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What's the Best Power Play?

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Alright /adv/, I need some input on this - I have time to decide, but it's important I act whenever she contacts me next.

So, long story short, I recently met a tinder chick who for all intents and purposes, is much better looking online. I mean, her vag stinks. Her sex drive is high as fuck, it's insane, but it's made up for by a terribly slobbish (actually refuses to eat anything that isn't meat or starch) and lazy demeanor (made me sleep in until 5 one day). Needless to say, in terms of long term dating, she's a No with a hard, capital 'N'. She's also very clingy, which I don't mind so much, but it makes it hard to break the (what I should hope by virtue of signals) obvious news that I'm not looking for anything involved or long term with her.

Enter my buddy, he's a relatively simple guy. I can't describe him much other than to say he's your typical 40-year-old-trapped in the body of a 20 year old type. Grunty, crusty, burly, simple. You get it. He's told me that in the past, he messed around (I guess flirted, I tried to endugle his story, but I think he overplayed a bit of text flirting, he's not exactly well experienced, so I think he tends to exaggerate) with one of his old work buddy's girlfriends

Knowing this, I keep my friends who reveal this kind of information on a tight leash, so to speak. Now, this girl isn't my girlfriend, but I'd like to keep her around for a while as a friend with cuddling and some sexual benefit (selfish of me, I know). But he told me casually while asking to come over today that she messaged him the other night on facebook, the same night she'd sent out to me that she had a new bottle of liquor, and asked if he wanted to drink. Now, I've been around the block, and it doesn't exactly take an investigative reporter to know when a chick is up to no good, I mean, if she'd told me in some capacity, which she'd have ample time to do, being so clingy, I would've heard about it. So what I'm asking is what the best power play is with her
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I ultimately don't care what she does, I'm sure she's done something or at the very least sent someone pictures, it just seems in her nature. We're talking about a chubby, Facebook-browsing, lame-meme-loving, liberal chick here with an aversion to healthy food, who claims to exercise, yet remains pasty.

I really don't care for her in any serious romantic way much, but I'd like to make sure she knows damn well she isn't pulling a fast one on me. I could opt for blocking her outright on everything, calling her out on it, seeing if she brings it up if she calls me or eventually if I see her, or something else. What are your recommendations?
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>>17547648
This is pretty ridiculous. Power play? This lameass broad isn't even worth the effort. Why tf do you care if she knows she's not getting over?

Regardless, I'd drop her. She sounds gross and you're kinda gross for wanting to keep her around... Her vag STINKS?? Wtf dude. And your pride is already irreversibly hurt because you KNOW she's gross and she was still trying to play you. Like a hobo talking shit about your clothes. It's insulting. Even if you "win" it's still punching down, so it's not even going to be that glorious. I don't know what the fuck you want out of this situation.
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>>17547773
That's what I'm asking you, you seem to feel pretty strongly about the situation, clearly you have a course of action in mind

And don't let me overplay it just because I dislike her negative traits, she isn't REPULSIVE, she just looks more curvy chubby and less "I'm going to be huge in 10-15 years" chubby on her tinder page

I only care because it's a friend of mine she hit up, and he had the good sense to tell me about it, that's embarrassing, I'm trying to figure out what the best course of action is that preserves my dignity on all fronts. Hell, I barely want to even bring it up in passing to my buddy once he comes over just because I don't want to seem like I care at all, when the truth is, I obviously care a little

Is there spoilers on /adv/? [spoiler]it is a hit to the pride, I'm definitely more desirable than my buddy on practically all levels I can conceive of, so her going to him secretly for any reason is just a testament to how dirty she is, she just wants more dick, not quality[/spoiler]
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>>17547628
How old are you and the girl? Why do you want yo play games? Just tell her you're not interested and stop being so selfish
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>>17547797
It's not playing games, I've basically told her what I've told you guys, maybe not as hurtfully (in regards to the not being even remotely healthy thing, I'm no super fit guy myself but I workout and I'm committed to it more than she is)

It's definitely childish, I'll admit, but I'm out of her league by at least a few notches. It's like the other guy said, she's trying to play me, when she should worship the ground I walk on. She's not land whale territory, but I can't imagine most guys would want more from her than a bar-bathroom blowjob. I mean she did "porn" once (which is what I imagine she calls getting paid by some weirdo who'd actually pay for that to have sex with her and record it, and supposedly is on DVD covers at the local headship/porn shop) and is going to a party soon where she said people will be doing coke...so, she's essentially white trash, I guess is the best term.
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>>17547789
The best thing is to drop her entirely. Playing these mindgames is only making it more pathetic and will leave you with less dignity in the end. Because- more than likely- she gives zero fucks. You can't win midngames with someone who doesn't care about playing.

