I dont want to be gay

>>17860003
Conversion therapy

>>17860003
enjoy that prostate stimulation and forget about normies and their normative rules tbqh

>tfw no BBC to compress ur prostate into a vacuum

>>17860053
Would upvote

>>17860067
For real. I feel bad for giving advice, but all I can say is "GET OVRR IT."

My uncle was gay, and he never showed it.. I mean I may have suspected something when he dyed his hair red when he was younger, but maybe he just thought it was cool i thought.. he died of AIDS a couple years ago, and I found out he was after he died, I wouldn't have hated him for having been gay.. I'm more opposed to the sexual act itself and the behavior that comes with most gay men, all feminine.

That said, I guess if he was alive today, and I knew, I'd tell him that way of life can only destroy him mentally, emotionally. Instead it destroyed him physically.

He was great with his family, delivered food n gifts to the home country often.

Hmm.. all I can tell you bro, is that peace of mind has value. Immense value. And you throw it away in a state of vulnerability such as homosexuality. It destabilizes men emotionally, it warps your brain, you begin to literally think like a woman in practice.

For your sake, I would ask you, if I was say, your brother, to depart from that lifestyle with all of your strength. I wont use a religious example as to why it's wrong, most people understand it's bad in that respect. This is purely a man to man thing, for your mental healths sake.

>>17860003
How many cocks have you taken up the shitter anon?

>>17860003
I kinda know how you feel. I could never fall in love with a man or kiss a man but I sometimes fantasize about giving a BJ. Maybe if the world was a perfect place where being gay was as normal as being straight then I could give it a try. I dont really have any advice for you though, other than chin up.

>>17860342

enough to feel awful

Is your problem acceptance or enjoyment?

Honestly, one thing a lot of people don't realize, is that you can perfectly be both a bottom gay and also a man. Being gay is completly different from being a queer faggot, those are the ones that really annoy society imho. If you behave like a proper man, you can get fucked in the ass all you want and nobody will stigmatize you, because there's no way of knowing you're gay without going to bed with your.

So if your parents are open minded as you say, there's absolutly no way they know if you're a top or bottom. Unless you're a full blown fag-queer with nail polish and make up...

>>17860438
Buddy, its only sex. No one knows better than you who you are and what you enjoy. People judge each other all the time on arbitrary shit, let them. Just do your thing with people you like.
Maybe the shame you have is a realisation that sex, esp if your bottoming can be a power play that makes you feel like less of a man. Not so, its fun, social, awkward at times, and you can learn a lot about yourself.
sauce, complete fag, no shame.

what is the reason for your disgust, OP? can you go into more detail on this?
you dont have to talk to your parents about it. you dont have to talk to fucking anyone about it.
"coming out" is a hollywood meme, no-one fucking does it. your sexuality is your business.

>>17860074
this is terrible advice.

"depart from that lifestyle with all of your strength"
now THIS will fucking ruin OPs life more than coming to terms with his sexuality.
let me fucking tell you what "destabilizes men emotionally" and "warps your brain", it's having to live your life behind a facade and suppress who you are, 24/7, 365. this is why gay people take their lives at significantly higher rates than straight people. your post is a strange kind of stupid, in that everything you say applies not to homosexuality, but to the type of advice you are giving. you are also clearly motivated by religious reasons, and should be ignored.

>>17860533
This religious meme is toxic as fuck, but try telling that to the closet cases who continuously spout it.

>>17860533
what you call a sexuality, I call disgusting filth.

>>17860546
you can call the sun the moon for all i care

>>17860546
Why don't you hop off that camel, assume the position and join us.

>>17860533

i feel like i've done something wrong afterwards, not normal

>>17860526

i think they'd assume because i have a feminine frame, not that i like having a feminine frame..

>>17860600
body shot for science?

>>17860003
you probably need therapy, since the immediately emotional reaction is really bad. I don't even know if this is something that can be solved with discussion alone. you might need to take serious steps in your life, guided by someone who is qualified.

you haven't articulated a good reason for hating being gay except that a lot of other gay people are distasteful to you. this is a reason for not preferring to be gay, but not a reason to hate being gay.

>>17860615

no

>>17860622

i just dont think it's what i envisioned or wanted for myself. thinking i'll end up alone.

probably will look at getting back into therapy though

>>17860588
classic case of Internalised Homophobia
it takes time to get rid of that; you'll live a more better life if you try (and succeed) to suppress it (cf. therapy like >>17860622), than living with it.
it stops you to consider homosex as just sex, and that gay male love is possible.

Have you ever had sex with a girl?

