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Being more manly

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So I never grew up as a guy who would get into fights, I feel like that's important here.

I'm 6'0, 140lbs. I am into very rugged, american things. Guns, trucks, patriotism, values, etc. I'm a Traditionalist Catholic if that helps too.

So I met this girl and we've been talking for a while.

We had sex and she literally stopped halfway through to tell me that she doesn't know why, but she's not sexually attracted to me. She wants to fuck me, but she just isn't used to someone inexperienced like I am. Now, she is a heavy submissive. She likes to be called a dirty whore and stuff. I've never done that with a girl, but it seems fun. She said that I'm not very confident in bed, but that we could work on it.

That hurt. The other night, she also told me that I'm not as manly as I try to be. That there's nothing wrong with that, it's just not the way I am. That hurt even more.

I jack off 1-2 times a day.

How the fuck do I become more dominant/aggressive/alpha/manly?
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Go to /fit/ read the sticky gain 40 lbs 140 at 6' is like a twig man
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>>17868805
Stop jacking off.
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>>17868805
>How the fuck do I become more dominant/aggressive/alpha/manly?

If a single girl can destroy your self esteem like this, then being dominant will be a long process for you.

If you think cliches make you manly, then you lack the confidence to actually conduct yourself with power.

And if you keep using words like "alpha"... you know...
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I'm a bisexual neither masculine or feminine male that has never been in a fight or gone hunting

So stop believing that's what is the requirements that are needed to be dominant in bed

Just take what is yours, she's giving it to you
Slam her on the bed, hold her wrists above her head harder than needed, bite her neck and talk dirty in her ear

Just watch Dom porn with James deen or that ginger old guy that fucks in turbo mode and do what they do

Visualizing sex while madtubating and thinking about all the things you're gonna do helps
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>>17868821
Yeah, it sucks.

She literally doesn't "want" to have sex with me because I'm not her image of a man. And I would've drop her if she was just being a bitch, but she's right.

There is no excuse for me to be anything less than a dominant man who knows what he wants and most of all, how to please a woman.

Besides physically, what about mindset wise?
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>>17868828
How do I build that confidence?

This is something I've struggled with internally for a while. She just brought it to light.
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>>17868830
Confidence.
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>>17868830
If you want to be dominant, stop focusing on how to please a woman and start focusing on how to please yourself.
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>>17868805

>Guns, trucks, patriotism, values, etc. I'm a Traditionalist Catholic if that helps too.

Heh. Will your Church abandon you when you come out?
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>>17868844

By doing, by failing and by learning. Also, maybe you are not as "manly" or as dominant as you want. Learn to accept that.
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>>17868805
dude, take it from me, this girl is a fucking psycho. leave now while you still have the chance. I'm going to tell you this, she's using you to get off to her own fantasies of being abused and dominated and you're not fulfilling the fantasy enough so she's attacking your person because she wants to be treated that way. why? most likely she grew up in an abusive household and to deal with trauma she began to get off to it as a coping mechanism, which later became more blended with her personality to where she is today.

take it from me man, if you're not good enough for her now, you never will be. I worked on being manly for years and part of what I learned is that it doesn't matter what the fuck you do for some people, if they have a perspective they want to change you, that is going to haunt the relationship literally forever unless by some hand of god they change their ways, which is extremely, extremely unlikely.

leave now bro. I could give you advice on being more manly but honestly in this situation, from what I know, you're fine, she's crazy. get out while things are still fresh.
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>>17868850

That's called being selfish, not dominant.
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>>17868805
>So I never grew up as a guy who would get into fights, I feel like that's important here.
wanted to mention this too, fights have nothing to do with bed. I've gotten in literally over 10 fights growing up, I lost count at this point but some were me just literally beating the shit out of the guy to the point it wasn't even really a fight.

that said, that didn't help my bedroom experience at all. I'm actually attracted to dudes and trans people more, not women. fighting does not correlate at all to sex.
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>>17868863
I prodded her though. She didn't want to tell me. And after she did, she kept telling me it was okay and that she wanted to work on it with me.

>>17868861
>>17868856
>>17868850
>>17868848
Nah I couldn't have sex with a dude. There is no attraction there.

Is this a mindset and literally nothing could change it? Or is it something that is malleable and can be brought out through certain habits/work?
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>>17868887
>Nah I couldn't have sex with a dude. There is no attraction there.

What? Only one guy called you gay.
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>>17868887
>I prodded her though. She didn't want to tell me. And after she did, she kept telling me it was okay and that she wanted to work on it with me.
doesn't matter, she's still crazy. she wasn't being a bitch, but she's still nuts. go ahead and stay with her if you want, but I've had enough experience with women to know that when you get one of those types, you will always be chasing her expectations.
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>>17868887
>>17868898

I was more referring to him being comical. I agree with everyone who said the girl might be crazy. Other than that, you are underweight. You also seem to be playing at being a man. "Rugged" things like what? Do you actually need a truck? I am not even going to get into the gun thing, but suffice to say that it's just a hobby and has very little to do with manliness.
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>>17868805
By not listening to her retarded opinion?
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>>17868865
ok mr. cuck
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>>17868910

Wow, what an original insult. I bet you are as inventive in bed, too.
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>>17868898
Yeah, I was just quoting everyone. That was addressed to him.

