ITT: Ask the opposite gender anything

Is it a common for guys to believe that their gf (or even ex gf) will always be there for them? Even if she moves on and gets in a new relationship?

>>17769836
No.

>>17769836
Nope. The second we are no longer together, she is missing presumed dead for me.

>what do women mean why they say that the need to know if they can trust you?
I've never understood this. Do they want to see my criminal record, or my driving abstract? I've had this said to me by hundreds of women, but I have absolutely no idea what it means. Is it just some bullshit meant to allow them to keep one foot out the door in the relationship?

>whats so special about sex?
It feels, based on how women approach the topic of sex, that women hold sex on some super high pedestal like its the defining moment in a relationship... I, a human male, just want to get my rocks off. I'm not basing whether or not I'm going to marry you on your performance in bed. To me its just "adult fun time," and has no bearing on, nor is it strongly affected by, how much I like you.

>why do you care so much about saving face?
If you are concerned about my feeling, all I can say is that responding with a maybe is far worse then saying no; and, to be honest, I don't feel very strongly anyways so it isn't like you're going to do much damage anyways. Is it just another "one foot out the door" kind of thing?

>why don't you like being catcalled?
I love being complimented by women. It makes me feel great! Is it the specific tone that puts you off? Or is it because you get it all the time so you've become jaded?

>>17769816
Question for Femanons mostly:
>25 yo virgin, former autist, now outgoing, fit lots of friends, hobbies , good life etc.
>Missed dozens of opportunities with girls in the last years because I never actually tried and always assumed failure before even trying for various reasons
>Now I'm trying , and girls often reciprocrate when I flirt with them, but I find it hard to escalate because 0 experience

My question is - should I simply tell girls I'm inexperienced to take off the pressure and aware them? I generally come off as the kind of guy who has his shit together and would have no qualms about putting the moves, but in that regard I'm pretty much a teenage boy. So I think the sudden discrepancy when I start fumbling around like a teenager out of noithing would do more to turn them off than simply being honest.
What do you think?

And by the way, I'm not looking for a gf or anything, I just want to get laid with someone nice, whether at a party or after going on a few dates doesn't matter.

>Hi I love you
what did she mean by this?

>>17769816
>I really didn't want to lose your number
Just sent that to a grill and want to kill myself, I just realised how much it reeks of desperation. Send help please.

>>17769914
Support me while i lounge and get fat

>>17769954
oh, I lost her number and asked her what it was.

>>17769966
>that's because I'm awesome
Oh damn she replied wat do

>>17769966
>>17769954
Well you went about it all wrong.
You chat her up about something and tell her you'll call her and than act all shit my phone broke, can i get your number, i know again. And act casual about it. Shit happens.
Like this you acted as if you lost it in a pile of cum soaked tissues.

>>17769836
i will never count on my exes for anything other than future disappointment.
I also understand that any gf I am/was with will be available to an extent. anyone that's not family has a breaking point

>>17769985
I'll keep this in mind for next time (as if it'll ever happen)
>Like this you acted as if you lost it in a pile of cum soaked tissues.
you're a poet even if you make me feel like shit.

>>17769907
Hire an older escort (late twenties early thirties; you can go higher, but it isn't needed) and tell her that you're a virgin. Ask her to explain all the basic dos and don'ts. Chances are she's had every kind of sex possible, and they know what works and what doesn't. To be honest, they actually love that shit. I've done it a couple times(the first time I actually needed it. I wasn't a virgin, but it had been a couple years thanks to being a neet shut in. The others were probably because I was craving some kind of light femdom) and they actually get really into it. I think it's has something to do with validating their existence; like the satisfaction an old man gets by teaching his grandson how to fish.

Anyways, they'll be more then happy to get you comfortable enough with sex to be the man you want to be in bed.

While I was talking with my ex after a long period of time(yeah i know, it's not a good idea, but i was curious). We talked about a country he visited last month, when I said how lucky he was he replied "Don't worry, i'll eventually take you there one day".

I'm really confused now desu, would that mean that he still sees "us" not being over?

>>17769891
>what do women mean why they say that the need to know if they can trust you?
you need to demonstrate that you're not just out to get your nut. unless that's what you're trying to do, in which case demonstrate that you're not gonna be clingy faggot about it
>whats so special about sex?
it varies from person to person. guys can get super sappy about the horizontal mambo; girls can just want a one-off. talk to your partner about it like an adult
>why do you care so much about saving face?
girls get this idea that if a guy doesn't take the rejection well, they could be killed. no real justification for it other than some anecdotal evidence
>why don't you like being catcalled?
the people doing the catcalling are not the 7+/10s that you'd want yelling at you. also no LTR has ever started with "...and when he yelled 'nice jugs, sugar tits' I knew he was the one :) "

>>17770004
Nah. I already know a somewhat older woman who caught wind of my virginity through a friend and now apparently really wants to take it.
Problem is, worst case I see her earliest middle of next summer, and I don't want to waste the time until then.
Also, the whole thing already worked pretty well on a 19-year old I met this Summer, whom I just told I've never kissed a girl before, and that's how I got to make out with a qt at least. Sadly pussied out of fucking her, though she practically begged me to.
Thanks for your tip, I'll keep it in mind if all else fails , but I won't waste my salary on something I konw I can achieve for free with some patience. Also I really don't want to carry around a shameful secret I have to pretty much take to my grave if I can avoid it in any way.
I'm just under the impression that older escorts aren't the only ones who love that shit, and would like some female opinions.

>>17769891
I don't mind getting catcalled.
It' a major confidence boost. Even if it's just by fat drunk goth chicks and pervy old ladies. It just brings a smile on my face. Kinda anoying when it happens when I'm with a girl.

I don't like getting groped tho.

>>17770063
Dude you're not a kid. No one is going to dig in your past to see if your a virgin. Sure you're gonna suck in bed but and heres the important part everybody dose. Try not to shove it in her belly button and you're golden. And after 2-3 times you'll be on par with 90% of guys out there. Talk to your partner about what she likes and you'll be even better than that.

>>17770071
Yeah, I'm not worried at all about the sex part itself. It's more the getting there, as I'm at a an age where the guy is expected to escalate and lead things without stumbling all over himself, and I have no confidence in my ability to do that.

>>17770085
Drink.

Alcohol is courage in liquid form.

>>17770063
There is a difference between an escort and a hooker(stay as far away from hookers as you can). A significant amount of escorts actually enjoy their work(they usually see lonely old divorced men, or men in sexless relationships). They weed out the undesirables by upping their rates so they usually aren't jaded by the behavior of idiots(shit, most wont even see black men for this very reason; even if they have the money).

And to be honest, there is no shame in it; at least from my perspective. Shit, you know all those people you look up to? Actors, politicians, athletes? They all fuck escorts and they do it all the time. Most of them are even married to gold diggers, and their ain't much difference between a gold digger and an escort; just how overt the payment is, and the duration of the relationship.

>>17770107
desu, it's more about facing a challenge I've avoided for far too long than getting laid in itself.
Why should I waste what little money I have to spend one or two hours with an Escort when I denied that hot girl who tried to pull me to her room a year ago despite exactly knowing what she was trying to do?
I need to find my fucking balls man.
I mean, what would fucking an escort change besides emptying my wallet and feeling disappointed with myself?
This isn't the first time I made things happen I once thought impossible.And if I've learned one thing it is that I've always regretted it when I took what looks like the easy way out so far.

>>17770129
>I mean, what would fucking an escort change besides emptying my wallet and feeling disappointed with myself?

I'm a different Anon, and I'm with you. I did pay for sex to get started. I don't think it was worth it. Keep trying the other way. Wish you better luck than my own.

Girls, what sort of porn are you into?

>>17770129
Then wtf are you doing here? Did you really think someone on a Japanese cartoon shitposting forum was going to teach you the secret to being Don Juan, slayer of pussy?

If you just want to figure it out yourself then why are you asking? Yes, she will probably notice that you're inexperience. Will she care? How could I know, how could any of us know? We aren't that girl...

>>17770151
I watch a bit of everything. Mostly anal things (fingering or rimming more than anal sex), cum play and lesbian things.
I have am a bit picky with the actors - they have robbed white, have a decent American accent and not be too horrible at acting. And in general I don't want it to look tacky, I want it to look like they are genuinely into each other. And no humiliation - I get second hand embarrassment a lot and it kills me.

>>17769836
Not common but a lot do. One of my ex's was a huge clinger, sending me letters and getting other people to pass along messages to me years after we'd dated wanting me to talk to him
we'd only dated 3 months

>>17769891
>what do women mean why they say that the need to know if they can trust you?
they wanna know if you're reliable, gonna stick around and be respectful, or if you just want to orgasm then disappear, share private info with your friends etc.
>whats so special about sex?
Everyones different, some of us find it intimate and the ultimate show of love while others don't
>why don't you like being catcalled?
disrespectful and generally done by cunts. I just wanna get home from work and watch tv, why would you think its socially acceptable to catcall at me
worse when its done at night since thats another reason to feel unsafe

>>17769907
Yeah sure tell them, if you're just after sex then be aware some women won't want to bother. It just comes down to the person.

>>17770015
Who knows, we can't read his mind. He's either just humouring the idea while talking to you, or yeah he might be hinting he's interested in you

Anyone, how do you get over rejection? Or, how can I at least take a cooler approach towards the pain of rejection?

>>17770184
working on your next target lol

>>17770184

It depends. Did you do something bad to the person and that's why you were rejected? Then use the pain to improve yourself.

If you just asked someone out and got rejected, remember people have their own shit to deal with, and rejecting you is not meant to hurt you. They just don't want a date/relationship. There's nothing wrong with that.

>>17770156
Man, I just wanted some female input here is all.
I already realised there's no manual for this kind of shit, but sometimes it's good to check back when you get an Idea.
>>17770171
Thanks. It's probably better to filter out those anyways. Lots of likeable girls out there, I don't care so much if I get rejected by any particular one for whatever reason.

Girls, how much would your feelings be hurt on a scale of 1-10 if an ex sent you a vaginal odor product on Amazon out of spite?

I read the FAQ but still:
Girls (and guys I guess) how do you get over immense insecurity concerning sex and body image? Haven't had sex in years because the prospect of a guy seeing my misshapened body naked is mortifying to me. Personally I wouldn't care about a partners body too much as long as I like him, is this the same for everybody?
I realize insecurity is a turnoff, so what do? Just ignore it? Never discuss it with a (potential) partner?
Also would it be weird to date a guy who is a) shorter and b) smaller than me (I'm 180cm and pretty large & hulking).
I myself don't really care about this stuff but I do know how awful people talk about each other, so...

