>he fell for the "be yourself" meme

>>17813151
>became myself
>turns out nobody likes "me"

who would have guessed that pretending to be the same was such a bit part of our social fabric

>>17813162

Maybe "me" is just an asshole? Being yourself means being honest, it's not a blank check to be a disgusting person.

>Falling for the "be yourself" meme
>I'm actually great

nice

>>17813171
but this is exactly the point

individuality has been reduced to the petty consumer choices you make, the stores you shop at, which socialist clique you follow

everyone says "be yourself", but as soon as you do something they don't like they say "Stop being an asshole"
and they go between the two constantly

the self-righteousness is stunning
judging people is bad enough, without rubbing salt int he wounds by telling the people you are paying out on that they are free

>>17813183
>individuality has been reduced to the petty consumer choices you make, the stores you shop at, which socialist clique you follow

Yeah, I bet *that's* the problem. That you don't buy in the right place.

Listen, if bumfucks are smug to you because you wear the wrong clothes, then they are assholes and you should look for better friends.

If, on the other hand, they are tired of a whiner complaining about how the world is unfair to him, then you are the problem.

Take a hard look at yourself and decide if you really are worth getting to know.

>>17813151
>>17813194
> if you really are worth getting to know.
is your objective in life living up to other people's expectations, and being valuable to someone else?

the people pushing you over are the same ones telling you to stand up for yourself

>>17813232
>is your objective in life living up to other people's expectations, and being valuable to someone else?

Here's my question: Why don't people like you?

I'm quite happy with myself, and some people don't like me, so don't worry, I'm not going around trying to impress everyone.

What about you? What do they not like about you?

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>>17813151
We dont't want you to be yourself
We want you to free yourself

>>17813151
I am a firm believer of honesty. I won't lie to anyone I respect. Walking the fine line can be hard but more often than not I've been told my loud and opinionated views are entertaining and respected. Also been called asshole. Even when I offend someone they usually backtrack after calming downs since I make such clear and valid points. I know this makes me sound like a massive cunt/edgy whatever. If you can be yourself, even if you're an asshole. It's generally appreciated.

Yeah I did. Turns out I'm pretty cool.

"Be yourself" doesn't mean "keep hanging out at your parents house and jerking off to anime well into your 20s".

>>17813355
This is the truth also nice dubs

Turns out "myself" is an asocial shut-in.
Though I suppose I'm a lot less miserable than when I was not being myself so there's that.

>>17813441
>Turns out "myself" is an asocial shut-in.
Doubtful. Your impulses may push you in that direction, but you are not your impulses. Frankly, quite the opposite: you are the thing that tells your impulses to sit down and shut up while you go do what you need to be doing.

What is your "self"? Have you even built one yet, or are you still the big ball of impulses we all begin life as? You can't be yourself until you've built a self to be.

Honestly, the real problem with the "be yourself" meme is that we're telling it to kids who are too young to understand. They're still in the big ball of impulses stage, with no idea that the self can possibly even BE anything else. Is it any wonder that, armed with this misinterpretation, many never grow beyond it?

>Though I suppose I'm a lot less miserable than when I was not being myself
Are you? You don't sound like it.

>>17813479
Impulses are what make us human

>>17813491
this is not even close to true

>>17813491
What makes us human is the ability to control impulse you stupid cuck. Why do you think animals do absolutely whatever they want. Fucking idiot.

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>>17813539
Do you feel in control?

>>17813555
That does not matter, I can. That's what matters. Other species act solely on instinct.

>>17813539
>le SEPARATES US FROM ANIMALS meme

>>17813511
>I read nietzche once xDDD

The only thing that matters is what you do, "deep down" is irrelevant.

>>17813561
>Other species act solely on instinct.
>Dolphins hunt for fun
>Fuck for fun
>Have social structures
>Whales have social structures
>Elephants can communicate with us given basic drawing tools
>Have shown natural compassion in the wild
>Apes have been shown to be able to communicate with us after being taught basic sign language, and can then teach other apes the language
>Dogs are capable of restraint and command
None of the things listed here are instinctive or impulsive.
Fuck off with your pseudo-science.

