I feel like I want to fight people, really hard, every single

>>18031743

Martial arts are not about "subjugating" people. The first thing they teach you is the discipline and the responsibility you have in using the knowledge you get. So no, don't try martial arts, They are not the "Fight Club" you are looking for.

>>18031759

Okay so what should I do if I am looking for fight club then?

Also do you have personal experience of martial arts and if so what?

My general question is how can I stop wanting to fight people, but I guess also about how can I get some level of self-confidence. If martial arts give you that, then i'm open to it

>>18031765

I trained for three years when I was younger. I stopped when I got into college. Tae kwon do.

The important thing is that you don't go there to punch people. Most of the time you are doing exercises following the instructor instead of actually fighting.

Anything you become good at can give you "self-confidence". But if you are as angry as you describe, I really recommend against joining a dojo. As I said, it's about the discipline more than the fighting, but you can hurt people if you are not careful.

I'd recommend you talk to someone about the anger issues. Maybe do some training by yourself (running, swimming, etc.). Just pick something where you can't hurt anyone.

>>18031743
>>18031765
18 or older board.

>>18031783
>you don't go there to punch people
>Tae Kwon Do

lol you don't say, kickfag

>>18031783
I understand you

>I'd recommend you talk to someone about the anger issues. Maybe do some training by yourself (running, swimming, etc.). Just pick something where you can't hurt anyone.
What if I *want* to hurt people? Okay, then I shouldn't do Taekwondo in your opinion - maybe I should do boxing or something?

I guess I'm just angry because I've been consistently fucked over in my life and now it's payback time

I often think about just punching random people, why not? Other people do it and get away with it. So what if I go to court, it'll be a first offence so I doubt I'll get put in the slammer, and even if I am who cares? I know people who have been in prison and they survived - in fact it made them tougher. So I don't see why I shouldn't do that really.

>>18031785
I'm 25.

>>18031814
>maybe I should do boxing or something?

I don't have experience there, but no martial art or sport (boxing, wrestling, etc.) is about hurting people, as far as I know. I wouldn't recommend those either.

>I guess I'm just angry because I've been consistently fucked over in my life and now it's payback time

Sorry to hear it, but hurting others won't solve your problem. Go to counseling or therapy and work through your issues.

>>18031818
>Sorry to hear it, but hurting others won't solve your problem.
Er, YES IT FUCKING WILL

Seriously are you dense? Look at anybody who has ever been successful in life. Look at Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. They fucked people in the ass left right and centre. Bill Gates was a ruthless capitalist who bullied all of his competitors out of the marketplace. Steve Jobs fucked over his friend Woz, by lying to him about how much cash their computers (designed by Woz) were selling for, and then giving him a fraction of the actual profits. And he fucked over many others.

So it's patently FALSE that "hurting others won't solve your problem" - in fact it's NECESSARILY TRUE that ANY SUCCESS that you have in life will NECESSARILY hurt other people

So how can you justify your lie?

>>18031822

Do you think punching random people on the street will make you like Bill Gates? Are you crazy?

Also, your problem is "anger issues". Hurting people won't solve that. If your problem was "my business is failing", maybe imitating Bill Gates would help. But not to solve "anger issues".

>>18031743
Wow a real life Dexter Morgan

>>18031835
>Do you think punching random people on the street will make you like Bill Gates? Are you crazy?
No I don't, but that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that if you want to succeed in life, you have to hurt other people. Unfortunately that's the reality of life. As I said, I think it is *necessarily true* that any success entails that somebody else is getting hurt. If you are successful in landing a job, for instance, it means that another applicant was not successful in landing that job.

>Also, your problem is "anger issues". Hurting people won't solve that.
Are you sure about that? Many people overcome anger / self-esteem issues by getting into boxing. Or another sport in which they might hurt others. Even if they don't hurt someone physically, they hurt them morally, which may well hurt them materially as well - lost earnings, lost confidence which hurts their material gains in life.

So again I'd disagree. I think that hurting people DOES solve anger issues.

Most people are angry when they feel slighted. When they feel their authority has been disrespected / when their self-esteem has been knocked. Then they knock others, by whatever means (earning money, winning over a girl [which knocks whoever else may be interested in that girl], or punching people, whatever it is), which restores their self-esteem.

