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>need 3.0 GPA to get in to grad school
>half way through undergrad
>have 2.65
>too stressed to do the work necessary for a 3.3 average for the rest of undergrad
>need girlfriend to get straight As
>asked out and got rejected by almost 30 girls just this semester

How did you guys survive college? This seem impossible at this point.
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Come on man, you don't need a girl in your life to get good grades. If you're trying to depend on another person to provide your emotional well-being then you really shouldn't be in a relationship.

Focus on your schoolwork and get it together. Stop asking out a fuckton of girls and try to find one that you actually connect with. Being sexual is fun, but it's not a necessary part of succeeding in your life goals like getting good marks in college is.
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>How did you guys survive college?
Take it like its a job, spread out your work evenly.

Also what is stressing you out so much that you can't raise your gpa?
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>>17678703
>try to find one that you actually connect with
This sounds nice. How do I go about doing this in a timely manner?

Being in a romantic and sexual relationship is necessary though. I was a C student in high school, and then I dated someone for a year, and ended up getting straight As for the entire year, boosting my GPA enough to get into college, and then when she left me to fuck kikes, I become a C student again. A few of my professors have said that their kids have gone through the same thing in high school and college where when they're dating their grades skyrocket. I feel like a lot of people who've been through long periods of time woth and without a girlfriend could understand that.
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>>17678693
I've got words of encouragement and discouragement.

Good news first. Chances are your GPA up to now is loaded with gen ed and required courses, not your major. The rest of your classes will be mainly in your field, where presumably you will do better. (And grad admissions people know this, and are more interested in your GPA in your major than overall.)

On the other hand, if you are barely a B- student you might want to reconsider the idea of grad school. Things only get harder there.
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>>17678726
>what's stressing you out
Everything associated with college. Nothing's fun anymore. And I know I could get straight As if I had my girlfriend back.
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>>17678735
My major GPA is 4.0. But most grad schools want a cumulative undergrad GPA of at least 3.0. Same with law school.
I guess I just don't want to hit the dead end I know I'm inevitably going to hit.
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>>17678728
It's not necessary, and continuing to hold onto that belief will only hurt you. You don't need a romantic relationship to be the best version of yourself you can be.

I was a godawful student until the beginning of my sophomore year of college (2.7 at the end of freshman), and then I got my shit in order and proceeded to get 3.8 average my sophomore year. Changing my attitude and outlook also got me a gf, because I was concerned with bettering myself for the sake of becoming a better person, and that turns women on.

I can understand the motivation that a relationship provides, but if there's one thing I learned it's that the best love you can receive is from yourself.
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How about you stop your bitching and study harder?

This is not meant to put you down, this is the only route to better grades. Put in the time in, don't be a bitch.

Sauce: 4.0 GPA in uni. I was miserable through most of college, but I destroyed those exams.
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>>17678765
You say you were god awful an and got a 2.7. This attitude terrfies me. You achieved well above the supposed average and you hated yourself for it.
And then you started date someone and just so happened to also get nearly perfect grades?
Explain to me the exact process you went through that got you with the QT, because that seems to be the variable of interest in both our scenerios.
>>17678777
>4.0
Interesting, and I have a few inportant questions:
>guy or girl?
If you're a guy:
>major?
>were you in a relationship at the time?
>how frequently did you have sex?
>how many friends did you have?
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>>17678948
>2.7
>above average

lol, they may accept 3.0 but no one gives a shit about anything under 3.5 because I guarantee that there are dozens of kids in your major with 3.8+

Once you have the degree most places dont give a shit about what GPA you had though.

Fucking get over yourself and do the work thats needed.
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>>17678752
>But most grad schools want a cumulative undergrad GPA of at least 3.0.
That's what's required to get them to look at your application. Most won't accept you unless you have a GPA of 3.5 or above. That being said, getting into a grad school requires more factors than just your GPA; GRE scores, letters of intent, and recommendations all count more. Also, your program should look at your major GPA, too. But in general, if you're lacking in something, you better be able to make up for it in the other areas.

