest). Just because she doesnt' do vaginal sex you act like this? Jesus, dude.

>>18071032
>be a good father
You said it man, i just cant hide from this, she doesnt want to reconnect or say legitly why her reasons are for causing the seperation of our family cause she refuses to be honest or open w/me, doesnt keep her word, lies, i fell in love with someone who wasnt that, and i really dont know what happened to the girl i first met. God im getting upset cause she was normal when we first started dating

>>18071056
First off you dont know shit if you didnt read what i posted above in this thread so i suggest you learn to read before you post

>>18071056
>There's nothing wrong with your gf
>she might be asexual
You don't think that might be considered "wrong" for a non-asexual guy in the relationship? Shit dude, you're kind of a retard if you don't see how that's gonna cause problems

Holy fuck. Please keep us updated about how she reacts. It's good you finally let out your frustration.

>>18071056
>used to have a normal sex drive
>not anymore
>dude she's asexual xD

Even if she is, she should have found another asexual, not torment OP with her miserable bullshit.

>>18070993
>>18071005
>>18071033

Fucking well done OP. Good on you for standing up for yourself. It's sad it came to this, but yeah, as you say, it's clear she's going through something, and if she's not willing to do anything about it, then well there's not much else you can do.

One thing I would be careful about is how you frame the issue when talking about it. The lack of sex is just a symptom of something going on inside - and that's what you're concerned about. Make that clear because it's true, and also so you don't look like a dickbag that only cares about sex. Maybe you can get her sister to help? But id imagine talking about your sex life with your sister in law could be weird.

Also, I would recommend saving this thread when it's done - for your own sentiment, so you can look through the opinions and inputs, and also solidarity you have. It's easiest to do with a browser plug in that scrolls through the entire page and screenshots it. I use FireShot for Firefox/Opera.

Keep us updated; we're rooting for you mate.

Regarding the YouTube videos - I wouldn't think much of it. Everyone has weird YouTube sprees once in a while. That's probably all it is.

>>18060778
>Your life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8TvVg56V1o

Also thread theme

>>18070993
>Paying child support because your girlfriend isn't ready for sex yet so soon after giving birth
Jesus Christ, you could've just cheated on her if sex is that important to you. At least that way you wouldn't have to pay child support for the next 18 or however many years.

>>18067453
Actually, women who get c sections tend to have harder recoveries - and longer time before resuming sex - than women who deliver vaginally. But most couples resume sex by the six month mark. If I had to guess, it's both a physical and psychological thing at this point:
1. Fatigue and stress from taking care of the baby.
2. Maybe more importantly, changes to her hormones and body. She may not think she's sexy with the way her body has changed, and she may be afraid that sex will hurt. I can tell you from experience that when I don't feel good about my body, my libido goes way down even when my husband does his best to reassure me that I'm still sexy to him (because I'm not to me) https://www.fitpregnancy.com/parenting/sex-relationships/lost-lovin-feeling
So, what to do? I think her talking to a female doctor will end up being a good thing. It seems like she's made it a big deal in her mind, and it may just take a lot of activation energy to get over that hill. Be patient and loving, and let's all hope that she can work through her depression/stress/fear/whatever it is and make it work for both of you.

>>18068390
This is great advice.

>>18069193
Or 3. Therapist helps her work through her psychological barrier to having sex, because they're experienced at this shit.

>>18071465
>Most couples resume sex by the six month mark
>OP just broke up with his longtime girlfriend who is the mother of his child because it's been 5 months since birth that they haven't had sex
>tfw OP just threw everything away for nothing

>>18067453

because hormones affect the membranes of the vagina and its ability to sufficiently lubricate.

>>18071476

that's what happens when you let a bunch of losers online fill your head with dumb ideas. OP is letting a bunch of 19 year olds tell him to leave a relationship with a newborn because he hasn't had sex in 5 months. mother of god, this guy is not ready to be a father.

>>18059793
delet this

>>18060577
>>18060612
Are you 17 years old? Did you have an unwanted pregnancy?

You sound really immature

>>18059535
You didn't come to this board for advice
You came here for people to pat you on the back that it's a tough break that you haven't gotten laid for a while and that it's totes okay for you to be disloyal now

/thread

>>18066588
I love how people keep writing in the thread that this is something that happens and you keep ignoring it all you want is people verifying your decision to cheat and dump her

Imagine fifteen years in the future your daughter asking you why her parents aren't together and the answer is you wanted sex and didn't get any during the months of her infancy lmao

>>18071662
Its more than just the lack of sex. Read the thread.

