My stupid son

Hopefully he redpills his cuck parent

>>17919348
Suck son's dick

while i'm sure this statement will go against every bit of your intuition: /pol/ will be a good influence on the kid

just make damn sure you and your spouse are providing a stable example of why strong families make strong societies, and give him a good moral foundation to build upon

>>17919504
Sure, making him hate women and people of other races is real healthy.

Why are you going through your son's internet history? That's a violation of privacy, regardless of what he's watching.

He'll probably get over the porn thing. There's a point at about 13/14 where you want to see what you can and can't handle. /pol/ however will probably fuck him up, but honestly, you telling him not to go on will make him do it more.

>>17919507
you mistake an absence of unearned respect for hatred

>>17919213
Stop being an asshole parent and give your son privacy. Besides literally everybody on /b/ is underage. That's the normal gateway board. I'd actually encourage him to try s4s since it's more /b/ than /b/ is, currently

The only real option at this point is to simply let him see shit that will scare him, i.e. Gore. Then a simple condescending "you really shouldn't have gone to a place like that" type of talk will do more than hitting him or yelling at him, or even simply saying that he shouldn't go to places like that.

Trust me from experience, expressing disappointment in your son will hit him a lot harder than yelling at him about what he's not allowed to do.

>>17919515
"all women are whores"
"women are less than human"
"women are children"
"women are disgusting"
"women are moronic"
"women are only good for breeding"
etc. etc.

I think that goes beyond a lack of respect.

>>17919515
No one is owed respect. Not men, and not women. But if you're inherently respecting one and not the other, then you're at the very least sexist.

>>17919542
there are anons who feel exceedingly resentful towards women as a whole and express those feels in one of the few places where they can speak freely without backlash, yes

instead of rushing to condemn them for it, perhaps consider why the resentment built to such a level

>>17919545
well said, i agree completely

>>17919558
Why should I feel sympathy to misogynists? They don't do anything to improve. If anything, it's those attitudes that are barring them from having meaningful relationships with women, so it's a self perpetuating cycle.

A man gets rejected, so he feels resentful towards women, women sense that and either think he's hateful or creepy and reject him again, so he grows more resentful etc, etc.

I do however feel sympathy for men who are genuinely hurt by women, but I can't speak for my entire gender or change them and make them respect men more. i do think society has an issue with men, and treating them well and with respect. All I can do is respect the men in my life and expect the same from them.

And, as I originally said it's not a great set of attitudes for a 13 year old to be exposed to.

>>17919577
At the very least, he will have new and exciting topics to discuss. Would society be better off if paternity tests were mandatory for every child? Is a culture of promiscuity hazardous to the monogamous family and thus civilization as a whole? Would the US be a better place with less crime and less welfare overnight if all blacks were shipped back? I'd be looking forward to the interesting discussions.

>>17919597
But, as a 13 year old (I was an idiot at 13, and girls develop quicker than boys) is he really capable of going in depth or nuanced on those topics? or will he just develop a really unhealthy attitude to women right as he's going into that 'suddenly interested in and capable of dating and having sex' phase.

>>17919213
Nice b8. In case it isn't Get him to browse safe for work board, according to his interests and don't let him post until he's 18. You can let him browse /pol/ but use filters to hide nazi, commie or nsfw threads. He's the future of your country. He needs to make it great again!

>>17919577
the rejection bit is only one part of it, and a small part at that

i never said anything about sympathy but i'm curious now - do you react similarly to the thought of misandry as you do to that of misogyny?

>>17919615
that's exactly why the parents' job and role in all this is so vital

>>17919615
He will be immersed. What happens then depends on him as a person. I'll try an example. You could teach "kids" about the bible starting with god telling Abraham to sacrifice his son. Some would say that god is evil for inciting murder, but others would see the endearing bond that the christian teacher wants them to see. It depends on the person. Honestly, it will be a case-by-case basis since /pol/ has so many common talking points. At the end of the day, it is one of the best places to learn how to think more critically.

