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>decide to do no contact with a girl I was fucking for a month after she gets really distant and weird
>she started playing weird mind games
>don't text her for a week
>she texts me saying "what's up"
>she says she misses hanging out with me
>says she misses sex
>says she wants to do it again soon
>I say "okay well how about tonight?"
>she says "sure! Just before 8. I have homework though"
>text her around 7:00 to confirm
>no reply
>today she texts me and says "Hey, sorry I didn't reply last night. I forgot :("

At this point I'm just sick of dealing with her. I think she's playing mind games, and she just wanted to get my attention/validation but had no intention of hooking up again. There is a piece of me that really wants to fuck her again though, but I really doubt that will ever happen since our relationship has seemed to dissolve down to weird phone-based mind games. Should I reply back and say "no problem", or just don't reply and never talk to her again?
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>>17568883
Why is this fat pig-nosed whore on so many OP pics recently? It's getting hard to remember which one was which.
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>>17568883
Why are you letting her affect you this much? Give her short responses and get on with your life. Don't cut her out completely if she's a potential fuck. Tell her "no problem," and get back to doing what you were doing.
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>>17568883
If this were anything else, like being stood up for dinner or whatever, then I would probably be justifiably pissed.
But since the only thing you lost was a potential quickie, I don't think you'll gain much if anything by bringing it up.
Part of me thinks you should wait for her to do it again, then just show up if/when she doesn't reply to confirm. Might be entertaining.
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>>17568897
I've got a bit of oneitis due to a currently isolated lifestyle. All I do is work/college so I'm not thinking straight at all.

>>17568893
She's pretty fucking hot IMO
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>>17568883
Just forget her and don't give her ANY attention anymore (unless you are a cuck).
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>>17568899
Definitely not bringing it up. I'm just deciding between saying "hey no problem" and just not replying at all.
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>>17568906
So your saying I shouldn't even reply?
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>>17568912
Yes. Trust me, no worthy girl really forgets those kind of events, she is just playing.
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If anything respond with something like "no big deal" to imply you could have it either way really and put the ball back in their court. But if you are truly tired of the game like you say you are it's better to confront/cut contact.
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>>17568924
I know she is lying. I've gotten the vibe that she is looking for a new guy, but texts me to get attention/validation when she gets lonely. Like she'll imply that we're going to fuck again, but then backs out if I set a time. When we first met, she was calling/texting me every minute to fuck.
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>>17568937
If I thought there was a chance we could fuck again, id keep playing the game. But I think she's just going to keep stringing me along until she finds somebody else, as explained here
>>17568946


Okay people who have dealt with crazy sluts. What is the best move here? I want to get another fuck out of her, but I don't want to sacrifice my dignity in the pursuit of it, and then come out empty handed. From what I've said here, what are the chances I'll get another fuck?
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Cut her off OP
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>>17568950
You could most certainly get another fuck if you turned the game on her. Kinda like what >>17568899 said at the end.

But personally I wouldn't bother. And if you're going to cut her off completely, be a man and confront her. Might as well vent the frustration to her/her phone rather than to somebody you actually care about.
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>>17568959
Wouldn't ignoring bother her more? Usually having an angry emotional confrontation turns out to make you look beta right?
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>>17568946
But of course. By trying to keep in touch with her is just making you a complete cuck. Is she really so special that you are willing to lose all dignity?
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>>17568973
alright good point. This settles it, I'm never replying to another one of her texts again.
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>>17568967
Nobody gives a fuck, this is between you and her. When did growing a pair of balls become beta? If anything, fading is uber beta and passive aggressive.
Don't listen to the /r9k/ poster, make your own judgement and decision.
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>>17569018
Giving attention whores attention is literally the definition of beta. There's no need to be rude or anything. Just no more trying to desperately get into her panties (it's perfectly OK to have a few words with her if you happen to meet).
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>>17569048
>>17569018
I'm kinda split down the middle with both of your guy's advice.

