Mentally ready to get a hooker to stop being a virgin

>>17686120
People look down on it because they think you look like a loser who can't get any.

The funny thing is that women scream when guys don't want them slutting around but then bemoan men who paid for sex. It makes you think they can't stand a guy taking a shortcut to access the Temple of the Sacred Vag.

>>17686152
>It makes you think they can't stand a guy taking a shortcut to access the Temple of the Sacred Vag.
That's what I think it is

Its not a guys fault if he can't get laid, if he does all the shit, all the clothes and bathing and getting out there and "gets a life", clubs, sports, blah blah

If he goes through all the works and motions and still can't pull it off its not his fault

Wonen's standards are simply too high, we used to live in times when they were forced to play along due to societal and legal pressure, but now that they are free to do whatever they want that includes getting to be as picky as they want


I mean I've been to parties, made out with girls, hell I got a girls number the other day and went on a date with her and it seemed like it went good and it looks like we are gonna go on more, even this horror movie she wants to see which sets things up for the whole classic "omg im scared hold me" cliche


But really I just feel ready to give up and let go and get a hooker
I just plain old want my dick sucked and I wanna fuck a girl

If I get to the end of the year and it hasn't happened I'm just gonna go "fuck it" and pay 100 bucks for some escort

I only made the thread because I was wondering why people get so triggered by the idea

>>17686171
Why would you when you're so close? Getting laid isn't about jumping a set number of hoops.
Obviously you have improved yourself already to the point where you can do it without paying.
Why not persevere across the last remaining steps instead of taking the easy way when you're almost there?
If it's not this chick you're going out with , it's going to be another one.

>>17686552
Because sometimes I feel like it just wont happen, I wont hit the finish line I wont make
I can think of so many ways it could go wrong, people have come so close to winning before and still lost

I don't wanna sound like an autist but a really good analogy is Germany in WWII coming so close to taking Moscow that their tanks were literally like looking at the Kremlin through their binoculars and the war ended with the Soviet flag flying over Berlin

Its not over until its over and sometimes I feel like I'm doomed from the start

>inb4 ops pic is ww2
sue me I like history

File: 6529443.jpg (399KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

399KB, 1920x1080px

>>17686120
It's going to get more acceptable as time goes on for exactly the reasons stated. But really everyone has been getting pickier about who the will have a relationship with. It's just the women have a deeper impact. It's turns into 15% of the men fucking 80% of the women. Not to mention the decent pool of women getting smaller and smaller with all the "your fine as you are, fat is healthy" attitude.
Now men have an option of dealing with the current dating situation or just getting an escort and getting immediate satisfaction for what they truly want, sex. The money isn't even really a issue because, unless your getting laid everytime you go out with a girl, your probably spending that much anyway for a maybe.

>>17686552
Why keep putting all this effort in when he can fuck a hooker for $100? If he wants his dick sucked then that's a better option than having to entertain some party slut only to end up blueballed.

>>17686120
Sex is shit without emotion involved.

Honestly it doesnt seem worth the cost

Sex isnt this be all end all awesome thing you need to get as a man, its more of a fun activity you share with someone

Paying someone to do it with you seems to me like paying someone to be your friend for a temporary time. Tad sad and really not worth the cost

Unless its like a novelty thing like girls in the red light district in amsterdam when you're on holiday

ITT: moralfagging virgins

OP, nothing wrong with having sex with a hooker. Lots of men do it. Burgerland media tries to tell you that only losers do it, when in fact the opposite is true. Clients of hookers are usually the successful types who can get it just fine without paying.

>>17686819
>I wont hit the finish line I wont make
you got it all backwards, though.
no wonder you "fail", as you turned it into some sort of twisted unlockable achievement.

so yes, if your "goal" is a cheap lay, get a hooker or a sl00t.

