Did I fuck everything up?

>>18049575

My personal policy is that I do not share my phone access, emails, or any other passworded information with my SO. If someone has a problem with that, they can kindly not date me. I don't want to see their private information too.

A relationship should be founded on trust, communication, and a reasonably clear idea of who the other person is hanging out with, or what they're doing, so there can be a discussion if it's not something that makes the other comfortable.

Sharing passwords or complete access to conversations that the other person does not have any context to is nothing but a disaster that creates a ton of doubt and unneeded conflict.

>>18049575
>but I'm Italian
gib lasagna pls

>>18049587
When I decided to make him see he wanted to control even my Skype calls... I don't know why he doesn't trust me, I truly love him and I would never cheat on him..

I agree there should be no need for access to personal info. However the fact you refused to show him... go to the toilet (wirh your phone) then come out and change your mind is suspect behaviour. Regardless of whether or not youre innocent he no doubt has less trust Iin you.

There is clearly something on your phone you know there shouldnt be otherwise you would have let him look. You dont need to give up your passwords to put your partners mind at ease.

Personaly id have dumped or cheated on you out of spite... cause im a cunt.

>GF gets mad when she sees my search I didn't clear for twerk videos one time
>GF also gets mad when I see her sexting guys on her phone that she didn't delete one time

c'est la vie

>>18049630
There wasn't anything to hide, but I wanted him to trust me. We were best friends before being a couple so I assumed he trusted me.
I changed my mind because when I came back I saw his face and I was about to cry... I don't want to hurt him but I need him to have trust even because we have a distance relationship..

>>18049642
Wow that's terrible o;
My bf is allowed to watch porns, I only want that he doesn't do it in front of me ahaha

>>18049647
But ask yourself, why should a man trust a woman?

>>18049575

Wow your bf is really insecure.

But if you want him to trust you theres an easy way to do it: Tell him about all the guys that were hitting on you. Joke how pathetic their attemps were.

We play videogames together so he knows if I'm having any beta orbiter, I think he's jealous of a French guy that I met on a mmo, but I talk with him because I study French at university and I need to improve my speaking skills lol...
Maybe I should introduce each other to make him feel quiet?
Yes he's pretty insicure and I don't know why because he's great

Joke's on him, he can't read the texts from all of her Italian side dudes anyway.

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>>18049659
"Because women said so"
-every single woman and the lower half of males

>>18049686
TwT i talk about university and mmos, it wouldn't be interesting anyways ahahah

>>18049630

>There is clearly something on your phone you know there shouldnt be otherwise you would have let him look.

No, see, this is bullshit. Because he wants to scroll through her phone, it's ALREADY a witch hunt. He's looking for something to prove his already intense lack of trust - so he's going to take a joke, sideways comment, or something that alludes to her past, and throw an absolute fit. It's what people do.

>>18049698
>any investigation at all is a "witch hunt"
>any cause for concern is a cause for trench warfare, because fuck being scrutinized ever

Ever wonder why you're so damned hard to trust?

I don't know... I've never lied to him, I don't deserve this treatment

>refusal to share your extremely personal belongings means you fucked up
Him asking to see your phone means he doesn't trust you.
If he really got upset when you refused, he's a child.

>>18049718
He's not a child, he's just insicure and I made him doubt that I was hiding something... I'm a jerk

Sup /adv/, BF of the op here. Never show 4chan to your gf, you sick fucks are dangerous (love ya'll).
Everything is fine she's overreacting, i totally trust her <3

>>18049706
>not wanting to let your boyfriend scroll through everything on your phone means you're hard to trust
Fuck people who don't realize a phone is a very personal thing to people in this day and age.

>>18049727
NO WTF WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE

Thank you all anyway :)

>>18049730
>my 300 contacts are off limits
>my 3-hour personal conversations with strangers are off limits

The institution of family doesn't need anymore nails in its coffin.

>>18049730
Suspect behaviour to get so upset about your partner looking at what you get up to "privately" if youre in a relationship and you plan on spending the rest of your life with this person or have given them that idea then there is no privacy. You are collectivly one.