I ask because one of my friends was gay as fuck. he went to pride parades, fucked dudes, and was just gay. Years later, he got really drunk one night at the bar and went home with a girl. I'm not kidding, but that experience changed him. That girl fucked him so good that she fucked him straight

>>17860797

tried once in teens. didnt work out that well.

>>17860806

Maybe try again now that you're older? Do you find any girls attractive at all?

>>17860824

not really

>>17860833

Hmm i don't know dude. All I know is my friend fucked that girl. And he only dates girls now

>>17860600
What about the way you talk, dress and move?

If you don't like your frame, go to the gym, 3 months you can start showing some results. I don't mean that you have to look mainly to be gay and hide it, but it's something that some people (even gays) don't realize

>>17860844
well he's bi obviously.

be a fucking map OP, stop relying on others approval for your sense of self worth

and don't be a bitch that takes it up the ass you faggot.

>>17860003
Straight sex is also pretty disgusting when you think about it. You fuck in the hole where babies come from, you squeeze the tits that babies suck, women bleed in their vagina and while you have sex all their food converts into shit.

>>17860003

Stop kicking yourself, you can't change it.

Just live a good life, pay your taxes, don't break the law, and you will be a better son than +50% of all human beings.

Who you like to fuck or get fucked by, is a minor detail

That's really easy to do OP.

All you have to do is think of all the reasons why you think a mans asshole is attractive. And then slowly start associating a vagina as a bigger and better asshole and seeing the qualities you like in the asshole in the vagina. And if you think fucking a guys ass is hot, a girls ass is even better because its bigger. So start wanting a girls ass even more for anal, don't even focus on the vagina at first. Just work on moving to a bigger and hotter ass for you to have anal sex with. Then start weaning yourself onto seeing a vag as a better asshole.
Start fapping to more and more feminine guys, getting close to the female form. Then, once you're starting to see a vagina as more attractive than an asshole, move on to fapping to pictures and videos of girls that have boyish bodies. And then from there start coming up with reasons why a fuller body is more attractive and slowly wean yourself up to girls with a better and better figure.

That is how I went from gay to straight. Vagina is an improved asshole.

Because getting fucked in the ass is unnatural once you stop doing it you won't really remember what its like and you won't miss it. And if you make yourself like vagina enough you'll not care that she doesn't have a dick and you won't miss sucking dicks either.

It's a foolproof plan. You can do it OP. You don't have to be gay. It is something you can change even if you were born that way.
Best of luck.

Maybe start with manly girls.

I started liking light skinned black girls with white features and overtime that has developed into full fledged jungle fever. And I used to be super racist.

My point is that your taste can change, but it will change in phases.

>>17861325

what happens if i switch back later?

>>17861325
How do you adjust for how ridiculously much harder it is to get sex from remotely-attractive women, though. I'm not even gay. I just get tired of how demanding and evasive and difficult women can be. I often wish I were just asexual but I recognize that a desire for affection and companionship is more of a driving factor in the first place.

>>17860003
>Any time I have sex I feel completely disgusted and in shame afterwards, borderline breaking down
This will sound stupid, but stop feeling bad about it. It won't happen all at once, just do your best to tell yourself that it's okay and over time your perception will change. The worst thing you can do is obsess about what you're doing and feel guilty. Just take a breather, relax, and walk yourself through the consequences of having sex: fukken nothing (unless you don't use condoms).

I'm pretty sure you can train yourself to appreciate women over time, you need to start looking at images of women and learn to appreciate the female form. Spend like an hour everyday meditating on women. Start with porn of women you find attractive, maybe they're masculine looking? and branch out into more feminine features as you find what you like. While looking at the porn be sure to use your imagination and imagine the feeling of a woman and what you'd like her to feel like.

It's very difficult to make someone hate something they enjoy, but to make someone like something they don't like you just have to get them used to it and teach them to find some aspect of it that they do like.

tl;dr: everyone can be trained to be bisexual (if they willingly go along with it) 'cuz humans are humans and there's honestly not that big of a difference.

>>17860533
>now THIS will fucking ruin OPs life more than coming to terms with his sexuality.
Implying there is any hope for gays. Face it, you either accept that nature has decided that out of every generation that led up to your existence, you will be the end of your bloodline, or you live in denial, constantly seeking a distraction from this truth, trying to fill the void of your purposeless existence with more cocks and never succeeding until one day you end up with AIDS and a part of you is just thankful that it's all coming to an end soon.

You are the end of the line and should not have the natural desire to mate with the opposite sex.

>>17860546
Is it really that disgusting? It's just nature deciding that they are not worthy of breeding and making it so they won't reproduce.