On one hand, I want to send her a text and say "ok, I don't know what you're up to here. Maybe you have a boyfriend, maybe you're sleeping with three guys, or maybe your totally alone, dunno. But it's pretty obvious that you just text me when you're feeling lonely and want attention, then pretend to set up a time to hang out to get validation. It's pretty ridiculous".

On the other hand, it seems like totally ignoring women like this bothers them more than anything. It start flaring up all kinda of insecurities and self-doubts.

Which is more effective?
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>>17569048
Of course, I don't mean he should flip his shit over the phone. Rather, he could say "I don't appreciate being treated like that, so I'd prefer it if you didn't contact me again." Short and to the point. Gives him the satisfaction of cutting her out, and the slim chance that she realizes she was being a cunt.

>>17569062
>"ok, I don't know what you're up to here. Maybe you have a boyfriend, maybe you're sleeping with three guys, or maybe your totally alone, dunno. But it's pretty obvious that you just text me when you're feeling lonely and want attention, then pretend to set up a time to hang out to get validation. It's pretty ridiculous

Thaaaaaaaaaat's pretty accusatory. If you really want an answer, then remove everything between Maybe and Validation.
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>>17569062
Just don't talk to her. Confronting her makes it seem like you are hurt which is what she wants
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>>17569155
I think I'm with you. Should I text her and say "lol ok np" or just say nothing?
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>>17569173
If you go with his idea then I'd say don't even bother responding.
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>>17569219
Okay thanks. Yeah I think she's the type of woman who likes confrontation, and she is probably trying to get a rise out of me... For whatever fucked up reason.

This is a 20 year old woman who goes to counciling for depression, hates her parents, and openly admits she likes getting attention. She's also extremely hot (big tits/ass). So yeah, it all adds up.
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>>17569237
>depression, hates her parents, and openly admits she likes getting attention
Oh you shoulda said that shit earlier. That's like the trifecta.
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>>17569155
>>17569173
>Just don't talk to her.

Yeah, do this and don't follow the other guy's advice

Make it seem as if you don't give a fuck and just continue doing other things. If you start getting all whiny about how she isn't responding, she's just going to know that she can fuck with your emotions easily

Be indifferent and just stop caring. If she likes you, then she'll make it easy for you and try to get with you. If she flakes, then just put your attention elsewhere. No need to be confrontational
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>>17569241
The trifecta for what?

>>17569242
I actually don't like her that much at this point, I just really really like having sex with her. Because she is so crazy and messed up, she lets me cum on her face and do anything I want. But she's been rejecting my advances lately so idk.
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Im going through the same shit. DO NOT CONTACT HER AT ALL. Every time you say anything to her you are rewarding her and giving her the attention she wants and letting her know that its okay to disrespect you. once she gets what she wants from you she is done with you. Ignore her but don't try to call her out you will look like a butt hurt little bitch. do not contact her
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>>17568883
FUCK HER RIGHT IN THE PUSSY (without consent)
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>>17569252
>she lets me cum on her face and do anything I want.

Yeah, might be hard to give that up, but it's just sex. You can get it from every girl, and there are more attractive chicks out there.

What's more important is your time, and this girl seems to be wasting it. If she flakes and is giving you a hard time, then you need to stop focusing on her. If she truly misses you and wants to get together, again, she will make it easy. But she doesn't seem to be doing that

Just start walking in the other direction. She'll either pull you back or go with a Chad.

I think she gave you the whole "I miss U!" trip to pull you back in and to encourage you to start giving her more attention, even though she may not genuinely miss you. Move on, she'll get with you if she wants, but it should not matter to you too heavily
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>>17569252
>she lets me cum on her face and do anything I want.
and now you're paying for the side effects nothing is free in this world brother

either move on and get a mental stable gf or keep the unreliable sex of emotional baggage
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>>17569275
>might be hard to give that up

No dude, it's so bad. We were planning on doing anal before she started blowing me off, and she was going to let me cum inside.
This girl is an absolute turbo slut, she watches porn so she knows what guys want. I'm having a hard time giving up, but I know I need to because she hasn't slept with me the last like 2-3 attempts I've made.

