The Long Way To Becoming A Loser: An Essay

>Society has become so strange to me. Daily i am drifting away further.
please, let me stop you here. you're not as interesting as you think you are, and your groundbreaking, revolutionary self-realization is far from unique in circumstance or exposition. spare yourself and us all the embarrassment.

>>17763221
way to go. typical example of projection. YOU are the cunt who thinks he's better than everyone else, as shown by your way of talking, as if i did something wrong. so shut right the fuck up.

>>17763220
>The question is, where will we go from here?
We? I didn't realize that you have a multiple personality disorder going by the poorly formatted wall of text.

You'll probably grow up eventually. Or become a regular in some shitty echo chamber "community" like r9k.

>>17763257
anything else besides snarky remarks? you're not grown up, you idiot, you're just arrogant.

>>17763266
Why can't I be both?

Also what else do you expect? I answered your question. Do you have another or want clarification?

your only 18...im 27 and have been having that kinda life for years along with many others on 4chan

>>17763266
Clearly you dont belong here either

>>17763266
>>17763240
let's not bring your infantile, memetic notions of projection into the equation or i really will go to town on you. suffice to say that you're full of shit. you are making these choices and they are on you, just as your decision to wallow in self-pity is. don't expect anyone to adopt that sense of pity themselves, especially not for something as tiresome, tedious, and ceaselessly self-indulgent as social anxiety.

if you want help, get into therapy. you're going to have to pay someone to really listen to your bullshit.

>>17763284
>you're going to have to pay someone to really listen to your bullshit.

Clearly he doesn't, since you're willing to spend your time whining about it.

Why don't you just... not reply to the thread? I don't understand it. You devote effort and time into topics you despise just for the sake of propping up your own ego by insulting people in a shitpost forum.

Who needs therapy?

but you really are being pretentious, anon. the fact that you let yourself succumb into the webs proves your weakness -- and not a fault with this society. i am not implying it's cool being out here in this world, but try going out for once. try talking to people in school. and i heavily recommend stopping the computer meme altogether, it gave me scoliosis personally.

>>17763292
you think OP needs coddling and cock-holding? fuck off. some people need sympathy and some people need to give themselves an honest self-assessment. you can take umbrage ot what i'm saying and reinforce his tired, staid logic but you're sure as shit not doing him any favors.

>>17763281
Goddamn. Where did it all go wrong in your life?
>>17763284
KEK. You sound like those feminist moms "oh i'm gonna go to town on you! watch out!" Everything you said was pure assumption. clearly you're the one who is full of shit. i don't know what enraged your furious autism but i cannot take you seriously, so shut the fuck up unless you're contributing positively.

>>17763303
okay, have fun waddling through your infinite microcosm of self-importance. see ya!

>>17763293
Nobody said anything about society being at fault.
I can't go back, not after the stuff i've seen. My political views, my outlook on society, it's so different. I can't just remove my memory. I'm trying to find my place in society, even if it's on the far edge, whatever. i appreciate your understanding of my problem though. thanks

>>17763305
no do more palm reading

>>17763220
I don't get how you people manage to fuck up this bad. I have quite the similar biography till 16 as you have. Was extremely social and popular, outspoken, center of the social circle and started getting good with grills till I turned 12 or 13. Then I turned to an anti-social vidya nerd. Listening to metal, growin long hair, stopped doing sports, only wearing black, playing vidya 24/7, developing radical political views, becoming increasingly shy and introverted, barely able to even talk in bigger unknown groups or with girls. Self-confidence obviously was in shambles. But even at my worst, my friends never turned on me. We did less together, as I didn't leave the house. But even when I switched classes, I was always accepted and found new really good friends quite fast. And when I turned 17, I started getting back to where I was with 12 and somehow recovered (kinda). How did you manage to fuck up this bad OP?

>>17763318
>palm reading
good god, it's like you honestly believe at your core that you're completely inscrutable. a dyed in the wool, groundbreaking enigma. it's written plain as day in your faux-revelatory, myspace poetry prosaic tonality. it's like you're transcribing the word of god when in reality you're just trudging unknowingly down the same well-trodden path as literally millions of dull, self-important teenagers come before. this IS scripture to you so you're going to get butthurt and defensive and try to turn it back on me because that's what 4chan taught you -- that's your only defense mechanism. this IS you, whether or not you want to admit it. the shit you talk about, the way you talk about it, and the mindset it all represents are all common as dirt. you are common as dirt. if you realize it you might still have time to salvage something out of the wreck of your life.

>>17763316
>I can't go back, not after the stuff i've seen.
Abuse victims, child soldier and other people who actually seen and had to deal with hardships and fucked up shit managed it just fine.

>My political views, my outlook on society, it's so different.
Just like with every other kid at some point. You outgrow idiocy pretty easy if you actually bother. Educating yourself helps too.

