How do women HONESTLY feel about male virgins and virginity?

idgaf

i give a much bigger fuck if he has a history of having sex with a lot of different girls. makes me question his values concerning intimacy, sex, commitment and relationships. i don't need all that garbage.

sure, it might come with autism, anxiety, selfesteem issues, yadda yadda
but i can deal with those better than the stuff above.

besides, i think it's insanely hot to be able to experience the excitement of someone feeling a warm, tight pussy on his cock for the first time

don't stress over it. it's not worth it

>>17918824
I don't care about virginity itself, when it comes to a partner. I don't think there is anything shameful about it. I wouldn't make fun of a friend for being virgin or think less of a partner because of it.

When it comes to a partner, it gets a bit more complicated. To give some context - I am thinking of someone virgin in his mid 20s (my age).

I can work around inexperience. I am willing to learn how to please my partner and to teach him how to please me. If he's willing to listen and get good at fucking me, not really an issue.
I'd be concerned about the reasons why he's virgin in his mid 20s. Why is he virgin? What made it so hard for him to have a normal social and romantic life?
I'd be concerned about the consequences of his long celibacy. Will he be insecure? Will he be jealous? Will he shame me for having had sex before? Will he leave me because he wants to experience and fuck more girls? What effect does this have on him as a person and on us as a couple?

>>17918864
I was 23 when I lost my virginity. I was just very shy and never even talked to girls growing up, and was never in social situations where I had to talk to them until I started working.

When I was dating my first girlfriend, I did indeed wonder what it would be like to fuck other girls, and I put a slight strain on me. Not her fault at all.

I am a bit insecure and jealous, but for various reasons. My family suffered growing up due to my mothers infidelity. Both of my girlfriends cheated on me, and one got pregnant with someone else's baby.

The dynamic of dating someone who had had well into the double digits of sexual partners and wanted to "train" me gave me the perception of a lack of respect on her end, and I resented her belittlement. It's been over a year since the last time I had sex or a girlfriend, and I honestly just resent those things and view them as something that's going to make me miserable.

>>17918864
>I'd be concerned about the reasons why he's virgin in his mid 20s. Why is he virgin? What made it so hard for him to have a normal social and romantic life?
I'd be concerned about the consequences of his long celibacy. Will he be insecure? Will he be jealous?
yeah great. I hope not every woman feels like that, or it will be better never to mention it at all.

I fucking forgot to delete the first sentence. Sigh. I'm sorry, I am horribly sleep deprived.

>>17918897
>wanted to "train" me gave me the perception of a lack of respect on her end, and I resented her belittlement.
This definitely is disrespectful. It is absolutely important to be willing to learn how to have god sex together, but it's not a training. I'm sorry you had such a terrible experience.

>>17918902
I don't think that virginity is necessarily a bad thing and I wouldn't dump a guy just because he is a virgin at 25, but it definitely would make me wonder about the things I listed in my original post. Then all those questions might have a satisfying answer, and it'd be cool. Or he could be clingy and jealous, and call me slut the first time we argue, and I'd most likely leave.

There are plenty of other red flags - I would ask myself some questions if my partner was rude with service people, I would ask myself questions if he wasn't able to cook himself a decent meal or do his laundry. It's healthy to wonder about any possible deal-breaker before starting a relationship.

You should be honest and open about your virginity if you intend to date seriously.

I find it quite cute desu

>>17918928
I don't think I'd call you a slut as I'm not the "hurr only a pure virgin girl" type, but well.
Why I'm a virgin? Because I haven't had tried enough to lose it, because of insecurity, fear of rejection, low social skills and a rather introvert personality, you get the picture. I'm working on all of that but it's a constant process, I don't know how to fix it overnight.

>Or he could be clingy and jealous
I don't know if I'd be like that if I got a gf. How would you say one can prevent it, apart from naturally having lots of sex? It sounds a bit like a Catch 22. I'm 23 and I'm getting a bit panicky desu. A-at least I'm quite attractive so I don't look like the virgin stereotype

>>17918928
Those red flags don't relate to the fact he's a virgin though, plenty of experienced guys are like that.