>>17569265
Okay. I have not initiated contact with her in about 2 weeks, but she's initiated contact like 4 times. I am completely straight forward and just say "ok let's meet up". Obviously this isn't working.

I guess I need to switch over to not even replying anymore, and if she doesn't throw me the pussy then I guess that's that.
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>>17568883
Gonna need sauce
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>>17569252
Well all three of those aspects play on each other. They're essentially all red flags and I rarely see all 3 of them.
>Depression means deeper issues
>parental hate could mean rebelliousness and moral ambiguity
>admitting she likes attention is probably also a cry for attention
I mean I don't know this chick, but it sounds like the beginning of a wonderful psych profile.
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>>17569313
>rebelliousness and ambiguity
Definitely. She is extremely liberal, believes casual sex is fine, basically anti-Christian in every way. She said she had some issue where she lost a year of her college credits, but absolutely refuses to talk about it. If I try to dig deeper, she gets jittery and angrily changes the subject. Really fuckin weird.

She also said she has gone on dates with random strangers because she needs attention so badly. And she admitted that she keeps beta orbiters around even though she knows they like her. None of them have ever slept with her though.
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>>17569321
Man I'm a liberal and I think she's just waiting for a tour to the looneybin.
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You just gotta respect yourself and just straight up stop interacting with this person. Definitely do not confront the person though that will just feed into their madness.

I had a lesbian friend that did the exact same shit to me and other people. Big surprise she was also a complete mentally ill attention whore. Don't stick your dick in crazy? Man don't even bother being friends with crazy it's not worth it.
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>she texts me saying "what's up"
>she says she misses hanging out with me
>says she misses sex
>says she wants to do it again soon

this may have been a bait. you should of let her set the date up if she was so eager to see you. when she said all this crap, you should of kept it really short, with "cool" and "oks", if it gets no where tell her you got to go, give her 5mins top. Next time she contacts keep words very short and if she interested she'll setup and time for you, DO NOT ASK HER OUT, LET HER.


>text her around 7:00 to confirm

Do not confirm dates, just go to her place or whatever.


>today she texts me and says "Hey, sorry I didn't reply last night. I forgot :("

she didn't forget shit, i think your desperation to get another peace of her ass is putting you in the orbiter category. I'm pretty sure in the beginning she was chasing you.
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>>17569388
Hmm... I did kind of suspect she was nuts when I met her. The 3rd time we hung out, she got down on her knees, started blowing me, and then started begging me to fuck her without a condom. She isn't on birth control either.

She literally started pulling my dick into her pussy. I pulled my pants up and walked out. She got really really angry and weird, but kinda got over it later on when we started using condoms.

I thought maybe she was trying to get pregnant and scam me for child support or something. She just explained that she believes the pull out method is reliable... Which I thought was nuts
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>>17569420
Hmm. So you think if I play it cool and change my tactics, I could fuck her again?

You'd say this is possible? As opposed to just calling it quits and not replying to her texts anymore?
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>>17569430

"Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association as a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive attention-seeking emotions, usually beginning in early adulthood, including inappropriately seductive behavior and an excessive need for approval."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic_personality_disorder
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>>17569447
If she wanted to fuck you then she would fuck you
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>>17569447

Well i say go for it, won't take much effort. just keep your contact short as possible until she sets something up but you should see other girls in the meantime or distract yourself from thinking of her.
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>>17569501
Well maybe if I just wait for her to set up a time, that'll work. It is possible that I'm turning her off by trying to set up a time when she contacts me. I'm just trying to crack the slut code to get more pussy, but she may also just be using me for attention and has no intention of ever fucking me again, even if I do play it cool, so I don't want to do that.
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>>17569502
Im considering this. I don't want to be a chump and lose any remaining dignity by keeping contact with her though....

it just depends if she actually has any intention of fucking me again, or is just using me for attention while she looks for somebody else.
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>>17569515

well i do mean ALWAYS let her contact you first but keep it short. If she wants to fuck she'll set something up, if she doesn't then oh well.
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This is the kind of small talk she constantly makes. What would I say to something pointless like this
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>>17569678
be a smart ass to her

say you're waiting up for people to ask you stupid questions.
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>>17569686
Dude that sounds pretty mean haha. If I had a girl say that to me id be turned off
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>>17569699
if she's playing games play them back or ignore her
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>>17569703
Huh... Yeah I would never talk to somebody like that... Maybe i just won't respond
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>>17569712


anon is right, asshole responses are good in this situation, i mean she's been flaking on you lately so whatever. That was such a stupid question she asked.
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>>17568883

I love /adv/... it's "mind games" when they do it but "running no contact" when OP does it.

