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The thread for older (25+) miserable people.
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32 yo male here

Worry about ED, even though I know I can carry an erection, it's rare that I get fully diamond. In fact, I'm not really sure how hard it's possible to get. This worrying has in later years made me go soft during sex, partly because I keep checking to see if I'm actually hard enough. Women don't complain, but it's very much in my mind when I fuck someone, and it means one out of three of four times I don't reach climax. Also I don't get horny/erect as easily as I used to, but then again I used to be in LTRs, as of in recent years I've only dated casually, so not sure if it's a confidence thing crossed with a feeling close/safe with the women I sleep with.

Someone give me some comforting words. I'd like to think that it's as easy as getting more /fit/. I've been really lazy and had low energy the last couple of years, and I drink more days than I don't.

Can I be saved, or is this old age? I don't want to use meds.
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>>17748724
How often do you ejaculate? maybe you should slow down and take break. let your libido fully die and reset itself.
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>>17748681
define miserable
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>>17748767
Every day some weeks, every third day other times, I've gone nofap for 30 days twice, but not because of ED. Last time was year and a half ago.

The timing is bad, since I got several women who wants the D at the moment, and I've never had that happen to me before.
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Going to graduate at 26. Incredibly self conscious about that, since I'm watch people my age already a few years into a decent career. Health needs to improve. Basically swapping to a vegetarian diet which is something I'm still trying to swap to. Still no social circle. Girl troubles too, yet to meet a chick I want to go on more than 3 dates with.

The first two are pretty simple, even if I don't want to do them. The last one is a bit more confusing, I've never been good at breaking the ice and all that. People often suggest stuff like meetup, but aside from one music group that seems to be dead now there's nothing that appeals to me. All the college clubs are based around identity politics and I feel weird being surrounded by teenagers.
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28. How do you deal with the fact that it's too late? At this age my personality is set, and I've matured into complete garbage. I fail at everything I try out of personal weakness. Isn't suicide logical at this point?
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27, looking for a job, albeit not very actively. Picked up the violin. Trying to finish off a few papers I wrote earlier this year. Moved back to my parents' place.

No friends, no girls. No goals or aspirations. More and more I spend each day thinking of the past and trying to pinpoint where it all went wrong.
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28 here.

I'm studying at some place because I spent my teenage years as a stupid fucking basement dweller with no hopes for a future and several health issues. At 23 I decided to fix some of that and I'm still in the process of repairing myself. I took quite a few steps and people around me are very proud, but I still have some health problems that get completely rid of my confidence.

I haven't ever gotten laid, so I'm another random virgin which seems to surprise some people. The only girl that seems really attracted to me, to the point people are really pushy about the subject, has a dad that would beat me up badly if things took a wrong turn between her and me, and has an ex that's already looking to get her back. What I want really is to get a normal job until a miracle happens and everyone who gives a shit about me stops doing so and I can die peacefully.
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>>17749815
After browsing these threads for awhile, I can finally find a post I can relate to. Where do you think it all went wrong, anon?
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After getting diagnosed with cancer at 24, no light ahead of tunnel ever since.

Cancer medicine first destroyed my libido, i cannot even masturbate anymore, i do not have any sort of "sexuality" anymore, it has destroyed my whole persona. I cannot even identify with my gender anymore.

Psychiatrists put me on fucked up medications, full of SSRI's. I ended up in lots of trouble with police who were after cannabis that I started to smoke moderately (the only thing that gives me any kind of enjoyment) multiple search warrants etc. trouble with law

I've lost my house, my girlfriend, my friends, my career of 5 years, my driving license.

At 25 I tried suicide, I've been institutionalized twice since that. Fucked up experiences where I was isolated to a small room for days with no rights to even get fresh air once a day (mental health patients have no rights in my country, once you are termed insane or danger to your own health you lose all human rights)

I´ve went from bodybuilder to a total hungry skeleton mode, I'm fucking ashamed of my appearance and the pills I have to take make me yellowish

I lost basically everything in 2 years spawn. I'm 26 now. I´m fucking envious to you fuckers who still have your health left and cant get your head sorted out, i would give anything to get mine back,

I'm fucking depressed but that is because of physical reasons and multiple hospitalizations that isolated me further. All the friends, relatives or anyone who has seen me all ask the same question "What happened to you?"

I would love to struggle with normal problems like unemployment, getting a girlfriend or building my life back but at the moment I lay down most of the day on a matress only get up to piss and 4chan shitposting. Pray for death every single fucking day.
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>>17749803
You're copping out and excusing yourself from being a shithead. There are always things you can change and improve about yourself; you're just too fucking lazy to do it.
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>>17750447

Why pray for death when you can pray for the strength to get your life back on track?

Psalm 34:18 The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit.

Psalm 34:19 A righteous person will have many troubles, but the LORD will deliver him from them all.
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>>17750447
i really don´t know has anyone gone through anything fucked up like this, but I really have my doubts that even if I get better in few years will there be a resume to some sort of psychological normality?

I mean i have no will or motivation to social conversation anymore, i mostly stare at walls when im not on computer, cannot enjoy music or art (I used to play in a semi-known band and we toured internationally)

i really hope none of you fuckers have to experience any of this shit ever.

Youth is wasted on the young. The most bitter part is that apart from few friends from your social circles, those true friends, nobody really gives a shit about you. But it's the harsh truth, society keeps running even if you get crushed under the wheel for health reasons or whatever. everybody will forget about you, even your ex-mates.
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>>17750464
I must say that I do believe in some sort of higher power, ive been on the hospital too many times since my diagnosis connected to heart beat monitors and blood pumps. close to death but came back.

I still pray sometimes, I do not quote the Book or any scripture, but you are right that i should view this as a Test, since I am still here. I just gotta hang on.

https://bible.org/seriespage/4-nebuchadnezzar-s-pride-and-punishment

This chapter comforts me for one thing all these experiences have changed my persona for good: humility. I used to make fun of people who I deemed weak but i was literally "stripped down of my own kingdom"
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>>17750466

You are showing clear signs of depression. Even so, I do not agree with you. Forming bonds with others and MAINTAINING them will make people remember you. Take it from a guy who got hospitalized 4 times for anxiety attacks after years of traumatizing events and still has his friends stand by him.

Also look at my other post. >>17750464

Religion helps a lot. It provides guide lines that, when followed, help you get your life back on track. The bible has given me back my mental stability. Even if you find God and Jesus a bunch of bullshit, the lessons in it are still good.

Go read the book of Matthew.
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>>17750493
>Even if you find God and Jesus a bunch of bullshit, the lessons in it are still good. ¨

I find most of, especially quoting the scripture, bullshit but as I said above >>17750480

I always was a prideful motherfucker, but i have no pride left, only humility from now on. and I do view all my health problems and this mental rollercoaster as some sort of punishment from above and strictly from Pride.

but then again, part of me understands that humans try to find "patterns" or meaning in anything, while some people get totally fucked up diseases that leave them into pain for years, I still view this world of ours as chaotic and no inherent meaning

> Therefore the best king would be Pure Chance.
>It is Pure Chance that rules the Universe; therefore,
>and only therefore, life is good.

I still believe in Chance.
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>>17750500
>>17750480

>and I do view all my health problems and this mental rollercoaster as some sort of punishment from above and strictly from Pride.

I don't think you should view the things that happened to you as punishment. If anything, God wants us to thrive. But, as you say, we humans learn things mostly through suffering.

Humility is one thing you can learn, as you've noticed. Another thing is being proactive. I think this is what's lacking in your situation. You know shit is fucked up, but you don't know how to pull yourself together and pick up the pieces and go from there.

>I still believe in Chance.

Do you believe there is a chance you can get your life back on track?
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I have neurological damage from a decade of untreated vitamin B12 deficiency that doctors repeatedly failed to diagnose. I eventually narrowed it down when I could no longer use my fingers correctly, kept losing my balance, and was irritable all the time, so I started self treatment which helped the worst of the symptoms, but there's no official record of anything being wrong with me.

I am disabled tier at pretty much every mental and physical task and require more than 12 hours sleep a day to even function at the most basic level. It takes me ten times longer, at least, to learn anything than even stupid people. I get almost nothing done in a day because everything takes so long and speeding up feels horribly rushed. Any kind of minor impediment like illness, tiredness, worry, etc. completely destroys my ability to do anything.

I got a shit grade in university because the work was far too difficult and ended up in a part time minimum wage job. I can only work by drinking large amounts of energy drinks every day and working at a very rushed speed to get the bare minimum done. Some days I'll keep dropping things, can't stand without almost falling, have poor mechanical skills, and feel absolutely terrible. I can only hold my job because most co-workers steal things, turn up late, do no work, etc.

Everyone thinks I'm just incredibly lazy and put no effort into anything when I have to put in maximum effort all the time to even reach this unacceptable standard. I let everyone down continually because I can't do enough. Any time I've tried to tell anyone what is going on, they don't understand at all or think I'm exaggerating. I don't feel positive emotions. Nothing triggers them.

I'm 25 now and I wonder how decrepit I'll become with age.

There's no point living like this, really. No matter how hard I work, I'm always going to be shit at everything and a burden on everyone around me.
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>>17750532

>so I started self treatment which helped the worst of the symptoms, but there's no official record of anything being wrong with me.

Is it possible for you to go to a doctor and have your blood examined? To get this stuff on record?
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>>17748681
Similar to these two >>17749794 >>17749815

Turned 25. I used be a genius. I am not overstating at all. Gifted program, graduate from high school and undergraduate college very early, get into a top medical school (all in america despite being originally from a 3rd world country).

But I had a fucked childhood. My parents never took care of me, they had their professions. Since 8 I lived alone and fended for myself. Dad was ex military in a country I won't name where we have had a rebellion/terrorism for decades, his soldiers would take me to mess halls to eat with them when I had no food left. My mother always said I was a sociopath. At 15/16 while in undergraduate college, I visited "home" and ended up running away to be a child soldier in a balkan battlefield.

At 22, when everything was amazing, a beautiful and devoted girlfriend from a good family with whom were madly in love and wanted to marry, one year from being a doctor, already an engineer... It all went upside down. My past caught up to me, and I fell into a horrible aggressive depression. I started getting mobbed by my consultants and professors, later the entire school.

3 years since then I did not advance in any form. Now I am kicked out of my school, back with my "parents" in my shithole of a country. No friends. No job. In my anger I broke up with gf, who was probably going to do it eventually if I did not first. Now she won't even speak to me. The love of my life... The one person who showed me what "love" was, which I never had.

Regret. Barely avoiding the same depression now. The thoughts in my head... the memories... flashbacks...

Oh, to die and be done, done with it all, sleep without dreams, dreams of Her, forgive me, ...,
no forgiveness, only death, I deserve to die...

>>17750464
Thanks, this... it really was what I was looking for. Though until recently I scoffed at religion. Now it is one of the few things keeping me from taking my life.
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>>17749803

No. Overcoming your weaknesses is. But that would require effort, something to which a lot of people on /adv/ seem allergic to.
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>>17750543

Unlikely.

As I said, they failed to diagnose it for a full decade. They just kept saying it was mental disorders and kept putting my on the latest meme pills which did nothing. I might be marked as a hypochondriac because I kept going back because I knew they were wrong.

If I went, they would not accept my diagnosis. I've learnt this in the past; if you suggest anything they'll immediately rule it out. I went god knows how many times listing the same symptoms. They'd do the eye lid test for iron deficient anemia, but not a blood test for pernicious anemia.

Even if they did do a blood test, it would not give them a meaningful result as I started taking huge doses of Vitamin B12, and it gets stored in the liver, several years worth, so even if I didn't take it for a while, there would still be a certain level of the vitamin in my blood. Reading the experiences of others online, they will not give the diagnosis until it's an extremely low level. Lowered levels just get dismissed.

On the tiny chance I did get a diagnosis, it would make no difference. They'd give me the same treatment at a higher price, I'd get a diagnosis that no-one really understands, and I don't want to live on welfare, not that they'd give it anyway.

I've been to doctors so many times and no matter how certain I am that they'll finally do something useful, they just let me down again. They can't diagnose in ten minutes what took me a decade to understand.
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>>17750581

I had similar experiences, but with stomach problems.

>pernicious anemia

Yep, I've heard of it. Quite uncommon, but in my country (Netherlands), this is diagnosed correctly in almost all cases. I would be suprised if you are in the same country. The problem with prolonged B12-deficiency is that symptoms can become irreversable.

Even if you are taking B12, there is the possibility that your deficiency was caused by malabsorption in the intestines. This means that if you are taking pills, there is still the possibility that it will not have any or much effect. You should get your blood tested either way. What country do you live in?
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30 y/o here

long story short due to gut/throat illness, family deaths, laziness/apathy im now 6 yrs into NEEThood.

Have a half decent degree which could get me a job, but have always struggled at application/interview stages particularly where employers are looking for likeable/sociable people which i am not. (due to shit childhood).

