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GUIDELINES:
Before you post a question, check the FAQ to see if it's already been answered.
Keep questions short for more answers.
If you're not going to like honest answers, don't ask your question.
And please no derailing arguments or attention whoring.

FAQ:
>Do girls/guys like <insert specific look>?
>What do girls/guys think about <an insecurity including, but not limited to: looks, physical traits, personality traits, virginity or otherwise lack of dating experience>
There is no one answer. Preferences differ, but complexes are always a turn-off.

>I'm shy and afraid of people/rejection. What do I do?
Get over it by practising and exposing yourself to it, little by little, step by step. There is no single magical moment that will instantly change you forever.

>I like someone. What do I do?
>How can I tell if someone likes me?
Ask them out.

>Where do I meet girls/guys?
Anywhere outside. Or online.

>Someone did something insignificant. What does it mean?
Nothing significant. You're overthinking it.

>XYZ happened. Interpret this for me please
We're not in their head, we don't know.

>This person did something that hurt my feelings. Why do guys/girls do this?
Because shit people are shit people. It's not a gendered thing.

>Someone has made it super clear they're no longer interested in me. Do I still have a chance?
No.

>Where do I go on a first (or subsequent) date?
Pick one or more of the following: coffee, lunch, dinner, drinks, ice cream, movies, zoo, aquarium, museum, art gallery, <activity in your city>.

>Brandon, that guy who keeps asking about cuddling in platonic friendships and fart guy
Fuck off
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>>18041877

people who are spamming the same message are breaking the rules. people who are unwilling to take advice and just attack everyone who gives them advice are also breaking the rules.

do not be afraid to report these people.
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>>18041889

and yes, constantly asking the same question when its clearly the same person counts as spamming and is a bannable offense. since the new janni took over we've seen the obvious re-posters disappear.
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To the guys and girls here:

I just want to thank you for helping me feel normal.

I've been having some girl trouble lately and have been feeling generally worthless about it, but then I found these threads. Now I can see that other people have the same problems as me and I'm not so weird after all.

Thanks, all you glorious fags.
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Met up with this girl from tinder after two weeks of texting, she blew me in my car (it was decent head) but we were supossed to hang out yesterday but i cancelled because franky shes clingy and already acting like my SO. We dont have much in common but for some reason shes crazy for me, how do i tell her nicely that i dont wanna see her anymore?
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>>18041920
Ehhh thats a pity, but I suppose she shouldn't have come on so strong.
Since you just cancelled, I'd just start by putting distance. Humor her every now and then when she contacts you, but don't set up any meetings. If she doesn't take the hint/see your disinterest, then after you put a little distance then just say something like "I'm sorry I don't see this going anywhere, I just don't think we have a lot in common."
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To the guys - Your girlfriend frequently snapchats one of her best friends boyfriends. It's a guy she didn't know before he got with your girlfriends friend so they didn't have a pre existing friendly relationship. What do you think about this?

Girls - Much the same. You see your boyfriend is snapping with one of your best friends and as far as you know they never interact with each other unless it's a group outing. Do you approach this or let it slide, despite there being no reason for them to have each others number?
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>>18041938
>Girls - Much the same. You see your boyfriend is snapping with one of your best friends and as far as you know they never interact with each other unless it's a group outing. Do you approach this or let it slide, despite there being no reason for them to have each others number?
Depends on what they're sending, but I don't think I would consider that appropriate if it's just the two of them snapping each other (I don't use snapchat so I don't know if that's possible)
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Is taking your SO for granted and giving him shit because you think nothing you do can drive him away a girls thing, or is my gf crazy?
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tfw the more i think about it the more I'm not sure if I'm actually ready for a relationship mentally. tfw want to explore the world with a qt and learn more about myself. But maybe it's multiple things, commitment seems to be something I fear even though that's looking too ahead. And my close minded view of women based on my small experience with them on top of what most people say
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I want to know why people care more about helping females than helping males.

I want to know why when I was stressed out real bad nobody I talked to cared but when girls i knew did it they became the center of attention. I don't seek it but it never finds its way to me either.
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>>18041938
I believe if you can't trust your partner, you shouldn't be together. So idc if my boyfriend is snapping friends, male or female.
Hell, your best friend's girlfriend would probably be one of the safest people to snap in my eyes. Because you wouldnt want to steal your best friend's girl. That would just make you a douche in many different levels.
>>18041968
>This person did something that hurt my feelings. Why do guys/girls do this?
Because shit people are shit people. It's not a gendered thing.
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>>18041972
Because they're the "weaker sex". Gender roles are still pretty firmly pressed into society. It benefits women in some ways, stings in others.
Imo though, women do get a lot. I think feminism in the 3rd world is a joke, we've already got it made.
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>>18041877
QUESTION 1:
How many girls here are into spanking or would be open to it in the bedroom?

QUESTION2:
Best way to explain to my gf that I want to take her over my lap?
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>>18041984
1- I've always been turned on by light/playful slapping in foreplay, so I'd probably be willing to try it out. However I am also incredibly turned off by pain, so it'd probably be limited how hard it could go.
2- Just start talking. Good relationships should have good communication, especially in the bed room. Share your kink, see if she'd be willing to try. Be sure to ask if she's got any kinks of her own she'd like to discuss too.
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Girls and guys

I feel kinda down.

I'm 27, and it just sucks how things with friends aren't the same anymore. I know as people get older things change. But I just hate how we never can hang out. All of my friends are in serious relationship, so we never hang out anymore. It just sucks because now I don't have shit to do outside of my normal weekly activities. What do you do when you hit this age and it effects your friendships?
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Girls

What's the point of starting a relationship with someone if you know that it won't be long term? Isn't the point of dating to find someone to spend your life with?
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>>18041992
I'm turned off by pain too actually, I would never hurt her.
I'm into the control/humiliation play.

She is quite open sexually, we even did that online test to discover each other kinks, but she is quite naive, as in: spanking = one playful slap, choking means = holding by the neck while pounding (Im not into chocking btw, just an example).

I just want to strip her naked, pull her over my knees and spank her lightly for 20mins, and then fuck her to sleep.

How would you have a guy ask you if you are up for it?
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>>18041923
yeah sounds like my best bet plus its already what ive kinda been doing. thanks man
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>>18042000
Doesn't have to. Dating can just be to pass the time, so long as you're both aware of that.
Hell, do you really think the 12 year olds in middle school dating are really thinking "I'm gonna marry this person!".
They're not.

If you seek that special form of companionship, and want a singular sex partner, nothing wrong with dating even though it might not be forever.

Besides, I don't think there's anything that can tell you for certain you KNOW it won't be long term. No matter what happens in life, you can always decide you care more about your SO than anything else.
Like I want to get a job overseas when I graduate next year. I'm still looking for a relationship. I'll cross that bridge when I get there. If I meet someone amazing enough to convince me that they're better than my dream job, then I'll happily choose them.
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>>18042005
Yeah, if you're that close I would definitely just talk about it. Don't have to sugar coat it, just be blunt with it. "Hey baby I wanna try something new, hear me out?"

I'd just put out the perimeters from the start, for the first time at least. Tell her exactly what you just told me.

Now if I were in her shoes and this was my boyfriend saying this to me, 20 mins seems a bit much to me. But I'd be more than willing to try whatever. I might just say "for now since I'm experimenting and idk how I'll feel about it, I'll let you go as long as I feel comfortable, but I promise I'll wait until I'm really certain I'm not liking it anymore before I stop ya." I'd give it a real college try and not bail immediately unless it really did just, absolutely trigger me or something.

This kink isn't exactly dangerous, and pretty easy to adjust, so I can't see her freaking out too much about it unless she's just got some emotional block on it I don't know about. Worst case will probably be your first smack might be too hard and she'll have to pause for a minute to say "Woah, bring it down a notch."
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>>18042014

I can't comprehend any of that Tbh. I understand what you were trying to say. But I can't comprehend it.
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>>18042028
Well then there's your answer. There is no point for you. So you should probably just stay single/have casual sex.
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>>18042032

>stay single/casual sex

Well I don't feel comfortable with casual sex.

Fuck, I'm 26, but the entire concept of dating/relationships makes no sense to me. None of it does.

Yeah, I'll stay single for a very long time, probably forever Tbh. But the combination of society, media, and just natural human instinct being a male, makes this shit so confusing in my mind.
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>>18042036
Well, if there's no like, special circumstance as to why you "know it won't go anywhere" like the common like I get being in my early 20's "Idk where I'll be after college", then I don't see why you don't just stay out there.
If it's just that you haven't met someone you could see yourself with, then that's fine. I'll be honest, I've been in the dating game for half a decade, and I've only twice met someone I felt like I could have possibly seen myself with. Neither ended up working out, but it's fine. I gave it a try.

I think you should evaluate what it is that makes you think you "know" it'll never go anywhere. Sometimes you just don't know if you don't try. If you have any degree of connection or chemistry with someone, ask her out on a date. Form a relationship if it grows that far. If it ends, that's a shame, but not the end of the world.

Basically, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.


Alternatively, if you just have no interest in dating at all and this is all just a "I feel pressured by society to do something I don't wanna do", then just say fuck it dude. Some people would rather be single their whole lives, work with themselves and focus on themselves. Nothing wrong with that, and fuck all the nay sayers.
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>>18042045

It won't go anywhere because I never want to get married or have kids. I've had this same mindset since i was 16 years old. The problem is im a male, so of course i think about girls due to biology. But I don't believe in casual sex, and I also don't believe in dating someone just for the sake of dating. Dating is suppose to be trying to find someone to actually be with. Why even bother getting attached to and letting someone get attached to me so it'll end painfully? it wouldn't be right, I'm not a mean guy, so I'd feel like shit if i broke up with a girl who really liked me.
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Girls, but both if you have a relevant answer:

Tinder any good for serious relationships? Casual sex just doesn't really do anything for me.
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Asked a girl if she wanted to go to the movies, she asked if she could bring a friend.

I should just give up on being more than friends right?
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This girl is texting me that shes drunk and horny. Normally this would be a slam drunk, the thing is she's made it clear she doesnt see me with romantic interest. She's done this before. What do I do?
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>>18042081
YES
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>>18042081
Nope, bring one of your friends too.

She may just be trying to help her friend
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>>18042093
What do you mean anon
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>>18042081
Maybe. But it also depends, might just be trying to take the pressure off a one-on-one thing if she's otherwise into you.
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>>18042081
>Asked a girl if she wanted to go to the movies

>to go to the movies

>I should just give up on being more than friends right?