>>17770210

People are usually too concerned with their own misshapen naked bodies to really concerned themselves with their partner's.

As long as YOU don't let it get to your head too much, you'll be fine.

>>17770202
I wouldnt care much but I also know women who'd go "ugh" if they learned a guy used to be a virgin before them.
Honestly I think the best thing to do is not telling her, being shit in bed doesn't necessarily mean you're a virgin. Lots of people are shit in bed notbing to stress over or be ashamed of. Maybe satisfy her orally before sex, lots of women don't always come during the actual sex. Don't worry too much.

>>17769891
>whats so special about sex?
If something goes wrong, I am facing life long consequences to your adult fun in a stronger way than you do. I honestly wouldn't have sex with a guy I don't trust and have kids with.
Other than that - I see it as a moment of intimacy.

>why don't you like being catcalled?
I love being complimented by my man or people I find attractive and am flirting with. A random stranger that treats me like an object and yells at me I have nice tits makes me feel mildly scared and just annoyed.

>>17770208
Depends, probably not that much if you have a shitty relationship now and she knows it's purely out of spite. Not really something common to be insecure about if you clean yourself regularly.

>>17770208

0. It's my ex, doesn't matter two shits what he does anymore. It would just seem sad and bitter. If it was from a guy whose head spends time between my legs nowadays, though, the number would go notably up. Bang her once more if you want to make it count.

>>17770208
Probably a 3. I'd send a penis enlargement kit and how to please a woman book back in return though

>>17770210
this->>17770219
Nothing weird about dating a shorter guy, otherwise you may as well say why would you date a guy with brown hair, thats just weird, why would you date a guy with body hair, thats just weird
If your friends talk shit to you or your partner if he's smaller then you need new friends who aren't idiots.

>>17770223
It's more about using my virginity to actually get laid than worrying about what they think afterwards, see? I don't mean to tell them just before or something, I mean to tell them so they either accept there's nothing too smooth to expect from me, or even start making the moves themselves.
It'd also spare me ending up with such a woman. Yeah, I'm just looking for Sex but nothing against doing it with someone you get along well. In my opinion, those women are either insecure, bitchy or not really into me anyways.

>>17770237

She is insecure about it because she doesn't like to shower lel

>>17770208
whats wrong with vaginal odor, what are you gay?

Girls

Is it ok if I lie to this girl I'm dating about my sexual past? She's texting me right now asking what things I like and things she wants to try. but I'm really inexperienced. I'm 27 years old, and I've only had sex twice ever, and I was 20 years old at the time.

I don't know what to say to her? Do I just play a long?

>>17770304
If you've just started dating and you're already lying, just end it. She deserves better

Of course you tell her, what's the point being with someone you can't share things with.

"i've only been with a few girls before so i really don't have much experience with things, there's things i like though such as x and y which we could try but it'd be a learning experience to us both."

>>17770304

Don't lie. There's no need to tell everything, but outright lying might bite you in the ass later on. Just work around it, say something vague like "I've only done pretty vanilla stuff, so sure would like to try x, x and x." Ask her questions, encourage her answeres, try to get her talking. But don't lie.

So I'm going to meet a girl that I've been seeing a little bit. However, this is after we had a bit of an incident(I'm a high functioning autist, and/or paranoid schizo; and I spazed out on her over texted). I have no idea why she even agreed to have lunch, but I feel like it is proof enough to say she is still interested; at least in being associated with me, if not in a relationship.

Anyways, there are some things I'd like to say to her in person; however, conversations are hard enough for me as is, so I have a tendency to simply go with the flow or zone out if I'm in a group setting. So my question to you, femanons, is how weird would it be if I brought a small list of speaking points I'd like to cover? Should I write them on my hand instead? Would it be better to simply text them? It's kind of an apology, though it is more of an explanation of my behavior. However, I'd still prefer to say it in person...

I met this girl a few months ago, and now I've decided I'd like to take her out on a date. My plan right now is to call her when we get back from break, and see if I could take her to dinner. But what do I do if I get her answering machine? Do I ask her about it anyway, or do I wait for her to call back to ask?

Would really like a females opinion on this. I kind of feel like an ass but I think I did the right thing

>Seeing this hot chick
>Couple of dates, going slow
>Really digging eachother, got a handy in the driveway before dropping her off on third date
>4th date she asks if I want to come inside while I'm dropping her off
>Ohhellyeah.jpg
>Walk in with her
>Her sister is there says her son was good
>She didnt tell me she had kids but no biggie I'm down
>"Sorry I didn't tell you I had a kid"
>No worries it's all good
>Start to smell afrosheen and cocoa butter
>2-3 year old niglet walks out
>Dont say a damn word and leave her apartment
>She put two and two together now her whole family is messaging me on Facebook calling me a racist prick and she deserves better than me

Oh well. Did I do bad?

>>17770329
>how weird would it be if I brought a small list of speaking things to cover

I've actually done this myself before, although I guess I am just a sperg.
She already knows you're weird it seems, does she know about any diagnosis? If she does it won't be a problem, if not I doubt she'll care much either. Just tell her what you've told us, should be fine.

>>17770151
Solo male, especially when they're fucking random objects or sex toys. Also Cody Cummings doing anything, especially solo.

Sometimes big creampie gangbangs, but with the sound off, women make such fake annoying noises in porn.

>>17770319

I'm generally a very open person, but this is one thing I don't feel comfortable talking about to anyone. Because of my age I'm expected to be sexually experienced. So if I say that I haven't seen a naked girl in 7 years it's going to look really awkward, and I know a lot of questions will be asked and stuff. I'm embarrassed really. If I told her, and if she reacted in shock, I'd feel really emasculated..

>>17770321

I guess.. I might try that. I just know so little. I don't remember what any of it feels like at all. Not to mention both sex experiences I've had were pretty bad experiences to begin with..

>>17770344

So you would be fine with a white dude walking out on her and her kid? Because as you are telling it, it sounds racist.

>>17770344
It's fine to leave if you didn't know she had a kid which is a dick move on her part
but it's a dick move on your part to leave because the kid is black, like really the fuck is wrong with you.

Saying that, don't respond to her family and friends, just ignore them and block them. Don't give them any response or satisfaction and carry on with your life

>>17770354
Yeah actually I would. Sorry but raising black kids isnt my thing
>>17770355
I dont mind the kid, I mind that its black. I know it's not the kids fault but it just isn't something I can deal with. Yeah ive blocking them left and right but they keep popping up. Funny thing is all the people are white. Not a single black person from the kids dad side have made an attempt to contact me.

>>17770372
Shoo shoo, back to /pol/ with you...

>>17770384
>Everything I don't like is pol

>>17770372

Then you are racist. Doesn't mean they have they right to harass you. But yeah, you are in the wrong here.

>>17770372
>>17770389
Nah, fuck that.
You need to stand by your principles whether those align with a supposed majority in your country or not.

>>17770397

One thing doesn't prevent the other. Standing by your principles doesn't mean you are not racist.

Actually, it's those principles that make you a racist.

>>17770389
Im racist for wanting to have kids the same color as me? You cant be serious.
>>17770397
That's what I'm trying to do but I'm getting major backlash for it.

At what point do you feel comfortable with a guy touching you at all?

>>17770414
first date

>>17770413
>Im racist for wanting to have kids the same color as me? You cant be serious.

So, it's his skin color that bothers you?

I've been messaging a guy for about a week. We had one lunch date and it was glaringly obvious we had nothing in common.

He's since been messaging and calling at least 15 times a day. I respond with a polite text at the end of the day because I don't want to ghost him while I figure out what to tell him.

The reason I havent ended it is I'm getting a real stalker vibe from him. We live really close and he's always asking where I'm gonna be and what time. He's shown up at my work a couple of times.

How do I end it without creating a monster stalker? I've commented about how little we had in common, he doesn't respond to that and just says he misses me and keeps calling me his darling. This is literally from a week of messaging and a one hour date.

Am I being paranoid worrying about the stalker coming out. Is he just a regular guy who likes me? If not what can I say that will clearly end it and make him forget about me?

>>17770254
you sound like a keeper.

>>17770414

Where do you wanna touch her, Skippy?

Cause arm around the shoulders can be done pretty much from the beginning if she is into you. Touching her ta-tas is a no-no until you are actually dating.

>>17770403
And if those principles happen to be racist, then that's the way it is.
You may rethink your principles , but bending them all out of shape to please others is Bullshit.

>>17770414
When I have his family hostage as collateral.

>>17770413

You're not being racist. don't listen to the other anons. because say you fall in love with that girl, and decided to get married. You'd probably try to see her kids as your own to give them a good upbringing. It would be REALLY hard to see those kids as your own

>>17770418
>Is he just a regular guy who likes me?

No, it's not. Regular guys don't do that.

Tell people at your job and around your house so they can help you keep an eye out. It's not gonna be pretty, but if he sees enough opposition he might back down sooner.

Either gender

Should someone with social anxiety and depression date? Or would it be too much for the partner?

Also I've discovered and been told that I am easy to be taken advantage of and am a complete pushover, if that helps with answer the question.

>>17770425
>Touching her ta-tas is a no-no until you are actually dating
I groped a girl who later became my gf.

>>17770426
>but bending them all out of shape to please others is Bullshit.

The point is not to please others. The point is asking yourself: Why does it bother me the kid is not white?

>>17770190
>>17770193

Thanks a lot guys.

>>17770436

Depends on how that happened. In a sexually charged, canaval-style party that might fly.

If you were sitting behind her at the theater she would need to be fucked in the head to go for you.

But don't confuse poor Anon with fringe cases, better to stick to regular human interaction for a while.

>>17770428
She says she is not ready for that yet.

>>17770433
I live with two of my older brothers he doesn't know where I live, but he knows who I live with so don't think he would risk my home.

I just want to end all interaction with him. I think just blocking him would turn things nasty. I need to find a way of letting him down gently without making him hate me.

I've tried saying I'm too busy for a relationship (actually true), but he just says he'll see me whenever I have time, no matter how long he has to wait.

>>17770418
>We live really close and he's always asking where I'm gonna be and what time. He's shown up at my work a couple of times.

He has been warned by someone from the future that great harm is coming your way. Similar things have happened, he didn't believe the warning and lost a good friend. Now he's willing to lose the love of his life to protect her.

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Girls

do you ever masturbate to like a favorite male celebrity or model even if you're in a relationship?

I really like my girlfriend a lot, but occasionally, there is a Russian model that I sometimes enjoy fapping to

>>17770418
>15 times a day.
>"darling" after one date

What a creep.