>>17686819
> And still lost
And how exactly do you lose? Do you think that if you're still a virgin by year's end , you'll instantyl lose any chance to ever get laid?
It's not like war, not even a fight. In fact it's the only game you can never lose as long as you keep playing and roll your dice.The true struggle is improving mind, body and Life - and you've already done that, and will doubtlessly keep doing it.

dude no one gives a fuck what you do, why do you give a fuck what others think of you. If you are that desperate go for it, but I personally think it's a waste of money cause of reasons already stated by >>17687660

>>17686552
you sound like goebbels in '45

Youre a virgin because of your crippingly low self esteem, for Christ's sake you're dating girls but still are convinced you'll never have sex

If you go to a hooker to lose your virginity you'll regret it. Sex is really pointless without an emotional connection, especially with some tired 45 year old who you know cares about you less than even a hookup

>>17686819
Also, what finish line?
Do you think, after you finally fucked you can kick back and life will run by itself with all your problems disappearing and you living in paradise happily after forever?
Nah man.
I'm pretty much in your exact position right now. And let me tell you this - I don't give a fuck. I will keep building, growing and changing until I keel over dead, no matter what happens.
Be happy with yourself, and girls will come.
They already came to me plenty, but I just never had the balls to take them when they were offering themselves - just another thing I need to change, another step on my Journey, but far from the End.

>>17687660
emotions are a luxury you fucker

>>17686171
OP screenshot this post and look at it 12 months.
your optimism and feeling of duty will be gone.

I can't really get my head around it, but women that wouldn't even talk to me at a party, let me fuck them for 40€, just because they are in a different setting or whatever.

I have totally given up on women alltogher by now. I still hit the gym, but only for me. I work like an animal now, but only for me.
Giving women the right to vote was the cardinal mistake of the 20th century.

>>17688157
>OP has a girl lined up but has crippling self esteem problems
>hurr durr stop being optimistic
>hurr durr let me project my issues onto you

This has nothing to do with you. OP has women who want to fuck him, he just has issues. Unlike you who are bitter women will only fuck you for money.

>>17688136
Uuuuuhhh....

>If it's no this War you win , it'll be another one???

That aside, thanks for the compliment - he clearly was a great motivational speaker.

>>17686120
Because sluts carry various viruses and bacteria in their vagina including countless semen corpses. That's why it is disturbing to think you would stick your own dick into this filth ridden semen graveyard.

>women will only fuck you for money
implying

let me quote him >>17686171

> he does all the shit, all the clothes and bathing and getting out there and "gets a life", clubs, sports, blah blah
>he goes through all the works and motions and still can't pull

Either you do that, because you inherently like it or you burn out.
Stop doing stuff because you think girls will like you for that. You'll end up bitter and exhausted. You'll regret wasting so much time and in the end you don't even know what you really like anymore. You gave up your personality for a meme.

>Wonen's standards are simply too high
yes and that's just ok or else we would be living in caves.
>Women's standards are too high too to fullfill.
That's the point. You have to learn to stop listening to their shit. It's really only shit 100% of the time anyway. Stop listening to them, they are just testing you. Give them directions, controll them, use them. Make them feel useful. YOU tell them what to do to feel useful.

Women are poor decision makers. Ever seen a dog in a leading position?
>Giving women the right to vote was the cardinal mistake of the 20th century.

>>17688166
>>17688220

>>17686120

I did it, and did shit for me. I'm the same guy, I still hace as much (or as little) chance to get with girls as I did as s "virgin".

So, don't expect a change in your life.

>>17688220
he already has girls lined up without all the effort you're describing, you autist.

>women being submissive in relationships means they can't lead elsewhere

does this mean men who like to get pegged shouldnt vote? or that flighty men who can't decide how to act around women shouldn't vote?

the shit pouring out of your mouth is literally all projection. sorry you're a huge loser

File: shutterstock_127990031.jpg (700KB, 1000x664px) Image search: [Google]

700KB, 1000x664px

>>17688220
>Ever seen a dog in a leading position?
Actually yes. Guiding dogs. Those are dogs that lead blind people and help them in daily life. I've seen them with my own eyes.