>>18071672
You complain about yuh dick this entire thread and that she's acting weird you are in no way fit to be a father if you come online to have a bunch of people under the age of 20 weigh in on your life problems

You complain about this and that but every time somebody in this thread has mentioned something biological or the many many ways a woman can be affected post pregnancy you ignore it looking for the posts that coddle your opinion that you're 100% in the right and she's 100% in the wrong for not getting your dick wet.

You are aware that this kind of stuff is normal for couples and it usually lasts for six months? But you threw your relationship away because of what a bunch of people on the internet who don't even know you have to say.

So yeah, complain about your problems all you want but they aren't unique. It is so rare for a couple to get through post pregnancy smoothly, but you're immediately looking for a justifiable exit. If you told this to other fathers they'd tell you the same thing, you're mentally unfit to be a parent because the first sign of hardship and you're already done.

What are you gonna do during the kid's toddler years? What are you gonna do when they're a teenager? What are you gonna do everytime there's a dry spell in the relationship? Genuinely ponder cheating? Okay. Just remember that things are different in a relationship after having a kid, the next time you come on an internet board trying to justify your bullshit to strangers.

>>18071476
>>18071485
>>18071662

You retards seem to lack reading and comprehension. The sex is only a symptom. She doesn't even want to spend time with him. He comes home from work and instead of spending time with him, she chooses to watch tv despite her being able to easily record it and watch it later.

Apart from that, instead of being transparent about what's troubling her, she keeps avoiding and/or bullshitting him.. For 5 months. Further, she turns the tables and emotionally manipulates him.

Meanwhile, he's continuing to play his part of the family deal, with zero signs of affection from her.

I don't care what you're smoking; that shit is not normal and would take a toll on anyone.

>>18071683
He knows something is wrong with her. He tries to get her to a therapist or a doctor.. And again, she bullshits him. She's not willing to give any reason why.

It's not the sex - he's just being treated like shit/disrespected. Maybe she has a good reason, but she deems it fit to not communicate. He's tried many times to understand/mend, but he's just met with stonewalling.

I agree though that he shouldnt end the relationship. I consider this sort of relationship the same as marriage. And with marriage, you never, ever give up.

>>18071683
Well fuck you too

>>18071668
I never said anything about cheating

>>18071731
I agree with almost everything besides
>And with marriage, you never, ever give up.

Utter bullshit, this is psychological warfare for the past 5 months. Someone doesn't need to be physically abusive to bail out. Women tend to be cruelly cunning when shit goes down, and this leads lability for the partner. Would ditch ASAP. Abort mission.

>>18071683
Just remember, i fart in your general direction prick.

>>18071748
>>18071750
Kudos to you, my anonymous friend. We've all been there in the same or completely different ways.

>>18071757
Wrongly posted. Here the correction:

>>18071748
>>18071750
Don't take those idiots to heart. They didn't make the effort to read through the thread, this is why their input has no value.

OP, I'm really proud of you that you confronted her. Honestly, all the times I give people advice here or in real life but never heed it, and usually want confirmation bias like a broken record. You read through the different opinions and could finally see the frail foundation of inconsistencies in her behavior, how she deprives you of affection while you do your thing, like it never touched you. You came here to know if your accusations were true or if it is an usual part in a post-pregnancy relationship - and even though you were proven of the negative traits, you nonetheless showed backbone and acted on what you think is right all the time, you just need constructive clarification in this matter, took the advice to heart and acted upon your genuine, tormented feelings.

I applaud you, in all sincerety. You're one of the few who go the mile and confront the web of bullshit their actually in. I deeply wish you the best outcome, not just for your family's sake, but also as proof that sincere assertiveness pays off.

Kudos to you, my anonymous friend. We've all been there in the same or completely different ways.

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>>18071758
Every once in a while, this place has a little decency. Much obliged sempai, this post made thread worth it.

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>>18071765
I'm humbled by the fellow people who sticked together and made his life worth to him again.
*sniff* I applaud you guys, I wish I could share a beer with you.

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>>18071782
First round's on me

>>18071765
She's cheating on you because she found out you're gay for this guy >>18071758

Well whaddaya fucking know
She brought me breakfast, cried this morning
Said she loves me wants to talk when she gets home from work.

>>18071903
Dont let her bullshit fool you. She treated you like shit for 5 months and only now wants to "talk to you"? Even if you manage to change things i believe that it wont last for long, so just keep it in mind and dont fall for it.

i want to feel bad for OP but I can't because he just seems retarded.

it's really funny to see him let adv ruin his life and going along with it hook line and sinker

>>18071903
I know you want this too (the talk with her). But be sure to be assertive when you do it. Give 2nd chance if she really mean it. Dont fall for her tears.