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>>17813561

You're not very well educated are you

>>17813479
>Frankly, quite the opposite: you are the thing that tells your impulses to sit down and shut up while you go do what you need to be doing.
I have food, shelter, internet and a work-from-home job to pay for those. I don't think I need more than that.

>Are you? You don't sound like it.
Yes. Currently I only feel like shit one day a week, instead of feeling like shit six days a week like back when I was forcing myself to hang out with people.

There was a girl who really liked me. Like, for who I was. I didn't pretend shit or anything. It made me feel awkward tho, so I ended up pushing her away because I don't see why anyone would like me. I figured maybe she was making a mistake.

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"Just be yourself" is what normies tell you when they know you're not one of them because you show a lot of warning signs and they don't want you to take those signs off so that all the other normies know to stay away from you.

The "be yourself" meme is a normie conspiracy.

>>17813909
Idiot

>>17813151
The meme is a code against impostors.

>>17813151
Why is /pol/ one of the most popular boards here?

It's a strange phenomenon, whilst there are a group of people who actually believe the Jew meme and are legit nazis, the majority of users are actually people sick of the current overwhelming social pressures and looking for alternatives in the opposite of whatever has disheartened them usually recognising the source of the ever growing negative pressure being media and social authorities then labelled as Jews.

Whilst /pol/ is always right, the thing they are the most correct about is no person or entity has the right to make you feel like complete shit and strip you of your worth so they can sell you and idea or product.
There is inherently nothing wrong with the way you are, you are exactly who and how you are meant to be at this point of time, whether you accept this is up to you.
Another thing you choose to accept is allowing friends or associates so polluted and imprinted on by marketing that not only do they allow other people or companies dictate the way they should be, but that they are so subverted they start doing the work of marketing companies trying to convert others into a false narrative view of life FOR FREE.

You can't change these people, they will always be easily led. But you can choose to not listen to their aggressive sales pitch and be comfortable with who you are knowing your identity is cast in iron while they are wet clay.

You only have a problem being yourself when others say it is wrong.
Pro tip: a lot of people are idiots

>>17813151
>>17813151
It's a pretty big world out there man. Unless you're a complete cunt (And even then...) you just need to keep meeting new people until you find some that click.

Most people that who whine about this give me the vibe expect their personality to just work with everyone, and get hurt when it doesn't. Take it from somebody who grew up going above and beyond to adjust myself to appeal to the people around me: (Chameleoning, it's called.) It really just depends on who you're with. Now that I'm grown, I care less about doing that. To my surprise, I still have friends and I've still found lovers. It's clearer than ever that you have the luxury to be choosy no matter who you are. This is literally the most connected our society has ever been.

It's not bad advice, if taken with reason. Just as chameleoning isn't a wholly bad thing either, provided you aren't doing it like an insecure teenager.

>>17813151
"Yourself" doesn't exist. "Yourself" is just a result of what environment you grew up in and the people around that environment. You are what you attach your thoughts to desu.

itt: people miss the point of the phrase

Socrates: Know thyself

>>17813151
Worked for me. If you misunderstand "yourself" as being a lazy piece of shit, that down to you being dumb and not having the capacity to understand an advice before following it.

>>17814026
Most people on /pol/ are trolling, you realize that, right?

>There is inherently nothing wrong with the way you are, you are exactly who and how you are meant to be at this point of time
That depends ... obviously there is objectively nothing wrong with being a racist pedo rapist ... but the choices to do this things, will massively lower your life quality, so it'd be only logical to make better choices and don't fall for the determinism meme on this level.

You should just be yourself. But if yourself is a boring loser, you should do something to fix that.

>>17814895
Doubt any human can be inherently a boring loser, to become one he/she would need an environment that enables it.

