Dealing with shitty travelers

Give them a deadline. Tell them that they need to decide by this weekend what they're doing, otherwise you're going to make your own bookings because you can't spend any more time fucking around. If they bitch to your other friends about it, so what? They're the ones who look like idiots because they can't get their shit together

Make plans without them. Make your plan to be at x location at y time. They can meet you there.

>>17968117
>>17968118

The problem is, this doesn't work on group trips where they consist of "the group." If everyone is renting a place together, making your own plans means they're not coming at all, because they won't have a place to stay, OR, they'll beg at the last moment to be accommodated, so you'll have six people staying in a place for four, for example.

Plus it ruins things when you want to have fun with the group and travel as a group. Being on the same plane together, or in the same car, is so much cooler than everyone coming in at scattered times, especially from the same place.

>>17968173
Look, if you're pissed about these guys doing it, I promise you that the rest of your friends are just as pissed.

Like I said, give them a deadline, and stick to it. If they don't meet it, they make their own arrangements if they want to come. If there are no tickets or rooms available left, then tough shit for them.

>>17968173
Then continue to be their bitch, asshole. Just give them power over you.

>>17968183

Alright, let's assume, for arguments sake, that the trip doesn't happen at all without them coming. Or at least one. Because that's been the case before - the group trip would be fun with six people (one dude's girlfriend is part of the group), but kind of a buzzkill for three.

Or, it's prohibitively expensive without them, or someone else can't come... Like only needing two hotel rooms, but we'd need three if they came?

Like in this particular case, it's a complete guarantee they're coming on the trip. We know it's going to be cheaper for all of us if they'd just book a room with us as opposed to pussyfooting around for another week.

>>17968205
Then you find someone else, go or stay somewhere cheaper or don't go at all. You chose to be friends with these flakey shits.

>Like only needing two hotel rooms, but we'd need three if they came?
Uh, you let THEM fucking deal with it. Did you not read the part where I said make them make their own arrangements if they don't meet the deadline you set?

Either that, or just stop planning shit. Let someone else deal with these headaches

>>17968106
>This shit happens all the time with these two people, but they're our close friends

there is your choice, you decided to spend time with "shitty people" what do you expect ?

this is why people "lose" friends as they get older

op please get a clue, man up, and live your own life

drop those assclowns