Be mindful that she let yoi feek it for 5 whole months, and only wants to talk when you eanna bail out. For me she just scared to lose her provider.

>>18071903
Yo, listen to >>18071907

Don't forget the five months. I bet my left testicle that these are nothing but crocodile tears. I grew up with two elder sisters and obviously a mom, all three manipulative as shit. I know all the ins and outs. If she didn't care for the last five months, then also not now. Be alert. Push her limits, test her affection and I think you'll notice some red flags again.

>>18071903
Careful. Make sure she actually talks and doesn't just cry to make it all go away.

>>18071903
Also, be stoic. Don't give in, or at least don't show it. Keep up your poker face. JUST think about it: Would you come to your partner all crying and sobbing while being "considerate"? Be hard on her, and not the kind you wish to be for the past five months. If she offers for one magical reason sex to make it up, DON'T DO IT! She deprived you of it, and that would be the ace up her sleeve. If she genuinely wants to solve the problem, and have it all talked out, and when you have a good feeling in your guts, then you can reconsider and give in to your libido - but that's and unlikely scenario for all the shit she's pulled off.

>>18071907
>>18071913
>>18071927

Woah there. I'm all for not getting fooled by fake tears, but if she's genuine (she agrees to counseling or actually talks her issues) he should listen.

>>18071946
It is five months of not giving a genuine fuck about him. OP is, or should be, way past the rationalization part. She cannot be trusted. Some of you here are too soft on her. We're talking about a woman who's almost in her 30s, she's not a toddler, neither a teenager with self-esteem issues. If she is like that in this age, sorry bro, but there is no hope anymore.

Just reverse the roles: What's if OP would be woman and the partner a man acting like that? Would you also advise to cut some slack? I think many would say he isn't attracted to the post-pregnancy body or some shit and she should ditch him because it's totally not normal for a man not wanting to fuck.

>>18071955
Yes, I would advise that a woman listen to a genuine appeal from a dude if the roles were reversed. The biggest red flag for me reading this whole thing was that she wouldn't talk about why she is acting this way. No communication is even worse than no sex. If she actually wants to talk, then all may not be lost. Then again, if it all turns out to be more crying without her actually addressing anything, then it's probably beyond repair.

>>18071485
Yep

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>>18071974
No sex means no relationship. No communication means no friendship.

Are you feeding this person? Do you clean up after them?

Can't wait til you all have kids...NOT. I pity your future partners. You are not entitled to sex 24/7, and you need to empathize with a mother who's adjusting to her new reality of a body and hormone swings she doesn't recognize. The key to lifelong sex and good relationships is patient, loving communication. If she cries, which is to be expected NOT because she is manipulative or even wants to cry in that moment, but because she's overwhelmed by fatigue and emotions, y'all have to be patient.

>>18071955
I feel like everyone is acting like she shoves OP off at every turn simply because there is no literal penetration, whereas OP details some forms of intimacy they are obviously still having.

It goes way too far for me to conclude that she "doesn't give a fuck" about OP when she is still pleasuring him in other ways and OP did not mention any other coldness (at least in the OP, not wading through this shitfest of a thread). She gave birth, it's entirely possible that she's deadly afraid of being loose or still has vaginal pain she hides because she hopes it passes and is afraid OP will leave if he realizes there might be a medical issue preventing her from PiV.

This zero tolerance regime gets you nowhere in a loving relationship, if it's gotten that out of hand it's time to break up already not be a nazi.

>>18072090
>No sex means no relationship.
Do you blow your friends? I didn't think so.

>>18072092
>>18072097

I don't understand why people feel they can have any valuable input, if they don't even read the thread.

You are evaluating based off incomplete information. If you can't be bothered to read the whole thread; then do not post.

>>18072147
You can decide for yourself whether the input is valuable or not if you did read the whole thread, or correct/ignore it otherwise, whatever you feel like. I'd agree if this was a ten post thread but I'm not spending half an hour reading everything including all the inane bullshit people add to clutter it up.

>>18072092
>you are not entitled to discussing issues for 5 months
>you need to empathize with a mother who refuses to even talk about issues and evades any form of help
>you are trying for only 5 months dude you are not patient

>>18072152
>im nit spending half an hours reading everything
>im not going to make informed input
>accept my half ass input because eve though i didn't get all the information i can still open my fat mouth
lol shiggy

8 oclock tonight est, she gets home and we have the talk. I'm calmer, and more focused i, this should be interesting.

The dumb posts are amusing, sincere ones i respect, thanks for sticking this out with me anons.

Keep us updated. I'm too invested In this.

