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Is 4chan bad for you?

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I feel like 4chan is responsible for:

- Me giving up on life
- Me giving up on friends
- Me quitting my job
- Me turning into a white nationalist (thanks /pol/)
- Me not getting on with my life

Seriously I go on this fucking website every single fucking day.

Do you reckon 4chan basically sabotages your real life relationships, and basically any chance you have of a normal life?

I've been coming here for years, and I think having this crutch has meant I have not made the effort in real life relationships instead.

And this place makes you ANGRY, because people are always cutting you down, telling you you're not good enough, etc. So now I have ambitions of being this super mega-male, which I think 4chan has contributed to ("you gotta lift bro! Don't be a cuck! Gotta save the white race! Gotta be alpha, not beta! etc."). And for me those ambitions have actually turned into an obsession with crime because I feel like it's the only thing that's "alpha" - working for somebody would be "beta"

Does anyone else feel this way about 4chan?
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>>17956718
No. I do not blame a website for behavior/actions I am entirely responsible for myself.
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>>17956724

You don't think 4chan contributes to these things?

I used to have friends, and guess what - none of them went on 4chan. And they'd look at me weird when I mentioned it.

Because everybody I know in real life knows that 4chan is a fucking weird place where weirdos go. So I think it probably isn't a great place to come.
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Thinking for yourself helps not becoming garbage in any community.
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partially...but I live a double life online and off. I'm fairly normie IRL, and I enjoy living as a normie.

I think your issue is you take this website too seriously. Most of the time when people post shit they're trying to fuck with you, and you're taking it to heart.

avoid /pol/ though, that place really is cancer.
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>>17956718

is food bad for you ?

geez some people are total tubs of lard because they eat too much

but other people are fine
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>>17956732
I do think for myself... and thinking for myself is making me think that 4chan is maybe a cancerous place to be

It's fun, of course. Goddamn it's fun. You can just shitpost and moan about people you hate all day. That's all 4chan is, isn't it?

>Fucking normies!
>Fucking Chads!
>Fucking women!
>Fucking Jews!
>Fucking niggers!
>Fucking cucks!

But I'm thinking maybe that's not very healthy?

>>17956735
I managed to avoid /pol/ for many years, from 2007 until 2015

But 2015 it sucked me in, and now it's my most visited board

And now I hate myself for not going out and becoming a criminal because I'm convinced anything else would be "beta"

Maybe I should see a fucking therapist
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>>17956755
maybe you should get off this website, you're taking things too seriously.

>getting sucked into /pol/
this is where you screwed the pooch.
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>>17956759
You might be right

So you think 4chan doesn't affect your real life too much? How often do you come here?

At the moment I come here all day every day because I'm NEET, but when I had a job / was at uni, I was still probably coming here every day, especially if real life was shit at that point in time

>>17956754
Yeah but this place is pretty fucking cancerous

"Food" would be equivalent to the internet

4chan would be equivalent to high fructose corn syrup. Or sugary drinks. I don't drink sugary drinks because they rot your teeth. So maybe I should stop coming to the cancer that is 4chan.
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>>17956718
Here's a nice enough quote I saved once

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I wish you luck OP. This site has nothing to offer anybody. There is no quality content here you cannot get more quickly and efficiently elsewhere. This is an addiction which reduces your productivity, attention span, and free time. You are becoming more bitter, narrow minded, haughty, and old. Leave now and block this site. There is nothing here but slow, lonely suicide.

People do not have arguments here. Posters do not engage one another on key points, they nitpick with greentext and mock each other. Nobody is interested in the truth; people are battling for fleeting moments of superiority. Active commenters are loud jackasses who tumble into one internet fight after another, anxiously keeping ten tabs open to ensure they keep the last word in all of them. An insightful post is one in ten thousand, and no matter how hard you filter this place you are still searching for diamonds in a garbage dump.