>>17918945
You cannot fix it overnight and it's perfectly fine if you don't. Give yourself time and improve slowly and steadily.

>How would you say one can prevent it, apart from naturally having lots of sex?
I don't think that having lots of sex is necessary, at all.
Be happy with yourself. Don't be terrified by the idea of losing your partner. Give them the best you can and hope for the better.

>>17918955
In my experience, they are. Sure - experienced guys aren't immune to those flaws, at all. But inexperienced and immature guys are much more.

>>17918964
>Give yourself time and improve slowly and steadily.
Yeah that's kinda what I do... I'm just worried that I'm 23 already and still missing on that aspect of life

>>17918928
i lied to the girl i first fucked about being a virgin. i was 22. dont know if she realized, i just told her that i had not fucked anyone for a few years. she pretty much asked me out after i spoke to her for a few days. after we fucked i think she was more self conscious about her own performance than anything else.

i was a virgin for so long because i wasnt too bothered most of the time, and the times when i was i didnt really find any girls i liked enough to date. i had dated about 4 girls before losing my virginity, they all messed me about, maybe them messing me about put me off dating for a little while. the girl i lost my virginity to messed me about, girl who i was recently dating messed me about. next girl will probably mess me about. i think the point im trying to make is that some guys lose there virginity at a late age because dating can be a piss take.

a few of my friends are virgins at 23, they never really try with women though. they are too insecure to approach women. one of my friends gets approached by women because he is good looking but he normally fucks it up because he doesent know what he is doing. so yeah, with some guys its due to lack of experience. another one of my friends lost his virginity at 23 but that is because he is fat and was never able to find a women to date.

so yeah

from my experience there are 3 reasons why guys lose it so late

- they get messed about by the women they date
- too shy and awkward
- too unattractive to find a girl

I lost virginity at 23 and regret it, having sex fucking sucked and she wasn't the one

>>17918975
There's not much else you can do, if not work on yourself and wait.
I'd rather have a relatively well adjusted, 25 year old virgin boyfriend than a completely fucked up, experienced guy.

>>17918824
>24 year old virgin
>have kissed a couple of girls, made out with one
>talked about sex with different girls
>had a couple girls offer it to me but turned them down due to lack of attraction/lack of compatibility
>looking back I probably could have lost it by now if I'd tried harder and had a little more confidence
>sometimes I just give up on women because they have a shit tone of issues and baggage that I don't want to get wrapped up in

Are any of these red flags?

I'm a virgin because I'm a manchild who can't deal with the simplest things any other adult can do, of course I can't say anything about another virgin man, but I'm a walking red flag.

>>17918824
I appreciate the lower odds of him carrying disease around, but I would still have him tested before anything.

Girl asking about virginity or my relationships frightens the shit out of me.
Reasons why I am 23KV is that to this day there has been no girl who has showed any affection or interest towards me, zero.
I have had multiple crushes but those got no where due to me being:
- late blooming autist
- insecurity and having no idea what to do
- knowing that x got a boyfriend already/ is going to have boyfriend
But there's a thing I hate the most about my situation and that is keeping up a facade that is not me.
Took me long enough to realise that being cold, reserved, cynic that would make your houseplant die of depression is not good. So now I do keep up phony facade at work and in public that is not me being myself, which wores the fuck out of me.
I cant see this shit working at all in a relationship - either I lie through my teeth constantly and then have some nervous breakdown and start crying when having a intimate moment or something or I be myself and kill that shit in instant.

>>17918824
I don't care. I would care more if the guy had a huge number of girls, as it generally makes me wonder if he is capable of sticking to a relationship.

I'd be happy to work through it, teach them the ropes and the like. But then again, I only date long term and have only had one bf. I may not be that great either.

I would however be concerned that he would be insecure and jealous all the time.

>>17919177
You're correct, I'm a virgin and I have HPV.

Say i've had sex with a girl and because of my inexperience and nofap, it's hilariously short.

Could i pass it off as "it's been a while" ?
I'm 20, and i just never got to fucking a girl i dated. Was probably obvious to my highschool classmates, but that's over now, (and i couldn't care less if they were all murdered by ISIS) and in college, people have made a better impression of me thus far, yet the subject never came up and i know for a fact most of my friends believe i've had sex.
Technically, I didn't lie, since i didn't say anything whenever it was a topic.
Bonus question for the ladies, can someone identify a virgin without obvious cues?