>>17686120

i did it and at the very least it changed my perspective on women.

back story: i was 24 at the time, didn't get out much and had a really distorted picture about sex and women in general. i idealised sex and put every woman around me on a pedestal... so much that i drove all of them away eventually.

having sex with a prostitute changed things A LOT. i realised that getting your dick sucked isn't black magic and sex in general is really just a human thing.

i've been in some relationships since then and i can guarantee 100% that i'd still be in the same shitty spot now if i hadn't seen the prostitute back then.

so my advice is: if you're a virgin at 22+ or scared of sex or really just insecure, do it, but do some research before-hand.

you need to have some human basics down. prostitutes will turn you down if you look like a weirdo have terrible b.o. etc. also, make sure she actually knows you're a virgin and is fine with that.

good luck mon, don't overthink it. better now then never.

>literally on a line
>in a leading position
pick one you idiot


>does this mean men who like to get pegged shouldnt vote? or that flighty men who can't decide how to act around women shouldn't vote?
yes, these people should be gassed

>oh noo muh emotion.
how stupid are you? have you ever paid a single cent in taxes? your own rent? your car?

>>17688247
>>17688237

>>17688267

>>17688220
Decent advice:
>Give them Direction(s)
>Make them feel useful
>Stop Listening to their shit
It's true, women don't know what they want when you ask them about it. But they know very well when they see it.
Utter Horsehit:
>Control them
>Use them
You cannot control others, only yourself; If you try to use others, you'll inevitably get used yourself. The only exception to that is if you're willing to be a manipulative sociopath and prey on the weak. - however that is satisfying, as any stronger, actually worthy person will look right through your game and know nothing but disdain for you.
Girls aren't some kind of Chimera - they exist to improve your life, and if a particular one doesn't, why bother?
Also, your natural role as a man is to take them - if they like you, they'll simply let you , or even offer themselves. But don't make the mistake of thinking this means you use or control them in any way.

using a hooker to lose you virginity is like using a cheat code in a game

let that sink in

>>17687660
For a woman sure

>>17688140
>youll regret it
Topkek. Yea I remember the time I regretted having no strings attached sex with a 9/10 that let me do whatever I wanted. Man what a terrible time in my life. So much worse than the 4/10's I usually fuck that I spend twice as much on.

>>17688214
>only sluts have semen corpses.
Nice try. Unless your fucking only virgins all women do. And condoms are a thing for a reason. You use them no matter what type of girl your with.

>>17688237
Women can't lead because they don't have the mindset to be leaders. They do not think like leaders. Men have a natural tendency to help out the people under him.
Women view a lesser man as useless and someone to use. They view a greater man as a tool to get ahead. They view an equal woman as competition and a lesser woman doesn't even get a second glance. Talk to anyone with a female boss and you'll hear the same thing 9/10 times. Women do not have a mindset for leadership.

>>17688258
Stories like these is why I recommend escorts. They can entirely change your outlook for the better. If there's even a chance I say it's worth it. I've heard a story like this about 5 times now. All I will say is don't get addicted if your wallet can't handle it.

>>17688274
>Girls aren't some kind of Chimera - they exist to improve your life, and if a particular one doesn't, why bother?

truth right there.

>Also, your natural role as a man is to take them - if they like you, they'll simply let you, or even offer themselves.

yeah, I pretty much agree, but since you have the active role as a man, you are allowed to help them a bit with the 'if they like you'- part.
Leading and manipulating are pretty much the same thing.

>Control them
>Use them
yeah right. I think some like that, but yeah. also my english isn't very good.

>If you try to use others, you'll inevitably get used yourself
what are employees then?

>>>17688279
using a hooker to lose you virginity is like using a cheat code in a game

I just wanted to get out of this awful level.

File: 1418281585984.jpg (104KB, 640x486px) Image search: [Google]

104KB, 640x486px

>>17686120
>Be 17
>Lose virginity to step sister
>Convince myself that I should avoid sex until marriage/long term relationship
>Go on a few dates that turn to nothing
>22 and havnt had sex since then
>Everyone asks me why I dont have a gf

At this point I just want to get have a long term relationship and children. It feels like I'm out of the loop though because I havnt had a relationship/sex in such a long time. I feel like a virgin again or something.

>>17688279
No it's not, it's just fucking sex, not some kind of accomplishment you have to get it right.

