25+ : Downhill from here

>>17821771

I'm 31, finishing up my last two semesters of community college for an Associates in Business, going for a Bachelors in Accountancy, have a 22 year old grillfriend who works at Dunkin Donuts, rent a room in a super nice house from a Canadian guy in a super nice part of town.

A year ago I was living with a 30 year old grillfriend of 5 years in a sweet condo; she had a sweet job yet we were always broke, she had a lot of health problems and I was always stressed out to the point where my hair was falling out; I was miserable.

She found out I was cheating on her and kicked me out and I thought it was game over for me but after 6 months, I turned it all around and I've never been happier in my life.

Don't give up, comrades.

I'm 26, and I just noticed my first wrinkles. I think I'm finally starting to understand why people do botox/injections.

>>17822106
I'm 30 and I still look like I could go to highschool.

BABY FACE FOR LIFE LIFE

>25/m
>Graduated in July
>Made a great trip through Peru in the summer
>Return since October
>Been applying for jobs ever since
>Had a couple of job interviews but I either get rejected or there's nothing concrete offers
>Mostly sit inside playing Titanfall 2
>Go running every day
>Write music reviews
>Do parttime work in a restaurant

I'm just fed up with it and I'm so fucking low in energy that I just keep looking for the occasional splurges of motivation

I've been on a graduall uphill since about 22 but it took me until 22 to stop being a fuckbrain.

I turned 26 recently. It hasn't been a good year for me. I'm feeling like I've been backpedaling into the same old problems of mine, like anxiety, depression, being a shut-in, and feeling lonely. Honesty, I'm used to dealing with them on a reoccurring basis by now, but I'm currently at a low point.

I'm a virgin that's never been on a date. I've had more chances than I can count, but there was always some excuse. Depression shit on me during highschool. Too busy working at college. And now too much of an anxious mess to function socially. I'm comfortable alone and I don't regret my past decisions, but it certainly feels like a punch to the gut when I think about how things could have played out differently.

I keep posting in these damn threads. Its the only outlet I have

34 years old. Still live at home. No future prospects. Single for 3 years and given up all hope of ever meeting anyone ever again. Alienated from my successful friends. No savings. No confidence.

Year after year after year I continue to destroy my life. I cannot stay focused on anything. I cannot take who I am or what my life has become (its always been a mess but its gotten to terminal patheticness). To have spent my entire life wanting to be something I can never be; a confident, extrovert and emotionally stable person. Even the retard kids at school have done more with their lives than me. My natural intelligence got me nowhere. I can't take anymore

I just spend all day everyday thinking "how the fuck did this happen?" I am living in an existential hell. And its 10x worse at weekends

27 living with my mom aunt and grandma but I don't feel as bad about it, I guess I'll have sex when my mom dies because I'm not comfortable otherwise

Regret is eating away at my sanity

Inertia is destroying any chance of salvation

25. When I was 21 I turned a total loser that could barely even speak to people to basically being a social butterfly. Everyone started to love me. I went to college and was doing really well. Girls started having crushes on me and everyone thought I was cool and very socially skilled.

Then summer hit this year. I really fell hard for a girl, for the first time in my life, but my best friend kind of sabotaged it because he wanted her worse than me. Ever since, I've just been depressed and I cannot get over it. I don't have the energy to do anything. I can't even pretend to be happy and make everyone laugh and smile anymore. All of my friends are not choosing to help me, they are choosing to avoid me. This hurts. I thought my friends and I were closer but the only one reaching a hand out is that girl I'm still in love with and she's dating my best friend.

Oh yeah, I'm still a virgin. Girls hit on me all the time, but I don't have the confidence to tell myself that I can get at it even though everyone else tells me I can. I am still convinced I'm ugly even though I know deep down I am attractive.

This is by far the worst depression I have had since I was 19. I tried to kill myself at 19. Fuck...

26. I was a waste of space until 24 where I decided to take a massive leap, It worked out great.

Now I'm stuck, I may need to take another leap , but if this leap fails I'll crash and burn.

we'll see.

>>17822681
Damn I thought only I am weird this way...

25 morphed from wow virgin to future husband
31 taking a leap from failed marriage (mostly my fault) to hopefully something better (fixed marriage or otherwise)

>>17822387
33 here. Moved home as took a job locally and am saving for a house.

Are you working?

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25 years old and i still cant even walk up to a girl and say "hi".
I am literally stuck with a problem that normal people deal with when they're teenagers. Kill me.

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26

So i finally got a job i like last year.
But what the fuck do i do now? How do i get from living with me mum and earning a bit above minimum wage to my own house and decent retirement plan? Where's the fucking manual to this game

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27 year old anon.

I'm doing fine in my career, I've some stocks, I've money in the bank.

But wow, I haven't had a proper relationship in so long. I'm watching other people buy houses and have children and it's depressing me. It's something I do want.

>>17821771
I feel like blaming the area I was brought up in has to share the blame for the mess I am today. A shitty London estate (now flooded with yuppies and hipsters) that was a cultural void and a crime hotspot, funnily enough, the surrounding boroughs were also as shitty but had culture, even geek crap. I didn't learn about this till a lot later, so I was practically the only geek for a long time.

>>17823146
If you're earning a bit above minimum wage you aren't going to be getting a house anytime soon. I hate to break it to you but you're going to be living with your mum for quite awhile at that rate actually. Getting an apartment now would just be wasting money on rent. Now the mortgage on some houses is only slightly more than that of a nice apartment. Getting a house is a little more complicated though. You'll need a loan. So you'll need good credit.

Retirement?If you job offers a 401K use it, and contribute the most you can that they will match. If they don't then look into mutual funds. Which is basically what a 401K is but you'll either be handling it more yourself or having a company run it for you.

The manual is on the internet by using google and it's also from the advice of other people. So I guess you're in the right place.

>>17822228
I feeeel dat

>>17822366
My best friend is like you. He's 32, and I still believe in him. You can still turn things around.

Start questioning your comfort zones, and remember to count your gains as soon as you decide to stop focusing on the past.

>>17822486
Seek pro help and introduce some healthy order against that BDD of yours.

If people think you're attractive, and you fight against it, you're sick, buddy. It breaks my heart. I used to absolutely hate my hands for some reason. Wore gloves in the middle of summer because of it. Incidentally, my hands are one of the few physical things I mostly get comliments for.

>>17822387
>34 years old. Still live at home. No future prospects. Single for 3 years and given up all hope of ever meeting anyone ever again. Alienated from my successful friends. No savings. No confidence.
This sounds an awful lot like me.

Well, I just received the news that is now making me sure I'll leave my job next month.
Except I don't have a new job on the line.
I really need to leave because it's going to suck my soul off if I stay more than 6 months, but being jobless is not an alternative. I've a family after all, and my wife is worried already.
Talking about her, I've this project with her that won't require any investment, just time and dedication, but it's only a project and its success is not guaranteed.

I am at a dead end. It's been more than one month since I started looking and despite a couple of interviews and several applications pending, there is nothing to expect yet.

I guess I'll apply for jobs with shit pay until I can bounce back but damn, it hurts.

>>17824549
Cont.

Oh, and a job I was eyeing but knew I was not getting (2 weeks of silence give you the hint) got to some other girl, after checking the LinkedIn profile of the company. Of course, she's 5 years younger than me, has a great portfolio, a website and much more to show.

So not only I am pissed off a kid got the job instead of me, but I'm disappointed in myself for not being as marketable than her.
Turns out I'll have to do a fucking website to show off my work so far (and I did so fucking more than her in 6 months than she did in 2 years) and redo my CV if I want to have a fucking chance. Joy.

I need a beer.

I have passed 23/24 subjects in my degree and I can"t bring myself to finish the last one because I've already failed it 3 times, the professor teaching that subject hates me and it brings me too much mental agony to do it again. How do I justify not wanting to finish my degree to my parents?

test.
Why isn't it let me post. gr

Over 30s asian loser that's balding because of the stress of being condemned to an ugly chink wife who is annoying as fuck but is the only bitch in my life because women don't stay around because they find me unattractive for not having a life worth living. People have commented I am not a person of value.

I just turned 25 last month. Been on this goddamned site for 10 years.

I keep losing the habit of motivation.
I've been in college for the last 6 years, and just barely picked my major(English). Failing two of my three classes this semester because I can't get my shit straight. I procrastinate and just look at porn all night. I've thrown away so much money on camgirls and shit like that. I wish I had my old job back when I took a break from school. Still living with my parents.
Basically, I'm the master of self sabotage.
I've been balding since 19, when next year rolls around I'm shaving my head. For better or worse.
>>17822387
That sounds like where I'm headed.

>>17822486
The human brain is so strange. You're upset about this girl, but you're getting attention from other girls all the time.

Yet you're so obsessed with her that you cant move on. and even saying something as simple as "just talk to one of those girls that hit on you" wont make a difference.

But honestly anon you just have to forget and move on man. Just take a leap. And about the "unsure if im attractive but im pretty sure I am" im on the same boat.

>>17823146
>Where's the fucking manual to this game
It's an mmo. Do you know a single mmo that has a manual?

Didn't think so

>>17825689

World of Warcraft came with a manual

26 dying of cancer. Before this I lost my job and started balding so I'm indifferent. Now waiting for the ride to be finally over.

>>17825706
Pancreas?

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>>17821771
>>17821771
26m anon here

You guys want to know anguish? Nothing like a good ole greentext rise and fall story about yours truly I guess...

>be me
>graduate college with honors at 22
>move to China for big time sales position
>start making the dosh, have a girl, apartment, go on vacations, good times all around
>but suddenly....
>company starts tanking
>fight with girl
>start hanging with the "cool expat crowd"
>start smoking copious amounts of heroin
>break up with girl
>start fucking up at work due to secret drug addiction
>move to hong kong for new job try to clean up act
> find opium dens for even cheaper
>escape country to move back home with family
>go to detox and clean for several months
>start retarded wagecuck jobs in local town
>become more and more miserable
>start having existential crises
>"why can't I get my career back?!"
>turn to drugs again
>waste remaining savings and crash car after using wagecuck money to get out of family house
>back at home
>not going to give up, been applying to "real" job ever since
>new white christian girlfriend


Is it too late for me senpai? I ain't giving in this time....I just want a real job and not be a fuck up

>>17825744
Just stay clean anon.

>>17825752
thank you other anon

I feel that is where i fucked up last time...
I think a lot of us here have that "i am smarter than everyone else" sort of chip on their shoulder (I know I do) and thought "yeah let me just dabble a bit on the weekend"

didn't end well, wondering if I should quit drinking too? haven't touched anything not even cigs in almost a month now but never had a problem?

Was fine with a few glasses of wine with the senpai during turkey day...just hope I am not kidding myself again

>>17821771
>go to college
>get a job
>get a girlfriend
>marry the girl
I did what they said, and it's horrible.
>have a child.
Mate, the first 4 ain't done me much favours, this one will probably be a mistake.

>27
>NEET since late 2013/early 2014 due to severe depression
>finally getting better mentally
>intend on going back to school in January
>will get a job if that falls through
>inheritance but no savings and terrible credit, hoping to start working on that next year
>no friends nearby but hoping to be more outgoing
>5+ year relationship going great, easily the best thing in my life
>share a nice apartment in a neat city

I can honestly say that this is the most optimistic I've ever felt in my life. Maybe that's standard for people who come back from constant suicidal ideation for almost three years, but I'll take it.