>>17918864
>insecurity, jealousy
pretty much a given, unless you're both virgins

>slut-shaming
not directly but will probably harbor some resent towards you if he feels like his sex life with you isn't ideal, particularly if you've had casual sex and/or you used to be more attractive in your earlier years

>will leave for other girls
doubtful as he probably thinks he'd never have another chance with a girl again. Guaranteed if any sex acts he wants to try are off the table.

This probably holds true for any r9k type HKVs. It's a toxic mindset that's hard to get out of.

t. former adult virgin

>>17918829
I quite like this post. It gives me confidence and hope. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy. Here's my (You) and have a nice day

Being the more experienced of the two of us is fine, in fact I need any small confidence boost I can get.

>>17918824
http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/it-happened-to-me-i-ended-up-in-bed-with-a-27-year-old-virgin

They hate us.

I actually got rejected recently due to this. I had explained I was never in a relationship before when asked and you could see all the light in her eyes drop.

I think a lot of women don't want a man in their 20s to be totally inexperienced. It's a bother. I'm only 21 and I'm the oldest of my friends and family to never have had any romantic or sexual relationship and it's like people can smell it on you.

I learned I need to lie more often.

I dont think girls care as much about being a virgin in your 20s, im not a virgin but never had a girlfriend before and that seems to drive them off faster, not being a virgin anymore makes me feel like a thousand times more comfortable around guys and guy talk though, knowing I wont have to nod along a conversation whenever sex is the subject.

>>17921097
What a bitch. I feel sad that other women could be that cruel. That poor guy, he must have felt his time had finally come and she was like, nope, you're a loser.

I'd never do that, if I were into hookups. That's so mean.

>>17918824
Well in my experience women would rather have sex with a guy with hiv then a virgin.

She was "in to" me (looking for long term relationship according the not-gentle proddings her friends (some of whom are also my friends and trustworthy) gave me as they desperately shipped us together) for several months but due to conflicting work (travel for work) schedules I never had a chance to ask her out. I finally did, we wound up getting pretty drunk and going back to her place where she started aggressively making out with me. After literally two hours of awkward drunken "foreplay" she realized I was too drunk for actual intercourse and gave up. It was pretty clear that she was experienced based on her demeanor; I think she assumed I was just too drunk to participate (which was true).

I went to her place a few days later and we wound up on her bed, sober this time, and after about 15 minutes of slightly less awkward kissing, touching, and shirt removals she just sat up and told me to leave. She broke up with me via text a couple days later with the standard just be friends and she had no romantic interest etc.

I assume she realized on the second encounter that I was a virgin based on my performance and decided that it just wasn't worth the effort.

tl;dr plenty of girls will find you significantly less attractive the second they find out you're a virgin

t. 27 y.o. virgin

>>17921226
I once had a woman scooch into me and it was so fucking awkward putting my arm around her until she eventually asked if I had ever done this before. I was honest and said no, she laughs and moves my arm off of her.


That was awkward.

iktfb

It's okay to be a virgin. I don't think it really matters. What matters is the personality attached to the person who is a virgin.

Some things I would worry about if I was about to fuck a virgin is if they had unrealistic ideas of how sex would be because the only sexual experience the may have is what they read or saw in porn.

Also if you are a virgin obsessing over being a virgin and obsessing over trying to achieve sex is not attractive. Be cool and when it comes around it comes around.

Things to think about when you are going to have sex for the first time try not to let performance anxiety to get the best of you. Even if you cum prematurely that's normal it happens sometimes. Try to be with someone who won't judge you for your lack of experience. Don't lower your standards just to have sex. Don't stick it in the wrong hole ;P and wear a condom. Carry a morning after pill in case the condom rips. Or at least have the money to buy one or help out the girl if she's going to buy it.

>>17919581
>late blooming autist
>insecurity and having no idea what to do
>knowing that x got a boyfriend already/ is going to have boyfriend

Yeah it really boils up to that. I actually had a girlfriend once but it seemed like a lighting on a tree yadda yadda

stop this fucking shit, they hate them.