Tell him that he's ruined his chances with you by the way he's acted and that you have no desire to be with him. Make sure you emphasize how final this is.

>>17770444
It's a party, I groped her by mistake, thought she's my friend (whom I have sex with occasionally). Also I think she's mildly insane.

>>17770459
>I need to find a way of letting him down gently without making him hate me.

If someone can help you with that, awesome. So far, no girl has ever "let me down gently". It always makes you a little mad at the very least. And I'm more or less mentally stable.

I wish you the best of lucks, but beyond what I already said, to let people around you know so they pay attention and can help you, I can't add much more.

>>17770344
probably would've saved more face if you bailed after knowing she had a kid that she didn't mention, would've skirted the race thing altogether
>>17770434
i'd focus on getting your own mental health situation managed before trying to date. it will be more palatable to a potential partner if you let them know early on "hey, I've got ___ and ___, but i've been without an incident for a year now"

Either gender,

What is the difference between having sex with someone you don't love (fwb, flings) and someone you do love? Is it true that the sex is better with someone you love because of the emotional connection? Is that all it is, or is there more? If you were in love but someone was bad at sex, would it still trump sex with an experienced fling? What if you had a fwb who you constantly went to for sex; got familiar with each other's bodies and personal kinks. Would that still not be better than sex with love intertwined?

>>17770470

As I said, fringe case. Given OP's question, I wouldn't encourage him to grope girls or else we will make the people working/studying with him very unhappy.

>>17770478
tru ;(

>>17770476
you can probably raw-dog someone you love, but you should never raw-dog a fwb/ons
mediocre sex with someone you love is about equivalent to good sex with a stranger, if that means anything to you

>>17769836
>Is it a common for guys to believe that their gf/ex-gf will always be there for them,even in other relationships

No.

>>17769907
Should I simply tell girls I'm inexperienced to take off the pressure and aware them?

As someone who was in a similar position (social recluse who broke out of his shell. Decided fuck it one night at 24, and lost virginity to a one night stand).

Worked for me. But I also gave absolutely zero fucks at that point and was just like "She wants it? eh, why not." and I had not said anything, she wouldn't have known I was a virgin, nor did she really believe it for a bit afterwards (literally asked me if I was trying to mess with her or something).

Backstory though: Like a year prior, met someone who changed my life, fell in love for the first time, thought she was "the one", took a chance, had a moment of glory, then got my heart broken. After that I lost all sense of anxiety and fear when it came to women and did dating for the first time.

In my personal experience, if you've got confidence and don't act like a spaz, no one cares.

>>17770015
>would that mean that he still sees "us" not being over?

Possibly--probably even--but not a certainty. Either way, you worrying ain't going to do shit.

>>17770184
>Anyone, how do you get over rejection?
Grow tougher skin. Or realize failures are a potential for self improvement. Or stop giving a damn about what people think.

>>17770210
>How do you get over immense insecurity concerning sex and body image?
It's not just body image, if you're insecure about anything, work at it, HARD, and prove to yourself--with tangible, visible results--that your work is causing changes. Even if you don't fully believe in yourself, believe in that hard work.

>Body image of cared ones
Pretty much. Of course there are superficial exceptions too.

>Dating a smaller guy
Who gives a fuck. My girlfriend is taller and bigger than me. IDGAF IDGAF what anyone else says. I'm happy. All that matters to me.

>>17770464
Yeah, in a 3 year relationship and masturbate to cody cummings a lot, dunno if he counts as a celebrity. Also Brock O'Hurn, also barely a celebrity. My bf faps to Lolis (2D) and pics you shouldn't share on /b/ .

Doesn't affect our desire for each other. Does your gf do it to any celebs? Would it bother you?

>>17770499
lol are you gay

>>17770499
Nice dubs, this question is GENERAL.

How common is female masturbation? I've never masturbated and I've never heard any other male say they haven't ever. Is it the same with women? Most women have done it and do it regularly?

>>17770499

I wouldn't care if she masturbates to celebrity pictures. I mean everyone has celebrity crushes. I don't see any harm with it.

>>17770469
Thanks, although being that blunt might trigger more sinister stalking.

>>17770471
Thanks for the advice. I think you're right, there's no easy way I can think of. Maybe there's a way to make him lose interest in me.

I think I will just not reply tonight and see what the reaction is tomorrow.

>>17770509
I don't think I'm a regular female. I was humping my teddy bears legs before I was 6, when I discovered porn it was 4-5 times a day.

It's at least twice a day now, not because I want to anymore, just because I get unbearably horny and can't focus. Sometimes have to do it in the toilets at work, I feel pretty gross about that.

Girls

when you finger yourself, does it hurt with you having long finger nails? Doesn't that poke your insides?

>>17770418
>Is he just a regular guy who likes me?

No chance of this.

All you can do is let him down softly but firmly, like a "Hey, listen, I don't know if you've read more in to this than I have, but to be honest, you seem like a cool guy, but we really don't have much in common so I'm not really interested. It was nice to meet you and I hope you have a great one"

Or some bullshit like that.

And then watch your back and be prepared to bring photographic evidence and whatnot (if it's legal in your state) to be ready to file a restraining order.

>>17770434
>Should someone with social anxiety and depression date? Or would it be too much for the partner?

It's not that you shouldn't, but more that your priorities should always be on your self improvement.

Getting a partner will NOT change your situation.

It is NOT a magic bullet for anything.

If you try to treat it as one, you shouldn't be in one.

>>17770476
>What is the difference between having sex with someone you don't love (fwb, flings) and someone you do love?

Level of intimacy (you can still be passionate and intimate in a fling, but it's a different kind), familiarity, trust, reciprocity.

Having had one night stands/flings and FWBs (with my best friend even)

FWB sex is different than relationships sex.

It's often selfish and self-serving. The same is true of by far the vast majority of one night stands and flings.

There are exceptions, but that is the norm and everyone is different

P.S. one of my by far best sexual experiences was in a one night stand, that was also one of the most vanilla and least technically skilled experiences I've ever had. Like I said, there always exceptions.

>>17770509
I did it once out of sheer boredom and didn't really enjoy it. That was in 2011

>>17770499
>Brock O'Hurn
lol this guy helps me a lot with my self image. Now I don't worry about my look anymore and hits on whatever chick I find most attractive.

>>17770545
Stalker prob here. This advice is really helpful, thanks. I think your tactic of complimenting him might just keep it amicable.

>>17770372
I think its funny they're jumping to the race card honestly, because most people would react the way you did regardless of the kids race. The fact is kids are not something you surprise a date with by taking them to your place and meeting the baby sitter. People will generally walk out at that point.

>>17770581

That's "bigotry" for you. Doesn't always make sense.

>>17770534
I masturbate but never finger myself

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>>17770592

I'm guessing for that reason?

I ask because I'm a guy, but I'm cursed with femanine fingers... the skin doesn't over lap the nail at the end. so even when I trim them all the way down. You can still feel the nail. I don't know if me fingering girls hurts them or not

Guys:

Would buying my long term bf of six years facial wash or beard conditioning items for Christmas be too basic of a holiday gift?

I always thought like any kind of "grooming" gift is just a default gift. Would you like it or expect something a little more personal?

I pried him quite a bit for what he wants, but he said to just get him whatever since our anniversary is right before christmas, and we will be doing a lot for that event.

>>17770856
>Would buying my long term bf of six years facial wash or beard conditioning items for Christmas be too basic of a holiday gift?

Nah.

But then again I guess it depends on you guys.

Personally, I know I'd generally prefer small gifts and big spending spent on things like trips and special experiences vs material things in general.

How many of you would murder a useless gook just because there's that many sub human trash wasting resources on this planet?

>+1 for murdering these ugly scum

Recently I've been getting close with a girl. It took a while but she seems receptive to me about a week ago and started to drop hints.

I want to ask her out but I'm out of state for another 2 weeks. Should I ask over the phone or wait till I get back and do it in person?

PS: shes out of a relationship about a month ago. Would the extra 2 weeks make it easier on her?

>>17770491
>
Backstory though: Like a year prior, met someone who changed my life, fell in love for the first time, thought she was "the one", took a chance, had a moment of glory, then got my heart broken. After that I lost all sense of anxiety and fear when it came to women and did dating for the first time.
holy fuck dude, just described my 2016. Even ended up fucking a random girl this summer and going on a second date with an even cuter girl this weekend! Getting your heart broken is definitely an experience everyone should have, even though it sucks.

>>17770936
>Would the extra 2 weeks make it easier on her?
Depends if she's taking it hard or not. Either way, she's either ready to date or she isn't. 2 weeks can mean everything or nothing.
>Should I ask over the phone or wait till I get back and do it in person?
I mean, it's kinda fruitless to ask her out when you can't actually, you know, go out. But, time is of the essence. Every minute you wait is every minute someone else could hypothetically be making a move. If she is actually into you though, then it should be fine.
Idk, I'm tit for tat on that one. Theres benefits to both waiting and acting now.

>>17770534
Like, those inch-long fake nails? Uh, yes. Just thinking about it makes me cringe.

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>>17770907
Only if I'm gonna fuck him to death, Asian men are god tier ;)

Do girls find really chatty men attractive?

I'm a really chatty guy but I find when I stop talking and just let a girl dominate the conversation, she enjoys herself more. Even more girlfriend acts more warm to me when I keep quiet.

>>17770626
I've only been fingered once, but it was by a virgin who wasn't aware of proper nail care. Felt like wolverine was finger fucking me. Never again.

I'd say as long as you keep it trimmed though you should be fine, but if they say something or look uncomfortable then maybe ask? Communication is key in sex mate.

>>17770534
I get nothing out of penetration so I don't ever masturbate that way, since it kinda defeats the purpose, but I would assume most chicks who go and get expensive manicures like you're thinking of aren't going to risk ruining it and will probably just opt for a toy in its place.
I'm a filthy nail biter with no nail at all though, the like, 2 times in my life I did try to finger myself to try to force myself to like penetration the nail wasn't what bothered me. Just the pain from stretching.

I really like this girl but shes 17 and i'm 24

I dont want people to find out about this and im def not gonna make a move til shes 18 (6 months)

What do? how do I get her to stick around and keep her mouth shut?

>>17770464
I mean, is that really any different from just watching porn while in a relationship? You aren't fucking them so I don't see the problem. I'm single af right now but when I was in a relationship I still watched porn, and so did he, and neither one of us cared.
It might be different if you were like, fapping to my bff or something lol.