>>17686120

the issue most people have is that its like fucking a fleshlight.

losing your virginity has philisophical and social meaning attached to it. its a coming of age thing. its about proving that you CAN get a woman. its why simply having an orgasm doesn't mean anything.

i mean fucking a woman isnt THAT different than beating your meat. but the idea that you got a woman attracted to you, even if a dirty slut, that means something.

its why mail order brides and arranged marriages are looked down on in todays society. you're still getting married... but having a willing wife proves that you are worthy of it.

and thats why people dont like hookers for taking virginity. if you go into it thinking 'i just wanna have sex' thats fine but id still think you a virgin./

>>17686171

god forbid women have a choice.

>>17688374
>it's a coming of age thing.
yeah ok, but what If I say that
fucking a hooker is about finally making your own rules and trusting your own decisions.

I had sex for the first time with a hooker a few weeks ago and it didn't help me in the least. It wasn't even very enjoyable desu, i don't regret doing it but if you think that is gonna somehow fix your issues towards girls you're wrong.

>>17688378
Women don't want a choice. They think they do but most are happy having the decisions made for them.

>>17688378
most are brainwashed

>>17688382

id still say you're still a virgin and trying too hard to compensate.

you want to make your own rules? dont go fuck a hooker just so you can say you had sex. cuz you know you're not going to keep calling yourself a virgin, and you know you're not going to tell people it was with a hooker.

its just a cheap cover to make yourself feel better about it.

honestly, its better to get laid by an ugly chick who wants you then by a hooker.

but if you want to just have sex and get off with a hot body to play with, go for it. im not anti hooker by any means. i just dont think its a smart idea to force one to take your 'virginity'.

if its something so meaningless that you can pay to lose it, why bother losing it at all?

>>17688384

this is why i need feminism

>>17688397
you're evil

File: 1443551060549.jpg (100KB, 654x950px) Image search: [Google]

100KB, 654x950px

>>17688399

i want to argue... but dubs don't lie.

I just love how a thread about a guy deciding consensual sex is too hard to get turns into insulting all women in general and feminism.

Pretty telling on why some people can't get those they hate to share a fun activity with them.

Because getting laid the first time is a social thing more so than it is a sex thing. People find it pathetic for some odd reason.

22, literal autistic virgin, but not a bitter ass. I just have never attracted women and they've all rejected my advances. Hope it gets better

File: Full Moon Feel.jpg (67KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

67KB, 500x500px

>>17687660
I don't believe it
>>17687775
I'll get a hooker if I get to the point that I feel its impossible to get it any other way
Right now i still have stuff I can try

>>17688123
Yeah, I feel like this year will decide if I can get it or not within any reasonable amount of time
There are guys that are drowning in it within their first semester of their first year of college, and this is my 1st semester of my 2nd year of college

I feel like its either now or never, there's only so much I can do

>>17688140
I don't even know if we are technically dating or not, and if you really wanna help see here
>>17687247

dont believe the emotion part

>>17688145
>Do you think, after you finally fucked you can kick back and life will run by itself with all your problems disappearing and you living in paradise happily after forever?
Basically

I feel like its just so over riding that everything will be ok

>>17688166
Saying I have girls who want to have sex with me is kind of blowing sunshine up my ass

>>17688220
>Either you do that, because you inherently like it or you burn out
I definitely feel like I'm burning out and fast


>>17688279
Well the game is rigged by shitty developers and a lot of parts of it need nerfing

>>17688374
are you trying to equate real condomless pussy with fleshlights

>>17688378
>god forbid women have a choice.
A lot of men get left out when they do when in past times they wouldn't have

>>17688394
>why bother at all
Because pussy makes even the best fleshlight feel like fapping with sand paper

>>17688413
I just got back faggot

Because you don't have to suck up to women and put their collective pussy on a pedestal

>>17688468

>a lot of men get left out when they do when in the past times they wouldn't have

so? are you saying its womans responsibility to not let men be 'left out' ?

its essentially rape man. come on, i hate all that hokie feminist bull shit, but its a pretty shitty argument to make that an entire gender should serve men so that they arent 'left out'.

>>17688397
You just haven't found a man to lead you yet. It's alright I don't blame you.