Wouldn't you agree?

why is anyone replying to this faggy fucking edgelord

you truly are a gay cunt lmao

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>>18031871
Hahahahahaahahahahahaahah just reading this shit makes me cringe, seriously tho how edgy can a cunt get, man you are a bitch ass beta

OP, I've been boxing for about two years now.
When I started training, I was very similar to you.
When I'd get into the ring, I'd get angry, regardless of whether or not I was winning.

Part of becoming a good boxer is learning to control your emotions. If you let yourself get angry and swing wildly, you'll gas yourself out and the other guy will whoop you.

I wholeheartedly recommend finding a boxing gym in your area, OP.

See, anger issues have a hard time being taken seriously here, because any expression of them comes off as edgy and adolescent. I don't blame you, because most people grow out of this kind of stuff by their early 20s.

Unfortunately, it goes beyond that in some people. Personally, my violent daydreams have completely overshadowed any sexual ones, which is a whole thing I'm sure I'll have to deal with for the rest of my life. It's a difficult dynamic for someone with a strong sense of ethics and a belief in body autonomy.

I don't know why I'm like this. Maybe it was my parents? Maybe I have an underlying mental disorder? Who knows, and I guess it doesn't matter. I just felt like sharing this, because nobody will take me seriously if I try to make my own thread, either.

The other anon is right about martial arts being about discipline, but I think you're on the right track. I chose to look into an MMA studio nearby and maybe compete in some local stuff. Exercise of any kind is good for the mind, body, and soul, you should begin if you don't already.

>>18031891
edgy cunt #2 spotted
or samefag

>>18031743

I've done martial arts for 10+ years (MMA and muay thai mostly) and I'd recommend them highly for almost anyone, but it sounds like your motivation for it is somewhat fucked. If you'd like to do it just to fight people, you probably won't have the discipline for it. But as an outlet for frustration and stress it works wonders simply because after a good workout you're too knackered to feel anything but tired. Might work for you too. You also sound like someone who should get knocked around a bit by someone who knows what they're doing to bring you down a notch, so there's that.

>>18031897
Yeah, maybe. I just sit around and read all day, but sure.

But look man, you don't think there is anyone out there who legitimately has these problems? I struggle to find a word more appropriate than "plagued" when describing it.

I'm almost 30, man, I know what I'm about by now.

>>18031920
Nah to be honest you don't seem too bad, seems like you have a genuine medical disorder and I'm not one to scoff at that.

BUT God DAMN, OP is literally just an edgy fag trying to act cool and start online arguments to vent some of his anger that his life is shit and he's probably insecure, I don't see him as someone with an actual problem.
Honestly, such, a, fucking, god, damn, gay cunt OP
But u cool mang

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>>18031881
Quite literally that isn't an argument

>>18031920
"No I don't, but that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that if you want to succeed in life, you have to hurt other people. Unfortunately that's the reality of life. As I said, I think it is *necessarily true* that any success entails that somebody else is getting hurt. If you are successful in landing a job, for instance, it means that another applicant was not successful in landing that job."

">Most people are angry when they feel slighted. When they feel their authority has been disrespected / when their self-esteem has been knocked. Then they knock others, by whatever means (earning money, winning over a girl [which knocks whoever else may be interested in that girl], or punching people, whatever it is), which restores their self-esteem."

Like is that anger issues or a little "im so cynicalll"

>>18031938
mate, wasn't trying to start some kind of logical fact based argument, I'm simply stating, that I, anon, think you, OP, are a fucccccking gay cunt

>>18031942
What that is, is someone else, you cunt

>>18031933
I'd probably sound edgier if I gushed about it, but I don't, because I like to be taken seriously.

Though I am starting to think I may have some sort of blood fetish and I'm not sure what to do with that.

>>18031978
accidently tagged u in the reply <3 calling OP A gay cunt dw I know my place
>>18031983
maybe buy a pack of razor blades and go to crank town hehehe <3

alright im going to bed

go fuckyourself OP you're a bitch

>>18031949
Did you get picked on in school?