>25
>OCD
>cant hold a job
>dropped out of college because of anxiety
>socially retarded

Just thinking about the sheer amount of time and energy required to unfuck my brain is depressing enough.

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I know I'm not 25+ but can you guys still help me out?

I'm 23 and I'm thinking about dropping out of school and also leaving my job as a waiter. I just can't handle school anymore. I'm so fucking behind in my classes that its really sad. I hate my accounting major and I can't really see myself majoring in anything. Like nothing really interests me and it's stressing me out.

I thought about just working in a hospital as a desk monkey. If I get the job I will get paid more and I will get more hrs, so I guess it would be better than working in a restaurant. I'm just scared it will fuck up me up mentally. It seems like a boring job, but I really do need more money, so I guess I kinda need the job.

The problem is that I have no experience working at a desk job. I only have experience working in a restaurant.

The requirements needed aren't too bad, but I'm just scared they won't hire me because I've only worked in food service.

Here is my resume. I know it needs a bit more fixing. Could you guys give me some tips to make it better. Also would you guys hire me if you saw this?

Turning 30 in May. I've been studying for the past 7 years or so, doesn't look like I'm getting my degree. Recently moved back in with my mother, but getting kicked out once I turn 30. Have been working on a business plan and it's looking promising, but I lack the funds to execute it. My parents still support me financially, but only because I am still enrolled at Uni and I have to pay them back eventually. Losing hair like crazy. After my long term relationship ended when I was 24 I haven't really had any contact with women anymore. Tough to keep them interested when you have to tell them that you have no job, no degree, no own apartment, no car. I've kept in touch with my friends, so that's a good thing, but many of them are starting to move away to pursue their careers. I think if my business is a success and I make money by the time I turn 30 most of my problems are solved, so the pressure is on now. Even if my business only generates enough profit so I can afford a 1 room apartment and enough food I will be a happy man, it's not like I'm used to a better standard of living.

>>17825870
Whats your business? Also can you take out a loan from the bank to get your business running?

>>17821771
>25
>kissless virgin
>diagnosed with depression
>drug "addiction"
>no education
>no job
>no friends
>disappointed parents
>no prospect
>short and ugly

I wish I had the courage to kill myself.

>>17821771

72 here. You kids crack me up.

>>17825975
How are the gran-kids?

>>17825982

How the fuck would I know? I don't pay attention to them.

>>17825744
>>17825744
Dude you fucked up
Quit that shit for good, built yourself again and go take the world

Since the thread isn't exploding, I might jump in with some concerns about dating.

>Am 33 in two months time
>Relationship career is kissless until 14 (gf for two weeks)
>virgin until 18 (gf for 11 months)
>gf from age 20-25
>8 months long distance fling + one ONS at 26
>gf from age 26-30, but didn't stop fucking her until just before 32
>fucked eight different women since 31 until now
>use tinder a lot
>have met 6
>fucked 4 (ALL single moms)
>went on date with super cute 24yo one week ago
>besically felt like I've fallen in love

I've been nauseous and nervous ever since the date. Did not expect this, and only thought about looking for a steady gf for the last couple of months, haphazardly. Not reeaally into monogamy, but kiiinda could give it ago with the right person, and I just know I want this person in my life.

My real dilemma is whether a newly single (less than six months) 24yo would prefer if I slowed my horses and kept things casual, so she can be free to live out her youthful lifestyle, or if it's a better credit to her as an attractive girl, if I jump right in and try and rob the rest of the world for the opportunity to be with her

I know the risk of choosing the former, but it'll mean I'm also free to continue building my game with other women. I'm not sure if the timing is right for that latter, but timing has never been my strong suit since my late twenties.

I'm poor as fuck, homeless, live in my studio which has no indoor plumbing, and got sacked before summer. Trying to turn things around with my own business (tutoring people in painting) and starting to paint again, might sell more paintings in coming months, but nothing on the horizon to start handing out promises to someone who probably want something stable, if she chooses to regress from the single's market.

On our one date, she told me she wanted to get to know me, and we made out and embraced, made out, and before she left she asked when she could see me again. She's been away until now.

>>17825859
Don't they have professionals for improving your CV?

>>17825772
>I can honestly say that this is the most optimistic I've ever felt in my life.

I always feel a sense of dread when I get positive, as if the next dip is just a moment away.

Need to escape this shitty wageslave job, I think I'm doing damage to my back. Feel like I'm 40. 27 is not too far off 40 though.

>>17826202
I've tried to schedule an appointment at my schools resume workshop, but I missed the deadline and since this semester is almost over I'm kinda fucked.

Yeah I know I should have done it earlier. Thats why I'm asking you guys.

I turned 33 this year. Got a good computer job in San Francisco, worked my ass off for this promotion but I didn't get it. I'm paranoid that my best friend is having sex with my wife. She is the love of my life. I got her a dozen red roses the other day, but her reaction was too cold. My best friend is generally better than me. Sometimes we play football together, even before my wedding. I feel like everyone is betraying me and I'm fed up with this world.

>>17826167
Don't play it too casual or she'll run off. It isn't one or the other.

>>17826263
Buy one of those hidden cameras and put it in your bedroom

>>17825859
>would you guys hire me if you saw this
>GPA 2.4
>GPA 3.3
>hasn't got much work experience
>doesn't compensate for the lack of work experience with amazing academic results

no, i wouldn't hire you

when i got my first full time job (ever) in a new country, i had obviously no work experience. this was just last year. but what was on my resume was the details on how amazing i did in my academic pursuits.

for my latest school stuff (3-year diploma in singapore for programming) i included a list of all the subjects I got Distinctions for, and a list of all the subjects i got an A for (GPA was 3.9 until loldepression and abusive ex - finished with GPA 3.65), as well as my scholarship, awards like being on the Director's List, any additional courses I got offered for performing so well (leadership course, additional psychology course, etc).

for the school stuff that was before that, i just noted down how many of the subjects i took for the standardised test i got the highest grade for (A+ or A1), and any awards i got while i was in that school (gold medal for some science competition, got in the top 10 results in the world for one of the final exams, top in my country results for a different subject), etc.

and had another section for "skills". translated the stuff i did at school into words that are used in HR - organised, hard-working, strong work ethic, very strong computer skills, methodical, etc. that kind of stuff. just a list of like 5 or so things that look the best.

i would also recommend an "Interests" section (like hobbies. i put shit like cycling, hiking, sailing, and then 1 or 2 slightly shittier hobbies like watching movies or gaming and shit like that).

that make sense? i'm not an expert, but i seem to have done pretty well for myself. maybe u find this helpful.

idk what the fuck you would put if your academic performance was shitty though.

I'm turning 27 this month, and even though I'm not even close to where I figured I'd naturally end up, I guess I'm okay with it?
Aside from being miserable because I thought this guy really liked me, and then he turned around and got a girlfriend out of the blue. I have a decent job, a decent apartment, a car I own outright, and yet I still get shit on in my dating life. I always get told "I'm not looking for anything right now" and then bam, suddenly girlfriend.

I dunno, starting to think I have a shitty personality.

I'm 27, and my life is going nowhere. No self esteem, no relationship, no goals, no dreams, no hope for the future. The days and weeks blur together, there's nothing to differentiate them. Everything is the same continuous cycle of soul-crushing stress, and spirit-crushing boredom. I often feel like I actually died a few years ago but my corpse still gets up and goes to work 5 days a week for some reason. I'm not really living, I just keep existing like a zombie.

I think today is my lowest point. I got 8 hours of sleep for the first time in recent memory. Which is a shame since I was only planning to get 4. I got into work two hours late, which is simply inexcusable. Nobody made a big deal about it, but it was noticed. Any chance I had of ever getting that promotion to team leader is officially gone. The day didn't get any better from there. A pounding headache set in that lasted all day, and everything I started ended in failure. Not one single goddammed thing of value accomplished all day. It's been like this for weeks, just failure after failure. I'm so tired of it.

>>17826344
Yeah I know my grades were shit. I did start off good, but my depression fucked me up too. I think I'm being a little over dramatic because all I really need is a high school diploma and some experience as a desk monkey.

I just want my resume to stand out..idk

>>17826368
Sounds like the problem is with your job. Is it demanding? Save money, then book a holiday and go somewhere and experience something. It sounds cliché i know but I've been in exactly your position before and the bottom line was i was in that rut because i was too lazy to do something different for once.

>>17826413
>Is it demanding?
Yeah, it's software testing. Periods of high-stress, high pressure alternating with long periods of nothing to do. It's tedious, unrewarding work, you'll always be the company scapegoat, and even when you have a good day, that means somebody else has a bad day. I've been trying to get a promotion to escape test for years now, but every time it's within my grasp they snatch it away.
>Save money, then book a holiday and go somewhere and experience something.
I'd love to, but I just don't feel like I can justify it. Everyone around me at work is always taking time off to be with their family, but as a single loser, I have no reason to go anywhere. I used to take off every other friday afternoon to try to unwind a bit, but my coworkers started giving me shit about it, so I put a stop to that.

Anyways, taking a short break from work doesn't help much. I was away for nearly a week over thanksgiving and everything was the same when I got back. Monday morning it was straight back to the stress and anxiety.

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>>17824778
Can anyone help me?

>>17826368
>team leader
Of what? A supermarket job? That's just an arse-kissing position before they even think about moving you to manager.

>>17826510
Can't you pick another professor?
Or maybe take it at another school if you can?

>>17826532
Well, the position in question is really "Agile software development team scrum master" so it's not quite "team leader", but that's the easiest way to describe it.

>>17826466
Sounds like your job is holding you down and is the main driver for this depression. The snatching away part you mentioned is a standard management technique to keep you aiming for something and motivated, so you don't leave the company. You'll probably never really get the job as team leader. And if you do, it'll be just more work and more commitment, something you don't seem too up to in your position right now.

I would recommend restructuring your work/life balance a little more. Your job is your job, but it's not your life. Find something to keep you busy non-work related. Find a hobby, an interest, and fulfil it. Write a book if you have an idea, go to acting class if that's your thing. But i still recommend a holiday, a long one, and don't think about work the moment you finish for the day.

Sorry but that's the only advice i can give you. Unfortunately you're just one of millions of people doing the same thing every week. There's not much to do about the repetition, you just need to find ways to suppress your boredom.

25 year old manchild. Have a decent career making $70k/year, but I'm a complete recluse who stays indoors and browses the Internet and plays video games all day. Don't know what the fuck I'm doing in life and things I should've learned 10 years ago I have no idea how to do. Just going on this ride until it crashes and burns I guess.

How are you guys living at home past 30.

I recently turned 26 and living at home is killing me everyday. Ready to just end it myself.
>Everything is expensive af or so far away that nothing to do and will be stuck in traffic for 3 hours
>huehuehue 3x rent income to apply here
>huehuehue we need like a 20 year residency history, with references and shit
>oh btw, 40$ for app fee :). Some places even require a 200+ deposit + app fee when applying, that's not even the first/last deposit lol.

>>17826617
What do you do for a living?

>>17826637
IT

>>17822046
What made you cheat? Sounds like you had a pretty good deal, other than the GF health problems.

>>17826617
>70k
I'm that 30 years old poorfag making 24k and I'm starting to hate the US.
Engineers, doctors and developers do not have it easy but their salary sure make up for it. That's what I get for buying the trade meme.

