Fight with boyfriend over cellulite

>>17591536
>>INFP gf (me)
kek, I see you have long left your sanity behind. I havent read the rest but I know that this is gonna be hilarious

>>17591544
So we had a long argument about how he just doesn't want to see and I'm doing permanent damage and I'm now "cellulite ass" (which feels like a little boy teasing me) and how "your ass=cellulite, you=cellulite", which really hurt my feelings. He kept saying to drop it, but I know if I hide how I feel I'm going to resent him even more. I wanted to solve this issue.


Then when he told me to send the cellulite-y pic for the third time (the first he said "Just kidding. Don't really" and the second time I didn't), he said "You need to think about how disrespectful it was to keep this whole thing up and press the issue until you actually sent me that pic that I blatantly told you I didn't want to see. And think about if you'll be able to trust me to know what's best sometimes, for you but especially knowing my own mind. This whole thing is destructive." Then I said "Maybe you need a more submissive girlfriend" and I called him an ass. (Which I know I shouldn't have, 2 wrongs don't make a right, but I was done)

Just the day before yesterday we had a talk for a few hours about how if I'm upset about something he said, he'll try to be more empathetic, sympathetic, and sensitive to how I feel. Then this happens.

What the fuck do I do? I care about him so much, but things are like black and white. When things are good, it's the best relationship I've ever had, when they're bad, they're some of the worst fights I've ever had in a relationship. This relationship feels like a roller coaster, and I want to "fix" it, but I don't know how.

How old are you? How lpng have you been dating?
Seriously, you should first try to fix yourself atleast a little bit. Then find a guy that isn't a blinking pile of red flags. As for now, drop contact and focus on getting your shit together

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He sounds more like your father than your boyfriend. Get out of there asap. A boyfriend should be loving, warm and make you feel like a million bucks, not tear into your insecurity and treat you like a child.

Also he seems stubborn and doesn't want to change which further solidifies your answer.

>>17591544
Oops haha. Sorry. Didn't mean to reply to you.
I know INFPs are emotional, but I honestly think I'm one of the better ones. I try really hard to be open, honest, and considerate. I only was mean at the very end of the convo.

>>17591548
Sometimes I think he's just bad at communication, but I care for him a lot and want it to work/be fixed because like my post said, the good parts are amazing.

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>>17591562
>A boyfriend should be loving, warm and make you feel like a million bucks
No way I;ve been doing it wrong my entire life, no wonder my gf hits me

>>17591554
>>17591536
So, can we see it, ms. Cellulite ass ?

>>17591536
>20 years older than me

Found your problem, sugar baby.

>>17591560
Barely legal. I'm in my first year of college. He's in his late 30's and is a nurse.
I thought the same thing, but I've tried very hard to work on myself. I had (have?) PTSD and got therapy, I learned how to communicate and hold back from being very aggressive (I'm prone to being passive aggressive and hot tempered), I learned to love my body. I know cellulite is genetic and there's nothing I can do about it, but I was afraid he'd think it was ugly because women my age don't normally get cellulite.

>>17591562
He makes me feel like a million bucks when we aren't fighting. And before the argument, he called it perfect etc. But it feels like a lie when he says it's perfect, it's still perfect even with cellulite, but he won't want to see it in unflattering lighting. He has seen my face without makeup, with/without glasses, and he's seen my boobs in unflattering ways too. So it makes me feel bad he's so opposed to seeing the cellulite that I've been so careful not to show with angles and lighting.

>>17591536
>he hasn't seen it in person, but he's seen pics of it.
>He said it's perfect, so I ask if he would still love it if it had cellulite.
>He said yes, so when I asked to send a pic he said "No thanks."
you are insane

>>17591587
>>17591590
He's not a sugar daddy. He's a nurse and we live in Florida (where nurses aren't in high demand). He makes average income.

>bf
>haven't had sex

Literally why.

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>>17591590

>18 year old girl is dating a 39 year old nurse

I guess Jimmy or Edward in your class weren't good enough so you had to go for a some pansy 39 year old nurse. Nice nice. And you gave him nudes without having sex with him.

How does it feel to be a slut?

>>17591594
so average income daddy
yep much more common now

Get the fuck out of there immediately

>>17591593
How am I insane? I mean he's seen pics of it with good lighting/angles, but he has never seen it with bad angles/lighting where you can tell I have cellulite.

>>17591598
from her description I doubt Jimmy or Edward wants her

A girl dating a man considerably older than her as issues with her father.

Well OP, by all means tell us what seems to be the problem with your relationship with daddy and why dating a man who is 40 is your idea of normal. Go on, the stage is yours pumpkin.

>>17591594
It doesn't matter, what do you even have in common with this guy? How old is your dad? I believe you're an immature child who was seduced by a man who has his shit together and that's all that your relationship is based on. A late 30s man has nothing in common with an 18 year old. There is just no possible way, based on your entire experience you just explained, that he is interested in anything but sex with a just-graduated piece of ass with a bald pussy. He makes you feel like a million bucks because he is almost 40 years old, he knows exactly what to say because he is experienced with women for years, and as an 18 year old, you are not, so almost anything can impress you. A woman his age would see right through his shit, so it is easy for him to maintain this relationship. I mean, look at it this way. Would a 35 year old woman still be with a man after he blatantly tells her "no I don't want a picture of your cellulite ass" with no joke intended? Of course not. It is easy for him to be with an insecure, inexperienced girl like yourself because you are young and don't know any better. Sorry bud.

>>17591595
Because I have PTSD from being raped and having sex makes me cry from sheer pain. With my last boyfriend (who was my first real sexual partner), it hurt HORRIBLY when he barely touched me.

>>17591598
I'm not going to bother arguing with this.

>>17591614
My dad is actually about just as much older than my boyfriend as my boyfriend is older than me.

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>39 year old male nurse finds a crazy 20 year old gf and keeps on insulting her ass

>>17591619
Curious, does your dad know about this relationship? If so, what does he think of it?

>>17591619

>My dad is actually about just as much older than my boyfriend as my boyfriend is older than me.

Not the question I asked, what is your relationship with your father? Why are you dating a man who is so much older than you. This isn't normal behaviour for a girl your age is the point I am making.

>>17591619
>PTSD from being raped
ooof this just gets better and better

>>17591619
>my dad is older than him

Cool, but why are you attracted to a ~38 year old at your age? What do you find appealing about him? I just personally want to know what you see in this guy that a man your age, 23, even 26 years old can provide.

>>17591616
We do have some stuff in common. We have the same sense of humor, we watch the same TV shows (he is a movie buff), we both like "quirky" things (he collects weird stuff). But you are right. I think the issue is also that I give people the benefit of the doubt too much...I have wondered if he is using me, but I didn't want to believe it because we can hold conversations for hours that don't involve sex.
I'm starting to feel like you're right though.

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>>17591572
Why didn't he run away?

>>17591633
>I'm starting to believe you're right

Because I have had an ex girlfriend who dumped me for a 50 year old and then he cheated on her 6 months later, with many other women. Not like im saying he is doing this, thats not the point. But she claimed the same shit, that he "understood her" and they "enjoy time together and have a lot in common". Yeah its easy to like the same TV shows or have a shared quirk hobby, or holding conversations. It is much easier for a 40 year old to hold conversations with a girl your age because he has 40 years of conversations stocked up. Men that age know exactly what they have to do to maintain interaction.

>>17591625
No, he doesn't. My dad is against me dating in general. I had a boyfriend in high school (it was just a "might as well" relationship, no serious attachment) and he flipped and made is break up.
Which was for the best, since it turns out that guy has child porn and harassed me for a while.

>>17591626
My relationship with both my parents is rocky, but my relationship with my mom is worse than my dad. My dad and I have different opinions politically, and he can be insensitive sometimes. But he tried very hard to provide for my family. My mom is very ill and unappreciative of everything he does for her, and can be kind of a bitch.
Also, my parents knows about the rape. They were both supportive.

