tinder

>>17866844
do you expect wine from olives and milk from a frog? It's tinder

Most girls either

Are only there for validation
Are being messaged by tons of guys so they couldnt give 2 fucks about most dudes
Are vapid and shit at conversation, hence their reason to being on tinder
And are usually looking for super hot dudes in particular, so if youre not built you are fucked.

>>17866861

Got two menages with a couple profile, your argument is invalid

>>17866867
>menages

>Message girl once
>Get positive response, she's intererested
>One to two more casual messages
>Confirm interest
>tell her we should meet up sometime, what's your schedule like
>Plan definite date
>Friday at 8 sounds great, I'll meet you there. What's your number in case something comes up?
>Cool, see you Friday. I have work early, going to bed. Goodnight


It's seriously that easy. And wtf are you talking about? Why would a girl take the lead? You are always the leader. Even when you hold the door open for a date, you guide her with your hand on her back. YOU ALWAYS FUCKING LEAD, PUSSY.

When on a date, you are ALWAYS leading conversations. You ask questions, then ask more questions, make a funny comment, then start a new topic of questions. You are always learning more about her because you want her to think you are interested in getting to know who she really is and what she likes, even if you just want a lay.

This is day 1 shit, bro.

You ought to be glad she's still trying to talk at all nigga, I mean shit. And you never know, some people can have a decent conversation but just a little trouble kicking it off. That's usually me, anyway

>>17866844
Yes they are expected to lead the conversation the whole time

Women are literally all retarded and don't know how to

>>17866844
She's asking how you are how is that not leading or at least contributing to the conversation? What more did you want, some spectacular display of intelligence and/or depth? I wouldn't even expect that sort of thing from a guy.