This board should have a sticky that says "delete her number"
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>>17571003

What are you on about. He said she started to play he returns the favor, I don't see anyone saying OP doesn't play.
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>>17571003
Oh, I started doing no contact after she started doing these weird mind games for two weeks.

At first I couldn't figure out what the heck was going on. She got really rude/distant/didn't want to meet up, but then would randomly call me to talk or meet up. Just extreme hot/cold. I don't know if there's somebody else or whatever. So I just decided to withdraw, but she usually contacts me every time I stop talking to her.

At first we were kinda dating, but she didn't want to keep doing that. At this point, I just want some more sex.

>>17571011
I really don't know what I'm doing, I've only dated nice stable conservative girls for the most part. Never had experience with gamey type girls. I actually hate being mean to people, so I guess I'll just be distant instead
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>>17570992
If I start getting super rude, won't that make me look angry/bitter? My ex did that to me after we broke up and it like permanently turned me off.

With attention whore types, silence is more effective, right?
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Even though you're not, tell her you found someone else to fuck and that you're letting her go. Could be fun. Either way, don't bother with her anymore. She sounds like a dumdum.
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>>17571120

If OP is going to play that game, he may as well ask if she wants to be part of a MFF threesome he is planning.
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>>17571125

I doubt it'd be easy, he's already made the point that organising stuff with her is hit and miss.
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>>17571136

He's not going to get a threeway, he's going to put this basic bitch into the cold reaches of oblivion with a cavalier proposal.

You ask her, via text, and unless she gives you an enthusiastic answer in the affirmative, you let that be your last text to her.
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>>17571147

Oh my bad. I would just ditch her anyway lol
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>>17568883

just let her contact you and treat her llike an absolute stranger, keep chats very short and let her set the date up.
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>>17571228
This is what I've decided to do. If she never sets up a date, then nothing of value lost.

In the mean time, I'm going to go try and meet some new girls
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The answer is obvious op. Just turn the game on her.

You be the busy one. You make her come over. And you forget to reply out of nowhere.
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>>17572007
I'm doing that starting today. there is also a chance that she's not gaming me, but she's just straight up not that interested anymore.

Does ignoring somebody ever make them sleep with you?
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>>17569321
Well, dunno if the liberal thing makes her automatically makes her a weirdy. But, you need to get the fuck outta there because all those personality issues are definitely not worth a cream pie.
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>>17568883
>>17568897
wrong

tell her she has to make it up to you
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>>17572814

Do that if you never want to get laid again.

You need to behave as if you can just take it or leave it with this type of girl. If you're fine with it either way and don't really care if she flakes, then it starts to make HER feel silly because now it's going to start to feel like she is putting in the effort to get your attention. That'll drive her nuts because she needs to feel like you are the one who wants HER.

It's win-win anyway because girls like this are not worth the fucking time until they grow the fuck up (if that ever happens). Good for some fun and fucking but that's it - do NOT invest serious time. If she ends up getting pulled in enough to get a nice cock waxing and you'd like that, then cool. If she just wants to play games and validation then that's fine too - just respond when she comes calling and put in the minimal amount of effort while moving on with your life.
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>>17572916
OP here.

The last interaction we had was over here >>17569678


I never replied to that last text she sent me, that was last night. I'm waiting for her to text me again (if she ever does), I'm planning on not replying to any of her texts for 2 weeks, and then if she texts me again I'm just going to give a few very short answers until she explicitly tells me she wants me to come over and fuck her.