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Hey all, I need some legal advice. I was charged with 3rd degree trespassing in a building by the Real Estate Agency. Anyway, I just found out that the Real Estate company that is charging me no longer owns the building where I was 'charged'. Does this change anything at all? My court date is next month and I'm about to call my lawyer and tell him this.

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>>18073214
I'm more invested in this thread than in my own life.

>>18072097
That's what I'm talking about all the time; he shall break up ... like a nazi.

Totally normal stuff OP. Read all the thread. My situation is even worse in that my wife developerld complications from her second pregnancy where she was basically bedridden.

> No sex for 8 months pregnancy and no sex for 4 months after birth
> No BJs or HJs or any other sex because of above.
> I do most of the house work, raising kids and bread winner for the time being.

Get on my level.

With that out of the way, my wife and I communicate about it and she is working hard to recover so that she can raise the children and be intimate again. Your girl isnt communicating.

Forget the sex, you learn not to miss it that much. You are craving comfort and normalcy in your stress of a changed life. Communication is the key and most important thing.

Go see counseling and improve your communication and almost anyrhing can be fixed.

>>18073689
>No sex for 8 months pregnancy
wat

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Probably too late but I would get her off birth control pills and see if that changes anything.

I've heard a lot about how birth control pills fuck up hormones and sex drive...

well we talked..and the same crying, angry immature communication. She blamed our kid for ruining us as a couple
I got beyond pissed and now im done with her bullshit. Cant help or talk to someone who acts like a teenager

>>18073772

Shit OP, really sorry to hear that.

As a last resort, perhaps go yourself to relationship counselling/a therapist, by yourself? Just so you can discuss the relationship and get professional advice for specifically essentially dealing with an obstinate goat. To maybe get other opinions\angles on the situation before really pulling the plug.

Further, once youve gone a couple times and like the therapist/counsellor, it can form a better case for you to convince her to come along. Eg, "The counselor I've been going to is really great; I really think it'll help us - please, just come along?"

>>18071756
I'm sure you got that poster super scared
But it's past your bedtime now Johnny boy

>>18073195
You mean the ones that cater to your opinion?
I've read through this thread and while your problems are valid you completely ignore whenever anybody mentions the fact that pregnancy literally alters a woman's body and mentality??

K then

>>18073689
This
Parent here as well and that's a common problem after having a child.

You're going through what a lot of fathers go through

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>>18073772
Bro, I'm so sorry. Jesus, now she's giving all the fault to her infant daughter? SHE wanted the child, Jesus Christ, that's one manipualtive fallacy after the other. SHE ruined your couple being with her complete lack of communication and addressing of HER problem, let alone her uncaring nature about your feelings.

>>18073980
>As a last resort, perhaps go yourself to relationship counselling/a therapist, by yourself?
Bad idea, from what all he has written this is beyond repair. He cannot fix HER mental problems. This is not how this works. We all heard it a billion times in our lives "The first step of solving the problem, is to admit you have one" - she lacks reflection and is ready to project her wrongdoings to her partner, then to her daughter.

She is not a child! Why do some people sympathize so much with her?

>>18073689
This guy had at least communication. But this is a tremendous discrepancy if someone lacks all courage AND is not willing to communicate, like it is in OPs case.

OPs fiance is hiding something at all cost, so you can be rest assured it is something really, really bad if she shuts herself in, even though it wasn't the case before they got the child.

OP, are there more details about the conversation?

>>18059535
She not cheating but she probably has a guy lined up she wants to cheat with.

Protip: happened to me. Exact same scenario.

Say u want to get seperated, see how sje reacts.

Maybe you're really bad or got a tiny dick. Or she found somebody better and is staying with you for a different reason. You got a kid or something? Only reason I can think of for her to stick around.

>>18074376
>You got a kid or something? Only reason I can think of for her to stick around.

That's it.

>>18074384
Sucks to be you right about now.

>>18067455
>cats
A cat is fine, too.

>>18069876
The birth control is making her a lesbian. Get her off it.

Also, I don't know why y'all had a c section, but you should have had a normal birth if you could have; there's hormones that release that cement love for the child. If she doesn't have those feelings for the child, it could reflect onto you.

>>18072092
>You are not entitled to sex 24/7
But that is wrong.

>>18073772
Lmao dude do you make a decent amount of money? You mentioned earlier she'd be up shit creek if she didn't have your financial support. Perhaps she was planning on using you for child support and a free ride. I'm still reading through the thread though.

>>18074365
Could be this too.