>>17688480

I am a man.

I suppose id be desperate to enslave an entire gender too if i couldn't get laid.

>>17688397

We are better off in a liberated society, however it's fact that there are hundreds of millions of women out there who would be better off without any sexual freedom. Can you really say it's that much more shitty than dealing with the choice of your males?

>>17688478
It really just comes down to a "what we want" vs "what they want" thing

In past times the deal was basically "mean are in charge, make the rules, get all the sex they want and women act submissive around them, and in exchange women are protected, provided for, and get to lounge around and not have to do anything besides clean cook and if there are kids watch over them"

In modern times everything is a giant free for all when it comes to literally everything, gender roles have broken down to basically being non existent, and its hard for a guy to get laid when in the past all he had to do was fulfill his end of the bargain which was really clean cut and easy to do

>>17688478
No one is saying women should serve men. It's just that men can make better decisions for a community as a whole than a woman can. Woman only care about themselves. At least men try to get it right even if they fail sometimes.

>>17688486
>implying I can't get laid
>implying my relationship isn't almost 11 years long.
I know how women act. Ive experienced it myself and shared stories with my friends. I have talked to women and had them admit as much to me. Some things they are good at, and some things they just aren't meant for. I know you want to believe that everyone is good at everything and deserves a gold star but that's not how life works.

>>17688478
>an entire gender should serve men so that they arent 'left out'.
no, not serve.

men extract ressources from nature
women extract ressources from men.
children extract ressources from women.

that's how it goes. men care about culture to accumulate ressources better. they don't care about themselves, they are too busy for that. women do that for them, so they can keep working.

we've already figured this out here:
>>17688274
>Girls aren't some kind of Chimera - they exist to improve your life, and if a particular one doesn't, why bother?

>>17688493

Wow, being a woman was kick ass!

I mean, being not-a-person in the eye of people and the law meant... well, that was a shitty part.

>>17688516

Slaves extracted resources from nature. Men sat down and managed the masses of "animals", that included actual animals, slaves and women.

Or maybe you are thinking of something closer to modern times, with sexual abuse and domestic violence because those uppity broads can't get it right!


You are an ass.

>>17688516
>>17688510
>>17688496
>>17688493
>>17688492

are you guys seriously that triggered? i hate the feminist nonsense but do you guys even read what you post?

>>17688492

yes. women should be able to choose 'no male' over forcibly given to a shitty male. it is a better choice. thats why its a CHOICE, not force.d

>>17688493

and thats great, now you have to find a partner who actually likes you for you, or likes you for your resources mentioned. women still have the choice to use you, or to love you. but now its a choice.

if you arent worth loving, then refelct on that. if they arent worth loving, then reflect on that.

>>17688496

>men can make better decisions for a community as a whole than a woman can
>because i say so
>thats why i think women shouldnt have a choice

the irony of your post is astounding.

>>17688510

>a woman told me she likes dom guys
>SO ALL WOMEN DONT WANT CHOICE

top kek.

>>17688516

>this is the hierarchy, cuz i say so

lol
im sorry but i just can't with this thread. lets pretend you all won and ill just let you get the last words in and not respond. congrats.

>>17688516
>this is the hierarchy, cuz i say so
we would be the first species without a hierachy.
do you really believe in that?

this hierarchy is real and we have adapted to it. this hierachy exists since the crustacae evolved and these are older than trees. are trees real to you?

pls don't fall for the feminism meme. it's a lie and it's dangerous.

>>17688565

We can evolve into other kinds of hierarchy, though.

We used to have slaves and now we don't. Is that anti-natural? Or just social change?

If a woman wants to sell her sex to me and I take her up on her offer what is wrong with that? I want sex and she's selling it. Some women want to sell it and others don't. That is freedom and has nothing to do with either gender being better or worse. These gender wars are so fucking tiring. How do you guys keep having this battle day in and day out?

>>17688575

The problem here is not wheter or not it's fine to pay for sex. Some assholes are mad because women can choose not to fuck with them.

Sex doesn't solve anything op. Don't do it.