But, like someone else said, grad school really might not be the best option for you. It's really tough and requires much more work than undergrad. If you can barely maintain a C average, grad school might be too much. It's worth thinking about.
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>>17679062
>>17679111
Isn't 2.0 supposedly the average?
I got my masters in Mechanical Engineering in 1982, and my undergrad GPA was 2.4. When I read about students having an existential crisis over having a 3.0 I wonder what the fuck is up with you kids. I'm skeptical that the standardshave changed that drastically.
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>>17679252
Yes 2.0 is technically the average but changing standards and expectations have skewed that a lot.

You should hide your gpa under 3.5, and you have nothing to brag about unless you are 3.7 and above.

Some dumbass put down 3.2 on his resume when he applied for a job at my work. Bad fucking idea, not only should you not even being putting your GPA down, you certainly shouldn't unless its something impressive. He didn't even get an interview (the rest of his resume sucked, but still)
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>>17679252
The standards sure as hell have gone up. Now just graduating high school is looked at like people who were high school dropouts.
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>>17679252
Grade inflation happened. A 2.0 now is worth less than a 2.0 thirty years ago.
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Since I've made this thread, I got rejected by another girl. One of them has to evetually say yes to a first date, but this is daunting.
>>17679062
>just do the work
Wow, I never thought of that, you've really opened my eyes.
>>17679111
I mean, I'm not getting a C average, but honestly I can make it through grad school provided I can get in somewhere, but I'll more than likely need a girlfriend/wife by then if I ever hope to make it through.
>>17679252
"It doesn't matter what your grades are, the important thing is that you get your degree." - millionaire parents who cruised through college with 2.2 GPAs.
I'm not even sure how grad schools are making money anymore tbqph.
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>>17679327
>inflation
Doesn't that occur with intrinsically worthless items such as currency? A 2.0 in a degree such as engineering was earned in roughly the same way it was 30 years ago. What gives?
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>>17679360
>I can make it through grad school provided I can get in somewhere,
But why do you think that? You started this thread by saying that you're too stressed to do the undergrad work that you're currently doing. Being in grad school is only going to increase your workload. If you can't handle undergrad, you probably can't handle graduate school.

And why the fixation on getting a girlfriend? A girlfriend isn't going to cause you to have better grades. If anything, the opposite is true. It's another time obligation, and dealing with a relationship will cause even more stress.
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>>17679397
The work load nearly vanishes when I'm dating someone. As I mentioned before, when I was in high school, I was a C student. Then I got into a year and a half relationship with a QT, and then I got a 4.0 for those 3 semesters we were dating. And then when she left me, I was a C student again.
I feel like some people here might take girls and dating for granted, therefore don't see the cause and effect, but anyone in my situation knows that life only happens in a relationship. Although I was hoping someone could give me advice around the girlfriend part. Like if there were some surrogate that could produce a similar effects.
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>>17679430
>life only happens in a relationship
holy shit how can you be so wrong

you need to work on yourself if you cant handle being by yourself...
Why would a woman want to be with a guy who like that?
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OP, I can tell you now that even if you do miraculously manage to get into grad school, you're going to struggle. You're not cut out for it, you need to accept that
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>>17679436
So I just need 2 b myself??? But seriously, I've been trying my best being single for 3 years now. It isn't working. Also, how can a woman even see that I can't handle being by myself? Serious question.
>>17679437
Interesting analysis. I will consider it. Minimally, but I will nonetheless.
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>>17679489
>how can a woman even see that I can't handle being by myself?
You're clingy and overly affectionate when you're with her, implying that you can't handle being alone.
You're jealous or insecure, implying that you can't handle the fact that you're not 100% her world.
You have nothing going on in your life that you're truly interested in or passionate about, implying that you're not satisfied with life unless you're in a relationship, since you don't get any pleasure out of anything else.
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>>17679489
Where did i say >just be urself

Being able to adapt to social situations is fucking crucial, and not being a complete fucking autist is generally a good idea.
However, being ashamed of your interests or hobbies will do more to hurt you than being confident about them.
I am not ashamed to like anime/manga but I dont sperg out on people about it.