>>18031991
Oh ok, I forgive you m80

>>18031992
lmao gay cunt suck a dick hahaahahaa

>>18031743
Why not just get into a fight? It's exhilarating, even if you lose. It doesn't hurt, either, it only starts to hurt the next day, unless you get a serious injury, which is rare.

>>18032001
not the OP but I'll take that as a yes

>>18032004
true
suck a dicccck cunt

>>18032012
someone took the fat fucks books in primary school :(

I used to be very passive, but running a grocery store at night has really taken its toll on me, getting into occasional fistfights outside. The abyss stares back. Works to my advantage though.

try Mike Mentzer workout methods. focus on major movement exercises. deadlift, squat, military press.
any cardio should include weight... rowing with resistance, uphill cycling

I'm 46, been there done that. your testosterone is bubbling, you need to channel it to gain, not to destructive or self destructive acts..... or worse yet, try to mask it or bury it

stay hungry, earn the meat you eat, don't carb and sugar out and use insulin asks a calming tool

>>18032016
suuuck a diiiiick cunt lmao

>>18031743
I had a period in my life (early twenties) when I was angry at everyone, angry at the world and angy at myself, I had no direction and wanted to fight.

I started with fitness but that wasn't enough. Eventually I joined boxing classes. People in this thread say "don't do fighting sports if you have this angry attitude" but it's BS. Boxing is therapy for angry young men.

I did boxing for a bit and it was wonderful for two reasons. The first reason is that you actually try to fight people. Not fight-fight as in I'll kill them but fight as in you spar and if you fuck up you get hit. You also try to do the same thing to them. It doesn't even have to be yolo full contact, just practicing punches with a partner is good enough. Hitting the heavy bag is also very good to get rid of your anger.

The second reason is that it'll leave you absolutely exhausted. Boxing is the most tiring sport I've ever done. The warmup kills you but that's just the beginning. At the end of every training you are dead.

So in short I recommend you try out a boxing class.

If you're in Europe, go watch football matches, it's the designated let's-beat-other-people-up space.
You don't sound like you need some nonsensical moral justification for it, but if you do, join Antifa.

>>18031743
Do you have anger management issues? Are you bottling up a lot of hatred within yourself? You might want to start there and understand the why.

go walk into a less than stellar neighbor hood and ask someone to "square up". After you get the shit kicked out of you, report back and let me know how much you still want to fight you whiny bitch.

>>18031884
I see what you mean. Thanks man.

>>18031891
>>18031920
Thanks for responding man, I think you're right. Personally here's my take - most people act out during their teens, that's how they manage to unshackle themselves from their parents, and how they gain independence. Also they push the boundaries - by getting in fights, by committing some petty crime, whatever - it allows them to get the anger and frustrations out of their system before they then have to make their peace with the rules of society and move forward with a career.

I should have done more of that. But maybe i should just go and do some of that stuff now? I'm 25. I keep thinking about travelling for one thing. I just want independence and control over my life - but as it is, I feel like everybody is fucking me in the ass, and I don't fucking like it

>>18031905
>I've done martial arts for 10+ years (MMA and muay thai mostly) and I'd recommend them highly for almost anyone
That's good

>You also sound like someone who should get knocked around a bit by someone who knows what they're doing to bring you down a notch, so there's that.
I just want to get into a fight. A fair fight would be fine. I've never got into a proper fight before (I've been punched but I've never seriously punched someone back - not in the face, at least).

I want to fucking prove myself. I know that if I try I can probably win a fight.

>>18032003
Yeah I want to. Where should I go to pick a fight then?

>>18032023
Interesting. I used to work in a grocery store (not as a manager, just a lackey). I never used force myself, but some customers were hairy, and I had to deny them sales, and hope that they wouldn't punch me.

Also one of my colleagues did physically take things off a guy once - some beer he was trying to steal. He did it very cleverly, waited by the entrance to the shop, looking elsewhere, and snatched it from him as he went to walk out the shop. Never saw any fighting though.

>>18032028
>I'm 46, been there done that. your testosterone is bubbling, you need to channel it to gain, not to destructive or self destructive acts..... or worse yet, try to mask it or bury it
Basically this. You've hit the nail on the fucking head

As for working out, I tried that, but here was my problem. I was working as a web developer (I'm NEET now, I ragequit, which is fucking stupid). And I was going to the gym, by myself, at least 3 times a week.

