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GUIDELINES:
Before you post a question, check the FAQ to see if it's already been answered.
Keep questions short for more answers.
If you're not going to like honest answers, don't ask your question.
And please no derailing arguments.

FAQ:
>Do girls/guys like <insert specific look>?
>What do girls/guys think about <an insecurity including, but not limited to: looks, physical traits, personality traits, virginity or otherwise lack of dating experience>
There is no one answer. Preferences differ, but complexes are always a turn-off.

>I'm shy and afraid of people/rejection. What do I do?
Get over it by practising and exposing yourself to it, little by little, step by step. There is no single magical moment that will instantly change you forever.

>I like someone. What do I do?
>How can I tell if someone likes me?
Ask them out.

>Where do I meet girls/guys?
Anywhere outside. Or online.

>Someone did something insignificant. What does it mean?
Nothing significant. You're overthinking it.

>XYZ happened. Interpret this for me please
We're not in their head, we don't know.

>This person did something that hurt my feelings. Why do guys/girls do this?
Because shit people are shit people. It's not a gendered thing.

>Someone has made it super clear they're no longer interested in me. Do I still have a chance?
No.

>Where do I go on a first (or subsequent) date?
Pick one or more of the following: coffee, lunch, dinner, drinks, ice cream, movies, zoo, aquarium, museum, art gallery, <activity in your city>.

>Brandon, that guy who keeps asking about cuddling in platonic friendships and fart guy
Fuck off
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I told him that i'm still in love with him. Is that enough for him to understand i want him back?
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Why do chicks always expect me to text first?
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why it's always me who have a crush on someone ? Why i desire to love and be loved so much ? Why can't i just love myself and that's it, let the love come naturally ?
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>>17869810
Doesn't matter. Avoid the inevitable drama and move on.
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>>17869819
Girls in general wait for guys to do the approaching
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>>17869819
If you text first it means you're actually interested in me and I'm not chasing some guy who only wants a convenient pump and dump. That's how I feel about it at least
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I'm afraid of having sex, first because my dick is on the shorter side, and second because the only time i fucked it took me two hours to cum. What should I do
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>>17869918
If the girl l actually fucking ikes you that will be irrelevant.
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>>17869918
How short is short? Anything >4 inches and you can make do just fine, even if its not ideal, and better too long than too quick right?

Disclaimer: I'm not a girl so don't take my word on this
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Whats the best dating site to hit up to get laid while at home for winter break? Don't have high standards, just want a girl thats down for some freaky shit.
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Both genders

I was thinking of getting my coworker a small gift for Christmas. But I'm dancing around the thought.
A mutual female friend said no because it might give her a mixed signal. my coworker isn't looking to date and my friend doesn't want me to risk getting put in the Zone.
A mutual male friend however, says it's ok to get something small. She'll appreciate that you thought of her, and as long as it's small and inexpensive I'm good.

Guys, how would you handle it?
Girls, what would you think if a coworker gave you a gift?

I should point out that my coworker and I have gotten closer this year in the 4 years I've known her. We've gone out alone a few times (like 5 throughout the year), and I got her a gift last year that she liked.
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>>17869977
Tinder is usually the go-to place.
I've had luck with Meet Me as well, but it's Ad-y as fuck.
PoF and OKC are good too.
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>>17869982
I'm on tinder, but I'm like a 5 so not doing the best there. Out of the other three which one would you try first
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>>17869980
Are you hoping for something to happen?
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>>17869986
Like I said, Meet Me gave me more results.
I fucked a girl 3 years ago and she's still pretty much my on-call fwb.
Fucked a girl earlier this year, and had constant phone sex with another because she lived 2 hours away.
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>>17869992
Long run, yes.
Then and there, no.

I was going to get her a small gift with no concerns, since as I said, I got her something last year and she liked it. But the female friend made me second-guess myself when I realized she and I are different this year than last, and she brought up the Zone.
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>>17870003
Well if you did last year, couldn't be too bad. I get that it's different now but worst that happens is she thinks "shit, hope he's not hoping for something to happen" and probably won't mention it (best case scenario u bone :^))
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>>17869986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_azCIe_0Kk
take the advice from this video.
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Girls,

Would you let Santa come down your chimney, if you know what I mean?

I'm a virgin but I thought if I dress up as Santa I might get some of that lonely Christmas poon
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what are some good places to meet women in their 20's if i don't want anything to do with bars/clubs

not interested in using apps/online and trying at concerts or sporting events is a dud since most seem to be in relationships
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Anybody I guess, I asked a coworker out the other day and she said yes without hesitation, but then she remembered her parents were coming to town that day so she couldn't make it. I did ask about another day but she is working. I got her number and she said we could go out after the holidays cause we're both out of town. All in all I felt pretty confident about it.

The next two days I start getting the coldest interactions from her possible. She's talking to me less, avoids looking at me in group conversations. I try not to let it drag me down to much when I'm around her but this felt like a sudden 180 and it just sucks. I imagine I should just give her space but I don't even know. Her birthday is on Friday so I'm gonna say happy birthday and see if I can get a conversation going.

I'm probably just an autist but any input would be appreciated. I am very used to overthinking things, feel like I did it less this time but who knows maybe I don't notice it now.
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What do you feel of guys who just grab girls while they dance. Is it an immediate turn off, or if thought the guys was cute or whatever would you be okay when they go for it?
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>>17870199
In regards to the what Im noticing she is not avoiding me entirely, but just seems less comfortable around me. Less eye contact and direct conversing mainly. She doesn't leave the room when I get in or avoid it cause I'm there. Im done now
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I have an incredibly hot girl pursuing me at the moment. She's visibly upset that I'm not into her and I can tell she's used to getting what she wants. The thing is I've always had self confidence issues and perception issues. We ended up talking about that and she thought I was crazy because she thinks I'm really attractive and can't believe I see myself as ugly.

In my head though I feel like she is lying to me. With every girl that has ever said things like this to me I have had a strong feeling of paranoia. Is this something girls lie about to guys?
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A girl told me at a party that she 'creeps on me on facebook sometimes'

so it's safe to say she is interested, right? I'm terrible at this.
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>>17870270
I've dealt with that.

Mutual friends of girls who liked me would tell me they thought I was cute or had a crush on me and I'd just blow it off. Took a long time for me to come around to the idea that I'm just more attractive than I think.
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Honestly, anyone can answer this, but if it matters, I'm a heterosexual guy.

How do I carry a conversation?

I'm not asking for any miracle topics that are guaranteed to charm any girl (because there is no such thing). I just don't know how to converse.

I only ever talk about anime, video games, and porn with my own friends, and that is really not the standard that I want to uphold when I'm conversing with a girl that I'm interested in. People other than my own friends deserve better than this, but I have no idea how to do better.
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>>17870580
You find other things that interest you or you find a girl who's into porn, video games and anime.
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>>17870592
>You find other things that interest you
I do like motorcycles, guns, martial arts, and archery. Too bad most girls don't.

>you find a girl who's into porn, video games and anime.
I found her. In my dreams.
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>>17870597
Well talk about some of those things then. A girl doesn't have to actually share the interest, you just have to be interesting. Then she'll talk about shit you don't care about but god willing it will be at least somewhat interesting.