>>17771042
Well, idk, I'm usually a pretty good listener and not much of a talker, but I've also grown up all my life with a family that has no regard for actual conversation and taking turns. In my house, if you're not screaming over someone just to get a word in, you're not conversing. It's always been a pet peeve of mine ever since, so I wouldn't like a dude like that either, who completely takes over the "conversation" and just jabbers on forever without taking a breath or allowing me to say anything.
I'd suggest finding a balance. If you feel like you've been talking too long, or you haven't heard their voice in a while, I'd just finish your sentence and then pause. Conversations take 2 people, otherwise you're just talking to air. Other thing is, make sure you're listening and not just waiting for your next turn to talk (if that applies to you. I'll admit, I'm just kinda airing some of the bad habits my parents have at this point)
TL;DR, be somewhere in between. Don't take over the conversation, and don't let her either.

Anyone, but mostly guys,
Could you date someone you could not fuck? Oral and junk is still on the table though. Open relationship is likely not a solution.

>in b4 some do some don't
I know, I just wanna hear some people's thoughts on it.

>>17771096
Can I ask why that would be the case?

>>17771096
I wouldn't have a future with them. I'd probably go about 2-3 months max without sex in the relationship, before I left.

>>17771042
Guy here.

No, absolutely not. Silence is golden for men. Only say what you need to and deliver it well.

>>17771105
Physical incapability, like vaginismus or ED but say treatment aint working.
>>17771128
understandable, you wouldn't be able to get by on oral or like second base alone i assume.

>>17771148
Well, my personal opinion isn't very helpful because I'm a Christian, so I wouldn't be interested in a relationship with you for other reasons, but I'd be highly surprised if there aren't men out there who'd get over it if everything else were equal. Also, there are men who don't have high libidos, you know, despite what people think.

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Girls

Would you date someone who looked like chad, but had chronic depression? Girls keep making passes to me... I don't want to be alone anymore, but I don't want to submit anyone to my sadness.

I don't know what to do.

>>17771159
And that's certainly fair, assuming you're implying you'd want kids. I can get how that can be something dealbreaking, regardless of religion.
However, I don't want to have kids anyway, even if I could lol. So I suppose I didn't immediately think of that factor because it was already a given in my mind I won't be having children anyway.
> Also, there are men who don't have high libidos,
This is true, I've just seen some sort of high value on that particular form of sex (which I'll admit makes biological sense, even among those who don't necessarily fuck only to procreate). Even dudes who have low libidos get turned off by the idea of vaginal being off the table for the rare occasion they do want to get it on.

>>17771184
not a girl but i think you should attempt with someone. get to know them, make sure they are def interested, get a little closer. then at some point you need to have a serious conversation with them. what they want out of the relationship. do they just want to fuck? or are they looking for something serious? or do they just want something not too serious but to see where it goes?

then make it clear that if they want to go into something serious they have to be okay with the fact that you are sad as fuck and it's not always easy being with someone depressed.

idk. that's what i would do. i give people fair warning that i don't make much money and i'm depressed and anxious and overall shitty. i still get with people tho.

>>17771184
Looks get you in the door, personality makes someone stay. So probably not.
A relationship will not magically fix your lonliness or depression. You're right in thinking it's possible you'll just drag someone else down. However, it's also possible you wont.
But I'd still highly suggest you start to become happy with yourself individually first. Because more than likely, your sadness will still remain, you'll become skeptical and/or paranoid of your partner and their commitment to you, and just beat yourself up even more for "not being a better boyfriend" or whatever.
As someone who's been in your shoes, adding a relationship to your life won't actually make you feel less lonely, it'll actually probably make you lonelier than ever.

>>17771064
Thanks for the response. I definitely enjoy conversing which includes listening, though I'll admit I do talk more than listen.

But maybe >>17771137 is right. From recent experience, seems like when I act more calm and curb the endless chatter, I don't exhaust my girlfriend quite so much.

>>17771191
You've caught me wrong.

I wouldn't spurn a woman I loved because she couldn't produce children, far from it. If I loved a woman, and she couldn't have children, that'd be fine - she's not an incubator- and I'd be more than happy to live a good life with her. I assumed from the fact that oral and so forth are on the table that you're not religious and, therefore, that a relationship wouldn't work for those reasons. I'm not trying to be insulting, and I hope you don't take offence, but I reckon you'd prefer candour.

As I say, if everything else were equal, it wouldn't be a problem for me, and the reasons I wouldn't be interested aren't related to the issue you mentioned.

>>17771200
Well obviously my go-to is to just pretend I'm fine. Which is what I do anyway, to everyone. It's what I've done in some past relationships.

It just makes me miserable and fucks me up even more inside, but I'm willing to do it. I just don't want to be dishonest anymore.

>>17771196
I think I'm just going to pretend, like I have in the past. That's my only choice.

Where do i find a girl who loves me for who i am, a NEET?

>>17771264
guy here.

i'll cut to the chase for you

1. get rid of vidya
2. get rid of porn
3. get fit
4. get a job
5. practice being outgoing, get rejected a bunch, keep trying
6. ???
7. profit

>>17771269
But that's not what i asked.

>>17771284
The answer to your original question is you won't.

>>17771289
Well fuck that then.

>>17771284
>>17771291
You must be a leftist.

>>17771291
>>17771284
what a pathetic excuse for a human being. I hope to god I'm not paying for your welfare.

>>17770856
Yes. Can't you really come up with anything better after 6 years?

>>17770907
Murdering him would waste resources too. Besides, most Asians don't even consume a tiny bit of what first world faggots do.

>>17771042
Balance, motherfucker. Generally, most people like being listened to instead of listening.

>>17771058
Leave her the fuck alone and find somebody closer to your age.

>>17771096
If they are super awesome otherwise, sure. Why is open relationshit not a solution?

>>17771264
A NEET artist (and the likes) or a NEET gaymer/anime and chips consumer?

Why do women lie about being raped.

>Fuck I love you
>I really do
what did she mean by this?

>>17771327
various forms of attention, possibly social or financial gain, as a weapon against the accused, fun and amusement
i cant think of any more

Hello friends,

For the past month or two or so I've been asking for help because I started dating a girl. Well, the girl abruptly broke up with me and it's made me realize I need time for myself so I'm not going to date for a few months. That and when I do date, I need to be more distanced and objective.

Thanks for all the help guys. Until next time.

>>17771096
I could as opposed of not getting anything.

From a guy to a girl, are there any do's and don't sad far as sliding in the DM's? I'm more of an "in person" type but the person I want to hit up doesn't go to my school & I only have contact with her through Twitter and IG

My girlfriend has a pretty good figure and big tits. She doesn't wear slutty clothes but they are pretty noticeable even in a high neck t-shirt. Today when we were out I noticed a few times some seedy men would blatantly stare as we'd walk past. I'd stare them off and when they realized I noticed they'd look away. I got pretty annoyed with it when it happened a second time and as we walked past the guy I shoulder checked him (he didn't say anything he just put his head down and kept walking).

I feel like I should have called the first guy out rather than just stare at him. Is it something to get annoyed over or should I just get used to it? (men obviously staring at your gf tits as you walk past)

>>17771466
>shoulder checking a guy for looking at her

That's really cringy and autistic t.bh

Unless they say something disrespectful or touch her, just ignore them

>>17771466
Unless they do it in a way that's totally inappropriate (as in literally starring and drooling), you'd come of as pretty cray if you do anything.

>>17771472
>>17771473
I have had anger issues in the past, getting in fights over petty things (boxing etc became a good outlet for it). I wouldn't really mind if they were just checking her out (its a compliment desu) but these 2 people today were blatantly staring as we walked passed them (to the point they turned their head to keep looking)

>>17771482
>(to the point they turned their head to keep looking)
That's fucking creepy but there is still nothing you can do that would improve the situation. Which sucks but yeah.

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There was a girl in high school I wouldn't say I was friends with, but was acquaintances with. We knew each other, she complimented my shirt once. Common interests. Haven't seen her since, separate ways and all that.

I know she has a Skype, she doesn't know I have one. I haven't talked to her at all since last year, and that was just because we had an after-school activity together. I liked her, but wouldn't mind just being friends. Should I out-of-the-blue add her to open up communication?

How should I approach this as to not appear creepy? Go for it? Or leave her alone?

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>>17770562
I wish I knew how to tie my manbun like he does.

>>17771498
I just got pretty angry when I noticed he turned his head as we were passing so that when I shoulder checked him. Probably is cringe but couldn't help myself and it did make him stop looking.

>>17771269
>get rid of vidya
I still have trouble getting into this one. I already consume a stupid amount of books every month and I have yet to find another hobby that remotely interests me.

Was talking to a female friend and she says she hates small penises and that its not her fault, but shes really deep down there. She says she only gets off when guy hits the back and she can fit an 8" dildo.
Now the catch here is that Im actually 8". A little longer when max about to blow load erection but a little shorter at like cold 90% erection.
How do I use this to turn our relationship into friends with benefits. We've been friends for a long time, and we kissed once like years ago, but neither of us are interested in each other. But man do I want a blowjob.

I want to know how to make sex better for my boyfriend/how to fuck him as opposed to him fucking me if that makes sense.
Usually I just let him do whatever he wants to me and that works out pretty well for us but I can tell sometimes he gets tired and I think it's hard for him to cum sometimes because he's focusing so much on making me feel good.
I want to let him lie back and let me do the work but I'm really self conscious about doing something wrong/not actually being able to make him feel good but he plays along anyway.
Like for example when I kiss/bite his neck he starts to moan and I can tell it turns him on but then I get self conscious and usually laugh and stop.

What kind of things would you want a girl to do during sex? How do I ride him and make him feel good?

>>17771567
Step 1. Do simmering you enjoy
Step 2. There is no step 2
Seriously just get on top and do whatever makes you feel good. That will probably be more than adequate if he really is into making you feel good. Because your arousal will arouse him and he will thus enjoy it regardless.

Will she ever come back?

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>>17771575
Only when she's the one to end it and you're living your life well past the relationship you used to have.

>>17771567
>What kind of things would you want a girl to do during sex?
Tell me to pound her harder. Riding will never feel as good for the guy.

Hey, shitty part-timer here. I started working at this place like 1 year ago with pretty laid back management. We get to chill for the most part of our shifts. Probably 7 months back now we hire this chick, 7/10. Well I end up sharing a lot of my shifts with her and end up showing her how we go about doing things. We'll fast forward from that time to like 4 months and I start developing feelings for her. I eventually do tell her and she rejects me. She gives me some bs about still being in some relationship with her ex or something. That she feels "flattered", etc. In all honesty I'm okay with this since I finally got that off my chest. The thing that bothers me the most is that she started blatantly ignoring me. Anything I can do to remedy the situation? At least to the point where we can still talk comfortably or is there no way back?