But it just made me very angry, and very frustrated. I had nobody to compete with, it was hard to set clear-defined goals. And then having to sit down at a desk and be "clever" (passive) all day, it fucking made me angry as fuck.

I've thought a lot about getting into football (soccer, if you're American), because that's a great sport - expends lots of energy, gets you tough (you have to fight for the ball, and trust me, English football/soccer is tougher than American football/soccer). And you're socialising with lads too. Whereas working out by yourself can be lonely and cause you to get angry and shit.

>>18032039
>I had a period in my life (early twenties) when I was angry at everyone, angry at the world and angy at myself, I had no direction and wanted to fight.
This is EXACTLY how I feel - I'm 25, but I've felt it for years, I guess I just suppressed it. But now it's sort of consumed me.

>boxing
Everything you said there sounds great, and it definitely tempts me to give it a shot. I fucking love the idea of just giving it a go and giving someone a good fucking punch - and yes if I get hit, then that's a good lesson. I want to know that I can handle myself in a situation like that.

Can I ask, what do you do for a living? The reason i ask is because i'm a web developer by trade (currently NEET, because i ragequit my last job, because i'm stupid). And, having gone to the gym, i find it difficult reconciling the job (where i'm expected to be a clever, but also passive person, sitting at a computer, doing what you're told) with my desire to become an alpha cunt who punches people in the face.

I'm sure i could reconcile it if i tried. And if i got seriously into boxing, maybe i'd be inspired to do a different job. Anyway i was just wondering what you do.

>>18032041
Yes I'm British. That's very true, i love football, i've never actually been with my mates, only my dad, so yeah i should get my mates to go to some games probably

Antifa are gay as fuck, but then again i am very tempted by the catharsis of just breaking things and not giving a shit. I even bought a balaclava recently because i was thinking about going out and committing crime (probably not a good idea).

>>18032061
Yeah probably but talking to some cunt doesn't help you actually become STRONGER and BETTER does it?

I've been to counselling - all he told me was that i'm angry, he didn't come up with things i can do.

He said channel it, which is true, so now I need to find something to channel it into. Preferably something violent. I don't mind getting punched if i get to punch some cunts

>>18032131
t. whiny bitch who got beat up and hurty and is now mad at the world

When you get into an actual fight, take a good punch to the face and realize real life isn't like your animes you'll cut this bullshit and go do something productive with your life.

>>18032168
>be a bitch

I'm sure you love being cucked by your girlfriend's bull but that ain't the life for me mate

Also you're wrong, I've been punched in the face and I took it like a man, unlike you, clearly :^)

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>>18032222
So basically you're unable to respond to my points?

>>18032142
M8 go to any shit pub and take the piss some cunt.

>>18032325
Have you done that? As I said in the OP, please only advise things that you have yourself done.

If you have, how did it go?

>>18032325
>>18032340
I guess my point is, who the fuck walks into a pub and just starts on a random fucking person?

You would have THE ENTIRE PUB against you.

I've gotten into altercations, sure, and i should have punched back in those altercations, but that's different to walking into a pub and straight away going "ROITE THEN WHO WANTS A FOIGHT"

>>18031814
>>18031822
>>18031871
>>18032160
If you're so set on fighting then go out and pick a fight. See what it's like and go from there.

>>18032480
Have you done that? And if so where did you do it? In the street? In a pub?

You're just offering empty platitude shit that you haven't actually done yourself, aren't you?

Ive felt very similar in my teens. I was just angry, and depressed. Fighting was just a way to vent the frustration I felt with my life at the time. I'm not gonna lie to you, it works, to an extent. It took a few really bad beatings and some shifts of priorities on my life before I really asked myself if it's worth it. I don't think there's anything objectivey wrong with fighting, but don't be a bitch about it. Handle it with honor or you'll just be another punk. Fight fair. I came up in a different time though. It's shockingly different nowadays. People are more likely to call the cops, and you're more likely to end up dead then ever. Everybody's got a gun nowadays

>>18032488
You don't even need to pick a fight, really, you can just start attacking some cunt on the street at night if it comes to it. It's about the excitement, the adrenaline, and sheer thrill, not an honorable exchange of fisticuffs.