As another example, I was immersed with Asian women when I taught English there. Most of my fellow White male coworkers were very turned off by their lack of a chest, butt, and ability to bear sons that looked like them, but I was so enamored by their traditional femininity compared to my previous White Western girlfriends that I now swear by Asian women.

>>17919630
>he rejection bit is only one part of it, and a small part at that

So what is the rest? Like you, I'm just curious.

>do you react similarly to the thought of misandry as you do to that of misogyny?

Yes, I do. I think it's equally deplorable, but I also think it stems from a different place.

4th wave feminist misandry stems from a place of no confidence. The women (or xirs, whatever) feel that they have no success or attractiveness, so they try to comfort themselves by blaming some kind of 'other' (generally white men).

However, this only partly fills the gaping validification gap in their psyches because the gap is really their fault, be it for a lack of healthy habits making them fat, a lack of drive to be successful career wise, a lack of talent making them fail in the creative sectors etc. , so they become angry and resentful as well. This leads to hatred.

>>17919649
I really think reading is the best place to foster critical thinking, and I also think that an echo chamber like /pol/ or, for the opposite viewpoint, tumblr, is not.

The best way to be critical in today's age is to look at a variety of places, like /pol/ but also everyday feminism and the like, traditional news, news with an angle like breitbart and The Guardian, peer reviewed journal articles etc.

Only once you've looked at all the angles of a topic should you form an opinion on it.

I do swear by reading though. I think it's something we're really not doing as a society nearly as much, because there's a perception that the internet is just as good. It's the no. 1 indicator of whether a child will do well in school.

>>17919213
t. helicopter mom

Your son will learn to think for himself eventually. If this is troubling to you, then you are in for some huge shockers when you try to hover over him after high school. Let your baby go.

>>17919663
Reading books like Harry Potter and Shakespeare will certainly give him reading comprehension. However, not all media of learning are equal. There's a huge gap between giving a child a textbook and putting him in a room alone for eight hours a day compared to doing the same with a teacher in the room with him for those eight hours. Just like that teacher offers explanations he can relate to and be interested in, /pol/ serves to make critical thinking fun and something one actually wants to learn and become a part of. People I know who read the bible for 1+ hours a day are some of the dumbest fucks I know.

Also, race and wealth are stronger indicators of academic performance after middle school.

>>17919650
well broadly speaking feminism is simply rebranded communism
>the stated objective of cultural marxism was to bring the West down, and it's working
>women wholeheartedly buy into the victimhood mentality when it's actually men who are put at deliberate disadvantage given the way our society is structured
>it's fashionably acceptable for even the best among men to be severely underappreciated yet unacceptable to be critical of women
again, broadly speaking here

Everyone upset with op, but really, do you want the kid to turn into us? He's 13, he can still be saved. He needs something else to occupy his mind. A new hobby or more activities. Don't outwardly tell him not to go here, but instead make sure he understands there are better things to do.

>>17919213
if you want him to stop going to certain sites you have to filter/block those sites. This will only work on your home network though, he'll still go to them on his phone and shit or at a friend's house.

>>17919709
Regardless of socio economic status, being read to in the first 4 years of life will greatly impact the academic outcome of any child; 90% of our brain connections are made by age 4. Granted, certain higher income/higher educated groups are the ones who are going to do the reading to their kids (I've done library work, this stuff is common knowledge there).

Obviously, not all the media I mentioned is equal. But an echo chamber, regardless of whether you agree with the beliefs being perpetuated, is not going to teach critical thinking. /pol/ is an echo chamber. This is why I say look at lots of different echo chambers so you don't only get one point of view.

Also, the kind of book you read definitely impacts what you get out of it.

>>17919721
Ok, maybe to erradicate the /pol/ threat, you could post on several boards claiming to be underage, or otherwise breaking the rules and ensuring your IP is blocked and he can't get in at all without him ever knowing why.

So I'm back

What bothers me is that he visited Rarescandels! It's a gross website, you can watch real rape videos there.
My son is a normal boy.I know 4 chan very well and 13 is not a normal age.
I don't know if he handle it.