Yes. Movies are a shit first date.
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>>18042106
Not our first time hanging out. We went to a super bowl viewing party last week.
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>>18042148
And are you super awkward/is she out of your league?
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>>18042167
Nope to both. We were laughing the whole night with little down time. She said she was happy she went out (we both dont like football). I walked her back to her dorm at the end of the night and she hugged me.
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Is it acceptable to hit on girls in your class or no?
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>>18042093
>She may just be trying to help her friend
Nonsense. If she was trying to set him up with a friend, she wouldn't be tagging along on what would be a date.
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I keep getting mistreated by women and I'm really irritated with it

>Really starts in December
>Good relationship, breaks up with me very suddenly over goofy reason (I'm moving in a year) but whatever, her life, her anxiety
>A week after that, closest female friend accuses me of sexual assault to not get kicked out of her apartment
>FWB suddenly breaks contact to start dating someone, led me on for sex
>Other ex girlfriend goes off on me because she's mad over something I did years ago, calls me a selfish piece of shit
>Coworker starts sexually harassing me over the phone, starts being a real bitch because I don't want to have sex with a basketcase, then tries to manipulate me into keeping it a secret (I told the boss)

This is every woman I've gotten close to in the past several months, save for two. Not to mention every relationship has broken down because they didn't communicate problems in the relationship and just suddenly sprung them on me after they built up.

What the fuck is wrong? It's all women, not even just ones I've tried to date. How do I even avoid this in the future?
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>>18042265
Date men or go MGTOW.


I've gotten the exact same shit from every woman in my life too, I still try to look and date but good god the way I keep seeing women treating men, women talking to men, and how women have treated me it really turns one off of dating.
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>>18042215
Hit on them? Not really, and definitely not if you're doing it to every girl. Get to know them and flirt a little? Sure.
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>>18041920
Did you make ground rules before the incident?
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Fuck me guys hold me back I really want to blow up at this bitch but more than that I don't want to lose by letting her get my goat.
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>>18042265
Damn, sounds like you've had bad luck with women. Look, you blame them completely for every relationship breakdown, but it's rarely all one person. It's possible you could seem like you don't care about their problems, or you're unapproachable or just plain old don't pick up on signs. Hell, did you even ask them if anything was wrong?

Sure, a lot of these women sound like bitches. But the common denominator is you- there must also be something you're doing. You may just not be that great of a catch and thus only attract the dregs of womankind.

You're blaming everyone else here, so I'd advise you to look at yourself as well. Become someone worth dating to a good, kind, reasonable and intelligent woman- after all, the only person who's behaviour you can control is you.
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Girls,
Does not having any social media side from texting reduce the chances of liking someone? Does it make it seem like that guy is antisocial or wierd?
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>>18042413
I only have facebook (and discord), and even then I only go on there for a few long distance friends, so it's not weird to me.

Depends on the girl I suppose. Most people think I'm weird for not having instagram or Snapchat or whatever else people use. Personally I see it as good when someone isn't mindlessly glued to their phones.
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>>18042413
It's definitely weird, but whether or not someone takes that as a bad thing depends on the person. This is covered in the first question in the FAQ
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>>18042413
No, I don't care. Where I live people use WhatsApp to text so yeah, I'd expect you to have at least that.
But, other than that, I don't care - I don't use facebook or instagram much (last time I posted on instagram was on NYE, last time I posted on facebook was a year ago), I don't have snapchat or any other social media.
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>>18041877
If penetration doesn't get most women off, why do you roasty pussied leeches demand for men to have an infants arm for a dick?
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>>18042444
Most women CAN come from penetration (as in: they experienced it at least once).

Most women also want an average/slightly over average dick.
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>>18041938
>You see your boyfriend is snapping

Winge. Thankfully neither of us deal with social media bullshit.
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>>18042448
I thought it was that most women COULDN'T get off/orgasm from being penetrated alone and required bean flicking. If i'm not mistaken about that, i find it odd that they'd want a big penis when it wont be doing anything for them.
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>>18042463
Under 30% of women never got off during penetration. A lot of women rarely can, but it is not caused by their own physical incapability.
So yeah, you're mistaken about that.
Also - even if you don't reach an orgasm, it is still pleasant to be fucked by a big dick, both psychologically and physically.
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>>18041972
Don't listen to the societal constructs thing. It's based even deeper in our biology. Women are just relatively weaker and people do just care relatively more about women no matter where you go. They have the scarcer gamete and are the ones that incubate the child.
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>>18042469
So it's all in their heads? women should be kept off the internet, i doubt any would have a preference for big penises had they never seen them advertised in porn.
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>>18042473
No, it is not all in their head. It is nice to look at a big penis. It is pleasant physically too - I don't always get off through vaginal sex, but it is very pleasant to get fucked nonetheless.
It is not about porn, I hadn't watched porn till I turned 21 and still always preferred over-average dicks.
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>>18042000
To me it is. I don't understand those who take it so casually. I wouldn't become more than friends with someone if I didn't see us as potentially being life partners.
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Could use any kind of advice, really.

March last year my GF broke up with me, she was abroad back then. Had contact every so so until she came back, which was really tense and did not went well. Had a no contact rule since October until we bumped into each other on a party again. Last week we saw each other more regularly due to friends. At a party, we had a large and good conversation where we eventually made out and I left. I was wondering what I feit and it was just something that passed.

Now, a couple of days later and im processing this, im wondering if this is 'it' or if I should try and meet with her again and see if my feelings are right.

On the other hand, I really want her out of my head and give my chances with someone else and the whole ex thing might be holding me back. I don't know.

Just gimme what you got.
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>>18042058
No
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>>18042444
Think of penises like boobs, sure it's nice when a girl has a nice set of boobs, but if she has a small chest then it's not that important if you like the girl. Also, bigger boobs =/= more attractive. Too much boobs and it gets in the way.
Well its the same thing for girls, especially if she has an emotional link to the guy.
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>>18042413
No it's a big plus for me
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>>18042444
If I recall correctly, there was a study that showed the vast majority of women are happy with their partner's size, while less than 50% of men are happy with their own size.
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Visited a party yesterday, met a girl, there was some sort of connection immediately, for both of us, yet after I left to greet some friends for 5 minutes and returned, she was making out heavily with another guy, like it is fucking normal
It was painful at first, but afterwards it felt just like emptiness
I tried talking to her some time after that but all my attraction faded away to a point of a slightly disgusted indifference
Wtf? Why women do such things?
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>>18042497
How drunk was she? Some people are just affectionate drunks.
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Asking a girl out from school tomorrow. Don't know if she's single, but I've spoke to her once, and she can hold a really good conversation, and we're both corky so the conversation never went cold. Turns out shes really social, and is the type of person that will speak to anyone about anything. However she never comes to class. I don't even know her name, so i dont know how it will go.This is kind of a question, but more of a soap box. I'll also need motivation so I don't bitch out when the time comes. Do you think it will be the best decision for me to ask her out the next time I see her?
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Girls,
Why are you all such cunts?
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>>18042497
Maybe she didn't feel that sort of connection, maybe she was drunk, maybe she just felt that sort of connection with the other guy.
Overall, who gives a shit, it's just a random girl at a party - you two weren't committed or anything, she didn't wrong you in any way.
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>>18042265
>>A week after that, closest female friend accuses me of sexual assault to not get kicked out of her apartment
>>>Coworker starts sexually harassing me over the phone, starts being a real bitch because I don't want to have sex with a basketcase, then tries to manipulate me into keeping it a secret (I told the boss)

I'd feel bad, but I've met people like you, who mock me for being a virgin.

Would not trade places.

Real funny too, I got this "friend", made fun of me for being a virgin, spent the next day locked up talking to solicitors and investigators because a girl accused him too.

Fuck you Chad.
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>>18042484
Well that >50% of men are unhappy about their size because of retarded women making it seem like having an average penis means you're never going to satisfy their woman. Why do women push this fucking meme? It's like they want to make men self conscious about their size. (this ties into the next reply)

>>18042550
My guess is that, basically they're trying to mimic what they find attractive about alpha males via passive-aggressiveness (confrontation is too scary, so passive-aggressiveness is what they go for) because they think that's what those men will be attracted to (toughness) It's called projecting. In their heads, what makes a man attractive is his confidence, ruthlessness, his alpha behavior, his status. So, they try to mimic men and end up seeming like shitty, insensitive hyper-hypocrites because we both know if you so much as imply a woman is bad then she'll start crying. A women can't handle any amount of banter, but she can shit on anyone she wants to free of repercussion.
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>>18042572
>Women are happy with their partner's dick, men aren't happy with their own dick
>It's women fault

How can you honestly be so misogynist? Women are HAPPY with an average dick, average or slightly over average is IDEAL for most women.
Maybe guys set unrealistic expectations for themselves watching porn and such? Maybe it isn't women's fault, but just men's bullshit?
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>>18042477
Bump
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>>18042576
Read the whole thing, lady. A woman can love her man if he's got a small willy, i'm saying women pretend like that isn't the case so as to lower the confidence of men, they do it to shame men, as an insult, it's a joke that's totally acceptable to make. you don't even realize you're doing it you fucking cunt. Notice how i mentioned that a woman can't take banter? Look at what you're doing now whore, you know i'm fucking right. You know it's absolutely A-Okay to shit on a man for the size of his cock, but you so much as bring up how hypocritical ALL women are and they start attacking, denying that the truth isn't so. You pieces of shit are abusing the privileges we allow you, women don't have rights, they have privileges. We allow you cunts to run amok, never fucking forget it, bitch.
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>>18042587
But they don't pretend like it isn't the case. I personally never heard a woman complaining or joking about an average dick. Sometimes about a small dick, yes, but in the same way my friends with small breasts are made fun of.
Why would you pretend you're unhappy with something they are happy with? How does it make any sense?

You're misogynist, and more than anything stupid.
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>>18042594
>Why would you pretend you're unhappy with something they are happy with?
Women do it all the fucking time, it's in ads, on social media, it's fucking everywhere. You've never seen it happen? you must not watch TV or you must not have a twitter and facebook. You're denying the truth because you want me to be wrong, you want me to be wrong because you refuse to accept a reality where someone who has the attitude that i have towards women could be right about anything that relates to women. Just admit it, women are hypocrites. Whenever the chance arrises to shit on someone who's dick isn't the size of a babies arm women will take it in a heart beat, no hesitation, like heartless savages, then they pretend like they're this compassionate and caring entity. It's fucking disgusting, you should be ashamed to have a vagina. Women are the ones who spread around the myth that average wont satisfy them EVEN IF their significant other has an average penis.
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>>18042606
That's bullshit. I've never heard a woman making fun of an average dick. Sometimes of small dicks, but never of average.
There might be some women who do it, but it's not nearly as common as you say. Most women are perfectly happy with an average dick, and I've never heard them saying anything different.
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I was drunk and made out with some random guy, and my friend added him on my Facebook

What do I do if he messages me? I don't think I'm actually into him
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>>18042609
You're so full of it, lady. I'm starting to think you're bait posting.

>>18042611
Just tell him you were drunk and aren't really into him, what the fuck else would you say? or just delete the man off of your facebook.
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>>18041877
How do i go from best friend (genuinely) to gf bf scene.
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>>18042656
you don't.
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>>18042659
Damn :( maybe in another life
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>>18042663
Don't let me stop you. There are exceptions of course, but do you really want to be that guy.
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>>18042656
Ask her out on dates, compliment her on her appearance and have physical contact with her e.g. hugs, knee rubbing. If she rejects you on all fronts, well, at least you put yourself out there.

