Learning to treat women better

I cheat all the time on my wife. I'm well past the point of feeling bad. The women I hook up with are just as much to blame if you want to apportion blame too.

>>18019834
>but I tell myself that "it's not a big deal because it doesn't mean I don't love her".
There's always a risk that she would find out and it would destroy her. By taking that risk, you don't care about her happiness and well-being.

>So how can I treat them better?
Stop talking to women if you can't handle it. Or simply don't do monogamous relationships (although, even with poly, you can still technically cheat by continuing with this behavior). Don't get into relationships, I guess.

Easy. Kys.

You come here asking how to treat women better, but you still sound like you make excuses for yourself. You cannot change what you don't 100% acknowledge as a problem. So basically, every time you catch yourself thinking something like "well, I still love(d) her", imagine how you would feel if you were vulnerable and looking to be loved, got swooped up by a cute girl and then have her fuck you over by cheating on you. THAT'S what you should focus on, not your great intentions, you cannot expect to find motivation to shape up otherwise.

Also, kind of sounds like you're too young (not in absolute sense but in terms of your personal development) to try to enter a monogamous relationship. The essence of that is learning how to deal with being attracted to and loving an entire gender without acting on it or even being tempted too much... comes easier to some than to others.

>>18020046
>some random woman who never swore loyalty to my partner is as much to blame for fucking me and not honoring a relationship she never entered, as I am for betraying a personal promise I made to someone I deeply love

0/10 on critical thinking.

How about this. You're creating fucked up women by destroying their trust in any future relationships. Think about that every time you cheat if you truly do are about protecting women.

>>18020079
Does it really screw up women's sense of trust if men cheat? I think it's different if the husband cheats if she knows the other woman was just a whore. Women 200 years ago all had husbands who cheated, but they were happier than women today.

>>18020083
You're delusional, 200 years ago the far majority of men had to work all day and didn't have time to seek out someone to cheat with.

Also people's expectations have changed and you should feel retarded for using this analogy. I can do it too
>200 years ago people's kids habitually died before reaching the age of four, so people must secretly want their kids to die before the age of four

See how dumb that looks?

>>18020083
>I think it's different if the husband cheats if she knows the other woman was just a whore.

>Honey, I didn't shit all over the promises we made to each other for some other woman I fell in love with beyond reason - I just really needed to put my dick into this whore I don't care about and that took priority over honoring our marriage vows or your heart

>>18020086
>>18020088
Women used to be these loving creatures who even if treated badly would still stick with their family to preserve it, and even if their husband treated them badly they'd devote themselves to their children.

Women were just so pure and incredible back then. So giving and selfless. Now what do we have? Riley Reid and Miley Cyrus as the role models to most girls on here.

>>18019834
Guys like you are what is known as a dickhead. They think with their dick rather than their head you see and tend to try and fuck everything they can. Often they ruin their life or what they had by doing so. I think the only solution is an hero. Haha

>>18020098
>Riley Reid and Miley Cyrus as the role models to most girls on here.

Porn "stars" are disgusting people.

t. Girl.

>>18020098
Dude, don't go throwing around historical arguments if you have no clue of what marriage meant back in the day. It was an arrangement designed for stability. It was not founded in love. That doesn't mean none of those couples loved each other anyway or grew to love each other, but love was a potential bonus.

A man a couple of hundred years ago would have none of the skills (biological, psychological or even just the time) to raise young children. Women, likewise, had no choice but to devote their life to their three-ten children and spend all the extra time running the household (which was a LOT more time intensive before inventions like a washing machine or vacuum cleaner), so they had no possibility to make money for themselves even if it was easy enough within society to do so. So they paired up and reared households together.

No women would not leave, because they simply could not. They would not find another means to help their kids reach adulthood carrying the stigma of a divorced woman. Hell, it could likely be that they did not care if their husband hit them or cheated on them because they did not care about him in the first place, he just made their life possible, they were business partners in that sense.