Would you recommend 4chan to your future kids ? I don't think so, maybe when they are 18 but not with 7,9 or 13.

I don't know where he knows 4chan, maybe from his friends...

>>17919730
thank you for illustrating my point so beautifully

>>17919663
Modern society is a totalitarian echo chamber if you don't have access to somewhere like /pol/.

>>17919213
>Spam for gayscandel

>>17919721
How should I tell that to him ?
It's embarrasing because I'm also here since 2010 and yeah..

>>17919739
I started using 4chan when I was 15 and now 10 years later I am a happily married with a great job. I was using websites my parents would have felt similarly about when I was 12.

>>17919717
It's not re branded Marxism. Do you know anything about Marxism? It's very specific. It's not just 'all people are equal' (I've studied the Russian and Chinese revolutions, and read Marx for that).

Feminism is saying women are to be treated equally, and have the same status and rights, at least by the traditional definition.

Marxist feminism however is what says that there are no differences between women and men, and seems to be what you're talking about.

>>women wholeheartedly buy into the victimhood mentality when it's actually men who are put at deliberate disadvantage given the way our society is structured

There are areas like military service and family court where men are disadvantaged.

But there are also areas, like rape cases (Stanford rape case, for example) where women are disadvantaged, and I'd also say in some social areas, such as sex (how many men on here simultaneously congratulate each other for getting lots of women and call any woman who has sex once a whore or slut?).

Both genders have advantages and disadvantages in society. Society is an imperfect, organically grown thing.

>>17919742
Not really. The actual impact of these things seems to be very overblown by the internet's combined schadenfreude and sensationalism.

The majority of people are not SJWs, and contrary to what SJWs believe, the majority of people are not sexist or racist. The majority are just trying to get by, and don't really care enough to even think about these issues.

>>17919758
He is still a 'stupid' 13 years old boy.
He plays Pokemon and is playing on the playground.

OP here

I'm sure that you don't wanna a 13 years old boy here.
Underaged people are hated here like Newfags.

>>17919773
In a traditional culture he would be getting married about now. He's old enough for /b/. Let your children grow up.

>>17919760
>very specific
yes, specifically cultural marxism
war was supposed to get the working class pissed off enough at the ruling elite for revolution to be welcomed, the plan backfired completely, and they subsequently went back to the drawing board to figure out a new strategy; research frankfurt school, and youtube > wikipedia

feminism in theory and feminism in practice have been inconsistent from the start. the theory was founded upon the supposition that different rights/status meant unequivocally that women were oppressed by men, the practice was founded upon the advantages to those in power of being able to tax both halves of the population and get kids into state sponsored schooling earlier, and for the most part it's only gotten worse from there

>military service and family court
and early education practices and normal behavior being deemed toxic and affirmative action policies which extend through to higher education/workplace and domestic abuse protocol and (in the US) genital mutilation

false rape accusations are damaging, potentially to life-ruining extent, and men are more often the victims of rape than women unless we're disregarding prison stats


this stuff rarely if ever gets talked about, and men are quickly shouted down and ridiculed in the hopes of being silenced whenever they dare complain or even just try to make a point of it

At the age of 6 I would take a friend of mines polly pockets and pretend they where having sex while I took my baths. I think a 13 year old will be fine on /b/ as long as hes not autistic. also I've been watching porn since the 6th grade...

>>17919849
>different rights/status meant unequivocally that women were oppressed
Up until relatively recently in human history, women had three paths; wife, nun or whore. Obviously exceptions existed, but this was the norm. Women had no status outside of their relation to a man. They couldn't get an education. They couldn't vote. They couldn't own property. Marital rape was seen as normal and permissible. What exactly is your definition of oppression? That's more than being 'different status', that's being second class. In my eyes feminism should be about giving people equal opportunities, where they didn't have them in the past. What people do with those is their prerogative, but women or blacks or whatever shouldn't be mollycoddled.