>>18074435
that's the thing. i see op's cunt- i mean gf as a leech. she actually views their daughter as hers more than his.

she also probably doesn't find herself as attractive as she was before. she may be in denial about this and doesn't want the MENTAL nor physical feeling of being plowed like a whore which normal girls like. it makes her feel vulnerable, all naked, allowing a male figure she is close with to take control. it isn't in her anymore. this mutual masturbation bullshit is taking it too far. she is using sex or lack of, as a control tool. she no longer has to do anything in life because of op's resources. she excuses herself without using rational concepts or legit sources for her points. she's being a literal child. she's being a literal princess. this isn't anything new a lot of females are children. it's just that MEN cater to females behaving in such manners, simply because they have vaginas.

op is fucked. he's wasting his money and emotional investment in this relationship. she isn't telling him everything in a systematic form for him to understand entirely. it's a guessing game. agian she is a CHILD. CHILDREN raising CHILDREN.

once they break up that's it. she will tell everyone a skewed perspective while op tells everyone the limited facts he knows. that's how this shit goes. and the baby will grow up being closer to the mom and knowing the mom's side.

the source of these problems is the system with which they live in, and family upbringing. i doubt she wears the same style makeup anymore. i bet she scrubs out a lot. smells more like she's been laying around all day rather than shower clean. etc.

couples need to keep having sex in order to keep the relationship going. if they don't it's just the female being taken care of. 98% of females want to be taken care of like child princesses. that's how they were raised and that's how the system brainwashed them. and that's men catering to them. once again.

Op here, i had today off to take my daughter to dr's appt. My gf comes home she left early saying she was sick, she approached me and i could see she had been crying but like the tears wouldnt fall they were just staying there. She had a real look of grief like she had just lost a loved one. She started sobbing painfully, gutwrenchingly, she groans out how sorry she is, she admits to not trying and not wanting to fix it/blocking me off, she wants to now go see a dr. I tell her this is not normal and that if she wants to be with me we have to both be held accountable or its over.
I do want this to be worked out but im not going to let myself be fooled by nice words or a 180* again on her value of intimacy Especially after what it put me through just to get her to acknowledge this

>>18075030
god what a child. her immune system is low so she is more susceptible to being more emotional. she feels pressured and takes a different angle at all of this. you open up for her and she will soon take advantage of your kindness as a weakness. boom her experiment worked.

>>18059535
do you think it's possible she has some sort of medical issue? like a yeast infection she's not telling you about?

>>18066527
only rapists think they are entitled to sex.

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found op's okcupid.

>>18075073
yeah wtf was that about

>>18075082
Did I stutter, motherfucker?

>>18074872
>she actually views their daughter as hers more than his.

He provided a small sperm. She created the entire body. She's also taking care of the baby. The girl is more hers that it is OP's.

She is cheating on you, OP. Move on.

>>18059598

Just cheat on her or dump her. She has already had her temptation x4 at the least.

>>18075030
Okay, she admitted her misdeeds (finally). But did she explain why she was doing them?

I'm glad you keep your cool and are skeptic about her intentions. Remember, distrust is the best way to truly get to know someone, and she opened now little by little. The results are showing.

>>18075051
Internalize this fucker's words, it may play out like that.

I hope you get an impartial doctor. But what kind of one? Physical or mental/counselor?

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>>18075117
There are too many of them in this thread.

>>18075090
no you just sprayed diarrhea from your mouth hole

>>18075086
Lmao you can see his pube stache from here

>>18059669
>>18059658

THIS.

Decide if your child is worth staying with the devil. If so, prepare material to support your side in the battle for her that will come one day when you split.

If not, split now.

>>18071662
>5 months
>a "while"

>>18059535
On one hand, she isn't meeting your needs, and--if we take you are your word--she is being insensitive when she refuses to validate the very real feelings you have. On the other, your expectations about what her sex drive should be like after giving birth are unrealistic. And she is satisfying you in other ways. If penetrative sex is a problem, can you ask for a compromise maybe, where she jerks you until you are close then you enter her? Is she open to anal intercourse? Would you consider asking her for some concession, like her letting you ejaculate on her face/hair or something else that you would enjoy that is kinky, so that you feel special?

It is normal for women to lose inteterest in sex. It is normal for your interest to remain the same. This causes a lot of conflict in relationships, so it's good practice to work through this incredibly common issue.

Maybe his bitch actually tries to salvage the relationship now.

>>18075422
1.she isnt open to anal
2. When we did oral/foreplay it was only if i brought it up and she would rarely agree that, uninterested/couldnt wait for it to be over.
3.6 months without adressing the issue/only talking when pressed about it

>>18075562
OP, German guy here again.