This place is not making you happy. You are not having fun. You are not gathering stories to tell, learning, or growing as a person. Instead you chuckle every thirty minutes and are occasionally spurred to masturbation by libidinal posts or pictures. You are addicted to readily available information and pressure free social interaction. This place is slowly poisoning you with misogyny, narcissism, a false dichotomy surrounding normalfags, and insecurity.

I'm not telling you to b urself. I'm not telling you to go outside. I'm not even telling you to make friends. Just leave 4chan. Do anything else.
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>>17956812
Pretty damn good post 2bh

Sums up my feelings pretty damn well
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>>17956812
It is still better than the cancer that is Facebook//Instagram
You think we have better arguments on Facebook? it is filled with minions shit and some weird unrelated memes.
Do you think on Instagram we create stories.

The things you are mentioning, we left those behind when we left real life and came to the internet.

4chan maybe bad for us, but it is much much healthier than the other shitholes like Facebook, Instagram.
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>>17956837
>4chan maybe bad for us, but it is much much healthier than the other shitholes like Facebook, Instagram.
Is it? At least in those places you are interacting with real people.

I have isolated myself from all real people in the past few months, just coming to this place alone. Which isn't good.

Sure it is not healthy to get *addicted* to FB/IG, but I never did. Was never that sort of person. I only ever used FB to talk to my real world friends, and I never used IG at all.
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>>17956847
>At least in those places you are interacting with real people.

Try checking the intellectual levels of these 'real people'.
There is a reason why we all come here.
We all are one sort of autists for sure, but intellectually we all are way better than those poisonous superficial 'real people'.
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>>17956718
>I feel like 4chan is responsible for:
You were going to give up on life, stop socialising, quit your job and waste away in front of your computer because you are depressed, not because 4chan magically made you give up.

>Do you reckon 4chan basically sabotages your real life relationships, and basically any chance you have of a normal life?
Only if you are pathetic enough to let a website cuck your life

>I've been coming here for years, and I think having this crutch has meant I have not made the effort in real life relationships instead.
It's not a crutch, it isn't replacing anything or helping you, it's something you spend time doing.

>And this place makes you ANGRY, because people are always cutting you down, telling you you're not good enough, etc
You're telling me that people are mean on the internet? colour me surprised.

You are a social retard.
You chose to browse 4chan instead of going out, seeing your friends or doing anything with your life, just like people choose to masturbate instead of getting ready for work or seeing friends.

I've been browsing 4chan since the Gaia raids, I have a job, a house, a wife and a kid.
4chan didn't magically make me a white nationalist, nor did it make me give up on everything, it's a website, I don't let it dictate anything in my life, sure I found the memes funny over the years but that's the extent of the influence it has on me.

Fucking get a grip, leave 4chan if you must, go out and make friends, hopefully they won't be gay and magically convince you to suck dick as well.
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>>17956853
>Try checking the intellectual levels of these 'real people'.
As I say I used to interact with my real life friends, who are smart people

Anyone who I didn't like I would unfollow. I always tell people to do this because I'm amazed other people don't use this feature at all. It means you don't have to see ANY of their shit.

>There is a reason why we all come here.
Well I initially came here about 10 years ago (fuck I can't believe it's been that long), because I felt socially isolated - I was miles away from my friends 2bf, so that was probably a factor

But I am now thinking if I got off this thing and made more of an EFFORT with people I know in real life, then I wouldn't be so isolated and depressed

>We all are one sort of autists for sure, but intellectually we all are way better than those poisonous superficial 'real people'.
No mate. Ignore the superficial people, but not everybody in real life is superficial are they?

You're a real person aren't you?
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>>17956718
Stop coming here everyday anon, as simple as that.
Besides all the things you listed you seem to waste a lot of time here too.
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>>17956718
it's just bantz m8
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>>17956878
True maybe I shouldn't. How often do you come on here?

>>17956879
True but it's also addictive and attracts a lot of NEETs doesn't it?

So it's probably not the best selection of people to spend time with is it?