Question answered.

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Im 19 y/o virginmyself and i think it comes back to me focusing on study in school, didnt really socialise outside of people id study with and kept a pretty low profile, now started working and meeting few girls there no problem talking to them not awkward or shy but have no clue how to proceed or meet possible gf, do you let it happen naturally or should i be going out of my way to try do something?

In my experience they despise them. It's why I gave up on women a long time ago.

Lose it with a hooker. Trust me, unless you're incredibly lucky to find a woman that doesn't mind, it's going to be awful and soul-crushing.

>>17921808
At your age just let it happen.

>>17918824

It's not the virginity itself that matters. It's the social awkwardness that's almost inevitably attached to it past a certain age that's a turn-off

>>17921829
I feel like it wouldt matter if its with someone you love or are comfortable with. rndom pickup is dif tho

>>17921199
im not a virgin but reading that article really pissed me off. if a guy wrote something like this it would be all over the news. fuck this. i think most women are more understanding than the one that wrote the article? fuck me. this is exactly why i lied the first time i had sex, and never told the girl i was a virgin.

I've had a couple of relationships, but never felt comfortable going all the way. As a result some of my friends think I have more experience than I do, and I'm not really sure how to approach this considering I'm interested in one of my friends.

Can't really think of a decent way to approach that if things work out.

I'm 21 and I just lost my virginity last year and it was one of those things that seemed like a very big deal to me until I actually lost it. After that I felt like it really didn't matter what age I lost it.

>>17918824
I was in high school when I vowed to take the virginities of the impressionable young nerds around me. It was fun for me especially because I got to give them experience and teach them some things for their future encounters.
I'm in a relationship now but if it ever ends I'll probably go back to helping virgins out my age.

I was with a prostitute once but I couldn't keep fully erect and I never came. Am I still a virgin?

>>17918824
I don't care at all honestly.

I lost mine at 24, but after that i had sex 2 times.
None of the times the sex was "good", it was more or less "im gonna try not to screw up", "can't maintain an erection", "can't get turned on by this sensation","gonna lick her so she won't feel like it was all a waste"

etc.

>>17922869
I think like maybe, if i had a gf, it would all become less awkward in time, and i would learn how to relax and have a good time.

My past experiences have been, disappointing to be honest. And it's still like im virgin.

>>17922869
>>17922886
same here mate. ive only had sex about 7 times and i have never been able to properly relax and enjoy it. ive never had a gf so ive never been able to get good at it.

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There's a lot of f-friendly women on this board! H-heh

>>17919581
Is the idea of your partner being more experienced than you terrifying, or is it terrifying the idea that they could judge you negative for not being on that level?
Because expecting your partner to judge you negatively for not meeting their expectations goes against the idea of communication in a relationship. You cannot expect their expectations and automatically adhere to it, and vice versa. Only discussing with them would help ease that worry.

>>17918928
>This definitely is disrespectful. It is absolutely important to be willing to learn how to have god sex together, but it's not a training. I'm sorry you had such a terrible experience.
>>>/reddit/

>>17918995
>the one

>>17921097
what a bitch. people like that are exactly the reason why people are so insecure about their virginity.

>>17923435
fuck, that pic cracked me up

>>17921097
Funny article thanks for sharing.

>>17921199
>I feel sad that other women could be that cruel.
>cruel

>>17921815
>hooker
kys

>>17923751
it's pretty cruel. she knew she would be helping him but decided not to just because she wouldn't enjoy it as much as she wanted. completely selfish and with no regards to how it could affect him.

>>17922843
kys

>>17923773
people aren't selfish for not having sex when they don't feel like it what the fuck is wrong with you

>>17923829
that's not what happened. she wanted to have sex with him then immediately decided not to when she discovered he was inexperienced.

>>17923842
>you're not allowed to change your mimd about fucking someone

>>17923850
You're not understanding what I'm talking about but I'm too tired to argue with you and explain.

>>17923850
After you are naked? It's really inconsiderable and implies that there's something physically (since he convinced her to have sex, he as person is fine) wrong with him.