Like i said if you need to hide your phone for "privacy" and "trust" youre no doubt worried that your activity isnt going to gel well with tour partner

>>18049616
Your relationship will end in disaster, he will need several more to stop being a controlling insecure cunt, or he might never. Just leave him now, you will break up with him later, i 100% guarantee it, remember this post when you do.

>>18050059
>how dare you question my random weekends with other dudes

Women never gave one tenth as much trust as they all seem to expect.

>>18049698
No, actually you're bullshit. He probably didn't want to actually look through he'd phone because who the fuck has time for that. He just wanted to know she would let him. That in itself erases pretty much all doubt. It's a subtlety shifty dishonest cunts who like to hide shit from their SO's never seem to grasp.

I would just get the free shit then dump his ass

>>18049706

I've never had someone accuse me of being hard to trust in a relationship before. I've had a relationship end because of my own personal jealousy, and I had to look long and hard at what drove that person into someone else's arms. It was not trusting them to let them be their own person, to manage their own relationships. The reason I'm so against sharing my own information is because I've seen how much its torn apart the relationship with my mom and dad. She expects full access to his shit, or for him to immediately hand over his phone when she's "just checking," so of course, not only is she not trusting him not to cheat, but then she's reading through private conversations between him and I, reading them out of context, and then he gets in trouble because something must be up with me.

This shit isn't all just relationships, there's a ton of complexity to maintaining your privacy. I may not want my girlfriend to know my dad is an alcoholic, I may not want her to know my cousin is in jail for molesting a kid, just that "we don't talk to him."

That's my right, and it doesn't shed just because someone's worried I'm pumping and dumping someone else behind their back.

>>18050073
See above, again. It's not about having nothing to hide, it's that some shit is just none of your partner's business unless you want it to be.

>>18050109
>complete trust and honesty in a relationship
>"that's none of your business"

Choose one and only one. The issue with your parents was not privacy it was your mother's lack of respect for your father.

How it us supposed to work is, everything is open and the other person CHOOSES to respect the other persons privacy. Not you deliberately keeping shit away from them because you decided it's "not their business" while at the same time demanding trust from them. As long as things are off limits there is not a full trust between you.

>>18050124

I never said complete trust and honesty was an expectation. That's a bullshit expectation by people that want to be blind to reality. People don't share everything with each other, boo hoo, but that's life.

Like I've already said, I don't WANT my partner's information, and people that do, are generally inherently being immediately untrusting. Things deserve to be off-limits. You're not a hive mind just because you're fucking. This is why relationships crash and burn so often, because people have been taught that you're suddenly supposed to be this perfect harmonious match, and that nothing can ever go wrong, and that you're permanently going to be completely in sync on what's going on in someone's head.

So unhealthy.

>>18050157
Obviously this only applies to serious relationships, not fuckbuddies.

I would never marry someone who threw a hissy fit over me looking at their phone.


Also like I said before, you completely miss the point which is too subtle for you to grasp.

>>18050167

I'm talking serious relationships too, not "fuckbuddies."

I don't know what you define as fuckbuddy, but that's someone you barely have a connection with, not a boyfriend or girlfriend. Marriage isn't the delineating factor here.

I would never marry, or be in a relationship with, someone who felt it was their right to dig through my things. Odds are I'd leave my phone sitting there on the counter for all to see, since I don't have anything to hide, but that's a lot different than the OP's situation, where her boyfriend demanded to see the phone (on Valentine's Day, no less), and then threw a tantrum after she said no/went to the bathroom.

I think you're the one that completely misses the point, and are just insecure.

>>18050186
I know you do, because you can't understand what I'm talking about. I've never asked my partner to let me see their stuff nor would I want to, but if they asked that of me, I'd hand it over without throwing a conniption and ask questions later. Because I trust if they would ask that of me they'd have a good reason. And there's nothing I feel the need to hide from them.
>Y-youre insecure
You're projecting because you cannot even grasp the point. Stull rambling on about people having the "right to dig through my things" when that has nothing to do with what I'm saying.