Don't be like my mate and play it safe. As soon as you realise you're keen, start pursing.
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>>18042668
Well im not the type of guy who goes clubbing and pulls girls left and right.
>>18042671
How do i make it feel like a date though instead of just hanging out as usual.
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>>18042656
"How do you feel about us taking our relationship to the next level?"
It's that easy.
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Help brothers I need my dick to grow to impress my internet Indonesian girlfriend called selfie! The problem is I have a micropenis and am a Malaysian ching chong scammer!


Help and I will give you a cut in my scam pretending to be a legit mortage broker la!
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>>18042677
Flirt. Do it late night via text if you can't do it face to face right away.
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When do you guys open up to girls if you suffer from depressive episodes or stuff like that?

I know it's an incredibly unattractive trait and I've been working my best to improve on that.

However apart from that I think I have my life in order. Good job, decent looks, fit and pretty bright.
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>>18042696
transfer 100 000 000 000 000 ZWD to my account and first thing in the morning your penis selfie solution will be in the post shipping fragile direct to you ok my friend :D

>>18042721
depends on the girl, gonna have to gauge the situation each time, but generally speaking don't do it too early and don't make a big deal out of it when you do tell them
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My gf is concerned that she's putting in weight. Honestly she kind of is but I have a thing for bigger women so imagining her bigger kind of turns me on. So I've been saying she isn't but I feel bad about it. Should I say something? How?
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To guys, do any of you actually like smaller breasts better than big ones or is that something you tell a girl to make her feel better?
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>>18042889
There are people who get off on eating feces or having someone piss all over them, but it's hard to believe some men like smaller breasts?

Do you have mental retardation?
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>>18042891
I get that its a fetish you autist, but 80% of the guys that Ive heard of said they like small breasts and I find it hard to believe such a huge majority like itty bitty titties so I've gotten suspicious.
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>>18042897
Yeah but when you think about it, a guy who prefers big boobs would be less likely to want to get with you. So like most of what you see is gonna be dudes who like smaller boobs.
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>>18042889
I tell her just to make her feel better. There are few things better than sucking on big tits.
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Guys,

Considering asking a guy I sort of know if he wants to sleep with me. I will make sure to ask whether he's single beforehand. We don't know each other well but get along.

I know he might say no, that's not the issue. He's a cool guy but I don't have feelings so it would just be a minor disappointment. The thing is - how would you feel if a girl did this, you said no, and you saw her again afterwards? We will absolutely see each other again. Would it make you too uncomfortable? Is it a cunt move?
I can deal with some awkwardness but not sure how the other party would feel so I'm just trying to get some opinions.
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Women

Do you consider fapping/looking at porn constantly as beta behavior?
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>>18042880
I'd just reassure her that it's her decision and that you'd still be attracted to her if she were chubby. And obviously make it very clear that you love her body.
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>>18042903
Guys can really easily separate sex and love. As long as he's not a dirtbag (someone that would tell his friends about it) I don't think there'd be any awkwardness at all from him. Me personally I wouldn't want any so I'd act like there was none anyway
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>>18042918
Looking at porn constantly is not attractive. It would not make me think that someone was "beta" as much as unhappy and had a stunted way of expressing himself sexually.

Just fapping because you feel like it is obviously no issue.
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>>18042891
This is a kind of funny answer, but it's misleading, because liking small breasts isn't at all like a fetish. It's just a preference, not even a very unusual one. Fetishes are by definition abnormal (that's not to say "wrong", just abnormal) -- liking small breasts is probably a minority preference, but I'd bet no rarer than liking short hair, and PLENTY of guys think short-haired girls are cute.

>>18042889
Personally I like both. Most dudes don't have just one ideal of beauty in their heads, they have several -- I mean, I'm attracted to women with I guess a "conventionally" ideal body type (large boobs and also somehow unattainably thin), & also to women most people would probably describe as 'curvy' (by movie star standards they'd be a little overweight), and also to slender, small-breasted women. I really don't have a preference for any of those body types over any of the others any more than I have a preference for brunettes over redheads just because my girlfriend happens to have brown hair. The reason you feel insecure is probably because one of those body types is represented disproportionately in pop culture, but that's not really representative of people's actual preferences. Or do you think girls all think male body hair is disgusting because Hollywood & the porn industry for some reason decided in like 2005 that chest hair would never again be shown on a screen?

Anyway. Even though I, personally, don't have a preference one way or the other, I know a couple dudes who've expressed a *definite* preference for small breasts. They're out there. Do you think so many people would have a thing for Asians if all men hated smaller boobs?

And that's a way more clinical post than I ever expected to write about breasts. Ugh.
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>>18042899
That makes sense, but I mostly don't interact with guys other than online where they don't know what I look like or even if I'm a girl or not, but I guess guys on the internet could just be more likely to like small boobs because of weebs
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>>18042918
Not really. Beta behavior is more about how you act around others. However, if you're very beta around people AND watch a lot of porn, I think it can make you seem even more beta.
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>>18042920
Honestly we know each other from some very specific hobby event, there's zero overlap in our social circles. I don't even have an online presence so there's literally no way he could do anything other than describe me. I also don't think he's that type at all.

Thanks for your answer and I guess I should've included it in the original but - if he says yes it'll be my first time, should I feel obliged to tell him? I feel like it would make things too awkward to spring at him that I'd like to go home with him out of nowhere, and add that I'm technically a virgin (have done oral etc just no penetration). But I'm not sure if it's scummy to not say anything about it, I can't guarantee that he won't be able to tell though I don't think he will.
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>>18042928
Thanks for your long analytical answer, I kind of assumed most guys didnt care as long as the girl was hot/cute regardless, but I still assumed that even the guys that liked petite girls with small boobs probably preffered busty hourglasses. You made some good points though, so I suppose I'm probably wrong.
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>>18042932
I know a few guys that won't take a girl's virginity. They just won't, they don't want to feel any pressure from it.

Not saying he's one of these guys but he could be
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>>18042932
It's not scummy to not tell him. That's entirely your business. I'm not sure why you wouldn't - I mean, maybe a few guys would find that awkward, but as long as it's clear (and I think you will make it clear, just through tone of voice and body language, so don't worry about that) that you just want to fuck and you're not going to fall in love with him, taking a girl's virginity is kind of a fantasy situation for a lot of guys.

Honestly man you're overthinking this. There are exceptions, but if most guys got randomly approached by a girl they were sorta friends with and asked "Hey, do you want to go home with me later and have one-time no-strings-attached sex?" that'd be basically the coolest thing that ever happened to them.
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>>18042952
I'm aware of that, but do you feel it would be the right thing to do to inform him beforehand? Or can I go in with the attitude that there are no expectations if he doesn't know he's my first?

>>18042954
I guess you're right, it's just way out of my comfort zone and I'm afraid of coming across unhinged. It doesn't help that I'm fairly old to be a virgin in the first place (turning twenty four this spring) so that's another factor that makes it weirder. Also we have a click, he laughs at stuff I say all the time, but we have never exchanged contact info, hung out together outside of these events, so going from that to proposing sex is pretty extreme to me.

But again I think I'm just worrying too much about looking crazy. Thanks for your perspective, it is reassuring.
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>>18042920

>Guys can really easily separate sex and love

That's 100% bullshit
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>>18042963
I really think you'll only come across as unhinged if you are unhinged. You are pretty clearly not unhinged. I mean, I can't make any promises, I don't know the guy, but I doubt it'll be a problem.

As for being a virgin at 23, yeah, that's older than average, but it's not like you're one-in-a-million or anything. I've known several people, male and female, and they weren't freaks by any means, who for whatever reason got to their mid-early twenties without having sex. Happens more than you'd think. I'm sure you know this intellectually, but maybe it helps a little to be reminded that you're nowhere near "holy shit - are you serious?" territory yet.
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>>18042989
Thanks man, that's very kind. Yeah I know it intellectually, in fact I'm not even alone in my friend group. But from my experience it's the kind of thing where if you have experienced it yourself or in your own social circle, you know it can just happen. But if you have been having sex from a young age onwards and don't know any differently, it can be really odd trying to comprehend it. The last guy who wanted to take me out on a date physically backed away from me when I told him (after he asked, to be sure) I'd never been in a relationship before.

But really thank you, it's a lot for me to even consider this and I am looking forward to seeing how it plays out now. I think even in the worst case scenario of him saying no and it being awkward, it is still more important that I tried to put myself out there like that. So that's something to keep in mind I guess..

I hope you have a nice day.
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Girls and guys

Does masturbation/orgasm ever make you feel bad? I've fapped once a day for the past week and I feel like it's taking a toll on my mental health. After orgasm, I don't get that "pleasurable wave" people talk about. It's a depressing and anxiety ridden feeling. I fapped for today about 30min ago, and I just feel stressed and anxious.

Honestly, I can't even imagine sex. If I feel this shitty from orgasm, it scares me how bad anxiety must be from a post-sex orgasm.
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Women:
Do you think women should be allowed to show their nipples in public? If yes, should it be anywhere (I mean anywhere a man would be allowed to walk shirtless) or only in specific places that specifically allow for it?
If you live in a country where this is common and allowed already, please state so.
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>>18043005
Guy here, yeah I feel like shit right after masturbating. I don't feel stressed or anxious after fapping though, I feel stressed and anxious before fapping and after fapping I feel relaxed like I don't care about anything and like whatever turned me on a little while ago now feels repulsive or just unattractive.
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>>18043008

No it shouldn't be allowed. The difference between a man's nippes and a woman's nipples, is that a woman's is a tool for arousal. Naturally if a man gazes upon a woman's' tit, it will get him aroused. The body subconsciously find them attractive because it shows the woman's health. The better looking it is, the more likely she is to produce better offspring, which induces the male sex drive.

Women do not get wet at the site of a man's nipple.
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>>18043008
I live in a country where sunbathing topless used to be 100% normal at the beach. Norms are a bit more conservative now, but still at most someone will move away if they don't like to see tits, they won't ask anyone to wrap them. Obviously this goes for leisure time at the beach and not walking around downtown.

It's a bit of a senseless discussion for me. Yes tits are sexualized to some extent by having been the prime sexual focus on a female body in culture etc for some decades, but it's not like they aren't inherently a sexual characteristic. And even if iot's true that media plays its part, men are "victims" of that as well and hardly personally to blame for being uncomfortable with bare tits.
I also can't imagine many women would feel comfortable, both physically (lot of jiggling) and emotionally walking around with their tits out. I feel like for most women it's more a point of principle than that they're dying to take them out in public.

The only thing that does piss me off is people complaining about breastfeeding.
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>>18041877
Do girls hate being asked out on a date?
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>>18043014
Not really true, if a man is shirtless you see not just his nipples but his bodyshape and amount of muscle, tan, tattoos, bodyhair etc. Maybe not just the nipples themselves (but for the women it's also not just the nipples) but the overall picture absolutely can get women wet.