>I'm trying to find my place in society
Oh? What exactly do you do?

>>17763332
Rekt

>>17763332
you say common like its a bad thing

>>17763341
Which is pretty pointless if OP doesn't get it.

>>17763345
Given how OP thinks he's "different" it's probably meant for perspective.

>>17763328
well, i moved a lot as a child, maybe that produced further material for my lonerdom. Despite all this i feel moderately confident tho (with the exception of being able to pick up chicks easily, that i cannot). The problem i'm facing is, i'm deeply bothered by the amount of restrictions our society has. i feel restricted by the conformities of our society, and also DEEPLY restricted by political correctness. i'm just a weirdo deep inside, and i don't want to NOT be one. I want to be fucking left alone, but also not be a hobo.

>>17763351
"WAAA I CAN'T CALL MY COWORKERS DIRTY NIGGERS, PC GONE MAD. FUCK SOCIETY AND THEIR RESTRICTIONS."

>>17763332
You fucking dimwitted moron. I never said i was special. I am fucking normal just like everyone else. Who the fuck are you talking to? Are you shizophrenic? This is getting offensive, i never said the things you're accusing me of. You're talking to a wall and you're spewing hatred like a kid, go home faggot.

>>17763355
kek

>>17763351
Just be like those artsy instagram girls who wear like, full body fishnets daily or something. People don't care that much, man.

>>17763351
>I want to be fucking left alone
no you don't. you're trying to create some kind of loner mythology, and you want other people to share it with you. that's why you are sharing it here. if it were truly unimportant and your own internal affirmations were enough, you wouldn't need to resort to external self-definition. you want society to value you for being a shut-in and you want to give nothing in return. this isn't going to happen.

>>17763357
you're just a distasteful person. i regret making the effort.

>>17763360>
>....
tempted to google that

>>17763362
again, nice theories you got there buddy.

>>17763369
i don't even know what to say to you. it's like you're not even self-aware.

>>17763351
>i feel restricted by the conformities of our society, and also DEEPLY restricted by political correctness.
Many people do. I know Chads that think exactly like this. So this isn't your problem. You're just blaming your views to make yourself some special, kinda romantic loner to save your self-image. But deep down you know that you're not a loser because you despise PC.
Fix everything else in your life and then PC will maybe actually be a problem you can complain about.

>>17763367
if you're not that fag who wants to "put me in my place" i apologize
but like i said, youre theories are just made out of fantasy, i said nothing about being special, i feel like i've drifted away from mainstream society, yes. but that's because of my political views. not because i'm some diamond born to be a god. or some Tumblr shit like that. Again sorry, i don't usually insult people for no reason

>>17763373
but that Chad doesn't get that he's working against his principles. Or maybe he ignores it. I don't like disguising my views, i don't like being a part of something that i am clearly not. The guy you're talking about may feel happier if he just lived the way he should, really free.

>>17763373
i'll admit - i do have to realize that being a loser has nothing to do with my views, i am to blame for this. But returning to "normal life" feels like living wrong.

>>17763379
nobody wakes up and says "i'm going to write some tumblr shit" then goes and writes -- with full cognizance -- meaningless tumblr drivel. yet one way or another an absolutely massive amount of meaningless tumblr drivel somehow ends up getting written anyway. how does that happen?

>>17763401
i'm fully aware that you think i'm a fuckwit, just a stupid teenager and i'm so much below you. I don't care. your opinion doesn't help me become happier, it's shit man.

>>17763389
You're projecting. One of the Chads I'm talking about just triggered an entire lecture hall before the election night single-handidly because he isn't about 'disguising his views'. He's just an extremely popular, extroverted guy with very anti-mainstream views and his views are certainly not causing him any loneliness. (Seriously, how often do people actually talk about politics anyway?)

>>17763398
I get what you're talking about. As I said in a previous post, I was just like you. Literally the same excuses. You do not have to change your views, but you have to change your lifestyle and your attitude towards life. For me, starting sports again was a huge help.

>>17763418
Another chad fucking won the fucking election.

>>17763409
you know what does help you become happier? therapy. i was brusque with you and that's my fault, but i am trying to help. all this cock waving about how different you are only serves to reinforce the aspects of yourself which seem to be making you unhappy. it's not supposed to be enjoyable for someone to trash something you put effort into. what it should do is make you realistically evaluate it instead of mindlessly defending it.

if you're unhappy, there are ways out of this shit which don't involve self-reinforcing echo chambers or final solutions.

>>17763418
Your Chad buddy, (and i do not judge him of course, the guy is probably really cool) may have some opinions that are unpopular. But living really free would mean for me just not having any social "status" since that means you have to maintain it, you have something to lose. Yes...I'm feeling like a loser deep inside and therefore i can't really socialize with people. But even if i WOULD, would it make me happy? I don't know man.

