Escorts

>>17712856

Did the math based on what? Broke people date all the time and some women are fine with paying their part on dates. I'd imagine a long term escort arrangements costs hell of a lot more.

>>17712856
Interesting math you got there, care to post the numbers?

>I did math based on something I don't have enough data on.

I can sit here and shit numbers onto a spreadsheet about how much it'll cost to fly a rocket to the moon vs. building a really long ladder, but it would still be retarded and incorrect.

Yes, they're basically prostitutes. Fancier prostitutes and, thankfully they tend to have all their teeth and not stink like a garbage dump. But still prostitutes. You should expect them to fuck you. You tell them how you want it and they comply, as long as it's not anything too crazy.

Also dating can be pretty much free, I don't know what kind of math you're doing there.

>>17712879
>You should expect them to fuck you. You tell them how you want it and they comply, as long as it's not anything too crazy.
I dunno, I've heard a lot of horror stories about escorts being retarded college students who didn't know that they were expected to have sex, or they'll be extra snooty about literally everything and thus you'll be charged $1,000 for 15 minutes of passionless missionary sex with no kissing and 2 condoms on.

>>17712856
>I did the math

Don't tell me you used discrete metric..

>>17712887
lol. those are scams. Make sure you know how much are paying and for what beforehand.

>>17712887
>they were expected to have sex
They aren't and it's not in their contract either. Just because YOU expect them to fuck you, doesn't mean they have to.

Most tend to work simply as a companion/eye candy for lonely rich people; if you aren't a horrible creep, they will be open to fuck obviously but it's not part of the job.

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>>17712856
Is it weird that the hottest chick in our university is an escort? she talked to me a few times every week in class and she's fucking expensive too.

>>17712899
That's bullshit, sempai. Escorts are sex workers. Having sex IS their job. Sure, there may be girls who call themselves escorts but are paid only for non-sexual services, but escorts were pretty much high-class prostitutes since the dawn of time. Or well, at least since high-class prostitutes became a thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escort_agency

>>17712899
Lolno

>>17712922
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escort_agency
>"While the escort agency is paid a fee for this booking and dispatch service, the customer must negotiate any additional fees or arrangements directly with the escort for any other services that are not provided by the agency involved, such as providing sexual services (regardless of the legality of these services)."

It's pretty much how it's not a job of a cashier to be nice to you and tell you "have a great day" while smiling. Only taking your money and selling you shit. A job of an escort is to meet you/go with you somewhere, everything else is extra and depends on you.

>>17712909
It's a great job for attractive and intelligent people, so obviously not any more weird that some loser faggot with no social skills works at a deadend job where he barely interacts with people.

>>17712931
From the same page:
>The arm's length relationship between the escort and the escort agency is designed to protect the escort agency (to some degree) from prosecution for breaking laws against prostitution. If the employee is solely responsible for arranging any illegal prostitution-oriented activities, the agency can maintain plausible deniability should an arrest be made.

>Escort services aim to provide an experience that allows the operators to claim that whatever happens between the escort and the client is consensual. Operators tend to avoid discussing specifics over the telephone or via emails to avoid complications with the law.

Anon, here's how it is. Escort agencies exist because prostitution is illegal. They can't say "You pay this much for sex.". That would be illegal. So to protect themselves they say "you pay this much to get introduced to a girl". Kind of like those dating sites that require a paid subscription. But that girl is there to have sex with you, not to have a walk in the park with you. That's only a pretense for the law for the agency to keep its ass covered. They just introduce 2 people to eachother, but then the girl will get paid to have sex. If they're caught the girl will take the fall, not the entire agency because she's the one who engaged in prostitution. But you're booking her for sex, anon, not for company. You know that, she knows that, the agency knows that, the laws knows that but it can do nothing about it. Everybody knows that.

>>17712952
How devious. I love it.

>>17712952
>Escort agencies exist because prostitution is illegal.
They also exist in countries with reasonable laws. Their main operation is in the name.

>you're booking her for sex, anon, not for company. You know that, she knows that, the agency knows that, the laws knows that but it can do nothing about it.
They all EXPECT it but again, it's same with a cashier, you expect them to be nice to you. The actual service they signed to provide and you paid for is escorting you somewhere. Everything else is up to personal arrangements.