And on the flip side, it's not exactly impossible for men to become aroused from just cleavage or something either. Let alone flimsy bikini tops.
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>>18043021

Shall we invoke Sharia Law?
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>>18043026
Only if you think it's a bad thing that people have some eye candy...
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>>18043028

>Only if you think it's a bad thing that people have some eye candy..

no... I do appreciate attractive looking women..
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>>18043008
As an idea, yes I think it should be allowed. One of the reasons why men find breasts as attractive as they do is because they're taboo. The attraction is largely situational, though I'm sure there is a biological component.
I just assume it would be like seeing a girl with a pretty face if you see a girl with nice tits.

Obviously practically though it's not a useful thing to try to change. It really doesn't matter at all and it would take a lot of effort. That effort should be spent on something that matters
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Boys:
I'm dating a guy who lives across the country who is very horny and is often in a bad mood due to frustration that he can't sleep with me.
Because I can't be there to physically please him and I see it having a negative impact on his mood, I told him he can go fuck around with girls at parties. (I have a secret fetish for that anyways so it doesn't bother me)

He's very different than me in that sex isn't tied to emotions- he's had sex with dozens of women before he met me and many of them he didn't even like. I'm not worried about him finding someone he likes better than me, either.

Are there any potential issues I should be on the lookout for? He made out with some chick last night and it was hot and I masterbated to the thought of it but he was very hesitant to do it in the first place because he said it felt "wrong".
I'm kind of afraid that he feels guilty even though I gave him permission.
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Guys:
Do/can you friendzone females?
If so, how do I tell and get out of it?
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>>18043075
Not a guy, but I've certainly been "friendzoned" by dudes.
Though I will admit, 9/10 it's not a true friendzone, its usually a "fwb zone". Commonly when I express interest in a relationship with a dude he'll say "Oh, no I don't want that. But I'll fuck ya?"
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>>18043008
Personally I think it should be the opposite. Everyone should have to wear fucking clothes in public. Men included. That's just decency man.
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>>18043005
Are you boredom fapping or release fapping? There's a big difference I've noticed. If I fap because I'm bored there's a shitty lingering feeling. If I fap because it's been a few days and I've been busy with other things, it feels good.

Boredom fapping is poison,
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>>18043075
Yes we do. It's awkward, you know that she's interested but you don't want it to go any further. So what I usually do is either talk less and less until she gets the hint or I just ignore her flirting, remove my hand when she touches me, never get too close to her, things like that.
To get out of it, you need to make him see you more than a friend and that's pretty hard. Either be more pushy and don't leave hints but say it straightforward, or just forget about him.
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>>18043061

That sounds like a fucking awful idea. Whether you think it or not, you're telling him to cheat on you..

>>18043075

Yes I've friendzoned girls. To your question, I guess it's the same if a guy was trying to get out of your friendzone
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>>18042889
Well, it's not really from a guys perspective, but coming from my lesbian sister:
"All boobs are god's gift to us all, no matter what size, shape or color" lol

I'm sure to a lot of guys this can be a similar sentiment. Yes, there are some that genuinely will prefer larger ones. But there are most definitely some that will actually prefer smaller ones.
Now, what I will say is if you're a full grown woman who is like, flat as you were when you were 8, then that's probably an even more niche market of men.
All in all though, I think almost all men will appreciate your boobs to some degree though. Just because you aren't the ideal preference even doesn't mean they're bad.
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>>18043107

Now that I think of it. It's more habitual/boredom fapping. I practically never get horny on my own. So, usually when I first start fapping I'm still soft.

I really need to stop. Even tho it's just once a day, it's not healthy. I delete Facebook, Tinder, all of my dating accounts, I don't look at porn. Fuck, I just wish I could not think about girls/sex at all.
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>>18042918
beta? nah, not at all. the psychological effects it has that can bleed over irl and affect sexual performance and whatnot are the only concerning part, if not for that I'd see it as completely harmless and a non-issue

>>18043005
nope. any idea where the bad feelings might be coming from? and don't worry about what it's like with sex, as long as it's not just empty casual ons type shit sex is great, the connection and the intimacy and all that elevates the whole experience far beyond anything that masturbation can achieve and having an orgasm during feeds right into that, it's lovely. that's not to say casual sex is guaranteed to suck, some people get something out of it, it's just chances are higher that sex with random folks you've just met will be less enjoyable/fulfilling/whatever

>>18043008
lol no and I've yet to hear a single good argument in favor of it

>>18043018
healthy well adjusted girls don't; feminists hate damn near everything. so no, also yes, depending

>>18043026
>picrelated
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>>18043061
>Are there any potential issues I should be on the lookout for?
lmao he might dump you sis. I mean if you like it then what's the sweat. Personally I'd never let my girl hook with other guys since I'm a guy at the other end of the spectrum. I get kinda nervous when I know that my girl is out at a club without me.
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GIRLS: Is it true that (white) women fanta/size/ about black men or is that just a meme?
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>>18043061
That's called a cuckquean fetish, if you weren't aware.

Don't listen to the guy who told you it was a bad idea, it CAN work out, but the key is communication, communication, communication. You're both clearly on different pages about this. That means you need to communicate better.

Strongly consider telling him that you have a fetish for it. I mean, you don't have to use the word "fetish" if that weirds you out for some reason, it would be enough to tell him "I just don't get jealous about stuff like that and honestly, I think it's actually pretty hot."
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>>18043005
It used to, but only because I was molested as a young kid and therefore had to work through that mental mind fuck for many years before I realized sex isn't always inherently bad. Matter of fact, that repression was so bad I never even learned how to orgasm until 20. I think I stopped feeling bad about masturbation at 17 though, when I had a boyfriend who I loved who ironically kind of fucking taught me how to masturbate lol. Even still, the entire time I was with him I was still so on edge about it all I could never bring myself to orgasm. I still can't without the use of a vibrator 2bh.

It's really awkward to talk about, but I would suggest bringing this up with your therapist if you have one, and if you don't get one. Idk if you have any specific connection like I did to sex and guilt, or if it's just a feeling of inadequacy or insecurity over all spilling over into other aspects of your life, but talking about it can help. I never actually told my therapist about my molestation, I've never told anyone other than anon strangers online, but I did tell her about feeling guilty with sex. I was seeing her due to sever depression and body issues anyway, so she didn't think anything of it.
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>>18043109
>ignore her flirting
>remove my hand when she touches me
>never get too close to her
He does all that, but he is at least social. I made a couple of hard passes at him, but he blew them off completely. That being said, he responds fairly quick to my messages and smiles at me.
I just want to get to know him better, but anytime I make subtle "hey let's hang out" type hints, he completely misses them, not sure if deliberately or because he's oblivious.
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>>18043127
Yeah, what you described is boredom fapping. If you're not already hard before making contact, you're just bored and looking for entertainment. I'm into sculpting so I keep that nearby when I get bored.
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>>18043141

I've never had an experience like you did. However I do have depression, and the very very few experiences I've had with sex a few years ago were not enjoyable. Fapping just brings me down. I do have a therapist, but there is no way I could tell him about this. I don't feel comfortable talking about these things with people. You all are alright because we are all anon.
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>talking with friend on snapchat last night
>she randomly asks if I think her feet are cute
>try to brush it off (I'm some kind of raging footfag so I'm not trying to let that cat out of the bag)
>she says she'll send me a picture of them and I gotta tell her if they cute
>woke up earlier, one unseen snap

How do I reply to this innocently enough without letting the cat out of the bag?
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>>18043160
Ask her why she can't get an opinion from her boyfriend.
Either that or she has intuited/caught you looking and KNOWS.
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>>18043160
well is it more likely she's flirting with you or fucking with you?
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>>18043156
Well, depression does fuck with all that. When you feel like shit all around, it can be hard to ever feel good about anything. Even sex.

I would suggest trying to work up the courage to talk about it. It could reallllly help you. It made me feel better about it enough to allow myself to even have these such relationships, and I'll admit, there has been no better cure to my body image issues and trouble with sex, than just being in a loving relationship to show me sex is ok and can be enjoyable.
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>>18043118
Yeah but I know about it and like it, so it's not cheating to me. To me, cheating involves betrayal/deception which is why it would hurt if he were to do something without my permission.

>>18043135
Any idea why he'd dump me?
I don't mean to sound cocky by saying this but he's not going to find a girl that he likes more than me, so I'm not afraid of him leaving me for someone else.

>>18043140
Okay, I did tell him that I like it but I guess I didn't realize that it was a fetish with an actual name and stuff!
I think he just doesn't believe me. I've never acted crazy on him or done anything controlling but he said it's just so different from what he's used to seeing from his female friends/his guy friend's gfs that it's hard to believe.
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tldr do I wait for old flame who might not pan out to anything or go for new guy, and break up with him if old flame visits?

I recently got into contact with an old flame that ended badly ,over messaging. We patched things up and he was thinking of coming up to visit in the next month or two. He lives a few hours away. I haven't seen him in years. There wasn't any guarantee of anything, just that his job takes him close to my city once in a while. But I still definitely feel something for him.

I also met a guy recently who is into me. I think he's cute and he's good friends with my friends , so i see him a lot. We've been flirting for a while and I feel like he'll make a move soon.

Do I wait for old flame who might not actually visit or pan out to anything, or give it a go with new guy, and if old flame does visit, break it off with new guy? Or do nothing at all with new guy, because I still like old flame? I feel like it's not good to be stuck on old flame like this.
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>>18043160
She's completely flirting with you. That is really not a normal thing to just send someone, she knows you're into feet
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>>18043196
This is why I hate women.
Can't wait for a world war so most of you stuck up sluts get raped.
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>>18043160
Dude.

She KNOWS.
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To female:

Been talking to this girl for a week and took her out once. She complimented me on my muscles. Would it be too soon to send her a pic of me shirtless?
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>>18043188

I just really don't feel comfortable talking about that stuff. Not like it matters anyways, sex isn't a part of my life. I haven't done it in years.
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>>18043196
Either go for new flame and completely ignore old flame (you obv still have feelings for him)
Or cut off new flame and hope to resolve things with old flame.

Don't do the thing where you have multiple fish on the line or you'all end up really hurting one of these two guys that you care about
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Do men feel orgasm everytime they cum?
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>>18043209
Depends on what kind of girl she is. I personally don't like guys who I feel are show offs. Like if I compliment a guy's muscles in person it's ok for him to be like "yeah? ;)" and flex, but I wouldn't want him to send me an unwarrented pic.

If you're looking for an excuse to show them off without looking like a total show off, go to the gym and take a mirror selfie on snapchat or something. That way it's like you're showing her that you're at the gym, rather than that you're trying to show off your body.


Girls do this 90% of the time. It's like "look at this cute starbucks cup! I'I obviously taking this picture because I think I look cute and want to show off my awesome cleavage right now but by pretending like I have a different reason in mind (showing off my cup), I can avoid looking vain!"
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>>18043228
What?
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>>18043227
Ok you are right I will cut things off with new flame. I realize that it doesn't even matter if old flame never visits since I still feel this way about him and new guy is nice but can't hold a candle. And it would be bad to start something when I'm thinking of another person.