I didn't make up my mind completely about it until now, but here I have my final advice:
Break up with her. This will lead to misery. Your - and I regret calling her that - fiancé is completely responsible for everything she does. She is responsible for the torment of you, for the deprivation of the physical affection you desired, the deprivation of care, which is due to her lack of interest when you come home and her vile behavior, shown through her (ameteur) manipulation.

She did everything possible to keep you under her thumb, and fortunately for you, you finally lost it and came here due to your unsupportive environment. Where you had nobody, you asked complete strangers what to do in order to get a moral compass for this situation, which I applaud you for.

Some people here are able to see that the mother of your child is a fully responsible adult, therefore is in the utter wrong. There are also opposing people, who defend her actions. But let me tell you this, these people - who are male and female - are probably excusing bullshit behavior from women either all the time or quite frequently because they hold the female sex on a higher pedestal than the male.

When you look a little outside the box, it isn't a healthy environment to let your daughter grow up in. From what I've concluded, if you continue this relationship, you daughter will be exposed constant arguments and vicious behavior from her parents, and I guarantee you it will cripple her personal growth quite tremendously.

I, wholeheartedly, advise you to break up with her and take as much custody of your daughter as you can get, better full. Because if her mother will be under the same roof she will be exposed to her twisted, labile and vile character.

To be continued

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Continuation

You took a moral stance in this relationship and I think if you explore the roots of your poor judgement on to why you got into this toxic relationship and why you have an unsupportive circle of friends, then you will become a great role model for your daughter if you make the changes to find better people in your life.

Take care of yourself, and your future family, with a hopefully better stepmother.

Cheers.

>>18075073
You appear to be mentally challenged.

She's probably going through a shame stage where she wants to feel like a mother, not just your wife.

>>18076011
And decides to not talk to her partner at all for half a year about it.

>>18059535
Everyone ignore the bait. OP left out the most important part which is that the girlfriend gave birth 5 months ago.

>>18076048
Yeah? OP here, the fuck i did. Read before you post

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Tonight im going to see how much she lives up to her word. Idk what will happen, part of me thinks i should i leave the thread for good(less chance of her finding this thread and having ammo against me). But fucked as it is, it took me coming here and wading through all the bullshit to make my stand. As shit as my situation is, I am able to find some humor in my life again reading through this, as well as motivation. I didnt get this far on my own and it'd be ungrateful to leave now.
Everyone you have my humble thanks.

Now it begins Again.

My ex gf quit wanting sex with me. Same excuses for 6 months.

>later, busy, tired, not now, this weekend, I'm just not in the mood

When I finally broke up with her, she gave me the real reason. She said she felt no emotional connection during sex, and it left her feeling empty and disgusting. Of course, I asked all the time why she didn't want to have sex, but she never said that until we broke up. I would assume that she was just saying that to make it my fault, but my last girlfriend told me the exact same thing, and to be honest, I don't feel anything emotionally during sex either. It sucks and I don't like it, but that's how it is, for now. Maybe it could be that?

>>18076341
You Dont feel any emotion through skin to skin intimacy?
Idk alot but i know that isn't normal if you are doing it with someone you love.
Sex can be purely physical without emotions but to say it never creates any emotion when your dating someone is strange.

>>18076384
I know it's weird. I had a really fucked childhood. I was in daycare as an infant. Locked in my room for weeks at a time. Told I was worthless, emotional incest with my mom. She made me take baths with her until I was like 10, and asked my opinion on shaving her private areas. Made inappropriate comments about me sexually. So the whole intimacy thing is really fucked for me. I hate it. When I smoke weed I can actually feel emotion and connection. But I've only smoked a few times, and I've had a couple psychotic episodes on weed so i don't smoke. I hate it. Wish i was normal.

>>18076399
>>18073689

OP... let this sink in for a second.

These posters I tagged here have REAL problems. Fuck you get to enjoy mutual masturbation with her and sometimes a bj.

And yes if you just go to counseling and talk through her shit, she will want to have sex again. This is all normal man.

Man up.

>>18076459
I'm >>18076399
His situation isnt normal. Decrease in sexual activity after childbirth is normal, but the fact that she refuses to talk, see a doctor or counselor is not normal. She would wather watch TV than spend time with him. When he brings that up she stonewalls him. It's like his feelings mean nothing to her.

Then the kicker is after he breaks up with her, she suddenly wants to "work on it", like OP has been begging for the past 5 months. I hate to jump to conclusions, but in my mind, she is more worried about the logistics of her new single life, than any actual relationship with OP, because if she wanted that, she would have been trying and putting forward the intitiative herself a long time ago.