Used to have ambitions and hopes but had no clue how to achieve them, everything i considered I was worried it would lead me down another path that wasn't the right one.

With several new job opportunities coming up im considering one of them but Just so much shit to do at once with regards to fixing myself, i dont know where to begin and feel im pretty much going to fuck it up and end up no way better off.
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>>17750581
pernicious anemia

I got diagnosed with this and got told I can't absorb B12 if I ate gluten. I had to have shots of B12 for a few months and now take it in a form that absorbs under the tongue.

Doctors are shit and mine went unchecked for too long. Takes so much energy to do basic things that other people take for granted.

I have to workout, eat crazy healthy and cut out bad habits like alcohol and sugar. This stuff would make a regular person feel amazing, but it just brings me to the level of barely functioning. Keep going as you are and you'll be heading for a crash, take control before that happens.

Give up caffiene too, it won't be easy, but it really is just diminishing returns. You have to take so much just to get to baseline eventually. Anything more gives little effect and not worth the stress on your body.

Take as long as you can off work, cut it down slowly, be prepared for feeling tired as fuck for a few weeks, eventually you'll have more stable energy levels. Plus if you have a hard day your tolerance will be zero and one coffee is super effective.

It's really unfair and no one will understand or give you any special treatment. I've learned that, we gotta take care of ourselves.
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>>17750563

Sounds to me like people did not want you to succeed or did not support you when you needed it. Like many anons in this thread. And because of that, you lashed out, to your gf and the people around you. Action, reaction.

But let me tell you this: I want you to succeed. You took on the world and got so far. And I'm proud of you. But you gotta ask yourself, what's next? Are you going to be a dog and die or are you going for another shot? What's stopping you from doing it again? What's stopping you from applying to a different university? What's stopping you from finding a new love? What you have lost, you have gained in experience and with that experience, and a little faith, you can get there again. I know you can.
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>>17750598

England.

We had the first socialised medicine in the world and it has become a bureaucratic mess which is useless unless you are dying in hospital or experiencing a predictable, age-related problem. I almost died in infancy due to misdiagnosis of asthma as a chest infection, despite both parents having asthma. I had my appendix removed after faking illness to get off school and the diagnstic procedures were so poor they didn't realise. A relative died two years ago in his thirties because they couldn't diagnose a pulmonary embolism, despite him complaining about chest pain and shortness of breath for a few days prior; even after he was in cardiac arrest, they didn't even think of it for over an hour of CPR, by which time he was brain dead.

The malabsorption is usually caused by a lack of intrinsic factor, which can be overcome by huge doses. I am taking tens of thousands times the recommended dose. I know they are having an effect because my symptoms have rolled back a few years. Most noticeably my aerobic capacity - if I ran a few hundred meters it would take up to twenty minutes to recover, but now I can recover in less than a minute.

I fear the damage is already done, though. More than a decade is a long time to be without sufficient levels of a vitamin, and I guess I only survived it at all because my diet had just about enough to slow the degeneration. I've been taking it for about 3 months now, so my blood cells should be almost completely replaced. I don't know how long neurological symptoms should take to fully reverse, but they seemed to plateau after a few weeks, at most.

Maybe I will go to the doctor, but it takes a lot of effort and I always feel worse after visiting than before I went in because they're always so useless.
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>>17750642
>>17750637

If I've learned anything, then it is that the body is quite resilient. I'm positive you both will make a full recovery.

Quitting alcohol, coffee and sigarettes entirely helped me quite a bit. Exercise is also very important.

>got told I can't absorb B12 if I ate gluten.
>no sugar

That sounds fishy, though. Have they diagnosed you with gluten allergy? If not, I do not see why you should avoid it. As for the no sugar, that really sounds like a load of crock. Your body needs fuel, easy as pie.
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Everybody in this thread should watch the following video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiM8mrhqDQo

starting from 1:35.
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>>17750642
Not the other guys replying but I'm in a strangely similar situation. Also 25 and from England. For a year I've slept 12 hours each night, always tired and need more. I piss 20 times every night (its not die of beaties though :^) and drink tons throughout the night. Sleep is always sporadic and it takes me hours to drop off

Not sure why you're working when you're like that. I refuse to work being this tired, because as you said, it's not worth living like this. If my mother wasn't in the equation, I'd be praying to die in my sleep every night. Fortunately I'm on bennies since the immense suffering, guilt and stress gave me a psychotic breakdown. Mental health is fine now though, and I've learned to just accept the suffering like I'm taking a dick up my ass every day as if I'm being victimised in prison (I pretty much am)

Fuck doctors though. I'm constantly hoping I'll find the magic bullet with alternative health. Nutrition can work miracles if you get the right stuff your body needs
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>>17750652
There was something wrong with the villi in my gut which stopped me absorbing B12. Blood tests came back saying I had antibodies caused by gluten which was likely cause of villi problem. It's not 100% I guess, but changing my diet fixed the villi problem.

Sugar (I mean simple sugars) is nothing the doctor told me, I just noticed my energy levels and headaches were better without it. Can still break down other food into fuel. It's just the speed that simple sugars enter and leave the bloodstream means rush and crash. Every bit of energy counts and quick fixes seem to have a payback that's not worth it for me.
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I'm 27 and I masturbate two to three times a night, I think I'm asexual because I have no motivation to find a partner but I'm also afraid because I've never had a partner before that I've gone all the way with. I'm not sure how to meet people at this age.
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can someone please tell me of a low stress low work load job a retard can do because I just got replaced by an 18 year old I was cashiering for six months hated it, almost cracked, need help, I'm 26 its all over man. I barely have anything in my savings rent is due soon, what the fuck do I do, I'm not good at anything.
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>>17750713
pretty soon you will be assigned a robot, and you will be paid for the work the robot does. so dont worry
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>>17750713
Library security guard or page (all i ever see them do is shelve books and idle on their phones)
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>>17750713
>low stress
>low workload

This is why you're 26 and still a lazy fucking retard. If you can't hack the most minimal of low skill, low wage jobs, you really aren't fit for this world. Go to a public hospital, declare you're suicidal, cop to a bunch of mental disorders so you can get certifiably unable to work status, then get your autismbux from the government. Or just kill yourself.
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>>17750708
more to this, I'd walk into a church but I feel like they would look at me like I didn't belong there.
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>>17750448
I know I'm too lazy. It's always been that way. The answer to this is always set small goals and improve over time. That's exactly the kind of self management I'm too lazy and incompetent to handle. If your behavior is too shitty to correct itself, then logically you have no hope of improvement and there's no reason to continue right?
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>>17748681
I'm 26 and completely not miserable with my life and I'll probably be on 4chan till it or I die.

>kissless
>never loved or been in a relationship
>live with mom
>i pay most of the bills, so i dont look like a loser faggot neet
>no friends
>do very little outside video games and movies/tv
>6'5"
>225lbs
>/fit/
>good job
>3 cars, my cars
>about to buy the house ive lived in for 18 years, by myself
>healthy
>weed/psys

The secret is learning about yourself and, shut up, loving yourself, not in an egotistical sense. Maybe I just got genetically lucky but I wouldn't trade my body or mind with anybody else.
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>>17750641

It's nearly impossible to get into another med school after you've been kicked out. Even if you do, it's another 4 years, and I do not have the money. And I am too damaged, I do not feel human.

I do not think I can love anyone else. Not after her. She is seeing someone else, and it pains me endlessly. I have earned this torment. Was our love fake? I regret so much, I should have tried harder to keep her. I should not have let my madness take over me. I don't think anyone will tolerate the damage I suffered in life and its consequences of depression. Even she left and moved on so fast... She was the first one to show me I could be loved.

But thank you very much for the kind words.
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>>17750447
>I´m fucking envious to you fuckers who still have your health left and cant get your head sorted out, i would give anything to get mine back,
Listen up anons! The lesson here is "health is the first wealth."

>>17750642
>I know they are having an effect because my symptoms have rolled back a few years. Most noticeably my aerobic capacity - if I ran a few hundred meters it would take up to twenty minutes to recover, but now I can recover in less than a minute.
Whatever you're doing is working anon. Hopefully the neurologic effects can be rolled back too. I'm really quite surprised the British healthcare system is as bad as your story claims.
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>>17750664

>Not sure why you're working when you're like that

Bennies are extremely stressful because they're constantly trying to take them away. I briefly collected JSA after university and they managed to sanction me within the first 2 months; every week I'd have a different advisor who wanted me to do something different, so they kept giving me warnings every week for doing exactly as I was told the week prior.

It's only 4 hours a day, but I've worked full time before and it's completely unliveable; just alternating working, doing the bare minimum to stay alive, and sleeping. Sleeping all weekend to make up for the week. I'd frequently get injured too because I was so tired, pulling muscles or crushing my hands.

>>17751028

Going to see if a higher dose works better.

Apparently 1 mg a day isn't always sufficient, so I've gone for 10 mg to see if it has any more effect.
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It's weird being 27. Too far into the game to change anything but still far from the end. So you're just stuck.
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>>17750447
Don't give up. You CAN still do what your "heart" desires!
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Just for perspectives, in some European countries, it's not rare for people to start their degrees in mid-late 20s.
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>>17751451
I felt that way, thought there was no future. Got /fit/, went to university at 30 (adult access courses are just a year).

You'd think 30 is too old, but I didn't have the discipline at 18, plus I was busy chasing money which didn't make me happy. Just studied what I love and actually now as well paid or better than most of my friends now plus I have a job I love.

Not too late for you. On the downside I have crippling anxiety from some tragic events, but working through it with a good counsellor. Too embarrassed to tell work, but I work from home mostly so it doesn't interfere too much. Kinda isolated myself from people.

Seems like whenever one part of your life improves, another part collapses. Wish I had a pause button for the world.
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I wish I had started HRT when I was 19 like I wanted to, but I was afraid. As time went on, I had more to lose.

Now I am old. The life I could have lived is long gone.
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>20 years old
>Really don't want to be a part of this world
>Just want to watch cartoons and draw porn all day
>Feel no joy from conversing with others
>Diagnosed Aspergers

Was anyone here like me/knows someone like me?
How did you/they turn out?

My father is handing me the ownership of the house I've grown up in, and I don't care if I work at Wal-mart until I die as long as I'm good at drawing.
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>>17751883
I know it's not a huge difference but I'm basically in your position right now at 23 except I don't have aspergers. (I'm probably a schizoid but I hide it too well.)

I like where I'm at right now. My family I left across the country hate that I don't stay in touch a lot, but I've made some friends I only occasionally see (perfect, because I wouldn't like seeing them too much) and the rest of the time I can spend catching up on the shows/movies I want to watch, play video games with friends online from back home, or just kind of dick around with random hobbies. (started learning German and the ocarina for shits and giggles...gonna start growing some plants and making candles because why not?)

I'm comfy.
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>25
>only make $110k
>was expecting to be making $150k at least at this age
>can't decide what kind of portfolio manager to become as a backup career
>can't decide what to ditch this industry for eventually
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>>17751920
Try making $17k and some how not be eligible for any type of government support.
I can relate to the whole not being sure what to do with life later on. Should I actually go with what I want or something that will be profitable?
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>>17751970
>not be eligible for any type of government support
You're white and hetero aren't you?
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>>17751992
I don't understand why white people are forced with a special "privilege" just for being white.

This world is a hell-hole, and your skin color isn't going to get you out of it.
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>>17751970
Profit now party later
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>>17751992
Try again.
Black and female. No kids though.
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>>17748681
26 yo khv virgin who has just discovered the joys of alcohol. It really fixes everything, I highly recommend it.
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>>17752089
I'll marry you if you want.
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>>17751507
>Seems like whenever one part of your life improves, another part collapses. Wish I had a pause button for the world.
This is exactly the mechanic my life functions on. The thing is, there is no balance.
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>>17751920
>25
>only make $110k
>was expecting to be making $150k at least at this age
Fuck you!
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>>17752089
>Black and female
Tell me, do you have trouble attracting men as much as I do attracting women?

>Asian/white male
>but most of society only sees me as Asian
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>>17752082
it is definitely way better to be white though. especially in the states there is institutionalized racism that is very real that white people do not have to deal with.
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>>17753125
Such as having to hear how you benefit from racism and everyone else can see it but not you. And don't you dare trying to say you don't see it.
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>>17753157
yeah and i think that has alot to do with why trump won. white people are sick of constantly being told theyre wrong or invalid or whatever. funny how after the first black president there is an extreme over correction with a guy whose campaign slogan was basically make america white again
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>>17749938
High five fellow 28 year old virgin. At least you are around a woman !
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>>17752265
I'm so fat, I'll kill you by being on top.
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26, I'm seriously thinking about killing myself. I'm just an nonfunctional adult, can't adjust to the world at all.
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>>17753268
Same here, we have so much in common!

I guess we'll just have to do it like seals.
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26, started college and I'll graduate when I'm 29. Have zero work experience.

