Skinyfag here.
how long does it take in the gym before women on tinder start sending you messages?
Assuming I'm average spic (don't look like mexican or indian, just brown), but 1.70 manlet.
3 months
1 month before men start slapping you on the ass.
6 months solid training and diet, low bodyfat
You don't need to be "big" these days. Most girls, especially younger ones like the ottermode look best
But, as implied by your OP pic, if you are ugly you might as well not bother
Face > EVERYTHING
>>17848659
>women
what kind of women?
hot ones? probably never
Average and below, probably 4 months.
>>17848668
I'm not ugly, the picture is a meme.
I'm average.
>>17848668
>if you are ugly you might as well not bother
That's terrible advice, he can at least be a butterface.
OP don't listen to the beta fucks who tell you that face is everything. What really makes you attractive is what you do with your looks and how you act. Not the genes you were born with. Get a nice haircut and some nice clothes that scream "I drown in pussy".
>>17848659
it depends. are you eating right? how was your body before hand? are the pictures good?
my point is that there is no timeline. its when you start to have noticeable nice muscles. you could go for a year and still look like shit
>>17848697
You don't say?
>>17848699
Lift for yourself by all means. But falling for the "muscles will get me laid" meme is a classic.
>>17848813
Honestly if he lost the glasses and got a better haircut it'd be ez