You don't need to match up 100% with someone to have a conversation. In fact, having different interests avoids an echo chamber effect.
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>>17869853
>If you text first it means you're actually interested in me
That may be how you interpret it, but your interpretation is still wrong. Men who are out to pump and dump will still be plenty willing to text first.
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>>17870660
True. But isn't it at least safe to say that a guy who hasn't reached out to me in a month isn't interested so I should obviously move on?
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>girlfriend recently referred to my family as 'the in-laws' when talking to a mutual friend

Is that weird? Is that something people do? Am I looking into this too much?
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>>17870681
Obviously? A few days I'd say whatever, maybe something came up. If he hasn't contacted you in a month he doesn't have any thoughts about you at all though.
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>>17870682
No, if it's a long term relationship. If you've been together for ages she probably just sees it as a de facto marriage. But if it's not, it is jumping the gun a bit.
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Why did she sit on the armchair instead of opting to sit on the couch? Now how am I supposed to even hold her hand? I'm worried she thinks of me.as just a friend
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>>17870682
It's a pretty normal way to refer to your partner's parents

>>17870691
Probably because you're the sort of guy who has to wait until you're sitting next to her to even consider making a move
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>>17870548
So do you still feel like you're not as attractive as others perceive you, or has that faded and you have begun to see it yourself? Also how old are you? I'm 19 so I'm hoping I can deal with this before I get much older
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>>17870705
27

I don't know, my self-image has improved a lot..but I've also lost a lot of weight. I don't know where I'd put myself on a 1-10 scale nor do I know where others would put me but I don't think of my self as ugly and fat anymore...just fat. But the more in shape I get the more confident I feel. Honestly not sure if the confidence comes from losing the weight though. I kinda feel like I started getting in shape because I started becoming aware that other people found me attractive and I wanted to feel like I matched that, if that makes sense.

27 now by the way.
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>>17870694
You're right but damn, it's hard.
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>>17870682
I call my boyfriend's parents the in-laws all the time.
But we have been together for 8 years and his parents will come over for Christmas at my parent's. So we are pretty fucking married.
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>>17870804
See that makes sense. You're way past long term. That's pretty much like >>17870686
said, de facto marriage.

But we haven't been dating that long. Several months. And we're moving in together next month. And we've had brief discussions about the possibilities in the future...but still haven't had a real 'sit down and talk' sort of conversation about the possibility of marriage. I mean...I can see it. We kinda informally agreed to hold off on talking about it any further until we saw how living together for a while goes but I just keep feeling like she's dropping more and more hints and calling my parents 'the in-laws' just felt like a really really big one.
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>>17870181
Volunteering, at church, at school if you still going to school, at a class about any subject you are into. Join a club, a running group, a yoga class.
Go out and expand your social circle.
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I have dated this girl for 2 months now, we met when I started tutoring her younger sister. The sister is a meek and obedient girl, and she's very hardworking, she did every assignment, and she remembered almost word for word everything I taught her. She's doing very well in math and I'm really proud whenever I look at her. Yesterday when I came for our usual tutorial session, a huge argument broke out between my gf and the sister, I didn't know what happened but my gf was yelling at her and she was crying so I (sort of) took her side, she's just a kid, and also my favorite student. This really upsets my gf. I didn't know why.

And gf stopped talking to me until just now, she told me her sister has a lot of photos of me on her computer, and she has a vibrator, too. This shocked me, she's only 14! However now my gf starts thinking that I led her sister on, "yeah sure you never gave the wrong signs, how do I know you never gave her those pics/opportunities to take them?" and she believes I want to have sex with her sister! what a headache, what am I supposed to do, an important exam for her sister is coming next year, I can't just abandon the girl. I feel terrible about this.
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>>17870825
>several months
okay, that's kind of weird. I certainly wouldn't call my bf's parents my in laws until at least the year/two year mark (provided I've met them etc.). She might be hinting that she wants it to go further, which, after a few months, is a bit clingy and strange.
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>>17870825
She is definitely rushing things a bit.
I'd say ignore it, if you catch her doing it in front of you just ask her about it.
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>>17870828
>However now my gf starts thinking that I led her sister on, "yeah sure you never gave the wrong signs, how do I know you never gave her those pics/opportunities to take them?" and she believes I want to have sex with her sister!
I'm a guy, but your gf sounds absolutely batshit fucking insane. I mean, if that happened, she's right to be angry, but accusing you of complicity is a massive red flag.
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I'm 28 and I'm a virgin
I'm not autistic
I've just had a busy life

I'm not autistic
But here I am

I've got a lot of money. I'm fit
Am I disgusting?

I want to take a 25 year old girl out and discover her body and tell her she's beautiful

But I'm 27 and inexperienced
So I know this will never happen
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I'm a 23 year old, handholdless, kissless virgin.
In my, arguably very limited experience, most girls that are my age seem to be in an already established relationships already, and even if they aren't, there are scores of dudes who already got experience behind them to pick from, so is there really any point in me trying to even seek a relationship.

The only reason I am asking, is not because I even want to experience sex that bad, it is because I am super fucking lonely, and it is killing me.
Should I just accept the wizardhood that life seems to have bestowed upon me?
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My gf can't cum from penetration. She said she came very close a few times, but it went away the next moment.
She looks worried and anxious about it. I tell her that she should not worry, that it will happen eventually and once it happens she will never have the same problem again. I also fuck her the way she likes and advised her to not focus on cumming, but on enjoying the sex (that's how I solved my problem, but it's not the same with women I guess).
Any other advice? Also, anyone know of a legit cunnilingus guide?
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Hey guys, real practical question:

What's the standard procedure for after cumming in rawdog? Now that I've got birth control, I'm letting my boyfriend cum inside me. What are we supposed to do with the mess?

What I've been doing is clamping a hand on the clam to avoid dripping, and I waddle over to the bathroom. I wipe down what I can with tissues and baby wipes, and try to piss.

I kind of wish I didn't have to get up. I just want to cuddle and sleep after sex.

Are we supposed to be putting a towel down before sex?
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>>17870939
I have baby wipes next to our bed, we just quickly clean up like that (I push cum out, too) and then cuddle up against him. After 10-15 minutes I take a shower.
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>>17870939
wipe it on the bedsheets, that's what I do when I have a wank.
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>>17870682
I do the same with my gf, mostly out of convenience. It's a lot quicker to say that "the family of my gf". It's an LTR, by the way.
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>>17870893
>cunnilingus guide
Just find the clit and lick it; try to vary and tease a bit,and stick your fingers in her. Also, most women can't cum from penetration.

Reassure her as much as you can though; compliment her etc as well. It's sexy and relieves worry.
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>>17871020
>most women can't cum from penetration.
Lies. Most woman can cum from penetration and studies found that over 75% of them did at least once.
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>>17871071
Not very often, at least. It's difficult, particularly if your regular partner's cock isn't the right size and you're not a whore who sleeps with everyone.
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>>17870939
Usually my gf does exactly what you do. Most times to avoid that kind of mess, I pull out and do it on her back or stomach then we quickly clean up and just lay down for a bit.
So maybe do it that way if you want the cuddle bit after?
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>>17871129
If you say that women can't come from penetration you are implying some level of physical limitation that rarely is present. Some women legitimately are unable to orgasm from penetration, most just have partners who don't bother/can't making them come.
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>>17870881
>I'm not autistic
>I'm not autistic

You said it twice. I think you're autistic.
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>>17870681
A month, sure. A few days? No. Men are imperfect just as women are, they often over think about how to talk to her or afraid of appearing clingy when they'd be completely reasonable at that moment.
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Guys. Honest question asked out of curiosity?
Why do men value purity so much?
Obviously being a whore is a negative, and fucking a different guy every night etc. But why is it such an issue if a girl has had a couple of relationships beforehand?
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>>17870199
>>17870230
the parent thing was either a lie or a convenient cop-out. sometimes women will accept initially and do a soft rejection over the course of several weeks/make-up dates (that also get bailed on) because this is easier than an upfront rejection
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>>17870939
might want a towel set up prior to the creampie. otherwise if you're comfortable with it sitting in you/getting the sheets dirty, just let it be for a bit before waddling away to piss/wipe?
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>>17871200
relationships aren't an issue, don't let the s/adv/irgins fool you. most guys won't care if your relationships were exclusive and a clean break-up
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>>17871200
generally guys prefer to settle with a girl who had less sex than him. So what you said might or might not be an issue at all, depends on the guy. If we're talking about temporary relationship then I doubt he cares.
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Could it work, exes coming back together?
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>>17871200
Since I can't think of a better metaphor, it's kind of like buying a used car. You don't want one that's had a lot of owners if it's not that old since it means it's got problems and has been picked up by others that possibly abused it pretty badly.