>>18050204

You can't seem to understand my point, in that it's a slippery slope.

Handing your phone over when they ask is a slippery slope. It goes from handing it over once in a blue moon, to them knowing you're going to hand it over whenever, to them insisting they have your passwords and now reading it whenever they want. And this kind of thing takes research, it's not just a matter of "who are you texting right now," but a matter of going through maybe hundreds to thousands of texts and emails, especially on my end.

I'm not projecting, you're just failing to realize that you can quickly become held hostage by this kind of thing, especially if you have a jealous and possessive boyfriend, like OP has described her boyfriend as.

>>18050282
"slippery slope"
...is poor wording for what goes on in anything would describe a 'slippery slope.' It's more of a giant ratchet, which turns in one direction then locks into place with each click.

>>18050282
>Handing your phone over when they ask is a slippery slope
No it isn't. That's why I sad "ask questions later." That is when you get to the bottom of why they felt to need the ask in the first place. But you don't get defensive and sanctimonious about it, feeding into their insecurity and making yourself look more suspicious to them for no reason. Whatever their problem is, driving them feel the need to look through your stuff, you address it directly and talk it out and then you hope it doesn't happen again in the future.

But it's up to you to judge their behavior of whether it's becoming a pattern or they are trying to be controlling. Everyone feels insecure or worried about what their SO is doing they don't know about sometimes. So try having some fucking empathy if it's someone you supposedly love.

>>18050109
>>18050282
>>18050186
Hahaha.
If your phone and its contents being kept secret are worth more than your relationship youve got some serious growing up to do. Its not only pathetic its sad.
Good luck with your future ad i dont need a psychic to predict your failing and lonely life.

And i would say good luck to your family but they sound just as pathetic as you.

But hey atleast youve got your secrets. And you have that pedo cousin to hang out with.

>>18050311

"Ask questions later" is too late when they've already "found" what they're desperate to find, which is some kind of evidence that you're not telling them the whole truth.

The only exception I can see to this is if you really don't talk to anyone, and your phone or other accounts are 100% squeaky clean. I guess I know some couples that don't do anything besides spend time with each other and go to work, but still.

I'll admit that my life is a little different... I work in marketing in Las Vegas, and I'm out and about with a lot of people doing different things, where someone can suspect that I'm getting into the absolute worst. I need someone who is going to be SUPER relaxed about the fact that a bunch of shit is going to show up in my phone that doesn't imply that I'm being unfaithful. I haven't ever been in my life.

>>18050341

Again, I've had a successful and not-lonely love life.

I just don't base my entire self-worth on a desperate obsession with getting cheated on... but I guess I should expect that from a Portuguese laundry enthusiast webring that says the word cuck every 3rd post.

>>18050367
They won't find evidence if there's nothing for them to find. If they're making something out of nothing they will be made aware.

See, this is only going to be a problem if you're actually doing shady or suspicious shit, which, evidently you are. So thanks for proving me right all along.

If you can't openly sharebthings why be in a relationship?
why was it a problem for him to look?
And why are you with someone you not comfortable sharing every aspect of your life with?

The question you need to ask yourself is if you have nothing to hide, why can't you share it with the person you should be closest with?

This to me.looks like your in a very new relationship or you are in it for all the wrong reasons and it will never last

>>18050379

I have no reason to lie to you. I haven't done anything shady. I don't want to share 100% of myself with someone. I'm happy to share most of it, and love someone very deeply, but that doesn't mean I want them reading my conversation about my friend struggling with his relationship and potentially losing his kid. I don't want to share the story about the time I banged a girl in front of my friends 12 years ago. Or how I spent an entire summer crying like a bitch in front of my computer when I was 15 because I was depressed.

All of these things are conversations I've had in the past 4 days via text message, that I wouldn't want my girlfriend to see. That's not "hiding something," it's none of her business.