>>17712909
why is she in university if she is an escort?

pretty much will fuck her over if she wants to get a normal job.

>>17712948
if she is intelligent then why is she in university with people openly knowing she is an escort?

>>17712979
Spoken like a sheltered homeschooled virgin. The world doesn't work that way. Quite a few uni students have done some kind of sex work.

>>17712979
>why is she in university if she is an escort?
Well, if it's in Burgerland, to deal with crazy loans obviously. If it's in any normal country, to earn a damn nice paycheck for minimal work.

>pretty much will fuck her over if she wants to get a normal job.
Like what? At least she'll know most of the bosses personally, besides due the people skills she learned on the job, getting in will be easier.

>if she is intelligent then why is she in university with people openly knowing she is an escort?
Probably a small city. Or maybe the poster is a big fan and not everybody else knows.

I agree with OP.

>>17712864
>>17712868
>>17712871
>gifts
>food
>drinks
>contraceptive
>transport (you obviously have to visit a gf much more often than a whore)
>trips, movies and other entertainment

>>17712979
>>17712989
This.

>>17712979
>stripper
>escort
>sugar baby

All quite common for college girls to try at some point. Yes, also the intelligent good students.

>>17713002
>gifts
You get gifts back, so it's even in the end.

>food
>drinks
Well, you do eat and drink them. If you pay for your gf, you're a cuck either way.

>contraceptive
Do prostitutes come with free condoms these days?

>transport (you obviously have to visit a gf much more often than a whore)
Only noticeable if you live very far away.

>trips, movies and other entertainment
Which you all get to enjoy too. Again, if you pay for her, you're cucked either way.

>>17713024
>escort
>sugar baby
These two are actually mostly the more intelligent students, since you can't just get away with good looks. You need to make sure the customer has a great time before and after the fucking, which needs social skills, understanding of different people and yidda yadda.

>>17712989
>The world doesn't work that way.

yes it does. if a company finds out that she done sex work they are unlikely to hire her.

>Quite a few uni students have done some kind of sex work.

so? that doesn't mean they where all successful with their endeavors. im in university myself. the chance of getting a job in your chosen filed is still quite low and and its going to be so much lower if someone worked as an escort. companies dont want to be known for hiring escorts because it reflects badly.

>Well, if it's in Burgerland, to deal with crazy loans obviously. If it's in any normal country, to earn a damn nice paycheck for minimal work.

you didnt understand my point. if she is in university and working as escort, it is obviously going to have a negative effect on her. its like someone being openly racist and doing a liberal arts degree.

>Like what? At least she'll know most of the bosses personally, besides due the people skills she learned on the job, getting in will be easier.

as i said to the other guy, it reflects badly on a company if they employ people that worked as an escort.

>>17713050
>if a company finds out that she done sex work they are unlikely to hire her.
Maybe it's some backwards mom and pops shop in rural Murica. Not something uni graduates tend to apply for in the first place.

>it reflects badly on a company if they employ people that worked as an escort.
How comes?

>>17713050
Do you think any girl who has done escorting as a student will put it on her resume? Hell no. A company has no legal way of finding out. And if a company will not hire a girl, or fire her because she was an escort, they will get into trouble.

You're young, one day you will learn how the world works.

>>17712963
I guess the cashier example holds to some (small) extent. As in, it's not part of the contract to smile and they're not forced to do it under the law. But if they don't do it they will most likely lose their job. That's not as true for cashiers as for escorts though. If a cashier gives you a death stare you're most likely going to shrug it off. But if an escort you paid for is going to come meet you then go "Yeah, I don't really like you, I'm going home" you may get pissed and talk to her "employer". Which will most likely end with the escort being fired. See, the main purpose of a cashier is not to satisfy the client, but to facilitate a transaction. When you go to a shop you don't go there to have a cashier smile at you. You don't give her money for her to smile at you/ The main purpose of an escort is to satisfy the client, that's what he's paying for. And in most cases the client pays for sex. If the escort doesn't give him sex she's not doing her job.