So a lot of relationships would mean you don't commit very well, that you are just casual about things and that you aren't worth investing time in since you might leave at any moment for someone else. So a few is fine but if it's a fairly high number of partners/relationships then it's not.
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>>17871236
it works in my RPG.
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>>17871234
Pretty much, girls with lots of experience are very often manipulative and will have a back up dude always ready.
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>>17871237
But what about say, 1 or 2?
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>>17871243
I don't mean lots, just one or two boyfriends where the relationships didn't work for whatever reason. People seem to act like that's a complete deal breaker.
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>>17871256
>>17871259
Are you asking whether every guy will accept a girl of your specific sexual background?
Why do you need the approval of every or even most guys? No one is that universally compatible.
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>>17871263
I don't, I'm just trying to understand the need for 'purity'. I don't need the approval of random people on the internet; I have a happy LTR that is my first and probably my last. I am just genuinely curious about this mindset.
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>>17871200
>Why do men value purity so much?
People don't want to the second choice. Regardless of how bad or good the sex is, if you sleep with a virgin you are in a sense her first choice, always.

Personally I don't mind if a woman has had a few relationships, but I do understand the mentality a lot of the time. I tend to be a rebound option a lot of the time since I'm often perceived to be "safe" and it feels like I'm not allowed to be salty over that a lot of the time. There's that pervasive sense of "just being good enough".

>>17871236
Depends on if you resolved why the two of you are exes to begin with.
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>>17871256
1 or 2 is fine by me honestly. Once it gets closer to 10 partners is where I start to probably not want a relationship with you.
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>>17871268
>I'm just trying to understand the need for 'purity'

I think I answer this question before, you should research the old thread ;)
If you truly want to understand something, keep asking the same question isn't gonna achieve that. If that is the case, you'd see mathematicians and physicists everywhere.
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How do I start holding a girls hand? Like do I ask "can I have your hand?" "can we hold hands?" etc. or just fucking grab her hand when we're walking?

This might sound like a minor thing but it helps to break the touch barrier and we're both awkward as fuck.
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Women.
What would you do differently if you were hypothetically in no way concerned with attracting or retaining a mate?
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>>17871271
I don't have any contact with my ex anymore, and I doubt that the problems we had will be easily resolved, which are really to be found in our nature and characteristics, more than circumstances.
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>>17871282
You mean, if we don't want a partner? Well, generally not show any flirtatious signs towards whatever gender one is attracted to, focus on friends and family etc. Why do you ask?
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>>17871278
Just go for it. Do it gently, like, nudging her hand with yours. If she responds then just slip your hand in hers. Easy.>>17871274
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>>17871274
Must be a different anon. I've never asked before.
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>>17871286
>which are really to be found in our nature and characteristics, more than circumstances.
Then I don't really see why it would work a second time. If someone was insecure and they resolved it, or had anger issues and figured out coping mechanisms or whatever else I could see an argument for getting back together. But if its the same shit why won't it fuck up the same way?
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>>17871287
It just seems to me that so much effort is put in by women to appear attractive.
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>>17871278
give your hand to her if you are facing each other.

reach for her hand if you are side by side.

This reminds me, the last time I was walking with a girl, I lagged behind a bit, and she tried to reach for my hand the exact moment I was increasing my pace to catch up with her. Her hand hit my dick, hard. That was hilarious and awkward, after 1 minute of silence she was blushing and apologizing for 30 minutes straight.
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>>17870853
Ok, I talked to her, she has calmed down a bit, but she said I should not be alone in a room with her sister anymore. I agreed to that and also asked her not to tell her parents about this. Maybe I should ask her if I could teach her sister through emails/ chat next
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>>17871300
She was more nagging about small stuff, not really seeing the big picture. Getting overreacted when we had arguments and then instantly going to a lot of reasons why it wouldn't work, really pessimistic view.

Yeah, you're probably right. And while I'm typing this, I didn't really see an effort from her side as well.

Thanks, anon.
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>>17871303
tbqh it's mostly so other women are jealous. Most women are not stupid; men like boobs, asses and hips and legs. Provided those are showing, and they're any good, men'll be interested. Most of the effort into hair+clothing+makeup is for other women.
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>>17871324
But what's the point? That seems very stupid, to me.
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>>17871200
If we're going by the population, on average, it's only really possible to "get" one virgin.
Some guys just have never had "their" one, and want it.
There's a competition/feather in the cap aspect to it. Since in reality, there isn't a one to one match where every guy has been with a virgin, that must mean that "better stock" of proven manliness is taking the virgins before everyone else. So in order for them to feel like manly conquerors themselves, they're going to have to "get" at least one of their own.

I don't think it's the easiest thing to explain, and it's just one perception. It's dumb though.


Virgins with virgins is a whole 'nother ballgame though, especially when it comes to the marriages. That shit is romantic but exceedingly unrealistic. Some people want that romantic wedding night awkward mutual first time fantasy, even if they're not religious.
And well, if that's what they're truly after, that is why they'll reject a non-virgin. It's not because the other person is an evil impure thing, it's because the virgin doing the rejecting can't afford to do things the that are going to make them not a virgin. There's no backsies, they'll have to murder their fantasy.
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>>17871200
>Why do men value purity so much?

Outside of the echo chamber that is 4chan, they don't really as much as you seem to think they do. In fact, there are definitely guys that will actively avoid being someone's first because that shit can be pretty awkward, terrible sex, and kind of a bit of extra pressure knowing that as the experienced one, it's kind of on you to guide them and have their first be one be something positive.

For the guys that do value "purity" it's usually either due to some cultural/religious reason (either because that's the way they were raised and told was right) or it's because they have some feelings of being afraid of being compared to anyone else.

And I say this as someone who was intentionally abstinent until the age of 24 waiting for the "right person", met her, had it fail, then figured eh fuck it, why not see what the hub-bub is about.

>>17870939
>What's the standard procedure for after cumming in rawdog? Now that I've got birth control, I'm letting my boyfriend cum inside me. What are we supposed to do with the mess?

I know my girlfriend keeps wipes on the side for a quick cleanup after.

But heads up, birth control is not 100% effective, and him cumming in you DOES raise the chance of you getting pregnant.
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>>17871325
It's like, a competition. Also, it just feels good in and of yourself to look good. Not for any particular reason, but the satisfaction of finding a good outfit is really addictive.
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>>17871332
I agree about awkward with both being first timers; my and my bf were each other's first (not marriage or anything, just when we were teenagers) and it was very awkward. But we got better.
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>>17871200
>Why do men value purity so much?

It's hilarious that your generalization doesn't meet the same scorn as the "all women are sluts" generalization. Even though both are equally dumb.

This guy got it
>>17871234
>generally guys prefer to settle with a girl who had less sex than him

Think hard about that.
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>>17870939
we keep paper towels next to the bed. i wipe what i can imediately and then put one towel between my legs to prevent leakage during cuddling. then i get up and go clean myself up in the toilett (baby wipes, peeing, shower if i feel like i need one).
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>>17871351
Valuing purity isn't an insult. Slut is. It's not hard. Generalisations are necessary to ask general questions, and I think that anon was mostly aiming that at the men on here.
>Think hard about that.
Why?
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>>17871344
This is what women always say,
I can't understand it. I couldn't give a flying fuck about what i look like for myself. I only care about what i look like to give other people a good impression of me.
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>>17871256

I would say 5-6 is the cutoff.
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>>17871385
>Valuing purity isn't an insult. Slut is.
And hilarious mean funny, it's not hard.

>Generalisations are necessary to ask general questions
Yes and stating this obvious fact is for what purpose...

