Does no fap actually work or is it just a meme?

>>17568677
Entirely meme

No fap is a placebo effect.

>>17568677
The only thing no fap helps is fighting acne. Well, in some cases having a fuckload of repressed testosterone will make you more determined to get a fucking girl, but that depends on the person.

It's doesn't have no effects, it just doesn't turn you into a super saiyan like everyone says it does. Most people don't understand the purpose of it (or don't want to because they don't want to feel like the hundreds of dollars they've spent on fleshlights was a waste). It's been a practice since Ancient Grecian times and probably even longer. It's about learning to control your impulses and redirecting that time and energy elsewhere. It's more a disciplinary philosophy than a magic trick to get girls. PornFree on the other hand is not placebo and porn is actually quite mentally damaging.

So I'd suggest you to tug maybe once a day using only your imagination. No screens, no audio, no pictures. Then start slowly cutting that down and use the time and energy you would have spent tugging reading some books or learning a language.

I won't say good luck because there's no luck involved, only the strength of your own willpower.

In my experience it only makes you hornier. Yeah there's that thing with self-control, but you can do that with anything, preferably something that's not a biological need. You'd do better if you tried to rid yourself of a harmful habit or try to create a healthy one.

>>17568710
>using only your imagination
What if my imagination is more fucked up than porn? The main reason I don't fap to porn too often anymore is because I can't find anything that fully satisfies my fetishes.

And what's the difference between imagining something, watching porn, or actually living it and fucking a real woman? Like, why would it be harmful for your brain to fap to porn daily, but not have sex daily? And what if, instead of porn you'd see that live? Like every day you'd see a porn being shot. Would that affect your mind in the same way porn does, or it will have no effect?

Try it yourself. You have nothing to lose. Made my life better, and even if it just is the placebo effect, which I doubt, then something good still came of it.

>>17568710
This post is pretty much exemplary for NoFap. Some halftruths spun out into a big superiority complex.

Yeah, if you're a literal porn addict, no longer looking at porn will help you improve life. But that's simple logic. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to see that stopping smoking is good for you, either. But shit like "mentally damaging" are just useless buzzwords without some scientific underpinnings. But instead we get the whole appeal to tradition. Yeah, the same people who argued against abstinence from masturbation also did self-flagellation or other stupid crap BASED ON THE EXACT SAME IDEA.

When you're a porn addict, or a video game addict, or a social media addict, it's all working according to the same principle: Seeking out new stimuli in order to get your brain to give itself a reward for that. So yes, when you bruteforce yourself into stopping that behaviour according to some cultist mumbo-jumbo, you kick the addiction. But yeah, no fucking shit, same as when you stop smoking. But the problem is that they just assume everyone is an addict. That post assumes multiple lengthy fap sessions a day. Which goes with the ad hominem of "most people don't get it and own expensive masturbation toys".

And that's my problem with NoFap. It first assumes the worst of people, then uses us vs. them cultist shame tactics, and lifts itself up by virtue of assuming everyone is a literal addict. It's pseudo-scientific drivel. Read the actual science instead.

>>17568677
Meme, all it does is free up your time and maybe relieve acne.

>>17568749

Your weird fetishes are most likely results of consumption of porn.

Have a read

http://yourbrainonporn.com

When I say imagine it I mean close your eyes and imagine that you are fucking a girl and you are enjoying it. Thats the important part.

>>17568776

Mentally damaging isn't a buzzword. Brushing off everything I've said by saying Superiority Complex is just fallacious.

No the men I'm referring to are great men such as Tesla, Newton, Socrates, Tolstoy. None of whom practiced self flagellation as far as I'm aware but yeah I appealed to tradition but you did the same fucking thing by committing the genetic fallacy and then saying look all these other people who preached abstinence also did self flagellation that means abstinence is bad. Get the fuck out with that logic.

You then spent the rest of the time churning out your own supposed half truths. I never used cult shame tactics. I never assumed everyone was an addict. You sound like you're just projecting your own experience onto me now.

Don't worry anon, I'm not trying to see away your cummies sessions. Just offering OP some advice.

>>17568677
I did no fap; now I'm a billionaire playboy with a helicopter pad on my mansion.

>>17568840
>Your weird fetishes are most likely results of consumption of porn.
Maybe some of them. I used to hump the bed as a kid while fantasizing about fucked up shit most people would never masturbate to.

>When I say imagine it I mean close your eyes and imagine that you are fucking a girl and you are enjoying it.
Well there's always me, my dick and a girl (or more) involved. And I'm enjoying it all right.

>>17568872
Same except most mansions are basically sheds now that I stopped watching porn too. I literally own the white house.

>>17568898

Read that site man

>>17568919
I did, some time ago. It says that porn ADDICTION is bad and can fuck up your sex life. Which I totally agree with. What I don't agree with is that "everything wrong with your sexuality is because of porn and porn is harmful in any doses" idea some people spout.