You aren't trying your best, because you wouldn't be here asking this question or having this problem if you were.

This >>17679511
is pretty on point.
Women can FEEL the desperation. I pull way more women by not actively hunting them than pursuing any girl I find somewhat attractive.

I am confident, moderately successful and funny, but above all, I know that I am my number one priority and by showing others my drive they see my ability to care for them.

The term "my other half" is shit because it implies you cannot be whole outside of a relationship. Being a well-rounded interesting person with interests and passions is ALWAYS better than not.
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>>17679489
>I will consider it. Minimally, but I will nonetheless.
Not even that guy, but you should think about it way more than how much you want a girlfriend.

Grad school is hard, stressful work. You're having such a hard time dealing with the stress of undergrad that you're coming here to ask us how to get a girlfriend so she can magically make you do better in school. It doesn't work like that. You're obviously not driven or motivated enough to be successful in grad school at this point. Learn how to motivate yourself and stop thinking that being a relationship will fix your problems; your lack of a girlfriend isn't the issue, you are.
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>>17679489
>Interesting analysis. I will consider it. Minimally, but I will nonetheless.
Grad school is a million times harder than undergrad. If you're struggling to maintain a GPA high enough to get into grad school right now, you're not going to pass in grad school. The GPA requirement is there for a reason, it's not just there to stop you from achieving your goals.
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>>17679374
I'm not sure you understand inflation.

If the supply of engineering students doubles, and the demand for labor stays the same, then obviously the standards for getting a job will go up.
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>>17679360
Just started grad school here.

>I can make it through provided I get in
I had a 3.8 in undergrad, I usually get B's now.

>More likely I'll need a girlfriend/wife by then
I spend at least 10 hours a day working. I wouldn't have time for a gf even if I wanted one. There's only two people in relationships in the entire program, and they're both older, and got married before they enrolled.

>I'm not even sure how grad schools are making money anymore.
PhDs pay you to come. They just subsidize your tuition using undergraduate tuition. For professional degrees there's just that much demand for the education that they can afford to be picky.
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>>17679511
I'm not clingy or over affectionate toward anyone, nor was I to my exgf. Where are you even getting that from? I personally believe I'd be a fun boyfriend. I'm truely interested in plenty of things, I just need to have a romantic and sexual relationship to give me energy and remove existential anxiety.
I can bury myself in work, exersise, and hobbies, but the bottom line is I need a secure attachment with a woman before I can over achieve effortlessly.
But I have gotten rejected over 100 times in the past year, so maybe they can see something in me that I can't. And truth betold, I'd prolly use the energy I get from the first girl to get a better girl, which is what I was about to do in my first relationship before she left me for a better guy first.
So let's assume I am insecure and just the worst guy for a girl to be with, how do I break the vicious cycle? Or are you just trying to tell me that I'm a piece of shit and should just fail college and never get a girl ever again?
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>>17678693
>need girlfriend to get straight As
wat
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>>17679547
>the requirement is there for a reason
My father had a 2.2 in undergrad and he got his masters. My mother had a 2.3 in undergrad and is a surgeon now. The requirement is there due to grade inflation, and nothing more. Of course it's harder, but it's not "le bazillion times harder :^)".
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OP, a lot of people are saying grad school is harder than undergrad. Maybe. I'm a grad student in math right now and it isn't significantly harder than undergrad. It is still hard, but I spend only slightly more time now than I did before.

What will really make the difference is if you enjoy your major or not. If you enjoy it, then you won't mind spending hours upon hours on your work (someone mentioned 10 hours per day, which is what I do). If you don't, then grad school will either be hellish or you just won't do the work.
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>>17679614
Imagine what your GPA would be absent grade inflation. :^)
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>>17678693
>need a girlfriend to get straight As
that's certainly a healthy attitude that will get you far in life
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>>17679587
Kek
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>>17679653
It would be 2.65, famalam. The material and the way the classes are being graded are the same. Grade inflation is just raising what an acceptable GPA is.
For example, the average undergrad GPA was ~2.5 in 1950, and now it's ~3.3.
But, while performing as well as good students in 1950, I perform mediocre in today's standards.
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>>17679678