>why?
because he gave a general answer. Other long answers are its special cases, which is a lot of time wasted.
I hope when someone ask about a general property of a population they are mentally prepared for an answer that only "generally" applies.
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>>17871398
Maybe don't bother trying to understand and just appreciate the dressing up, whatever the reason. Hell, convince yourself it's for you, stroke your ego
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>>1787128
Probably nothing appearance-wise. I thought I would say "I wouldn't shave my legs", but I actually shave my legs even when no one can see them because hair grosses me out.

I would cook lazier food if I didn't have my boyfriend. I wouldn't bother cooking fine food just for myself.
And leave the razor in the bathtub.
That's probably it.
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>>17871405
>And hilarious mean funny, it's not hard.
That sentence does not make sense.

>because he gave a general answer.
Saying think about that implies some kind of point has been made. If you don't get the connotations of such phrasing, your autism is beyond hope.

You're getting up in arms over nothing. If you genuinely can't see why saying 'all women are sluts' and asking 'why do most men value purity' is different, you're just retarded.
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I fucked up.
This >>17871408 was for you >>17871282
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>>17871406
No, i have to understand things. It's in the core of my being.

>>17871412
I got that.
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>>17871410
>If you genuinely can't see why saying 'all women are sluts' and asking 'why do most men value purity' is different

They are funny because they are dumb. No one said they are the same. People hate questions that generalize them into a ill perceived stereotype (like some anons implied only on 4chan men have such preference). If you don't see this, you're just retarded


>Saying think about that implies some kind of point has been made
Maybe it is your lack of thinking that prevents you from understanding the point made. I have no time to explain that to you.

>You're getting up in arms over nothing
Like when you are not the OP but started insulting a random anon? I'm almost 100% positive you're an angry autist who lacks self awareness.
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>>17871398
>I couldn't give a flying fuck about what i look like for myself.
Don't you like looking good? Doesn't it make you feel good to be good looking?
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>>17871438
Not in the slightest. Not for it's own sake. The only reason i care about how i look is it affects how others treat me.
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Because I'm a huge loser, I'm putting together a Christmas Eve box for my boyfriend. Inside it, I'm putting the comfiest pair of pyjamas, some amazing and rare Christmas beers, chocolate coins, a really awesome hot chocolate and maybe a gift card for amazon so he can choose any film he wants. I also wanted to try and make it a bit more adult by offering to do absolutely anything he wants to do when we go to bed - however I appreciate this sounds like I'm doing him a favour rather than wanting to sleep with him.

How can I word this, on a card or something, without making him feel bad and edging more for us both, as opposed to something just for him?
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>>17871490
>Take me, you beautiful man. Take me however you want.
Best i could come up with. Probably works better in speech than in writing, though.
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What signals can u pick up from just talking to a girl u just met?
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Girls and guys


I just masturbated for the first time in 3 weeks. Instead of receiving a dose of relaxation and pleasure. As soon as I came all I felt was waves of guilt and regret. Now, I'm laying in my bathroom floor sick to my stomach, and my head feels weird. I felt perfectly fine before I fapped...

What do
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>>17871502

Thanks but that isn't really the angle I'm going for - it's more kind of a free pass for anything he wants to do for me. Pretty much just me being his slut for the evening, only I don't want to ruin all the sweet Christmas cheer with dirty sex stuff.
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>>17870887
Someone pls respond
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>>17871521
>it's more kind of a free pass for anything he wants to do for me
Oh ok
>Call Tyrone and the gang
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>>17871521
Buy red, lace lingerie (for you). Wrap it and put it at the bottom of his box.
Write a small note and say something like "Tonight, when we go to bed, I'll wear this and do everything you ask me to."
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>>17871534

Goodness me, I actually meant "to" me. Freudian slip...

>>17871536

This is a good idea but unfortunately I look crap in lingerie. I might try change this idea to suit me though - thanks :)
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>>17871527

I'm 25, and not a virgin (had sex twice several years ago)

But I'm wondering the same thing as you. I'm not sure what to do
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>>17871521

Do this

https://youtu.be/tBImpwYiBKA
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Anyone

How is it that you can like to spend most of your time alone. But you still feel lonliness?
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>>17871585
>How is it that you can like to spend most of your time alone. But you still feel lonliness?

We're naturally social creatures. Loneliness is natural. We hardwired to want a friends, family, social structure. That's the shit that'll help us pass on our genes.

However, asocial behaviour is learned. Whether it's by being alienated by others so your primitive instincts see you as your entire tribe and everyone else as foreign playing on our instinct xenophobia (the tribes without it died out pretty quickly), or whether a traumatic even just taught you to be less trusting.

You may feel happiest and most comfortable alone, but you'll always want someone to trust. A family.
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>>17870887
>I'm a 23 year old, handholdless, kissless virgin.

Handholdless, kissless virgin 'til 24.
First relationship at 26, still in it 2 years later.

What's in your way is your crippling lack of self confidence and inferiority/whatever issues.

Fix those.

How? Put yourself fucking out there. Fail. Learn. Improve. Repeat. That's what worked for me. If you don't want to believe that, nothing anyone else is going to tell you will help you and it's fucking on you to figure out what works for you then, but it's ON YOU, no one else.
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>>17871595

>but you'll always want someone to trust.
>a family

but I never want to have a family.
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How to eat pussy better? I made this diagram of what I want to try with my fwb. She says I don't give her enough attention during sex and she likes getting eaten out. Would girls like to try what is depicted in my diagram?
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>>17871600
Not him, but I'm the 25 year old who replied to him.


How hard was it? When you got your first girlfriend? Was it difficult adjusting? Is it weird? Did she make fun of you for not knowing anything and being sexless during everyone else's crazy years?
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>>17871610
Oops here is diagram
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>>17871610

Post diagram
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>>17871613

kek
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>>17871618
That is a face of enjoyment because I anticipate she would enjoy it
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>>17871613
Femanon here and that made me laugh so much. Not sure what i was expecting to see. We need more artwork anon.
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>>17871613
you mean facesitting? sure, it's pretty neat. you can also play with her nipples simultaneously and she can rub herself against you.
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>>17871625
No bum on the face tho, i don't like the poo
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>>17871622
I need to think of more things to try and I will draw
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>>17871629

Why not go watch Lesbian porn? Lol? You'll learn a lot
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>>17871629
Yes you do ! Start your own thread and ask for advice on how to improve your artwork. Do it do it.
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>>17871632
I am at the work now and porn is no good because I cannot walk around with a massive boner
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>>17871636
You can and should. Show those ladies your meat stick.
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>>17871639
I cannot because the human resources have a sexual harassment file for me for saying I liked the breasts of a collegue at our holiday Christmas party
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>>17871642
Strap it down with tape
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>>17871642

Lmao
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>>17871611
>How hard was it?

That's hard to explain because why I was a handholdless kiss less virgin for so long was rooted in both my own beliefs about waiting for the right person (truthfully, this was partially an excuse I was telling myself because I was afraid to putting myself out there and failing), and in my own fucked up mental health and crippling social anxiety.

Basically, I was a complete social recluse until about 18 (afraid to answer doors, meet peoples eyes, or even order food at restaurants because I'd have to talk to a stranger) and I forced myself step by step built my social skills up from basically nothing at 18, to the point where I'd be making myself drop by restaurants after work, sit at the bar, and talk to a total stranger at 22.

It was also about that time that I forced myself to kick almost a decade long of depression (ultimatumed myself with a date, be done by 22 one way or the other. Date came. Never let myself be depressed again).

From there at about 22-23ish I met a girl. Her story was so fucked up, and she took it like a champ with a smile, and it inspired me. I thought, hey if she can do it, I can try too. Fast forward a year and some change later, we're friends and I'm realizing I'm falling for her.

I decide to 100% put myself out there to someone for the first time in my life. I take a shot. She kisses me. I'm ecstatic, but a week later, I self-destruct, and basally come off like a cringe as fuck psycho. So of course that falls through.

After that I realize, all the time I've been afraid of what happens when I fail, and this time I failed miserably, but even that felt better than the toxic as fuck feeling of never making a move and wondering, "what if". From that moment on, pretty much no fucks given for me in ANY social interaction.