Escorts do indeed provide a larger set of services than street prostitutes. You can ask for a hot girl to pretend to be your girlfriend at a highschool reunion. You can ask for a girl to talk to. You can get a girl to play strip DnD with you or whatnot. But if you're looking for sex you can get it from them. You don't have to take the escort to a date, or something like that, you can just take her to a hotel and fuck her then send her off.

You seem to be under the impression that escorts are these girls who date men and get paid for it. Which they aren't. The client pays to own them for a short amount of time and they can do whatever they want to them short of harming them (although, depending of your definition of "harm" you may say they're supposed to put up with that too sometimes). It may sound ugly, but it's the truth. I have acquaintances who are escorts and I also paid and fucked a couple of escorts. I can tell you with certainty that they can't afford to say "no".

>>17713059
>Not something uni graduates tend to apply for in the first place

not true. its middle and high class people that typically hold discontent towards sex workers.

>How comes?

because people think it is morally wrong. sex workers have been looked down on for centuries. they are the most common target for killers because the police dont give a fuck if they are killed. historically they where seen as facilitating crime due to their workings with the under world. if i was a criminal, the first people i would rob would be escorts because they would not go the police due to the nature of their work anf if they do lol the police wont give a fuck

>>17713065
yeah but if some fella if her uni class knows it must not be that hard to find out, they can make up all sort of bull shit reasons to not hire her.

>>17713086
>some guy at her school, which is a close-quarters situation of he said/she said gossip is the same as a company on the other side of the country who doesn't know anyone from the college

Wew lad you have a lot of expanding of your world to do.

>>17713090
if she wanted to keep it a secret, no one would have any information to gossip about. there are people that date escort and they dont even know. she is obviously putting it out there.

>>17713109
So? Does that mean she has a twitter page and LinkedIn talking about it? Of course not. School gossip doesn't mean shit. Employers check for what's on the Internet.

In the event someone started a smear campaign on social media, calling her out, all she has to do is deny it at the source and threaten the person who posted it with legal action. An employer who is interested in her is going to believe her over some weirdo who devotes their life to trying to smear someone for escorting.

That scenario is entirely ridiculous and not going to happen, by the way. And if you think it would, you're woefully naive as to how much people actually give a shit about one another.

>>17713086
>people think it is morally wrong

You speak for all people now?

>>17713115
He lives in his own bubble. It's almost certain he is a virgin who has never had a gf and is waiting for his pure virgin waifu.

>>17713081
>If the escort doesn't give him sex she's not doing her job.
An escort not fucking a customer won't get fired in a normal escort company (and not the cheap ones that act like pimps under the name of escorts). Her job with customer satisfaction is officially limited to the "escorting".

Sex is an obvious option and often expected but it's not part of her job. The difference is that you can actually ask for it without coming of as a creep like you would if you tried to fuck the cleaning lady.

>I can tell you with certainty that they can't afford to say "no".
Sounds like they work for the sketchy companies then, which are more of "rent a prostitute in house" than escorts - type of business.

>>17713086
>its middle and high class people that typically hold discontent towards sex workers.
You mean the same people who can actually afford high class sex workers? Fascinating.

>because people think it is morally wrong.
In backwater shitholes, that are no interest of any university graduate. You really seem quite ignorant of the world outside of your own little bubble.

>>17713115
>So? Does that mean she has a twitter page and LinkedIn talking about it? Of course not.

escorts do have websites with all their details on it though, its how they get customers. and if people openly know in university that she is an escort, she probably has her info out there on websites. i was thinking about getting an escort a few years back and i done some research about them.

>>17713125
you do realise i personally dont care if someone is an escort or not.

>>17713166
Well sure, of course it's out there if she has a website. That goes without saying. But what's the likelihood she's using her real name? Zero. No one would ever use their real name to prostitute. And employers don't have image recognition software to comb the Internet for pictures that might be similar.

>>17713166
You seriously think that because you read about escorts on a website you know more about them than people who have actually been to escorts? Get real.

Escorts are low key. Most will not have their own website. Only some pictures on an agency site that doesn't show their face at most.