>>17771602
What about when he literally can't pound me any harder? He'll go hard and fast for a while but then has to slow down/change positions to something easier.
Should I maybe start riding him first and then let him fuck me when he wants to go faster/wants to cum?

Also, would you want to be seduced by a girl/have the girl initiate sex or rather start it yourself?

>>17771606
Id love having the girl initiate sex. When Im the one who always has to do it, it feels like shes just doing me a favor and isnt really interested in sex. Being proactive in sex makes it more fun because I know she wants it as much as I do.
My gf plays with my dick all the time when we are alone and is always wet. Pretty sexy desu and it means foreplay isnt really necessary.

>>17771604
>The thing that bothers me the most is that she started blatantly ignoring me. Anything I can do to remedy the situation? At least to the point where we can still talk comfortably or is there no way back?

You're fucked m8. She's devoted to that ex and thinks you're just a creepy shitter now. Give up.

How do I tell if a girl is waiting for me to make a move?

God I've never felt so oblivious.

>Father brought some property like a decade ago
>A few years ago we bulldozed the house and built a new one together. He uses the bottom floor as storage mostly, second floor unused
>He's suggested renting it out to me since he has no use for it and it would save me money

Do you think a woman would look down on this? As it were I have already received a lot of support from my parents such as help with college tuition and an ex said it implied bad things about me. I'm already leaning towards accepting the offer but I have no idea how people would generally view someone in this position.

>>17771816
Well, obviously you had a pretty easy life compared to most people but if you still accomplished some things by yourself and most importantly, are a decent person, it's not a big deal.

Girls

If your bf asked you to dress up as something in bed (nurse, school girl, maid etc) what would you wanna dress up as?

Do women actually exist outside bars and clubs? I'm not into that at all and my hobbies are all active things (water sports, biking, most things involving cold and mud) which I have never seen a women involved with.... Ever

Girls

What are indicators that my gf isn't interested in me anymore? I'm afraid she doesn't care anymore

>>17771879
schoolgirl

Ladies
Quiet, shy, women are often very sweet to me.

Can you explain this?

>>17771815
make a move
>>17771879
french maid

>>17771895
Well, yes.
Your hobbies are pretty much male-only, but of course women have hobbies and do other things other than drinking in bars. what they do, depends on the woman.

Guys, how bad is it if a girl is the ugly sister? Is it reason enough to end a relationship or to avoid dating them? Let's say the girl isn't bad looking herself, just ugly compared to her sister (a 7 compared to a 10). The sister in question is in a relationship an not available.

>>17771879
her little sister

>>17770344
>she deserves better....

Tell them to go find the guy that nailed her and bailed

>>17770344
well it is racism, could've been a bit more subtle about it no?
no matter, woman or men with kids is a bother to deal with, might as well walk out really, dodging a bullet there

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>>17771934
lol are you my gf
And no it's not that bad. As far as I know the sister is nice to look at, like the statue of Venus, to be admired from afar but after actually having sex with it you realized your real gf is better because there's an emotional connection, and she doesn't have this cold arrogance aura of woman who takes pride in their look.

>>17771934
>Let's say the girl isn't bad looking herself
This is the important part. As long you're good looking yourself and have an emotional connection with somebody, it's irrelevant if your sister is even better looking. Bet there are tons of people who look at least just as good as her, who cares.

Guys,

I'm a morning person, unlike my bf. Usually on weekends I get bored in the morning, so I'm considering baking something nice and turning up at my bfs place around noon to surprise him with food. Is this a good idea/something you'd like your gf to do, or is it too intrusive to turn up unannounced?

>>17771956
that's very nice. Often I wake up with positive spirit and a boner so gf's timely service would be much appreciated. Too bad she's a lazy cunt.

>>17771956
If he likes surprises it's a good idea. I would hate it though.

>>17771956
I'd like it. I would probably tell him you are coming over the night before but not explain why.

>>17771210
Ah I see, you're right I am not well versed in religion. Didn't know oral was sinful or something lol. I suppose theres that line about not spilling thy seed or whatever, but I suppose that's what I got the children thing from, since you're only supposed to "use thy seed" to make children, or something like that, though typically that line is used to advise against masturbation more than anything in my experience. Again though, I'm completely ignorant on the bible so I could be talking out my ass all together in that interpretation.
But, to each their own, I'm not offended at all there friend. I totally respect everyone in religious matters so long as they're not like, forcing it on me and whatnot and respectful, which you certainly have been. Totally understandable to not want to date outside your faith.
>>17771318
I don't believe it's possible to "share" lol. I don't think hardly anyone at all can truly separate the physical from emotional. Usually, they'll always end up catching feelings and leaving the other person.
Plus I mean, from my perspective, why would anyone choose someone like me? The other chick can do everything I can, love you and care for you, but with the added benefit of being fuckable. Why wouldn't you choose the better model for the same price, you know?

>>17771956
>too intrusive
You're his fucking girlfriend and not just some person. Besides you can announce that you might come the day before.

I am not much into baked stuff but the general idea is good.

>>17771956
Best-girlfriend-ever tier.

>>17771973
Assuming i can get the better model.

>met a girl, chatted, got along
>asked for her facebook, sent her a request
>she didnt accept, 2 weeks go by
>randomly ran into her again, chat for a little while
>she says she didnt notice my friend request (not sure if she was being ironic) and that she'd accept me
>2 days go by and she still hasn't
Should I forget about her? And yah I know I should have asked for her number instead.
She seemed cool the first time I met her but more deadpan the second time.

>>17771895
Basically what the other person said, you have rather gender stereotypical hobbies, which isn't a bad thing, but yeah, you're not likely to run into very many women within it. Not impossible though either.

Here's the thing, there's women all around you. You probably see at least a dozen of em every day provided you actually leave your house. Where your misconception of "women only exist in bars and clubs" comes from, is the fact that those are the only socially acceptable places to actually hit on said women. Sucks, but that's the structure we've made it out to be.

The other way to get a gf though, is to do the f part first. That means you're going to have to go out with with goal of making friends first, not dates, friends, that can possibly grow into something else. It also possibly can't, which is where the r9k neckbeards get hung up on, they're scared of putting in all that effort for something that could only maybe work in their favor. But they're also not following the first advice of actually looking for friends first and always have the relationship goal set in their sights. At least if you make friends, even if it doesn't work out on the dating scale, hey, you came out with a friend at the end of the day and you're not truly alone right?

The only way you can really combat that fact is through online dating, or having a friend hook you up. It's known right off the bat you're interested in a relationship, and you just have to work from there. I personally don't like such set ups because they seem too artificial to me, but could work fine for you.

TL;DR, my suggestion is to look into online dating if the bar scene aint your schtick, have a friend hook you up if possible, or trying some new hobbies that are more feminine or gender neutral to increase your odds of meeting someone through a (possible) mutual interest.

This guy I love told me that he is not ready for a relationship yet, explaining that he is really busy with education and has no energy whatsoever for a relationship and he doent know for how much time it will be this way. He told me he loves me and cares but well, i'm just confused now.

Should I give him time and wait or should I just move on and stop contacting him at all?

>>17771984
Do you really like her that much?
If so look up her home address, buy flowers and knock on her door.

>>17771993
Well I only met her twice so I can't really judge her. I thought she was great the first time. Do I sound like I'm caring way too much?
Idk if she's busy or doesn't use facebook but I guess if she didn't accept my FR it means she's not interested in me at all which is making me lose interest in her too.

>>17771879
School girl
>its my fetish
>>17771816
I wouldn't care. I live in the exact same position 2bh. Dad pays for my college expenses, got sick of paying thousands of dollars for room and board so I can live in a shitty bug infested cubicle crammed in with another human being, found out it was cheaper to buy a fixer upper house in the area than to spend 5 years room and board. Bought a house, fixed it up, rented out the other 2 rooms in it to college students, their rent pays my living expenses. Basically I'm living there for free while I go to school, and when I'm done with it he'll sell it likely for a slight profit, but a large profit compared to what he would be paying at the college.

Anyway, I don't think its bad at all to accept a generous offer. I suppose it depends how old you are though. Are you still in school or a fresh graduate? Because that's chill. It's only ok to take handouts, even if graciously offered, for so long. If you're like 27 and been out of school for years but still don't have a good job or something then yeah it kinda looks like you're just mooching off your parents. But hell you said he'd be "renting" it to you, so that implies you're not even getting a free ride.
But my only thing about dudes living on parents dimes are dudes living /with/ parents. I will never fuck a dude in his parents house. Just won't do it, won't risk them accidentally walking in on us or hearing us. I'd basically have to hang myself in shame lmao.
Sounds like this is your own place though, dad's not living there with you, you're just getting a cheap roof over your head. Nothing wrong with that in my book. Think your ex was just salty.

>>17771973
>I don't believe it's possible to "share"
>Why wouldn't you choose the better model for the same price, you know?
You seem to have a quite materialistic approach to it.

Pretty much every person can DO the same things, specially something as general as loving and caring for their SO, and let's assume you're both just as attractive, the big difference would be still HOW you do all of this and how you connect on an emotional level with all your experiences, quirks, beliefs, motivations and whatever the fuck else. It's a messy list where feelz rule and the other chick might not have such a strong chemistry, so while being fuckable will be obviously a plus, it will not be enough to make her as good of a fit as you are.

As for "sharing"; the whole thing is even more complex and prolly too big for the thread; is it really mandatory to completely separate the physical from emotional? Relationshits are not that different from the average friendship and most people manage to love multiple friends or a sibling just fine, obviously it's a different kind of love compared to a SA but it's different from friend to friend too. Doing a friend or two doesn't have to lower your feelings for another.

>>17772004
>Is it fair to say that if he hasn't broken up with her by the New Year, I should pack my heart back up and start working on moving on?
Naw, should start with the moving on thing right away. Shit sounds like a disaster in the making for your daughter and his other kid.

>>17771815
If you have to ask, she probably is. I know for me, when I want to make a move, I basically make it goddamn painfully obvious and give him every perfect opportunity to do so.
>inb4 "no it's not painfully obvious not 2 us goies"
It is. Trust me, if you have to use that line then you're beyond help because there does come a point where you will only misinterpret these passes if you are just completely inconfident and/or retarded.

One example, when I want a date, I constantly remind or let the guy I'm interested in know my availability.
"Man, I'm so glad I'm off work Saturday. Wish I had something to do though."
"School breaks coming up, X date through X date, idk what I'll do the whole time. I'll be so bored sitting around doing nothing."
That would be your cue to pipe in with "Oh, if you're free wanna do something together?"