Fastforward half a year or so later, I've been doing online dating, go out with a girl, we have a good time, she wants sex, I figure, fuck it why not (that's another story though).
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>>17870887
>23
>Wizardoom
ayy

>I decided to stop being a faggot at 27. Kissless handholdless virgin.
>Got gud with conversations online after 500+ conversations
>Got gud with conversations in person after 50+failed dates
>Eventually scored with a 6/10 milf
>After the first one I got laid with one 8 years younger than me
>After that one I got into all sorts of one-night stands and fwb.
And currently single because fuck, the 2d life is superior. Girls that embody pure ideals will never be as shallow as real humans.
Sex is boring. Girls I've been with go crazy and it does feel good, but I'd rather be doing something productive such as writing. Shit's weird yo.
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>>17871655
the point of this post is that even if you're an autistic fuck you just need to get good and try again and again. If you don't try you will never succeed.
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For the 69 as depicted in my diagram, is the poo in the man face? That is my concern but it looks like very fun. I believe my fwb would enjoy because she likes the oral both the giving and the taking
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>>17871655

>all sorts of one night stands and fwb

I don't like reading this...
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>>17871661

Lmao
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>>17871661
>thumbs up
Lmfao keep drawing
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>>17871661
You have a talent
Youve made me horny. I want to do this now.
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>>17871663
Eat that pussy
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>>17871651

Also, she didn't care that I was a virgin.


> Was it difficult adjusting? Is it weird?

After that I went on a slew of dates, pretty much just going out to go out and get experience.

Nothing is weird if you go in with an open mind, ready to learn. Almost nothing is ever awkward if you don't let it be and lead by example.

At some point I completely stopping thinking of it as dates and just purely thought of it as the same shit I used to do at restaurants, going out to enjoy myself grabbing some food or drinks, and talking to a totally random stranger.

>Did she make fun of you for not knowing anything and being sexless during everyone else's crazy years?

Nah. My lack of experience wasn't really evident because I've always been very attentive, curious, and level headed. It's a consequence of how I grew up. I built myself up and i'm proud of it, so why the fuck do I have to feel insecure? It's to the point where sometimes she admits she kind of hates that she feels like she's the one being dumb or immature in the relationship sometimes (like one of the bigger ones at the start is, I believe she's with me because she genuinely likes me, and because I'm worth it. That means I have ZERO jealousy issues because if she finds someone "better" good for her, but her loss. She did however, used to sometimes get jealous of other girls being around me. After two years it's a bit more settled though).


>TL:DR
If you want to get good at dating/social skills/whatever you need to put in the work, and grind it out 'til you've got the experience and know how. The harder you grind, the more times you repeat, the more you learn and the more stable your building blocks and fundamentals become.
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>>17871618
>>17871663
Keeping these for reaction faces desu
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>>17871662
after 28 years of being a virgin I knew I needed experience for my future gf. I didn't want to be bad at sex. But then I discovered people are really bland. Kinda like an rpg where you already know how the conversation is going to go and what you need to do to make some characters fo this or that.
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>>17871661
Please somebody answer
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>>17871684

No. Your sense of anatomy is kind of off, or else your FWB's hygiene is messy as fuck and needs to clean better, if you think that's a problem.
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>>17871682

I'm 25 and only had sex twice (when I was 20, and one of the times was just a really lousy bj).

I don't feel prepared for shit.
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>>17871691
I am poor with geometry and it is difficult for me to imagine where the bodily holes are positioned relative to my face
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>>17871696

When you get home from work. Look up
Mia Malkova on 4Tube. She'll teach you everything you need to know.
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For the style depicted in my diagram for eating the pussy, do girls like this?
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>>17871693
>I don't feel prepared for shit.
Nigga after watching porn for 25 years in a row you should be prepared to be a porn actor. You have the theory, you just need them moves.
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>>17871714

HAHAHHAA
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What could this girl be thinking:
The first day we met (both new students to a graduate program) she was sitting with a friend in a table near me, she was wearing shorts, I checked her out, eyeing her thigh and she noticed, she opened her thigh and I got a good look at her crotch. The professor came in and started briefing the new students. After that we talked for awhile, she ditched her friend (the angry looking girl sitting right next to her) and told me if I want to meet her at the library, to pick out some interesting books. In the afternoon we ended up making out at a secluded booth in the library reading area, she let me finger her to orgasm, then we went to the bathroom and she gave me a handjob. That was the first day. The second day, when she handed me a note (was to be distributed amongst our class), our hands touched, I smiled, but she acted all embarrassed, avoided my eyes. Everyday after that she was very cold towards me and she sat with her friend (the angry looking girl) at lunch instead. Should I even bother pursuing this girl?
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>>17871717

but, I don't want to do casual sex
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>>17871742

>that was the first day

How do things like this happen? For real... this is real life? I thought that only happened in movies
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>>17871743
Then you're gonna have a bad time finding a girl who is just like you in this aspect.
>Finding a girl after 25 that isn't full into the dick caroussel.
I mean it's possible but... it will take a lot of time.
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>>17871714
Are you talking about licking ass because idk any girl who's actually into that
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>>17871747
Well, we introduce our name, talk about which class to take, which book to read, pick an activity to do together.
Don't know what else to tell you man.

It's not like she's still interested in me anyway.
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>>17871677
>After that I went on a slew of dates, pretty much just going out to go out and get experience.
How critical do you think that was? As in, do you think it would have any impact if you had met your current gf before you went out on all of those dates to build up experience? I like to think I'm in a mostly good place, but I have little dating experience and don't really meet a lot of people I click with.
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>>17871758

Believe me, I'm very aware that girls my age are very sexually experienced. I don't ever expect to find one who isn't...

But I just don't know what to do, because I don't want to have one night stands or Fwb. That's the reason I've been keeping my distance from girls. Because I don't want casual sex.
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>>17871764

But like, how do you go from meeting in the library to making out a hour later?
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>>17871796
I understand. But if you can fuck your gf's brain's out you'll always get extra points.
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>>17871714
*sniffs ass*
*frowns*
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>be me, an asshole
>find bf
>move in together
Fast forward four years:
>religious parents want back in my life after pushing me out and find out I've been living with boyfriend
>threaten boyfriend to propose to me
>force us to marry within months
>he's got anger problems, abuses my dog, says he will kill himself if I leave him, and gained 75 lbs
>just found out I'm bipolar and he is super not understanding at all....

wtf is wrong with me? Why can't I cut my parents out of my life or say no to anybody.... is my life totally ruined now? Is killing myself the only way out of this mess?
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>>17871810

It's just a shitty, it's like a loop. Why would a experienced girl want someone like me who knows jack shit? They'd rather have a experienced guy who can take care of them
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>>17871827
And that's what the one night stands are for.
Ain't the best system but...
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>>17871800
Well our library has a reading area with separated booths. We picked one with no people in the next booth, and started talking about this specific book that might be used for our course ( the measure theory book by Wheeden), then I joked about how his definition of Riemann integral would be terrible for small talk at party, she laughed and turned to look at me, then I leaned over and kissed her and she went along with it.
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>>17871833

I just don't feel comfortable with that...
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>>17871819
Maybe of she likes the tongues it would be pleasurable. She must scrub the bum first in the tub
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>>17871839

That's crazy. Only in fucking college.
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>>17871855
uh, if a girl agrees to go to a secluded place with you, feel free to try kissing her.
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>>17871793
>How critical do you think that was?

Straight up, I would not be the same person I am today if I did not go through all that dating experience. It all taught me A LOT. Not just about dating, but about who I was as a person, how my own emotions work, what it is I want from relationships, and who I wanted to be.

Just one example:

Through my dating experiences, I pretty quickly realized I'm a pretty flirtatious and charismatic guy. I'm very free with my compliments and they always come from a sincere place, I am an excellent listener have a way of talking to people that makes them feel like I'm genuinely trying to connect with and value them as a real person.