My life is kind of a joke.
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>>17749938
>>17753258
I read somewhere that nearly 10% of the US population are still virgins at 30. It isn't as unusual as many people think.
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>>17753305
You've got 3 years, that's tons of time to get work experience. Go hit up your teachers for internships.
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>>17753333
Quads can't lie !
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>>17753305
I just graduated at 30. I started a new job two weeks ago, in my major, even. Which is remarkable, because a lot of kids are struggling to find jobs in their field.

Have you never worked a single day in your life? No McDonalds, no Walmart, NOTHING? That's a problem if the answer is yes, Like >>17753349
said, you need to get an internship. You should have at least 3 under your belt by the time you graduate. You'll have a job when you walk. Fail to do any internships, and yeah, you may as well off yourself. You're never getting hired anywhere.
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>>17753284
The world has changed, now girls are only interested in the top % of guys and would never bother with any guy that isn't. Honestly if I'm still in this situation by the time I hit 30 I'm 100% going to kill myself. I'm 29 now so soon I will be released from this hell.
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>>17753305
I was in the same boat, except I had a 10yr gap due to illness. Graduating next year at 34, spent my third year doing an internship.

Don't know about your country, but we have graduate schemes where you're competing with a bunch of 21yr olds who also have no experience. Just one year or even summer internship will put you ahead of the other graduates.
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>>17753333
I haven't seen any figures in a long time, but it was much lower than that.
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>>17753508
Åre you sure you're not setting your standards too high? 9/10 guys will more often than not drop their standards to a 7/10 girl. There's plenty of 5/10s who are not gonna be anything more than a one time drunken mistake to the top % of men.
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>>17753783
>There's plenty of 5/10s who are not gonna be anything more than a one time drunken mistake to the top % of men.
To a hundred of the top % of men you mean.
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>>17753820
Well these girls might be looking for a relationship and not actually fucking those top men.
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>>17753850
Yes. For a relationship for that top % of men. But all they get is dick. Heaps of dick. Mountains of dick. So ronery.
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>>17753268
I'll support us both and you can spend all day working out.
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>>17753268
Not me but I am somewhat pudgy.
In reality, I'm more interested in getting my shit together than dick. Sorry. I'll keep you in mind though.
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>>17752925
I do actually.
It might be the fact that I don't really leave the house except to go to work and buy food.
Or it might be the skin on my face. I get a pimple, it goes away after only a day buuuuut my skin hyperpigements and I'm left with a super dark spot where the pimple was. There's at least 20 or so on my face currently.

The only time men approach me is when it's dark out and I assume they can't see all the marks.
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>>17750447
Thank you for sharing your experience. Why were the cops coming after you, how did you even manage to attract them in the first place?
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25. Living with my folks in a shitty town where there's nowhere to go. In the city I can walk around, watch people, here I go out and there's nothing.
These days I've been doing nothing but sitting at the computer all day, doing fucking nothing.
I am here because major economical problems when I moved out to a new city last year.
I'm sick of this but if I move out I fear the same problems. So I came to git gud at computer stuff which is the only thing I can think of that I could do. But I do nothing but come to stupid websites.
I also keep jumping between computer subjects and I can't help it so it hinders progress, I get caught by purist ideas about software, and plus I can't get myself to read these thick technical books without getting burnt out.
So..... agh. Right now I only want to get away from the computer. Maybe I should just stop using the internet, though I am very much addicted....
...... the fuck do I do?
schedule myself? Take my wirelessless (or, driverless) laptop away from the router and hack this project?
I'll try that.
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so talking to this girl whos a few years younger than me. Sometimes she teases me and says "hey Mr Awkward" or "you're so awkward". But the thing is she says it in a flirty tone, and later on says I'm cute. But... I'm very self conscious. So hearing that makes me really uncomfortable.. am I actually fucking awkward as fuck?
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>>17750532
Have you tried lion's mane mushroom supplements? If not, it's good for neurological damage.
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>27
>kv
>never had a date

I sound like a meme, but it's true. I'm 27 years old, I've never been on a date, and I've never kissed a girl. Actually, I had one kiss when I was seven with the girl my mom babysat (we were the same age), but I don't know if that counts.

I've asked people out, but have been rejected every time(some where quite particular about the word "never").

I can make conversation just fine. People tend to like me, or at least don't outwardly dislike me, which includes women. That's never usually been the problem.

I feel like I should care about it, but I don't know that I actually do.

I just don't know anymore.
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>>17750746
If you feel like you don't belong, maybe you're going to the wrong church?
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>>17751920
How many yachts do you have to maintain, cheif?
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Ok, I'll bite.

>30
>lived in other country, had an ok but dead-end job
>no friends,
>every girl I asked out rejected me
>had enough, moved back to US of A, now live with folks
>haven't found a job in over a year
>old friends moved out, got married, have jobs in other cities
>no hope for me

Shit, I wish life had a reset button.
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>>17748681
I'll be joining in about 1.2 years family
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>>17754376
Hey at least you try, there's been many people. who "knowing" that they're are gonna fail, don't even try. So i'd say you're way ahead and just keep going but have a life on your own man, have a goal which doesn't involve women, a goal you think is for you, for the better of you, something you think matters (girls can't count here)

And besides girl finding that attractive in a man, just remember it doesn't realy matter to have a girl or no. Please do remember this.
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>>17754527

I can't say that I have a life of my own, though. I've been plagued with depression and shit for my whole life.

Getting a GF isn't a goal, not anymore. I gave that up a long, long time ago because it wasn't worth the hassle with the other shit.

That being said, I don't really have a goal at all anymore. I had a goal when I started college again last year, but I just hit a wall and broke down, stopped going to classes, and brought my 4.0 down to a 2.7 because... I don't even know.

Truth be told, I'm not in a good spot, and haven't been for awhile, now.
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>>17754632
go to moodgym(dot)anu.enu.au/welcome

Learn at least the first chapter, put your balls into it.

You'll learn that the way one feels, is a response to the way we think.

Take Jake, for example, he losses his gf. Rather, she dumps him. And he starts getting all.. "no one's gonna love me, i'll die alone" kind of way. So when he thinks that, what's the obvious reaction? He feels sad, lonely, depressed, etc. And the next step? The reaction to that is, he sulks, he goes to his room and probably feels bad about himself and etc etc.

Now take Sully, he was also dump by his gf (bitches be crazy man) anyways, he thinks this way:
"Man, dang, what a shit it didn't work out, but hey, i tried. I mean, if she didn't like me, i can't be anything different, I'm me, and if I am this, it's because I WANT to be this. I can't change for other people (cause you know that doesn't work out), and even if i tried, and acomplished being a fake person just to be with her, I'd eventually feel sad, or bored, or fake, because that's not me, that's not who they like. Anyways, maybe i can go read that ol' book or hit the sack, tomorrow will be another day" (day in which you can do just about anything man, learn something, earn patience, and please please stop masturbating excessively, do it once every month, yes fucker, once every month, everything requires hard work. And hey, this is not going to be easy. And you don't have to get it at first, and may even fail and fail again, but man, everybody is fucking stupid, but control yourself, push yourself, and you'll be rewarded. I promise.

Anyway the lesson about the history is that, Sully, decided to see it differently. He may have been sad, yes, but a little optimistic about a new day. He probably woke up the next day feeling better than Jake, who got drunk and ate a lot of icecream.

The thing is that, the "event", didn't changed, it was the same piece of shit that happened, but their mindsets, they way to react, was different,
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>>17754685

Been there and done that, sorry. I understand the whole concept, I understand the whole concept of self-talk and how to improve it, and blah blah blah.

Before I went back to college, I tried that whole package, and really stuck with it. I lost weight, I had more friends, I had a social life, ect, but I wasn't happy. Eventually I hit a point and just collapsed. I lost my job, my friends, my apartment, most of my shit, ect, and I never really recovered.

I'm just broken, and a new outlook isn't enough to fix me.
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>>17754685
Sorry, didn't have more space, anyways, was different. And it made them feel different.

The thing is, we are all like Jake sometimes, (some more than others) and like Sully at very very scarce times. We feel this or that way.

The thing is your mindset, and that applies to all. You know man, i used to insult myself about everything all the time. I dropped a single spoon, or the glass, or anything (and I'd be like=
Man I'm so stupid. Man you're so idiot.

And i used to do that all day man, seriously. So, imagine that on average, you fail about 100 times a day. Let's reduce that to 50 at least, simple things.
And you tell that to yourself 50 times!
I am so stupid, damn.

I didn't even had to think that man, i mean, dropping a spoon or not, is not proving me being stupid or not, it was silly, just silly.

Now with the "big" crushing events, let's say you apply to a job, and you get really nervous, and you get all squeaky and sweaty, so you fail. You do, it doesn't goes well, the interviewer didn't treat you nice, and even if he had done it, you would've messed up.

Now look at Jake's reaction=
"Oh man I am such an idiot, i always mess up, fuck..." He sulked and went to leech more money from someone else the rest of his day,/couple of months. He decided he was too ashamed to go any more interviews. Which eventually made him feel useless, which eventually made him feel very, very, sad.

Now Sully, man, he passed through the same event, but he went out of the hall, and on his way to the bus, he thought=

"Man, that sure didn't go well, I noticed i didn´t know the answer to this/that question...
And i really got nervous, but hey, if i do this once, or twice or a 20 times more, I'll eventually be less shy, nor nervous, it didn't go well this time, but man, I can get it. I can do that job, and if I don't know how to do it, I just learn, what's the big deal, heh."
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>>17754704

Sully went to his house that afternoon a little disappointed, but decided to write the questions he didn't know the answer to. And decided to read at least five lines of the book about the work he wanted. (he was very lazy) but hey, at least he was now five lines better than the guy five minutes before) and if he gave a little bit of time every week, every month, perhaps in a year he would finish it, and learn and be more prepared for that job he wanted" Sully slept a little bit better than Jake that afternoon.

So, i learned this in that page bro. It doesn't give you the answer, but helps you learning something. And i didn't even finish the course, but hey, i learnt something, didn't I?

Anyways, >>17754701, perhaps you're broken, or just lazy, or you like being there, then just stay there. Best of luck, you decide the way you want your life to be. :)
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>>17754713

If I had my choice, I wouldn't be here at all, actually, but that's taboo. Technically I do have that choice, and I keep having to try and convince myself not to make it.
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>>17754713
>and if he gave a little bit of time every week, every month, perhaps in a year he would finish it, and learn and be more prepared for that job he wanted"
And in the meantime he ate roots and dirt and slept in a hole in the ground? Or where did his money come from?

That attitude is only possible when you have literally all the needs in life provided for, so you can fuck around and it's all good regardless.
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40+ ancientfag reporting in
joints ache and crack on a daily basis
can't do some physical things that were no problem 10 years ago
rapidly losing interest in sex
life is dull
wondering who the old cunt in the mirror is
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I'm 26 years old

I found out yesterday that my fathers heart is failing


I haven't spoken to anyone in my family in 2 years. We were never a close family and always argued. Either my father would smack us around or my mother would get piss drunk and scream at us all. I had drug problems a few years ago but managed to clean up almost 2 years ago. Right before I quit however I saw my mothers private messages with my sister on facebook saying how she wished she never had me and how much they despise me. After that I didn't acknowledge a single thing they said or did, packed my shit and left. I live in a shithole apartment by myself and have no friends or family to speak to. Yesterday my mother left a message on the answering machine saying that my fathers heart was failing and that he's been in and out of the hospital. I have no idea if he could die tomorrow or not, she didn't say. She did however say that it would be nice for me to see him.

We were that stereotypical family that screamed, hit and belittled each other. My hatred for my father and mother is still just as strong as the day I packed up and left. But for some reason I feel obligated to make an appearance and speak to my family again. I have no idea what to do. I don't even know what I'm doing with my life. Most of me wants my father to die a painful death but a sliver of me wants to see how he's doing.

Outside of work I don't talk to anyone or do anything. I sit in my chair and watch youtube til I fall asleep. My family has made me into an apathetic monster. I'm stuck between crying and reaching out to my father or continuing on with my life and forgetting that I ever had a family.

I appreciate any advice on what I should do. Thank you.
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>Thread for miserable people
>Is taken over by normies on the very first reply
Every fuckin' time.
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>>17748681

31 and go to community college.

I know that I'm about 10 years behind in life but honestly, I'm pretty fucking happy since I only look 24 and I get to fuck 18-21 year old grillz I meet in class.

No health problems, own my own car/condo, no debt, get paid to go to college and fuck college sluts?

If that isn't the American Dream then I don't know what is.
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>>17754951
>Not having health problems is part of the american dream
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....man....
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34, live at home, no career or gf. Go me.