>>17771991
>This guy I love told me that he is not ready for a relationship yet, explaining that he is really busy with education and has no energy whatsoever for a relationship and he doent know for how much time it will be this way
wtf are you serious?

that sounds a lot like me. But I just feel crushed by the gigantic structure of my field because I don't have enough confidence, I'm in a top grad school and society has certain expectation of me and my peers, that we will do something amazing when we graduate. I don't think I'm as skilled as my friends. I'm afraid that I would never be able to contribute something meaningful to mathematics like my predecessors who put their faith in me. It's a daunting thought that if I don't try harder I just wasted so many years of my youth. It is nice that I have a fwb though. She really helped me through depression.

So maybe it will work out you are ok with being his sexual release?

>>17772018
I don't think this is "painfully obvious".

Also, stop playing games. I don't have the patience for girls who try to manipulate me into some action instead of just making a move themselves.

I have a crush on a girl, but I'm afraid of talking to her. I'd probably push through and just start chatting with her, but honestly I'm not sure if I remember her name correctly. She is in one of my classes and the semester is almost over, yet I only have an educated guess at her name. She talks to her friend in front of her all the time, so its hard to just bring jump into the conversation without it coming off as forced, and its even harder to get her attention without really knowing her name. I feel like just saying "hey" would be awkward as hell.

What should I do in this situation? We only have a couple classes left together, and my personal goal of getting her number (if she seemed enthusiastic about me) by the end of the semester seems impossible now. Should I just take the plunge and attempt a conversation anyway?

>>17772016
Perhaps, but I suppose we just have different feelings on it. Love comes in many forms, yes, but that certain breed of love to me is not something I'd want shared. Because think about your friendship analogy, yeah I have many friends. But there's one friend I see almost daily, and quite a few that I'll put on the back burner. I don't wanna feel like I'm second best in romantic love. I don't have the best self esteem, I'll admit that's probably where the feeling of inadequacy is, but I feel like I'll end up being that "back burner" girlfriend if he's got multiple. I won't get the time I'd want with him if he's juggling too many girls. Like I've seen that sister wives show lol, now that's an extreme example with polygamy sure, but the one thing I think of every time I see that show (and the wives have confirmed this thought through comments made on the show) is mainly how unfair it is to the kids, because it's just not possible for one man to split his attention between 20 kids and do everything else life demands from ya. But the same applies to the wives too. They've mentioned before how he seems to have a "favorite wife", and I don't believe he can really give every single one of his wives the attention they deserve.

So I think it would be similar to that. The more chicks he's dealing with, the more likely it is that I could be one of the "less favorite" girlfriends and he won't make time for me. You're right though, theoretically I could be the "favorite", but it's a game of chance that my personality meshes with his in such a perfect way that no other girl could ever possibly be better than me, and its a chance game I have low probability in winning given the amount of people in the world.
Sure, even in a monogamous relationship he could just dump me for someone more compatible, but I just personally feel that as a better ending than just sitting around in purgatory waiting for him to make time for me, not even knowing where we really stand.

>>17772033
>games
>literally waving around "I AM AVAILABLE"
No wonder so many guys here struggle getting a date. It's basic communication.

>>17772038
I, personally, do much better when I dont have a goal.
Just talk to her

>>17772042
You are available doesn't mean you want the guy to ask you out. A lot of girls say they are available and get mad when they get asked out. Are you autistic?

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>>17772042
I know right lmao.
Like if you don't want to be the one to make a move, then thats totally fine. But you can't bitch when you never get anywhere.
To me, that scenario is pretty give and take. I'm doing half the work, he does the other half, rather than one of us literally having to put 100% of the effort into it. I don't want to do all of the work, if I have to then that just tells me he's not that interested.

what are the dos and donts of making a move on a girl?

I know shes in to me

>>17772047
Expecting the guy to ask you out is not doing half the work. Not saying you shouldn't expect him to, just saying it's not "half" the work.

>>17772042
If you were 'literally' waving around "I AM AVAILABLE" you would actually say those exact words. And even then, that doesn't necessarily mean "i am available in to you" or "i am available in a romantic capacity"

>>17772044
I feel like that is the only option, but I'm just worried I'll fuck things up by going about it in a very awkward way. Once it starts off awkwardly, its very hard for me to recover.

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>>17772046
The girls that send mixed messages like that are the autistic ones and should not be taken as the norm. Because they aren't.
So one tumbtard feminist made a scene for attention when a dude asked her out after baiting him into doing so, out of the literal millions of women who do the exact same thing and stand by their intent.

And in all honesty, with the situation given, "wanna do something" is the safest, vaguest thing in the world. It can be a date, it can be hanging out as friends. If she gets all pissy and in your face about how dare u mysoggykneestic pig gaze upon my rolls and think I want 2 date u!!11
You can just say "Woah, assuming much? Just wanted to be friends but I'm not into you like that." (provided you don't just laugh at her and walk way, which is the correct thing to do in such a situation). Boom, now the humiliation is on her and not you.

been talking to thus girl for a while and find out she has had 23 partners throughout her life (started freshman year of college through the end of senior year so about 4 years) and Ive only had about 6. Shes 22 and I'm 21 but she wants to start a relationship with me. Its not as if shes a cheater she said she just "really liked sex" and only messed around with her friends and never randoms. Should I just run away from this chick or do the amount of past partners not matter?

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>>17772051
Me saying nothing and not showing any interest at all is doing nothing. What would you say half the work is then friendo? And truly half, so he has to actually, you know, do something too?
>>17772055
So where does your role play then? If she has to be the one to ask YOU out without you showing any signs of interest, then you're not really putting any effort into it at all?
I refer back to
>there does come a point where you will only misinterpret these passes if you are just completely inconfident and/or retarded.

>>17772047
>>17772042
>guys are so stupid can't take a hint that i like them
maybe they just don't like you back?

>>17772060
Let me put it like this: The amount of past partners *shouldn't* matter.

Girls what is your opinion on poetry (not cheesy diabetes inducing ones) and leaving notes in general? I kinda liked leaving notes and sweet messages to my Ex and she liked, but never tried it with anyone else. And I mean, occasionally. Not every fucking day. And what would you think of it when you are meeting someone? Not So romantic but simply shit like "I liked going out with you, we should do it again etc etc"

>>17772060
Honestly, if those partners were full blown relationships, that would be a red flag. But if she is just having casual sex with dudes she barely knows but is willing to commit to you, then it "shouldn't" really matter.

>>17772060
>she just "really liked sex" and only messed around with her friends and never randoms
wife material

>>17772061
There's no "half the work", there's no way to do "half". The person asking the other person out is the one doing more than half the work. The other person, either doing nothing or dropping hints is doing less than half the work.

>>17772063
I never implied they didn't. But that's exactly my point. When I let them know I'm available and they don't make a move, that's my assumption they aren't interested. No biggie, I don't care there's tons more out there. Some do take the damn hint and aren't literally pissing their pants about the idea of possibly getting turned down that make a date as well.

I'm basically saying exactly that, when you sit around and do nothing at all, you can't cry when the other person thinks "Oh they must not like me" and moves on. And the same applies to fucking men too, if you don't do anything you can't piss and moan.

>>17772067
>>17772064
..but it does?? is that what you are implying

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>mfw people are so insecure about how many guys their SO has slept with

>>17772070
Well, agree to disagree. I don't want to be in a onesided relationship where its all 100% my responsibility to do literally everything. I don't think it's all or nothing on one person's end. That's never been what realtionships have been about lmao.

>>17772076
Some people want actual relationships.

>>17772069
im guessing thats sarcasm

>>17772075
I'm assuming you are thinking "it won't bother me, she's special" but it will.

>>17772079
>you can only have one or the other

k bae, that's how the real world works

>>17772046
If a chick drops something so obvious to YOU, it's quite clear she wants YOU to ask her out. Specially if she repeats it. I am not even a girl and wouldn't call myself especially social but that's just pure basics like your friend talking about some concert for weeks and bitching that he doesn't have the money, and got a birthday around that time.

>>17772047
Eh, I wouldn't say it's quite 50-50 since the guy is still "risking" a rejection but it's a lot more even than doing all the work and a pretty decent deal.

>>17772055
> "i am available in to you" or "i am available in a romantic capacity"
Well, only one way to find that out. Besides, given your history and the way she said it, it's not that hard to make a solid guess.

>>17772041
Well, I do get you not wanting to become "wife #3" or the less extreme forms of it and that not knowing where one stands with their SO is pretty damn shitty, doubt most people would be cool with that, unless they go another partner and it all becoming a huge fuckfest. Though usually one can agree on basics like that at the start. Anyway, not trying to sell you open relationships, jus' offering another viewpoint.

>and its a chance game I have low probability in winning given the amount of people in the world.
Well, not like either of you will even meet 1% of them. Finding the right person if both of you have some kind of standards is always quite a gamble.

>>17772076
hahaha I know right

>>17772066
Examples of what I left.
>mentions she likes obscene practices such as hand holding
>slip a note saying "My hands are happy to finally have found someone else to talk with"
It is prettier in my language but still.

>>17772061
I don't have a 'role'. Neither does she. If i'm not showing any signs of interest, why is she trying to make passes at me in the first place?

>>17772076
So true ;((
I wouldn't care about how many guys one of my girls slept with.

>>17771327
>>17771341
I can think of one more, but might fall under "social gain" I guess, but I would think it more as "social recovery" than "gain".
Since it's still morally wrong for women to have and enjoy sex to a lot of people, some do it in order to save face when caught. Can't call a rape victim a slut right?

Not saying it's right, but that's one more reason.

>>17772080
what sarcasm? a girl never fucks randoms is a nice girl.

>>17772087
Maybe just stick with not writing poems?

>>17772085
>If a chick drops something so obvious to YOU, it's quite clear she wants YOU
Well I'm gonna assume it's a different culture thing because from my experience, 2 girls who did that "I'm available on X day" thing didn't appreciate me asking them out.

>>17772087
You gotta first find out if they are into it. Oh and you have to be really good, otherwise it's full cringe.

>>17772100
>>17772097
Kek I'm a shit poet, but a good reader. Never wrote or plan on doing anything myself.

>>17772075
It usually does, emotionally, for most people. As demonstrated by the fact that you felt the need to ask the question in the first place.

Rationally, it's just a thing you have to get over.

Past partners may or may not be an indication of personality, but that in it self does not say anything about the current relationship towards you.

>>17772100
Not that anon but has anyone ever tried to be cringey to get the girl? like just to see how she would react? In my experience it was very amusing and I got laid in the end, which is like 40% out of pity I think.

>>17772099
Did they say that specifically to you or just threw it into the room (or the social media equivalent)?