>>17923854
Yes I am. It's possible you're saying something else than you mean.

>>17923865
>After you are naked?
Yes.
>It's really inconsiderable
Unlike expecting someone to have sex despite them not wanting to.

>>17923773
>sex
>"helping him"
charity fucks! get yours now! only one pity-filled look and you're in!

>>17918938
:3

>>17919161
>I'm a virgin because I'm a manchild who can't deal with the simplest things any other adult can do

this desu

>>17918824
Just do what like 90% of people do and just lie up or down to 2-3 partners if asked.

>>17923484
Second one.
I take judging quite badly due to all the bullying I faced in cool which then in my mind twisted into a thought that anyone judging is just bullying, same thing with compliments which I just turn into an idea that x is just fucking with me.

Those both combined with my no experiences in relationship just turn relationships in my mind into a hostile frontier that I do not think I can get through.
I realise all that but I just can not change it.

My now-husband was almost 20 when we had sex for the first time. I was 17 and it was my first as well. While we're stable and happy now, there were a couple of times during our engagement when we almost split up due to his curiosity of what else was out there. Plus at the time he was still hanging out with pseudo-chads who considered sex with as many chicks as possible to be a contest and he felt left out.

This is why, if I were single and dating, I would be wary of an older virgin. Not because of any kind of social stigma, but because I would want a relationship with substance and would instead just be used as a stepping stone.

It really depends on why he's a virgin. If it's because there's something off about him and people can sense it, I'd be worried. (And there is a difference between just being socially awkward and genuinely being... off.) If he's just waiting for the right girl/was focused on his education/career instead of relationships, I wouldn't care.

My husband was a virgin at 25 when I met him and it was because of the second thing I listed. He was completely focused on getting his degree and working, plus he took sex very seriously and wasn't into casual hookups. He wanted it to be with the right girl and he wanted to be in a steady relationship. I did not care at all when we started dating or when we had sex for the first time (I've only had sex with one other person). He clearly just put other stuff first, and that's cool. You can always learn to have great sex, and honestly I liked that he waited. I wish I had waited for him, too.

>>17918824
It's literally not a problem, in my opinion. I think men were shamed in the past because the world back then had high infant mortality rates, and whoever bedded the most women was hailed as some sort of repopulation champion. There's no reason to have a concern over virginity nowadays since the world has comparatively greater medical care than the past and is kind of overcapacity anyway.

>>17925692
>I think men were shamed in the past because the world back then had high infant mortality rates, and whoever bedded the most women was hailed as some sort of repopulation champion

holy shit this is the funniest thing iv read in ages

Do women expect you to tell them it's your first time?

>>17925794
"Expect" no, but they could be more indulgent and comprehensive if you tell them before yes !

>>17925794
I don't expect it, but I would prefer if the guy told me. It's easier for me if I know what to expect, if I have sex with someone new I assume they are at my same level of experience and it might be weird if they aren't.

>>17918824
I was 27 when I lost mine to a friend. Her perspective on it was "it's weird but it's not like you're fucking creepy or anything, you just haven't tried and aren't confident with yourself".

tl;dr from her conversations on the topic it's only really creepy when you make it a point to whine about not having had sex yet

>>17918864
>I'd be concerned about the reasons why he's virgin in his mid 20s. Why is he virgin?
Was too scared of asking someone out and nobody ever asked me out.
>What made it so hard for him to have a normal social and romantic life?
Low confidence and self esteem. Rarely saw my mother throughout my life so I never grew up with any females.
>I'd be concerned about the consequences of his long celibacy. Will he be insecure?
Yes.
>Will he be jealous?
That you had more sex partners? I would be worried that I wouldn't be able to live up to them and give you unsatisfying sex because I'm a virgin.
>Will he shame me for having had sex before?
No.
>Will he leave me because he wants to experience and fuck more girls?
If we had a lot of sex then no.
>What effect does this have on him as a person and on us as a couple?
No idea.

Are these acceptable answers or am I doomed to be forever alone?