>>17823825
To add to what this anon said, I'd make monthly contributions to a wealth-building fund through an online investor like TD AmeriTrade or Betterment. Better than putting all your savings in a bank account where the Jews pay you 0.01%/month.

>>17823159
Have you tried online dating?

>>17825698
I doubt that manual explained all the facets of the game.>>17826466
>Everyone around me at work is always taking time off to be with their family, but as a single loser, I have no reason to go anywhere.
Wrong, because you're single, you can go anywhere your budget allows. You don't have kids to entertain or a wife to compromise with.>>17826617
>25 year old manchild. Have a decent career making $70k/year, but I'm a complete recluse who stays indoors and browses the Internet and plays video games all day.
I hate you. I don't even make half your salary and over 5 years your senior and this is what I do but I have to justify every selfish expense I make and now that my loans are paid off, have to start an IRA, which I conclude I will have to pay the same amount I did in monthly loan payments to catch up to people that started saving right out of college cause they got a good paying job like yours.

What is your job anyway?

27 year old drunk here
I don't know why this thread exists
I'm just here

>>17826538
It is a compuslory subject for the final semester of this degree. Is it worth starting a new degree with the same major instead?

>>17826661

My ex-grillfriend had Stage 4 Endometriosis; it's more or less cancer that grows on the exterior of a womans reproductive organs. It was worst case the surgeon had ever seen/heard about in 15+ years in the field.

Watching her suffer for a year while we want through doctor after doctor until we finally got a recommendation to a surgeon who scraped as much off as possible was brutal.

Then the relief only lasted for about 6 months, then it came back aggressively. I had to plead with the surgeon to give her a full hysterectomy which is what we wanted in the first place but they he didn't want to since of her age (27).

We couldn't have sex for a long period of time and I had to sacrifice so much to take care of her that I ended up subconsciously resenting her. I met a cute girl in college and we hung out a few times and it just forgot about my girlfriend for a bit so I could just relax and enjoy life.

It sounds selfish and I admit it wasn't my finest hour but I needed something to strop me from going off the deep end mentally from stress.

Do I regret it? No because the years of stress had wrekt any romance we had left and I had fallen out of love with her; I would have been living a lie and that wouldn't have been fair to either of us.

>>17821771

26 y/o living the good life, chill job, chill wife, own my own home, feels good man

26, work at a gas station, no relationship experience, small penis, got a limp, no future, no enthusiasm for life, etc

Everybody around me has got it better. Eh.

>>17827435
Cook, exercise, and read

Start within and move outward

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28. Chad thundercock. I screwed up royally In my early 20' with the law. been a tough couple of years. I'm finally above ground now. Tradesman in a niche sector lots of opportunity to grow, decent money. Have small home car motorcycle work truck. Girls 20-35 want my seed because aforementioned + gym/genetics. But knowing the stats and how fucked western women are I've come to terms with being forever alone. I just keep hang arounds til I'm bored or they see no future. Life's what you make of it if you have an average or above iq. I could easily still be a neet gamer or alcoholic druggy but it was time to grow up and be a man. I don't knoe if I'll ever be fully satisfied (no wife/kids/etc) but doing the hobbies I enjoy and smashing pussy when I need the release are better than nothing.

>>17826466
>Everyone around me at work is always taking time off to be with their family, but as a single loser, I have no reason to go anywhere.

Yeah I know that feeling. For the longest while I had like £15k sitting in my account despite my shit pay purely cos I don't/didn't go out.

>>17826635
>only 40$ application fee

Consider yourself lucky

I'm being financially abused. I either get cucked or get kicked out. I used to have dreams and aspirations, but it quickly became understood that it's never going to happen.

At least I still have my mind. I like to make up imaginary scenarios and lives for me. Recently, since it's the holidays I've been more romantic. I'll usually fall asleep pretending to cuddle with my wife in my head and I pretend the warmth from my blanket is her.

It's the only thing that keeps me sane. It's not even pathetic at this point. It's just necessary for my survival. Sure do wish I would just fucking die already. Would be a neato Christmas present.

24, was off the site for two years until tonight. I was the typical NEET back then. I got a job at a shitty fast food place, and my work ethic has vastly improved. I pull the most hours of the crew members and all my managers suggested I be trained for an open manager spot recently. Things still suck with girls, but I think even that is improving. I can hold conversation somewhat now. Still no real friends but I'm a lot happier than I was. I'm really pushing to go to a community college next year. We can make it bros.

>>17826356
Maybe you just haven't found the right person to see you for who you really are? Seems to be my issue. 30, single, recently fired from delivering pizzas. Affinity for learning and a mouth to boot. I hate taking orders from people who aren't willing to get their hands dirty, and I think that's one of my biggest downfalls. I don't think I'm better than them really but I do feel like leadership is shown by example not by barking orders from a lofty perch.

>>17826368
I'd start looking for things that you are passionate about. Find something that brings you back to life and run with it. This world was designed to keep us low and our spirits broken. If we can stand up to the world and fight back with a passion that turns into a blazing inferno the darkness that encroached on our existence has no choice but to retreat into the fringes of our reality. It all starts with figuring out what you love, like, or thoroughly enjoy and then having the courage to run with it.

>>17827205
Did you ever contacted her again?

>>17827744
>Crap you'd hear from people who do confidence seminars and shit

Give me a break dude.

I'm actually really bad at spelling/maths and it's affecting my every day life.

Life is horrible when you have no idea how to spell simple words & how to add

28, I had to drop out of college because of money, my poverty grants went away (born poor). Aspergers, but I did well in school.

Spent the past 7 years jumping from job to job, never making much of anything. Found a job where they did more than treat me like shit. Today got a raise to $11 an hour, most I have ever made in my life.

I fell for the hard work meme, I keep on beating myself up over the fact I am poor, rationalizing it that I am lazy because I am poor.

I dunno where to go from here.

>>17821771

>25
>just graduated with two masters in social sciences, one with high honours
>job interview today, 4th and final round
>all good, except for psych tests I made in round 2
>tests shows I have too little empathy
>negative advice, company does not hire and escorts me out the door
>three other places I fancied did not even grant me an interview

Back to square one.

27 here, is it a good idea to kill myself yet?

>>17821771
>27
>Great job, great coworkers.
>No GF.
>Live at home with dad while I try to save up for new car/place.
>Extreme depression/anxiety.
>Always feel like I fucked someone over or did something wrong.
>Believe I may have done a very good friend wrong.
>Wake up every morning feeling withdrawn and depressed.
>I want to give up so badly but realize that I can't.
>Have a hard time opening up to people.
>Felt moment of peace the other day and prayed to God that all of my pain would come back because I couldn't feel anything else.
>Only happy when I am with friends, as soon as that ends back to my darkness.

26
2 years ago got diagnosed with a very fucked up disease that destroyed me mentally and physically.

I´ve lost my house, had to negotiate loans back with my bank, my career of many years destroyed. Physical pain caused by the disease and insomnia slowly isolated me from my social circle which was quite big, my friends, my girlfriend.

I had to move back to live with my folks after many years. I was a bodybuilder and in a very good shape, now I do fucking nothing and total skeleton-mode because of very fucked up medicine I have to take. Never thought it could happen to me. Never was depressed in my life before this ordeal but I literally cannot get out of bed.

I´ve been institutionalized twice for suicidal/erratic behavior during this time because i´ve been awake for weeks pondering how shit my life has been. It is sad to say that I really don´t know myself, I was always a very stable and reliable person, but one fucked up disease and few meltdowns later only a shadow of myself.

I really don´t think I can never have any kind of normality ever again, i probably will be applying for a mental health basic income which is possible in my country. there is no way I could ever enter again to psychological normality if I don´t get cured by time (highly unlikely, like 3% chance who get diagnosed).

>>17828539

What disease?

>>17827737
I think that's what it is, too. A lot of men are intimidated, I think. It's not just my independent status. The last few guys I dated have also tried to get me to quit playing football, one told me I should do yoga instead. Fuck that.

I'm the same way with the leadership thing, I don't respect "leaders" who won't get their hands dirty. If they're not willing to get down and help out when the company is in need, I see them as a failure. I don't see myself as better than or worse than anyone, I think we're all equals deserving of respect, however, that respect must be earned.

Did you deliver for one of the main three? I used to deliver for one of them.

Just turned 25
> no job
> child support payments
> no social life
> fat
> losing my hair
> schizophrenic
> money running out
> gonna use my last $20 on some rope

Peace

25.

Just moved back in with my mother in May after a particularly vicious break-up from a 4 year long relationship with a live-in boyfriend.

All I want is to find someone that will love me unconditionally, but I feel like no one will ever compare to my previous boyfriend. No one will ever love me as much as he did.

We broke up because I'm an alcoholic.

>>17828560
Also interested.

>>17829484
Getting clean? AA?

>27 kv

I swear I'm going silently mad. Those anons who say you don't need sex or companionship are fucking liars or have dead hearts and genitals.

I don't want to end up like those famous asocial artists who spent their time in whorehouse cry-wanking over a prostitute cos they can't talk to women. But fuck me man, being a late-20s dude with nothing going for him, I don't really see what I can do. I can't even lower my standards cos there is no one to lower it to.

>>17829560
Not even the chubby girls? I know that not even those look at me.

31

My business is falling apart and I tried to hang on to too many employees who were actually getting paid more than I was for the last year because I'm too much of a pussy to lay anybody off. My wife is staying at her mother's and doesn't come see me anymore, just texts I get maybe three or four replies from her on a good day. I can't afford my house payment and I'm out of money. Afraid to answer my phone due to collectors but I have to in the hope it's a customer. It almost never is. I sold nearly everything except the basics I need for the business and my clothes. I've been sleeping on the floor and it's been getting harder to sleep like that because I can't afford the alcohol I was self medicating with for the last year. I hope this passes but it seems hopeless.

>>17829503
My alcoholism actually got worse after we broke up for obvious reasons. I started suffering from different kinds of horrible side effects of alcoholism, like high blood pressure, diarrhea, constant nausea. I've eased up a little with my drinking. After Christmas I want to go to a beach rehab resort.

>28
>started college in 2007
>will finally graduate next year with no student loan debt
>worked at my parents shit business in order to pay for classes
>dad will probably retire next year as his lease will end and the city will bulldoze the place as they are gentrifying the area

I don't know what work I can do after graduation as no one would probably would want someone who took 10 years to graduate.

>27
>Own a house, truck, financially independent, etc
>Decent love life I suppise. Date regularly
I just feel trapped to my job. I never finished uni, but I'm still paying off M loans. I ended up becoming a electrician, and have been a journeyman for 3 years. I desperately want to do something new, but I wouldn't be able to afford my bills if I started in a new field with no degree or experience. Electrical is all I know, and I trapped in it

>>17829896
Sorry for the atrocious spelling. I hate mobile posting.

>>17825772
I'm in that ideation phase right now but I hope I can be truly happy one day. I'm proud of you, anon.