Obviously not EVERYONE on 4chan is a NEET, but many are, so it's a place of a lot of negativity, isn't it?
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>>17956916
E-Everyday too.
Less change together anon, tomorrow, don't come 4chan altogether.
If you close it right now, which is what I'll do after posting this, even better.
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>>17956945
Well I might get more replies to this thread... so I'll keep it open

Plus I'm not very good at quitting something like this cold turkey, I need something else in my life first otherwise I'll never stick to it

I've taken a first step though - I'm going on /g/ instead of /pol/, and I haven't been on /g/ regularly for a long time. I'm hoping /g/ will get me interested in tech again so I can apply for a job and actually seem interested in it.

If you do try and quit though then power to you, but as I say, I think it's necessary to get something else in place, rather than try and quit cold turkey, otherwise you'll just come back here and then hate yourself for not achieving your self-imposed goal.
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>>17956879
This OP, most people browse shit sitles like 9gag, buzfeed, tumblr and facebook, they are all total places of trash and I'd say even worse than 4chan in some ways

The difference is that you don't really tell anyone about 4chan and move on, it's just a website like others
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>>17956916
Stop acting like a social snowflake.
Nobody asked you to be here.
We are happy the way we are here.
If you don't like it here, don't come.
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>>17956956
>The difference is that you don't really tell anyone about 4chan
Then there is a difference isn't there?

All those other sites attract NORMIES. It's socially acceptable to go on those sites.

Whereas it's NOT socially acceptable to go on 4chan. Which makes sense, because there's some bad shit on this site, like white supremacy and CP and trap porn and gay shit and furry shit and anime (Christ I fucking hate anime) and all that shit

>>17956958
I'm not saying I am a social snowflake mate, I am just saying this place is not good for healthy living is it? Come on man face the facts

I've been coming here TEN YEARS. Literally TEN FUCKING YEARS. But come on, there are downsides aren't there?

I always thought the weird / socially unacceptable shit here wouldn't get to me, but I think it probably has.
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>>17957028
Why are you being such a sperg? Are you actually blaming a fucking imageboard for ruining your life/having a negative efffect?

And what the fuck is that normie bullshit? I can bet that everyone does some shit on pc/interwebs that is not socially acceptable, like browsing midget porn or different crazy fetish videos to satisfy his or hers moral needs and lust for specific stuff.

I've been browsing 4chan for maybe 5-6 years now, but I've also been browsing normie sites for 10+ years, most of which are even worse because they are just made up of some La La Land, double rainbow utopia - where only 1 opinion is right, everyone has fun and goes on trips every day, everyone holds hands and it's all good, the literal bullshit makes you content and happy
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>>17956718
You have yourself to blame buddy. It's not a websites fault your not happy with your life.
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>>17957028
>All those other sites attract NORMIES. It's socially acceptable to go on those sites.
"Normies" have been coming here since chanology happened 9 years ago, 4chan is mentioned in popular culture everywhere and has made the news multiple times.

I've known people since school who browse 4chan, popular kids did it, when I went to university, loads of people (including women) used 4chan, I've worked with people throughout my career who use 4chan and known managers who use it.

Normies have been here for longer than you have been around people who aren't blood related to you, stop being a little bitch and get a grip.
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>>17956788
>So you think 4chan doesn't affect your real life too much? How often do you come here?

some weeks I go on 4chan everyday, others I get sick of it and rarely check it. That said, I specifically only go on /co/ and /ck/ (and /adv/ from time to time) because I like animation and comics, /pol/ doesn't appeal to me, because I genuinely don't hate black people/jews/women/brown people/etc etc, and no matter how you look at it the average /pol/fag is toxic cancer.
>inb4 reddit

Anyways, like I said, I live a double life online and off. I have friends offline, I've never been socially awkward, I can be funny when I want to be, and I go out and do shit with friends. I still have issues with depression and anxiety, hence why I come here some times, but overall I'm not your stereotypical 4chan neet.