>>18050438
> will tell others
>won't tell significant other
What sort of relationship do you call that. Why hide yourself from a partner, means you'll have to watch who you tell what all your life so your lover doesn't find out, that sounds like hiding something to Me

>>18049575
Do you really want to marry someone who you have been fighting for with 3 years to keep them away from other people, their ex? the first thing they will do is cheat on you just after marriage.
Also it sounds like he is projecting. I wouldn't be surprised if he has cheated or will cheat on you in the future.

>>18050438
>That's not "hiding something,"
lmao yes it is

>I'll text about any random shit I claim I don't want to share with other people, but my gf can't find out about it
>I'm not hiding anything though

Talking about when you were depressed as a kid or sex anecdotes from a decade ago are exactly the kind of shit there shouldn't be a problem sharing with your SO. You either don't know each other very well, you're not serious about her, or, you're just a paranoid, dishonest little fucker like I thought. I'm guessing you're always putting on some kind of front or facade around her and she has no idea about the real you, which only your little friends you're always texting to know about.

Either way if this is the kind of mindset you're going to keep, you and your relationships are fucked, son.

>>18050448

I just mentioned three very specific instances that my girlfriend does not need to know about, that I tell no one, besides the people involved. She doesn't need to know why my friend's relationship is crumbling. They're not close, he wouldn't tell her himself, and I don't need her help or advice in supporting him.

I had sex with a girl in college, and my friends saw, and occasionally laugh about it in a group text. Again, not something she needs to know. She knows I'm not a virgin.

She also doesn't need to know about my period of hormonal angst as a kid. I'm an adult now, and that has nothing to do with current me.

Again, none of her business.

>>18050485
No one is asking you to tell her these things unsolicited but if this is the kind of shit you would go out of your way to hide, and is worth ending a relationship over, your priorities are way the fuck out of line.

>>18050473

>I have a girlfriend so it's exactly time to spill every embarrassing moment of my life
>my friends roast each other at any time so I'd better let her read all of the stupid things I've ever done, and they've ever done or else it's not a real relationship or I have something to hide

A relationship doesn't unlock Pandora's box to everything you and your friends have ever done. You share the important stuff, the damning stuff, the things that shaped you. Not your friends' issues and the kind of shit you did before you grew up.

>>18050507
We're not talking about spilling everything. We're talking about your being so adamant about hiding such fucking inane retarded "secrets" like "I fucked a girl in college and my friends laugh about it" that you feel that keeping that a secret from your gf or wife forever is more important than your relationship with her.

But you keep trying to change the subject.

>>18050490

It's not hidden, it's just something someone will see if they decide they need to investigate my phone at any given time... because asking to see someone's phone out of distrust means they're going to dig.

My girlfriend can have my phone if it's like "let's google something," but not for "I don't trust you and need to review your messages."

>>18050519
You wouldn't let your gf borrow your phone to Google something. Be fucking honest for once in your life.

>What do you need? I'll look it up for you

You're a cunt lmao

Well then enjoy your loveless sex partner, what you describe is not a relationship but instead people who sleep together exclusively.
Is being in a relationship not about finding someone you want and I stress WANT to share your life with? If not what's the point.
Sure you don't have to tell your partner anything, but what does that show about your relationship, sure some things are personal but shouldn't you want to be with someone who knows and accepts you as a whole, and not just the bit of you you currently are? If you can't share your past with your partner what chance do you have in the future
>this generation is doomed to be insecure because they lack an understanding of love

>>18050532

Do you share every detail of your friends' lives with every girlfriend you have? If your friend asks you to keep something private, does it mean they totally think "oh just keep it between you and your girl?"

If I got married, it might be relevant to share my stupid depression as a teenager. It might be worth sharing every person I had sex with, or every stupid decision I've ever made... but I still doubt it.

This thread is about a boyfriend and girlfriend, not being married.

I have to go for a bit but I'll come back tonight if anyone cares.

>>18049647
Do you want him to trust you but you do not trust him to see your phone? Trust must be mutual...