Anyway, on to it.
>24
>major self-esteem issues entire life
>depression throughout high school, early into uni
>graduated with a CS degree almost a year ago
>started work at a big company six months ago
>moved out of mom's house to relocate for job
>work isn't really interesting or challenging, but it's not bad
>keep in touch with friends from home via vidya online, visit when I can

I'm more depressed and miserable than I've ever been since early in high school. The kicker is I don't really know why. I should be happy with what I have, right? It feels like a good chunk of me doesn't think I deserve what I have. I thought I got over my depression, but I think I may have just tunneled so hard on my studies and finding a job and "making it" that I wasn't even paying attention to my feelings. I've never been in a romantic relationship before, but I honestly could see that doing more harm that good until I fix whatever the fuck is wrong with my head.

>just turned 24, yet all my friends/coworkers are 25 or older now

>have had a "career" job for almost a year

>making decent amount of money, have decent amount of money in the bank thanks to saving up in previous years + getting support from my parents

>building credit

>low cost of living

>healthy so far, eat a whole foods plant based diet while cycling 5 miles every day

>see family who loves and supports me at least twice a week

>good benefits from employer

>been single for 6 years now

>haven't got laid since highschool, might as well be a wizard at this point

Truly my only fears right now are being too tired/lazy to pursue my dream of at least making a game or games with people I like, being forever alone, or dying from an accident/sudden freak health incident for whatever reason. Life is pretty good to me right now.

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26
At this point, it's almost the same thing over and over every year. Stuck in Community College (because I started out at age 21) due to working like crazy. Sure, I may have a nice(ish) car, but I still live with my parents in Commie fornia. Credit is good, health as well.

The only hope left for me is this career gig an employer (from a different department) offered me. He told me it wont happen until board approves of it (which would be around next month). I really hope all goes well with it. Tired of working support staff for the past few years and I want a job where I can move up with.

>>17829567
There aren't any. Maybe cause of the ongoing flood of gentrifiers, but's it like average/ugly girls of my age decided to cash in their chips. Everyone else is a 7+/10 hipster/yuppie/middle-class something.

(I'm digressing but has anyone noticed how the middle-class like to bandwagon/steal shit they've never liked because it's authentic? Like geek culture and grime music?)

When is it too late to go back to school in hopes of beginning a (new) career? (Turn 29 next week)

Is it ever too late?

Wagecuck and tired of it.

I want to do something worthwhile in life. I work in a warehouse and people have consistently told me to get out of this place.
>"get out anon"
>"we're miserable here. do you want to be miserable too?"
>"get out while there's still time"
>"if you don't do anything now you'll get complacent and in a few years it'll be too late"

These are all comments numerous co-workers have said to me over the course of a few months.
I didn't care for it at first but it's really starting to eat at me now.

I wouldn't mind going back to school and majoring in something but the idea of going to school and getting a degree means that I'm in school for 4 years. I'll be done at like the age of 34.

Has anyone done this? Any advice?

>>17831072

Ehh, it really depends on the field. In my field (social sciences), it is not uncommon to see 25+ people there. I would not recommend it, though, since most of those older people already had stuff going in their lives and mainly did it out of personal interest.

At your age and when starting fresh, I'd say go for something that guarantees a job. There are plenty of IT traineeships (programming, business intelligence, big data, consultancy) in western countries that guarantee a job at the end of the road. Usually it's 1-2 years of paid internship, which is sweet, since you are getting paid a healthy amount to study and grow. I also imagine that 2 years sounds a lot better than 4 years at your age.

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>>17824811
But Asian women age the best out of all types of women, rarely cheat, rarely ruin your credit, often cook, and sometimes do cute things. You sound kind of ungrateful desu. Also if your wife is overweight or anything, make an agreement where you both decide to get in better shape. And if she's not, then you are *truly* ungrateful.

>>17825706
Congratulations you have certainty in life. Probably. Go live your dreams. Take out loans to fund them if necessary. Also barbiturates from Alphabay are the best suicide method; screw dying in pain. Go use your time somewhere nice off 4chan.

>>17825744
The richest friend I have used to be a penniless suicidal crack addict. Just stay off the drugs, and build, and sell.

>>17825873
Don't do it with loans. Bootstrap it. Or use equity if you know rich enough people. Never use loans against anything that can't be resold.

29.
Part time job.
Not enough money for bills.
Not enough money to eat well.
Badly underweight. Chronic pain. Can't sleep.

Need to be physically healthy to get better job.
Need better job to pay for food and healthcare.

I have no joy left in life. The only motivation I feel is to find a few minutes free of the pain. Even this is a losing battle.

>>17829619

alcoholic here. i was a weekend warrior that would have some beers most nights after work, i would be drinking everclear because it was the cheapest and least fattening. i did this so often i ended up going through withdrawals. i've done this a couple times. these days i'm sober, i can have a few beers too and be okay. do what you can. best of luck to you.

just turned 25 17 days ago.was dreading it and now feel like a piece of shit with no excuse. I have yet to finish my degree. practically zero girlfriend experience. and I'm losing my hair.

>>17830101
are you lonely?

>>17833312
In a way, yes.

I feel like I've missed out in life not having an intimate relationship before. Especially since I didn't try to peruse anything like that in high school or college, where mistakes are considered acceptable. I know everyone says it's not too late, but I still find it near impossible to shake that feeling.

On the other hand, I feel like I don't "deserve" any of the possible happiness romantic relationships can bring, and there is also a part of me that is downright horrified at the though of being truly intimate with someone else, for probably a wide range of reasons.

i'm 29, i'm a cashier. i keep quitting jobs and going nowhere in life. i have dreams but no discipline. I'm considering joining the army, hoping that i will at least not be a complete waste of space forever, and maybe learn to be a more productive human being. i can't keep going like this.

>>17826263
What a story. So, how is your sex life?

>>17831996

Describe your chronic pain. Did you go to the doctor?

>>17829588
>My business is falling apart
I knew that feel. Closing it was the (second) best decision I made this year. Lost 30K, which is a tough pill to swallow, but you bask in the peacefulness immediately after. Taste is bittersweet at the end.
>I tried to hang on to too many employees who were actually getting paid more than I was for the last year because I'm too much of a pussy to lay anybody off
Remind me of my wife with whom I was running the business. Didn't stop me when it was important though and at the end, everyone was fired

For the rest, you need a fresh start. Just find a job, that's what I did and I relaunched my career that way. There are ups and downs but it certainly is worth not being stressful anymore and actually collect money.
Also, dump your wife, even if you have a kid. Mine accepted everything as long as it meant staying and working together, putting loyalty and trust at the top, which is why when her fiery temper flares up, I just accept it. Your bitch does not even support you when she knows her man is down. Not wife-material, not mother-material.
Easier said than done though.

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>applied for job
>interview went good
>has an assessment day
>fuck up one thing
>get call today saying I got rejected because I failed the assessment
I understand why companies do this and it's pretty salty to be complaining about this, but I still feel pretty shit about not getting a job because I messed up one thing.

>>17825859
You don't advertise your GPA unless it's 3.5+ dude

>>17834561
And what was that one thing one the assessment?

34

Spent past 2 days in bed pretty much. I'm desolate most of the time. Nothing will ever get better now. No career, no savings, no passions or purpose, still completely hung up on my ex of 3 years. I'm ugly and my hair is now receding and I'm finally beginning to show my age

I have given up. I'm too cowardly to act out my exit bag fantasy. But I'm done. There is no point in hoping for a better life anymore. The damage was done a long, long time ago. No free will, my fate was sealed from birth

27 here

Got a great career working on big budget Hollywood films. Working on (eventually) completing some scripts and trying to get them purchased. Problem is I get stuck in a rut between every film I work on. The depression I have been battling since late teens always comes back in force and I spend days just lying in bed being unproductive. I should go back to my full dose of SSRI's but I don't like see-sawing up and down and I definitely don't feel like I need them when I'm working full time,

Never had a girlfriend. I'm quite aloof with women, and I actually think I might be what's called a "demisexual". Fallen real hard for a couple of girls in the past and ended up feeling real cut up after being rejected. In general though I don't have a huge desire to be in a relationship, although I feel pangs of loneliness occasionally.

>>17834561

Yeah, it sucks. There just aren't many jobs compared to the number of people who need them, so they're getting 200 applicants for each slot. They're just looking for ways to narrow down the pool; make a single misstep and you're out, because they can afford to be absurdly picky.

>>17834103
Multiple doctors, chiropractors, physical therapists.
Internists say something like "chronic pain disorder". Chiropractors say "spine out of alignment". Physical therapists say "cycle of weakness, compromised posture, muscle spasms/tension, and spinal misalignment".
I'm inclined to agree with physical therapists. But it doesn't matter. My poor people's health insurance doesn't pay for "you're too skinny"

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>>17821771
25, here. Still feel 16-20, though I look like I'm middle-aged. Things are... getting better, I guess? I just called my bank, I got $6660.11. Can I buy a decent used car (preferably an SUV) for around $5000?

>Dropped out of college at 21, moved in with poor dad who has a ton of health problems.
>Went bald at 21, hair thinning badly since I was 18. Since then, look like a 40 year old man. Doesn't help that God decided to make me nearsighted and give me a pedo mustache so dark you can see it even when I shave. Always wanted to be the guy with an amazing sex life, that ain't gonna happen, now!!!
>Bounced between PT jobs, going between unemployment and some shit job, have had truoble because my diagnosed Autism makes me slow. I thought people who pointed it out were being asshole, but it turns out it rules my life.
>Never had enough money for apartment or my own car.
>No health insurance
>$17,000 in student loan debt
>Almost given up on dreams of being an artist
>Almost given up on the reality that I can be a real adult.

On the upside, I have been working an awesome security guard job since May, full time, $10 an hour, less than ten minutes from where I live. Shitty health plan, but, hey, it's low stress, for the most part.

>be 25
>living with parents
>no gf...ever
>have a job but do the same work/home/sleep everyday
>get super unmotivated with everything
>get fired
>have quarter life crisis right on time
>move to a new city, new job, own apartment
>shit is getting better, still no gf though
>go back to work/home/sleep routine, this time alone

well... i tried.

>>17834602
I'd say over 3.0 for just out of school, but after the first job anything under 3.5 is kinda silly to mention.

I'm 30, and a complete social retard. I'm not even ugly, just retarded.
I was lucky I got a well paid job recently, after having cancer and then becoming a shut in... wish me good luck people, please.

>>17835070
Seems like things will improve soon, Anon, don't give up.

>>17821771
These threads are not going to make you feel better. They are not going to motivate you to improve. This whole website is antithetical to the entire objective.
Stop coming to 4chan. Even if it's just for a while. I'm serious.
"But it's just a website"
You are communicating with other people on this website. Other upset people. If someone phoned you every day for several hours at a time and you both spoke about how upset you were, it would make it worse. It's exactly the same thing.
Make a friend. Meet their friends. Meet their friends' friends. Try, for the love of god, to be more extrovert. "Being an introvert" is a self-inflicted weakness and limiter on your potential. If you have trouble meeting people, go to a club or society that does what you like. Play MtG? Go to FNM a few times. Meet people. Talk to their friends. Got a job? Try and become more approachable or go to after-work functions. As long as you're not a complete retard, people are pretty socially forgiving.
Please, just stop coming here and making it worse. You are damaging yourselves.

>>17835838
I'm well aware of how shit 4chan is but it's literally the only place besides work where I talk to people. Without it, I'd be spending my days off in silence playing vidya for hours on end.

>>17826241
Just do a CV with Canva

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27 years old here.

Fiance split with me when I was mentally at my lowest.