What I am trying to say is that you can have balance. You can come to this site and still balance a normal life offline, you just have to be able to understand that people here are usually fucking around and you shouldn't take things seriously here. But also avoid the horrible boards (/r9k/, /b/, /pol/, /soc/, etc) that just promote terrible qualities.
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>>17957066
This.
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I have depression and am a sad sack of shit so while 4chan didn't ruin my life, it certainly gave me a good space to not be productive. I guess you could call it an enabler and it's addictive to weak-minded emotionally sensitive people like me. So yes and no. Maybe I was going to turn into a worthless NEET leech anyway, but 4chan sure as hell didn't help anything and probably sped me along in that direction much faster. I don't see 4chan as some sentient being out to get me though, that would be like an alcoholic thinking the drink is alive if you get me.
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>>17957049
>I can bet that everyone does some shit on pc/interwebs that is not socially acceptable, like browsing midget porn or different crazy fetish videos to satisfy his or hers moral needs and lust for specific stuff.
I seriously doubt that

My friends watch porn and go on Reddit, sure, but every time I tell them about 4chan they give me a weird look, because they know it's for NEET losers / autistic friendless weirdos, which it is

>I've been browsing 4chan for maybe 5-6 years now, but I've also been browsing normie sites for 10+ years, most of which are even worse because they are just made up of some La La Land, double rainbow utopia - where only 1 opinion is right, everyone has fun and goes on trips every day, everyone holds hands and it's all good, the literal bullshit makes you content and happy
True, I like the fact that 4chan is just a big middle finger to normies, but still, I can't help but think there are more healthy ways of expressing that

My mate does lots of drugs and drinks himself to oblivion. And sure, that's unhealthy, but at least he's getting out and meeting people. Maybe I should do that.
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>>17957135
dude you take things wayyyyy too seriously. You should get off this site though, if it's actually bothering you this much
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>>17957135
What the fuck is wrong with you, seriously, I repeat again, this is just an imageboard where people from various paths of life and cultures, ethnicities and nationalities come together to talk about total bullshit, share opinions, actually talk about meaningful stuff based on which board without any prejudice or thinking 10 times what your friends on Facebook will think before you post

Many people that browse 4chan have good jobs, families, social life, if you project most of the base as the autistic weirdo, fine , whatever

But.. from what I've seeing you're just blaming a gook tabloid mahjong cartoon site for your own damn problems, fix your own shit and stop being such a pleb
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>>17957149
How am I taking things too seriously?

>>17957189
You say this, but 4chan is full of NEETs and social misfits isn't it? We all know that it is.
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>>17957417
>how am I taking things too seriously?
you're getting immensely upset over 4chan. At this point I would assume someone would just stop using it, but here you are, still using 4chan.
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>>17956718
>>17956755
/pol/ is pretty self-cucked like /r9k/. You shouldn't waste any of your time there.

They're all beta males and females, except /pol/ turns their immense loathing outward, and /r9k/ turns it inward. They were both originally joke boards back in the day, but somewhere along the way newfags took over and took all the jokes seriously.

Just realize 4chan is absolute shit like Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, etc. I'm speaking as someone who has been here since 2005. The sooner you realize it's all shit, the faster you can move on. I do 5 minutes a day here tops. /adv/ blows too since it's mostly 16 year olds posting about their relationships.
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>>17956718
I believe its a terrible place. It certainly opened my eyes to what people can be. Highly addictive as well.
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People will disagree but whatever:

It's not because of this place that you ended up like this, it's because of the way you are that you started gravitating around this place. I was already broken beyond redemption a decade ago, when I joined. Nothing has changed since then, because the same exact opinions I had about shit I still have now, it hasn't gotten worse nor it has improved. Actually, if it got worse it's from real life.

I mean, if you gave up on all those things it must mean you didn't care much, that you just weren't satisfied, at that point you either try to go back on your mindset, or at least pretend you do, drink the kool-aid and do shit you don't wanna do because it's socially acceptable, but it's unlikely, usually there is no way out the redpill (unless you consider drugs a way out). I've spoken with rl people like

>My mate does lots of drugs and drinks himself to oblivion. And sure, that's unhealthy, but at least he's getting out and meeting people. Maybe I should do that.