>>17868900
Really sucks that this came out like this. I really like this chick but I guess the best thing to do is break it off.

How do I even do it? Just say "This is over, I'm not man enough for you" ?

>>17868907
Well, I was just stating those things since they correlate to the more "traditional" sense of masculinity.

So, essentially, no matter how "manly" I get, this girl will never see me as fulfilled in her eyes?
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>>17868918
>So, essentially, no matter how "manly" I get, this girl will never see me as fulfilled in her eyes?

She is crazy, but you are too. Doing that shit doesn't make you "manly". It makes you desperate, trying to impress others instead of actually having fun.
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>>17868887
>Is this a mindset and literally nothing could change it? Or is it something that is malleable and can be brought out through certain habits/work?
alright if you really want to then I'll help you, but I'm telling you you're going after a dead-end with your goal in achieving manliness.

being a man is about doing what you want, not giving a fuck to an extent, it doesn't mean not caring about anything, but having values that you hold dear even if those values are way above you. it means not bending for anyone else when you think something is wrong. doing shit like bbq'ing, fixing things, etc. are just natural extensions of manliness, but doing those to PURSUE manliness is retarded and nu-male shit, plus when you do those things thinking you're manly, a lot of people can see right through it and see you're putting on an act, which is the least manly thing you can do.

basically you need to find what you value, use that as a compass and head in the direction you feel you need to in your life, and take the hits. you need to be willing to let life beat the shit out of you because it will, but keep going regardless of pain. that is what being a man is about, achieving goals regardless of pain.

that being said, don't do shit for women only to please them, because you'll get caught in that circle and be her bitch. if you want to be a man and things people say go against your convictions, stand up for yourself, say fuck you and move on.

if you want some other advice, check out artofmanliness.com but use that only as supplements to meditate on yourself who you are as a man. don't use that as a holy bible or you'll be just as bad as the nu-males.

good luck.
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>>17868918
>Really sucks that this came out like this. I really like this chick but I guess the best thing to do is break it off.
>How do I even do it? Just say "This is over, I'm not man enough for you" ?

if I were you, I would first settle it in my mind that it's not going to work, then from that being settled, I would decide a way to say it nicely, because women are sensitive and more than likely she might try to manipulate you to come back (women are complex and will do things even when they're not sure why they're doing it). So that being said, I would tell her in a nice way it's not going to work and you wish her the best. Then I would drop all contact because you're both done, and never look back.
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>>17868925
Solid advice.

>>17868938
So there is no way this can come out good? If I have to, I will cut contact completely and be done with it.

But there is no way I can fix myself and continue this relationship? Is it not a possibility to "work on it" like she said?
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>>17868958
>But there is no way I can fix myself and continue this relationship? Is it not a possibility to "work on it" like she said?
>there is no way I can fix myself
That's the whole problem. She told you there's something wrong with you because you weren't doing something 'enough'. When I first read that it sent off a red flag in my mind because when women start wanting you to act a certain way to make the relationship work, that means she doesn't naturally like you for who you are, which means this naturally is not going to work.

You can work on things but you're hurting yourself in the end, and my advice would actually then be counter-productive and hurting your life rather than helping it, because you're bowing down to something that isn't objectively a problem. Now if you were abusive and had a huge temper to where you couldn't control it, that is an objective problem to be worked on. But you not being 'dominant -enough-' is not your problem, that's her problem.

That being said, don't be surprised if she tries to manipulate you to come back, women do that commonly when they think they can change you and then throw everything they can when they see you're leaving. Like I said, decide in your mind whether or not this is worth pursuing. If you decide no, then don't look back and don't bow down to her trying to win you back, that would be the least manly thing you can do.

Decide for yourself if this is worth pursuing, but my advice to you as a man, is if I were you, I would leave it and look for new horizons.
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>>17868909
This is literally the only answer.
You should of said "What do you know about being a man?"

Are you really so insecure that a dumb bitch got you all flusted about the fact she thinks you're not manly? I mean holy shit, does she need any more confirmation? You should of just told her to fuck and find somebody more her speed if you weren't "manly" enough according to her bullshit arbitrary standards. Who the fuck decided what a man is? Some dumb slut?

Fucking hell you are pathetic
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>>17868977
Danke. I'll take your word into consideration.
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>defined his masculinity through his interests

The best advice in my opinion would be to hang around other men you want to be like. They'll rub off on you. I used to be a beta numale because I had a shit father figure. Luckily i joined the high school wrestling team and got so.e good influences.

You're probably too old for that, so go join a gym, or even a boxing gym. Hopefully some old timer will take you under his wing.
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>>17868805
>6'0, 140lbs
Go to the fucking gym, you're a god damn scarecrow. Nobody considers someone that looks like a bunch of gangly limbs to be manly
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