>>18050575
Well no. Nobody cares. Its just funny how selfishly self centred you are. So by all means please comback for kekkers sake

>>18050575
>not guarding your phone and it's contents like a starved dog guarding a putrid scrap of meat whenever your girlfriend starts sniffing around it means you have to tell her everything you and your friends ever did in your entire life

you are one confused faggot

Fact: You should only ever date your soulmate, your one true love.

If you are "dating" someone and you don't intend to share everything with them, get married, have kids, and grow old and die together then you are wasting your fucking time, and theirs.

This whole casual dating thing people seem to get up to these days is so fucked up..
You lazy fucks just was easy access to sex on the regular.

So if you're "with" someone, but you aren't really in love, then of course you're gonna wanna keep secrets from them and not be open about every facet of your life.

My wife knows my phone password, but there isn't a thing in there that would be news to her because she would already know every detail via conversation, so she has no need to look.
You sneaky fucks who keep secrets will never understand this kind of openness.

The thing that really pisses me off is when you sneaky fucks throw around the word "privacy", when you really mean "secrecy".

Privacy is taking a shit with the bathroom door closed, not keeping someone (the person you're supposed to be closest with in this world) from knowing about your actions and conversations.

My wife deserves to know about my life. She gets to know what I do in a day. Who I hang out with, who I talk to, what we say, etc..
We are complete open books to eachother, and our whole friend circle knows that any secret they tell her I'm gonna hear about it too, and visa versa.

I pity you retards who don't have that kind of bond with someone yet insist that you're "in love"

>millennial faggots will tell me I'm wrong

>>18050710
i'm a millennial (an older one though) but, hear fucking hear

>>18050710

"dating" is the process of finding out if that one is THE one. idiot.

>>18050723
First impressions take about 7 seconds

I went on dates with women before I met my wife. Took about 2 or 3 dates to know they weren't my soulmate.

Trust me, when you meet the one, something just clicks and you feel it stronger than anything you've ever felt before.
And the universe pushes you together like a fucking North and South pole.

And believe me, you actually want to share everything with th is person when you find them.

So I'll say it again, having a boyfriend/girlfriend who isn't your one person, who you don't intend to spend forever with, is a WASTE of your fucking time, and theirs.

Idiot

>>18050746

im married, honey. 2 or 3 dates? youre just impulsive. it takes at least 3 months to start to know someone, and years before you really know them.

>>18050710
Comments like this make me so glad I'm an actual goddamned adult

>>18050750
he said it takes 2 to 3 dates to know they're NOT the one and move on

try reading comprehension sometime

Honest person
>partner wants to chexk phone
>sure.jpg

Guilty person
>partner wants to check phone
>b-but what about uhm... TRUST!

y

>>18050755

youre a fucking worthless trash moron, did you know that?

sure, you might know that you dont like someone after 2 or 3 dates. what you WONT know is whether or not they are THE ONE YOU WANT TO BE WITH FOR THE REST OF YOUR FUCKING LIFE. jesus fucking christ. date as long as you need to to make sure youre not marrying a fucking closet psycho. weeding out obvious baddies is not fucking hard. weeding out people who just dont quite make the cut is harder. learn to fucking live you troll

>>18050710
>he actually believes in the concept of a soulmate.

>>18050795
How many dudes are you flirting with behind your husbands back sweetie?

>>18050750
I'm far from impulsive, stop projecting, what did you do settle down with the first guy who could stand your ass for more than a year?

I knew my wife for 8 years before we started dating. We were best friends before we ever became a couple.
And we knew we wanted to be together for the rest of our lives. To the point that we hope we live to 90, and both die in our sleep on the exact same night.

Did you and your husband have a nice valentines day?