My first crush was on my music teacher in 4th grade, so I think I've just always liked older men.

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>>17591646
> dad is against me dating in general. I had a boyfriend in high school (it was just a "might as well" relationship, no serious attachment) and he flipped and made is break up.
>Which was for the best, since it turns out that guy has child porn and harassed me for a while.
what the fuck lol

>>17591656
I know lol. In hindsight, it's funny, and my dad unintentionally saved me from a horror show, but at the time it was terrifying. He followed me around school and stared at me, lied to one of my best friends about me, and we all found out later he had child porn. He was a year or two older btw.

Hi, INFP submissive woman here (29).

Used to be an anti-feminist and all for Men's Rights, but shit can get very heavy when encountering things that lack common sense, as you did.

Drop the guy. He clearly is not interested in anything that would resemble a deep connection, which you crave, both physically and emotionally.

Drop anyone who does not see beyond the tiny bits of cellulite. Usually men don't even care about that when you first have sex with them, they care about how you move and how deeply you can satisfy their most hidden fantasies. Tell him to buy a plastic doll. If he would be mature enough he would know that since you are very young it is normal to have a not-so-mature body-image, but the prick is just a narcissist that tries to rebuild his broken ego by making you suffer and doubt yourself.

Find a guy that would treat you like a slut despite small imperfections.

I guarantee you will live a happy life afterwards.

>>17591665
And he made fake facebooks messaging me on like "he really misses u"
Maybe that's why I'm unattracted to guys my age...haha

>>17591665

I am going to cut to the chase, pick better guys and stop dating freaks.

Wow no wonder most of you can't get fucking girls. Your all actually a bunch of misogynist.

Heaven forbid women enjoy sex/embrace their sexuality

>>17591665
>>17591669
I think it's time to let you know, the child porn and fake fb profiles are all your dad's, your ex got framed.

>>17591669
No, I just think that you, like many women nowadays, put yourself on a pedestal of maturity, and view guys your age as still childish, and unreliable, immature etc; while you are just the same as them. You see older men as better because of this, thinking that just because they are older it means they are more mature, can give you a better connection, etc when this is simply not true.

>>17591677
wrong thread ?

INFP submissive woman again here.

The last guy that I talked to used to call me a dumb bitch, then got hurt when I dropped his sorry ass INSTANTLY without any remorse.

He actually said I bully him for calling him out on it, assigning "negative connotations" to the words "dumb bitch".

Also there are a lot of freaks out there that despise if a woman has highly developed sexuality. Ditch them at once from your attention radar. Find one that would cherish yours and make it grow beautifully.

Don't take shit.

Be without remorse with these kinds of pathetic freaks.

>>17591666
Thank you very much for the advice, but he does empower my body and stuff, this is the first time he's ever said anything remotely negative about it. He always tells me how sexy and beautiful and pretty I am. His argument is he just didn't want to see it or talk about it, which I don't understand. He says he doesn't care about cellulite, but it pisses him off how "obsessed" I am with it. I don't understand why he was so insistent on not seeing a pic where the cellulite is included. What do you think?

>>17591681
I know I'm immature. As I've already said, I've always been attracted to older men. I've never had a physical attraction to someone who isn't like 30+ (or at least looks it)
Relationships I've had with people my age just fall flat because there's no attraction on my end.

>>17591683
>people calling me a slut for sending pics of my butt to my bf

>>17591691
But he's never called me a mean name like that. I'd dump him if he called me a dumb bitch too. My last boyfriend called me a cold hearted bitch and that's why we broke up.

>>17591700
I think the guy is contradicting himself, and shouldn't make a big deal out of your desire to be perfect (no cellulite), which is normal at this age but practically impossible. Every woman has tiny bits at a certain point, it's not the end of the world. Actually focusing on it makes it worse. If he is using some sort of reverse psychology that is the dumbest thing he can ever do.

>>17591646
>No, he doesn't. My dad is against me dating in general
wat
>My relationship with both my parents is rocky, but my relationship with my mom is worse than my dad.
WAT

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>>17591691
>The last guy that I talked to used to call me a dumb bitch, then got hurt when I dropped his sorry ass INSTANTLY without any remorse.

lol what ? that easy ? your relationship was doomed long before that

>Also there are a lot of freaks out there that despise if a woman has highly developed sexuality. Ditch them at once from your attention radar. Find one that would cherish yours and make it grow beautifully

haha

>>17591711
I thought name calling is part of the silly couple banters like I called my gf dumb bitch all the time and she knows I'm joking lol

>>17591719
>people with highly dysfunctional relations are handing out advice on /adv/
I don't know what to believe.

Girl... if you think that a 38 year old guy is ok with dating a young girl who doesn't want to have sex, I've got news for you. He is fucking other girls.

>>17591719

>calling insulting your SO banter

Stay classy, anon. Bitches love that.

>>17591724
This.

>>17591715
I know he is. It feels contradicting when he calls me sweet names and tells me he thinks my body is perfect, even if I did have cellulite, but he doesn't want to see my cellulite? Can a man here explain this?

>>17591719
It wasn't dumb banters though. It was my ex calling me a bitch and comparing me to his ex wife during an argument.

>>17591732
what kind of people are you picking up, dayum.

>>17591719
I am sure you have a very mature approach to solving relationship problems.


Yes, that easy.

xD

>>17591732
>he calls me sweet names and tells me he thinks my body is perfect, even if I did have cellulite, but he doesn't want to see my cellulite? Can a man here explain this?

well he gives you affection hoping to hit that 18 yo pussy some day and bang other sluts in the mean time and eventually grow tired of your shit

>>17591536
>>17591554

Holy fuck you are annoying. You are the one making the cellulite a problem. He only started teasing you over you wouldn't let it go. The most discussing thing about you is your crippling insecurity.

>>17591536
OP, I don't usually recommend breakups, but I really don't think you guys are right for each other. you sound young and self-absorbed, and he sounds immature for his age and self-absorbed. he also sounds like he doesn't love you but doesn't have the balls to actually break up with you, so he's just insulting you instead and hoping you'll leave.

I recommend you take a couple years off from dating and work on some of your issues. there will still be plenty of middle-aged manbabies to choose from if you're still into that by then. you can talk to a dermatologist about the cellulite if you want, but I can guarantee there are guys out there who a) don't mind it and b) don't act like they're in third grade.

>>17591700
>people calling me a slut for sending pics of my butt to my bf
I look forward to seeing your pics online when you guys break up. Sharing images of yourself is not exploring your sexuality it just either really dumb or slutty.

>>17591769
^Guy, open minded, trying to tell a young woman what sexuality is about.

What's wrong with having your bf jerking off to your naked pics? If he is an ass and decided to retaliate the breakup afterwards by sharing the pics, it's his problem.

>>17591536
can't tell if this is a shitpost, or if OP is just really, really, retarded.

judging by your use of personality test terms to describe your social situation, the fact that your boyfriend is 20 years older than you, and how your sentences aren't very clear, I'm going to assume you are a literal retard.
pretty much everything about your post screams "i'm mentally ill(or just retarded)". you even say yourself that you might have a mental disorder. I agree. You should probably see a psychiatrist.

also, so you know, cellulite ISN'T genetic, and if you have it, it's your fault for eating unhealthily and or not getting enough excersize.

I really am serious about you having a mental disorder.
That wasn't meant to be an insult. You actually seem pretty fucking retarded.
Considering that you apparently aren't diagnosed, you might want to get some help with that.

>>17591605
lol. >>17591598
no all girls are sluts mr.r9k.
I think the reason she is with a 39 year old is because she is mentally ill.
I mean that literally. Just look at her post.