I struggled but recovered, moved into my own place and started to heal only for my ex to move right up the street from me and then reveal - unbidden - that he had a new boyfriend.

New boyfriend is similar to me in a lot of bizarre ways and it feels like I've been replaced. I moved again to get further from my ex but I can't shake the feeling of just being a reject.

Shit, I feel like I can't even enjoy or like the same things my ex's new beau enjoys.

My family is fucking useless too - all degenerate drug addicts or 'God cures all' types that I can't relate to at all. My aunt actively sabotaged me going to school at one point and I moved across the country to get away from them.

Starting to think my new room mate has a crush on me and I keep rebuffing it because I'm gay. Even if I wasn't, she wouldn't be the type of girl I'm attracted to.

Can't seem to break out of menial jobs, can't afford to go back to school.

Got severe alcohol poisoning just a few weeks ago - hope it happens again and actually takes me out.

A few days ago, I turned 30 (male, European) and until now I have had a pretty calm life and no real problems. I lived with my parents until I was 26 and I really had no other obligations in life than to go to university.... So all in all my two main hobbies in my twenties were going out with friends for drinking and travelling from time to time. This is also an explanation why I was still a virgin when I moved out for the first time.

So why did I move out? Actually I had become tired of my lifestyle and studying and so I chose to take a break and go to Latin America for half a year, where I worked as a volunteer. During these 6 months, I also had my first GF ever.

After I had come back to my country, I graduated from university at the age of 28, moved out from my parents' home (that time for good) and then I applied for many different jobs, but I stayed unemployed for 9 months.

So when I finally realized that I would not be able to find a job in Europe I could actually make a living with I decided to go abroad again, this time to Eastern Asia.

I have been working here for a year now, but my employer does not want to extend my contract and so I will be unemployed in two months. However, usually I would say, no problem, one year in Asia is enough anyway, but I have been with a very very cute girl for half a year now and I feel I would be an idiot if I just gave up and returned to my country instead of trying to find another job here, which will not be too easy as there are not so many other job opportunities for me here.

However, actually I would understand if you called me a complete loser after reading my biography, but on the other hand I think it's pretty amazing that I have managed to live in 4 different countries on 3 different continents in such a short time. I think it's also worth mentioning that I have travelled to about 20 countries during my lifetime and that I speak 5 languages (I am fluent in 3 and quite advanced in 2 other languages).

Continuation:

I also have to say that I do not feel unhappy with my life in spite of the difficult situation in which I am. I have become a very active and adventurous person and I also have an amazing GF which makes my life awsome every day, I may not (yet) be really wealthy but I still have plenty of time ahead of me and until now I have always found a way to get along with my money.

Somehow, I have just accepted that I will never have a "normal" life in which I will work 40 hours per week, have a small house with a garden, three children, a dog, a big car and retire in my mid-sixties.

Maybe I will have to change my job many times in my life, see many different places and become an artist of life, never in a "safe" position but always creative and ambitious enough to get the best out of every situation I may have to face in the future.

I am not sure if this fate is really so much worse than having a boring 40 hours office job for 40 years and never enough time to make experiences and explore the interesting sides of life.

>>17834702
Still hing up on my gf from a year ago...does it get better or do you just fuck other women with a whole in your chest like I do?

>>17837288
Go back to Europe and find a white girl!

25, hs dropout, 'nough said

>>17837513
No, you never know if you're truly over her because you haven't had a date since you broke up with her years ago.

How the fuck do you get a career at 25+?

It seems like I missed the initial graduate schemes path and I have to work my way up from the bottom....I don't even know where the bottom is.

Even if I find the bottom, it seems like the only way to move up is to have an outgoing personality (and looks) and doing the trinity of drinking, clubbing and fucking, all of which I lack and have no experience of. (Every night I come home from my wageslave supermarket job, the yuppies are always in pubs and clubs. How they get drunk every night and still do financial work the next day, I don't know.)

It seems like that the only career paths that are based on merit and not merit+sociabilty are the IT and engineering paths.

>>17838020

>It seems like that the only career paths that are based on merit and not merit+sociabilty are the IT and engineering paths.

Yep. Don't forget academics, though. It would surprise you how many jobs require some form of sociability.

Would you consider a paid internship in IT? There are a lot of those in western countries, even traineeships that do not require degrees (just have a nack for technical stuff and willing to learn), and almost all of them offer a guaranteed job at a corp upon completion.

>>17835838
>Make a friend. Meet their friends. Meet their friends' friends.
I really am trying. My lifestyle is basically school, work, sleep and I'm trying to break that routine for my own mental health. But all of the college clubs are based around stuff like religion or race, which wouldn't interest me even if there was one that applied to me. Thought I found something on meetup, but the group has been dead for a year apparently.

So I'm sort of stuck in the mud trying to figure out how to proceed.

>>17837513

It gets worse when you see how amazing her life is now compared to my sorry existence. I haven't had sex since the day she pulled her pants up and left.

I'll be dead by xmas srs

>>17838124
Dude, you need to reframe your view to exclude her and think about yourself. Smell the roses. She isn't everything. I've been in your position before. Life gets easier if you want it to

>>17838020
>It seems like that the only career paths that are based on merit and not merit+sociabilty are the IT and engineering paths.
I don't think that's necessarily true. IT has a very militant culture. I'd you're going to grey any significant promotions, you're going to have to polish the right boots.

>>17838167

no it doesn't. I was miserable before she entered my life and i'm miserable since she left. She brightened my life for a while and made me feel worthwhile. I've always been a loser piece of shit and always will be. She was just a fluke, an anomaly of hope in my otherwise useless existence

>>17826635
You just listed the reasons why someone past 30 would live at home

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hello people of this thread.
I'm 25 and for the last year basically I've spent all day in my room doing uni assignments and trying to work on a potential career as graphic artist. I have a mental barrier or sth however and I can't bring myself to finish anything I'm proud of; even forcing myself to work on drawing these days consumes immense amounts of energy. i feel like I'm stuck and I don't know what to do.
My social circle has shrunk to like 3 to 4 people in this city. I'm also a foreveralone virgin. I don't know what to do with my life.
I tried online dating but hardly any potentially interesting girl liked me or wrote back. I feel so stuck in my own 4 walls I even have nightmares about it.
I always dreamed to pursue a creative career and always thought I had the skills to pull it off. But now I'm here and I'm super lost.
I really want to meet new people, explore the city, go to parties, date girls. I just don't know how to do it

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Hi 25+ anons
23 here

I got a job I can have till I retire with annual raises, life insurance, health benefits- shit you read about in magazines. it's not that hard, I sit on my ass most days.

I'm scared that I'll become too comfortable with this and miss out on the world. Or that if I fuck this up some how, I won't know how to go back to neet life. No high school diploma or education beyond Grade 12.

What should I do?
Am I ok for 23 moving into a stapled life? Or should I save up cash and fuck shit up

I'm going to start studying for the CCNA.

Tired of not knowing anything about IT with my wasted BS while I'm busy fixing people's shit around the neighborhood all the time.

Anyone ever started in IT late?

When I was a teen I had this girl who liked to lay against me before class like she was my girlfriend and we kissed sometimes, I was like fifteen or sixteen and we were both in Emotionally Handicapped class. Well one day the bell rang for class and she wouldn't get off me. I roughly pushed her off to get up and she started crying and then things were not the same after that. She talked to me and sat by me but she was no longer affectionate.

10+ years later I'm still terrified of making a mistake like that and haven't been in a relationship since.

>>17838393
This is exactly how I feel about my ex.

>>17838651
I started in IT 2 years ago. I don't like it. The job I got puts next to none of my knowledge to use, and I have to interact with "customers" every day. Certs are a money pit. It took me a whole year to find this job after tech school. Maybe you'll have better luck. I have CompTIA certs. If you're going for CCNA, maybe you'll have better luck.

>>17838805
I'm going straight for CCNA and maybe Server+ or Security+. I just want to work with databases.

A+ sounds like a joke if have basically anything else. Seems like a waste of money and time if you ever plan on getting the CCNA anyway.

>>17838839
Actually I take some of that back.

It would help with automated HR screenings if that's what you're up against.

>>17838839
Some serious jobs actually require the CompTIA certs. I believe the federal government does. Don't ask me why. While I learned more than I could possibly imagine about computers by earning the certs. They haven't translated into a salary I could support a family on…let alone life by myself on.

>>17838860
And who isn't up against that shit? Only the ones that know how to network.

>>17838917
Badly worded. What I meant by that was whether the HR person knows what A+ actually is vs higher certs or it's just the list of things the person """needs""".

Is it worth getting professional help again if I already tried years ago? I've been to the hospital and lots of different therapists but nothing was going anywhere. I don't know if I should bother again. I don't want to spend money again and it will be hard to balance treatment with work again. I'm stuck at a crossroads between self-improvement (which goes nowhere) and rolling the dice with our shit mental health system.

MD/PhD-student. 26 yo. Drive ambulances on the weekend. Studying and work is fucking killing me. Been depressed for years. My gf wants kids. I don't. She's gonna kick me out when she finally realizes I don't want kids like, ever. Won't have anywhere to live. I have $10k saved, though it's impossible to find anywhere to live in my city, there are no places to rent and buying an apartment starts at $300k.

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>26
>no friends
>turmoil at work due to lack of leadership
>kissless dateless virgin
>declining health
>no sense of achievement despite degree, career, owning a home, not having tons of debt aside from mortgage, etc

>>17822486
It will be OK anon

>>17835838
tbqh I only use 4chan because my opinions aren't palatable enough for Reddit, I got such negative karma I am not even allowed to post there but I said fuck these people and decided not to make a second account.

>>17831374
>>17825752
>>17826014
that actually really helped me out....

might even get an interview next week from the looks of it at a major medical firm, shit just might work out as long as I don't fuck it up myself

>>17839907
Godspeed, lad.

>32
>boner problems, impotence
>online dating is a hysterical grab bag of desperation, second-guessing, spontaneous make outs and heartbreaks
>make 100k annual
>no friends, drink alone on the weekends
>good family structure
>online on 4chan on a friday, take of that what you will

I'm turning 28 next month. I haven't done anything with my life. I have a shitty job and live with my parents because my ex left me while we were living together and I've been too broke to find my own place (kinda expensive where I live, but that's no excuse.)

I don't know what I should be aiming for. I just want my own place where I can't be judged by my family and me and my 2 rabbits can live in peace. I don't want roommates because living alone is chill as hell when I did it for a while, but I know I could never afford it, even at a low-income place.

I've been single for a couple years and I want to start dating again, but I'm such a mess that I feel like I don't deserve it. Also I don't want to drag another poor soul into the mud with me. Although I'm better than I was when I was with my ex, I've still got emotional scars that he left that haven't healed yet and I'm scared the past will resurface if I get another boyfriend.

I've even had guys interested in me but I keep turning them down because I don't want to be a burden on anyone. Who wants to date someone in their late 20's still living at home with no goals in life?

I don't know. Maybe I just need to pick a random career that brings me some tiny amount of joy and work towards it. But nothing feels worth working towards. Nothing out there brings me joy, not enough to make me focus everything I have on it anyway.

Ah...I know what I have to do. I just have to get up off my ass and do something with my life. Motivation has just been hard to come by nowadays. I'm lucky I'm fucking Asian and it doesn't look like I'm as old as I am so I can get away with acting like I don't know wtf I'm doing for a little while longer. But I should've known by the time I hit 18..

