Do I call this a date or going out

>>17687247

Definitely mention this being a date if you want to make your intentions clear, women don't like men who can't talk properly about what they want.

anyone else?

>>17688315

>aynone else

don't be rude. you didn't even address him, thank him, or respond to him. at least say, 'thank you' and ask if anyone else has advice. but why would anyone want to give you adivce if thats how you respond?


that being said, my advice is to simply ask her
>would you like to do XX on YY

wherein XX is the date idea, and YY is the day/time. when she says yes, you say 'great, its a date' with a smile.

if she doesn't argue, congrats. if she does, well there's your sign

>>17688409
cause im trying to get like a poll of ideas

Ive learned that asking if a girl wants to do whatever is a bad idea
Its better to take charge and say "lets do X"

That way it puts off the feeling of you making the call, but it still leaves enough wiggle room for her to say "I dont have time"

Im getting to the point now where I wanna say "we're gonna do X when you get back", because its total take charge but it leaves wiggle room as to when it will actually happen

>>17688412

you're not wrong, but you're not right either. girls aren't robots all running the same scripts, and if they're dumb enough to fall for sitcom meme manipulation, then they aren't worth dating.

i ask my dates if they want to do XX on YY. they say yes or no. its usually yes, cuz they're into me.

and if they're into you, you dont have to pretend to be in control.

I need to message her already I need people ITT to help me figure out what to do