>>17591779
>If he is an ass and decided to retaliate the breakup afterwards by sharing the pics, it's his problem.

Well it isn't by definition. Sure he is an idiot, but the world is full of idiots and you have to work from the hypothesis that most people are out to hurt you if they get the chance and have a reason. So doing something that exposes you is either dumb or if the possibility of them getting shared turns you on, its sexually promiscuous - which is the dictionary definition of slutty.

If you want to be sexually promiscuous go ahead, but you can not control what others think about it.

>>17591802
This is overly besides the point of the original post, but following your logic, if you share pics with your bf and stuff goes wrong, and he shares the pics to the world because he thinks that would actually solve something, so others can jerk off to them, the woman is sexually promiscuous.

>>17591802
Also I find your view overly paranoid, not everyone in the world is out to get you. Only a few assholes.

It's pretty ironic they call it a cellulite phone when you can take it jogging.

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>>17591786
Pic related
Mentally ill=/=retarded
Having borderline personality disorder isn't being retarded.

He's plying you to get nudie pics for an amateur porn site you moron. That's why he doesn't want unflattering pictures

>>17591748
Because he says he loves my body despite cellulite, but he doesn't want to see it.

>>17591758
I asked him upfront if he wanted to break up during our talk the other day, and I almost broke up with him. He told me he thinks I'm worth it.
Thank you for the advice, though. Like I said, I've been working on myself a lot.

>>17592051
Lol funny food for thought, but he's really bad with technology and he only has a few pics of me saved.

>>17591683
No this thread. And every thread where a girl mentions having sex in general.

It's always ment with a bunch of people talking down to her, instantly. No one gives shit to the guys who sleep around and in fact its often incouraged, but it fucking seems like whenever a girl doesn't save herself for marriage it's instantly met with a fucktonne of people "slutshaming" her.

/pol/ fucking invaded this place didn't they

>>17591536
the dude must be so desperate if hes putting up with your childish behavior for some pussey/ass
also you're reeking of daddy issues with all the
"notice me, senpai"
"i need someone to tell me im not ugly tee hee"
"please accept me"
desu all you need is some good fuck all youll forget about your ass, this will work for a limited time until you realize you have to love urself how u are, thats the fucking key however it may sound cheesy love urself you stupid fuck
good luck

>>17592107
approval seeking behavior is whats its called i believe
>>17591677
>Your all actually a bunch of misogynist.
jesus fucking christ and reddit sjw in da house
god forbid someone has a different view than yours
>pol
lmao kys

>>17592107
So actively making your girlfriend feel shitty about her looks is ok?

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>>17591536
>be intj bf (me)
>INFP gf 1 year older than me
>things are great
>has absolutely nothing to do with online personality quizzes.

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>this thread

>>17592311
INTJ girl dating INFP guy.
Match mad in heaven.

Probably nothing to do with online personality quizzes, tho.

>>17591536
So, here's the deal.

Yer autistic, 'arry.

Also you're immature and annoying and approval seeking, and he's a massive fucking douchecanoe.

Dump him, lose some weight, go out and socialize, enjoy better life.

>>17591536
>He's also 20 years older than me.
>he is mad, tells me to drop it, calls me "cellulite ass"

What the actual fuck?

My first instinct was to tell you he's just being young, immature, and dumb... but he's 20 years older than you?!?

This goes beyond man child.


Anyway... Completely putting that aside, This relationship is CLEARLY not healthy for you. A good relationship will have it's own ups and downs, but those ups and downs should be thrilling, not harmful. A good relationship should ultimately function as a backup support structure for you, not extra baggage to weight you down or chip away at your esteem. (I want to make it clear that a relationship is not a crutch nor is it worry free. YOU should be your own primary support, but a relationship should help facilitate that. You still have to work at it, but it should never obstruct you).

This does not sound like a good relationship. This sounds like a harmful relationship.

No matter how good the good parts are, that doesn't erase or excuse the bad ones.

I'm not saying it will escalate to more, but realize that you're using the same logic that other people use to end up tricking themselves in to staying in relationships where they get verbally abused/get bones broken/have their kids beat up.

Get out.

>>17591802


Let me give you a proper definition of what you are actually implying:

Revenge porn (sometimes lengthened to revenge pornography) is the sexually explicit portrayal of one or more people distributed without their consent via any medium.[1] The sexually explicit images or video may be made by a partner of an intimate relationship with the knowledge and consent of the subject, or it may be made without his or her knowledge. The possession of the material may be used by the partner to blackmail the subject into performing other sex acts, or to coerce him or her into continuing the relationship. In the wake of civil lawsuits and the increasing numbers of reported incidents, legislation has been passed in a number of countries and jurisdictions to outlaw the practice, though approaches have varied. The practice has also been described as a form of psychological abuse and domestic violence, as well as a form of sexual abuse.

Implying this shit is ok and normal. GTFO.

>>17592330
>lose some weight
??? I'm 5"5, 110 lbs, and have previously had eating disorders.
Why are you assuming I'm overweight?
And I do socialize.

>>17592337
Again, he normally is very supportive of my body and my style etc etc. He even is encouraging when I don't shave for a couple weeks simply because I don't want to (despite knowing he prefers shaven).
I just don't understand why, if he thinks my body is perfect, even if it does have cellulite, why he doesn't want to see it. Still wanting someone to explain this to me instead of going "hurrdurr ur a retard landwhale".
Thank you for the advice. If things don't get solved within the next day, I'll heavily consider leaving.

>>17592450
>victim shaming
>on 4ch
>nothing new
I once saw a rape victim on here and went to give support/advice, and people kept telling both of us that "regret isn't rape" when both cases were legitimate rape.

>>17592107
Also, I am sort of like that. Ever heard of the 5 love languages? My primary is "words of affirmation", so yes. I do need to be verbally told how my partner feels in order to feel loved. Physical actions don't properly display love to me.
Am I a little self conscious? Yes. The only things I'm self concious of are my cellulite and my nose sometimes. But everyone has things they're self concious of, not everyone has a perfect body image 365 days a year.
I feel I do love myself for the most part, but normally when I am in a negative mood is when I break down and criticize myself.

>>17592311
>>17592329
I'm happy it is working between you two. The reasom I included our personalities is because our personalities clash sometimes and it does have to do with the issue. I'm very feelings oriented while he's very logic oriented.
And, as I said, I need to be verbally told how my partner feels. He isn't very feel-y/emotional and is usually a man of few words. So a lot of the time when I harp about something bugging me (like today) he will shut down because I'm being too emotional.
I'm also one of those people who is like "it's not what you say, but how you say it". Which directly relates back me being upset about him saying he loves my body, despite cellulite, but doesn't want to see it.

>>17592501
And I should also include both people are intuitive, not sensing, which makes a huge difference between ISTP and INTJ.
NT will guage situations emotionally and make decisions logically, while ST will guage logically and make decisions logically. I guage situations emotionally and make my decisions emotionally.
Does that make sense?
It really is important because of how different his personality is from mine. He is very logical while I'm very emotional, so we don't understand eachother sometimes.
He'll think I'm being dramatic and I'll think he's being an ass.

Just skimming this thread but it sounds like OP's issues go deeper than her butt (pun not intended).

>>17592501
I dated a girl like you for quite some time

Not necessarily cellulite,though she was chunky and that didn't matter to me,but she strongly believed in the psychology of a relationship.

Which is ironic being that I actually majored in psychology and don't give two shits about the academic appropriation of a relationship.They should only be used as a very very VERY loose guideline for compatibility with partners.

Truth is OP,you have several issues with your partner,to the point that you might as well be fucking your father.Have you ever had that fantasy on more than one occasion?