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>>17822387
>I keep posting in these damn threads.
Same here, I can't leave. 26 now and I just can't handle my life. I tried to turn it around recently, got a gym membership, went to the doc's and got on some antidepressants, tried talking to people more and even asked a girl out. The week after signing up they had a massive sale on memberships, the antidepressants have only helped keep suicidal thoughts at bay, every time I chat I'm reminded of how awkward I am, and the girl who I thought liked me turned me down. Nothing ever works out for me.

>>17838369
>polish the right boots in IT
I don't mind that persay, (I could also do that at my wageslave job but that's a lot of dick sucking for a £2 pay rise), I mean, I don't know what polishing the right boots entails but if it's like a city-type career, that's a lot of pubbing, clubbing, drinking and fucking, basically stuff I've never done.

>>17838091
>Would you consider a paid internship in IT?
At this point I would consider anything (that doesn't require me to be a social butterfly).

27
Barely managed to graduate two years ago because of depression and social anxiety (psychiatrist diagnosed).
Since done fuck all because I've not been non-suicidal long enough to pursue employment.
I'm a shut-in.
Was working on a creative writing thing volunteering online but basically got laid off cos new boss hated me (said "your work is exquisite" when giving me the boot, so it wasn't quality that was the issue).
Have no purpose or direction. Younger sibling has a family and a house, I can't even afford rent.
Mooch off my partner, I get trickle of money from my parents which goes to therapy sessions.
Idk what to do anymore. It's coming up Christmas and honestly I just wish I were dead.

>>17838805
>>17838839
>>17838917
>>17838931
Have any of you tried coding? To be entirely honest if it is something you are even halfway proficient at I would recommend that over traditional IT in a heartbeat.

Pay is generally way better for what is usually less stressful work/less overall hours, if salaried.

Also yeah, A+ is pretty much only to get you past the resume screening applications/HR and get your resume into the hands of someone that understands technical stuff.

>>17840675
Traditional IT being operations/run. I suppose I should have just typed that.instead.

I was suicidal at 18, deeply depressed, on several meds, no friends, no job, couldn't handle school, etc.
At 28, I'm quite happy, skinnier, prettier, with a bf, getting along with my family, and finally in control of my life. I did lost my job recently, but I'm already trying to get a new one and things look hopeful.
When I look back a lot of the time, I actually think it's youth that sucks.

>>17827123
it's one fucking subject dude just man the fuck up

>>17839947
Have you tried reconnecting with your roots in Asia? It's not too late to teach English in your country of origin and find a nice male of similar origin there to marry.

Who else is /balding/ here?
My hair used to be my favorite feature back in high school/university, but now it's slowly disappearing.
26 yo

>>17841459

34 here

Temples are receding more and more, though currently still only at Norwood II

I always thought I'd keep my hair as I have barely any facial or body hair so figured I wasn't prone to balding like lots of testosterone filled hairy guys. I was wrong. My dad and uncle both went bald so looks like I'll end up the same way

Just another reason to kill myself prematurely tbph

>>17841459
>>17841522
just get on fin guise, sexual sides are a meme.

I don't belong here but.. I'm 23 and suffering from a lot of the depression/ocd/schizo problems all of you are suffering with.
>spent 2 years living in a friends house in California living off savings
>spend everyday sitting inside aside from the occasional walk to the beach/train ride every few months..
>can't work up the courage to find myself an apartment/buy a vehicle
>have around 4-6k in savings still and want to use it wisely..
>had 15k but spent more than half of it in two years just on food/transportation/bills..
>I want to go out and live .. have a normal life
>overly attached to gf spend every waking hour with her
>I'm always procrastinating and not getting good at anything

just want some advice that you would give yourselves if you could change your lives.. I need some positive words.. living this way fucking sucks.

>feel comfortable being alone
>not interested in a relationship at all
>all around me friends are getting married, having children or finding girlfriends/boyfriends
Why do I still feel so pressured to find someone even if I don't feel the need for a relationship? It makes me feel like a failure, like I'm doing something wrong because I feel ok by myself.

>>17841544
Live life, you can talk and say you're going to do things for years but it really takes a lot of courage and people see you differently when you take action and do things. Don't be one of those people who just talks about what they wished they would have done/wish they could do or even worse, what they are going to do and then not follow through.

>>17822046

dude, i have the same idea. I'm a 27 years old with a degree in french litterature and the jobs i can get are shit. i've asked /biz/ what do they think about starting a finance degree but they seem to be pretty negative about the chances of a 31 years old graduate with little experience on the field. What do you think about that?

>>17821771

I'm posting this here because it seems it gois with the flow of thought

I know you have this thread every fucking day, but i beg you to help me. I'm 27 years old neet with a shitty bachelors degree in literature. I've been thinking starting over again and back to college. Is finance a good major? What habilities do i need to succed in this world? How is your life as a financial analyst? Is the income good?
The anwers i've been listening around is that it is already too late for me to enter this world because i'll be competing with kids with more experience than me.

I just want to have enough money to afford a decent house, a thicc wife, some kids and give some decent old days for my parents.
What is your advice? I need MONEY, a pathway that leads me to making enoug money to pay for everythng i need, nothing fancy.
Please guys, someone tell me what to do from now.
Sorry for shit english.

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30 year old loser here. I haven't done much worth mentioning for the last 10 years. Held some short-term jobs, dicked around in university a bit but never graduated. Now I'm enrolled in school again but this time to learn how to be an electrician.

>>17843075

and what is your target salary

> parents were psychotic drug addicts, childhood was hell
> work hard to get out, get accepted to university at 17 on scholarship
> develop crohn's disease, hospitalized so often that I have to leave college two years in
> manage to start a home business doign landscaping and get back on my feet, pay off my medical bills
> get vocational training and start a good job
> industry collapses a few years later
> try going back to school
> get into a car accident, hit by a semi skidding out of control during a snow storm
> spend the next few years of my life recovering and learning how to do basic things like walk again
> at this point, most employers won't even consider me due to my medical history
> work part-time temp jobs and scrape by
> still harassed regularly by my junkie parents
> Oh, and I have severe, almost debilitating OCD that gets worse as I age

I've learned a lot of coping skills for dealing with pain and depression over the years, but it is still hard, feeling like I am never moving forward and always stressed out about losing everything and possibly being homeless.

The worst part is that when I had decent jobs I always did well. I made lots of friends, got awards, broke records, made employee of the year, all that shit. I just worked really hard and long hours, tried to be good to people. All of it counts for nothing, now.

Mostly, I am lonely as fuck.

My doctor and therapist and recommended I get a dog, but it seems laughable. How could I force a dog to live in a tiny apartment and a situation as unstable as mine? It wouldn't be fair to the dog.

>>17843094

Oh, and I'm 35, btw

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>>17843094

it seems the only alternative for us is to have some sort of business and being fucking good at it to manage to survive. I thought Trump was going to make everything better for us all.

>>17841445
I was born in the US and I actually don't really know my parents' language. Yeah yeah, I know. I just never got around to it, to be honest. I don't have much of an excuse other than the fact that I never had use for it.

Also I'm a bit self-hating because of how close-minded and sexist the culture can be......I'm aware that's a problem too, haha. But either way, I don't see myself happy over there.

>>17843109

nice b8 m8

>>17822165
My nigga, 31 here and highschool girls are still mirin.

>>17840351
You and I share the same fate.

>>17842936

>I just want to have enough money to afford a decent house, a thicc wife

Thats the dream right there. Thats the dream. Your own pad and some big booty to tap every night

I have those dreams too. Never gonna happen though. Good luck on your quest for a better life. At least you have a degree, even if it is in lit. Don't disregard that, many of us have no degree at all and its a massive regret and a millstone for life

>>17835838
>Make a friend
???
Besides work no one is willing to talk to me, or even look at me.

I'm here because there is no where else to go.

Question: If you are a 25 year old guy it's fair to date an 18 year old girl (legal adult), no matter what people will say, right?

>>17844768
only if you are dating to see if she would make a suitable mother, and if so, impregnate her

>>17844768
Why would you though? Women are still dumb children even at 25, what could you possibly get out of that relationship?

>>17844784
I'm not insterested in most women. A rare exception is this one 18 year old girl that has a lot in common with me and seems to like me.

>>17844768
>>17844771
>>17844784
>>17844784
>>17844794

And the thread derails.

>>17844819
I never understood what these threads are for tbqh.

>>17844824
Venting purposes really but more for the fact that almost every other thread is written by some kid who hasn't been laid yet despite it being the wrong part of their issues they concentrate on. AND they have the bonus of being in their late teens to mid-20s to make mistakes, absolutely retarded mistakes and catch no flak.

In your late 20s to 30+ you do not have that social immunity and in addition to gaining responsibilities.

I've lived my life like a heathen. Was very privelaged and laid and fucked it up Time to bite the bullet and cop out eternally to save my family the pain of being my guardian for life

>>17842936
You could also consider Library Science then at least you are getting a masters, its a shitty masters but yeah. You should find out if you like sales before getting into Finance if you can get a basic job as either a car sales or jewelry sales or at least some form of retail sales like selling beds, you will better know if you like finance.

They say its mostly numbers but I got turned off by Finance when I found out for most people its cold call half the day and try to get clients and then actually do financial work the rest.

Right now I have a degree in business administration and library science and now I ruined my life and sort of just want to do either law or graphic design so I can be independent and not need to worry about having my own job but can go freelance if I want too.

I know I am an asshole for suggesting librarian lol but I thought with a lit degree it would be way more in demand then a BBA like I have.

32 still a virgin. things have gotten worse and im dreading the absolute nightmare that awaits me.

>>17846384

hore a high tier hooker.

I'm 24 and I'm starting to feel attracted by a 15 yo girl. Not a sexual thing, and I know it's not actionable. How do I avoid my feelings going further?

I could be 26.5 with a master's in cyber security if everything goes perfect. No relevant work experience. Does that sound like a worthy goal?

>>17846507
I would probably get experience over a masters in that case.

Most companies would need to hire you in at an entry level anyway assuming you plan to work in standard IT. If you are planning to work in research for a cybersecurity firm (Symantec, etc) then I would finish the degree.

>>17846492

Think about jail.

>>17846538
Good point. What else?

>>17846540

Think that she isn't emotionally mature and that you would be abusing this situation since you are older and you have a lot more experience. You would be taking advantage of that and harming her because you would be interfering with her mental developpement. If this doesen't make you want to vomit, i advice to see a therapist.

>>17846526
My goal is to make $100k a year and I think I have a better chance with a master's. Is that realistic?

>>17846607

everything is going to suck when you hit 40 and you lose your job

>>17846625
I plan to transition to a new job (teaching would be my goal) after I get to that point. I can live on poverty level and save everything else.

>>17846662

well.. areyou planning living your old days with your life time savings?

>>17822366

Anon, I'm turning 26 christmas week and this post exactly describes my situation. Good luck. I wish I had suggestions but I find it hard to stay motivated for extended periods or find sustained happiness doing anything.

>>17846691
I don't know. Life expectancy could increase due to technology. I plan to work until I'm too sick to work. I could get sick and not die for 20 years or 3 years.

25 year old here. I'm schizophrenic and on SSI. I've been lazy the last couple of years. I've only had about 3 or 4 years schooling and work.
Is this irrecoverable?