>false rape accusations are damaging, potentially to life-ruining extent, and men are more often the victims of rape than women unless we're disregarding prison stats

While I don't deny that false rape accusations are an issue, are there any stats on whether it happens more frequently than men rape women? Rape is psychologically life ruining

Also the prison thing means that it's still men being the perpetrators.

>affirmative action policies which extend through to higher education/workplace and domestic abuse protocol and (in the US) genital mutilation
I would agree about affirmative action in school, but where I live at least, abuse is taken seriously and actually checked out properly. Also, stopping domestic abuse, marital rape and other things is not a bad thing. Ditto with circumcision not being the norm.

I think that mens issues should be talked about, certainly, and that they are often silenced.

But you've got to acknowledge that a loud unpleasant minority can tarnish a movement. The /pol/ or MGTOW or /r/ The Red Pill types do for Men's rights what blue haired tumblr kin do to feminism.

>>17919885
When I was 7 I shoved the gun from rodimus prime up my dogs asshole.

>>17919779
>I'm sure that you don't wanna a 13 years old boy here.
>Underaged people are hated here like Newfags.
Well, the point is that it's not about age, but intelligence. It's really hard to tell someone's age from his post, as long as it's not written in a specific fashion.

>>17919213
Your son just wants to explore, he probably heard about the sites from another place on the internet or from his friends and wanted to check it out.
Wait for a week, find out what boards he's visiting, how often, etc. just to make sure it's not just a phase. If he still keeps coming here then you can just approach him and tell him that he shouldn't be coming here since it could affect him too much and should wait 2-3 more years. Just don't go into crazy parent mode and don't be a dick because he'll just start hiding it, it's not hard to do so.

And lastly: I started coming here when I was 12. Won't say it was a good idea, but well... choices, man.

>>17919892
>They couldn't get an education. They couldn't vote. They couldn't own property.
how many wanted to? rights come with responsibilities which come with risks, and the guarantee of shelter and security with which to feed and raise the children you have with your husband may not seem like getting to make enough out of life to you or me nowadays but even so we would be hard pressed to truly call that oppressive

>While I don't deny that false rape accusations are an issue, are there any stats on whether it happens more frequently than men rape women?
not that i've seen. very strongly doubt it but can't say definitively

>Also the prison thing means that it's still men being the perpetrators.
does that change anything?

domestic abuse point is about men being assumed to be the perpetrator as a matter of standard protocol, stopping it is def a good thing no matter who's in the wrong

>I think that mens issues should be talked about, certainly, and that they are often silenced.
agreed

>But you've got to acknowledge that a loud unpleasant minority can tarnish a movement.
agreed

>The /pol/ or MGTOW or /r/ The Red Pill types do for Men's rights what blue haired tumblr kin do to feminism.
disagree, strongly in fact. the former makes sense, the latter does not and instead tries to compensate with bullshit trickery and emotional manipulation

>>17920031
>how many wanted to?
Who knows, the point is they couldn't. That's what movements like feminism aimed to fix. Making it so women had a choice.
disagree, strongly in fact. the former makes sense, the latter does not and instead tries to compensate with bullshit trickery and emotional manipulation

MGTOW etc. hate women. There's no going around that fact. They care more about bitching about how awful women are than about actually addressing men's rights. That is exactly what SJWs do, but reversing the genders. If you honestly think that the attitudes perpetuated by these groups is not hatred, I don't know how you define hatred (In forums and the like. If men were literally only going their own way, no one would care. They however spend lots of time on the internet bitching, rather than getting on with their lives).

One of the clear reasons men are seen as the more worrying perpetrators is simply down to physical differences. Barring some kind of weapon, it's very difficult for a woman to seriously hurt your average man with brute strength.

There should be provisos for men, but domestic abuse is more dangerous for women, so that's where most of the resources are.

>>17920051
Apologies for the typos. Typing quickly.