Whom I thought they were misfits, and compared to me they really were not, they were just slouchy normalfags
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>>17956730
>everybody I know in real life knows that 4chan is a fucking weird place where weirdos go

Stop projectitng
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>>17956718

Why crime ? Why not try to contribute something of value ? You can work for yourself (and your clients) and do good
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>>17957417
>You say this, but 4chan is full of NEETs and social misfits isn't it? We all know that it is.
I am pretty sure the board with the highest proportion of NEETS is /jp/ at 25% and they are a very small board. 25 million unique IP's a month. Does it have a higher proportion of NEETs than most sites? Yes, but you can't use 4chan unless you have a computer, or phone I guess, and an internet connection. Those things cost money.

You let yourself be defined by what your social circle around you idealizes and then blame them for you choosing to live up to their ideals. If you didn't want to be a criminal would you have become one? No. You wouldn't have. You didn't have any qualms with becoming one so you let yourself become one and then rationalized it with "4chan told me to do it!".

You need to rethink the way you look at the world because you aren't thinking properly.
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>>17957603
/jp/ doesn't have 25 million unique IPs a month-4chan does. Thought I should clarify.
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>And this place makes you ANGRY, because people are always cutting you down, telling you you're not good enough, etc.

you cant be fucking serious

>>17956730
>Because everybody I know in real life knows that 4chan is a fucking weird place where weirdos go.

so then dont tell them you go on 4chan you mong

>>17956812
>tyler durden broadvice pasta

Do you any of you have any fucking restraint? Will? Voluntarily control over your actions? There's no hivemind here, there's no control over you, it's just another website on the internet.

What boards do you visit OP?
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>>17957530

4chan is a den of weirdos, bruh.

Also you're using the term "projecting" incorrectly. You spelled it incorrectly as well.
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>>17956718
Instant gratification that makes time pass without you having to think or work for gratification is your problem, not 4chan in particular. You would have rotten your brain on something else if not 4chan. If you're gonna "leave" 4chan, turn off the computer or block all websites like reddit, youtube, etc. You can come back once you pick up hobbies out of mind tearing boredom.
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>>17957603
I am both a /jp/er and a white collar professional earning six figures, though I do have friends who are NEETs

Choosing your hobbies and who you hang out with based on your job is indeed stupid
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>>17957654
Sorry for the typo but you're deluded to think that 4chan is 'weird', it's full of normies nowadays. Just look at this board.
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>>17957676
>Choosing your hobbies and who you hang out with based on your job is indeed stupid
Yeah. Are you a buyfag since you can afford it?
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I don't know, I just got here.
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Social lives may be constructed in many ways. It's all in how you do so.
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>>17957685
Not at all, I spend maybe 5% of my disposable wealth on myself (after living expenses) and save the rest. Even each comiket I probably only spend $100 or so.

I mostly just work hard to take it easy later or donate to stuff I care about like scientific research in the future
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I think it's mostly a waste of time and c sometimes I think it has a negative effect on my self esteem because c I'm a girl and if you hear that girls are worthless whores frequently enough, it sinks in without you realizing it.
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>>17957693
/thread

4xhan is a drug, in so m any ways. You either do the drug, or the drug does you.
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>>17957681

The fact that you think these people are normal prove my point exactly.
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>>17956755
>>Fucking Jews!
>>Fucking niggers!
/pol/ is right about these things, but it's the constant dwelling on it that causes the issues.
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>>17957086
>I specifically only go on /co/ and /ck/
>/co/ /ck/
>cock
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>>17956718
I know that feel bro!
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>it's just bantz bro! why take it so seriously

t. white, American, 6 ft with above average penis size
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>>17957929
You think a board full of people asking about dating and career advice is weird?
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>>17958016
Op is a faggot Confirmed
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>>17956718
If you taking everything on the internet seriously then yes 4 channis bad for you, but you would have gotten this anywhere.