>>17688533
You aren't even posting any kind of rebuttal. Your post reads: "quote" haha wrong.
Do you have any kind counter information on the fact that women do not naturally have the mind set to lead a community. Their mindset is actually counter productive because they way they naturally view competition.
"a woman told me she likes Dom guys"
This isn't even in my post. Reading comprehension is key.

>>17688583
>Some assholes are mad because women can choose not to fuck with them.

It would be more bearable if some of them had the mercy to bow down and give a hint once in a while.
And then there's no middle ground in dating. It's always more like come closer so I can fuck you over better.

After all I pay all these taxes for the single moms and fucking expensive health insurance the profit from immensely and I never even heard a thank you. You might even think that's laughable you spoiled brat.

It's not even about fucking, it's about general shit behaviour.

>>17688573
It's natural to make money and the people at the top found another way to do it. Don't get fooled, no one has really changed. If 4chan is anything, it's a window to the true nature of people. You can read on these boards everyday how certain races are shit and should be treated as such. I like Trump but it's not hard to see he's somewhat racist.

>>17688630
In other words you are an entitled asshole who is angry that he doesn't get free sex from girls just because he has a job and pays taxes.

>>17688583
That's a bad thing? I don't want to fuck plenty of women so why shouldn't they get that same option?

>>17688630

And how would they thank you? Randomly walking up to you?

File: 1454773392630.gif (456KB, 480x361px) Image search: [Google]

456KB, 480x361px

>>17688468
>>17688468
>>17688468
Are any of you going to respond to this or not

>>17688656

Ask them. I'm calling them assholes, I don't agree with them.

>>17688657
less general shit behaviour for example

>>17688652
We should be able to cut women off of everything if they wont put out as as whole
I don't wanna pay for girls' birth control when its not even being put towards me

>The world doesn't work in a way that makes me feel good.
The thread.

>>17688652
your reading comprehension is abysmal

File: 1467011812464.jpg (186KB, 534x1236px) Image search: [Google]

186KB, 534x1236px

>>17688669
>>17688668
>>17688666
>>17688662
>>17688661
>>17688657
>>17688656
>>17688652
>>17688635
>>17688630
>>17688597
SHUT THE FUCK UP
STOP DERAILING

>>17688662

So they have to change their behaviour for you. But when women want something it's just "high standards".

That's a textbook example of entitlement.

>>17688468
>>17688468
>>17688468
>>17688468

>>17688468

>>17688468

>>17688674

What more do you want? You've been told to do it and why; and not to do it and why.

Make a choice

>>17688573
we also did not have slaves before we had slaves, you know.

also how many people really had slaves?
most slaves were in a position like an au-pair or cleaning lady today. some were teachers.
I don't think the end of slavery wasn't a very drastic change.

>>17688691
>>17688678
FUCK OFF

File: 17206190.jpg (133KB, 640x765px) Image search: [Google]

133KB, 640x765px

>>17688674
>he mad

>>17688635

Yet the world is not the same it was 1000 years ago. That's change.

>>17688686
exactly make a choice or ain't having any. you baby.

>>17688695
lol that pic. poor little guy

>>17688678
I'd say consuming all my taxmoney and not thinking fuck all about it where it comes from is asking for dark alley rape.

>>17688691

Hope you don't have a cleaning lady. You know you can't force her to have sex, right?

Also, my point is things change. There's no natural order between humans. We made that up.

>>17688699
This is a totally off topic post now but think of it this way. Women will get fucked and have babies regardless of how they act so there is never any evolutionary pressure for them to change. Men aren't gaurenteed that luxury so only the "successful" ones get to procreate (whatever that means at the time). Leading to a change in men.

>>17688711
>There's no natural order between humans. We made that up.
What is more natural then the choice of mating?

>>17688710

And being a real man instead of a creep would get you women, but you are not eilling to change either.

>>17688713

So having to carry a baby for nine months is a privilege and not a responsibility?

I get why you are so jelaous of women now.

>>17688725
can you be a bit more specific

>>17688718

Afraid survival of the fittest will leave you behind? Learn how to get some tail and stop bitching.