>>17841459
Went bald at 20, started shaving my head. 26 now. You learn to live with the fact that people are going to hate your, avoid you, or make fun of you because of it. I still care about it, but that's because I'm an emotional cunt. Don't be like me.

>>17846721

me too. but old people often complain about not having enough phisical energy to keep working, or they start having pain or dificulties to move. This scares me a lot.

>>17838948
Holy shit. MD/PhD programs were for the absolute stars among premeds, even at top universities. Anyway-- just rent a room or something. I don't want kids ever either. I had a gf who was ok with that for 3 years but then she got depressed about life in general and broke up with me and became a total shut-in. Idk.

>>17839947
>I've even had guys interested in me but I keep turning them down because I don't want to be a burden on anyone. Who wants to date someone in their late 20's still living at home with no goals in life?
They did, obviously, or they wouldn't have asked. Being rejected probably hurt them at least as much as giving up on it hurt you. Idk. What city are you in? What industries are big there?

>>17829667
Anon, take over the business if at all possible. The area is being gentrified? Could be golden in a couple of years. I had the opportunity to take over a family business but fucked it up because depression. Now I'm trying to start the same thing all over again and it's fucking impossible to get anywhere.

>>17843100
Hey anon. I never do this but is there some way to get in contact with you?

>>17837288

How did you find a job in Asia as European?
What is it and does it pay well?

>>17838948
Wow, are you me? Same situation exactly including the age except I have $15k saved up. After we broke up I moved in with relatives for a few weeks until I managed to find a good place to rent.

So heres my case
>26 male
>Polish
>Failed uni twice, 2nd time was a week ago
>Not neet but living with parents and have a borderline shitty job as phone tech support at local ISP company. My home town population is 35 000 people, literal shithole with nothing to do, no jobs, when I got my job three years ago I considered myself lucky, but now I hate it more and more.
>Internet and vidya addiction, which is supposed to feel the void of loneliness since all my friends moved to Warsaw (capital city 120km awat) and work towards a better life, al of them graduated and they already are getting promotions at work and shit. Obviously we have little to no contact, I don't think they consider me a friend anymore.
>Only talk to people at work (and parents at home, but I try to avoid it since we argue about how I'm a nolife looser 90% of the time), no other human contacts whatsoever.
>Parents wont take rent from me no matter what, makes me feel like shit, I do some shopping whenever they ask me for my own money but that's it
>Job pays 2000pln/month which for a small town is not terrible but still it's barely above minimum wage and in big cities such money is laughable. Have 23000pln is savings, which is around 5,5k$, don't spend cash for anything other then PC parts and school tuition fees, I don't go out drinking, buy clothes, basically as low mainteance as you can imagine for a sperg who spends all of his free time in front of PC screen
>Every day I can feel how mine social skills that used to be decent are fading away
>Entertained idea of joining army but Polish army is shit and my eyesight is straight up terrible, would have to get lasik to even be considered.
>185cm, 95kg, so overweight, maybe not obese but I have a big belly
>No energy, no guidance I don't have any idea what to become in life.
>Constant anxiety and slight deppresion, not suicidal but It's a time bomb at this point

I know some have it worse than me but fuck man, I don't think I'll ever get better.

Does anyone else really fucking hate how they look?
I am short skinny dude with plain features but no matter how much money and effort I put into my looks I still look the fucking same.
Shitty hair which will start to fall out in a year or two and no clothes fit me properly because I am a step above a midget.

Seriously fuck genetics, why should I bother when it is pissing in the wind.

>>17848314
Dude. Contact your old friends. As long as you bring a good vibe and a smile, you're good. They know you from before so as long you don't make it weird it won't be.

Tell them you wanna get out of town because it's boring and go visit. It will make you realise their day to day-life is not the big party you'd made it out to be and it's an opportunity to reconnect and gain some sort of mini momentum for you. Godspeed brother.

>>17844768
If you are both consenting adults than who the fuck cares what anyone else thinks?

>>17846492
>>17846538
Jail is nothing in comparison to the aftermath, in fact you are better off staying in Jail.
Being a sex offender seems like the worse shit ever, you have a label for the rest of your life that will prevent you from functioning in society.
Very few people will hire, lease an apartment, date or trust a sex pedophile.

>>17848314
>>Job pays 2000pln/month which for a small town is not terrible but still it's barely above minimum wage and in big cities such money is laughable.
Oh fuck you, that's decent money for Poland, wish I had that.

Just turned 25 yesterday. About to dish out 8k for a computer programming bootcamp. Rolling the dice on this, not sure if it will make me employable but I've heard success stories.

>>17848372
>>17848372
I did that already, we had good times and hung out, I slept over and shit. I know that their life isn't as glorious as well, people trying make a good living in my country have it hard since the entry level job salaries are terrible and If you want to get an apartment you need to loan shitton of money which will leave you in debt till you die. But at least they have some direction in life and an work towards SOME goal, whereas I'm just sitting here with a thumb up my ass, doing my routine of 8 hours at call center, back home, vidya, 4chan, sleep and back to work everyday for 3 years. I did equivalent of bachelors in Sociology at my initial uni but this is a laughable and useless degree, then I tried something that can be actually applied at work market but I failed miserably trying management since I can't do entry level math and logistics was the same story. I'm too dumb at science type of subjects and won't ever catch up, procrastination fucks me up even more and I feel like I sabotage myself a lot and then I hate myself for it.

>>17848403
Yeah that's decent but It's not like I spend it. I have no hobbies besides vidya, I am into /k/ stuff, entertained idea of doing some airsoft and reconstructions but that requires better money and time, and those two things I just don't have.

>>17848431
Good luck anon, I know it's risky ti splurge cash like that but we all have to try.

I am so glad I'm not 18-24 anymore. That was the worst experience of my life. Youth is overrated and vicious as far as I'm concerned and I'm glad my peers are starting to grow up. Youth is not fun if you're not a hormone ridden nutcase bent on fucking and drinking your way into oblivion. I look forward to the coming decades.

>>17848381
Jail in itself sucks. Granted I only spent 28 hours in county it was still pretty awful. I've had friends in prison who were there for years and I hear that's pretty shit too...

The whole sex offender thing after the fact is bad too. I went to school with some guy who fucked some like 16 year old when he was 18 or 19. He's a registered sex offender now. He can't get a decent job and everyone knows he's a sex offender. Frankly what he did wasn't that unforgivable and barely illegal but he's fucked for the rest of his life now. All he does is get fucked up all day and hang out with losers. He's lucky, I guess you could say, that his parents are rich and pretty much just give him an allowance, but he's 30 and still does all this dumb shit. Seems like his life just spiraled into shit. I know it ate him up for awhile and he just turned to more and more drugs thinking his life was over. It's that or suicide most of the time.

>>17848625
fuck man I turn 25 in a couple days and was going to post this bullshit long story but damn you're right you fucking absolutely right. I am glad I am starting to actually get my shit together after being to afraid that I never would be able to get my shit together.

a +25 advice that actually helped aint that a thing huh

>>17843094
dogs love unconditionally man, get a rescue dog it will help both you and the dog, get a pitty they are extremely loving despite the stigmas.

>>17848635
Also it's like now that I'm in my mid to late twenties, there is much less expectation placed on me in general. Youth culture is moving on to its new cohort, there aren't 3000 groups of various sorts targeting me trying to instill their values, my parents don't give a shit about me anymore. In general it's like society is saying, "he's probably become what he's going to be so let's move on to the next group." And to me this has translated to a sense of relief, a sense of space, a lot less constant bombardment of fucking bullshit. And in addition to that I'm much less sensitive to the point where the normal information bombardment doesn't phase me. I've become at peace with a lot to a certain extent as well as not being fixated upon.

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26 yo girl here. If you wanna talk about failures, let's do it.

>>17850019
Ok, who's a bigger failure: Stalin, Zizek or Horvat?

>>17850032
ask shillary

>>17844768
I've seen worse. You're both adults, who gives a shit.

>>17850019
I don't believe you are a grill
You just want (you)s

But as for failure.
I'm 27 and don't even have a career
I'm also never been in a relationship

I'm fixing the latter now but the former, well, I think I've given up.

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I feel so confused.

I'm a 25 year old single guy. But I don't know what the fuck I want.... and it's really confusing me and irritating me.

I finally set my foot down and started making a lot of positive changes over the past year. Im getting in shape, I dress better, and I'm saving a shit load of money and using it to pay for training toward my dream career. But... girls.. that is something that bothers me every fucking day. I don't know what to do. That's a field I'm extremely inexperienced in, which it shows because I just pushed away a girl who was dream material last week. She really liked me, but I didn't feel ready or capable of being a boyfriend, so I pushed her away with hopes she'd still be friends with me. But she's upset. So that just further proves I'm not boyfriend material. And I mean.... I never want a family. I never want a wife or kids, ever. So what's the point of dating right?? Why? But, since I'm a healthy male, I can't help but think of girls because it's instinct. But I also DONT want to have random sex either....

What the fuck am I suppose to do? This shit is really messing with my head

>>17850378
You need to let yourself fail, bro
Experience is just another word for "I know how to lose"

Fail and get hurt
That's how you grow
Let that girl in
Even if she hurts you, you learn

>>17850418

She's already gone. It's the same girl I posted about a week ago in here. She was amazing, really attractive and great personality. We shared the same career goals and passions too. Well, I fucked it up. and she got hurt because she really wanted things to work with us. But I'm just not ready for a girlfriend. so she said "well.... what's the point of dating if things won't workout.." and she stopped talking to me...


I mean, if I don't want to get married or have kids, if I don't want to be in a relationship with someone, if I don't want someone to love me. Then what the fuck am I suppose to do?

>>17850445
There's never a "point" to relationships
You just gotta have what's now and enjoy it

>>17850452

That just sounds dumb to me. I've always lived my life that it I invest in something, I make sure it's worth it. So why should I invest so much time and energy into something that will end badly?

>>17850495
Because you don't know
Emotions are inherently irrational
Attempting to be rational about something irrational is useless

You can't quantify qualifications

>>17850502

But it will end badly eventually... I don't want a family..so at some point, sooner or later. A relationship would end

>>17850513
Ending badly is part of the point
Because you learn

There is no pleasure without pain

>>17850521

>ending badly is part of the point

That's stupid. How's that suppose to convince me to give girls a shot?

>>17839930
>make 100k annual
Man, fuck you! At least your financial situation is good. I make $33K, and I still can't afford to rent my own apartment. I'll trade with you.

>>17850525
How do you know what's good with no bad?

>>17777777

>>17850527
I'm so confused.

I literally feel so lost right now. I don't understand why i'd invest money in a stock that I knows going to crash...

>>17850535
Let me break it down even simpler

How do you know what foods you like before you eat them?
You need to commit to the first bite to know whether you know

Relationships are like that
You need to commit and after that, then you decide

>>17850543

The difference tho, me eating a new food isn't a investment. if I don't like it, it was over within seconds and I know not to eat it again.

But with a girl, I could invest so much time, awkwardness, and energy. Who knows maybe it'd go well for a few years. But then it'd fail. So all the energy I put it went to waste

>>17850550
Nothing ventured
Nothing gained

>>17850555

I just don't think you understand man..

I don't want love..