>>17591632
I find him very physically attractive. He's also very funny, spontaneous, and normally level headed until we're both stubborn and clash heads.
I think a man younger than him could give me the same thing, but I happened to meet him and not a 25 year old who could provide it.
I've tried relationships with men in their 20s a LOT, and they usually were too emotional for me. I'm not saying every single one is like that, but my connection with my boyfriend is very good. He doesn't like it when I bring up our ages because it makes him feel bad.

Some people also might be wondering why he's unmarried. Some cheated on him, did drugs, etc. He also was in a really long relationship with a girl that he almost married, but she wouldn't pursue her dreams/her family manipulated her too much (forced her to give them thousands of dollars) which caused a drift.

Also to people implying he is or will leak my nudes, he is very monogamous/protective of me. I suggested an open relationship early on and he said no. He's clarified he doesn't want to see other people and doesn't want me seeing other people.
He only goes out a few hours max at a time (to a bar with friends or movies with friends), so I don't think he's cheating on me. Also he texts me throughout the night when he goes out.

>>17592536
>you might as well be fucking your father
She obviously already knows that. She has said in posts in this thread that she is "barely legal," yet her ex-bf was comparing her to HIS ex-wife
lololololol

>>17591544

please, read the rest it is an advance kind of shitposting

>>17591554

time stamp and cellulite ass or gtfo

>>17592536
No lol. My dad is ugly and not close to my type. I like men that are tall (my dad is short), bigger (not obese, but a little builtfat. my dad is skinny), and hairy (my dad is hairy but I find it gross on him).
Literally thinking of my dad in a sexual way revolts me.
Tbh I think it goes back to my music teacher being my first crush. He met my odeal type description, is the age, and showered me with lots of attention/favoritism (I was best at the recorder LOL)
I literally masturbated to him. So I think that's where the attraction comes from.

>>17592526
My butt is actually small lol. But yeah, I know I have a lot of baggage, but my boyfriend knows all this stuff, and I've directly told him I'm really...a lot. During our talk 2 days ago, I told him if he wants to leave, he should, but I need him to feel the effort is worth the relationship. He says he feels it's worth it.

>>17592547
Because his ex wife didn't have sex with him for several years and was very cold/distant. When sex became centered around me, he called me a cold hearted bitch because I inadvertently stopped touching him for a while. He knows the comparison was shitty and has since apologized for it haha. I'm not that upset about it anymore.

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>>17591536
>I know my cellulite is genetic, there's very little I can do about it.

Bullshit, you can eat less instead and get to 10℅ body fat mass.
Also drop that old man, seems like bad news desu.

>>17592606
Jeus. Read my other posts anon. I'm 5"5, 110 lbs at the most, there's no more fat TO drop. I'm not a fucking landwhale, I've had eating disorders and have since gotten over them but I'm still underweight.
And cellulite is genetic since how your body deposits fat is genetic. When the fat deposits in strips to the muscle, it causes cellulite. I can't help how my fat is deposited. I can't lose the fat in my butt because I'll have no fat anymore.

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Bringing popcorn as the discussion rapidly escalates into Freud-couch-like speech therapy, butt it seemed like that from the beginning.

*Puts Freud glasses on*

Hunches telling me that the intrapsychical conflict of OP is due to the fact that she insufficiently resolved the Elektra complex in childhood, the authoritarian paternal figure being dismantled from her psyche she searches another figure that would act as a surrogate for her psychosexual development phase: vaginal phase, although she is caught in the anal phase due to poor resolution of Elektra complex. Due to the conflict OP seeks an immature man that would send her sexual libido back to its initial phase. Until the conflict is not resolved OP will
still obsess over cellulite.

Elaborate shitposting commencing.

>>17592480
Cellulite implied fat, in your case it may truly be genetic. Okay then, stay fit, keep socializing, dump his ass. Unless this is an isolated incident, then maaaybe let it slide, but that sounds like a total shitbag.

Also regret isn't rape and rape is a horrible crime, anyone who thinks differently is clearly from a different planet.

>>17592480
Maybe he doesn't want to seem like a perv and respects you, but OP, consider breaking up regardless, relationships with guys twice your age never end up well.

>>17592624
But both my parents have always been around. and lol anal phase.

>>17592052
Sounds like you should have let the cellulite bullshit go, now he's doing to you what you do to him and it sucks.

>>17592622
Do squats and muscle will fill out the skin making it tight and hiding weird variations in your fat deposits that look like cellulite in the wrong light. Hug your boyfriend and thank him for being so understanding.

>>17591572
Fuck man what about Emma Roberts chompers? I gotta know!

>>17592638
That's why I'm going to talk it out with him this afternoon. Read my posts above about why I included our personality types, he's not very emotional at all. It doesn't mean he can't be nice, but he's very bad at properly displayinghis emotions.

>>17592639
I don't think I'm going to break up with him solely because of the age gap. I think we both really care for eachother, I really want to know how I can attempt to fix the issues of communication.
If it can't be fixed within the next couple days, then I'll end it.

>>17592661
No OP, trust me, it never ends up well. I've seen it over and over again, I've seen girls say the exact same things you're saying right now, it just never ends up well for the girl.

>>17592649
Can you help elaborate? I want to understand more from your perspective, which seems to be the same as his.

>>17592658
I have looked into butt exercises, and I think I might try them soon when I can get a gym membership (I'm the type who is unmotivated at home and productive in public). But my boyfriend, and past ones, tell me it might just burn off all the fat and make it smaller.
Also, why do you say hug him for being so understanding? Most people ITT are calling him an asshole. I want to know your perspective of how hes been understanding.

If you seriously think MBTI is real and date someone 20 years older than you without picking up how creepy that is you're a fucking idiot.

>>17592679
I think it'd be creepy if he went after only girls my age. Most women he's dated have been coworkers of his or a mutual friend.
Also, I don't think there are literally only 16 personalities, but I do think it helps understand your personality. His fits him very well and so does mine. I also know it is in degrees, not 100% accurate.

>>17592688
Where did you meet your boyfriend?

quit dating that mean old man you stupid bitch

>>17592699
Dating site. Most of his exes are shitty though. Not all though. Same case as me.

>>17592711
i'm interested in seeing this butt now

5'5'' and 110lb,I can't imagine cellulite on an ass that small

just take a pic for god's sake,I honestly think you're making shit up at this point

>>17592716
What will it take for you fucking retards to understand how cellulite works. Google exists god damn.

>>17592716
>in a monogamous relationship
>anons calling me a slut for sending nudes to my boyfriend
>anons going on about how my nudes will be posted to websites by my boyfriend
>then tell me to upload my nudes for countless complete strangers over something I'm SELF CONCIOUS OF
logic. Literally Google "skinny/thin woman cellulite"
If I were going to upload them, it'd be to /fit/

OP, just dump him. You two aren't fit for each other at all, and your feelings are only going to continue to be hurt by this guy as a result of his bluntness/immaturity and your sensitivity/naivete.

>>17592578
That wasn't where I was going with that point. Right now, you describe yourself as "barely legal" (even though you seem to bend the truth), yet you have already had exes in the past that had already been through marriage and divorce.

The other poster thought you had sexual fantasies about father figures, and I was just trying to say, "no duh!" because of the evidence.

>>17592750
One ex whose been through marriage and divorce whom I lost my virginity to, which ended a few months ago.
I know my boyfriend is sort of a father figure haha. I know he cares. Just sometimes his actions don't reflect it.

>>17592750
Wait, how do I bend the truth?

>>17591536
>bf 20 years older than me
and yet immature as fuck.

that's where you went wrong. the ideal age for a bf is 2 to 10 years older than you, 5ish best.

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>>17591590
>Barely legal. I'm in my first year of college. He's in his late 30's
The whole cellulite exchange sounded pretty fucky on it's own, but this was the icing on the cake.

I'd seriously suggest just dropping him and talking to a therapist to address your insecurity issues. I'd bet money he's with you in large part because he knows he can get away with this shit between the age gap and your brain problems.

