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Have any of you anons had experience in dealing with doctors

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Have any of you anons had experience in dealing with doctors who are unwilling to listen? I have been struggling on and off for 3 years with symptoms that have been making my life miserable at times but all the doctors I have seen either say they don't know what might be going on or they tell me that I must be anxious.

My current primary care doc referred me to a cardiologist and the cardiologist did not even give me the chance to explain my symptoms completely and read whatever my primary care doctor wrote and told me that I am anxious and I must be healthy because I am a young person. He didn't even bother to run diagnostic testing on me.

So I feel as if I am backed into a corner, do you guys have any suggestions from personal experience with how to deal with doctors who refuse to listen?
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>>17821159
depends on the symptoms

if you just have a list of neurotic i'm nervous stuff then well maybe you are just anxious & should try those mood pills

get a full physicall especially TSH blood test if thyroid problem can cause all kinds of weird symptoms

go to private labs & pay for your own medical tests - don't need insurance

plenty of online blood testing companies etc

see a psychiatrist or psychologist & get their diagnosis, not a "therapist"

good luck
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>>17821159

The problem with a layperson describing the actions of a doctor, is that the actions of a doctor are not intuitive and obvious, and what is apparent to a doctor is not necessarily apparent to a layperson.

It's why you telling me what your doctor did or didn't do doesn't have the effect you might hope it would. I have no way of knowing whether your doctors are incompetent, or you are oblivious to their methods. I don't know you and so my instinct is to trust the doctors, but perhaps that just illustrates my bias.

I have to second >>17821281
and say that you should at least consider trying whatever treatment for anxiety is made available to you; the doctors just *might* be right.
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>>17821708
saving a screenshot of this. Not OP but I know the dilemma you're talking about and this is the best I've ever seen it articulated
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>>17821159
While it is within the boundaries of possibility that a doctor might not be up on all the latest research and might miss something, it is FAR more likely that the doctor has full information from the various tests, and just hasn't explained clearly enough to you how complete the data is.

While it is sometimes difficult for doctors to pinpoint what is the problem, it is very easy and quite absolute to be able to say what it ISN'T. A few basic tests can eliminate all the likely suspects. At that point a doctor has to use judgment. If it is extremely unlikely that you have some rare tropical disease, and quite likely (given what he observes about your behavior) that it is a mental/emotional problem (like anxiety), then good doctoring requires him to recommend treatment for the anxiety rather than the rare tropical disease.

Why not consider the possibility, however unlikely it seems to you, that the doctors might be right, and take the treatment they advise?
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Yes. Here is what worked for me.

1. Do a lot of research on your own, over the internet. Do not rely on your doctor to sort through the morass of potential health problems you could have. Narrow it down, find out what testing your doctor could be ordering to confirm or rule out diagnoses.

2. Find out what specialist is most equipped to diagnose a given condition and ask for a referral. Most docs love giving referrals because it means they don't have to deal with you. Seems like you have seen a cardiologist already.

3. If you have to and you can, switch doctors. Ask for a referral to another provider, switch GPs. I only do this if I think the person is so incompetent about such a big issue it's going to really hurt me (example: ignoring complaints that seem like kidney damage) because it can look bad.

4. Start phrasing stuff in a really humble way. Ask for testing and referrals to settle your worries, like your suspicions are baseless and silly and you would like to become less hysterical by discrediting them. Apologize a lot.

You know, five or ten years ago I would have thought all of the above advice was TERRIBLE, but that was before I got chronically ill. If I had listened to what doctors were telling me ("you must be having mild panic attacks that cause you to faint, and depression that's making you so tired and in pain and making your hair fall out") and not talked my clinicians into doing blood tests and MRIs and biopsies, based on some stuff I read on the internet and heard from friends, I would not know that I have lupus and Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome right now and I would have made no treatment progress whatsoever.

Most of getting adequate healthcare in this day and age is nagging and crowdsourcing diagnostic info on the internet.
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Oh, and it took me 2 years from the time I started taking my health more into my own hands to getting diagnoses confirmed. That's how much time it took to wait for openings for certain specialists, get people to answer messages/the phone, get enough other evidence stacked up to convince people to take me seriously and order bloodwork.

So you may be in it for a while.

Two more I just thought of:

5. Record things. Keep logs of whatever symptoms are relevant--sleep, pain, fatigue, whatever. Take photos. I have photos of my joints subluxing, lupus rashes, raynaud's, blood pooling and edema in my feet, etc, on my phone, so people will stop acting like it doesn't happen because it's not there during the appointment or asking me to perform on cue.

6. BRING A FRIEND. Bring someone else to your appointments. They can even just sit there, but if they're a busybody it will help. It is harder for a doctor to blow you off when they're outnumbered.
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>>17821159
All doctors are faggots, kys cuck
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>>17821159
Not really related to your issue but I have a problem with really waxy ears (they keep getting blocked). One time I got so pissed off I went nuts in my ear with a q-tip and ended up bruising the shit out of it. I went to the doc complaining about ear pain and they told me my ear was bloody and bruised inside, and that I shouldn't have done what I did. This I agree with, but then they said that "people's ears are self cleaning" and that I shouldn't do anything at all. I tried explaining that I have overly waxy ears but they just told me to leave it and it'll sort itself out. Obviously it didn't, although the bruising healed the wax was still there. For some reason I was talking about it with my gran and she told me to put a few drops of olive oil in each ear for a few weeks. I did that and eventually the wax came out.

tl;dr I guess some doctors just don't listen, but instead of going nuts on self-medication, get some other advice first.
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>>17821996
Op here, Thanks for this I will try my best
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