>>18050795
>sure, you might know that you dont like someone after 2 or 3 dates. what you WONT know is whether or not they are THE ONE YOU WANT TO BE WITH FOR THE REST OF YOUR FUCKING LIFE
and no one said you would know if they are the one after 3 days. he said you will know they are NOT the one.
you would know that if you had two fucking brain cells to rub together to understand the post you replied to

or are you seriously implying someone you don't want to bother going on a 3rd date with because you don't like them is actually the person you would want to spend the rest of your life with but you just don't know it? explain how that works.

>>18050809
>>18050832

im a man, you fucking idiots.

>I knew my wife for 8 years before we started dating. We were best friends before we ever became a couple.

8 years is enough time to get to know someone. 3 dates is not.

>>18050807
>he doesn't
I would weep for you anon, if I cared for you.
I hope today wasn't too rough on ya buddy

>>18050837
3 dates is enough to know if you don't care if you never see that person again. In that case the person obviously isn't your future spouse or soulmate.

Why are you so fucking stupid? Or are you just ESL or something?

>>18050837
Oh

That "honey" comment really threw me, didn't seem very masculine.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that when you meet the one, you fucking know it. Your souls are literally drawn together.

>>18050847

jfc, its like you cant even think

so, after 3 dates you still like the person. think they might be the one. do you propose, now? I mean, its been THREE WHOLE DATES. surely, the baddies have been weeded out.

whats that? 3 dates isnt enough to warrant a proposal? you mean youll have to *gasp* DATE THEM for a few months, just to make sure?

idiot

>>18050857
no, it's like you can't even read

>Took about 2 or 3 dates to know they weren't my soulmate.

>WEREN'T

You know if there is no long-term potential after 3 dates. That's all anon was saying. But you're so fucking retarded you literally took the opposite meaning from it.

>>18050857
Idiot
If you want to date someone for years before marriage that's perfectly fine, take all the time you need to feel ready for it.

What I'm saying is that it takes all of about 3 seconds to feel that soulmate connection.
When you find that person, date them for as long as you please, get married however suits you both, have as many kids as you want/can afford.

But if you go out with someone and you don't feel that connection, that unmistakable bond, that universal force that is real love... Then stop dating that person.
Because you are WASTING YOUR MOTHER FUCKING TIME WITH THEM, AND THEIR TIME.

Don't just casually date someone for a year just cause you "kinda like them and don't think they're bad"
But hey I get it, the sex is easier and waiting around to find your soulmate is hard.

Fucking kids these days man...

>>18050866

what anon actually said:

>If you are "dating" someone and you don't intend to share everything with them, get married, have kids, and grow old and die together then you are wasting your fucking time, and theirs.

you just cant know that after 2 or 3 dates. yes, you can weed out baddies. you lost context of the conversation and now its just embarrassing how wrong you are. time to BTFO snowflake

>>18050855

"honey" is what i call my daughter when i have to lecture her

>>18050887

no such thing as "soulmate connection"

sometimes you jump in to something and it works out

for most guys, you have to make ABSOLUTE sure before you put a ring on it.

im not saying to stick in it if there is no fire

but fire isnt everything.

>>18050889
>what anon actually said:
I quoted his words verbatim. He actually said...exactly what I said.

>you just cant know that after 2 or 3 dates
he never said you could.

i really can't tell if you're a troll or are actually illiterate. it's sad.

>>18050889
Is your wife for soulmate?
And how did you not know it immediately?

I hope you're not one of those unfortunate souls that married some chick he knocked up by accident. Cause if so you're just a future divorce statistic.

>>18050894
Hahahaha, yeah man it actually is a real thing...
Sounds like you settled for the warm hole you had easy access too.

Good luck bro, I hope your daughter makes it to 18 before your wife who isn't your soulmate leaves you, otherwise she'll be alllll kinds of fucked up. (daddy issues, feminism, etc..)