Me and old flame have both been single since we ended, all those years back, so maybe it means something, maybe it doesn't.
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>>18043182
>>18043197
>>18043171
Thing is I'm not going after her and she has a boyfriend of like 2 years, so I'm pretty sure she's not flirting. We just work together and happened to become good friends

>>18043205
I'm hoping this isnt the case man, nobody knows this from me and my friends all shit talk the fetish so I have to play with that narrative often.

Still havent opened it but I'm going to see her at work in an hour so there isnt much time
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>>18043228

No, I don't at least
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>>18043246
What it depends on? Can you describe when you feel it?
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I think my crush is scared of me and I feel like utter shit

How do I stop being a creep
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>>18042584
Second bump
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This has been bugging me a lot lately. So I'm a kissless 22yr virgin. I know for a fact I won't be make the first move in a very long time when it comes to dating but I fear that because of this good matches will end up leaving. My small perception of the female population is that all women want the man to make the first move and if they don't it's good bye to you sir. Assuming actually women use this board I'm just wondering how many of you actually hate men who let's say for the first while of dating are too worried and nervous to make a move but will get comfortable and make moves later on
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>>18042594
>tfw every woman who has seen my dick made fun of it
>tfw it's average
Somehow I think you're full of it
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So, guys. Some friends and I have been talking becausw, like typical girls, they are very insecure. So we are sitting here today searching for answers

So we were wondering. How important is it/how grossed out does a guy get over...

>Weight
>Scars
>Stretch marks (before or after weight loss)
>Height (tall girls gross you out?)
>Arm hair
>Or veins you can see in titties
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I am certain a girl I like finds me very attractive, but she hasn't been making much of an effort to see or contact me. When is it time to give up?
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>>18043289
If I fall for a girl it doesn't matter. Right now I'm crushing on someone who physically isn't my type at all and I don't care, I think she is adorable and cute and I want to do inappropriate stuff with her.
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>>18042889
I love tall women, so yes; I'm sure there are men who prefer small breasts out there
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>>18043253

Sometimes the cum just comes out, but I don't get a feeling of orgasm. It doesn't feel any different then pissing
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>>18043289
>Weight
As long as it's not too much on either side, whatever.
>Scars
Never.
>>18043289
>Stretch marks
Never, I have a bunch of those as well.
>>18043289
>Height
I prefer to be taller than the girl, but I wouldn't mind dating someone 1.85m+
>Arm hair
I don't even notice this.
>>18043289
>Or veins you can see in titties
I'm erect.
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>>18043306
Ah, sorry, of course, I meant the sex and masturbation.
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>>18043228
How would I not?

>>18043245
Someone else probably commented on her feet or asked for feet pics and she wants a second opinion.
As a fellow footfag, I don't know why you are so afraid of letting it out.
ARE THEY SEXY OR NOT?

>>18043289
>Weight
Pretty gross. Please be a healthy skinny, slim, average or, at most, slightly chubby.
>Scars
Depends on the scar. Boobjobs are OK. Huge scars or self harm scars are not.
>Stretch marks (before or after weight loss)
Don't care at all.
>Height (tall girls gross you out?)
Don't care much, but might make sex not so easy.
>Arm hair
Gross. Light colored leg hair is nice.
>Or veins you can see in titties
Don't care.

>>18043291
Why don't YOU make the effort?
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>>18043318

I don't understand what you're asking
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Who was/were your favorite Disney princess(es)? State gender and age.
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>>18043319
I'd give them a 6.5/10 toes a bit too long and her nails weren't done well
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>>18043319
I did make an effort, but she always takes forever to respond and says she's busy when she does. I know she works a lot, but it seems like she doesn't care that much
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>>18043289
Weight isn't significant unless you look pregnant when you aren't.
Scars are insignificant unless you look like you've been self-mutilating.
The rest of the list is very insignificant. I'll be grossed out by bad tattoos and chain smoking before I care about arm hair and visible veins.
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>>18043320
For example, there is a difference when women feel orgasm or just cum during sex. Do you feel orgasm everytime you finish? Is it the same thing to you?
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>>18043289
The only ones of those that's a dealbreaker for me are weight and to a lesser extent scars, because they can be indicative of poor physical and mental health. I actually love tall girls
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>>18043307
>>18043319
>>18043339
>>18043354

You've all been helpful. Thank you for your honesty
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>>18043325
I loved Princess Eilonwy from Black Cauldron when I was a kid.

Also, Jasmine from Aladdin. And Tigerlily from Peter Pan. I think she was a better fit for Peter than Wendy was.


I don't think it was Disney, but I also like Thumbelina, the little mouse girl from Fivel Goes West, and the fairy from Fern Gully.
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>>18043370
Also, female, age 24
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This has been bugging me a lot lately. So I'm a kissless 22yr virgin. I know for a fact I won't be make the first move in a very long time when it comes to dating but I fear that because of this good matches will end up leaving. My small perception of the female population is that all women want the man to make the first move and if they don't it's good bye to you sir. Assuming actually women use this board I'm just wondering how many of you actually hate men who let's say for the first while of dating are too worried and nervous to make a move but will get comfortable and make moves later on.
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>>18041994
I had this shit when I turned 16.
I wouldn't say it as "deal with it".
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>>18043342

Oh.

Well, I've only had sex twice. The first time (when I did cum), was 6 years ago. I don't remember it. But, it wasn't a good experience. The 2nd time I had sex was 3 years ago, and I didn't cum at all
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>>18043375

Women don't really expect them to but it's not something they're totally used to, especially if they're really pretty. They get nervous too. I have low self-esteem so I assume if they don't go out of their way to talk or flirt I'll assume they're not interested
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>>18043385

To add to this it's only because I'm also really, really nervous. If I know the guy likes me I'll invite him over and it usually leads to some kind of moment, and after that I'll have the balls to ask them out if they don't already.

Tl;dr no, I don't hate men like that, but too pussy to ask them myself as well
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>>18043368
Wow, fuck you

>>18043325
Male, 25
Can't say I have a favorite, per se, as most are virtuous and feminine, but I do think Belle might rank highest in my mind.
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Both: how willing would you be to date someone of the opposite gender who has the same or equivalent first name as yours? e.g. Alex + Alex, Julia + Julius etc.
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>>18043396
Wow, /lit/ has incredibly bad taste in literature.
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>>18043401
What are some of your favorite books?
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>only 1 reply ;_;

>>18043370
I'm OP, male, 29.
I don't remember that first one.
My favorites were Jasmine and Ariel, because those sexy tops made me feel things even as a kid. lol

You earn bonus points with me for remembering Fivel.

Do you still like Disney princesses? What if your bf treated you like one, every now and then?

>>18043393
Don't you also get sad when girls nowadays don't care about princesses anymore?

>>18043396
>that good feel when my names don't have female versions
That would be awkward, wouldn't it?
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>>18041877
Any highly introverted girls ITT?

I'm a very outgoing and sociable person myself. At the moment I'm dating a very introverted girl who I really like so I'm putting effort into making it work, the conversations are always fluid etc. but it turns out she is very introverted in general when she's not with me.

I knew she was a bit inexperienced, but didn't know until the third date that she's literally a kissless virgin (she is pretty attractive and intelligent I still don't know how she's been single her entire life).

Anyway she really opened up to me last date and I told her we can take slow if she and she said she'd appreciate it.

I'm trying to make things more comfortable for her but we both have busy schedules so I rarely get to see her.


My question is if you were this girl dating me. Would you prefer me to be more more direct and/or try to help you be more sociable or would that just make you more anxious and drain you to fast? Would you prefer keeping your personal space and keeping convos relatively platonic for as long as possible?

Anything else you can think of I'd really appreciate it.
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>>18043393
Wish you would
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>>18043409
>Do you still like Disney princesses? What if your bf treated you like one, every now and then?

I like these movies still for nostalgia. I personally wouldn't want to be treated like one. Anything too extravagant from my partner makes me a little put off. I'm very laid back. I still love girly things like clothing shopping and getting dressed up for special things and for my bf, but I don't really want to be constantly groomed by my partner.
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>>18043405
I know where you're trying to take this, but it won't work because the books I like are gr8

>Moth and Cobweb series
>Dresden Files series
>Emberverse series

well, here's a pic of my bookshelf, that should be more illuminating

>>18043409
I am sad that women these days would rather have some shrill lonely feminist as a role model instead of a strong feminine one

>>18043413
No you don't. Trust me
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>>18043412

As an introverted lady, I make the effort to go out with my bf but within the first 2 hours I'm completely exhausted. I've even stopped going to his family events because we're there for 5+ hours and I'm sitting in a corner alone the whole time. Hes enjoying seeing his family so I don't hold it against him to ignore me the whole time I just don't go anymore.

Its worth a shot to see if it'll help her come out of her she'll but if you do that just check in with her and make sure she's not getting overwhelmed or feeling left out ok?
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>>18043417
Why wouldn't I?
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Girls

Where can I meet introverted girls? Please don't say "online". Because at least where I live... that's a terrible option..
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>>18043422
I'm a dude
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>>18043424
So you're gay? Is that why you said fuck you to me in the first place? Hm.
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>>18043426
Nah I'm not gay
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>>18043417
Christ, you could not be more pleb if you tried.
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>>18043431
Told you it wasn't going to work. Take your sad pretentious memes back to /lit/, child.
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>>18043419
Thank you very much for the reply.

Yeah the first 2 dates she seemed kind of drained after 2ish hours. Thought it was just her tired from work I had no idea. Tbh I would take it for disinterested if she hadn't tell me introverted she is.

This last date was GOAT, saw she was bored so decided fuck it, stole a bottle of wine and took her to a more secluded place under the night sky. Kissing her was awkward af, but after that she opened up and we cuddled and talked for 12 hours in all it was actually pretty fun I think she enjoyed it.

So like minimize other people that she has to deal with and try to keep it short...this may take a while to make progress with her...
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>>18043423
>>18043412 Here

Met her through a mutual friend at a very small house party btw.
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For those of you in relationships:

How long did you know your partner before you were officially boyfriend/girlfriend?

How many dates did you go on before you were boyfriend/girlfriend?

How far had you gone sexually before you were boyfriend/girlfriend?

Never done this before and I know the timing is different for everyone but I'm just curious what the numbers here are.
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>>18043412
If she is really an introvert, I know something about them. For example, they NEED the time to themselves when nobody is around so they can gain the energy. Being with other people is not necessary unenjoyable but is a waiste of an energy while extraverted people gain energy from interaction. So seeing each other rarely is actually may be comfortable for her.
And yeah, this would take a long run since introverted people usually don't trust people easily but slowly get used to them.
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>>18043444
I knew my boyfriend for about 4 years before dating him.

We dated/hung out several times a week for about 5 months before he asked me to be his girlfriend. We took it really slow in the beginning.

I had two exs that I went all the way with before him. I don't know how many he had. My guess is about 5-7 partners before me. I never wanted to know, but I knew he was not a virgin.
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>>18043445
>. For example, they NEED the time to themselves when nobody is around so they can gain the energy.
Haha I wish you had told me this a few hours ago. Was messaging her and she basically explicitly told me she needs her alone time.