>Who knows
well history knows women didn't originate the movement, few supported it initially, the actions of suffragettes could frequently be classed as domestic terrorism, and that Rosie the Riveter chick iirc lasted something like a month before saying screw this crap and going back home, so take from that what you will

i think the claimed justification for grievances have significantly more basis in fact, that's all. i don't excuse whatever hatred may be present and i certainly don't advocate for it but i do value fairness and look to reason to make determinations in that regard

>>17920105
>few supported it initially
People don't like change. WHatever women in the early 19th century think, most modern women agree with it now. Historical precedents are important, but it's not more important than the modern reality.

There have been period where women were oppressed. Hell, in places like Afghanistan, they still are. We aren't now though, in the west, and this is what people get so, so wrong.
>basis in fact
Women only date rich muscular Chads, all women are sluts, marriage isn't worth it (this I personally agree with), money is all you need, women are stupid, manipulative little trolls etc. etc.?

>>17919507

Pol doesn't hate women, pol loves women.

Pol despises degeneracy.

Hopefully your son turns out okay in spite of you.

>>17920118
>We aren't now though, in the west, and this is what people get so, so wrong.
100% agree
i'd be a liar if i said i wasn't grateful for certain aspects of what feminism has resulted in but it's done more harm than good overall and continuing to keep it around is only going to increase that trend

>Women only date rich muscular Chads,
women are the more selective of the two genders and are exceedingly discerning with regard to mating receptivity because biological necessity demands it and culture determines how that demand gets manifested
>all women are sluts,
getting laid has a degree of challenge for a man; for a woman there's a degree of certainty, and with minimal effort at that
>marriage isn't worth it (this I personally agree with),
risk/reward is heavily not in men's favor here
>money is all you need,
simplicity of getting to earn something worthwhile in exchange for effort and energy invested (ties in with above via stark contrast)
>women are stupid, manipulative little trolls
lack of expectations placed upon women to live up to same standards as are asked of men + no pressing need to be able to think critically + readily able to not be accountable for actions + feelings of both victimhood & entitlement simultaneously encouraged = many many MANY women unfortunately fit that description

fact? no
basis in fact? absolutely
they're buttmad but for the most part rightly so

>>17920148
As I pointed out later, /pol/ espouses things like 'women are subhuman'
'all women are whores'
'women are children'
'women don't deserve respect'
'women are only for breeding'
These attitudes are not ones aimed at degeneracy, but at women. And they're certainly not respectful or anything but hateful.

Also, I'm no degenerate. I've only had one relationship my whole life, and we're still together.

>>17920211
>getting laid has a degree of challenge for a man; for a woman there's a degree of certainty, and with minimal effort at that

Yeah, but, lots of women don't want that and don't seek out casual sex.

>risk/reward is heavily not in men's favor here
Yeah, what the hell is up with this alimony thing? Where I live there's only 'spouse maintenance' whereby for a very restricted time after a divorce the one who earns more money pays their ex a set percentage of their salary (very low) to help them get on their feet. It only lasts for about 5 months.

>many women fit that description

I do agree that many women are manipulative and stupid a lot of the time though. I don't have many friends because of it. Men are stupid too a lot of the time. We're not a clever species anymore, or at least, we're being dumbed down.

>>17919213
bane him from 4chan and reddit. 4chan's been hijacked by backwoods drunks and rednecks, with some russian propagandists thrown in for good measure whereas reddit is simply too large and has every matter of nutjob on it.

>>17920246
>Yeah, but, lots of women don't want that and don't seek out casual sex.
true but how many of them still get bristly anyway over "slut shaming" ?

>Yeah, what the hell is up with this alimony thing?
don't get me started. shit heap policies like that along with child support requirements account for a yuuuge portion of our homeless veterans, whole mess makes my damn blood boil
do you guys have no fault divorce where you are too?

>I do agree that many women are manipulative and stupid a lot of the time though. I don't have many friends because of it. Men are stupid too a lot of the time.
a lot of us are feeling this, you're not alone in being alone

>We're not a clever species anymore, or at least, we're being dumbed down.
>we're being dumbed down
this (and yet another reason i sing /pol/'s praises so highly)

>>17919213
Well, this turned into a /pol/ thread. As usual, the /pol/ arguments make the most sense.