>>18076478
pretty much that sums it up

>>18076399
Op here, I wish i was just making this up, when i was a kid i was molested too by my older step brother, i was too young to understand and while it ruined alot of me as a kid. I've always had this internal resolve of knowing, suffering was what lit the fire under my ass to make a better life for myself. Worst part was nobody believed me when i spoke up. Im sorry to hear you went through that too. About weed its the same for me emotion/connection. Id suggest seeing a pro medical dr and get a card. They have edibles,oils, different strands/hybrids/sativa/indicas/ specifically for any ailments. Finding a good strain and dose sounds like your issue anon. Did u get ur buds that caused the pyschotic eps off the street. People will spray all kinds of chemicals and lace dirt weed to push it easier

>>18071758
Last night while reading through op's confrontation post i fucking applauded at midnight here in brazil, you're right, seems like /adv/ is full of mental-problems/complex persons(MOSTLY WOMAN) who project their shitty feelings onto fucking anybody who isn't in their agenda, wich is just disgusting, but again, good on you op, fuckin good on you to start taking the steps that will bring chaos to make order.

>>18075890
>>18075898
listen to germanfag

>>18076459
>>18073689
>>18074365
>>18075117
>>18075073
>>18066527
example of /cucks/fail women taking your gf's side of the history only because they're the scum of the society and want it to perish with them.


You can actually see through her bullshit the moment she activates "emotional manipulation mode", wich you will know because she starts to appealing to any sort of emotional trick up her sleeve to continue to avoid problems, "make some time".
She doesn't say anything because she knows that if she did it would compromise (even more) the relationship, maybe she is worried about going to a dr. and getting called out on her bs.
You gf has a cave of emotional problems, she doesn't want to go there for nothing and will do anything to avoid being exposed to her true feelings, even ASKING YOU TO HAVE ANOTHER CHILDREN.
OP, you have to realise this. Your girl, just like you, is getting insane in this relationship, but the difference between you two is that she is getting something out of it.
Like some people said in this thread, you should not expect her to change because the problems are rooted on the very foundation of the relationship.
Treat her as an equal (piece of shit), do not give her the benefit of the doubt, be skeptical, don't let her manipulate you, if the feelings of warmth, hapiness and love are gone, if the thorough manifestation of each party's thoughts doesn't happen in a relationship, then there's no reason for a relationship at all, you'll just be digging through a pathological path.

>>18077441
>>18077536 here
I can relate to what you sayin op, this also happened to me in the past, and for long time it got me fucked mentally, wich also happened to my brother, leading him to have unprotected sex with a common whore, then marrying her, just to have their sex drive slowly descending, to the point where she started going out with other man, while he provided for her being a wagecuck/cuck, their kid is four now, there's no hope for the ones who can't face their problems and move on. be different op, take that kid and get the fuck out of this relationship that is leeching your energies and go make yourself happy.

Some depressing as fuck shit in this thread. Makes me not want children with a real woman. If I could just dump my cum in a some robot womb id be happy to oblige if there were no repercussions.

OP, I read the whole thread. It seems like your girlfriend does not care for you so much, is emotionally unstable and cold because she (probably) resents having had a child and now being stuck with you and child for the rest of her life. This is very toxic and you should break up.

HOWEVER it can also be that she is suffering from mental illness i.e. post-birth depression or some other kind of depression. If that is the case you should be there for her because then she is just a victim of a disease instead of responsible for it. But mental illness in this case is not very likely.

But to be honest it seems like you never truly loved and trusted her. You are together 3 years and you had an unwanted child, and now it seems like you both want to get out of it because you both realize you dont actually love each other so much that you can stay with each other forever. The fact that you think she cheated proves that.

You made this thread to justify you leaving her and her child (because let's face it: you're not gonna see the child so much after this), to escape the responsibility of being a father. Of course on 4chan, which is mostly infested with young insecure adolescents, is gonna tell you that it's all her fault and you should be alpha redpill and dump her or whatevs, thus escaping responsibility once more. The same goes for your gf, who wants to escape the responsibility of being in a family with you and her daughter. You are both selfish people trying to escape the responsibilities of life. You took it too lightly. The condom broke, she wanted to keep it, what could possibly go wrong? Then life hit you pretty hard in the face. You deserve this. Own up to it. You are responsible for this whole situation, you and your gf.

So in the end your daughter is really the only victim here and that is sad. Your selfishness caused for her to come from some broken family. In 16 years she will be sucking nigger dick under the boardwalk. Was it worth it?

Peace.

>>18077708
He never once mentioned to ditch his daughter. And granted, they aren't married, so custody law can be more on his side.