Spent my 20s completely drifting and wasting away. Lived for the weekend and never saved or had any career plan. I figured things would just magically happen. Looking back, I was severely emotionally stunted. Extenuating circumstances up to a point: I had social anxiety, depression, very low self-esteem etc. I was just never prepared for adult life I guess. My parents divorced when I was very young and it didn't hit me till I was much older how much it affected me. Over it now though. Gf left me 3 years ago. Still can't get over it and has been no one since and with nothing on the horizon. Pointless hoping for a relationship at my age with my pathetic situation. Younger girls are all fucking Chads, women in their late 20s/early 30s are all career obsessed and looking for a hubby with prospects. I blew it.

I'm at that point where I now have to pick up the pieces of my life and start trying to make up for some lost time. All my friends are getting married etc, as you would expect for people in their 30s. I am literally 10+ years behind everyone else. Its a constant burden but all I can do now is try and claw back some sort of life now that I no longer suffer with regular depression and don't sperg at the slightest social interaction. I am still afraid of life in general really, I just deal with things better than I used to.

Whinge whinge fucking whinge.
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>>17754951
Nice! Have you always looked younger than your actual age? I'm 24 and most people think I look 18-19. I know I'm not bad looking either so I'm starting to think I have a lot to look forward to in my 30s. Do you ever bring up your age?
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>>17753987
>I get a pimple, it goes away after only a day buuuuut my skin hyperpigements and I'm left with a super dark spot where the pimple was.
When the pimple is gone, you need to put aloe where it was every night until it heals completely. That should minimize scarring. I had this problem with the last one I had…even though I treated it do it would go away faster.
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>>17754306
Dude, she's interested…*talk to her*!!!
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>>17755866
>The only option that seems to work is starting your own small business or getting into something involving selling or business related stuff.
In other words options for which you'd have to have had a shitload of contacts through life and a lot of resources/money/etc. so that you can start it from scratch. You can't just up and do it if you don't know anyone in whatever business you want to start.
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>>17755563
I'm in your situation except i'm 28 years old.
The only option that seems to work is starting your own small business or getting into something involving selling or business related stuff. Business owners make significantly more than people who have regular jobs. And right now, you have so little going on in your life that the business is something you can spend all your time focusing on.

It's the only way I can think to catch up to everybody else and still retire decades before they do. It's just as hard or a little harder than a regular job to own a business but it pays a hell of a lot more. Even if it took you 10 years to make that successful business you would retire in your mid 40s. That gives you more than 50 years to live however you want in retirement before you die provided you live to be 100.


If you're interested in learning more there are books and free resources out there on starting a small business.
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>>17755874
Look up how many business fail, by percentage, each year, and look up how much of your own money you have to invest in it and how many years until it pays off. Now calculate how many failed business you can afford, time-wise and money-wise.

Doesn't look good, does it.
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>>17755874

>>17755563 here

I forgot to add, I tried running an online business for 4 years and it has failed miserably.

I at least have the pragmatism and have overcome my neurotic pride enough to accept that I am simply not cut out for business. It really is nowhere near as easy as some people make out. It SOUNDS impressive. But after a while you get tired of telling people you are self-employed with your own online business when the reality is that you are earning the equivalent of well below minimum wage.

I've had enough of lying to myself and others now. Its time to accept my fate, get a shit job and just grind out the years, Maybe if I get a break I could be a manager or some shit by the time I'm 40. Highly unlikely with my personality traits and complete resentment of authority figures
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>>17755874

I should also add however that if you want to start a business, by all means go for it. Don't listen to naysayers on 4chan of all places. Just know that it really isn't easy. I was 28 when I started my business and even though I accepted intellectually that success is not guaranteed, I still thought I'd make a lot of money in a short space of time. Maybe your ideas are better than mine. Maybe you have more mental fortitude and drive than I do.

If it gives you some hope and you have an idea and want to pursue it, go for it man. If it doesn't work out at least you still have enough years to accept your fate like I have done and get a job. There will always be shit jobs out there no matter how old you are.
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>>17756078
>by all means go for it.
*if you have free money to live on and finance it... but if you do why are you starting one in the first place.
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>>17754934
Fuck them. They are terrible people and it's just your biology telling you should care.
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>>17755874

I've put legitimate thought into starting a janitorial company because I know the work, but I'm afraid of myself. I've been fighting depression my whole life, and motivation never lasts, no matter how much I fuel it.
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Hey how do you pick out an apartment? How did you find your living situation? I made a thread but I'm guessing most of this board is too young to know anything about it.

>>17756640

reply either there or here. don't matter.
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27 here. Having a comfy night just browsing 4chan and chugging rolling rock with some techno playing.

Might go to a club or wine bar later tonight to scope out qt's because things are falling apart between me and my chinese gf (I told her I don't want to marry her).

American women definitely do suck, that's one things I've been realizing over the past year. If they don't already weight more than 150 pounds they're incredibly narcissistic and entitled.
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>>17748784
>The timing is bad
How so? Couldn't be better - now you're horny and have girls who want to fuck you. Sound ideal to me.
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I am 25 and I think it is about time for me to admit to myself I have no real friends at all. At least, not in real life.

How do I make friends?
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>>17755874
most businesses fail. most people aren't donald trump. most people aren't even tiffany trump.
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>>17757050
adults don't have friends.
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>>17757050
Fuck knows. After 25+ (27 here) most people's social circles are formed, even niche circles are fully formed.

I'm still kicking myself for not looking for other geeks and nerds outside of my area while I was in my teens.
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>>17757050
I got tired of my friends disappearing into kids and marriage and was finding my social life lacking, so I ended up joining a few meetup groups.

At first I thought it'd be a bunch of losers too damaged to have fallen into the usual way of life. I was pleasantly surprised to find they were very similar to me. Great jobs, variety of interests, intelligent and enjoying their way of life too much to give it up.

We'd all lost friends to the same trap and were simply missing people to do stuff with that we love doing. Now we can continue our lives as we want with new friends.

This may not be your situation, but I still recommend meetup groups. Shared interests or even just a social group. Everyone is there in the same boat as you, not knowing anyone and looking for friends, You may hit it off with some.
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>>17757150
>At first I thought it'd be a bunch of losers too damaged to have fallen into the usual way of life. I was pleasantly surprised to find they were very similar to me. Great jobs, variety of interests, intelligent and enjoying their way of life too much to give it up.

I would prefer it to be a bunch of losers, I mean, joining a geek/gaming/boardgame meetup and finding it to be filled with cool people would make feel like an outsider in my own niche. Kinda too late now I guess, since 'geek' is cool now.

Meeting up with loser poses its own problems but still, you'd be among your own kind.
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>>17757195
Aside from the social groups that do have more normies, I'm in a whole bunch of programming groups plus an anime group. It's quite a mix of social abilities really. Maybe you don't see the losers, a lot of people try to cover that up. Everyone is so crazy into this stuff, we totally nerd out and the quieter ones do come out of their shell. They're all so different but still see them as my own kind.
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>>17750447
Damn Anon. I'm sorry to hear this shit. It's totally understandable how fucked up you are. It makes me sad that you are, but it's completely normal considering your circumstances.

I hope you get some kind of miracle man.
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>>17754376
>People tend to like me, or at least don't outwardly dislike me, which includes women.

Being tolerated is different from being liked.

You know those anime waifu's that anons tend to have kind of remind of those playboy pin-ups, but a weeb, non-threatening and even more idealized version. But the thing is, how do you guys get over the fact they're not real?

I mean, I'm slowly going crazy that I've not been laid, surrounded by pretty/hot/cool chicks that I don't have a chance with or have never had any significant female attention.

Being obessed by something that's not real must drive you insane.
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>>17756773
no all of em, but definitely the vast majority.

Most of all people actually are entitled vapid 'users'. It's really sad man... losing faith in humanity.
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>>17757050
All my friends are from work. I think I got really lucky with my coworkers.
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I'm getting divorced at 25 and I absolutely hate it. I never thought it would be something I would ever do. It needs to happen though. He holds me back so much and is the definition of "trailer trash". He doesn't want to be an adult or a father to his kids. (NOT MINE!) Responsibility is just something he doesn't understand. When I see him now it's with a whole different perspective and I realize how blind and dumb I was the whole time. Insecurities and love can make you do some dumb as fuck things.

Still...it kills me to go through with the divorce. I feel like I'm betraying the last part of myself I had left.
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On paper I should be a happy and successful person.

But I've never been able to follow through with anything in my life. I have this bubbling self-hatred that makes me yell at myself when I'm sitting alone in my car, replay negative thoughts in my head as I fall asleep, secretly suspect that everyone I meet despises me, and basically assume that I am unworthy of love or attention.

I am incapable of nurturing kindness or affection with others. I made almost no friends in college, and most of my school friends (I was somewhat happier in school) are gone. I have a very small circle of friends who basically keep hanging out with me because they have nothing better to do, or at least that's what my brain tells me.

I toil through every day, any minor thing that goes wrong is enough to ruin my mood, and I just want to sleep on my free time. I suspect that I have a depressive or anxious disorder, but I am terrified/ambivalent about seeking professional help. I feel like I have sabotaged each and every one of my chances at happiness over the past years, and now it's too late.

Whenever I start dating someone, they soon realize that I have no real circle of friends, and that is obviously a red flag to them. The last serious relationship I had ended when I found out that he was cheating on me, and that tanked my self-esteem.

Everyone agrees that I am attractive, smart, funny, and even unusual. People assume that I'm single because I like it that way. But in reality I suspect that I've lost the capacity to love and genuinely care for others.

I would take comfort in my career if it weren't stagnating and I wasn't toiling away in an overworked, underpaid position while seeing all my classmates from University going to the beach in the afternoon or backpacking through Europe.

I feel like it's too late in the race to rebuild my life and reach normalcy. I feel like I'll just continue to flail about wildly until I can't anymore.
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I'm already trying to cope with the fact that no girl whatsoever will consider me more than a friend, (no I do not use a fedora) and 2 years away to become a wizard, so yup that's it I'm playing videogames until I get the sweet embrace of death....reading all this makes me wonder if we do really have any choice at all...seems like there is always who goes trough the same shit...just different places and different faces, ironically I guess that's what I'm supposed to be/do....
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>>17757150

That sounds somewhat inspiring. I have a small but solid group of friends I have known my whole life. They aren't going anywhere now but marriages and LTR's mean I see them rarely and we never do stuff together. I thought about meetup groups but it always felt like it would be desperate and awkward. Suppose I could give it a go. Need to do something with my weekends, browsing fucking 4chan and online dating profiles in your 30s is just fucking sad and boring.
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>>17757311
>Everyone but me is an asshole
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>>17757195
>>I would prefer it to be a bunch of losers, I mean, joining a geek/gaming/boardgame meetup and finding it to be filled with cool people would make feel like an outsider in my own niche.
Exactly the same here. And there are no meetup groups in my country anyway.
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>>17757150
>so I ended up joining a few meetup groups.
Just what did you join? All I really saw was a bunch of hiking groups and one music group that appeared to have died off. At best I've been thinking of joining a group for board games and such even though I'm not exactly enthusiastic about it.
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>>17758063
>>17758051

Not a board gamer I admit but I have been to a few board game meetups over the years.

Autism levels off the scale
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bumping for OAPs
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>Suggest meetup groups
Those of you anons in meetup groups, do you live in or within half an hour of a big city? If you do, I can see why it's working for you. I live in the suburbs though, and meetup doesn't work here. Everything is too fucking far away for me to think about investing the time and money. All the interesting groups are in the city, and I live too far away from there and don't make enough money to go on a regular basis.
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>>17757290
>That I don't have a chance with
How do you know? Ever asked out any of them?
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sup. i've found that ranting/relisting the problems of my life does nothing to help solve them. doesn't even really help with venting, it's just another negative experience.

i am 25+ and miserable though!

>>17757395
that sucks, what part of yourself are you betraying?

>>17757432
maybe you could find happiness in a monastic lifestyle.

>>17758537
don't be such a pussy and drive to the city.
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25 here. Recently a 15 years old girl told me that she likes me. Not saying that I'm in some sort of fucked up dilemma. It's just that I realized how old I am right now even though I still feel like a kid. It made me think.

Fuck.
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>>17759368
Fuck you! I live over an hour away if I drive. I've done the math. It's very costly. I won't even have the energy to drive back, and I'd be stupid enough to attempt to.
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>be 24
>good looking
>tall, average build, large cock
>stable job, good money, live on my own, reliable car(s)
>NEET

All I want is a fuck buddy. :( Relationships aren't for me.
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>24

Sorry kid. Come. Back next year when your life fallen apart.
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Do you have to be miserable to post here? I'm 30 but pretty satisfied overall with life, even if my life isn't exactly perfect. I've learned to appreciate the things I have, and not really worry about stupid shit.
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>>17748724
sex isn't that important and if you are honestly concerned with it you can take a cialis or a the other one the blue one???? and that shit will make you have a painfully hard boner like your shit will grow another inch from all the blood.

Otherwise I think you are borrowing worry for something you really don't need to be concerned with. Unless you work as a porn star who cant get it up. It probably is entirely a confidence issue so don't dwell on it.