>>17925864
Of course you're not doomed to be forever alone.
Take care of yourself and solve the issues you mentioned in the first two answers. Look for a therapist, maybe.
Everything else is nothing too hard to work on as a couple. You learn how to have good sex, it is not a gift from God or something - if you're willing to put effort into learning how to please a girl it's all cool.

>>17925864
i think acceptable.

i lost my virginity pretty late for a guy. throughout high school (uk here so until 16) i was the quiet type, i went to quite a rough school and i was afraid of being picked on if i got rejected by a girl.

when i went to college at 16 some girls found me attractive but i never did anything because i was clueless. i started to gain a bit of confidence in college because the people where nicer than in high school. at 18 a girl asked me out, i was clueless, i didnt know what i was doing, we dated for about a month until she ended it because she liked someone else who was way more alpha. all my friends where same as me so i had no one to ask for advice.

went to uni at 19. i was more confident at this point because i got into lifting. i met a girl through a friend, i was infatuated with her, we went out for a little while until she cheated on me. i was already kind of suffering from depression but this was the breaking point and i became incredibly depressed. i left uni and became a neet for about a year.

decided to go back to uni at 21. dont know how but i was able to "fit in". normies liked me. i gained confidence. during the summer, i was 22, and managed to match with a 8/10 on tinder. She was really into me, we met up and fucked on the first date. i never told her i was a virgin. she has no idea that she took my virginity.

I'm 26 and a virgin male.

I have body dismorphic disorder so I hate my looks. But it isn't something specific I hate my face my body to a lesser degree and my skin color also and my penis size but that might be due to my skin color.

I get told I'm good looking and random girls always try to chat me up and stare at me. I made out with girls before but only because they just looked at me at a parties and would kiss me.

Plan on trying t lose my virginity before 27 and don't plan on telling them I'm a virgin.

How badly will this end ?

>>17926137
>How badly will this end ?

not that badly. just tell them you havent fucked for a good few years. sex comes naturally. from the sounds of it you could lose your virginity easily if you just dated a girl a few times.

>>17926142
So they would be cool if I said I didn't fuck for a few years?

>>17926150
probably. i have said it before.

>>17926159
I might say that I probably won't say anything though.

I just have to get over my bdd and I could probably have sex.

I was thinking about paying a hooker but it's illegal here and if it wasn't I would have done it by now.

>>17918978
I'm a mix of one and two. My problem *now* is people keep saying "oh it's not a big deal, sex doesn't matter" and I internalized that to the point that I just treat women like friends. I bet at least a couple of them would've been open to dating me/sleeping with me but I just don't even try. Fuck.

>>17926318
I'm afraid that if I try and they accept I won't know what to do next.

>>17926376
I mean, not the sex itself but the logistics of it and the aftermath.

>>17922869
3 times is a bad sample

Glad my gf was really into me and patient because it took about 10 times before I got it right. She basically trained me because I could make her cum whenever I wanted after I got gud. Went from barely staying hard to having sex multiple times a night.

Alcohol is really good if you tend to cum too fast , I suggest a shot or two of hard stuff.

>>17918824
>26yo kissless handholdless virgin and will always be this way because I don't know how to talk to people
When you think about it my virginity doesn't matter because the topic will never come up. Damned if the lonliness doesn't hurt though.

I'm 24, managed an almost year long relationship without having sex. Mostly because I decided to tell her I was a virgin as soon as we got close. It's not that she wasn't cool with it - she was understanding, it's just that from then on I was so overcome with anxiety that I could never get hard. I think she was always used to being submissive and it scared her too. What should have been my problem became a problem for both of us. By the second failed attempt, both of us were too terrified to ever initiate.

Honestly I think next time I'm just going to not mention it.

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You ladies are alright :)

>>17926911
Cute

>>17918897
Dude, are you me? I had close to the exact same experience

I'm 23. My only worry dating a virgin would be that he'd get "curious" about what it's like to have sex with other girls. That happened to me with my ex and he cheated on me :/ Other than that I don't mind it at all.

I was about to start my own thread, but then i noticed this one.