In the mean time, I am extremely busy with college and work, and I'm going to try to meet more women starting this week.
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>>17572916
But honestly, when women start playing these games, do they ever put out again?

I'm having a hard time picturing her seriously fucking me again, even though a couple days ago she said that "we should fuck again because I haven't gotten any in a while".

i'm getting the vibe that she's just trying to put out false hope to keep me chasing her so she'll get attention. The only way I can make this work again is if I starve her for attention for so long that she decides the only way she can get my attention again is by hooking me back in by having sex. Not sure if that will work because she probably has a bunch of other dudes hitting on her giving her the attention she needs.
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OP you gotta post pic of her, there's no other way of us knowing what kind of ass you are so eager to get behind. Blurr her face if u want to.
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>>17572984
I've been on 4chan since 2007. I absolutely never post photos on here because I know what happens. She looks EXTREMELY similar to the pic in my original post, except a little younger.

Believe me, if she didn't, I wouldn't be putting this much effort into this bullshit.
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>>17572984
actually after looking at this stupid slut I've been chasing, she's way hotter. Bigger tits and better face.
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>>17572947

Just don't bother playing the game. She LIVES for it and your heart isn't really in it - what makes you think that you stand a chance?

It looks like she's just chatting man, small talk, doesn't mean anything. Just respond with whatever, take the easiest path and just be honest.

"Y U awake?"

"Browsing the internet looking at funny pictures"

If you want to actually continue the conversation, then just do it man. Add a "And you? Why you up?"

If she doesn't answer, then whatever just wait until she messages you again and don't give a fuck.

That's the problem dude, you're too invested in this girl and you're not fooling anyone. I can tell from all the way over here. Skip the games and be real, that's the best chance you've got. PUA and all that BS only works when you don't give a shit about the other person.

You going somewhere that you think she might be interested in? Invite her. If she says no or skips it? Whatever, it doesn't matter since you wanted to go do that thing anyway.

She wants to chat? Go chat if you want to, don't if you don't want to. Just live your life.
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>>17573075
>the problem is you're too invested in this girl

Probably. I should probably just give up. She's probably fucking four other guys and not giving me a second thought. This whole thing is just a waste of time.
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>>17572939
>yeah man, I'm sure that by ignoring her, she'll focus even more on me instead of finding someone else to fuck!
good plan OP

women these days are so desperate, yknow?
We men get pussy simply by wearing skirts
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Just block her number and move on OP.
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>>17568893
>Why is this fat pig-nosed whore on so many OP pics recently?
You have shit taste and you should kill yourself you faggot
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>>17569447
>i think your desperation to get another peace of her ass is putting you in the orbiter category
>So you think if I play it cool and change my tactics, I could fuck her again?
Dude your desperation is fucking ugly, you need to cut off all contact IMMEDIATELY because you don't have a shred of dignity left to anon and you won't to this crazy bitch either if you keep this up much longer. JFC
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>>17573647
Lmao well thanks for the honesty. My texts really aren't that bad/cringey, I just sound like more of a basket case in this thread because I'm using it as an emotional outlet because I don't have a single person in my life that I can talk to about this. It's a secret to everybody who I know.

I do think this situation has decimated by self esteem. Before I met this woman, I was perfectly happy, confident and content. After a couple months of dating/breaking up/being FWB/playing hot and cold I feel like I'm in the fucking twilight zone.
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>>17573679


Is it possible that you caught feels ?
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>>17573693
Yes, I 100% caught feels. I thought I could get over it and just have sex but I don't think it worked.

Before I dated her, I was just working and going to college every single day. Not a bad life, but it's just been really hard, stressful and lonely for like 4 years straight. Ive dated a few girls, but I didn't really like any of them.

Then I met this girl, and I felt like I was in high school again. Like i was actually excited about women, dating, and romance for the first time in 8 years. i had actually forgotten what it felt like, to actually be kind of happy about something instead of just obsessing over money/bills/family problems/work/college.

I knew she was going to be trouble though. So many red flags. Of course it fizzled down to her blowing me off like I'm nothing.
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