All of that is what makes people (even women on first dates) feel fairly comfortable around me fairly quickly.

But what I had to learn the hard was was, because of the way I grew up, because of how socially anxious I used to be, some deep down part of me started to become addicted to attention and validation.

For a little while, I'd fall in to a certain circular trap...where one day I'd be dating someone and just realize I didn't actually like them as much as I thought I did, and would end up with me feeling like i was an asshole that was leading people on.

It took that happening a couple times for me to realize, "oh. This is happening for a reason. After decades of feeling unattractive, I'm becoming addicted to the attention of someone liking me and sub-consciously turning up my flirt so they like me more. Harsh truth is It's not really them I like, it's their attention".

So I had to learn to separate that, tone it down, and be mindful of liking people for who they were, and not because they liked me.

It SOUNDS obvious as fuck, but being honest with my own emotions were was a hard learned lesson.

If I DIDN'T learn that, I'm not sure I'd be so confident in how much I ACTUALLY care about my girlfriend--especially since it's my first relationship.
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>>17871738

He aint havin a good time

That bitch aint showered
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>>17871869

That doesn't sound like a good idea outside of the uni environment...
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>>17871855

Mate I've done that with girls I've worked with, going for walks around town and in parks and stuff.

You just gotta know when they want you to kiss them
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>>17871793
>I like to think I'm in a mostly good place, but I have little dating experience and don't really meet a lot of people I click with.


As a side note, I dated numerous people I had no real interested in, purely because I thought it'd be interesting to meet new people who I had no real common ground with. It opened up my horizons, open my mind up to a lot of new opinions and ideas, and let me come across a lot of people I otherwise wouldn't.

In fact, I probably otherwise would never have met my girlfriend, because at face value, I wouldn't necessarily think we'd fit.
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>>17871888

That attitude is why it never happens to you anon

Sounds like you're hyping up uni to be this magical place where anything goes, it isnt. Its just the same as everywhere else

At uni, everyone fucks each other. At work, everyone fucks each other.

At social gatherings between friends of mixed genders: Inevitably eveyone fucks each other. Its normal
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>>17871900

>At work, everyone fucks each other.
>At social gatherings between friends of mixed genders: Inevitably eveyone fucks each other. Its normal

I've never heard or seen of this happening
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Last question. Is this the best way to do it?
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>>17871900
Where the fuck do you work?
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>>17870939
Regardless of him cumming inside you should always pee after penetrative sex. You can get an infection if you don't. (Unless mayne you use a condom but I'm just assuming you're not doing that lol).

It just increases the risk of getting an infection a lot, and if you do that's like no sex for a week or two.
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>>17871942

Hahahah omg, dude your artwork is making me lol.

Please draw more
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>>17871900

What country do you live
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>>17871942
your ribs are showing. pls eat more... and take care to not break your penis when you do this
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>>17871973
I am very frail
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>>17870939
We keep designated sex towels next to the bed, clean up with those, and wash them regularly.

Also, seconding the peeing after sex thing. It can make a lot of difference, especially if you're prone to UTIs. It sucks having to get up, but it's important. As soon as you're done you can cuddle, and the bed will be nice and warm.
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I went and saw my ex of 7 months / best friend of 5 years.
Hanging out was wonderful.
At the mall he offered to buy me things or lend me money.
> declined his offer
He bought me a $12 item anyways and food.
Then when we got back to his place he said he'd buy me whatever I wanted.
>Why would he do that?
I had given him a blow job the night previously but not sex. I don't think he was trying to convince me to sleep with him by buying me things
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>>17871959

England

>>17871910
>>17871946

Im 22 and I've worked a few jobs in my time and tend to end up sleeping with someone at my work at some point or another, and Im not an outlier

Everyone is hooking up. Most people meet their significant other for life at work, you know why? Because you spend so much time with them, of course people are gonna end up attracted to each other

>At social gatherings between friends of mixed genders: Inevitably eveyone fucks each other. Its normal
>I've never heard or seen of this happening


You mean to tell me, in your circle of friends where people are both guys and gals, everyone is single, people only hook up outside of the group?

My friendship circle is pretty defined by who hooked up with who
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>>17871200
Fear of not measuring up, fear of being her second best. General insecurity.

It passes.
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>>17872090

>You mean to tell me, in your circle of friends where people are both guys and gals, everyone is single, people only hook up outside of the group?

My circle of friends consists of 5 people. All 5 of them met their girlfriends while they were in Uni.
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>>17872104
>your circle of friends is 4 guys
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>>17872109

I have 3 female friends. But they are not in that group. they all have boyfriends which they met at Uni
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>>17872104

Why dont you have female friends?
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Why do some guys post photos of their girlfriends on 4chan without their knowledge or permission? Not even nudes, just selfies or photos in general where their faces are showing.
Why would you do this? If the shoe were on the other foot, would you be complaining?
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Do shy/silent girls who dress probably too decent (no cleavages or super tight clothes), has no crazy hair colour and wears dark colors have any chance to get noticed by guys?
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>>17872126

Yes

Contrary to popular opinion, guys vision does extend past nice asses and cleavage.

But, dressing like a plane jane every day wont help your chances, if you want a specific guy to notice you, dressing up nice for him wouldn't hurt your chances
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>>17872114

>>17872113
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>>17872125
Because women are property and we're comparing our goods
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>>17872137
What does nice mean? I've been told by some I dress feminine with a classy touch, it's just that I avoid revealing clothes and would rather put on 6 layers of clothing t
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It means something different for everyone, but realistically dressing so that you look pretty

If you cant tell for yourself what is pretty, then
If you wear an outfit, and someone says you look nice, then its a good outfit
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So how to lick the pussy?
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>>17872239

See>>17871942
>>17871714
>>17871661
>>17871613
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Would you leave your partner if they got HIV from someone while you were broken up but before they found out you had plans to get back together?

is it weird of me to still love someone and want to be with them even though we couldn't have sex? I mean, there are other ways around that.

If you had HIV would you be with someone else with HIV just because?
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>>17872278
Yes
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>>17872278
Well my fwb has HIV and I still take care of her needs.
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>>17872024
Anyone ?
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>>17872024
how much for a blow job again? 12$?
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>>17872278
>Would you leave your partner if they got HIV
Yes
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Girls, I'm buying my gf some sexy lingerie for Christmas. We went to a few stores yesterday for some ideas.

Are there any big DON'Ts of buying this type of stuff? She wants something tight, dommy, latexy, leathery etc
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so I went to a party a few weeks ago and I was talking to a few girls with my buddies, we all had fun and were drinking and I was having fun with this hot chick. 2 days later her friend texted a friend of mine and she said "so I think Anon is a little in love with Anonette". I have no idea where this is coming from and all my friends said nothing happened at the party (I cant remember myself), wtf do girls mean by this? we played a game by the way and I had this reputation as kind of a player and I managed to smoothen that out at the party.
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>>17872380
If you're a teenager that behaviour is expected. If you're an adult that's a redflag
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>>17872380
also I never spoke with her before and never thought anything about her but she does know my ex very well, at the party was the only time I spoke to her. I did like her very much but how can someone immediately think that I'm in love? and how do I avoid that
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>>17872384
yeah were both not in highschool anymore what do u mean with red flag? I really don't want to be so attached to a girl at a party, next time I'm not getting that drunk anyway
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>>17872126
yes so much, only insecure men go after sluts who show big cleavage, I know lots of girls who nearly never show cleavage and they're way better looking and way more fun to hang out with than those selfie sluts
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>>17872391
>red flag?
She might be really into you or you embarrassed yourself by being really into her but who cares

And yeah I'd cut back on drinking so much. It took me 6 years of drinking to learn my limits desu
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Girls, would you rather be called hoe or princess?
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>>17872483
Assuming you mean princess in a negative way, it doesn't matter, because I know I'm neither
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Girls do you prefer this
>>17871942
Or this
>>17871613
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>>17872487
Why are you not a princess in a positive way?
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>>17872502
Because I am not literal royalty and I'm not delusional enough to think I am?
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Is it normal for girls not to text back as frequently after the first date?