Sounds pretty bizarre to tell it to a person just like that and not wanting them to initiate.

>>17772085
see>>17772057
Even if you are "risking rejection", I've built in a very important safeguard for your ego.
>>17772091
Then why are you even a part of this conversation? Obviously she wouldnt be making passes if she knew you weren't interested. But someone has to show the "sign" of interest first, so even so, that's her way of probing you to see if you even are interested. Again, if you ignore those statements, she's going to assume you aren't interested and move on. Everyone wins. What I was saying is if you are interested, but don't act upon her signs of interest, you can't bitch when you never reciprocated to express interest back.

>>17772109
Anon who asked about poems here. I do that, but only for giggles. I can't imagine myself doing it seriously. But laughs are good too.

Are some dudes afraid of girls with many partners because they think a less experienced girl won't realize how shit they are in bed?

Both,
Advice on wedding songs?
I'm really stuck on songs I can use for my wedding, first dance mainly.
Honestly the one I'm thinking of using as my first dance is Aerosmith - Don't want to miss a thing. I'm not sure if it's entirely appropriate though.
Any advice on what to use or song recommendations will be very appreciated.

>>17772118
Can't go wrong with darude - sandstorm

>>17772120
>darude - sandstorm
top kek

>>17772118
here's a cheerful wedding song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIp1I5Atr3Q

>>17772082
>>17772107
ahh okay I understand. Thanks for the advice. I guess ill just sort of keep it where its at right now and if it still bothers me a few months down the road ill just stop the relationship from happening.

>>17772112
Well, if i AM showing signs of interest, why is >>17772061 talking about the scenario where i'm not showing signs of interest.

>>17772120
I think that one is more suited for when they walk down the aisle

>>17772085
Sure man, I respect that viewpoint, just ain't the life for me though. Maybe I'm just not confident enough for it, because where I stand I'm at a disadvantage. It's gonna be hard enough to find one dude willing to be with me if he can't fuck me, let alone 2 or 3. Plus, I just can't split my heart that way anyway. I'm rather old fashioned I guess, in the rare occasions I do get short lived boyfriends (which usually end once we get to the point were sex is expected and I have to explain I'm incapable), I like to devote myself to him. I transform into that kind of, 50's house wife doting on her adoring husband doing whatever she can to make him happy. Because that's what makes me happy. I never really had goals or dreams of my own, but I found that I get a lot of satisfaction from helping others be happy and achieve theirs. That experience is just increased tenfold when it's someone I'm in love with too. But I'm not completely selfless, I have needs and desires too. I won't sacrifice my core principles just to make my man happy.

>>17772118
Iron&Wine - Such Great Heights for the bride walking down the isle

Thinking Out Loud by Ed Sheeran for first dance cause why the fuck not.

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All this girl hints has reminded me that I'm utterly retarded and my female lesbian friends hates me because I lost so many opportunities because of it (some with very pretty chicks). I'm literally leslie nielsen levels of obliviouness. According to them is something on my water or genetic. It's comically bad ;_;

>>17772136
girl hints talk*

>>17772126
I was just getting at the core of this whole argument, that if you act like you don't care or don't want someone, then you can't complain when they think you don't.
I was saying even if OP does like this girl, he's not giving her any reason to think he likes her, hence "not showing any signs" and all the manbabys crying about how they can't just sit around and do absolutely nothing and expect the chick to do 100% of the work to start a relationship in extremely explicit terms. Like if you're not following an exact script of "I WOULD DESIRE TO ENGAGE IN ROMANTIC DATES AND A ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU" then they cannot ever possibly think or know a person is into them.

Idk when the art of understanding body language and nonverbal cues became lost on a generation. Its like if you're not screaming verbally this exact line like a robot, you can't get anywhere.

>>17772129
Heh, nobody can be that selfless, bending over completely just to make another person happy is the foundation for dysfunctional relationshits, so it's a perfectly valid and reasonable approach to keep your core principles.

>>17772076
I mean I wouldnt consider a girl whos had more than 3 sexual partners. Having SOs is fine, but if you dont value sex you dont value sex. Cant turn a ho into a wife.

Yesterday I kissed one of my friends (not really close, I've only known her since early semester) on her neck as a result of losing a stupid bet and she was all red and went dead silent the whole class. It's not a surprise kiss or anything, she participated in the bet, she knew I was gonna do it, I even announced "I'm going in" before I did it. That's not sexual harassment right? (there has been a case of sexual harassment and rape in our school). What do I tell her tomorrow? Also In retrospect I might have grabbed her boob by accident (I lost balance when I leaned over).

>>17771542
bump

>met a girl through online dating
>text each other a lot for a week
>Go on date, goes well
>she starts new job, 12 hour days, lots of personal stuff, says she's going to be busy
>still texting and calling frequently
>month goes by but no sign of another date because she's busy
>decide to drop her since she clearly doesn't have any time for a relationship.
>tell her, she's upset and argues about it for a bit
>10 days go by
>she starts sending me little texts about things as if she's forgotten that I dropped her

What's the deal with this? Is it a sign of crazy? Should I ignore the texts or remind her that I didn't want to be her pen pal?

>>17772142
>"I WOULD DESIRE TO ENGAGE IN ROMANTIC DATES AND A ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU"
But what's wrong with this?

>>17772150
7 hours with no reply lol
must suck

>>17772149
Enjoy prison you fucking degenerate.

>>17772147
What do you mean 'value'?
I would think it's the ones with lots of sexual partners who do value sex.

>>17772151
shes still interested in you despite being busy. She didnt want to stop talking to you completely

>>17772155
Wah Wah, my dick is 8''. Tell her you can fit it into her big box. Either she bounces on your dick or she doesnt.

Also not a guy, before you say I'm bitter

>>17771350
Actually, now that I'm waking up, anyone have tips on dating myself?

>>17772164
>Also not a guy, before you say I'm bitter
Penis envy isn't limited to males.

>>17772166
Split the bill.

>>17772149
If you don't ask her out she will press charge.

>>17772167
Kek

I meant in not dating for a while and focusing on myself.

>>17772167
I'm not a chick wanting a dick to be attached to me so no, wrong again.
I think because my box is 'small' I find it weird that shes a size queen and shoves a 8'' dildo in her. If you're girthy then just drop your dacks when next time you're around her and if she wants some she'll get on it. You'll be good as gold.

>>17772173
Thank you.

>>17772152
Its super robotic, takes all the romance, mystery, and fun out of meeting and getting to know people, and to me its just autistic as hell to dump everything out on the table all at once. They call it having "game" for a reason, because dating is supposed to be slow and fun. Not instantaneous and short lived.

But by all means that's just me and my opinion on it. If thats what you want, then search for that instant relationship in a can. But not everyones like that, some like to move at a less break neck pace and there's nothing wrong with that either.

>>17772162
Thanks, captain obvious.

>>17772191
Seconded. I tried both and the direct and fast way was pretty lame and felt like a job interview in a way.

>mystery, and fun out of meeting and getting to know people
This shit is so incredible underrated.

>>17772210
Thank you. Ugh I've hated new age dating. Like every bf I ever made always started as someone I was friends with first, and that's how it should be imo. People just wanna skip the friends phase anymore, jump straight into romance, and it's like, it's so awkward to try and get to know someone when you jump that step. Plus, I think it's the cause of all this dating anxiety people have been feeling more and more, because they never actually knew their partner before they started dating.
When you've known someone on a friendly level for some time, you already know to some degree their boundaries and personalities, you're already comfortable with one another. When you jump straight from stranger to gf/bf, you have no idea who they are, what they like and don't like, what will set them off, and how to comfort them when they are.

>>17772191
Fair enough. But you can't try to be mysterious and at the same time claiming you're "painfully obvious" and claiming you're literally advertising your availability. That's just dishonest.

If you try to be mysterious, you can't be frustrated when guys don't understand what you're getting at.

>>17772151

She clearly wants someone to talk to. It's not wrong of you to ignore her if that's not what you are looking for.

Maybe you could try being her friend, as long as you are interested in it, though. It's fine to say "no".

>>17772149
boi sounds like someone has a crush on you kek.

>>17772268
Except you can. You can be painfully obvious with your intent without having to outright verbally vomit it out. It's obvious what you want, but still adds a touch of mystery because it isn't 100% out there.
It's a probability thing, like if you stand in the middle of an interstate, the likelyhood of you causing an accident is pretty fucking high, it's almost a given. But theres still a small chance you might not right? When a chick is showing signs like that, is 99.99999% likely she wants you. But that missing .00000000001% whatever percent makes things interesting.
>you can't be frustrated when guys don't understand what you're getting at.
except I'm not. I was literally saying that the whole damn time. If he doesn't respond to me, I assume he's not into me and move on. No harm no foul, it literally is not a big deal to me. There are so many guys on the planet, I have plenty of options.
Guys should do the same thing. If they plan on sitting around and waiting for a chick to verbally vomit their love for them before they even actually know them, then they can't bitch when chicks don't react to their nonsignals.

>>17772268
>>17772305
The only thing I'm expressing frustration with is that guys back in the day used to be confident in themselves and were able to understand body language and non expressively verbal cues. The new generation seems to have lost that. I'm not sure what it was, personally I'd bet money on it being the "digital age"'s side effects, since the concept of meeting irl and actually speaking to another human being in person is quickly dying. People don't want to talk face to face anymore, that's scary, they'd rather talk via text where it's safe. Therefore, kids these days have lost the social skills needed to interact in the real world.
And it's not just men, it's women too. I'm gonna sound like an old bitter fart but it's true. Everyone's glued to their phones when they're out and about solely for the purpose of avoiding irl interaction. You used to be able to say good morning to a complete stranger and that was a normal thing. Now if you try to engage in petty small talk with a stranger you're met with strange looks and "who the fuck are you and why are you talking to me?"
The stranger danger is just increasing irrationally with every generation. You need a strict introduction to communicate with people in the real world, through someone else or through a carefully picked through profile.

>>17772308
are you like 50 kek I wouldn't be surprised there are many grannies browsing 4chan

>>17772311
Like I said, I admit it sounds dated but it's true. Think about it, what's the biggest wall when trying to approach someone in public, they're looking at their phone, listening to music, etc. And how many people have said they do this shit purposely so that nobody will "bother them" in public. By all means, I invite you to go find a person staring at their phone out in public and try to talk to them about a normal casual "hows the weather" topic. See if you can just feel how creeped out they are.

I'm 21 years old for what it's worth. I agree technology is a beautiful thing that opens many doors, and hell I'll even say it's opened more doors than it's closed, but this is just one of the consequences of progress. New skills are learned, others are lost.