Could be a raging sjw from tumblr or fedora tipping faggot from reddit. At least this kind of autism is funny.

I've been here through my highs and lows and neither really made a difference (minus being unemployed and having nothing better to do.
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>>17956718
>>17956724
I have less social interactions since going to 4chan. But here's the thing... it's not because of 4chan. It's because I'm an introvert. If it wasn't 4chan it would have been video games

Going on /pol/ made me go further left in my opinions. The only reason you became a white nationalist was because from the beginning, you saw everything trough the lens of race instead of judging people as individuals. The only reason why you fell for their cherrypicked unverifiable data collected with faulty methods is because it confirmed a subconscious bias you already had. Don't blame /pol/. It can only make your thoughts more clear, not change them.

4chan didn't do anything to you. It just showed you who you are.
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If you do anything ever merely out of habit or compulsion but feel like you're not getting anything out of it (not even entertainment) then yes, that thing is a waste of your time. I don't thing 4chan makes you into a completely different person but going on here everyday for years will obviously affect you to some degree. Like others have mentioned, it attracts specific kinds of people. You can feel connected through similar experiences and interests which is pretty cool but no replacement if you're missing actual relationships. And obviously it's not just on tumblr that like-minded people just amplify each other's opinions, same thing happens on here, plus people are generally a lot ruder to each other. And that validation of the weirdo experience and dismission of the rest might not be doing you a favor if what you really want is participing more in your life and relationships, yeah. One cool thing about people though is that most of them are somewhat weird once you get to know them and stuff. So I encourage you to spend less time on here and explore that.
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>>17956718
Fuck off you enourmus cock sucking faggot.
You did that, you forgot your friends and family you also quite your job.
And you are such a fuck up because you became a national socialist but lack employment an have no family ( which family unit is important )
You did it to your self and no better then a pot smoker an booze hog blameing the object in question
Densest of dense asshole, fix your life.
Love from canada you stupid prick.
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>>17956718
>4chan is responsible for
you're responsible for everything
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>>17957471
>they're all beta males

maybe the shitposts
the actual discussion is made by guys with families and young conservatives
you just click the wrong threads because you only see the click bait
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This site has nothing to offer anybody. There is no quality content here you cannot get more quickly and efficiently elsewhere. This is an addiction which reduces your productivity, attention span, and free time. You are becoming more bitter, narrow minded, haughty, and old. Leave now and block this site. There is nothing here but slow, lonely suicide.

People do not have arguments here. Posters do not engage one another on key points, they nitpick with greentext and mock each other. Nobody is interested in the truth; people are battling for fleeting moments of superiority. Active commenters are loud jackasses who tumble into one internet fight after another, anxiously keeping ten tabs open to ensure they keep the last word in all of them. An insightful post is one in ten thousand, and no matter how hard you filter this place you are still searching for diamonds in a garbage dump.

This place is not making you happy. You are not having fun. You are not gathering stories to tell, learning, or growing as a person. Instead you chuckle every thirty minutes and are occasionally spurred to masturbation by libidinal posts or pictures. You are addicted to readily available information and pressure free social interaction. This place is slowly poisoning you with misogyny, narcissism, a false dichotomy surrounding normalfags, and insecurity.

I'm not telling you to b urself. I'm not telling you to go outside. I'm not even telling you to make friends. Just leave 4chan. Do anything else.

The people here only demonstrate how defensive and new they are by saying 4chan is fine and that you're the problem. Outside of a few stickies and pastebins, this place is a complete waste of time for everybody browsing it.
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>>17956718

yotsuba exacerbates problems you already had more than anything.
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>>17959407

its not one or the other, its both.

Facebook is the same, especially with the ability to hide posts, it creates an even more refined tunnel-vision echo chamber in the name of not showing you stuff you might find contrary, why? so you'll keep looking at FB and give them advertising data.
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>>17959518
>>Facebook is the same
I'm not recommending Facebook. There are a ton of productive hobbies you can cultivate online, and there's a world beyond the internet.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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