I'm assuming I just fucked up and I shouldn't text back anymore
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>>17871600
>What's in your way is your crippling lack of self confidence and inferiority/whatever issues.
How do you fix crippling depression, and the fact that I hate myself, and that I want to die?

>How? Put yourself fucking out there. Fail. Learn. Improve. Repeat.
I have tried that. I have gone with my classmates to bars etc parties, and that hasn't really helped me at all.
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Would you date a guy that doesn't have an interesting life or any hobby's? I keep hearing they're needed to have women find you more attractive.
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>>17872506
Play hard to get
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>>17872508
If he himself isn't boring, then sure. If he's boring, then no; would you date someone who's boring?
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>>17872506
If they've lost interest in him, yes. Whether she's completely lost interest isn't something that we can tell you with what you've told us though
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>>17872504
>and I'm not delusional enough to think I am?
But I am delusional enough to think you are. Does this count for nothing?
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>>17872519

Yeah, fair enough. I thought things went well but I won't dwell on it too long and try to move onto better things. Thanks, anon!
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>>17872511

By playing the same game?
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>>17872533
Exactly. If she does like you a bit maybe she will think she's scared you off and will fall for the meme
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>>17872535

Well if that means not texting then alright, I can do that.
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>>17872543
Take like 30min minimum to respond to her texts, if you're having a texting convo suddenly don't respond for an hour and say somebody called or something.
Make her think she's not a priority for you and if she likes you she'll try and become a priority
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>>17872126
>Do shy/silent girls who dress probably too decent (no cleavages or super tight clothes), has no crazy hair colour and wears dark colors have any chance to get noticed by guys?

Depends on how she acts.

There's this girl at work. Real cute. Looks like a friggin' anime character, massive blue eyes.

She might be nice. Maybe. I don't know. I won't speak to her.

Because she seems like a stone cold bitch whose face is paralysed into a perma-frown,.

You shouldn't judge a book by a cover, but all the jews who thought that way got gassed trying to befriend nazis.
So, yeah, I'd rather be a prejudging cuntbag than an easy target so...

I mean, she still got noticed, and she's shy, dresses decently and has normal hair colour. Didn't get noticed for any good reason though, I'd avoid the shit out of her.

If you wanted to be noticed in a good way... focus on being approachable - there is much more to it than looks.
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>>17872126
People here seem to be focusing on your appearance in answering this question, and not really considering that you're shy and don't talk. And because of that, you're unlikely to be noticed. If you don't make an effort to be noticed (and it doesn't have to be with your physical appearance), you won't be noticed. Your appearance is a non-issue here, your personality is the bigger barrier.
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I got put in a group chat with my crush on my FB. Help what do, I'm freaking out lowkey. I'm a dude btw
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>>17872586
Become not a teenager
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>>17872595
In all seriousness, I don't even have her on Facebook and I hate all my shit on there.
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>tfw gf never asks about me or how my day is going

I'll ask about hers, we'll talk about it and go into detail, but she never asks about what's going on in my life. And I'd feel conceited to interject and start talking about myself.

How can I have conversations with her that are more 2-way?
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Girls

What could this say about her view of me?

>This girl and I never seem to refer each other by out names, or by nicknames.
>When we do talk its simply “Hey” not “Hey, Joe!” or “Hey, (Nickname)"
>We speak quite regularly. Maybe monthly for ~10 hours per conversation.
>But not ONCE, in person or via Text have we called each other any sort of name.
>We've also known each other since January?

Just strange...
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>>17872786
Absolutely fucking nothing
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>>17872800
Probably. But still, for some reason it strikes me as odd.
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Is it fair to ask a girl/guy why things didn't work out after a few dates?

I'm honestly more bummed out because I don't know what went wrong since I perceived everything as fine.
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>>17872827

Nothing has to go "wrong". They probably just weren't that into you. Just because a date isn't bad, doesn't mean someone has to click with the person they went with.

But anyway, asking could be awkward and they don't necessarily even have a conclusive answer for you, but if it genuinely bothers you, sure, you could ask. But it's a bit weird and they don't really have to explain themselves anyway, so I wouldn't recommend asking.
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>>17872786
What's her line of work? I have a habit of never using names, in case I might forget/mistake them, I work with big crowds and this habit snuck into my social life out of work too.
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>>17872894
Were both students and have had several classes together. So I doubt its her forgetting.

Outside of school she is a Waitress? and EMT, and Seasonally a Gardner.
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>>17872126
Guys won't miraculously go out of their way to talk to a girl who is quiet, because she probably doesn't give off a very welcoming vibe. So if you aren't the talkative sort, the key is body language.
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>>17872126
The girl I fell for is that type. So, yes. You can get noticed
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>>17872903
As a waitress, she probably addresses people without using their names frequently. Like in my case, it might just be a habit that stuck.
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>>17872913
Maybe, I really only know that she works in an Italian place. Might be more of a caterer? or something else.

But as far as I can tell, she only does this with me. So, still don't think work is the cause
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How would you feel about a boyfriend who does not get you Christmas and birthday gifts as a matter of principle, and does not expect to receive any from you?
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>>17873081
I'd love a girlfriend like that
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>>17873081

I'd love a girlfriend who did that. I don't like receiving gifts. I hate when people spend money on me
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>>17871826
It doesn't sound like your parents are your problem. Holy shit, go to a fucking therapist and leave the fatass psychotic animal abuser.
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>>17873081
>a matter of principle
What "principle"? It sounds like a load of horseshit already.
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>>17873229

some people don't celebrate holidays. I haven't celebrated a single holiday in several years.
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>>17873250
I don't see how that's a principle. It's just your habit.
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>>17873229
What do you mean?
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>>17873250
I don't celebrate holidays nor birthdays. I still like giving gifts to the people I care about.
Even if you were anti-capitalism/consumerism, there'd still be openings for handmade presents, or presents that are truly useful.
Like anon asked, what principle, exactly?
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>>17873250
>>17873288
I celebrate holidays and birthdays. I just don't do it with presents because i don't like the idea of gifts as obligations.
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Ok femanaons. I met tis girl last week at a resurant she invited me out to celebrate her birth day. Shes pretty cool. So we texted and she asked if i said yes. The conversation ended. Should i text her before we see eaxh other i dont want her to think im not intrested or something
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>>17873329
That's fair. But if you don't do it because you dislike it, you can't stop your gf from giving you gifts if she likes it. If you talk about it, you both can do your thing the way you prefer it.
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>>17869805
Super quick question for females

Ex liked my instagram picture today after not having contact for 5 1/2 weeks.

doesnt mean anything right?
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>>17873393
Super quick question to males

Why do you overthink everything females do?
It's just a click, man.
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>>17873386
If she doesn't feel bad or disappointed that her gifts are not reciprocated then that's a different matter. I still won't expect anything.

But the question remains: How do real girls feel about people like me?

It seems from the replies so far that men are more likely to be okay with it.
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>>17873448
I like feeling like I'm being spoiled, and when the gift is something particular to me, it shows my bf pays attention and that he makes an effort to show he cares.
I also kinda feel good about it because if I get a present, it means I'm doing something right and making him happy.
There are other ways to convey these feelings I'm sure, but this is way I'm used to do it.
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Would a girl like it like this?
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>>17873422
Because women don't think rationally
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>>17873422

so thats a "it means nothing" then lol
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>>17873081
>>17873448
I would be a little disappointed, if I'll be completely honest. I understand the reasoning and I know it doesn't mean he doesn't love me any less. But I like having mementos. Not anything expensive, just little things that shows that he knows what I like. It something I can look at and remember him by.

I also love gift giving so I would have a hard time holding back.

But I'm more or less capable. In fact, I'm sort of doing that this year with my boyfriend for financial reasons. We're trading things that we already have kicking around the house.