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What signals do you femanons give a guy who is bothering you? Like because he likes you and stuff? (Like, too intense?)
Also any tip to not be too intense?

>>17772342

Pro Tip: If you ask yourself "Is this too intense?" then it is. That should help you dial it down a notch.

>>17772351
doesn't sound so pro to me, have you ever done it?

>>17772370

I do that all the time, not only when it comes to girls. When you are kinda socially inept like I am (and I assume you are at least a bit) there is a simple truth:

If I (socially inept) can see this is going too far, then I'm going really far.

Doesn't mean I don't make mistakes. I still come off too strong a lot of the time. But at least now it's a bit more controlled.

>>17772342
Well, not a grill, but what would you do in her shoes?
When a girl I didn't like that much kept messaging me I just kept replying with short messages or ignored some messages altogether. We didn't work or study together so I didn't have to hang out with her much, but when I did I used excuses like "sorry I don't have time lately". Also I mostly shot down her offers to hang out unless I had to.

If she hangs out with you voluntarily and talks to you properly then assume you're doing ok, I know you can get anxious but you know. You're not responsible for her comfort, if she feels bothered yet hangs out with you etc. then it's her problem, she can always avoid you right?

>>17772342
I tell him "fuck off" loud enough so other people can hear.

>>17772308
It's your turn now. Your turn to be confident.

>>17772308
>implying it's technology and not MSM pushing the "EVERYONE IS A RAPIST/EVERYONE IS A SERIAL KILLER/EVERYONE IS A PEDOPHILE/NOBODY IS SAFE" theology onto an already scared nation

people choose to stick their noses in their e-shit these days out of fear.

We used to be a nation that feared only fear itself. That's why men of the old days seemed so confident. Now we fear everything - except for fear.

>>17772509
>MEOWWR
https://youtu.be/XMocL_Hi6SU?t=53

>>17772342
Basically a lack of encouragement.
>only sparse, brief smiles
>being more formal and polite than necessary
>declining all invitations to spend time one on one
>going out of my way to talk to other people in a group setting
>cold body language: keeping a relatively big distance and turning my body away from him
>avoiding or instantly rebuffing his physical touch

If he really does not take a hint I'll tell him to leave me be.

I was born with a vagina, and I want to be in a relationship, but I don't want to be thought of as someone's girlfriend. what do

>>17772624
>I was born with a vagina
proof?

>>17772624
You want to be someone's girlfriend... but you don't want to be thought of as someone's girlfriend?
You have issues. Get your shit together.

>>17772624
smoke crack

>>17772624
Instead of caring about other people think about your relationship talk with the dude or gurl about what do you want and do that?
I "dated" a chick but she was really just my best friend before being my lover.

>>17772624
It sounds like you got enough problems with that being born with a vagina thing, dawg. I would worry about that before focusing on a relationship

>>17771984
>I know I should have asked for her number instead.
If she doesn't want to talk to you it doesn't matter what you ask for, she'll be busy when you call, she'll forget to answer your texts...

A question for the womens out there, is it considered strange to hit up a conversation with the girl you like but dont know? As a basement dweller who is starting to come out of the basement i am very inexperienced with social life in general.

>>17772696
Not in itself, the tricky thing is that it's usually especially the inexperienced, nervous guys who make it obvious that they are only talking to you because they're sexually/romantically interested. Basically they act in a way that makes it obvious that it's huge to them to make some small talk with you.

The thing is that you already know that you like her, but she might not have even really noticed you. In that case you want to appear on her radar as just another (potentially interesting?) guy, not as someone hitting on her. That also makes you seem quite invested, if you are putting in obvious effort for someone you by all accounts don't even know... and that's where some women would perceive it as creepy.

In general learning how to make small talk with people is one of the most useful and de-stressing skills to have. But short term for this girl: be light-hearted and casual about it. If she doesn't engage you, don't press it. That's what you can do not knowing her at all.

>>17772696
>you like but dont know
lol I'd say go the most straight forward way since that worked for me.

>>17772704
>>17772703
Ok thanks

>>17772704
Counterpoint: don't go with the most straight forward way, since that didn't work for me.

For everyone

When I go on PoF and browse profiles, it seems that 3/5 girls have kids already (dropped) and 1/5 that don't are mentally retarded (they can hardly type)

Where's a good site for online dating with better people? What do you guys use?

>>17772720
Sadly the whole internet dating stigma isn't pulled 100% out of thin air. Women get approached more and it takes more for a woman to resort to internet than it does for a man. All the more if you have kids and can't be hanging around in bars or at parties on a regular basis.

>>17772720
>3/5 girls have kids already (dropped) and 1/5 that don't are mentally retarded (they can hardly type)
you should date girls on 4chan !

>>17772722
>Women get approached more
Why is this?

>>17772736
>>17772729
>>17772722
That's nice guys.

What are some alternative sites to PoF I can use? At this point I'm almost considering Tindr, just because it's more popular.

>>17772736
Because women are discouraged from having a too active interest in men and sex, probably combined with a naturally less pressing sex drive because less testosterone (though this is of course impossible to compare).

If you already know more interested guys than you can date/sleep with without losing credibility as a potential partner, why in the world would you want to become more sensitive towards all the many different kinds of men you could find attractive etc?

>>17772736
I have no idea. That would require me to understand men

>>17772729
I wish. I'm probably the only one in my country that posts on /adv/

>>17772738
Interpals. Buy your russian wife there, very cheap and many qt. [spoiler]Chicks there are insanel easy you get nudes even without asking[/spoiler]

>>17772766
>tfw like russian girls but not rich
On the oher hand if I'm rich I don't need them anyway

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>>17769816
Women do you like guys with long hair (about shoulder length)? Does a guy have to have certain features or a certain body type to look attractive to you when he has long hair?

Do you prefer a certain style or cut of long hair on a guy?

Thank you!

>>17772786
I like it if it suits him (he has nice hair and/or it suits his face type). And provided he takes basic care of it.

I don't think you need any specific features but to be painfully honest, I would not go for this if you are either fat or strikingly unattractive (uneven features etc). I see some guys who are conventionally unattractive trying to resort to stuff like this (fedoras or other quirky/gentlemanly fashion, creative facial hair, long hair) trying to opt for another aesthetic or personal twist to stand out. It honestly only draws attention to being less attractive, like the fat girls who go overboard with their make up skills, fancy glasses, jewelery etc... I feel in that case you are better off sticking to a conventional style and not making yourself more of an outsider.

>>17772782
Nigger I never said they were expensive.
>convince like 6 ukranian and kazak girls to teach me russian
>they don't teach me jack shit because speaking a language doesn't allow you to understand it well enough to teach
>talk shit instead
>in the span of 4 months all of them send me lots of lewd pics and wanted to start LDR
I'm not even white dude. They are insane.
>DELET my account because got bored
>months later one of them sends me a msg on whatsapp
>"I broke up with my bf"
>comfort her
>"Do you have gf?"
So it has come to this.jpg

>>17772799
And they weren't ugly in the slightest. One of them was waifu/model material.

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>>17772803
>>17772803
Fug forgot img

Girls and guys.

I'm infatuated with a female friend, we've spent a good time talking to each other and studying together but it's a relatively early point in the friendship and she doesn't seem to feel the same about me.

What should I do?

>>17772569
And to me I am being confident, by expressing these pretty obvious signs of interest. Balls then in their court to be confident enough to express signs of interest back.
>>17772579
Well one could argue it's exactly technology that created that "everyone is a rapist" mentality. Back when my parents were kids, they only knew the immediate news in their area. They were only aware of the bad things that happened within their town, through the morning newspaper. Since it was a small sample, obviously there werent many instances. Then when they started having kids, they had access to news from all over the world through television and the internet. They could hear about the child abductions, rapes, murders, what have you from across the damn country. Since the sample size got larger, so did the sample of bad eggs, problem was, they were still applying those numbers to their own areas if only subconsciously. They made it out in their head that since there are like, a thousand kidnappings a day from all over the country, that must mean a good portion of them was around them, when in reality there could have been none reported anywhere near us. They got paranoid because now they were hearing about some case somewhere every day, rather than one case actually near them once a year, if even that.
Technology gives us the power of access, but unfortunately that access also burdens us with fear. If we didn't have that access, and still relied on local newspapers to get our information on the world, I'd say it's likely this big spook in stranger danger would have been lessened at least. But everything is instantaneous at our fingers now.

Kind of accidentally, I asked out a guy on OKC.
He mentioned something in his profile about always having wanted to try making pretzels.
So in my first message, I tell him I've done that before, and it's easy.
Naturally, he says we should do it together.
So far, so good. Problem is, I don't feel comfortable having a first date with someone I've never met at their house.
How can I backpedal this and have pretzel-making be a second or third date?

>>17772766
I'm not buying fucking anyone. The most I'll do concerning money and girls is I'll buy her dinner or a V-day gift.

If you have to pay for love it's not love. and If you pay for sex you're scum.

>>17772869
>If you pay for sex you're scum.
Why?
You have to pay for everything else in this world, why not sex?

>>17772882
I don't agree with him but many men find it a humiliating thought for something that is given away for free all the time.

Sure technically you invest more in a relationship than you pay for a night with a hooker, but in a healthy relationship that goes two ways, she also surprises you and gets you gifts etc. Not to mention you also have the aspect of having sex with someone who desires you and is actively turned on by you vs having sex with someone who essentially tolerates that you use her body.

>>17772860
Most certainly, I think it's pretty rational. Did you like, already set up time and date or anything, or did it literally just end with "we should do it together (sometime)?"

I'd just be honest, say you wanna meet for coffee or something first. Its online dating 101 to never meet up with someone the first time that's not in broad daylight in a public place. Just be honest, chances are if he's a normal human being he'll understand.

Also protip, whatever you decide on, just make sure you tell a friend or something where you're going and who you're meeting, just in case. If you don't already do something like that.

>>17772869
I was kidding man. There is a meme about buying slav/chinese women, like literally buying them.
But try interpals. It's nice for learning things and for grills.

Do girls mind or care much if their BF is inexperienced?

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>>17772797
Thank you for your reply. I know that I'm not unattractive or fat at least. From this picture I have an oval face, can you suggest a style or picture I can show to my barber to compliment my face?

>>17772659
>You want to be someone's girlfriend... but you don't want to be thought of as someone's girlfriend?
Because girlfriends are crazy, or selfish, or controlling, or clingy. I don't want to be any of those things.

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Ladies, how do you feel about a guy who you have mired who introduces himself and instantly asks you out to lunch? Is this something you would follow through with?

>>17773363
I'm a guy and I woudn't go if a chick did that with me.