Im 23KV Or at least what i think qualifies as that. Not kissed a girl since i was 15 or so, nor have i been in a relationship since.
I have recently, since September last year, met a woman online, on a MMO believe it or not.
She is 40 so there’s a huge age gap, but we hit it off from day one. We regularly talk about sex, she keeps telling me how much she wants me. We also fit perfectly together, laughing, having a great time, spend all free time together, all the good stuff.
We Skype each other as well so we can feel even closer, we live about 8 hours apart cross 2 country borders. Have planned to meet soon, late Jan or early Feb.

My question is however, I have never told her that i in fact am a virgin, and i don’t know if i should before meeting her, or after we had sex the first time?

Last we got onto that subject i told her I had not had sex for the last 2 years. She asked if i would consider myself experienced. Where my answer was no not really, as i didn’t want to build up expectations. To my great delight, she said that turned her crazy on. and she couldn’t wait till we met.

So should I tell her or not? If so when should I do it?

Men become virgins because God is not fair and he laughs at your tears.

Some men are born athletic, or handsome, or rich, or charismatic, or intelligent or tall or with much larger penises than other men.

Every woman's spiritual connection to God, The Earth and the Human Race as an ongoing progeny from amoeba to our simian ancestors to modern homo sapiens is manifest in her biological mission in life to reproduce with the most athletic, handsome, charismatic, rich, intelligent, tall, large penised man she can concievably win the sexual affections of.

To say that a woman serves any higher purpose in life is, quite frankly, misogynistic: Mankind has become incredibly tall, bipedal, intelligent, beautiful, wealthy and social as a collective species specifically BECAUSE women have ALWAYS served no higher purpose than the previously stated thesis. And yes, compared to other mammals, humans have disproportionately larger penises.

This is because 80% of women (or more) will always only crave relationships with the top 20% of men. They're willing to commit sexual mutiny with other women simply to share such men. When it comes to the top 3% attractive men, women will literally fight one another and go mad with passion over such tall, brilliant, handsome, intelligent, fit and wealthy men.

It's by the grace of God that womankind was built with such precise discrimination. Mankind has progressed so far because of this.

Other men are born short, ugly, stupid, unathletic, weak, poor, timid and altogether more womanlike than man.

Many, many men become virgins late into life or have very sparse sexual relations due to this exact anthropological paradigm.

There is no other reason men are still virgins in their mid twenties.

> Went to all boys school
> My degree is mostly men
> Just turned 22
> still kissless virgin
> Tried Tinder for a week
> 1 match (probably an accident)

To add some more details I have poor social skills, tall and skinny and I’m probably ugly. Only got those “looks” or eye contacts twice in my life. I’m not afraid of meeting new people or talk about sex. I travelled alone before and I intend to do more.

Pretty much all women I met in my life are through other actives such as college clubs. All women from there either already have boyfriends or get into relationships with other members but me.

Well, fair enough life I guess, who wants to date an ugly tall skinny dude who can’t make a girl laugh?

I just feel like I’m missing out

>>17918824
Only ever had sex once, hardly enjoyed it, felt like a forced boner.
Spent most of my youth masturbating so it killed my sex drive.
Fucking too much furry porn, weird fetishes and bbw porn
I AM READY TO BE WIZARD

SO what I've gleaned is keep it to myself, don't freak them out, make sure it's casual from then on until i'm comfortable settling down.
what d'y'all think?

So looking at this thread, the women are saying it's not the virginity itself that's a problem, just that they'd be concerned the guy would cheat on them or would be too socially awkward.

Meanwhile some guys are saying they got rejected for being virgins.

Is it safe to conclude that there are women out there who won't automatically reject virgins, and that the women who rejected the guys are bitches? Which mindset is more prevalent among women?

>>17928455
Since most women are bitches, its stands to logic that most women hate virgin men
Scoring lots of girls is all about being fake anyway, which most people are as well. It's any man's decision as to whether their morals/dignity will be profitable to them in some way

>>17918824
I'm done with bwong a virgin, going on 23 years old and I've come to the conclusion that I am just an unattractive and shitty person, so I wanna see an escort so I can be done with it and move on.

I just don't know how to find one, I checked out a website called backpage but it looks shady as shit, another called Eros looks legit but I'm still nervous

Anyone ever hired an escort? Whats a good site and whats the etiquette ahen hiring one?