>So seeing each other rarely is actually may be comfortable for her.
Boring the fuck out of me though. Passed up two pull last night because things started getting more serious with her...I'm not sure I can do this...but I will stay stronk.
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>>18043437

>Met her through a mutual friend at a very small house party btw.

Welll shit. I have never been to a house party before. Infact, I don't know anyone who does that
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Girls:

Hungout with a friend last night and he had his friends that are girls come over too. Ended up hitting it off with a cute girl and we cuddled a little on the couch and made out. But it was getting late and one of her friends had a taxi called. She gave me like a quick goodbye kiss and they left immediately so I didn't have time to get her number.

My friend gave me her number, is it creepy to text her from this scenario? I've got enough social proof so it shouldn't be weird right?
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>>18043456
>Infact, I don't know anyone who does that
I don't even go to these things usually. Tbh the few I've been to were pretty gay and boring too. I go to this guy's shit because he's a good professional contact. His gf who I know less well than him but is also sort of my friend (same graduating class), brought her friend to this thing. Only reason I hit on her is because she was the only girl there to begin with, but she turned out to be pretty well read so it was fun talking to her.
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>>18043454
Yeah, it's fine if you're not ok with dealing with all of this and want to quit but you should tell her asap. It may be one of the reasons she was alone before you. In case if you really care for her and want to try the reward would be high. If things between you work out you'll get the most loyal and loving person beside you and also a good friend who will support you and you'll probably never regret it. It's about you and your purposes.
I was on your shoes except I'm a girl and that guy was an introvert.
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>>18043472
>and that guy was an introvert.
*is
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>>18043469

Oh
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grills:

what should I get this grill I wanna take out besides flowers? I was thinking I'd make a better impression if I got her flowers for valentine's

I'm not really into it and she's not really into the whole valentine's shit either, but previous experiences have shown that they still like it anyway

she's in a kind of art school, if that's of any use
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Looking to date this chinese girl that is an exchange student at my uni. She will only be here for this semester so I only really want a short term relationship. I'm a 6/10 on looks (ginger, white, otter mode with great abs, no baby face). However, I am short (5ft 6).

I've already been with her to some events, I've been to the symphony with her and friends and to a number of restaurants. She thinks i am funny but other than that she isn't looking at me romantically. I do know that she is interested in me because my roommate said she wanted to meet me even before we met.

What do I do /adv/? I want to date this girl but I'm not sure she is open nor closed to the idea of dating me
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>>18041877
Women,
Do you ever feel especially close to female animals, like say a mother doggo who is pregnant?
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>>18043476
>*is
Fuck I was afraid of this. I was kind of hoping I could change her.

Thanks for the advice. I think I should break it off with her. I really like her but I don't think I'm the best guy for her because I'm leaving the country for my career in two years. And I enjoy nightlife and having big social circles too much.

I just hope this doesn't hurt her too much, she really spilled her guts to me last time.
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>>18043493

She'll date you for that Green Card.

One of my friends just started dating a Chinese student. He already moved in with her. She's literally always on his dick. He doesn't even have time for vidya anymore.
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>>18043500
I don't think she is looking to marry me though. Both of us are incredibly smart, but she is smarter than me. Regardless of her intentions im just looking to date her for a semester.
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>>18043494
Women seem to like male dogs a whole fucking lot
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>>18043199
would sooner die fighting and you can infer from her post that she prioritizes fidelity and fairness ahead of her own desires, wtf are you even butthurt over in this instance?

>>18043209
send one with a shirt on first

>>18043245
to go back to your initial metaphor: the cat isn't out of the bag yet but she heard it meowing and suspects it's in there so she's attempting to confirm. if you're that adamant about deflecting I'd do what the other anon said and remind her that asking her bf would be more appropriate than asking you

>>18043272
really doubt you're a creep. what makes you think crush is scared of you?

>>18043279
clarify what you're asking a bit pls? I've read it 4 times now and I'm still not quite sure I follow. what feelings are or were you having (or maybe having?) and what outcome are you hoping for with her?

>>18043281
take "making the first move" to mean "being the first to express an interest" and yeah, most of us prefer it when the guy is who takes the initiative there. as for physically making a move, it's fine if you don't do that right away, many would actually appreciate not feeling rushed into that, and most would assume you're simply not interested after all if you end up waiting *too* long

>>18043291
when you feel like you're not getting what you want it of it and it's not worth your time to pursue further
when a person is interested in another person, they prioritize them as much as they can get away with, esp in the beginning
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>>18043493
huh, maybe you should try asking her out
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>>18043503

But you could be her ticket to a permanent residency in the US...
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>>18043511
She's very stereotypical in terms of being a shy chinese woman. I would think that if I just asked her out without some good experiences between us first that she would say no.
>>18043525
I don't think she needs me to get to the US. She has a 4.0 in mathematics and economics and is doing graduate-level research about worker migrations in china. She's already admitted to a grad school. If anything the US would snatch her up in a day if she applied for permanent residency
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>>18043465
nah, just say you got her number from your friend
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>>18043493
Yeahhh she might just be interested in your friendship or something.
All you can do it ask her out and take whatever response you get. She might be down with the casual relationship that you both know will end, or she might be like "Why would I get attached to someone I know I'm gonna have to leave?"
Or she could be like "I'm not interested in you altogether".
Only thing to do is give it a shot.
>>18043490
For starters, is this the first date or something? Because gifts on the first date no matte what is really awkward.

Secondly, gifts are always better when they're personal, rather than the default commercialized gifts. If she's an art student, get her some supplies or something. Like if her medium is drawing, get some nice colored pencils. If she's a painter, get a brush set.
Or you can use basically anything else you know about her. Does she like X band? Get a CD or rip a playlist if you're cheap/broke lol.

But again, gifts are kind of a, 5th-to beyond date kind of thing in my mind. Frankly, I never exchange gifts with anyone unless we've actually got the official title of "bf/gf".
>>18043465
I'd say its probably ok with this specific set up. You can just text "hey it's anon, I didn't get the chance to get your number from you before you left so I asked -insert friend's name here- for it"

Just do not send multiple texts. If she never responds to that, then that's your hint. If she's genuinely interested in you and you weren't just a one night fling, then she will jump at the chance to contact you back.
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>>18043490
single flower with paintbrush lashed to the stem, bonus points if bristles and blossom are same shape
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>>18043444
I'm kind of curious about this myself, since the last time I was in a relationship I was 16 and high school is very different from college/adulthood dating.
Particularly the sex part. Because I mean, back in high school it was basically expected that you didn't have sex until you were together. But in adulthood, basically everyone I've ever talked to has said 99% of romantic relationships start from a fwb type situation and evolve from there, and I'd be hard pressed to find a guy who is willing to date me before we bang.
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>>18043530
I know that I will eventually have to ask her out. I'm just concerned because i believe she will turn me down if I don't do some things with her first. Both of us did martial arts growing up and she and I both have large respect for parents and family honor. I know this does sound crazy, but as a rich asian girl I feel like she will deny me just because she thinks her parents would flip out if they knew I was white and american.

I know her parents have heard of me. But they think that I am this funny cool white guy that is a local who is showing her around the city we live near
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>>18043396
Trying to think of what the male equivalent of Caitlin is lol.
Regardless, I don't think it would bother me too much, since you usually aren't referring to yourself in 3rd person a lot. I have good friends who are Caitlin variants and I don't feel weird calling out their names or anything.

I think I would actually have a harder time dating someone with my dad's name. That'd be very weird to me, I'd probably have to exclusively call him by a nick name lol.
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Side question to all, how many fucking captchas do yall go through on average here goddamn, feels like I have to do at least 5 before any of them work. 4chan's tryna shill those passes huh.

>>18043542
Well, from what I do know about Asian cultures, yes that race mixing thing will kind of be a bigger deal to them than here in the American mindset, where this is more of a common practice.

I had a Japanese exchange student stay with my family in high school, I asked her once about boys and dating. She said in Japan at least foreigners are cool to "date" but you would never consider marrying them lol.
Though with her limited vocab I got the impression that "date" meant "fuck" lol. Like Japanese people would fool around with foreigners but never get into anything serious.
But, that's Japan, she's Chinese. It could be different, but I'd doubt it'd be that much different.

But, the good news is, I think that's actually beneficial to you. If she's interested in the same thing you are, short term dating that you both acknowledge will end when she goes back to China, then she probably wouldn't care what her parent's think. She'd probably just not tell them or something. It's temporary anyway.
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>>18043496
she know you're leaving in 2 yrs? make that known if not, and do what you normally do and just invite her to come along to everything. like really, ALL of it. be kinda distant. her interest will start to wane soon enough just by virtue of sheer realization that your temperaments aren't well suited to one another, and you can part ways without wondering if you fucked her up by splitting right after she opened up to you etc
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>>18043509
Whenever we pass one another she gives me this very unhappy look or avoids looking at me completely. I can't help but look at her, she's really nice looking. I make excuses to walk by her area because sometimes she does really ridiculously cute things. Whenever I try and talk to her her eyes go really wide and I can't get more than a few words out of her. I've asked other people for advice and they were pretty clear she wants nothing to do with me. But I can't help myself.
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>>18043385
>>18043391
Thanks for the feed back
>>18043509
So you're saying that if a man doesn't make the first move in terms like a kiss or whatever then it's over for him?
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Hey guys,

I met and kissed some guy yesterday while drunk and he asked me out today and I felt bad to turn him down so I said yes.

But now he's acting really strange, keeps saying he's in love, that I'm his princess, that he wants to marry me. Plus he was being really sketchy about where to go out, in the end I had to make him agree to go out somewhere I know.

Worst of all we come from the same country but he speaks another language and he doesn't know English, he's using google translate to talk to me. I have no idea how we would be able to communicate

Should I just abort this whole thing?
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>>18043530
it's to make a good impression so that she'd go on a first date, I'd have 'em delivered

I did roughly the same thing a while ago with a diff girl and "it worked" so that's why I'm thinking of trying it out, figured it would be nice

eh I'll see tomorrow, should probably drop it altogether
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>>18043494
I cannot say I've ever had that thought process. I've only ever had male pets, just because they're typically easier to deal with. I've always felt close to any animal I've had a lot of contact with. Hell, I even grieved for my friends cat when he passed away because I grew up with that cat too by association.
It never has had anything to do with the animal's sex though. Just if I loved it or not.
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Would girls date a guy with a chronic disease
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>>18043566
ok well in that case you maybe are behaving just a touch creepily lol
solution: stop doing that

>>18043567
I'm saying things develop and timelines count

you can express interest without anything physical transpiring, you can explore reciprocated interest together without anything physical transpiring, a kiss doesn't have to be the first form of physical contact, and if you don't ease into it with other stuff first NOR take the plunge and go for the kiss then at first it'll be taken as a "nothing out of the ordinary, he's a gentleman and we're still getting to know each other" but if that state of limbo is maintained for too long it'll eventually become "welp this is confusing, i thought he like me romantically, guess i read the situation wrong and he just wants to be friends?" at which point it starts being over for him
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>>18043560
> If she's interested in the same thing you are, short term dating
Youre right that is a good point but how can I gauge if she is looking for that without asking her? She's the type of person who denies something when you ask her about it.
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>>18043591
>stop doing that
yeah, but how
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>>18043584
depends on the girl, the guy, and the disease, so yes/no/maybe
>what is it?
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>>18043375
Not all women have the same tastes regarding things such as dominance and gender roles.
Me personally, I have a strong attraction to dominant men who do take the lead and take the initiative, but that doesn't mean I always wait for them to come to me. Sometimes I'll go after them too. I would not say I "hate" them.