>>18050894
Oh and no hard feelings m8, I don't mean to sound harsh.
I truly hope you meet your soulmate one day. Not everyone is lucky enough.
Maybe your second marriage will be the real deal

when i first met my boyfriend i thought he was a girl. but somehow i still fell so fucking hard in love it didn't even matter. literally i was like "welp, guess i'm gay now if it means i can make this person mine forever"

so i believe in this soulmate shit

>>18050898

bye felicia

>>18050902

soulmate is a disney word. are my wife and i compatible? yes. do i trust her with my life, and my child's life? yes. is she literally the only woman in the world that i could have been compatible with? no. there are over 3 billion women in the world. the odds that any 1 is your one and only soulmate is low, to the point where the whole idea is nonsense. there are many women in the world who could fulfill my desire of the ideal mate: my wife was lucky to be the first that I found ;)

>>18050905

again, soulmate is just a disney word.

>>18050926
>my wife was lucky
now we know you're a retarded troll

>>18050929

jfc, do the rest of you really hate yourselves that much?

>>18050934
not as much as you hate the warm hole you're bound to by law and a child, i mean, "wife" lmao

>>18050942

say what you want about me, but talk about my wife or daughter like that again and i swear to god im going to send some VERY nasty memes your way

>>18050953
i don't think i could shit on your wife worse than you just did saying she's nothing special just the first person dumb enough to actually stick around with you and let you knock her up

you're fucking savage

>>18050926
Wrong, soulmates are real, and so are souls.
Yunno, that unexplainable energy inside of every human that makes us tick, makes us more than just a beast.

You inherited that energy, is been around for eons.
Energy can neither be created, nor destroyed. Simply transfered.
And when your body dies, that energy will leave you and find a new vessel.

Now, my wife is my soulmate because our souls are bound to eachother, to travel through this universe together for all eternity.
In the life before this one my soul was with hers, and the one before that, and the one before that, and on and on...
And when her and I die, our souls will find eachother again, it's inevitable.

I'm sorry for you anon, that you won't ever have that kind of bond.
But hey, at least you found a compatible ideal mate, lucky gal indeed.

>>18050957

frankly, you dont understand the human condition

>>18050965

OH, i see now, you believe in sky magic

>>18050971
I don't believe in a god of that's what you're implying. I believe in energy.

Are you seriously saying you don't think humans (and plenty of animals) have souls?

>>18050971
>the human condition
what? wasting your life raising a little cunt whose mother you resent?

keep telling yourself that

>>18050982

im sorry, did the phrase "sky magic" confuse you? "souls" obviously dont exist

>>18050983

if my wife had died before I met her, would I have been able to find someone who could make me happy? yes. thats all you need to know, scum. real relationships arent about magic. they are about clear expectations and unwavering devotion. there isnt just 1 single person in the world who is an exact match for 1 other person. soulmate is just a disney world. my wife is amazing and i love her. she is certainly one of the many possible "soulmates" i could have met.

you'll understand when you're older.

>>18050989
>my wife is amazing and i love her
this is what you tell yourself now that you're stuck with her. actually no, this is what you're saying to us now that we're calling you out on your bullshit.

you don't think she's amazing. you think she's good enough just like any one of billions of other women on the planet would have been good enough.

you will never understand because you're stuck in a shitty pointless relationship. relationships can be so much more than just being able to stand someone enough to live under the same roof and cooperate enough to raise a kid and then you die. and you will never know that. too bad.

>>18050982
>muh sooouuulll
>I can't demonstrate why my feelings matter in any tangible way, but if I use this abstract unprovable concept, nobody can shit on me for it!

Nope. The truth is your feelings don't matter, and neither do the precious "animals" (btw homo sapiens is still an animal, you fucking moron).

Next step is muuuhh nattuurrr and muh gaiiiaaaa.

it's just another religion except with more green bullshit. The faster you accept your feelings don't matter the easier life will get.

>>18050989
I never insinuated there is anything magical about the sky, I don't see where you got that. But yes the universe is a wonderous thing to gaze upon, too bad we can't see more of it.

Well clearly this discussion is over, since I believe in souls and you don't.
And by the way, using the term "magic" to lable the parts of the universe we can't yet understand is truly a sign of a fool.
I hope your daughter ends up smarter than you.
Actually, I hope she gets hit by a car tomorrow. Save her the horrible fate of growing up with you as a father, raised to be a soulless whore. I pity her.