>>17928483
You could always travel to where its legal like Germany, Netherlands and New Zealand

>>17928488
As much as I'd love to I am but a lowly, poor American stuck in the glorious Pacific Northwest, I have to make do with what a got.

I've actually saved up money so I can hire a decent escort

Girlfriend took my virginity at 22. She likes that I was a virgin, makes her feel like I gave her something special and only appreciate her sexually rather than having her be another notch in a string of women, devaluing her a lot.

She is not a typical girl.

>>17928650
She sounds wonderful anon

What do women think of guys remained virgins for their religion? Guys who are otherwise normal, but never wanted/do not want to have sex unless they are married?

>>17929364
Keep going, you'll regret it if you dont stay the course

I confess, it's weird to me. When I was a kid if you hadn't lost your virginity by the time you were 16 your were considered a freak and a loser. Girls and boys, but especially boys. I'm not kidding. That was the 80's. Watch "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" and you'll get a history lesson on this shit. I'm really shocked at how many virgins there are on 4chan LMAO did I really write that? But in all seriousness I was a virgin until I was 23 I'm female and when I finally had sex (he was 37) I hoped he didn't know. Not to brag or anything but now looking back I wish I'd sold it to his sorry ass. I was a real pretty girl, just had sex issues because fucking child molestation shit. Anyway, I don't understand Millennials and sex. You all are weird to me with all this trans shit and fleshlights and this horrible porn you have to look at. That shit ain't normal to me, but I guess it is.

>>17929569
>When I was a kid if you hadn't lost your virginity by the time you were 16 your were considered a freak and a loser.

its exactly the same now.

the virgins on 4chan are the minority of the masses. they where the guys that where considered freaks and losers. normal people are the minority on 4chan, how new are you here?

i didnt lose my virginity until 22 because i was quiet in highschool, and developed at a slower rate than a normal person when it comes to relationships. a few of my friends are 23 virgins because they are socially inept. it happens.

>>17920140
Such a faggot wtf are you doing lad

That's like saying how do all males feel about virginity

The billions of people making up each gender have different opinions from person to person

>>17918829
Same here. The only problem with virginity is that it's usually caused by being a sperglord, but if he isn't, or is no longer, a sperglord, then there's no problem.

>>17930299
what do you women even consider a sperglord? but yeah, some of my friends are virgins and i bet they would be considered sperglords.

>>17930312
I mean it's often that people remain virgins due to obnoxious personalities and/or poor social skills. I wouldn't want to go out with such a person because of their obnoxiousness and poor social skills, not because of the virginity side effect.

channers often seem to think women don't want virgins because the two are so often correlated, but it's actually the personality that's a turn off. But most women won't care about the virginity.

If you develop a decent personality, you'll be fine.

>>17930336
yeah, i agree. i remember virgin until 21, and i got plenty of dates before losing it, and the women didnt really care that i was a virgin.

but yeah, with my friends its a combination of poor social skills and shyness. they are nice people but they never approach or show interest in women. one of my friends gets approach by women sometimes but he doesent do anything out of awkwardness so they kinda just stop talking to him because they think he isnt interested. my friends are 23

i lost it pretty late for kinda the same reasons but i managed to not splurge when women showed interest in me so i got some confidence from dating

from my experience its poor social skills and shyness from lack of experience. i feel like my friends will never lose it or wont for a while because they have never even dated a girl or kissed a girl. its kinda cruel.

Anyone here has been a practice girlfriend? Tips for getting one? I've hear that chubby nerds are easy.

I wouldn't not have chosen my partner if he wasn't virgin.

Male virgins by choice are the best. On the rational side, they are less likely to have STDs, less likely to cheat, more likely to be sexually satisfied in the relationship, and less likely to divorce. On the primal side, they satisfy that desire of "he must be attractive because other girls wanted him, but he's so good that they weren't good enough for him, and that means I'm incredibly special since he chose me."

Nothing can really compare to that feeling of knowing you are eachorhers' one and only, and learning and experiencing everything together.

>>17930952
>practice girlfriend

The fuck is that? That seems like you're exploiting a person's emotions for no One's benefit but your own.