>>17688732

Meet their standards, some men do. And don't whine about being tall and shit. Ugly fatties get girls too.

>>17688737
>>17688733
I'm out, gn8.

>>17688751

Out of the gene pool.

>>17688730
What does carrying a baby have to do with anything. I'm talking about passing on genes. The male could carry the baby it wouldn't matter if the gender dynamics are the same as they are now.
I'm going to ask a series of questions to which there is only one rational conclusion.
1. Is there any woman that can't get sex?
2. Is there any males that can't get sex?
3. Now with those 2 answers in mind who has a greater chance of keeping their genes in the gene pool?

Women are not under as much pressure to evolve as men are. Period. I would love to have a decent arguement about this but the other side always just throws around buzzwords like privilege. I don't any of these modern feminists have sat down and had a real talk about the issues and human nature. You all just say stuff that feels good. But that's not how the world works. You all shame the OG feminists.

>>17688758
>You all just say stuff that feels good.

That's why you talk about sex and not about pregnancy. That part is not fun, yet they are related and needed.

Also, you mentioned pregnancy here
>Women will get fucked and have babies regardless of how they act

>>17688762
wow girl, you think having a wife is fun?

>>17688769

You think having a husband that comes home and expects sex is fun?

>>17688762
I like how you keep skirting around the issue without answering. The topic is, are women pressured the same as men to change on an evolutionary level.

I will repeat myself women have no issue having sex. No effort is needed if they want sex.

>>17688772
Not him but I don't expect my wife to give me sex and no man should. She either wants it or not, it shouldn't be forced. My wife is more sexually inclined than me so by time I want it, she's been ready.

>>17688786
>I will repeat myself women have no issue having sex. No effort is needed if they want sex.

So sex is the only motivator in your life? The only motor for change?

Here's is your answer: We are motivated to change from a whole lot of vantage points. Some people don't make sex the only important thing in their lives.

And the wife thing: Read what the Anons wrote. They expect sex for food. That's gender relations to them.

i dont even need to read this thread to know it is full of people complaining about women because they cant get sex. guess ill join in

yeah, i hate that women can just stand at a bar and get sex so easily but i have to go through so many hardships for it. we should take their rights from them so we can use them as sex toys with out consent.

>>17688772
> They expect sex for food.
Oh you want some status fights on top of that?
Fine, welcome to the stone age.

>>17688810

What does that mean?

You are using quotes form different things and I don't get your point.

>>17688817
what's you problem with sex-for-food?

>>17688798
I don't know where you pull half this shut from. You have the worst reading comprehension ever.
>sex is the only motivator in your life
No I didn't say that. Sex is the way we pass down our genes and our access to it directly effects our evolutionary pressure to evolve.
>motivated to change from a whole lot of vantage points.
What are those vantage points. Help me understand.

>>17688801
Dude shut up.

>>17688826

Survival, getting food and shelter. Those are pretty important if you want to get to actually reproduce.

Making your offspring survive. That's also important for your genes to propagate.

And we human are constantly "sublimating" our natural desires into other stuff (you can read Freud for the real deal, but I can offer a basic, unprofessional take: that's how we make art and enjoy TV. We sublimate the Eros into stuff beyond just animalistic instincts.)

>>17686120
Step ONE
Find hooker services
Step 2ooooo
Pay for and fuck selected hooker
Step Tres
Murder said hooker
...............
ZTEP FIVE
repeat step four
STEP 666
Never talk about step four.....

>>17688826
>Dude shut up.

you know its true. the only reason everyone complains is because someone else is fucking girls while they are masturbating to porn. most guys would only pick the best women if we got approached all the time, it would be retarded no to. and to other complains like women being children, men are just as bad. for every shitty women, there is a shitty guy.

>>17688835
Hahaha look at master troll. Go fuck yourself you brain damaged bean

>>17688842

Masterful rebuttal. Remember when Anon said:

>I like how you keep skirting around the issue without answering.

I like how he does it too.

>>17688835
>survival food and shelter.
Men did that for you back in the Olde days and government does it for you now. Women weren't ever really required to survive on their own.

>>17688845
He just needs direction. Probably not mentally mature yet.