Muzzies and chavs do it all the time

>>18032488
>>18032480
Yeah I've gone out looking for a fight. I've gotten I lnto a couple. It always starts with looks or little comments. Shit escalates and leads to a fight. You would fucking know that if you weren't so much of a goddamn pussy. If you weren't you'd be fighting people. You probably apologize when someone steps on you're shoe, don't you? Cut it with this empty platitude shit. You act like it's a rare fucking thing to get into a scuffle.

Everyone in this thread is an angsty Teenager lol

>>18032181
>hahahaha le cuck, haha le bull xD

Pathetic, i doubt you are old enough to drink.

>>18032526
I'm in Britain so people don't have guns here

Maybe I should just fight some people though

>>18032564
Interesting, you ever done it?

>>18032565
Maybe I should just do it then

>>18032576
25

>>18032912

So you're a scrawny ginger kid with anger issues.

Coo' OP. How's watching John Wick for the 49th time working out for ya?

>>18032923
Not ginger. Never seen that movie.

Why can't we just talk about the issues mate? How do you deal with anger? By trying to insult others on an anonymous Malaysian kitesurfing internet messageboard in order to deflect from your own shortcomings?

>>18032937

What is the issue? You are a scrawny little pussy that fantasize about beating people up. It's not really an issue, most people have those thoughts when they experience puberty.

>>18032948
And what makes you think you're such a hardman kid? :^)

>>18033035

Because any 25 year old would not have any interest in throwing punches in an alley. Ya fucking weapon

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>>18033046
So you think that people stop getting into fights after they turn 18? That's actually what you think?

>>18033066
Normal people don't get into physical fights

>>18033066

No. I'm saying that people don't actively pursue them.

>>18033070
>>18033075

Well clearly these guys would disagree with you:

>>18032564
>>18032565

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>>18033075
And also how do you explain MMA fighters? Boxers? People who have fights in bars? Football hooligans?

Simply untrue that people don't go out looking for violence

>>18033119

Are you an MMA fighter?

>>18033124
No I'm not. That's sort of the whole point of this thread.

I'm asking how you can say that people don't look for fights past the age of 18 when people clearly do.

Boxing would be good for you

>>18033169

I'm not talking about professional boxers and MMA fighters. I'm talking about you, dickhead.

>>18033119

as an martial artist Id say you overestimate the capabilities of opponent.

Only people who are new to martial arts or are streetwise fighters (not real challenge 1v1 DESU) are looking for a fight

>>18031743
I think about ways to murder people, all the time.
It may be a similar kind of problem. But martial arts did not help me much.

>>18033188
Probably yeah

>>18033192
>getting flustered on a Malaysian sockpuppet internet forum
Wew lad :^)
I already answered your question you fucking idiot

>>18033202
I'm not sure what you mean by this

>>18031743
Get in fights. No matter how good you are you'll get the snot knocked out of you eventually, probably pretty quickly, and you'll realize that most fights are stupid.

Alternatively stop being such a shitstick and develop some empathy. Get an ability to actually connect with people. Realize it's really just misplaced anger.

>>18033311
This is a reasonable response to be fair. Thanks.

Where should I seek fights? Just whenever I'm out? Maybe I should. Go down town, go drinking, give someone a look, get it fuckin started

>>18033320

Enjoy being assraped in detention, pussy

>>18033341
What a shit post

I guess you're too stupid to contribute anything worthwhile to the discussion

>>18033354

Says the guy that wants to 'get it fuckin started' toplol

>>18033369
Because that guy said start fights, so I was thinking maybe I should

Have you ever got into fights?

>>18031743
We could fight, me and you, if you want, where you at, lets do this!

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>>18033403
UK
Let's go
Put em up

>>18031743
Sign up to a gym.

>>18031743
Tool works also.

>>18033501
I did work out for a while, but I need COMPETITION. Working out by myself made me angry because I didn't have anybody else to beat. I think that's one of the things that made me so obsessed with the idea of fighting people.

>>18033502
The band?