Have a good evening faggot

>>18051002

sorry, no, that's just "spirit magic".

i love my wife dearly but its naive to think she is the only person in the world i could have been happy with.

again, youll understand this better when you get older. god forbid your "soulmate" dies and leaves you in the position of having to either

a) live alone for the rest of your life because your literal one and only soulmate died
b) realize that i'm 100% correct and that we as humans can create something beautiful out of the mundane

>>18051020
beauty is "spirit magic" and doesn't exist

mundane is the rest of your life until your eventual divorce. and who are we kidding you'll probably die alone after that anyway

>>18051014

souls arent real. people are.

obvious troll went too far. time to get b&

>>18051035
>Has never been kissed before
>tries to armchair guess at the dynamics of couples he's never interacted with

So sad, the projection is palpable. Not him btw.

nu-male

>>18051035

>REEEEE, how can you not believe in my fairy tales????? I BASED MY WHOLE LIFE ON THEM

Sorry, kiddo

>>18051045
I've interacted with this faggot enough over the past couple hours to have his number.

Sorry you're so slow on the update, retard.

>>18051050
I'm not even that same guy you're talking to. I never said there were souls or anything like that

once again your crippling illiteracy rears its ugly head.

>>18051052
>I know someone because I shatpost at them on 4chan over a couple hours

my sides, people like you are the reason I still come to this board looooool

>>18051057
>I know someone because I shatpost at them on 4chan over a couple hours
Oh, like you "know" I've never been kissed because you shitpost at me just now?

So tell me why do you bother coming here when you apparently find your own faggotry hilarious?

>>18051052

tell me my number, bitch!

>>18051053

>haha, you cant tell which post is me on an anonymous message board? illiterate!

if im illiterate then how do i read, shitlimbs?

>>18051061
>if im illiterate then how do i read, shitlimbs?
text to speech

also illiteracy also refers to being devoid of reading comprehension as well. so i'm sure you can distinguish words, but evidently most of their meaning eludes you.

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>>18050710
Soulmates don't exist.
There's billions of humans, you're not supposed to pick the perfect one, you're supposed to pick a very good option.

Saying there's such a thing as soulmates is like saying there's such a thing as a souljob.

>>18050965
>humans are different than animals
>therefor we have souls but they dont
>therefor there's exactly 1 other person who is currently alive and on this earth which I was destined to be with
>I can tell who they are because i went on a few dates and had a good feeling
>all the other times someone else has had a good feeling about a potential lover and turned up being horribly wrong it was because they weren't as attuned to their spirit-senses as I am(?)

you fucking what

>>18049575
Trusting people blindly is fucking stupid.

Also, you have a double standard of not trusting him with your phone.

Next time he asks (assuming you have nothing to hide) suggest you will if he gives you his. The only boyfriends I've ever had worry about that are the ones that were constantly deleting shit and making new emails and accounts.

Not saying he's doing this, but it's only fair and he can see how annoying it is.

My bf and I don't care if we rifle through each others phones but we don't out of respect. It's kind of like, if you REALLY have to knock yourself out.

To prevent such behavior I suggest when you have your phone out have it facing up with the ringer on so he knows you don't give a fuck if he might see a little something

>>18050916
This soulsmate stuff sounds gay so fair enough

>>18051427
The thing is that nowadays it is so easy to hide (not even talking about deleting) stuff on your phone that it really proves nothing if the phone is clean.

Sure, people still get caught because most people are lazy dumb asses, but anyone who wants to not get caught has plenty of (free) apps available.

At the end of the day, people can always find a way to cheat, there's no way around needing to trust your partner.

>>18051077
>souljob
Is that using your soul to jack someone off?

>>18051509
>At the end of the day, people can always find a way to cheat, there's no way around needing to trust your partner.
>needing to trust
>always find a way to cheat

Cheating is enabled by morons who blindly trust their partner. Trust them, but never blindly, and never fully.