Nothing in this life happens by accident. And no, I'm not saying there is a divine intervention. I mean people work at things. Putting time and energy into what they get.

You don't just get a job. You apply. You went through an interview. You wore a nice shirt and rehearsed answers. Same with school. You didn't just get an F. You chose to smoke pot, you didn't study the night before, you watched South Park and skipped breakfast.

I'm guessing OP is talking about women. You don't just go up and talk to a girl and get a date. Id say cold approaches have a 10% success rate. Most people don't want to be bothered on their way to work or busy doing laundry. Settings like bars and parties help. Also, you put in time and effort. Work out to get fit. Comb your hair. Nice shirt. Details like a watch or cologne. A good sense of humor. Funny stories and activities planned for the next day.

>>17815026
>Comb your hair. Nice shirt. Details like a watch or cologne.
Shit like that is mostly irrelevant and many idiots who skipped the important factors while focusing on that end up surprised that nobody wants them.

In life there are crossroads. We meet many of them every single day. It is the road we choose to take that defines us. You hear phrases all the time like "Take the road less traveled" or "Take the high-road". The truth is, what lies on each path is blocked by a hill crest. You can't really tell in life where these roads are going to take you. Nobody ever told us that good times were promised to us. Nobody has to tell you it's going to be okay. Nobody has to hold your hand and guide you. Nobody knows what the right path for you is. The truth is that there is no right path. It's what you do along that path that defines you. "Be yourself" means be comfortable with your many, many, many flaws. We all have many, many, many flaws. My mother always framed it like this: "Every supermodel shits in the same position". Next time someone is judging you for being your honest self, remember that. Next time you're being a not-so-great person to somebody, just remember that you're one unlucky turn from living on the street. That crossroad could take you anywhere. Be conscious of how you treat others along the way, because you may meet them again some day in a situation where you need their help, and if you took a shit on them, they might pass you up and move on, as you deserve. These are the trials of life, man. There is no right answer, and there is no yellow-brick-road. Some people get carried along the entire way, and some of them get dragged through the dirt the whole way. You're most likely somewhere in the middle, and I'd say that makes you pretty fucking lucky, so quit feeling sorry for yourself and go make someone else's day better.

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>>17813151
I'm much more likely to get laid when I'm myself, even knowing this, I still don't act like "myself" unless I'm slightly buzzed. Therapy would probably help but I don't have the time for therapy when I work 10-12 hour shifts. How do I harness the ability to be me while sober?

>>17813573
>fuck off with pseudoscuence
>thinks elephants and apes seriously communicate with us
lol

>>17815121
Dogs and cats do, unless I'm misunderstanding "seriously communicate"

What makes you think other social animals won't if they're put in a situation where they may understand that it's necessary?

>>17813171
>Maybe "me" is just an asshole?
that's just wrong though, being a dick is what has gotten me all of my girlfriends
being nice to girls is literally the last thing you should do, they don't know what they want.
but of course, you don't want to come off as too much of a dick either. thats possible too

its about being the ideal yourself
when you are that, you enjoy being you and other ppl enjoy your company
eventually women aswell

what happens usually is ppl have issues and they try to cope with them, instead of solving them

thus entering a circle of self hate, disappointment and even more self hate
thats not very attractive is it

>>17815121
>I am unironically this far removed from modern journals since 1995

It works for me desu
When I start overthinking and acting unnaturally is when I fall flat on my face

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>>17813151
>He fell for the "be yourself is a lie" meme

>>17813355

/thread

>>17815082
>Nobody ever told us that good times were promised to us.
I was basically told this. I was told I would be rewarded later in life for the suffering I endured.

>>17815096
>Therapy would probably help but I don't have the time for therapy when I work 10-12 hour shifts.
How many days are you getting off a week working those kinds of hours?

It doesn't matter if """""urtruuself""""" is an asshole. Being around people that value you for what you are is better than hanging out with people that vslue you for what you pretend to be.