Should I really, and when?

>Her: 18, looking for platonic relationships with guys

>how long should I realistically wait until I make sexual advances

Doing it wrong.

>>17865857
Being this wrong about women.

>>17865830
She's not retarded, she wants the dick just give it to her

>>17865905
I don't want to limit this to one fuck. I want her to worship me until she's mature enough to marry someone else.

bumping for something real

>>17865926
You are very strange op

To answer the title : no, you shouldn't. Trying to manipulate her won't make you an evil mastermind, tons of guys do that and she'll probably tell her friends how pathetic you were in a few years. Cut your dick off and consider priesthood, you need this son.

>>17866120
Who said anything about evil? I want a union with her to create good. And I don't care what she tells her friends. I don't know 18 year olds.

Manipulation is just what people do, including your mom. It doesn't make her pathetic, it makes her capable of communication.

Cutting of dick is not an option.

>>17866110
This only helps my case, son

>>17866194
Manipulation isn't pathetic. Willing to manipulate a 18yo girl when yourself are 33 is deeply pathetic. Nothing good will come out of this union. I strongly advise you to let it go.

>>17866219
This
But fuck her first OP both her and (You) want it so why not

Nigga, you a creep

>>17865830
The same thing that works for all women works best for younger women, due to inexperience. Just tell her things she's never heard, do things for her no ones done, etc.

Source - I'm 29 and dating an 18 year old qt3.14 asian grill.

>>17866219
Look guy, I'm not confused about the potentially unsettling fact that she was a toddler at the same time I lost my virginity. I will treat her with care, as an adult, and will only be sexual around her, not towards her, for as long as it takes for her to admit to her own attraction. Manipulation isn't really an issue, and if it doesn't happen between us, so be it, she can at least sit for me. I only will her to do what she naturally craves. I didn't force her to match with me on a hookup app.

Perhaps I should rephrase - How long should I hold her at a distance, before finally

I will of course abort this project if any distress arises. I wouldn't have these concerns if the girl in question was in her mid-twenties, as I believe it requires a different type of seduction.

>>17866235
Again, I'm not looking for advice on how to get there. I'm specifically asking for how long I should wait until I do.

Thanks anyway

>>17866259
Why not go for 33 year old girls?

>bottle of wine
i think this will be easier than you think. stop thinking about it and let it happen.

>>17866268
Women my age are a bit tricky, since those who haven't given birth yet usually are on a lookout for an exclusive relationship in which children is an issue. I don't want to waste anyone's time. I don't see myself father a child for another four or five years, at least, and I think it's more healthy if women have children before they hit 36.

Single moms are fun, but less spontaneous, and I don't want to establish a connection with young children, when I can't promise I'll stick around, so I prefer to only see milfs when their children with their fathers.

I prefer women age 24-28. Open to try older women, 38 and older, but have never slept with anyone more than two years older than me.