You are being a hypocrite by spouting that so selfless and giving stuff. Would YOU want to love a partner who went out and got dicked by other men behind your back? No? Does that make you selfish or not giving as a partner? If not, what's the difference? Why is it okay for a man to not want to be intimately hurt by his loved one, and selfish for a woman?

And if you want to talk shit about women on here, take a look at what the men on here find important on average. Getting laid and constant passive entertainment (porn, vidya). The idea of wisdom or success without ever wanting to put in effort for it, and then being proud that they care so much about the romantic idea of advancing society.

>>18020107
If you can read all that stuff and still not let it skew your perception of men as half the human race, I don't see why it's so hard to do the same for women - even disregarding that I have literally never heard anyone say something about those girls you named or anyone similar in terms of being a role model on here.

If you convince yourself that women are now shit and only looking to be Miley Cyrus 2.0, you only fuck over yourself with that, no one else cares. It's your life.

>>18020083
Yes. I ended almost 6 year long relationship about a year ago because the man cheated on me. I'm celibate now. I have no desire to be with anyone now. I can't speak for every woman, but I can no longer trust people. It's not different if the woman was a "whore". This girl knew the man had been in a relationship for that long. Multiple people claimed she was "a whore". It didn't make anything better or different.

Maybe it doesn't affect every woman in the same way, but I know I can't trust anyone now. Without the capacity to trust, I can never enter a relationship or feel comfortable having sex.

>>18020046
This is true. Both sides are equally to blame unless say the other person involved truly didn't know. I mean, placing the blame on others doesn't help you personally solve the issue. Yes, both sides are equally to blame assuming the other person knew.

>>18020107
Why do so many women like you feel this way?

What can men like us do to change? Seriously. Give us some good advice.

>>18020145
They make a good point. There were times in history women could not work or own property. This is one of the reasons that it use to be so important to have a son. Even when women could own property and find a job, it was met with a lot of apprehension from society often times. Chocolat and Big Eyes are two great movies that show what life was like in the past for such women when they could work and own property. If all the man was doing was cheating, the woman was unfortunately better off staying then leaving in terms of quality of life.

However, this is not about a historical discussion. The best advice is don't have any female friends or only pick an extremely jealous partner who will enforce this. If you can't stay away from strange women, the only answer is to not be around women in the first place.

The other option is a poly/open relationship, but you'll have to deal with the idea your partner is allowed to be with other men. Even if this upsets you, it may be a good idea to partake in one just so you get an understanding of how it feels for the other partner. Jealousy might be beneficial for you to feel. On the other hand, you might find an open relationship quite enjoyable! It could go either way.

The only other option is not pursue relationships while you are young. Go sow your oats so to speak. You can come back to tend a field later in life. Right now, it just might not be the best option for a relationship. If you cannot commit, do not be in one.

>>18020083
You know man, it might sound like rhetoric, but this little bit of advice in going to give you would have taken me pretty far if I had heard it earlier. I've spent my entire life around girls; childhood friends, adult friends, genuine best friends, fwb, girlfriends, I've been living with one platonically for about 4 years which is the closest thing to a sister I've had. This still took me a while to figure out.

What I've learned is that people are way way way too complicated to define entirely by whether they happen to be a man or a woman. Sure, what dangles between your legs is a pretty defining characteristic (for most people), but you know what matters even more? Who their parents were, and their relationship. If they grew up well off, or poor. If they were bullied in school, or if they were popular. Hell, biological gender takes a back seat to sexual orientation most of the time. These sort of things define a person, what you have for a crotch just sort of defines the flavor of shit you're stuck eating your whole life.

>>18019834
You don't love women. You're attracted to them. Big difference.

You are clearly highly impulsive. You do not think of the consequences of your actions.

It's not even about caring for the women. It's about how caring for the women makes YOU feel.

First step is accepting that you do this for selfish reasons. Not out of love.

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>>18019834
>Asks about wanting to treat women beter
>Talks about how he likes to fuck randoms

>>18020290
Most men love women and just want them to be happy.