>>17688852

And you skip the part about taking care of children.

Is living in denial hard?

>>17688861
I didn't skip it. I just said men/government. Holy crap what's wrong with you.
>denial
Projecting much?

>>17688869

So there are government sponsored nannies now?

Tell me where that is please!

>>17688871
You don't need a nanny if you sit at home and collect a check from the dad and welfare.

>>17688880

So she still has a job, though. A "natural" job like taking care of the offspring. Where's her "thank you" note?

>>17688887
So you want a thank you note next? Gee thanks, from random Internet man.

I would like to know your story and why your so venomous against men. Just accept your role as passive participant and be happy. It's the natural way. Other women have and they are happy. You want to be happy right?

>>17688899
>So you want a thank you note next? Gee thanks, from random Internet man.

Remember when Anon said:

>After all I pay all these taxes for the single moms and fucking expensive health insurance the profit from immensely and I never even heard a thank you.

And I told him:

>And how would they thank you? Randomly walking up to you?

You remember that? Thanks for repeating the same thing I've been saying.

>>17688912
So quote him then. Don't quote me if your talking to him.

>>17688915

Hard to tell which bigot is which in an anonymous forum.

The point is that the "thank you" note is an exaggeration. The point is to show that we all do work for society.

You feel yours is special and bitch. Join the fucking club. Working is not fun. And fucking an asshole because your job is "wife" will not last much longer, at least in the most advanced countries.

Enjoy paying for sex. That's the only way you can get it. Either paying it with food or money. But no one will love you. You can't excite a woman. You are too bitter and hateful for that.

Good bye.

>>17686120
I wouldn't say "problem" but it's just kinda pathetic if someone can't even manage to fuck somebody else for free. There are tons of people of the other sex who want to fuck at the very same moment as you do, as long you're not cancer in human form or extremely unlucky to live in some small village, there is just no fucking reason to waste money. Oh and other than that, sex with hookers is barely better than jerking off, so it's extra silly.

That said it's not wrong. Nobody gets hurt, so who cares.

>>17688926
Girl, first you claim
>we all do work for society.

and then you don't
>You can't excite a woman. You are too bitter and hateful for that.
That's not working, that's just insulting.

and ungrateful considering all the taxes and health care you consumed this week.

>>17688926
>you think yours is special and bitch
I'm not who you think I am. I never said what I provide to society is greater than a woman. It's true that they are not worth the same but both roles are important. The controversial but true statement I made was, men are better leaders, women like to be led even if they don't realize it yet, and women have no incentive to change their basic behaviors on a evolutionary level.

You can throw names all you want. That's the behavior of someone losing their arguement.

>Enjoy paying for sex
I don't pay for sex anymore but what women to fail to realize is that we are paying for it no matter how we get it. It's not a being bitter thing. Your the bitter one here. Guys have a natural need for sex. If he isn't ready for a relationship then he's paying for it. Even if he is in a relationship he's paying for it. That's how the world works. Especially in burgerland.

>No one will ever love you.
Ive been loved for 11 years, try again. I excite my women just by coming home.

The sad thing im not even mad at you or blame you for thinking how you do. Your just a lost puppy that hasn't had the right nourishment. Haven't had access to a real man that takes care of you and treats you how you really want to be treated. Until you get that you're going to be this bitter unhappy bitch making arguments with no real theory behind her statements. It's sad really.

>>17688998
> true statement
Then you can back it up, right? Hopefully not by simply listing examples, given that being a female leader in a patriarchal society is crazy hard.

>Guys have a natural need for sex.
Pretty much all humans do; bitches have the same sex drive.

>Even if he is in a relationship he's paying for it.
If he is in a relationship where only he contributes, he's making the choice to be a living purse.

>>17688998
>Ive been loved for 11 years, try again. I excite my women just by coming home.

I bet. She is exited to see you money, isn't she? Any asshole can flash money in her face. Or now there are some things besides animalistic survival at play?

>>17688943
>That's not working, that's just insulting.

Say the guy in the computer. Self reflection? What's that?

I'm as much of a leech as you for posting online, dumbass. Either we both are, or none is.