And your mentality here doesn't add up:
>which is mostly infested with young insecure adolescents, is gonna tell you that it's all her fault and you should be alpha redpill
>In 16 years she will be sucking nigger dick under the boardwalk. Was it worth it?

top kek

>>18077727
Of course, because he is deluding himself in believing he does it for her. He didn't want to keep the baby from the start, she was just born because his gf wanted it.

>>18077727
>And your mentality here doesn't add up:
Yes and that is also the joke.

>>18077733
Got me. You have a good point. I mentioned their relationship didn't have a stable foundation to begin with, but that's one more thing to consider.
What do you think he could do at this point though?

>>18077735
I didn't laugh.

Ded thread

I read the entire thread. You're both fucking awful people, and the person who I feel most sorry for is your daughter. It's going to be awful to have to go through life with two giant children as parents.

First off, I knew there was a problem the moment you framed your problem as being yours. The issue wasn't that your gf lost her sex drive. It was that you weren't getting your dick wet.

You have a problem with her? You should have said spoken your goddamn mind, like a fucking adult the first time. Yes, she should have made an effort to be more affectionate, and talk about what's changed lately, but who knows. Maybe she resents you as much as you resent her because all you do is try to find ways to get her to fuck you, and she can see right through it. I don't know.

You've been in this relationship for three years, and the topic of the importance of sex hasn't come up? You've been having a sexual relationship with a person, but haven't discussed the future of your sex with her? Clearly, you think it's more important than she does, so it makes me wonder what else you're doing, flying by the seat of your pants, waiting until the problem actually comes up before talking about it.

Like, holy fucking shit. You had a fucking child with this person, and you just NOW had the conversation about how to be parents? You just told her that a child deserves a mother that loves and appreciates and comforts their father. Now? Five months after you had a kid with this woman? How the hell can you be this irresponsible?

Clearly, you two are either incompatible, and went three years without actually getting to know each other, because you're massively shallow and retarded, or that one, possibly both, of you are incredibly immature.

I don't know who's in the wrong here, but what I do know is that you shouldn't have had that child in the first place, because you're both children, or niggers. I can't tell.

>>18078674
>be you
>escape /r9k/
>get on high horse
>make this post
top zozzles

>>18078676
>lol, I said he was from /r9k/ XD

>>18078598
No it's not, OP here, just having a laugh at what some people have to say about me.
The thread just has some autism running rampant atm

>>18078705
How old are you?

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>>18078715
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>>18078674
>because you're both children, or niggers
LOWL TOP KEK

Some people, I tell ya ...

Any updates, OP?

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>>18078813
Well, we had left the baby w/ grandparents we went out for fancy italian dinner, came home, the bedroom already Had rose pedals fucking everywhere(i just had to vacuum up all that shit), candles were all lit up, she took off her dress, she was wearing some clearly new black lingerie, gave me a rolled up joint and started blowing me for an hour, we started having sex but it was getting too painful for her, so she let me put it in her ass after some wine and tokes. I BEAST fucked her butt hard AF. she came least a dozen times. We've never done anal or had rough sex like that before. It was mind shattering toe numbing bliss. I know me and her have only begun this road to recovering our sex life and Today, as good as it turned out, could be this is all so recent, this could be another ploy but i honestly dont know(if it is, i got what i wanted). Its too early to see if this will stay as it is or we will eventually fall into our old ways.

>Smoking a cigarrete and i feel Fantastic

>>18079307
>too painful for her

Wait what? There *is* something wrong with her medically?!

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>she let me put it in her ass after some wine and tokes
>I BEAST fucked her butt hard AF

>>18059535
Everyone ignore the bait. OP left out the most important part which is that the girlfriend gave birth 5 months ago.

>>18079307
>beast fuck her ass when she never did anal before
Either you are full of shit or she has done it before.

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>>18079307
That's one of the worst outcomes I could've imagined. Granted, I figured your sex-deprivation would lead to that. Does it satisfy you short term? Holy fuck, obviously, of course. Long term? NO!

God, my hopes are shattered. I know you wrote you'll see how it will work, but the fact that you are completely willing to ignore the last five months of emotional dry anal rape ... this, man, it was good knowing you.

*sniff* Another brother from another mother has fallen.

>>18079307
This could not be OP guys. Incase it is, keep >>18071907 in mind, always.

>>18080460
I cannot believe either it is OP. But I have a bad feeling that it is him. All the shit-taking of six months underpins his quick rationalizations here. The story is so cliché, but the small details here and there make it real.

RIP in pieces, you poor motherfucker

>>18079782
>>18079363
Ayyy OP was just get cucked all along. Mystery solved.