>>17749794
Your still a young man don't sweat it. Your first real full time job is going to be searching and applying for a full time job. Give it time be patient with yourself. If you don't know where to meet people find some free local events and just chat with strangers at the event. Focus on finding a job you enjoy and can support your lifestyle and debt. The rest will come in time dont sweat it.

>>17750604
Apply to any and all jobs update your resume and post it on all the head hunting aggregate sites. Start a regular sleep schedule where you get up at 7 am every morning every day of every month the first two weeks are the hardest just do your best.

Take every interview option that comes your way and attend each interview to get comfortable with interviews. Interview for jobs you dont even want and then just have fun with the interview so long as you don't make your hiring company or head hunter look bad. You will learn to work the room and even come off as charming or likeable even if you aren't once in the workplace you should focus on your work anyways.
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>>17750863
>kissless
not important
>never loved or been in a relationship
not important
>live with mom
not important
>i pay most of the bills, so i dont look like a loser faggot neet
thats perfect
>no friends
if you start going out into the nearby nightlife you can make some friends. I don't mean bars or clubs but sometimes a speakeasy hole in the wall is a nice place to meet people. Join some free kickball league or open field yoga events and you can meet people just by jibber jabbering with strangers.
>do very little outside video games and movies/tv
start doing more creative activities free write as it were. get a spiral notebook and just write a short story about nonsense or doodle some little scribbles. If you're handy make something or build clay figures or pottery. You'd be surprised how satisfying it is to be in consternation by something you want a certain way and can't get. When you finally finish it regardless of the quality but done the best you could you will have made something which most people don't do these days.
>6'5"
good
>225lbs
uhoh your body mass index is a little high you might want to start a diet of less calories over time to prevent cardiovascular disease but i dont know your diet requirements
>/fit/
excellent remember 3 times a week or more to engage in vigorous activity
>good job
excellent make sure you are always promptly on time and take responsibility for your duties
>3 cars, my cars
if they are all paid for then fine accomplishment
>about to buy the house ive lived in for 18 years, by myself
if you can afford it and keep up the mortgage another excellent accomplishment
>healthy
wonderful
>weed/psys
I'll bite my tongue not because I disagree with experimentation but because I don't know the degree to which you indulge.

PMA is the key positive mental attitude will make it easier to make friends and meet people
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>>17751920
tomfoolery at it's finest. If any of this is true post your net worth and bank balances in screenshots with your degree. Don't forget to block out all the identifying information in the photos. You may need to find a mentor to help you reach a new level in your career find some seniors in lateral fields or consider what it is about work that satisfies you so you can find another job you enjoy that fulfills those aspects.

>>17754057
You need to setup a schedule which takes you out of the house. Try going to the local library and focus on python programming. Just learn what you can about python programming. You don't need to write any code or anything but learn about it so you can begin a basic understanding of a computer backworking. Consider taking some computer literacy and or entry level programming or A+ certification classes at the local community college if you can afford it.

>>17754502
Set some goals write them down and dedicate an hour every day that will help lead you towards those goals. Make sure it's something quantifiable that you can record. Tell your parents or anyone listening about those goals and what you are doing to achieve them. So long as you set an objective and can achieve it you will be getting better and closer to your goal. It's a journey starts with but a single step approach but it works.
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>>17759917
>6'5"
>225lbs
>uhoh your body mass index is a little high you might want to start a diet of less calories over time to prevent cardiovascular disease but i dont know your diet requirements
body mass index means jack shit if someone lifts
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>>17754823
You need a hobby specifically one that will involve working with your hands whether it's weaving baskets, knitting, cooking, or painting. Maybe if you are feeling really randy playing an instrument like the trumpet or guitar. You aren't going to like it until you get good at it, and you wont get good at it until you've done it long enough to be good at it. I know it sounds like a catch 22 but if someone complains life is dull it's due to the fact they aren't doing something exciting. Excitement doesn't need to be jumping out of a plane to parachute or traveling for extragent costs, hell going for a hike and drawing a map of the area can be exciting if you make it. The use of your hands is an important aspect due to the nature of flow, when you get absorbed in doing something with your hands you will soon find the time has slipped away from you. Once you like what you are doing you'll look forward to holidays and time off so you can spend more time doing whatever that hobby is you make.

>>17757395
getting out of a bad relationship is the first step to a healthier happier life. Take time away from romantic relationships afterwards so you can focus on yourself and finding what you feel is important in life. This will help you head towards a new goal and work towards it. You aren't betraying any part of yourself or him you are getting a new lease on happiness and freedom from the stress of a codependent relationship.
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>>17757401
it sounds like your wallowing in self pity. you need to be careful of letting depression be a comfort food. you should try a more active lifestyle join some free yoga classes at a community center or equivalent.

Don't compare yourself to others stop using facebook to look at what others are doing and focus more on having experiences rather than getting into a relationship. You can't love nobody till you love you so when you do love somebody you know what to do.

If you work a full time job with healthcare talk to your doctor about xanax or general anxiety. You can get a alprazolam prescription for work so the days seem shorter and you wont be so hard on yourself when something goes wrong. Don't concern yourself with normalcy focus on finding things that do make you happy. I recommended some physical fitness because exercise is basically free endorphins for working out.
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>>17759961
you're focusing on the one negative aspect of the post. that said cardiovascular health is even more important for people who lift since they often carry more weight on their frame since muscle is denser than fat.
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>>17760003
>you're focusing on the one negative aspect of the post
because I didn't have any other objections
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>>17758537
I do live in London, but right on the outskirts. People don't realise just how big the city is, it can take hours to get from one end to the other.

I set up a group in my area of London, because I was too lazy to spend an hour plus to get to the groups I was interested in. Factor in rush hour and your journey time goes up even more.

Maybe try to set up a meetup in your area? I looked at other meetupstores for people close to me and messaged them about the local group. Worked really well.
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>>17758537
Yes but I started attending them when I lived 3-4h away. I'd just take a bus and spend the day in the city.
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>>17759050
>How do you know? Ever asked out any of them?

I don't run in the same circles as them...or in any circles really, I just have one parasitic friend.

I'd lower my standards but there literally is no one to lower it to. It's like all the average and ugly girls decided to cash in their chips.
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>31
>small apt
>small car
>cute gf
>easy 9-5 job
>$150k net worth

Live light, stay organized and show up.
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>>17759917
Why anon, I wasn't aware you had the final word on what aspects of someone's life were important, not important, good, bad, etc.

By all means, share with us your credentials that entitles you to make such judgments.
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>>17760191
Fuck you!
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My work consists of interacing with the public in a very stressful environment. The last thing I want to think about on the weekends is socializing. Yet I know my life won't go anywhere if I don't. I recently earned another certification so my employability should be higher now. The job pays decently (still underpaid though) and the benefits are great.

I am completely drained on weekends. It takes me 2 days just to recover. But then I have to do it all over again. How do I reconcile socializing when it's the last thing I want to do on the weekends? I'm trapped.
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>>17760396
Btw, I'm in my 30s. I don't feel like talking about the rest of my situation atm.
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>>17760191
You're doing it right, except for the part where you're pissing money away on rent rather than getting in on a solid home investment.

Hope you're not planning on buying more than a year from now. The market's going to fuck you after Emperor Trump's first policies hit the books.
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22 female

I don't want to live anymore and I don't know why. I have everything going on for me, a job, still going to fkn school, live by myself, a good family. I still don't want to live, I know that makes me selfish. I cant tell my family, rarely takes seriously. Can't tell my one friend, she'll feel obligated to help and I don't want help. I don't need her to hold my hand and tell me everything ok when I don't feel like it's ok. I don't know how this began or if there even a before?? I don't want to say I'm depress because I've never gone to the doctor for feeling sad, boohoo sad little patient feeling a little blue. I know what to do, i have the means for it. I don't want to die, I just don't want to live anymore.
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not really a regular in here but have any of you thought of leaving the country? one of my hs friends went to thailand to teach english is having the time of his life.
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>>17760414

You don't know how it hurts too live. Unless you have pain every single moment of your life; you are not allowed to die.
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I'm 27
I'm drunk as hell
I live with my sister
I'm a virgin
I'm joining the military

Now you know me
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>>17760414
Focus on reasing thread titles asshole.
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>>17760503
youre gonna get grilled hard about the virgin shit. then probably end up losing it to some nasty hooker 5 minutes off base. might as well get it over first with a good looking hooker
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>>17760510
I'm in shape though I hope I can get it through the first fuck without looking too much like a goober
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Can I post if I'm gonna be 25 in a month? What's worse is I still look like I'm 17 and get told all the time I look like Mark Anthony, which isn't a compliment.
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>25
>Graduated college at 22
>About 6 months after that I started to process with a job I though was my dream job.
>Turned out its just my dream career so I stopped processing.
>While I was looking I took a shit job washing pots and after a couple of months baking because they liked me so much.
>Still looking it same field for a job at 25
I hear they are taking a bunch more people for hiring soon so I might be in that group...wish me luck guys.
I cant help but think I fucked myself dropping from processing from that initial position. I am sorta glad though because what if they didnt pick me? I spent my time applying to countless jobs since...you know to broaden my chances..maybe it was a good omen.

any insight..i am filled with regret. I keep myself grounded by telling myself Hey I did this for a reason...to check more jobs out in the instance i am not picked for the initial one but..shit man...i worked in a fucking food vs something else...plus I cant even find anything serious in this city..job market is fucked.
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>>17760515
you really cant fuck up with a hooker. just hit it doggy
>>17760525
lift weights
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>>17760531
A pull-up bar would be better. Thinking about borrowing my friends iron gym and bulking up my arms/ shoulders again for easy punani.
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>>17760531
When I'm in the Forces I will.

I feel good about my body and I've been around girls who want it
But I'm still too socially retarded to go for it
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I'm getting tired of this cycle of hopefulness, disappointment, anger, repeat that goes with dating. Fuck this shit, why do I even bother
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>>17751920
You're a legitimate failure

I'm 23 and I make ~130k total compensation a year
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>25 Male
>Government position as a data analyst
>Hate it because my superiors are total retards
>Anytime I contribute or try to improve a particular method of organizing the data sets, I am quickly shut down and told to do it the right way
>Want to quit and go back to being an otaku who worked at a gas station
>Told to work on the weekends sometimes and I have to work on projects late into the evening
>Friends are slowly drifting apart from my life
>No girls
>Pretend to be someone else in front of family even though I am dealing with crushing loneliness
>At least I got my anime and movies
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25 years old

I am an apprentice in a skilled labor field that is honestly pretty shit (max pay $20-$23/hr) and am currently out of work because there is construction being done in our workplace. My gf only works part time and wastes her money on dumb shit that I tell her not to so we are being evicted sometime next month unless i sell the last of my possessions or find an interim job in the next week or win in court which is very unlikely. I have not had a phone for months in order to save money, i have my most prized possession in a pawn shop for the last 12 months, my driver's license is suspended and I don't have the money to reinstate it, my shitty car has no passenger door window (doesn't matter since I cannot drive it), the speakers don't work in it either, most of my friends left me because i cannot keep up with their lifestyle and i have no family. I am very tall, but very skinny as I barely have enough to eat. My upstairs neighbors make a fuckload of noise and it actually sounds like they move around furniture for fun. I have no clue what they are doing up there. I wake up between 3 and 6pm every day and find it difficult to get out of bed. I have been diagnosed with clinical depression and according to one doctor "the most severe case" of ADD she has ever seen which I was not aware of until age 22. I have pretty much given up on my dreams and waste my days away.

I want to break up with my gf because I do not trust her and I think her goals in life and values are too different from mine, but i will definitely be evicted within a month without her part time wages. Basically she has no goals and doesn't do anything that makes me think she wants to escape from poverty (wasting money on weed/booze/takeout never saving anything, borrowing from family members, no education or plans).

I just want to work again and get my prized possession back from the pawn shop and get my life back.

I hate everything right now.
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>>17759521
26 KV here and I've had a few of those recently. You feel so good that someone's interested and then so bad when you realize it's not actionable.
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>>17760789
maybe this song will make you feel better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwzNLYbkcFM
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25 yo male here.

I feel 35. Hate everyone. Great diet but still low energy. Just want more sunlight in life but work a night job. Want to die much of the time. And I'm at my 'peak.' Haven't even been laid in 9 years. College is wearing on my soul like sand paper. No time to date/mingle/fool with females due to job(s)/classes/hw. My youth was wasted and shallow like my parent. Now I'm just busy adult with few positive memories, mostly sad and lonely childhood. Seems silly to work on my outlook when its all rolling downhill from here. Depression will one day help me kick the final switch and end myself, I'm hoping. Maybe I'll find love, but I'm in too deep, I've given up too many times and have no time in order to maintain.
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Bomp.
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I'm 34 and honestly don't see the point in living anymore

I'm currently applying for temp jobs because my cv is so riddled with shit menial work, gaps and lies that I have covered saying I was "self employed" or "working for the family business". I have no prospects whatsoever beyond a dead end office or supermarket job.