Though I'm going a little overboard and I'm getting something of his repaired.

I do agree that the obligations of gifts are a little lame. It means more when someone does it because they want to, not because they feel like they have to. I'd feel guilty if someone gave me something when they didn't want to, or if they really couldn't afford it.
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I asked a girl out, got a yes but to reschedule after the holidays because of her folks coming to town (I saw them so I know that's legit), so I got her number. Next day she is more distant and I'm interpreting mixed messages, so now I'm just trying to give her some space to not freak her out. I work the same days as her so I figure I'll text her when I'm off for Christmas Break so I don't overwhelm her.
Is this common or am I just too daft to clue in?
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>>17873745
>Next day she is more distant
It's the holidays? She's probably busy. This is last minute gift time.
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>>17873745
Uh, maybe she's busy? What with her parents coming to visit her and everything? This is pretty obvious
>>
Girls:
How much of a dealbreaker is it if a guy is palpably an aspie, and would it factor into your decision whether or not to have kids with a guy?

I'm sorry if this falls under the FAQ about insecurities.
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>>17871610
Try the alphabet trick, or spell "I love you" or some shit like that.
>>
~~SURVEY~~

1. Age/sex
2. Country
3. Describe your ideal /comfy/ moment.
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>>17873081
If I had a GF (I mean... I might? I don't know anymore) I have always gotten very personal gifts that are inexpensive but have much more personal value. Bonus points if it's something that we can do together.

I also have given video games, ect.

Mostly, my main gift is my time, dedication, and love. I'll spend weeks working on a painting, poems, or other priceless gifts.

If my woman were to do the same to me I would be the happiest man alive. Your time and dedication is the purest way to show someone you love them, that you pay attention to them, and that you care deeply for them.

Romantic dates and dinners are great as well.

I usually do one of each. A material, fun gift, a priceless personal gift (or two) and a way to spend romantic time together (Date, Dinner, stargazing... hot hot sex.)

Also, don't undervalue tradition. Having a traditional gift you get them every year allows you to display how long you have loved one another and a way to remember that time. Just... like a mug or something is great.

I'm super cheesy when it comes to romance though. Super rough to that whore in the bedroom though.
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>>17873804

>age/sex

25 male

>country

USA

>/comfy/

Sitting on the couch all by myself, watching The Simpsons on TV and eating McDonalds.

Not joking, that is literally 10/10 perfect to me. And, no. I'm not fat. I'm actually in decent physical shape.
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>>17873804
I'm not feeling creative so I'm just going to base it off of my weekend.

21 year old girl from the U S of A

I'd be asleep in bed and I hear the bedroom door open. My boyfriend walks up and crawls into bed next to me. I roll over onto him, nuzzle and cuddle him. Then I rest, falling in and out of sleep, for an hour or two. No obligations that day. The only thing that pulls us up is when our stomachs complain loud enough for breakfast.
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>>17873764
>>17873748
Thanks, glad to hear I'm just an autist.
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>>17871278
just reach for her hand, if she's receptive she'll let you do it. or you can offer her your hand, and she can choose to hold it or not
>>17871742
probably hookup remorse or she feels like a whore for putting out so quickly
>>17872125
bragging rights over strangers on a Laotian silent film forum
>>17872126
i hate approaching shy girls just because 90% of my attempts at conversations end up with her not being receptive or giving conversational dead-ends
>>17872278
yes, one of-and-on partner is not worth risking HIV/AIDS. ask me again when we have a cure for AIDS
>>17872506
it happens, you'll have plenty of first dates, not everyone will be receptive
>>17873804
23/m
usa
lying down on my couch with qt3.14 in a blanket cocoon, either naked or in pj's/sweats and fingering her/sex while spooning
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>>17873830
You're welcome!
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I suppose this is up for anyone to answer.

Last week I had a date. I believe it went well enough. I want to get a second date setup the problem is the holidays seem to make it difficult to keep the momentum going. She will be out of town. Has anyone had this happen and how did you handle it?
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>>17872278
Yes, I would leave them. In principle, I don't want to contribute to the spread of the virus any further. Further, it would be a constant reminder of the breakup, one that could kill me and others. It would make me afraid of them having even the slightest open wound in their mouth when we kissed. It would make sex a no-no for sure. And frankly, as awful as this is, I wouldn't sign up for further emotional commitment with somebody who has an incurable illness like that, even with medicine as advanced as it is now. Too much chance of heartbreak.
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>>17873448
I feel like you're just inconsiderate and lazy to be quite honest.
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How do I make a move on a girl? We're going on dates, but I am hoping to take it a bit further.
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>>17873897
Go for the earlobes.
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>>17873899
What does that mean?
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>>17873911
It means that kissing, nibbling, and otherwise mouthing a girl's earlobes is a great way to physically escalate. It's not exactly an obscene part of the body, but it might as well be an erogenous zone. When hugging from behind, go for the earlobes.
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Would a heartfelt letter push a girl away?
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>>17873917
Oh, uh... We haven't kissed at all. But we're going on another date tomorrow. But i guess I'm saying I don't even know how to kiss a girl. We held hands once.
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>>17873448
Most women won't like it. I wouldn't mind though. If you want to get me something because you were thinking of me I'd appreciate that, but I think it's silly to feel obligated to get someone a present.

So to avoid the hassle just go ahead and get her gifts until the relationship is well established. Then she might understand your point of view or be past the point where she wants gifts all the time.
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>>17869805
>ex broke up because of her hectic schedule, mostly consisting of school
>Her semester ended yesterday
>Today she liked my picture on social media (first contact in 1 1/2 months)


Is she just bored sitting at home and her "like" means she was just bored or is she hinting at me to talk to her?


I felt as since she was the dumper I shouldnt be the one making contact
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>>17873993
We can't know what it means. I suggest liking something on her social media.
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I want girls to tell me I smell good, what is appropriate for me to use in an every day setting (such as uni) and any recommendations on what girls like the best?
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>>17874079
If you have bad odor ( foot) use Milcu powder, if you have bad breath then go to a dentist to fix your gingivitis (reason why your breath stinks most of the time). If you sweat like a pig then use a deodorant and always carry a body spray and stop doing things that makes you perspire all the time.

From my experience , girls tend to like odors that isn't too strong, I use Old Spice body spray and there are some co-workers who told me I smell very nice, otherwise can be said to Axe body sprays. Perception of smell varies though
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>>17874095
I don't have odor problems, I'll give old spice a try though, thanks
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>>17874079
Essential oils. Get something like cedar, sandalwood, orange, ylang ylang, bergamot, cloves, etc
You can go with just one or combine 2-3. Don't go much more than that.

Going with something pure like this will have a better reception than trying to figure out good vs bad colognes.
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>>17874101
Don't limit yourself from Old Spice though. Dove+ body spray is pretty nice too, try the Extra Fresh one
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HEY LADIES

So, there's this girl I used to see when I was a bit younger where our relationship ended badly. She moved away, said some mean shit, so in a drunken stupor I posted pics of us having sex and bragging about it online and she found out and never talked to me again. Flash forward years later and I've not heard from her and she and I are longer friends on social media or followers on Instagram. I kinda want to apologize for being a dick and I was wondering if messaging her on Facebook would be worth it or should I just live with my guilt.

Tldr a posted nudes of an ex years ago and I want to apologize

Thanks in advance.
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>>17874120
You should hang yourself
Truly and honedtly
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>>17874126
Why tho
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>>17874120
If you go for an apology, just don't expect her to forgive you or to even respond, okay?
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>>17873804
25/M
>single, athletic

USA

Waking up next to my sleeping qt in my obscenely plush bed, with the snow lazily falling outside. Too warm and comfy to pull the comforter off, too cold in the room to leave the bed. I'd gently snuggle her awake (maybe see if she's in the mood for a morning romp) then I would make fresh coffee or cocoa for both of us.
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>>17871763
virgin spotted
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