>>17592801
I've talked to therapists, but it was at a point where they were telling me shit I already knew.

Yeah, part of me is afraid of that too but how the fuck can I tell if he's really using me like that or actually wants a relationship with me?

>>17592815
>how the fuck can I tell if he's really using me like that or actually wants a relationship with me?
A decent start would be to ask yourself if he seems to actually give a shit when you bring up your fears and concerns.

You brought up some concerns about your ass, and he starts calling you cellulite ass all day. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

>>17592815
>but how the fuck can I tell if he's really using me like that or actually wants a relationship with me?
If you want an old man, at least find one that is rich.
Just saying, everybody wants college-age girls, and this guy isn't treating you right.

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>>17592823
He wasn't calling me cellulite ass all day haha. Here's the context.
Thank you for your input.

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>>17592916
Also, I wanted to know why it was bad to him.

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>>17592916
More context.

>>17592936
You just can't understand.

On a more serious note, have you considered hitting /fit/? Squats kill cellulite.

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>>17592660

Her chompers, she uses them to eat... BABIES!

>>17592950
Bur what can't I understand?!
And yes, as I previously said I'm thinking of enrolling in a gym when I can.
But people have told me I might burn off all the fat and end up just having a muscular butt.
And a lot of research shows sometimes it doesn't go away from exercise. Sometimes that's just how your fat deposits and nothing can change it unless you get rid of ALL the fat, which I don't want.

>>17592954
>But people have told me I might burn off all the fat and end up just having a muscular butt.
>And a lot of research shows sometimes it doesn't go away from exercise. Sometimes that's just how your fat deposits and nothing can change it unless you get rid of ALL the fat, which I don't want.
You're overthinking it. It won't happen overnight. Follow the /fit/ guidelines (actually lift heavy weights, count your calories, do hiit cardio - ever seen a sprinter with cellulite?), and you'll do fine, worst case you'll get a marked improvement.

>what can't I understand?!
That you were asking him exactly for the answer you wanted, and nothing else would have sufficed.
Protip: you do that, then you end up fighting with people. or hanging around spineless people.

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>>17591536
>>17592622
>>17592916
>>17592930
>>17592936

HO-LEE-FOOK, post a goddamn picture, if your so damn worried, or don't, idc either way, it sounds like a lot of whining after a while, dump the guy is my advice. You make it sound like you have a finely shaped small ass that resembles the cratered wasteland of the moon that got smashed with a thousand more asteroids.

It can't be THAT bad, and drop the old fart. Most butts are beautiful, regardless of some "cellulite".

If he's making fun of you, probably drop him, he sounds manipulative, and it sounds like a similar situation with my younger sister, older guy kept bitching about some features of her and she dumped him. Who knows if the guy is really a psycho too. Be wary and safe is all I can say.

>>17592974
Thanks. I'll hit up /fit/ for advice then.

But I wanted him to answer my questions without a specific answer, which he wouldn't.

>>17591536
Sounds like he was vague about the cellulite ass picture being sent. Sounds like he's being a little bitch since you sent it to him, like he's taking it way too seriously, and then ironically condemning you for taking the topic too seriously.

Also sounds like you're being hyper sensitive, among other things. I'm not even sure what the issue is desu, it just seems like you flipped out over having cellulite on your ass and got butthurt when he tried to make light of the situation.

>>17592986
You wanted him to tell you that cellulite looked good.
If you get a man to that level of giving up on reality, you've nagged him into submission, in the morning he'll either leave his balls behind or leave you.

>>17592987
Read screenshots. He wasn't making light out of the situation. I wanted to show him my cellulite, and he didn't want to see, which I don't understand why.
I don't understand why someinr would tell you they love your body the way it is then say they don't want to see pics of it. No one has explained that to me, which I've asked an explanation for several times. I just don't get it.

Also, yes, I'm sensitive, I've edtablished this lol

>>17591614
nice one mr psychologist

also I don't understand how "daddy problems" could be her fault..

>>17592994
No. I wanted him to be okay with it. But it made me feel like he wasn't because despite saying he was, he didn't want to see it.
I've been very cautious with poses and lighting ao he won't see the cellulite. And when I offer an honest pic of what it actually looks like, why doesn't he want to see it?

>>17592916
>>17592930
>>17592936
Jesus man, you just didn't want to stop talking about the cellulite on your ass and how much he doesn't like it, did you?

He's making this worse though. He's taking offense to your neuroticism. He's even mocking you, not that I think you noticed, lol.

Break up

>>17593003
And why does he say I've ruined "something he likes" (my butt) for him?

>>17593004
How is he mocking me...?

>>17592995
He just didn't want to focus on the cellulite issue and make you self-conscious, which ironically made you 10x more self-conscious. You're both dumb, dumb people

>>17593010
That next to last message. See how he dumbed it wayy down? That's how he thinks of you, that's his method of communicating with what he sees as an idiot. Wake up.

>>17593003
Because you didn't make it about you being sexy and sending an ass pic, you made it about the cellulite.

Of course he likes your ass, it's yours. And of course he doesn't like cellulite, it's gross.
He was trying not to associate the two, and maybe telling you, in a sensitive way, that you need to lose some weight (or maybe not, I'm going out on a limb on this), definitely NOT to tell you that cellulite looks good.

>>17593003
He's not going to be okay with it. He's never going to get over it. The reason he's with a dumb teenager is because he wants a piece of ass and older women aren't gonna put up with this shit. DUMP HIM.

>>17591536

Why are you dating your dad?

>>17593014
Maybe. I don't think that was it though? I think he would have been sweeter about it if he didn't want me to send it to prevent me from beinf self conscious.

>>17593021
How is that him dumbing it down?

>>17593024
It was after I sent him sexy ass pics while he was going to work.
Also, read my other posts. I'm 5"5, 110 lbs max, I don't think he wants me to lose weight. He tells me he loves how thin I am. lol
Maybe, but he's going to see it eventually. It feels like I put so much effort into hiding something when I send a butt pic because I have to conceal the cellulite via angles/lighting which he thinks is "perfect". But I don't want something that isn't me to be regarded to as "perfect". I wanted to show him how it actually looks. Does that make sense?

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>>17593031

THIS POST, SO TRUE!

>>17593031
But like I said, we aren't having sex and I told him we won't be for a long time. He could get nudes from much less emotional, crazy-ish girls. Why would he bother if he weren't invested?

>>17593042

Not that anon, but, it is, he is mocking you.

>Fem-anon = cellulite

He is calling you cellulite, you are "the cellulite."

>>17593050
Oh. Is he calling me his "cellulite" then...? Like he doesn't want me or something?

>>17593048
Because he knows you're gonna take his shitty behavior. He is gonna step all over you throughout your relationship and you're going to feel like shit. Girl, open your eyes. You're gonna waste your youth pining over this man-child jackass who isn't gonna be happy unless you're his perfect, virgin waifu.

>>17593059
He knows I'm not a virgin though and is okay with it.
Does everyone seriously really think he's that bad? This might be the worst fight we had. Normally he shuts down and doesn't respond at all.

>>17593042
>I'm 5"5, 110 lbs max
And have cellulite. Skinnyfat to the max, the solution, working out, is even harder to approach to an average girl.

What makes sense is that what you think as objectively correcting a mistake, he sees as busting his balls. You have quite a big communication gap, that's expected with a generation of age difference.

>>17593066
>Normally he shuts down and doesn't respond at all.
Do you even know how to talk to this man and get a constructive answer out of him?

>>17593031
>>17593043
You two need to go the fuck back to /r/relationships.
>>17593048
Contrary to what these legbeards would have you believe, male behavior just can't be neatly distilled to, "How is this going to get him more sex and more extreme kinds of sex?" and "Since he must be up to /something/, let's discuss what he's up to." have you ever tried assuming good faith?