I have been online dating, even though its pointless in my situation as I'm so insecure about my lack of prospects etc. I get attention from unattractive women. Whenever I message a girl I find attractive/cool, I get no response or just a polite thanks or whatever.

All of my friends are successful and married or engaged. I had more potential than all of them in terms of intelligence but I was too socially anxious, insecure and plain stupid to do anything with it and completely wasted my youth. My gf left me a couple of years ago and I never got over it. It felt like the only chance at happiness I'm ever likely to get and I blew it.

I'm trying so hard every day to stay positive. But I'm just so tired now. I'm ugly, I'm scrawny as fuck, I have no job or prospects. I just bought a shitty used car I can barely afford to run. I have no social life, I'm still posting at fucking 4chan at my age ffs.

I've tried therapy, meditation, gym, self-help. Nothing ever helps long term, nothing ever changes. I just wish I had a gun tbph
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>>17761448
>My youth was wasted and shallow like my parent

You know, the fact that most of my memories as a kid/teen, is basically tv adverts and programmes is pretty sad.
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>>17761448

>My youth is wasted

What are you talking about you're literally still in your youth, in fact it actually just began. You can be in your youth all the way till 70!
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>>17761448
>>17763906
Youth is for wasting on retarded shit. That's why we're put onto Earth as babies instead of 80yo men. Gotta learn to crawl. Gotta learn to avoid doing retarded shit. Usually the way to learn how to avoid doing retarded shit is doing retarded shit and facing the consequences for it.
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>>17748681
29 here, living with mom, jobless, scarred of talking to people, contantly hating my self for being that guy. Could never be that guy that says, "fuck it."
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>>17763937
>Youth is for wasting on retarded shit

Yeah, your prime years, at least in terms of health and socialising. You have a certain social immunity during your late teens and 20s.
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>>17763937
That's all and well but being one of those 30-somethings that slide into insanity cos that they try catchup for the last 30 years, is not really what I aspire. I mean, I know of one guy who clearly went off the rails after his 30s trying to catchup.
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>>17763949

Feel ya man
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So generally burnt out on life. Friends are always busy building new lives, and progress is pretty slow. Spending more and more time alone in my room being sour since I have nothing else to do.

How do you guys keep yourselves busy and out there? I've been trying to go out and spend some time at the library, but that only lasts so long.
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I hate these threads, but at least they're the best threads on here. Might as well rename Advice to Relationship Advice. Holy shit this board is fucking awful. I mean that in the most genuine way possible. It needs to be deleted. It's not as bad as Question & Answer though. That's just a cancer board. I used to try and help people because I've been there and I made it out quite well, but it's a waste of time.

The questions are just fucking stupid to begin with. I understand that if you're 25 and you still have these types of issues then you haven't developed properly and obviously you'll have a mental disorder or whatever you want to call it. Meaning that you won't be a mature adult, which is understandable. Realistically, someone that's 25 is already grown up and knows exactly what to do because they're an adult, but that's why you're here because otherwise you wouldn't need advice. Not this type at least.

Not to mention that helping is pointless. It's like you just want validation and excuses.

>I'm a loser because I didn't do anything that I was supposed to when I was younger.
Why don't you better yourself and go to school or progress in another way?
>See? Told you... There's no helping me. Guess I was right. Thanks /adv/ I'm going back to /r9k/ now.
Wait, what?

It's your fault. Deal with it. Through that, you're depressed. It won't just happen to you if you wait and be sad. It'll get worse, in fact. It's not easy. It will be one of the hardest things you've ever done. Especially if you fucked up this bad, but it'll be worth it. I guarantee it.

Work out, eat healthy, learn, and improve. Can't change the past. Deal with it. Write your future now. You're going to be 45 anyways. Might as well show something for it.

I remember being overweight and losing all the weight. It's like being super human. It's like night and day. That's just one aspect that you can change. Imagine if you changed all aspects of your life. Which you will because it snowballs from there.
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>>17764994
Travel, mate. That's the only way
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>>17763949
Well you have pretty much have said fuck it if you're being hopless.
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>>17765121
>It's like you just want validation

Most, if not all, people do. It's like the confirmation of your existance and that you matter. Being alone compounds almost all issues.
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I set up an OK Cupid account. I'm waiting for the inevitable disappointment I'll suffer when doing this doesn't result in me being immediately buried in pussy.
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>>17760530
Damn man almost identical
>graduate may 2014
>applied for career jobs
>in may 2015 desperate for money
>work at a new restaurant
>work 60+ hours a week
>never apply for real job
>left Oct 2015 after owner fucked me over
>unemployed one year
>mom asks banker friend to help
>apply
>just yesterday HR told me my work is too diverse and over the place
>25th birthday this week
>thanksgiving and Xmas soon
>already stressing over dinner conversations
>"hey anon hows the job"
>"uhhh I uh I'm still applying"
>"didn't you graduate in 2014"
>"yeah I'm still waiting for replys"
>"send me ur resume I will check it for u"
>"o-ok"
>"why don't u apply to ___?"
>"s-sure"

Aside from real jobs, I've applied to WalMart. Petco. Stop n shop. Rite aid. Home depot. All these places im overqualified, and rejected from entry level places. It fucking sucks. Friends stop texting. Cant hang out because no money. No girl in life. Getting fat. I need a fucking job soon. I feel like I just wasted 2.5 years.
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>>17766833
Women don't really use dating sites for much more than receiving compliments or enslaving a rich husband.

Avoid it.
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>>17766859
In real life you actually find normal women who value friendships and who don't browse through men like browsing through a catalog.

Girls who use dating sites are just jaded sluts without a shred of romance in them.

Well, not all of them.
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>>17766884
Please don't feed pegasus.
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>>17766833
OkStupid can be legit but really depends on the people who are around you. I used it in BullShitZee Idaho and it was a waste of time. Later, I used it in Seattle and got several dates, some sex, and the best girlfriend I've ever had.

Don't set high hopes or anything but online dating isn't the shit show it used to be.
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>>17765121
>blah, blah, blah, it's all your fault, blah, blah,blah, veiled condension, blah, blah, blah, self-improvement, blah,blah,blah
People like you make me sick, you've been dealt a good hand. You can't admit that though, so you have to shit on those less fortunate than you. Guess what? I went to a good uni for a good degree and graduated with good grades. I eat right and exercise constantly. I joined clubs and was social with people. That doesn't change the fact that 25 yo friendless virgin that works two part time jobs to make ends meet. Some people just get a shit hand. But go on, keep thinking that you earned what you have
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How do I stop feeling sad? Are there good feels associated with trying to get gf?
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>>17767036
>I used it in BullShitZee Idaho and it was a waste of time
Well fuck me.
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Hey so I posted in an earlier thread

I basically still see zero reason to move out of my parents' house
I don't give a shit about how they feel about it and I never dated and never will, so basically I'm out of reasons

money is not even remotely an issue
why should I go through the trouble of moving out?
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>>17767263
My parents are divorced and either of them would love it if I lived with them. It's really pretty great. No real reason for you to move out as long as your parents are cool with you sticking around. I could just work at McDonalds for my whole life and by the time my parents are dead I'd have enough to retire on. Seriously, it's pretty great if you have supportive parents. They clean the house, cook dinner, don't ask for rent. I still kick in a little here and there just because it's polite. I'm moving out for work in a few months but I'll be back desu.
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>>17759836
Same, 30 and not miserable. Worst thing is my job that I like but a boss I grew to despise. Looking for other positions and it's going well somehow. Nobody said yes yet, but I had more companies to contact me over several weeks than I had 6 months ago (5:1 ratio so far) when I landed my current job. It really increased my value.

Hell, my worst problem in my relationship is contemplating if getting blowjobs is cheating, as I'm hornier than my wife. Pretty sure I won't go through (respect, guilt and all that) but it's fun to ponder. Besides, my wife tends to follow my trend. 7 days with no sex was too long for her before, now it's 5. Soon enough, we will reach an optimal 3 days on average between each intercourse and my occasional frustration should disappear.

Yes, I'm bragging. Life is not perfect but when I remember it from 3 years ago (kv, jobless, basement dweller, no new friend, etc.), I feel like I deserve that.

There is always hope for miserable people.
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>>17760191
Salaries in the US are really something else. I'm landing $24K/year for a 9-7 job and it's pretty much average for my first world country.
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>>17748724
The reason you're not getting hard is because you're worried about getting hard. It's all mental. People don't develop ED until like Mid-Late 50's so calm down, you're still pretty young for the most part.
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>>17767816
That's quite a success story. Greentext your turn around for inspo?
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>>17767816
blowjobs count man

My coworker is breaking up with a guy over one, though she's sure they did more.
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Who here /alcoholic/?
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>>17767886
Thanks, man. Let's see...
>Middle of 2014, 27, your usual loser stuck in his room except when it comes to eating or having a small walk around the neighborhood
>Dad has enough and tell me to get my shit together. Tell me if I cannot find a job here, then I should move overseas
>Settle on South-East Asia because I don't speak Spanish, Africa is just too damn dangerous, Middle-East is full of muslims and I'm too poor for East Asia or North America.
>Try to work as an independent freelancer but get no result. 4 months in and it's not looking good at all
>Meet that girl in the lobby of the office building where I rented some space for work
>She's much friendlier than me but being a socially awkward kv, I brush her off
>Meet her again later that day, tell myself it's a good chance to not be an assclown once again and chat a bit
>She's educated, good-looking, well dressed, my age, single and her English is almost better than mine
>"Shit nigga it's your chance"
>Flirt for 3 weeks, old-school style, and invite her to come home during a Saturday afternoon
>Discussion turns to massage that turns to sex
>"I waited 28 years for this moment"
>Be in a good relationship that turns into a loving relationship after 3 months
>Chinese pregnancy pills are shit (or placebo) and she get pregnant at one point
>Decide to keep the kid as she's pro-life and I didn't want to lose her
>Best decision of my life
>"OK, I've a family to feed now"
>Try harder to become a businessman, spend more money but fail
>Decide to get a job, get it after one month
>1 year and a half later, I've a good job (pay is too little though and like I said, the boss is an asshole), a loving wife, a cute daughter and we're planning to move away from SEA in the next 3 months as I actually have enough value to get companies from Singapore or Hong Kong interested.
>Actually help my Dad who joined me because his company closed and he's now jobless as well. Role reversal, ho!
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Im almost a 26 year old man. Yet I'm still a virgin. Should I just get it over with? I feel like a fool sometimes.
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>>17768000
Can I ask what you do overseas? I'm headed over in a few months but trying not to get stuck in the TEFL hole. I was thinking real estate might be a good game to get into but that doesn't seem like something one just moves abroad and starts doing haphazardly.
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>>17768043
I'm 27 and a virgin

We can make it
As men get older, we get more valuable.
We can fake it
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>>17767923
>kv

Wait, so 3 years was enough to you to marry your first woman? boy... i think this i going to end bad(for you obviously).
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26 here.
Live with my mom, not currently enrolled in college and only 1 year of community college overall, technically employed but only 63 hours a month at minimum wage, don't have anyone I would call a friend, never even kissed a girl or anything past that(no dating either), and have no real desire to change.
I'm not happy where I am in life but I just don't have the will to get it out of it. Hate living with my mom and my brother(has down-syndrome). I'm too lazy to go job hunting because I have no skills and little experience(only around 2 years of entry level jobs), and the idea of looking for a job where I still wouldn't be able to afford to move out just seems pointless. I didn't hate college but I just don't know what to aim for, and it's always easier to just do nothing. I gave up on the prospect of dating a long time ago so I don't even worry about it anymore.
I know I have the capability to do more but there's no drive to it. I know my mom won't kick me out anytime soon so I feel no urgency in changing anything. The little job I have pays my two bills and enough to buy something I want every now and then. I'm just so lazy.
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>>17767923
Thanks for the info. I was not going to do anything but it's good to know.

>>17768101
At first, I was promoting safety services. It was felt as useless spending so I gave up.
Then, I created marts. Not bad but too little revenue and too much competition. Had to close one for this and another because of assholes. One is still hanging so it's paying the debts of the other 2, no losses but also no profit there.
Now, I'm a Writer. I create corporate content and it's the shit, like I finally found my path.

Real estate can be a great path if you indeed know what you're doing and operate in a country where you can actually buy lands under your name. My dad-in-law asked me to help him in that regard to become a real estate broker but since he's honest and told me the real margins (10% over one year on average), I bailed out. I'd rather open a bank account in a microfinance institution and put the money there.
Anyway, many people try their luck with that and the industry is hiring a lot of expatriates from what I saw.