Thing is, this is pretty universal. EVERYONE is sitting around thinking "If that person were interested in me, they would have approached me". Women think like this too, it could be entirely that they're just jumping the gun and assuming you're disinterested because you're not saying anything. Someone has to be the one to break that line of thinking for anything to happen, and well me, I'm a firm believer in you can't expect anything to ever happen unless you do it yourself. Can't trust anyone but yourself to get the job done. That's why if I want something enough, I will take the swing even though it's not my preference to do so.
The other thing I would note, is that women tend to communicate a lot more through body language. If you don't know how to read and communicate with body language, learn to. Theres more to communication than strict verbal communication. While you're thinking "no girl is interested in me because no girl will ever verbally talk to me" you're likely ignoring the 3-4 girls in the room who are giving you heavy signs through body language.
If the /sed/ thread is still up, I recommend going into it and reading the OP. Good resources there, some self help videos that can do ya wonders.

All in all though, nobody wants an insecure mate who lacks confidence, men or women. Once you work up the nerve to stop being so anxious and afraid of the rejection, you'll have a much easier time. Get that confidence up boy.
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>>18043599
self control
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>>18043576
Kill yourself, slut.
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>>18043599
stop being ugly lol
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>>18043604
Well, shit
That's what I've been trying to do.

>>18043609
I've been trying to do that too, but my ugliness is on the inside and I don't know how to fix that.
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>>18043601
Crohn's disease
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>>18043325
F/21
Idk, I was never much a princess girl growing up. I liked the animal Disney films far more than the princess movies lol.
My favorite "princesses" (by definition they technically aren't, but are sometimes included in the princess line up), probably Mulan and Lilo. Mulan and Lilo and Stitch were always my favorite Dis movies.

If I had to pick an actual princess by definition, I suppose it'd be Ariel or Jasmine.
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>>18043576
He's doesn't understand what the concept of a "date" is nor how to do a first date. This guy is socially awkward and probably has little experience with women. As a guy, I don't talk about anything in terms of a woman's relationship standards until the 3rd date. Just abort the whole thing. Tell him that you have something else going on and that you don't have time for a relationship.
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I'm a white guy, and I typically prefer dating white girls. But lately all the hottest girls I've met have been black, and I've really warmed up to the idea of trying to hook up with one.

My situation, which may be all in my head, is this: I like bdsm sex, and it's hard enough to get some girls into it, but I imagine a black girl might think I have a slavery fetish and be totally turned off. One of the girls is actually African (from Angola) and I have no idea how she'd react to my desire to tie her up.

Of course this is getting ahead of myself, I'm still just flirting with these girls, but I'd like to know a black girl's opinion on bondage. I've seen some amazing porn (Ana Foxxx, omg) but I know porn doesn't always translate to the real world.
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>>18043607
I never slept with anyone, and I do realise I made horrible decisions.

You're not giving good advice
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>>18043619
Step into that situation slowly. Just have normal sex and then ask her about her fetishes. Try and suggest the idea of bdsm. You're getting to the point where your fetish is pretty rare, so you will have a greater ability of having bdsm sex if you reach out to a bdsm community online
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>>18043594
You really can't mate. You know this chick far better than any of us, if you don't have that answer we most certainly cannot tell you.
Only thing I could think of is start posing hypothetical to her. "Would you ever date an American?" "What's dating like to you, should you only date people you think you'll have a future with or would you date someone short term just for fun?" shit like that.
She will most likely put 2 and 2 together though, so it's not that subtle. Probably be less of a waste of your time to just bite the bullet and ask bluntly.
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>>18043577
Yeah, idk maybe its just me but I would feel very uncomfortable receiving any gift no matter how small or inexpensive from a guy I've never even been on a single date with before. Because that's kind of like, in a way, forcing her to go on a date with you.
"Well fuck this guy spent money on me, I'd be kind of a bitch to just say, 'thanks for the gift but no lol' so I guess I have to go on a pity date with him now so I don't look like a gold digging cunt to everyone else. I'd also look just as much like a shallow, ingreateful cunt if I rejected the present, so it's a lose lose on me".
That's the way I see it personally, but I'm also overly conscientious of not hurting other people and being as nice and polite as possible, to the point where I will put other's feelings and emotions over my own. I have a hard time being even slightly selfish.
So normal people might see it different
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>>18043576
what the fuck, yes, obviously. how is this even something you're questioning??

...
unless you're one of those "refugees welcome! i support and accept you!" types. then no. don't abort. go find out what you've done.
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So asked a girl out for a second date. She then refereed to our plans as 'our thing' when she brought it up later in the week.

Is it not a date? do girls avoid using the word date. Shes French as well, and i've heard they don't really 'date', but i thinks shes familiar with how it goes over here.
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>>18043576
Yeahhhh I'd abort. If you ain't into him, you ain't into him.
I'd keep a better eye on your drunk self though too, so you don't get into these messes. Drunks make bad decisions that sober versions of themselves then have to deal with later.
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>>18043245
Update

Joked about it and she projects onto me that is cool if I have one and she'd send snaps of them if I wanted

I don't know if she's joking but fuck man shits weird
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>>18043647
I mean, I'm not French but if I wasn't 100% sure it was a date I'd avoid using that phrase like the plague unless I be wrong, because fuck you can't come back from that lol.
Was the first "date" firmly established as a date? Like did either or both of you use that word specifically, because then I would assume she should guess this is likely another date.

But overall, I think you're reading too much into it. It's just a matter of phrasing.
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>>18043612
there's no real trick to it, you just have to decide it and then your actions follow your decision

and you're not ugly on the inside, you're just a dude with a crush on a pretty girl in your life, what's ugly about that?
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>>18043659
Met on tinder, so yes i'd imagine she thought it was a date. First date was just a 3 hour coffee.
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>>18043412
This might be an odd question, but how often do you write at her? How often does she contact you?
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>>18043613
eh shit happens, that one's not *that* big a deal just gotta find a girl who's laidback and understanding which is def within the realm of possibility
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>>18043626
Going slow is definitely the right approach. But bdsm is probably the most popular it's ever been. I mean hell, Fifty Shades is a thing.
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>>18043664
Yeah, she should be aware its a date then. Again though, I don't think there was anything that cryptic in her choice of phrasing. The fact you met on a dating site, and she's meeting you a second time, definitely means shes interested.
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>>18043562
>she know you're leaving in 2 yrs
Yeah, it's one of the first things I told her before we even dated because it's crucial to my career (I'm in academia). She is also moving out of the city next year. Last date she was like kind of fuck talked about changing her plans to stay closer (and some imagining life together tier jokes, but not that bad).

>and do what you normally do and just invite her to come along to everything. like really, ALL of it. be kinda distant. her interest will start to wane soon enough just by virtue of sheer realization that your temperaments aren't well suited to one another, and you can part ways without wondering if you fucked her up by splitting right after she opened up to you etc
Ah yes I can see this working exactly as you say. Thanks. Kind of wish I could've gotten her out of shell though, she has so much potential. I hope she finds someone soon.
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>>18043671
True but 50 shades sold 1.25 million copies so far. There are currently 308 million women in the US. BDSM is still a minority interest in US women's fetishes.
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>>18043653
all the shame and
>gotta keep this a secret
you've come to associate with it? she doesn't perceive it like that, that's all

all of which should be irrelevant considering she has a bf
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>>18043665
>how often do you write at her? How often does she contact you?
That's actually interesting. The first time I messaged her I made a joke she wrote back something really formal and we set up a date in like 4 messages (should've been my first clue lol).

After that second date was set up in few messages. She actually apologized for not messaging me more and I was like you not spamming me is one of the things I like about you.

After it got serious on the third date I started messaging her more. Also because she said one of her friends looked at our chats and thought I was "playing her" (that hore reads too much Cosmo probably, thinking text messages are important).

Anyway today I got the message that my texts have been really draining to her.
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>>18043707

Man I actually really want to keep dating her desu but I'm just too scared I will end up hurting her more than helping her.

I don't know. I'll think about it some more before doing anything.
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>>18043684
I don't think I've ever dated a girl who was totally vanilla. My first girlfriend sucked my dick so much I was raw. (Her way of making up for not wanting vaginal sex, she had a pregnancy phobia. She also let me play with her butt.) The last girl I dated liked to be straight up choked out, and facefucked. Facial Abuse style. She was fucking crazy though.
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>>18043618
>>18043646
>>18043652
Yeah I called it off when he started asking for sex. He hasn't replied yet but maybe I should block him?

Also for the refugee welcome thing we're both living in the UK but come from the same country. He's from the Muslim side though.
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>>18043717
>Also for the refugee welcome thing
Ok not to get political here but do not hang out with this guy. He doesn't speak your language, asks for sex up front and is not bound as harshly by UK laws.

Not all immigrants are bad but the bad people are concentrated within the muslim immigrant population. It is not your fault if he tries to do something bad to you but it is your fault that you didnt take steps to avoid him. You don't know what family he is from or what his friends are saying he can do with you.

Block him and make sure he knows it is over.
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How is an asspie loner like me supposed to "put myself out there."
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>>18043716
I feel like she is a typical submissive chinese girl. I'm just nervous she will deny me due to her parents and her culture
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>>18043681
cheers m8, and bless you for caring so much. seriously. speaking of which, be prepared to get the impulse to comfort and reassure her along the way. it's key that you resist doing that, otherwise you create hope in her that she'll be very very tempted to cling onto and then you're stringing her along without having meant to and it all *really* goes to shit worse than if you'd just cut and run to begin with. thus,
>be kinda distant
not cold or cruel, just matter of fact and straightforward

talk positively about each of your separate future plans whenever the topic arises too, especially hers. keep the excitement of whatever's motivating her to move fresh in her mind basically

dating seriously doesn't seem to be in the cards for you guys but you hit it off well and it's easy as fuck nowadays to keep in touch across long distances, if things end amicably then congrats, you've prob each just made a lifelong friend lol

anyway good luck to you both
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>>18043716
but all of that is beside the point. I just want to know if black girls view bondage differently than other girls because it superficially resembles bad racial history.
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>>18043725
I do understand. I'm blocking him now.

I also get what you're saying about immigrants but I'm also kind of an immigrant in the same situation and from the same country so it's kind of weird for me to apply that logic for this
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>>18043734
Cheers. Thanks for all the solid advice.
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>>18043717
yes block him, and in that case i'm surprised you didn't already know better
maybe i'm being too harsh on you here though, apologies if so, just pls learn from this k?
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>>18043743
That's fair. I'm just saying that if you two were to make a list separately of appropriate behaviors and what another individual's actions or lifestyle implies, you two would come up with different lists.