>>17593056

>Oh. Is he calling me his "cellulite" then...?

No, not HIS cellulite, or that you are "his cellulite" he is equating YOU to being the "cellulite", he is mocking you, it could almost be viewed as a fat-mock or joke. It does not come off as a kind mock or joke either. If he knows how much it bothers you, then why mock you about it, that's rather childish move.

>Like he doesn't want me or something?

Oh he WANTS you for reasons you are probably denying to yourself.

>>17593066

>Normally he shuts down and doesn't respond at all.

That's a BAD sign, he doesn't like to deal upfront about the situation and will let it fester or repress it. Or be "passive aggressive" about it.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive_behavior

>"pervasive pattern of negativistic attitudes and passive resistance to demands for adequate performance in social and occupational situations."

Communication does not sound like a term he is familiar with. If he just "shuts down" that is a BAD sign. He doesn't like to deal with his issues or others issues. And judging from his previous relationships and his age, that is a funky weird combination.

He sounds manipulative asf, and you don't maybe realize it, a very indirect manipulative type.

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>>17593056

Oh my god you are dense as fuck. He's saying that you have turned the cellulite into such a big deal that its all he sees in you now. You have become nothing to him but that crazy girl obsessed with cellulite.

Just drop the subject and stop pressing him. It wasn't a big deal to him before YOU made it a big deal.

After this relationship inevitably fails, learn from this experience and don't be such a crazy person next time.

>>17593068
I'm not skinnyfat lol. Everything about my body is "tight" except for my butt. As I've said countless times, how your body deposits fat is genetic. Cellulite is how your body deposits fat. So it can be genetic for some, which it is for me. And I've already said I want to work on it.

I think you're right about the busting his balls part too...I try very hard to be fair and see his side too but he doesn't try to see my side at all normally. And I have to beg an apology out of him.

The other night we argued because I slammed my vagina into a corner (I'm very clutzy lol) and I was in a LOT of pain. He seemed annoyed and didn't really ask if I was ok.
I started pouting basically and asked why he didn't care. He asked if I shattered a bone, I said no. Then he asked if I ruptured my clit, and I said no. Then he said I'd be fine, and I said it feels like it bruised, and he said "Then you have a bruise." Then I started crying and got upset because 1) I cry very easily because I'm sensitive and 2) it felt like he didn't give a shit. It might be because he's a nurse and knows of course I'm not dying, but it sucked he didn't even seem to care...then he gets mad because he does care about me. But like I've said in previous posts, that's how we both are.

>>17593075
Sometimes I don't think so. I wear my heart on my sleeve with him and tell him how I'm feeling always. I don't get the same thing back.

>>17593086
I know he has passive aggressive behavior when we argue, like saying "Thanks" sarcastically, but I do the same thing sometimes.
I just think he's not good at expressing his feelings and is bad with feelings in general. You know how some men are like that because they're told "Emotions are for girls!", I'm starting to think that's what happened to him.

>>17593089
Funny pic anon, but I'm not obese. Again, I'm 110 lbs and 5"5.

I'm not OBSESSED, last night was literally the first time I've brought it up. So how can he chalk me up to be that from this one experience?

>>17593086
Oh, also,
>he doesn't like to deal upfront about the situation and will let it fester or repress it.
This is pretty much true. I try to prevent that from happening by talking about stuff, but it usually doesn't work in my favor.

>>17593114
>>17593126
show us your butt.

Take a new picture, scrub the exif data, your personal information is safe, as you've revealed no personal info.

This is highly important to the conversation and will sate a lot of curiosity (and maybe get you offers to replace oldy mcimmaturepants)

>>17593139
I know people already think I'm stupid enough. But what's exif data and how do I scrub it?

>>17593152
Screenshot the picture and post that so we don't get your gps location.

>>17593114

>I'm not obsessed
>literally won't stop bothering boyfriend about it even after he makes it clear he doesn't want to talk about it

What, did you want him to lie to you and say, 'yes dear, your cottage cheese cheeks are very sexy, please send me pictures'

You're delusional and I don't believe you're only 110, especially since you're so determined to blame your nasty ass on the laughable excuse that is 'muh genetics'

>>17593158
I swear haha. I wear size 1 jeans, size s shirts, just my butt is really saggy/flat/cellulitey.
And the whole point is I think he's lying to me! I want honesty, and hes saying he thinks I'm perfect with cellulite but doesn't want to see it.

>>17593157
How does that work? I'll post one safely so people can understand where I'm coming from, I don't want to be fishing for compliments because if I wanted that, I'd post in a camwhore thread on /soc/. But I do want to understand what I'm doing first.

>>17592040
>Having borderline personality disorder isn't being retarded.
You're right.
After all, retarded people can have stable relationships, happy lives, and make good decisions about their future.

>>17593185
I'm a size 5-6, sometimes 7 or even 8 depending on what store I shop at. I don't have that issue, and I'm 5'7" 130lb. When I was 145 a year ago there wasn't cellulite.

This is anonymous, sweetie. You don't need to fib about weight. Just tell us you had a lot of weight you lost.

>>17593185

He WAS honest with you and you were not content with his answer. He said he liked your ass and you REFUSED to accept his compliment, and instead turned it all around again to your cellulite. He was trying to politely ignore it but you kept bringing it up because you wanted a different answer. You're playing stupid mind games and hoping he'll read your mind and tell you what you want to hear, while you ignore anything he says about the subject. He tried to move on but you were not satisfied.

Now you are cellulite, since thats all you seem to care about.

Next time a man gives you an answer, accept it and stop fishing for compliments like a stupid teenage girl.

>>17593185
Here, do this:
>Take a picture of your butt
>upload picture of your butt to your computer
>screenshot the picture
>paste the picture in paint (hit ctrl+v)
>save the screenshot
>post that picture, rather than the original one you took with your phone

Or just take the goddamn picture and upload it. Seriously, nobody is going to stalk you, and it'll just be a snapshot of your latitude and longitude coordinates anyway. Way too vague of information to actually know who you are.

>>17593210
Pretty sure retarded people exercise poor judgement and fail to accurately see how present decisions will affect the future, but nice try faggot

OP,
Promise me baby gurl that you'll follow all my advice, okay?
Here's what you do
Continue to post personal details about yourself in this thread.
Continue to solicit advice.
When someone tells you to "dump him" or "break up", instantly mention something about him that you like...something you failed to mention before. If they mention self-improvement, say something like "I'll do that later...what do I do NOW!?"
This will feed into your toxic need for attention by getting people to reply to you while you never take any advice.

lol okay? lol

>>17593233
Go work with truly BPD people for a year, dumbass. A mildly MR person who gets a weekly visit from a social worker and quarterly financial planning help can live a pretty normal life.
BPD clients do things like call 911 fifty times in one week, abandon a child at a mall to get 'even' with a partner, and call their psychiatrist's professional certification board to complain about made up bullshit. A person who has BPD for life, and not as a 'teenage phase', is honestly 'retarded' in every important sense of life functioning.

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>>17593211
I'm not lying. I've always been thin. Just because somethinf doesn't apply to you doesn't mean it can't apply to other people. It's like saying as a rule of thumb this ingredient causes a breakout. No, everyone's body is different. Also, covered birth mark

>>17593221
Also I didn't even show the beginning of the conversation with him, so I'm not sure as to why you're so passionate about what happened like it's a fact.

Here's what happened:
He complimented my butt
I said thank you, you know how self conscious I am of its size (since it's small and unshapely and a lot of people tend to go for big round butts)
He told me how he wants to smack it etc etc
I asked if that'd still be true if I had cellulite
He said yes, it's perfect.
Then I asked if I could send a pic where my cellulite showed.
He said "no thanks."
I said "See? You don't like the cellulite. "
He said "Jesus."
Then I told him how him saying he'd still like it then saying no makes me feel bad
Then he said he doesn't understand why I want him to focus on it
And then I said because I'm self conscious of it
Then he said to show me and said "Don't really" the next second.