>>18031743
I do Kung Fu, Tai Chi, and a little bit of Jujistsu, Swai Jow (sic) and xing yi (sic). Also boxing. It's literally my favorite thing. I want to own a martial art studio one day. Would highly suggest it.

But don't be a tai kwon do or karate fag. High kicks and choppy movements won't actually help you that much in a real fight.

>>18033514
Randomass street brawls aren't competition. They are George Orwell's vision of the future, repeating indefinitely until someone finally comes up with something different.

Learn how to be a team player, then play sports.

>>18033529
Those things sound cool.

>>18033531
Interesting. Yeah I should. I've played football (soccer if you're american) a few times with friends in recent years and always had a blast when doing it

>>18033609
Classes can be expensive but if you live in a city you will most likely be able to find a studio.

Where I live, it's like $40 per weekly class.

>>18031814
You sound like a "woe is me" faggot, OP. Take responsibility for your own failures in life - even if they were "caused" by others. After all, if you put yourself in a position to get fucked then learn from it or it's your own damn fault. It sounds to me like you are taking your own inadequacies out on other people. Read up on stoicism and get your head right. You could also try martial arts influenced by Buddhism to get in the right mindset. Personally I did Okinawan Karate and BJJ. Find a dojo that does sparring and lots of open mat for BJJ or randori for Judo.

After I gained power in my life, I no longer felt the need to impose it on others. Then again, you are likely the type of person who would immediately abuse what little power you had so maybe just go rob a liquor store instead.

>>18031743
Go to a boxing gym and wear yourself out. Get your ass handed to you and see how much fight you've got in you. Once you've realized that you aint shit then you can start to learn how to control that childish anger.

>>18033632
Which one is that for then, boxing, kung fu, ju jitsu or all of them?

>>18033633
>You sound like a "woe is me" faggot, OP. Take responsibility for your own failures in life - even if they were "caused" by others. After all, if you put yourself in a position to get fucked then learn from it or it's your own damn fault. It sounds to me like you are taking your own inadequacies out on other people.
I do get you 2bh, I think it's a bad habit I've learned that I need to snap out of

Then again I don't think I'm the only one of my generation to whinge - I definitely don't think I'm as bad as some people

But you are exactly right, one has to take personal responsibility at the end of the day, because no one else will.

>You could also try martial arts influenced by Buddhism to get in the right mindset. Personally I did Okinawan Karate and BJJ. Find a dojo that does sparring and lots of open mat for BJJ or randori for Judo.
Those things sound cool. Yeah I should find a place that does them. How did you find a good place, just look online and look for good reviews?

>After I gained power in my life, I no longer felt the need to impose it on others. Then again, you are likely the type of person who would immediately abuse what little power you had so maybe just go rob a liquor store instead.
To be honest I never used to feel this angry - I've had friends most of my life and shit. I think it is just built up anger from over the years. I hate to think I'm one of those typical "nice guys" - I've played in bands and stuff, I'm not a total loser - but yes I guess that's the sort of chump I have been for a long time, so yes you're right, I need to sort myself out to be honest

>>18033669
Alright OP, you are being open-minded, reflective, and willing to consider that you may be part of the problem so I'll help a bit more. In order to find a good place to train, you can certainly check reviews but many reputable places will offer a free class or two so you can just go and observe. You may need to go through a few of these to find the right place. Be respectful, ask if they spar, ask about the instructor's credentials (who he trained under and whether he had multiple instructors of note), whether they train children and adults together (they shouldn't), and how long it takes to get to a black belt with dedicated training (if less than 5 years minimum then it's a red flag). You can also check for places that are reputable in the MMA community for BJJ. For Judo find a place with ties to Olympians. Once you start attending many of these folks can turn you on to boxing, Muay Thai, Kung Fu, or other type of martial arts instructors that they can vouch for. The BJJ place I trained at gave you a month free no strings attached because they wanted to vet you as much as you wanted to vet them. If none of that works, you can look for places that have ties/are certified to teach to military/law enforcement. These places tend to be practical and no-nonsense, but missing perhaps some of the philosophical stuff that many people find unimportant, but I found very helpful for my own mental state.

>>18031743
After years of practicing a martial art (Traditional chinese system), I have found that it has made me much less aggressive and more self-controlled, physically.