>>17713174
through reverse image search its not that hard to find peoples facebook, twitter etc. if its a really high paid job with strong work effort they could go through this much effort. the fact that people in her uni class knows suggests that she wasnt too careful so we dont know how careless this person is.

>Escorts are low key.

not this one

>>17713186

>>17713139
>Her job with customer satisfaction is officially limited to the "escorting".
Yes, officially. This doesn't mean that's what they actually do. Look, even wikipedia page calls them sex workers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_girl

Maybe I have misspoke when I said escorts can't say "no". Escorts don't refuse sex, they refuse clients. For instance, some escorts have "no black men" (yeah, I shit you not, that's actually really common in some places) or "no men over 50" or stuff like that in her "description". If there is a legitimate reason (well legitimate according to her, and the agency policy) not to serve the client she can refuse him. This means he doesn't pay and he gets no service. It's just how a consulting firm can refuse a potential client. But if she accepts the client then she does what the client asks her. In this case she can't say no to sex. Basically, as long as he pays the client is entitled to sex (with some exceptions. Some escorts are only for... well actual escorting. But when the client pays for one of those he knows exactly what he's paying for. Still, these kind of escorts are pretty rare).

Look, the point I'm trying to make is that the primary roles of escorts are sexual service and if that's what you're paying for then that's what you're getting.

>>17713199
Really? Reverse image search? You think the pictures an escort uses to promote herself are the same she uses in her Facebook profile? You are so insane.

>>17713215
lol some reverse image search websites show images that are similar, not exactly the same. i have done this tons of times to find people facebook and shit like that

>>17713042
>>gifts
>You get gifts back, so it's even in the end
I'll still be wasting more money than if I only used whores.
>>food
>>drinks
>Well, you do eat and drink them. If you pay for your gf, you're a cuck either way
As a neckbear, I don't go out to eat/drink. Eating at home is cheaper.
>>contraceptive
>Do prostitutes come with free condoms these days?
Some do.
>>trips, movies and other entertainment
>Which you all get to enjoy too. Again, if you pay for her, you're cucked either way
As a neckbear, no, I won't enjoy it.

>>17713002
you forgot about spending money on

>anniversary
>valentines day
>wedding
>child support

also paying her college dept because nowadays women have useless degrees and college dept.

>>17712931
>It's pretty much how it's not a job of a cashier to be nice to you and tell you "have a great day" while smiling
but it is

>>17712989
lel you sound like the shelter person. do you even know about that girl who worked at Nintendo and got fired for being a whore? all over the news by the way so she ruin her chance of ever getting a normal job.

>>17713318
Yeah, I was trying to remember that.
Also,
>lawyer
>another house, cars and pets after the break up (because she will take everything with her)

How is dating still an option, bros?

>>17713332
Do you know how many girls were whores/strippers/sugar babies and never got found out?

>>17713343
>Do you know how many girls were whores/strippers/sugar babies and never got found out?

that is very easy to know because women are stupid enough to brag about it on social media. all the company has to do is look in to her facebook/twitter and see her for the whore she is.

>>17713332
You mean where pretty much every other company called out Nintendo on their shit? Iit's a shitfest run by old Japanese men, who are still stuck in the 40s, no more surprising than KKK firing a nigger for being black.

How many top SV or European companies did fire anybody for past jobs?

>>17713373
the only people defending her are sjw sites. also at this point she is stuck doing her whore career and selling nude pictures online.

>>17713318
Or you play the game like a smart man and marry a woman who didn't get a useless degree, doesn't want kids, and has no debt because she went to school on a scholarship.

If you want to say that's impossible, fine. I know it's not, because I did it. My bros have similar marriages. But we're not shitters. We also came from positive educational and monetary circumstances as our wives.

So if you aren't the kind of man who can pull that kind of woman, then yeah, you probably should be wary of the marriage trap. Or maybe start working toward being that man, so you can get that kind of woman.

>>17713421
Even wired is a sjw site now?

such bs, meet a girl on tinder and after talking a few times u spend at most 0,01$ electrical bill and get a one night stand.
OP calculates based on relationship, however the amount of fuck u get out of a gf is so much higher than an escort so the fucks/$ is still higher with a gf

>>17713538
You always have to fuck the same person, though.