>>17593266
I don't do those things. Just throwing out there.

>>17593287
>I asked if that'd still be true if I had cellulite
>He said yes, it's perfect.

Wtf op. He said it was OK, why are you weeping about your butt? I also think it looks fine and would smack and smash/10

is this shit real?

>>17593296
Omg. It's because he doesn't want to see those pics I just showed you! He says it's perfect, but he wants me to continue sending him pics where you can't see the cellulite.
I keep having to repeat myself because people won't read my posts ITT

>>17593266
You're saying retarded people are capable of coming to a decision that will benefit them in the future. Point of fact, retarded people can't plan ahead like that. They're physically incapable. It's like asking someone with cerebral paulsy to run a mile or do a double spin in an ice rink. Their brains lack the functionality to achieve such feats. Your mildly mentally retarded person doesn't really have a choice but to make a choice that's in line with what society would deem acceptable since they cannot weigh decisions and are told what to do by people who aren't retarded. Don't be retarded.

Also a lot of MR people aren't happy at all. Especially the mildly retarded ones, because they're cognizant of the fact that they're dumb and hold less value than normal people in a biological perspective. Some might be so retarded that they don't know what's going on, but that's not really the same as happiness.

I never argued that BPD people aren't assholes. I've never dealt with one or knew one, that I know of anyway. But retardation is the measure of mental acuity, not how well someone functions. I get your point though.

>>17593287

>Then I asked if I could send a pic where my cellulite showed.
>He said "no thanks."
>I said "See? You don't like the cellulite. "

This right here. You were BAITING him. If you can't see this, you are so far up your own cottage cheese ass.

Instead of trying to depreciate yourself and fish for compliments, just send him a picture of your ass. Jesus you're either naive or stupid.

>>17593287
Your ass doesn't even have cellulite. it's actually pretty nice. every normal non-photoshopped girl's ass looks like that, or usually worse even. this is just some self-conscious, unintentionally made up bullshit perpetrated by an insecure woman. everybody go home

>>17593301
>Because people disagree with me, it means they don't understand because they didn't read the thread. If I hold onto my narrative tightly enough, it will become objective fact.
Come on now.

>>17593301
Well I can see the cellulite from >>17593287 too and I'd say it's OK as well. Looks cute and nice desu. The cellulite isn't that bad at all. Seriously wtf op are you spreading spaghetti all over on purpose?

You're making a big deal out of thin air, you're the one making these rollercoasters. Post the ones that show the cellulite here pls.

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>>17593287

There is nothing wrong with your butt, as I suspected.

Honestly, you sound a little unstable, insecure and needy and becoming weirdly clingy and attached to this guy, like you value his opinion and ideas of you more than anything in the world. He sounds funky and weird as hell too. You sending him a butt pic. even though you said you didn't want to have sex yet is really showing some repressed stuff coming out.

The whole situation gives me a bad feeling in my gut, like something is really off here, details that you haven't discussed about yourself or him, or the fact that he seems shady asf to me or that you can't see things straight properly.

Honestly, it looks fine, I think your blowing this up a little more than you should be.

But, something doesn't sit right with me with this whole situation you are describing, it makes me extremely wary and untrustworthy of him. And it sounds like you really like him ALOT, which from what you posted, he doesn't sound like Grade-A material to be falling so head over heels about.

>>17593321
I have to agree with this, op do yourself a favor and stay away from that guy... Not that you'd listen to what we have to say.

>>17593309
Lumps/bumps /ripples of fat is literally cellulite.

>>17593307
But why would he say no to begin with if he thinks it's "perfect"?

>>17593321
You're pretty accurate. I know I'm emotionally unstable, this isn't news. I know I like him A LOT and I know his opinion means so much to me. Also the reason we won't have sex, as I've already said (lul) is that I have PTSD from being raped when I was 15 and when my genitals are touched it feels like the most intense pain I've ever experienced. I literally cannot even describe how bad it hurts, it sends me bawling from sheer pain. I also start sobbing when I orgasm sometimes.
Maybe I am blowing it up, I already sent a text apologizing hours ago. I know I have a fragile self esteem.
But I can't express either how happy he makes me. It's really hard for someone to make me laugh, and when I'm with him we're always smiling and laughing. I know I should be stable before entering a relationship, and I thought I was stable enough, but this relationship pulls a lot of emotions out of me.
I care for him more strongly than I've ever cared about anyone else.

>>17593301
>ones where you can't see the cellulite
Like when you're facing the other way?
Is he trying to get pics of your cunt?

>>17593349
You're infuriating. You must be pretty good looking to be put up with this much. The top photo, the one where you're not tensing your ass, has no lumps/bumps/ripples at all. The second one where you are tensing your ass has some of that, but it's because you're tensing your fucking ass. JESUS

>>17593332
I'm sorry for making you guys do loopy loops to keep up with me, I really appreciate all of it. Despite being called retarded over and over, lol.
But...can someone compose a list of why I should break up with him? Just because all the opinions on here are so jumbled.
Maybe I just have really strong rose colored glasses.

>>17593287
I asked for the pic earlier in the thread and you have a nice butt.another anon said it,but let me reiterate, you're anonymous here. We're only trying to give you truthful advice. Sometimes that means being blunt.

Here's my advice, he's old and you're young. Guys like him go after girls like you because you're young, inexperienced with relationships and borderline stupid.

Full grown women won't put up with his childish behavior because they want a man, lover, and partner. They don't want to have a child to fill that position.

Emotionally, you're both children with your own issues and luckily for you, you are in a position that you can get out of.you're still young but he's only going to get older

At this point it's more than just about your butt.

>>17593360

Reason why you should leave him:

>You are young and stupid
>You are not mature enough for a serious relationship
>You are not stable enough for a serious relationship
>He is 20 goddamn years older than you

>>17593360
1) He's controlling, wants to control what you say and send to him.
2) He acts like a bitch/autist. cellulite=bad. you=cellulite...what the fuck?
3) He is much older than you but not more mature.
4) He shuts down during fights. Classic tactic of emotionally manipulative people.

I'm sure other anons can add more

>>17593360
Because you have a cottage cheese ass and he's absolutely revolted by it

>genetic

OFCOURSE it is genetic, my little stupid american girl
Is not your immobile lifestyle, is not your passion for food. There is your genetic, exactly

>>17591536
>>INFP gf (me)
>>ISTP bf
Every time i see someone describe themselves/others with a briggs-meyers type i think "hmmm, this is gonna be good"
This post didn't disappoint.

Seriously, number one, relax.
Life lesson: most men are generally not very sensitive, and you're not attracted to the ones that are. So start getting used to this treatment.
He's going to misunderstand your emotional state. Frequently. And he'll often do the wrong thing to comfort you.
This is something that many woman in long-term relationships have to deal with, and you're no exception.

>>17592542
>I've tried relationships with men in their 20s a LOT, and they usually were too emotional for me
So what exactly is the problem? It sounds like this is exactly what you were looking for, and you found it.
Are you feeling like the grass might not actually be greener on this side, or what?

>>17593287
You are 100% fine.
He said that because he didn't want to feed your ridiculous complex.
And you ignored that, and kept going with that shit
Next time, don't take it so far.
>I want him to focus on it
>because I'm self conscious of it
Exactly the opposite of the right approach. He's right to refuse to get involved in your self-flagellation.
He doesn't need to start focusing on it, YOU need to STOP doing it.