>>17850566
Yeah you do

You don't know what you have to gain but you think you know what you have to lose

Everyone doesn't want to feel alone.
This is a primal need.
No one wants to be alone

>>17850572

I don't feel comfortable with the fact of someone having feelings for me.

Shit, I don't even like when people go out of their way for me. A co-worker did a lot of shit for me yesterday and I didn't even ask, I felt really guilty.

Hell, I don't even accept Christmas gifts.

>>17850591
I know how you feel

You feel responsible for reciprocation

The root of your problem is that you feel inferior
You feel like you can't give back to them what they gave to you.

That's why I'm telling you to get used to failure and sadness
Because you fear failure

You fear someone telling you "You're not good enough. You tried but it wasn't enough"
That's your ultimate fear
Just like it's mine

>>17850610

>you fear failure

That can't be true.. because I've failed a lot of really big things...REALLY big things... things that really fucking depressed the shit out of me, and almost caused me to lose my mind and shoot myself last year.

>>17850619
Been there
I had a break down in my second year of college
I remember being in the middle of a org chem class and just crying
I didn't finish my exams that year

That was 7 years ago

We compartmentalize our failures
One type of failure doesn't leech into the other

28 here. Felt like shit for last 6-7 years.
Imagine that you start losing hair around 19-20.
The upside is I have even less possible haircuts to worry myself with.

I never expected it to get better, felt like sinking deeper and deeper with each month/year.

Like some fucking deep sea creature, going back to surface once in a while just to fully "enjoy" sinking back in.

Casueal drinking helped our [or not] a bit and suddenly this year a lot of things took a sudden, unexpected, good direction.

Who would have thought ?

>>17850659
Don't let alcohol mislead you

It did me
The last two years, I've been an alcoholic
It started small but now it's taking over

You need more meaning than what booze can help

>>17850650

Well, love and sex is something I just can't do.

I just wish my natural instinct would shut the fuck up and stop putting thoughts in my head. Even tho I'll be in a amazing career and making over $100,000 in a few years, im probably still going to kill myself one day If these thoughts don't stop

>>17850676
>love and sex is something I just can't do
You can
You just need to meet the right person

I'm like you.
I have much the same failings and much the same complexes

I meet a woman that I can really love once or twice a decade
But man, when you do...
Jeez, it's like feeling the sun on your face after a long winter

Don't give up mate

If you do got a lot of money, use to find a means of happiness.

I wish I had money.
There are so many small things you can do find a sort of happiness

>>17850669
It was more like 2-3 beers daily, before going to bed, no heavier liquor unless something special occured or had a meetup with one of my two friends.

The point is alcohol was not a meaning, it was a numbing medicine, so I don't spent 2h trying to fall asleep and/or crying.

Father ended as an alcoholic and a hobo so I'm always aware of that end.

Saying bye and just offing myself was a no go coz I'm a stubborn fucker, wanted this poor comedy-drama come to natural conclusion.

>>17850700
You gain resistance over time
That's what kills you

You need 2-3 beers a day
Then 3 beers feels like 1.

Also 2-3 is like 400-600 calories
Nigga you gon be fat

>>17850688

>I meet a woman that I can really love
once or twice a decade But man, when you do... Jeez, it's like feeling the sun on your face after a long winter

Well. I didn't say this before. But there was one girl I met while traveling internationally. We never had sex, but we became really close. When I returned home we kept talking and ended up developing feelings for each other. I really really liked her. And she liked me a lot. We really cared about each other.we talked for a year. I even booked tickets to fly over to be with her. Bought them 4 months out. 3 months out, she became really busy with school, so that mixed in with the time zones, we didn't talk as much during that time. 2 months out, I find out she had just met a guy at uni. But she said she still cared about me and wanted to see me when I visit. That shit devastated me. Fucking hurt so god damn bad. I still visited her, and we just hung out and talked. But it hurt inside badly sitting with her,knowing things over... she's literally the reason my
Life changed. She's the reason I started dressing nice, and started pursuing the things I wanted. That "breakup" or whatever the hell it was really fucked me. Have me bad anxiety and It was hell.

I finally got rid of my anxiety and feel level now. But I fucking NEVER want to go through that again.

I've been in combat before in Afghanistan, and that didn't fuck with me as much as this shit did

>>17842548
Finance is for whatever reason difficult to if you've had other work experience. Supposedly they like fresh meat.

>>17850720
But you have to

You and I feel the same.

It fucking hurts. I know how much. You somehow feel even more alone than you did when you never knew anyone.

But she's not unique. That's what you have to know.
She's not unique.
There can be another

You have to believe there can be another

>>17850705

I never had urge to go for more than 4 beer when I was drinking alone. And with literally 2 friends it's hard to find excuses to get drunk 7 days a week.
Drinking with strangers is a no go, coz too many people get batshit insane after they booze up.

Also as time went by I started eating a bit less, not that I care bout my weight much been stuck with it for last 6 or more years.
[90-95 kg 103cm around my belly area]

Also I said things took a positive turn:
- could finally move out from my mothers place [24 square m flat]
- got back to my girl
- found a hobby
- enjoy my buzzcut hairstyle
- got a relatively best paid [tho fucking stressfull] work in my life
- got down to 2-3 beers 2 times a week

>>17850738

>You somehow feel even more alone than you did when you never knew anyone

This is true, I didn't know what lonliness was until now.


But, no. There won't be another. I don't want another. I can talk to female fine in a platonic sense. But I'm never going to allow myself to develop feelings ever again. I quit sex for that reason as well. I haven't had sex in years, by choice.

>>17850770
You will think this until you meet a special woman

They do exist

You will meet her and all your boundaries will melt away

>>17850770
I was like that for six years. Pure stubborness and fear.

You feel like life is playing / played you giving you thing you get involved in just to take them away.

Then it gives you 3-4 month to brew in those feeling and when you think it's semi-safe it fucks everything all over again.

My life felt like a game, "how many times can you kick Anon, till he won't try to stand up again".

Time is the best medicine. Stay stubborn but also honest. [with yourself too]

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Thread going nowhere so I'll repost

I'm a 26 year old Virgin (not kissless though, I've been so close it hurts), I dropped out of school twice, because of how fucked up I was. I've recently started taking anti depressants (Paxil) and it's actually been working, most of my anxiety, anger, hatred and depression has dissipated and I feel pretty good a lot of the time. I've also been referred to do a bunch of sessions of cbt by my psych for social anxiety, which I've been dodging for about a month. I've been working a shitty factory job which I absolutely hate and feel is below me. I was studying industrial design for a year and a half before I dropped out in January because the program is more art than tech based and I'm unsure of where I can get a job or not. Lately I've been thinking of going to a nearby school for an apprenticeship in renovation technician just so I can have a job that pays the bills. Deep down inside though I really want to finish industrial design or go to a nearby school for painting ( something I always dreamed about). I'm a total loser and just need help in general and due to the SSRI's I feel like I have an opening with which to finally heal myself. My goals are basically to have a girlfriend and have a job I can stand. How should I proceed?

I'm 30 years old and I just met a group of people that completely redefined how I see the human race.

Just... wow. WOW.

WOOOOOOOOOOW

>>17850779
Well if you go back to my OP. I did meet someone like that, someone that literally was my definition of "dream girl". She was the type of girl you'd want to spend a long time with. Those qualities, and to add. We shared the same passion. something that actually makes me think about her everytime I do it. Well, I pushed her away. For no reason. She got hurt and won't talk to me anymore. My friends are fucking pissed with me. Saying I threw her away for nothing and that she was exactly what I needed and that I threw away a dream girl who was perfect for me. Which is all true Tbh.

I just will not allow myself to get emotions anymore.

>>17850798

Oh I'm stubborn all right. I mean, I've been telling myself the last few years "I'm not going to get a girlfriend". And when I met that girl I mentioned above... i told her that. I told her I don't want a relationship, and even tho I really liked her (which i did, a lot) that I wouldn't get a girlfriend and we couldn't continue because it Won't work. She kept saying "why?? You're a great person, I'd love to date you.." and shit like that. It sucked and I did feel bad, but I needed to end things before we really connected. Because otherwise shit would have ended terribly in a few years by my own doing. Because I'm NEVER going to have a family. That's something I've been telling myself since I was 15 years old. So that shit isn't going to happen

i want to fuck this girl but she has a boyfriend. we have a date tomorrow and weve been seeing eachother one on one so i know she doesnt respect the guy at all

hes also older than her by i would guess at least 15 years. ive met him and he seems like a creep, he's bald, short and out of shape, dont get why she'd do that except she's weird

i like her but i know i cant trust her at all, and i a want to fuck her but i dont want to be scumbag and make a move on her even though thats what she wants me to do. i have no other options right now though and im fucking lonely, dont think i can do this though

>>17850853

Don't do it

>>17839947
>I'm lucky I'm fucking Asian and it doesn't look like I'm as old as I am
I'm unlucky cause I'm Asian, but then again, I'm a guy and I'm mixed, but people don't give a fuck. They just see me as 100% Asian, along with all the assumptions, stick them on me, and don't see me as a whole person.

So at least you can attract attractive members of the opposite sex. I couldn't do that if they were metal and I had an electromagnet! u_u

>>17840101
>I mean, I don't know what polishing the right boots entails but if it's like a city-type career, that's a lot of pubbing, clubbing, drinking and fucking, basically stuff I've never done.
It might, but I was just referring to the proverbial dick sucking that precedes any of that other stuff.

>>17841459
I am. My hairline has been receding very slowly for years now. I can only notice it from that time looking at pictures now. My hair likes to clump in the middle. It turns out it's because the temples are receding. Would frustrate the hell out of me when I tried to style my hair. To add insult to injury, I have traction alopecia on the top of my head from my job and it's too late to reverse it. The follicles have been permanently damaged. The receding hairline wouldn't be so terrible to deal with if I didn't have this on top of it. At least the former is natural.

I don't think I'll ever get a girlfriend, but I at least managed to get a real job after so many years of being a semi-NEET. I still can't shake off the subtle anxiety I have daily though.

>>17846492
>I know it's not actionable
if you actually liked her as a person and could make a life with her you would have no problem waiting

>>17850019
yeah, if you're 26 and not married with kids you're the biggest loser in the thread, no joke

>>17850019
>>17850356


25, fucked my career and wasted my degree, never had bf and never will, still live with my parents, gonna kill myself when they die.

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>27, turning 28 next month
>kissless virgin, still live with parents
>had a decent job with health insurance at a call center paying $15/hr since 2013
>was making strides in my life during that time
>bought own car, paying off student loans, even started losing weight and going to the gym, went from 315 to 250 in a year
>parents tell me how proud they are of me
>fast forward to September 2016
>accepted new job as software engineer for $20/hr
>now thinking I'll finally be able to afford to move out
>immediately get reassigned to help with remodeling of new building facility for company, since current building is shit
>was told it would be temporary until the engineering team was transferred over
>have no idea what I'm doing, basically doing construction work for the next two weeks
>during that time, management kept reassuring me that it was only temporary and that I was doing a good job
>during third week, get told by management that they didn't think i was a good fit and was being let go
>tried to call old job, said they would take me back but they have no openings
>send out numerous job applications, get no calls from anyone
>only able to find seasonal job at Best Buy
>gained 10 pounds and haven't gone to the gym since
>given up any hopes of moving out or getting a better job

Please kill me.

>>17851828
Alright, I'll marry you, how fat are you and where are you from?