>>17768153
Sounds like bait but I'll bite.
I would agree for 3 months but 3 years leave a lot of time to know each other. We'll actually get married for the beginning of 2017 so she can follow me wherever I'm going. She's not perfect but she's loyal, dutiful, a great lover and considering I knocked her up, I owe her that.
To be honest, I was lucky I was not dragged down by a gold-digger of whatever. It happens to many men here.
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>>17754685
Thanks a lot for the link, made me restart a dialy schedule I had designed and I will put 1 hr a day into it. Just spent an hour and 20 mins there without any effort so it seems to be a good fit for my problems.
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Anyone got an ear for someone who just turned 33? I have a pretty good life but because of a traumatic childhood I struggle to succeed or enjoy what I have.

Right now life needs me to buck up and solve some problems on my plate I've been ignoring for years now but I've been slowly repairing my confidence and competence over the years and I don't really feel ready to go 100% yet.

I keep telling myself the inbetween is to get some contract or any kind of work going from home first to build confidence and resume then get into the field but I never get started.

I kinda need an ear and maybe someone who can help me find direction or get a footing, or help me break stuff down, or even just feel a bit of fire in my belly as my grandpa used to say.
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>>17759917
I hate people and I'm basically The Cable Guy, without the childhood emotional trauma. 225lbs at 6'5" is perfectly fine, I can do many various physical exercises, 7 chin ups, etc. But, honestly, thanks for the input.
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31. dating a girl 6 years younger than me because i saw her going through my past struggles. i've lost enjoyment of the sex. she's happy where she's at. i'm aiming higher but still overcoming depression and adhd. i can't keep focused with her around but i don't want to abandon her.
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>25, male
>MSc in engineering
>studying humanities for fun
>work part-time in a job I like
>colleagues are all friendly, no assholes
>college debt is small since I live in Norway
>own apartment with two friends and roommates
>excellent health, also extending to my family
>single, but two girls are interested

>thought about killing myself yesterday
I don't get it, I really don't

And when I read this thread I can't help but think I've really got it all handed to me on a silver platter. I'm such an asshole, and I would be totally happy if I just choose to.
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>28
>Waste last 6 years in an abusive relationship with histrionic girl
>Self employed web developer still living with mommy
>Turns out i'm a homosexual
>Lost my chance to have a relationship with a qt twink and all the guys in my age range look like football players and talk like "ORIGHT M8 U WANNA BITTA DICK ENNIT?"
>Talk to my friend about it "you have to fuck a guy or you're gonna be an old man before you know it and regret it" become overwhelmed with fear and dread.
>Have to lose virginity all over again and terrified
>Talking to cute guys makes me feel like I'm a 13 year old all over again, over-thinking every word I say. I can find like minded guys into anime/vidya and they put up with me for a while but it become obvious eventually that i'm nervous and insecure.
>Stay in all the time so don't really have a social life and friends are drifting away.

The future feels bleak for me. I don't see the point in living if there's no chance of love or any fulfilling relationships, bearing kids. I'm probably so shy i'm going to end up dying a gay virgin anyway.
You can take my straight virginity lads I don't want it.
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>>17768624
Once when I was younger, I almost went gay for a dude. Not because I wanted gayness but because the guy was so genuine.

He was nice, understanding, mature, etc.

Stay your ground, develop yourself. You'll find Mr Good Enough soon and you'll learn and grow from him because that's all life is. You'll eventually leave him and you'll either find someone better or learn to seek happiness in yourself, then find someone better.

But if you keep putting your happiness vouchers in other people you won't BE happy.
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>>17768670
Funnily enough the "don't look for happiness in other people" was exactly what my best friend said.
I agree with it, but then the anxious part of me says "time is running out".

I'm probably just catastrophisiing things, but it doesn't make it feel any less real. Pray for me nigga.
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>>17751856
Ha, gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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I'm 26. Long post ahead, but I'm really struggling.

I have a Uni degree because I was originally intending to go to law school after my undergrad, but finances/LSAT scores/current job market for lawyers turned me off of it, so I did a college degree to be a legal assistant instead. All the while I worked at Costco in the tire garage while going to school.

I got an internship with a large firm in my city, and while I was there an opening to work in their Intake department opened up and I interviewed for it and got it. I quit Costco. About two or three weeks in, an opening for legal assistant came up and I applied for it. My boss flipped out on me in an email, saying it was incredulous of me to apply for another position after just accepting my current one, and then when he returned to the office we were going to have a talk. I heard buzz from other office workers that I was going to be let go, so I went back to Costco and they agreed to take me back, so I quit my office job.

This was mid-2015, and shortly after I went back to Costco my mom got sick, had a midlife crisis, quit her job, and started drinking. She put the deed to the house in mine and my sister's name and we were worried about her committing suicide, so I moved back home and my sister and I scrambled to get money together to get her treatment/help. I took a full time supervisor position in the tire garage which bumped me up to Costco's top rate, so I was making $26/hr and was able to save up money over the past year to get my mom help. About a month ago some changes to the supervisor structure came down the chute and I stepped down from being a supervisor and became just a regular full time garage employee. This past summer we got my mom treatment and now she's doing well and taking medical transcription classes so she can do that from home and make money.

>cont
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>>17768967


Everything that happened was a real blow to how I see the world. It forced me to grow up a lot but now I've fallen into a pretty deep depression and I feel trapped/bitter/broken as fuck. Working full time has made me realize how much I hate 40 hours a week. I also really hate the management at Costco, as it's all stupid decisions made by dumb people who got where they are through seniority and kissing ass. My coworkers are assholes who don't do shit if they don't feel like it and management is too incompetent/scared to write anyone up. I've used the employee sponsored help therapy but found it to be total bullshit.

The worst part is that Costco is probably the best I'm ever going to get. With guaranteed raises every 800-1000 hrs worked, eventually I'll hit top rate and make $26/hr, but I look at all the lifers there and it terrifies me to become one of them. I'm so tired of it all. I think about looking for another legal assistant job, but I'm about to be two years behind everyone I graduated with, and I'll be 27 next month with zero experience and it feels like I can't remember anything that I learned in school. Plus, it'll mean making $13/hr for a few years, hopefully if I'm good enough I can get to $15, which is still below what I make now.

Every day I wake up feeling dead inside, then I go to work where everybody complains and bitches about everything but when you talk about leaving/finding something better they look at you like you're insane to give up that much money. There are some cool people but they've just resigned to their fate there. Then I come home and I can't help feeling bitter towards my mom. My girlfriend and I are having problems: she wants to move out and get our own place, but I own this house now and I pay all the bills because my mom can't and my sister is just looking for full time jobs after graduation (she's 3 years younger than me) so if I leave, my family will struggle.

I'm so unhappy and I don't know what to do.
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>>17767263
>I never dated and never will
How can I get to your level? I'd like to accept that I'm going to be a virgin before I get my hands on a gun to off myself. How do I become at peace with my virginity? I'm so lonely and there's no way to escape it.
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>>17769179
What's so terrible about being a virgin I don't understand?

Go pay for sex then if you want it so bad and do some coke while you're at it, problem solved.
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>>17768467
Face your childhood traumas, read some psychology books and see a therapist to help you get done with it if you struggle to go through that journey alone.
Wouldn't recommend going only to therapists alone because it's a bet. I've seen 4 and none if them really helped me on their own. It was more helpful to educate myself on the subject but sometimes hard to push on your own because bad memories are painful to face.
Also, if you have several things you want to work on yourself, don't start with them all, it's overwhelming and stressful and can eventually lock you in the initial or worse spot
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>>17769286
>What's so terrible about being a virgin I don't understand?
>Why is it such a big deal that you can't achieve the social interaction your brain is hardwired to want over just about everything else?
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How did I go from laughing at sad pepe and wojak and thinking "haha, I'll never feel like that" to crippling loneliness? What a difference 6 years of nogf makes.
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>>17766844
If you're applying to crap retail/service jobs and not getting any responses, take your college education off. I guarantee they will contact you if you do. They're afraid of someone with a degree leaving the instant you find a better job.

>>17767773
>I could just work at McDonalds for my whole life and by the time my parents are dead I'd have enough to retire on.
Maybe if you don't spend a dime, it might or invest it all. Don't bet on it though.

>>17767843
>Salaries in the US are really something else. I'm landing $24K/year for a 9-7 job and it's pretty much average for my first world country.
Is that gross or net?

>>17768000
She's probably only with you cause you're white. Good for you for turning the rest of your life around though. I'm betting sheer leaves you after a few years of marriage, especially once you get still have better like HK or Singapore.
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>>17768548
>>>>>>>>fit
>can only do 7 chin ups
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>>17769329
Normal people aren't all that big on social interactions. Most of our time is taken up by work.
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>>17769480
> Maybe if you don't spend a dime, it might or invest it all. Don't bet on it though.

He would at least earn 30k if he worked there that long. £515 rent saved per month. So at least 15k savings per year even if he spends like an idiot. Add 40 years and a 3% interest (what do pension give?) and that's 1 million. Only a quarter of graduates get to over 1 mill so that seems decent enough.
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>>17768967
>>17768974
I don't really know what to say, the life you're sketching out terrifies me and I'm sorry. Your post really encapsulates the pain of lost potential.

I hope things take a turn for the better.
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>>17769500
Note, where I'm from, it is said you need to save up 3 mil to be able to retire at the same standard of living that our parents' generation has.
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>>17760844
I felt like that dude from Beautiful Girls (Timothy Hutton and Natalie Portman).

It's hard to explain without sounding like a pedo.
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>bought car, parked car on street
>didn't get plates yet because was busy
>just got plates yesterday
>had a note on my window to text me if there was a problem with it being parked there
>actually got a text from someone complaining it hadn't been moved in over a week

Are there actually people with nothing better to do than keep tabs on all the vehicles parked near them and how long they've been there?

No, really, is this a thing people notice and care about? I'm not even mad, just perplexed someone noted my normal looking vehicle out of the 50 on the street and wanted to complain. Can any anons with experience illuminate me on parking etiquette?
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>>17770590
Are you really so autistic that you don't understand that everything you do in public is being watched 110% of the time now? It's not the 80s anymore.
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Almost 28 year old here. I just broke up with my girl of 3 years and 8 months.
Essentially I used to live with my brother.(big mistake I know.) My brother would continually tell us to not be loud, even though it wasn't actually that loud. IE, playing a dice game on the table downstairs is apparently too loud for him.
One morning, once I get home from work, he accused my GF of slashing the couches up. My gf can barely handle a butter knife( she is afraid of knifes and scissors). Just to make the drama stop I pay for the couches in cash right there.

He goes running to our mom, and for whatever fuckshit reason she takes his side without a shred of proof and says something nasty on facebook, which I'm able to convince her to take down thanks to awesome dad.
This ruins my family in my GF's mind. IE she wants absolutely nothing to do with em.

Fast forward two months, I've finally convinced my mother that she was in the wrong and demanded that she grow up and make it right, which she does, she apologies to my gf, which helps. BUT not enough, gf says they are still dead to her.

Now I understand where my gf is coming from, but even if we get married my gf would not want my family at the wedding. Or allow our future children to be with my side of the family(not all of my family is fucked up).

We finally sat down (GF and I) and talked about and we finally broke up. I'm still so freaking conflicted because I love this girl. So thats how my bloody day is going.
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>>17770599

Oh. I don't know, I don't care what other people do. I figure if I don't notice other vehicles, then other people don't notice mine probably. Why are they concerned about it?
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>>17769286
I'm not looking for someone to fuck, I'd like to move on from the idea that I could be in love with a woman on a mutual level.
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>>17769286
>What's so terrible about being a virgin I don't understand?

To be a virgin in your 20s, you usually have to be socially inept to the point where making friends is a challenge. And in your 20s, you've missed the period where you can be sexually naive.

Besides what young dude doesn't want to be physically intimate with a pretty girl? (That they didn't pay for. Pains me to add this but this is 4chan)

>inb4 faggots and eunuchs
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>>17770601
Wow, unlucky. Not sure what to say.
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So I am 26 and I just got cat-fished. I wasn't really in the mood to troll around (text on the right) but I am kinda sad because there are only 2 people in the world that could do this to me and I thought they were both ok friends. (The circumstances leading up to this were all were very fishy and the person wouldn't give me any selfies even when I gave mine so I just deleted them.)

Anyways, for guys that never had any interest from women... does it get easier with time? I am literally super depressed I am going to die alone and have already lived alone for 26 years.

Compounding the problem is the fact that women aren't attracted to depression further feeding my depression. My coworkers pretty much think I am crazy. (Spent the last 2 years learning how to be more social and normal but I still get called crazy sometimes. This is also depressing me.)

I never told anyone this before but I went to a Nevada brothel to have sex with a legal hooker. Got there at 2pm and there were 10 women per man because not busy yet. Anyways, sat there 2 hours and not a single woman wanted to even talk to me. Like Jesus... I don't even exist to half the population.

I can't blame them though. Humans are attracted to what they are attracted to and repulsed by what they are repulsed by.

My point is I am bored as fuck in this world. I'm not going to do anything violent so what else can I do?
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>>17770590
There are indeed people bitchy about this…and not just in the city.