Unfortunately, those lists deviate the most when it comes to sexual consent and sexual/romantic relationships
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>>18043726
go be around people, don't try to hide yourself away as much as possible the entire time and focus on escaping quickly like usual, be open to seeing what happens when you give shit a try, don't get discouraged when things don't turn out in ways you're comfortable with because that happens sometimes but only sometimes

what are you seeking to accomplish?
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>>18043137
It's mostly a meme. There is a small minority of white women who do fetishize black men, but otherwise black men are rated very lowly on the attractiveness/dating scale.
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>>18042656
I don't know how close you are as best friends, but if you're very close I'd suggest being as straight as possible, otherwise do something like "I think you're really cute/great/smart and I'd like to spend more time with you, how do you feel about doing X with me this weekend?".
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>>18043018
Some girls, especially at college level, like hanging out without labels to the activity to see if they like you first.
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>>18043602
Thanks for the feed back, I'm trying online dating but yeah nothing is coming from that since it's just a shopping catalog for women. Maybe once my job starts back up again I'll be able to get myself out there. Since I'm done with school currently don't have that but I do have some friends so maybe they would have people to meet.
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>>18043780
It's a shopping catalog all around. Online dating is honestly the worst form of meeting someone imo.
It's inorganic and robotic, you're not seeing a person, you're seeing a stat sheet. You're also skipping steps in my eyes. They call them boyFRIENDs/GirlFRIENDs for a reason. You're never supposed to be searching for an instant relationship, you're supposed to be looking for friends that may or may not develop into more.
But online dating, since it's so easy to just ghost someone and swipe through profiles, just kind of breeds this mentality of "i can do better" in everyone, so they never actually stop swiping to actually try something.

To me, the best place to meet people is through friends. You're friends with people because you have mutual interests right? And they're friends with people because they also have mutual interests, ergo, the friend of your friend will likely have something in common with you too. Dating on hard mode is usually when you have very few friends, or none due to a move or something.
I digress, those are just like, my opinions man. You do you. But I still recommend everyone work on confidence and self worth. A little can go a long way.
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>>18043762
>what are you seeking to accomplish?
I would like to get married and have children someday
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Sex Question

I'm a legs man, I love nice thighs, thick or strong. My fetish is strong girls, and I was analyzing my own sexuality and realized that I think my sexual behavior is a little narcissistic because I get more mental pleasure out of making a woman cum than I do cumming physically, meaning sex is %100 about me.

Am I right in my analysis or does it just not matter?
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>>18043325
/co/ here to school you all. The ACTUAL official Disney princesses are Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora, Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, Pocahontas, Mulan, Tiana, Rapunzel and Merida. That's it, full stop.

The OFFICIAL rankings are

God Tier: Belle, Rapunzel, Mulan

Good Tier: Tiana, Pocahontas

Okay Tier: Cinderella, Aurora, Snow White

Bad Tier: Jasmine

Shit Tier: Ariel, Merida
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>>18043444
We were best friends for 3 years beforehand

No dating phase, just became a couple straight away

We didn't do anything sexual before that. If you mean in general, I was a complete kissless virgin, and he had kissed one person before me.
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>>18043325
Ariel
Snow White
Belle
Anna from Frozen

Man, 23
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>>18043804
>Mulan
Mulan married a general kek.
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>>18043794
nifty, good on ya. when you say asspie loner, to what degree are we talking here? is more of a difficulty connecting with other people thing or more of a prefer not to bother thing?
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>>18043831
Fun fact: you don't have to be an actual princess to be a Disney Princess
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>>18043843
>You don't have to be a princess to be a princess
Then does it really matter? Disney ain't followin rules either, why should I?
I've seen Lilo up there with the "Disney Princess" lineup in the past.
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>>18043804
Leia is a princess, and owned by Disney, but not part of the Princess line of products. Is she a Disney princess?
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>>18043845
If you're not Japanese and using the term hikkimori, then it probably is too late.
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>>18043800
you're a millennial, aren't ya? we're all a little narcissistic. unfortunate hallmark of our generation. anyway, it matters only as much as you insist on making it matter. you get as many points for that making that post as i get for making this one
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>>18043852
Yes it does matter. Sometimes they have sort of "guest princesses" to the line like Tink or Alice, but they aren't official.

>>18043853
You can be both part of Disney and an actual princess yet not a Disney Princess. So no she is not a Disney Princess(tm)
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>>18043868
Nah bro, I don't think any of that actually matters at all, to anything lol.
The mouse can fart on a drawing and say "That's a princess now".
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why are princesses' mothers being dead/absent or wicked/shitty/awful/indifferent such an apparently beloved trend in the Disney universe?
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Should I read into this at all?

This girl sent me a picture of herself all "made up" asking what I was doing last night. She invited to me to meet up with her and her friends. Her friend then proceeded to text me and inviting me and told me how much this girl wanted me there. I didn't end up going for as I'm sick as fuck right now.

Should I read into that? I would lowkey get with the one girl. She has been texting me a couple times a week (her starting the conversation) and always tells me about how funny I am.
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>>18043876
>The mouse can fart on a drawing and say "That's a princess now"
Exactly. See now you're getting it anon. That's all that makes a Disney Princess, and that's why it's important to keep the official parameters in mind in such a serious discussion.

Now if the topic were just "favorite Disney female protagonist/character" or "favorite princess from a Disney film/property", that would be different.
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>>18043880
Common theme in the old fairy tales they're based on. (Because think about it, back in those days it was actually kind of common to die in horrific ways.)

Tragedy also moves a plot, and since a mother's love is one of the more sacred things, losing that or not having that is a real tear jerker.

You'll notice though, this is a dying trend. Only recent films I can list off my head to have dead parents are Frozen and Lilo. Lilo had this whole theme of family though, and how family can come in many forms so it kind of fits. Plus, the parents had been dead since before the movie started. You would have never even known how they died if Lilo didn't give the 20 second explanation in the middle of the movie. Frozen, idk. Didn't care for it much so I've never even watched it all the way though. That was the last "tragic" disney parent death I can remember. Haven't seen moana though yet, so idk anything about it.
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>>18043894
Kek, I'm really not though, because I don't think it's important at all to consider that in discussion, but that's because this is in no way shape or form anything I'm that invested in.
I'd consider those "guest princesses" to be disney princesses regardless of what the mouse thinks. In the end even, it doesn't matter at all what disney says is official and what isn't, if the vast majority of their fanbase disagrees. More people, more power.
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>>18043880
A princess with a proper mother should ideally never be in peril, because her mother is looking out for her.

In order to save a princess, they have to get into trouble first. Removing the mother removes the safety net.
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>>18043880
It started after Walt's mother died and he blamed himself.

Just kidding, motherlessness, orphanage, and evil step-parents are themes found within stories throughout time and across cultures. They add conflict and tragedy.
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>>18043901
Completely heritical. You're opinion has been purged from the discussion.
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>>18043916
>I don't like your opinion so stfu :(
K lol
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>>18043890
Chick wants you, what the fuck are you asking? It's painfully obvious, if you wanna get with that, then go take her up on her many offers to hang out, or make a followup plan yourself.
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>>18043929
Sure anon, come to D23 where the actual fanbase you speak of is and try to tell them your favorite Disney Princess is Lilo. More People More Power remember?
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How do I let this guy down?
We only hung out once & he's extremely nice and cute but his question was
> will you be my valentine
How do I say no nicely? I'm interested but I'm not sure since I don't really know him.
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>>18043945
If you're gonna be super autistic about it I guess lol.
I think the vast majority of rational normal people having a casual conversation is not going to drop a brick in their pants and REEEEE over someone saying Alice is their fave dis princess.
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I'm getting this for a girl as a surprise Valentine's Day gift and need to put a little message on the receipt (price is taken off). What should I write?

So far I have "a cute cat for a cute girl", and "Happy Valentine's Day!
-Your not-so-secret admirer"

Not happy with either. Help pls.
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>>18043959
First one was far less cringy.
I hope you've at least had multiple conversations with this girl lol.
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>>18043956
>I think the vast majority of rational normal people having a casual conversation is not going to drop a brick in their pants and REEEEE over someone saying Alice is their fave dis princess.

Don't you know the Disney fanbase is one of the most autistc around? Baka...
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>>18043963
We've been dating for a couple months. The cat one you're referring to? Think I should go with it? Is a gift bag+card included for $4 too much?
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>>18043968
Lol yeah, with that amount of time you can basically write whatever you want and she's bound to find it cute.
Cat one was my fave though.
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>meet new girl
>spent night with her and friends
>she keeps looking at me, smiling at me, giving me extra attention
>shes cute and funny, she seems to dig me all night
>gives subtle hint that she is looking for bf
>says she likes me and finds me funny
>ask her out
>she says no


This is like an on-going meme in my life, why does she act like she's into me?
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>>18043991
Because what you thought were hints actually weren't.
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How much do you travel to see your partner? If you're not seeing anyone now, how much did you travel to see your best ex? State your gender.
Use the time unit (30 min, 1 hour...).
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>>18043289


>Weight
If she's cute she's cute. I don't dislike "chubby" girls in general like I don't like slim girls in general.

>Scars
dunno... never thought about it.... I think it's quite cute sometimes

>Stretch marks (before or after weight loss)
dunno

>Height (tall girls gross you out?)
no

>Arm hair
insignifikant

>Or veins you can see in titties
hot
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>>18043955
If you're actually interested and are prepared from him to come back and try to set up another date you could just tell him something like Valentine's Day is too much pressure for a first date then tell him to try his luck again next week.
>>
What do guys think of girls as paramedics? Is it seen as a masculine profession?
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>>18044151
No. It's pretty gender-neutral imo.
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>>18043837
More of a prefer not to bother. People aren't mystifying to me or anything, I'm just socially inept
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>>18041877
Girls,
would you be ok if the guy acted somewhat effeminate? Or would it creep most out?
(thinking about girls a lot, keeping up with fashion, cooks)
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>>18044151
I think the work hours is something I'd worry about, not being 'masculine'.
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>>18044259
I've already done shift work on a 24hr rotating roster. I worked in the haematology lab of a hospital as a scientist but found the work boring. As an undergrad I worked at a hotel front desk so I am used to weird hours. I'm 25 if that helps.
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>>18044066
Female
Well, the furthest I've dated was like, the next town over. 20 minute drive. But that was high school, so it was a little bit of a bigger deal.

I'd say the most I'd travel to see a guy is no more than 45 minutes. Because any further and it just means you're gonna have to only see each other a couple times a week, since it'll take almost 2 hours round trip just to see one another, and there's only so much time in the day.
I'm a needy partner I guess, if I can't see them daily I won't be very satisfied. Even if just for a couple minutes.
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>>18044283
Thanks! I asked that because there is a girl who seems like a good potential partner, but she is about 1 hour from me. I am considering going out with her just for us to get to know each other, but probably not more than that.
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Girls

What would you think if you've been dating a guy for a few months. When when you first go to have sex together, he told you that he's never had a girlfriend, and hasn't had sex in 7 years?
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