Your argument follows only if you believe the average student today is better than the average student in 1950. If "The material and the way the classes are being graded are the same" then the average college student has gotten smarter/harder working. I find that hard to believe.
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>>17678693
I had that attitude my sophomore year of uni. I did eventually start dating some bitch, and it did turn my 2.5 into a 3.5 by graduation. Focus on getting girls this semester and it will pay off later. Also, if you're not already, start lifting, get a nice car, and play guitar or something.
But protip: dump the bitch after graduation. You don't want her around in grad school if you make it there, because you won't have time for her. You're on your own after graduation, sadly.
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>>17679678
>Average GPA now is 3.3
>OP GPA 2.65, well below average
>Average GPA in 1950 is 2.5
>OP somehow magically goes from being an below average student to an above average student.

Not sure you know how grade inflation works, desu. It effects everyone equally. The same student who had a 2.5 in 1950 would have a 3.3 today. The shape of the distribution is still generally the same, it just skews right.
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>>17679706
You find that hard to believe because you're fucking retarded. College students need to work hard to get the same output.
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>>17678693
op isn't lying.
gf=consistent sex=more drive=better grades
i mean if op hasnt had sex in years it's prolly a but harder for him to do as well as he could
here's one of many articles on it:
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3755271
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>>17679712
A 2.5 is a 2.5, though. The actual grades that went into making the 2.5 is the same in 1950 and 2016. An A still contributes to a 4.0, and a C still contributes to a 2.0. Those values and the difficulty of the classes haven't significantly changed. The inflation refers to the value that a certain GPA has toward grad schools, law schools, and employers. The average is greater because students are forced to compete with each other above earning the actual degree.
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>TFW reading this in class and just thinking about how much I want to drop out
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>>17679768
>average is greater because students are forced to compete with each other above earning the actual degree.
Yeah, that's the world we live in now. It's also why so many students have to do volunteer projects and internships that people never had to do in the past.

OP seems to think he'll be fine because his parents did. It's foolish of him to expect that, because academic culture has changed. As other has stated, most places don't really consider you with less than a 3.5. What things were in the past doesn't change that, and it doesn't mean that OP isn't a mediocre student. He is, and he seems to have a very entitled view of how things should work out for him. The truth is, he's not motivated enough and just expects things to work out for him. The real world, grad school included, doesn't work like that.
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>>17679810
>work harder for less result
>surprised and offended when this leads to discontent
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>>17679727
Dude, have you ever had a gf or known anyone that did?

Its like the opposite of truth.

Less sex= more drive = better grades.
Unless your fapping yourself into a coma and on pornhub 4 hours a day.
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>>17679834
I've never had a female express interest in me once and I'm considering dropping out.

What now, fuccboi?
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>>17678693
>>need girlfriend to get straight As
What the fuck
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>>17679810
Dude you are fucked up, why did you ever want to be Grad School material anyway you hate school. 2.4 to a 2.6 is not really loving school type grades.

Do a trade and just made an easy 70K a year who gives a shit. Electrician or chef and make your own restaurant.

What are you gonna do, lawyer, doctor? How will you even that Calculus III bullshit in college anyway if you want STEM?

Take it from a guy who was unemployed 2 years after grad school its totally overpriced and shitty and hard for what you get unless you are driven to do nothing but work. I still have some fucked 85K debt from it because I was too dumb to get scholarships but did it anyway and you have a lower GPA then I did.

If you want to have sex BTW don't go through usual channels, just be up front on Tinder and say 'I know someone out there wants 100 bucks, you know what I mean'. If a cop talks to you, say you meant to do a club and buy 100 bucks of liquor. Trust me, ho's are on there.
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>>17679768
I'm not sure you understand what grade inflation is. The students themselves are exactly the same, professors are just awarding higher grades for the same work.