>>17770599
It has nothing to do with technology either. Some people are just very protective about space, even if it's public space they have no claim to, they want you to feel like it's theirs.

>>17770601
Your gf couldn't forgive. It's better you broke up, as you saw, if you started a family with her, she would want to estrange yours, and that would put a stress on you, your family, and your relationship.

My brother cut us off from his family. I went several years without seeing my niece. His wife is a cunt and they're separated, but I know she holds things against us because my father was a hoarder. (He's dead now.) And this is reflected in my brother's actions. I have seen the pain it has caused my mother and know the pain I have endured myself.
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>>17770924
>women aren't attracted to depression further feeding my depression. My coworkers pretty much think I am crazy. (Spent the last 2 years learning how to be more social...

You might not realise this but you probably drop large hints that you are crazy saying things that aren't quite right. I mean, it used to take people a long time to find out that I was a miserable person, now they figure it out pretty much instantly.

>Anyways, for guys that never had any interest from women... does it get easier with time?

In terms of coping? Not really, you watch your peers move forward with their love lives as yours hasn't even started. It's pretty depressing seeing cute/hot/cool chicks all around you and you can't talk to them mostly cos you have nothing to say.

(Which is why all these anons who claim that being permanently single and sexless is great puzzles me, but that's another thread for the 2 single minorities that are tolerated on 4chan for some bizarre reason.)

Come to think of it, the only reason I have any male friends is cos geek/gaming is currently in vogue, not cos we have any real common ground. If it wasn't for that I'd be just as unpopular with the dudes as I am with the ladies.
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>>17762457
Bruh just buy a gun and end it. Why live in such pain and agony?
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>>17748681
How the FUCK am I supposed to get over the fact that I ruined my younger years and can never get them back? I literally do not have a single good memory from the time I became a teenager up to now. Knowing this fucks me up so badly I get heart palpitations. Even if I fixed my life I can't change my past, but it's the past that makes me so depressed.
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>>17771891
Protip: the other two were like that too. That's just how women are. You literally described my ex too with that.
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>tfw not being such a useless night-shift stoner anymore
>losing weight and taking care of my student loan debt
>nearly ready to move out of my parents house at 29
>depressed it's taken this long
>tfw still alone
>3 years since had sex, 1st and only time too...

All I have left in my life is the deepest desire to just sit in a small apartment alone. I have fantasies of buying a cheap ass Big Lots recliner to just sit in the middle of my new apartment in complete silence with all my lights on.

>told my best friend this and he asked me if thats really what I want most in life
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all i see is a bunch of people setting their life expectations based on people around them, and then being disappointed at themselves..

get some fucking balls..stop giving a fuck about the people around you..don't fucking care if it's your parents expectations, your classmates or king donald fucking trump himself..

it's your life, live it the way YOU want, the way it makes YOU happy..

nobody gives a fuck about you, except yourself..also, life's not fair, and nobody owes you fucking shit..the sooner you get this, the better off you'll be..

start addressing issues that bother you in your life, not for others, but for yourself..get fucking fit, nobody likes a fat fuck or chick..and stop being lazy and coming up with excuses why you can't do this or can't do that..there's a way to do anything, you just have to put time into it..be it money, lose weight, whatever..

try to fuck somebody - anybody..it'll take the edge off your insecurity..if you can't fuck anybody - get fit..girls will notice you, and so will guys..it's that fucking simple..also, start expanding your mind..the more intelligent you are, you'll learn to not give a fuck about trivial shit that you care about now..also - stop stressing about the missed opportunities, set some fucking goals, and achieve them..

if you aren't 70 years old, chances are good you'll live a very long fucking life due to all the advances in technology that are coming..stop complaining about not experincing X or being single or a virgin..you'll probably live forever..you'll regenerate your skin and organs a million fucking times and live a million fucking lives..so start looking at the infinite future, instead of the 80 years that the previous generations were limited to..so get your shit together..

fit in the current society just so much so that you can get along with some people..most people are dumb as fuck, uneducated, gullible pieces of shit..you're better than that..or maybe not..it's your fucking choice

FUCK
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>>17771891
>>17772037
>>17772161
Now let's all wait for the women here to defend them.
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>>17772181
No, now we wait for the thread to derail.
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>>17772180
how old are you? and what do you say to the guy with cancer, just improve yourself?
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>>17772195
i'm just over 30..well what can anybody say to a guy with cancer? do all you can to get better.. and good luck. Being depressed about it sure won't help. Get some DMT and LSD to help you get a different view about what life is..or at least read a non-junkie perspective about it
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>>17772201
>Get some DMT and LSD to help you get a different view about what life is
Why can't they just put brain damaged retards like you in mental hospitals anymore?
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>>17771876
It is a platitude and I understand your difficulty but you have to move on. I think this is difficult because when it happened, you didn't have the coping skills you have now.

At least, I know this is how it works for me. I'm able to cope with half my family's death and not let it overwhelm me. Yet I'm still traumatized by the bullying I endured, the romantic missteps I've committed, and the rejection that followed.
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>>17769286
>I have no sex drive

Serious question, what would castrating myself besides killing my sex drive?
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>>17748681
I've recently went back to college, am single, and 25.

Do younger girls around 18 or so like older guys or is being older a turnoff?
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>>17772245
>drug users
>asylum

brain damaged retard detected. lrn2history
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>>17772658
Aside from naiveness I've never understood why some anons aim for <18 ages.
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>>17771892
>but when I think of my relationships I wonder to myself why I put up with so much abuse.
I've never even had a relationship, I didn't even have any real friends. I was bad at talking to people and I ended up developing so much anxiety that all my free time using the internet as a soporific. All those chances I had, every potential good memory I passed up on because I was to spineless to put myself out there. It's so pathetic it makes me want to cry.

>>17772627
>It is a platitude and I understand your difficulty but you have to move on.
I really want to, I know there's no solution to my problem and it would be best to move on if I could.
>you didn't have the coping skills you have now.
I still don't have any, I try to tackle my issues but whenever I hit a problem and end up spiralling back down to my old state, only now I keep getting lower and lower and I can't take it.
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>>17772883
You didn't understand what I meant. I meant those things that happened long ago, you still struggle with because you didn't have the coping skills to deal with them at the time they happened. But if something traumatic happened to you today, you would be better fit to psychologically handle the experience and its consequences, because you probably have the coping skills now to do so.

It's like an unwanted tree in the yard. When it's a sapling, it's easy to uproot or control, but if it's ignored or handled improperly, that tree becomes bigger and bigger and rooted, and before you know it, threatening the house. This makes it very difficult to remove without the help of a professional or a team of people to support you.

Do you understand now.
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I'm not 25 yet but I haven't graduated from high school and doubt I can do it before turning 25
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>>17771876
You'll feel better when you fix your life. And to be honest my teen years was pretty good but they're all blurry now. I have some good memories, but that's all.

I know it's cliche but there's nothing like the present.
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>>17772859
Tight bodies
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>>17772965
Okay, I see what you mean. I can't even imagine going to a therapist or doctor though.

>>17773136
I try to fix myself but it feels like swimming upstream. It might sound stupid but for me it's not so much about having memories like you as it is about not having them.
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>>17769286
>I have no balls

Honestly, it's been silently driving me up the wall surrounded by attractive women and I'm still trying to figure out how to make friends in my late 20s., let alone trying to hook up.
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>>17772651
Hormonal disorder. And probably an effect of your body as well.
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>>17772245
learn2research autismobro..studies show people who used these drugs had an easier time dealing with death when nothing worked for their cancer..
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I hate my job. It pays extremely well but I keep fucking up and feel like everyone hates me. Only been working for a month but I hate it and want to quit everyday.
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>>17774564
why do you care what they think? you like the money.. that's why you're there.. not to please some people who care jack shit about you
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>>17774588
They're my coworkers. If i'm fucking up it affects them and I feel bad about making their job harder.
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>>17774608
well you're there for only a month..they should take that into account when judging your mistakes
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>>17769485
>start dead hang fully extended, limp below the chest
>up
>hold
>controlled decent
>dead hang
>hold
>repeat
Jerking up and down while bringing your knees up does fucking not count as a chin up. Also I weigh 225. It's the difference of doing a bench at a gym versus a bench at a competition.
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>>17770590
>legal obligation to get plates
>complains when doesnt have plates
youre like the guy who gets mad at the cop when he was doing "only" 4 over the limit.

>pic related

also, thank trump and people like him and you. they fueled the paranoid delusion that at any point in their life theres a black guy in a car waiting to shoot them or a muslim to blow them up.
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>>17774540
>an easier time dealing with death
Yes, when you go insane you generally lose touch with the real world.
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>>17774784
Nah you are just weak. I weighed 170lbs with an additional 90lbs of weight (2 45's 260 total) and could do a solid set of 3x5.
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>>17755563
This,and same age,except I spent my 20s in post-war Balkan shithole. I had a happy childhood,lived pretty comfortable,I had lots of friends from school and neighborhood. I was 9 y old when the war started, everything went to shit,but even those war years seemed good to me,I guess everything is better when you are a child. When the war was finished, that's when really bad part of my life started. We lost everything,spent 4 years living in refugee camps,barely had anything to eat on most days,I looked like a skeleton,and to make things worse,puberty hit me hard and I had terrible acne on my face. Highschool was hell,I was constantly bullied and had no friends because I was foreigner and poor. After highschool I started working odd jobs, construction, road maintenace, that sort of thing, moved a lot around Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro. Eventually I got sick of shitty rented rooms, always being hungry and broke even though I worked my ass off, so I decided to move back with my parents and split the rent and bills with them. I also started selling acid and DMT to a few people that I knew, and one of them introduced me to a 18 y old female friend of his that liked acid. She started buying from me, we talked on facebook, started hanging out, and eventually ended up in a relationship. I had other relationships over the years, but usually they lasted a few months, longest one was 2 years, and I never felt being in love, I always felt some distance in every relationship. This time was different, this girl really loved me, and I really loved her, more than I ever loved anyone, including myself. I had the happiest 6 months of my life, and then she died 3 months ago, in her sleep. I never felt this bad, I just want to die like her, go to sleep and never wake up. I waited 30 years to meet her,only to lose her after 6 months. I endured poverty and all kinds of hardship in this hellhole of a country,but I always had some hope of life getting better...now I just want to die
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>>17755574

Yeah, pretty much; I just have one of those generic boy next door faces. People ask if they've met me before ALL the fucking time.

No, I never bring up my age.

This one time in class, my teacher was talking about Circuit City and I mentioned I had worked there, he asked how old I was and I said 31.

All the grillz in the class did a double take.
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>>17775592
This is the part where we shuffle about uncomfortably in the room, tugging at our collars.
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>>17775655
>>17755574
It's not bad, one you get to your late 20s and everyone around you starts to show signs of aging. I'm 33 and I still get asked about my age.
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>>17775655
If that's you, you look about 35.
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>>17775891
Why, because he's a retarded junkie/drug dealer? Or because his family was war criminals who weren't wanted anywhere because everyone knew what they did?
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>>17775655
Stop attention whoring on adv you are so boring
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25m always was a bit socially awkward but functional just shy. things have gotten much worse. I got chronically sick (wont mention what I have) and got slowly got addicted to the pain meds they gave me. everyone in my life is slipping away and I just feel like a burden on my family. I still have my best friends but I rarely even see them anymore. It's not because I focus on all the pain when I'm seeing them, instead I generally try to have a good time when I see them. most of my other friends I've lost touched with completely and are way ahead of me in life now.

despite having a gf, a fuck buddy, and about 3 or 4 cute girls who were interested in me I remain a virgin (all of those relationships in the past, nothing now). I've had foreplay and all that and had the option on more than one occasion but I didn't make my move. something is seriously wrong with me. I'm also extremely shy to new people and especially girls that I like.

I'm trying to get off the pain meds but the withdrawl is terrible. I want to be done with them for good because I know they are just fucking with my head worse. I've lost count how many times I went cold turkey and ended up relapsing. If it weren't for the anxiety meds I'm eating like candy now I would be back on them in a heartbeat because the withdrawls are just too rough.

I dropped out of college when I got really sick and all this started but I'm trying to continue my degree now but all this shit is getting in my way. I just feel like a burden to my family and while the thought has always been in the back of my mind of suicide I always knew sometimes daydreaming about that kind of shit just makes me feel better but more and more I fantasize about it becoming a reality. I always seem to feel like this the most during winter and as time goes on each winter I feel twice as bad as the last.

Nothing that I used to brings me joy like it used to if at all even aside from maybe family, friends, and pets.
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>>17749794
buddy I'm gonna start halfway through my degree at 25, so you're fine
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im 26, im kinda lonely but i dont want a girlfriend because i dont want to sink my time into that so im thinking about getting a rescue dog. any of you dummies have pets?
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>>17776839
Rescue dogs are high maintenance, but a dog is always a dog. Carpe diem, motherfucker.
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