>>17593349
>>17593321
(Me here)

Well then, I think I maybe able to help since I've been in a similar situation. I was actually molested as a child by a baby sitter. What it sounds like is you need some help, and you are clinging to this guy out of unhealthy reasons or needs. The BEST option would be to stay away from him at this time and split. He can and WILL take ADVANTAGE of you. I've actually had similar situations where I become very tense and stressful when it comes to sexuality with women that I just want to "escape" from the situation. I'm not a therapist, just being an arm chair doctor, but I would highly suggest that you stay AWAY and seek help. There is no shame in needing help, there is power in it.

How you describe him, sounds like a really unhealthy relationship. How clingy and needy you are to him puts him in a massive power position, where you have less of it and he knows already that you are insecure to the point you will do anything for him, which maybe what is manifesting itself partially towards your feelings, emotions and relationship towards him. You NEED to take a lot of steps back and EVALUATE a lot of things that are going on. He will take advantage of you if you give him the chance, I can guarantee that with an older guy and a younger gal. Because most guys don't get the opportunity and will pounce on it. You sound very sweet and innocent and (excuse me) you seem very attractive just from one butt shot (pardon me).

I would really consider evaluating yourself and having a support group to help you see what is going on here. Either with a family member or friend or both.

The guy, I don't like him, I don't like how he has been described or his past, and him wanting more nude pics is very unsettling.

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>>17593359
My issue is also how flat it is, but I do think I have bits without tensing.

>>17593373
>>17593378
>>17593382
Thank you for the advice. I don't think the age is enough by its own though, but thank you for pointing these things out. I'll think on it some more.

>>17593391
This is what I thought. I know he doesn't understand me sometimes, but I care about him a lot and I think he cares about me a lot since we can't have sex and all the B.S. I know I put him through. I know I can be too emotional, but he tells me often (when we aren't arguing) that he thinks my sensitivity is sweet because I care a lot.
I tell him every time he leaves that I hope he drives safe, I hope he sleeps well, I hope he has good dreams, I hope his dog doesn't wake him up, I hope wprk runs smoothly, I hope nothing bad happens to amy patients, I hope he doesn't have to fill out a lot of paperwork, I hope lots of people are working so he isn't stressed out...And it always makes him smile and I think it makes his day. I'm ok with being the one who cares more, just sometimes I want him to try to be more open minded to why I'm upset.
Does anyone have advice to help me not harp or nag or have a melt down when I bring up something I'm upset about?

>>17593427
I literally see nothing

>>17593360

>You have been sexually violated in the past and it seems to be putting you in unhealthy relationships with potentially dangerous or manipulative individuals.

>He is 15 years older and is asking for nude pics. after you specifically told him no sex, he is already prodding and attempting to cross boundaries that you have set up to feel safe, which as an older individual, he should respect and understand even more so, but does not.

>He has not had 1 successful relationship that ended well I can assume.

>He shut down at any kind of real direct communication or confrontation, which shows that he, himself has issues, which are most likely not the most easily dealt with and can be dangerous.

>You should not have to engage him emotionally or communicativly to get him to open up to you, it's not your job to socially be his muse, or to fix him, or any other function or form to please him.

>The whole thing makes me uneasy, something is off, and it's bad.

>>17593420
I have tried therapy. They just tell me eventually it won't be so bad.

And I don't think he's "wanting more nude pics". He doesn't really ask for them; I send them without him asking. If I tell him I'm going to masturbate, he'll ask for pics but that doesn't bother me. If I already sent a few, sometimes he asks for something specific, but I have no problem that either. If I don't want to, I say no and he doesn't really care. I usually don't send him pics whenI masturbate because it takes a lot of concentration for me to orgasm.

I really don't want to believe that EVERY older man is going be manipulative of a younger woman. I think that there are some who actually may genuinely care. Maybe it's not my boyfriend, but I don't think that's a definite statement.

I don't really have any close friends right now. My two best friends both went boy crazy years ago and now I'm sort of alone. We only talk when it conveniences one of us, or else I get cancelled plans or excuses or something else. Maybe that's also why I'm so clingy with him. I'm trying to make friends at college and he's very supportive of that.
I'm also not very close with my family.

>>17593427
I think other anons have clearly stated why you should drop the guy, so I'll comment on your pic instead: your butt looks nice, even with the cellulite which to be honest it isn't bad at all. Op, you're quite insecure but if you were my girl I'd reassure you that your got a fine and cute ass ;-)

>I tell him every time he leaves that I hope he drives safe, I hope he sleeps well, I hope he has good dreams, I hope his dog doesn't wake him up, I hope wprk runs smoothly, I hope nothing bad happens to amy patients, I hope he doesn't have to fill out a lot of paperwork, I hope lots of people are working so he isn't stressed out...

Holy shit op make it short for your next bf: take care.

>>17593452
Read >>17593462 what I said about nude pics. He doesn't ask for them and he doesn't violate boundaries. I initiated doing dirty stuff with him. I told him it'll be a long time until we have sex and he literally just said "Okay. I'm fine with that." He's never crossed lines. He'd be crossing lines if he slid his hand down my pants while we were kissing or something.

He's had a 5 year long relationship with a girl whom he bought a house with that he currently lives in. He ended it because she wasn't progressing in life (worked at Publix for years and years and wouldnt pursue her dream of photography, which she did after they broke up and she thanked him for) and she made financial decisions without consulting him (she gave large sums of money to manipulative family members). He told me they aren't particularly still friends, but they're on good terms and she's friends with his mom and sister. She also let him have the house despite her name being on it and her being able to make him sell it. That's a good ending if you ask me.

And yes, he probably has issues, but as you can tell I have a TON of issues. He's addressed it and claims he wants to work on it, which he kinda sorta has by being more vocal during the argument.
And you're right, I shouldn't have to force him to open up.

>>17593466
I don't tell him ALL of that. Only the ones that apply, which is around 3 at a time.

You should delete your photos bc you failed on scrubing those EXIF data, it's kinda dangerous

>>17593502
4chan deletes all exif data faglord

>insane girl child tries to make a relationship with an insane guy
>"Wtf Y isn't diz relationship naught wurkin :("

Kids these days. Try to get sane again, and then start a relationship with another sane person

>>17593518
How is he insane

>>17593516
Nope

>>17593524

It's pretty obvious.

You two are not compatible. Stop trying to fit a shampoo bottle into a keyhole, it's not going to work

>>17593524
>>17593095
>The other night we argued
>Then I started crying and got upset
>he didn't even seem to care
>>17593066
>Normally he shuts down and doesn't respond at all.
>>17592936
>*mocks you in conversation and talks down to you*

Even if you hadn't said anything about the age gap, if you had come in here saying "my boyfriend and I are in this argument about cellulite on my ass, etc" these situations make me think he's unhealthy for you and you're not in a safe relationship.

>>17593543
Neither pics are direct via camera though. I did the screenshot thing.

Never wondered why your "bf" doesnt care not having sex with you ?
It just because he fucks another slut. That's why he calls you cellulite-ass, he doesnt care if you stay or leave him.
I know it because I'm in the same configuration with a low self-esteem girl. What's nice is they never leave even if I become impossible to live with because I am their fucking dope.

>>17593557
>Sorry, my post got cut off + retyping
On top of that you have a power imbalance, issues with communication, and personal problems that have you placing your complete faith in this man's opinions. He is aware of all of this and knows how to manipulate a naive, insecure girl like you. Like, you're obviously going to do whatever you want when this thread dies but all we're saying is this isn't a healthy relationship and if you're going to stay in it you're just going to end up more damaged than before.

>>17591536
stop dating him

>the thread is still alive
lol

OP pls comeback and post more of your lower body
upper is ok too

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>>17594129

This is why we can't have nice things.

>>17594167
shooo shooo

OP if this is your elaborate idea of making anons on 4chan cum to your post I think you have done it xDD

Oh, hi Francis