Get the definition for grade inflation: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/grade+inflation at Dictionary.com
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I know /adv/ likes to argue about irrelevant things, but the fact still remains that OP isn't performing as well as he needs to in order to get into grad school. Grade inflation doesn't matter, he still needs to achieve a 3.0 but is only sitting on a 2.65.
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>>17679942
This. OP has a realistic, simple goal, and everyone keeps telling him that he's shit without actually giving him any reasonably useful advice.
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>>17680359
There's a reason no one's given him 'reasonably useful advice': OP's question is 'how do I get a girlfriend?' which most people here are sick of seeing.
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>>17678693
>need girlfriend to get straight As
What the fuck lol.
No you don't your gf aint gonna be going to classes for you and doing all your work for you. Fucking suck it up and study bonehead.
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>>17678693
retake courses for a higher GPA. It's the only way. Just add one retake course every semester from here on out and you should be fine. It's much easier to get a higher grade in a course you've already taken.
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>>17680359
>OP has a realistic, simple goal
Not really. He's telling us he isn't doing as well as he'd like in college, blaming it on his lack of a girlfriend, and asking for help with how to get one to fix his school problem. The premise of this thread is nonsensical, and OP keeps refusing to admit that his goal is ridiculous and all he needs to do is work harder.

He's just mad that no one told him what he wanted to hear. This thread actually has been good advice. It's full of information about what grad school will actually be like, and other things that the OP hasn't actually realized about life.That's even the point of the post you quoted. OP isn't performing well, and he needs to start instead of just bitching about not having a girlfriend and trying to rationalize his low grades by saying they would have been good enough in the 1950s.
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>>17678737
We both know that's bullshit.
You have litterally zero valid excuses for doing piss poorly. Either man the fuck up and do well, or get fucked.
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>>17680461
>turning 2.65 GPA into a 3.0 in 4 semesters
>unrealistic
OP does have a point however. Some people do better when they're with someone who makes then happy.
All that aside, most of the post here read like some 16 year old pretending to be a grad student typed it up.
>"lmao just do the work"
>"dood just give up u suck"
>*insert empty moral platitude about being urself*
The typical /adv/ browser just posts in threse threads to be rude and uninformative for some reason. Only a few posts could even remotely help OP with relevant information.
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>>17680461
In OP's defense, everyone else is equally or more mad.
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>>17678948

I'm >>17678765
First of all, 2.65 is well below average college GPA, which is in the neighborhood of 3.1-3.3. The only reason my GPA was as high as it was is because of some bullshit easy courses, I was pulling C's and D's in the courses that actually mattered and my major GPA was trash.

I got injured and went through a period of severe depression which made me realize that I had been depressed for a long period of time. I had family issues, self-esteem issues, trust issues, and was a virgin who had never done anything other than kissed a girl. So I channeled all that pain into school in order to avoid the crushing agony that my life had become. I was a miserable robot, but I got my shit done and worked through my issues with help from therapy.

Spring semester rolled around, and I felt like an actual person for the first time in as long as I could remember. I had goals, I had dreams, and I didn't really give a fuck about being a virgin anymore. Met ridiculously beautiful girl, asked her out, went on a few dates and she told me she just wanted to be friends. Said ok, and kept doing my own thing and working on myself while still being friends with her because I really enjoyed her company outside of a romantic context. As we spent more time together she saw more and more of me as a person and how much of a drive I had for the things that mattered to me. She ended up making a move on me despite earlier stating she wasn't interested.

Women don't want someone that's dependent on them. They want someone who brings their own motivations and aspirations to the table, not someone who latches onto them in order to feel good enough to get things done. You not putting your benis in vagoo is not what's causing you to have bad grades, it's you not doing your work to the standard you want it to be. Accept your own shortcomings and actively do something to try and improve yourself.
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Graduated with a 2.03 from a tier 1. Got my fucking degree and started over GPA-wise at a try hard wanna-be tier 1.

What I am doing: graduated, go elsewhere, get my/your shit together, get related work experience (internships/coop), maybe undergrad research, an extracurricular (?). Basically, do it right.

Or ace some interviews and keep your fingers crossed. Focus on your story, personal brand, and werk it.
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>>17681218
I took picked up engineering at said wannabe tier 1. After taking the GRE I am applying grad schools.
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