>>17763427
my current situation is, i'm feeling like a loser. (Now i don't really feel like killing myself or that i need therapy, it's not that bad. but i'm feeling a strong pressure to make a choice now) because i think, maybe it makes sense to acquire social status? get popular with normal people, get money, you name it. On the other hand, isn't there so much freedom in just not giving a fuck, working on independent projects (which i already thought about), having a fun time, living like i truly want to, no political correctness too, which is honestly a big problem for me.

>>17763401
Oh yea btw, i know how you think this looks like tumblr, but i just wrote it like that to make it fun to read, i thought it would sound more interesting than just listing my problems in a un-emotional way

You gotta get out of the them and me mindset. People mistake stability for being normal but everyone has quirks and will be weird and out of place somewhere. John w Gacy was normal on the surface but was really a bisexual murdering pedo clown.

At the end of the day self sufficiency is all that matters, focus on that.

>>17763510
shit youre right.

>>17763510
i don't agree on the normal part though, i'm definitely a bit less normal, people have told me so many times. that makes it just hard. being a borderline autist like me, it really seems like the easier way out to just stop trying to be part of it all and do shit that i just like to. living by my convictions.

>>17763220
>long time ago
ur 18 for fucks sake
it couldn't have started long time ago
unless you were the first pure-born NEET

do what you are supposed to do, graduate school, then uni or whatever
then make money and don't ever - for a second - stop making money

that's all there is to it, don't fall off the wagon

if you wanna get your dick wet learn the arts of peacocking on TRP or whatever

>>17763555
sad part is i don't see purpose in that. i'm a person who needs freedoms, always has been this way, and there's few jobs that can really satisfy me, i have realized this after learning a lot about myself while looking for a future job. money for material posessions doesn't interest me much, i'm content with enough money to live healthily, feed myself, live well. it's more about the THINGS that i do which is troubling, and the rank it places you on the social ladder. i have long thought about working creatively and being open about my opinions, but this would make me look more like a weirdo than i already am.

>>17763573
You don't see purpose in what exactly?

>>17763549

>it really seems like the easier way out to just stop trying to be part of it all and do shit that i just like to. living by my convictions.

Well you have to become self sufficient if you don't want to answer to anybody, and without total detachment or winning the lottery we are all pretty much forced to navigate though society and its bullshit to build anything for ourselves.

You have to conquer the world before you can turn your back on it, or else you will end up with nothing.

>>17763588
just working some job
i need to work on things that are important to me - that means it has to involve being open about my opinions
everything else is pretty boring, i wanted to be a comedian but since im kinda autistic that doesnt work, but something similar that doesnt require social skills is just what i need
maybe i can get money by being shocking and offensive, that would be my dream desu. on the other hand, it would land me 0 pussy, 0 social status

>>17763590
yea being an entrepeneur or something like that seems interesting for me, so maybe i'll do that but it would really destroy my social status so i'm not sure yet

Thanks for help everyone, i'm going to sleep.
I'm gonna live my future life as a social reject who jacks off to rape porn. GG

>>17763595
My god, u talk like a spoiled shit
Nobody cares about you or what you need or want.
Irregardless of what they say.
Nobody does.

And as such - you need money.
Do what you're supposed to do to make money as effortlessly as possible.

Purpose and meaning is overrated.
It's very easy to become a NEET or a hobo, going the other way is much harder

>>17763461
>But living really free would mean for me just not having any social "status" since that means you have to maintain it
No. Even following your logic, having a social status doesn't make one unfree. The obligation to maintain a status makes one unfree. Therefore, however, you, by your own definition, are unfree because you feel obligated to maintain your 'zero status' (aka loser status). It would be more logically consistent to say: Not caring about the social status makes one free. And actually your logical inconsistency shows that this is also coverup. You've created views and excuses to validate your loser status, even though you don't want to be a loser and you don't want to have this status. But accepting this would overthrow your selfimage and since this is an incredibly rapid step, you're trying to protect yourself from it.
So, to speak in your terminology, free yourself from your obilgation to maintain your image, your status and change your life for good.

>>17763220
op, there is a paper by foucalt on how society has seen the psychologically ill through history that gave me insight on the way people have treated you on this thread.

society will call you lazy and pretentious. you still can and should learn from the outside, but since you isolated yourself you just can't go back on some things.

i know it sounds pretentious as fuck, but the answers you are looking for can only be found inside YOU. no one else can point you the way.

you have a long journey ahead. don't give up.

>>17763220
You are saying the same stupid shit I said as a kid
There is a reason why nobody cares about your insightful opinion about life kid, it's because you haven't lived it yet

>>17763617
>The first generation of kids that found themselves a platform
Godspeed little apocalypse thank god you aren't allowed to vote yet
May your sense of self importance grow even bigger and your little bubble to go unchallenged and never ever pop
I'm looking fowards to seeing you cry and scream when shit doesn't go your way like I have been doing all week