And let's be honest- you were trying to dick her over to get what you wanted, and you ended up getting embarrassed. Move on man, my guess is you're too old for these shenanigans.
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>>17547821
>you were trying to dick her over to get what you wanted, and you ended up getting embarrassed
This part I don't get, what do you mean?

But otherwise, you're not wrong, but how do I go about dropping her entirely? She's going to text me, do I just start not answering? I'd like my hoodie back, I never gave it to her with the intention of keeping it. I hate when girls do that shit, at least ones I'm not actually dating.

And I'll say this, I can see it being a combination of both, she's clearly into me in a romantic way, the amounts of texts, snaps, facetime calls, are more than any chick who thought she was stringing me on would be. Meanwhile, this thread is the most thought I've ever given her. I'm sure she is a big slut, one way or another, but I don't think she's trying to dick me around that way either.
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>>17547831
well you said you thought you'd need to break the news that you don't want to be serious
but in the meantime you'll keep fucking her.

Also your friendship with this dude sounds fucked from here til Tuesday, but I won't even get into that.
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>>17547867
how so? this example isn't really that exemplary of what our friendship is like, we've had worse conflicts over politics than women, the dude is non-threatening, I mean, I only threw in the example about that other girl because it fits the situation, but (he claims) he isn't interested in her, and she's not the kind of girl anybody's interested in, more like the kind you /end up with/

I don't actually mean to paint him in the wrong light, i mean, this is the first time anything like this, or even close to it, has ever happened, and he went and told me right away
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>>17547873
Haha well it's not really him, it's you. He sounds like a semi-decent dude, aside from his past.

It kind of reminds me of some female 'frenemies' type shit. Like the hot girl that will keep her ugly friend around, and is appalled if a guy shows interest in uggo over her- because uggo is so clearly 'beneath' her. I don't really rank myself against my friends, or keep them on a 'tight leash.' All of this is just... weird... like he might possibly play with a toy you didn't want to begin with.

Really seems like you might have some growing up to do...
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>>17547899
>like he might possibly play with a toy you didn't want to begin with.
>Really seems like you might have some growing up to do...
Even if I'm not /that/ into this girl, that doesn't mean it's okay for a buddy of yours to fuck her, that's your territory. It was right of him to tell me. You can't tell me all human relationships, hell, human society, isn't built on power dynamics, relationships that are complex and shift constantly. Honestly, it should be him you should be judging for that one thing in the past, it's actually kind of an uncharacteristically douchebag thing compared to the rest of what he does

I just now got off the phone with him and he flat out said "it doesn't seem right getting invested with that kind of chick who gets drunk and probably just walks around town and comes on to people"

So "lso your friendship with this dude sounds fucked from here til Tuesday, but I won't even get into that." this part has got to be false. I mean, I don't want to give the impression of something more vindictive than it is - are you a male or female? I think it makes a difference. As a female, you're almost inherently in a power position, in terms of a relationship. As a guy, you have an incentive to know whos talking to people you know, in a general sense, and that's that. You can't be too naive, in this internet age, people can sneak around on 15 different apps and you'd be none the wiser. Maintain an upfront ideal of honesty and a bit of intimidation with folks, and they'll return the respect
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>>17547938
>that doesn't mean it's okay for a buddy of yours to fuck her
Agree totally.
It's just the way you were framing it I guess. Throwing in how below you HE is, and how below you SHE is. Came off very "I'm better than both these terds!" But looking back, the harshenss is likely coming from the bruised ego. I guess I saw your dynamic with the dude wrong.

I'm a really blunt and honest person, give respect when deserved- but I don't intentionally intimidate anyone or really think I'm better than anyone. I'm simply too lazy for all that, and it's worked out for me so far (especially when it comes to office politics, which is surprising).

I won't lie, I'm kind of confused about the situation as a whole. There seems to be things contradicting other stuff and lots of grey area. Regardless- >>17547821 is still what I'd go with.
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>>17547938
oh fuck sorry, didn't answer. Female
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Bump

How do I go about distancing myself from this girl without making too obvious, and getting my jacket back in the process lmao
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>>17548018
See you're thinking of it in terms of I'm a dude just using her so I'm just another asshole, if this same situation happened with a girl I really liked and was dating, I'd be all over her and even more all over my "pal"

Being a woman makes it hard to sympathize with the plight of the modern man, to you all, we're binary; either far too naive, trusting, innocent, and well-meaning, which one way or another encourages unscrupulous behavior, or, even a hint of any behavior that implies otherwise makes us control freaks, from asking who a guy is to being actual control freaks


>>17547973
I'm not good at explaining things over text, or rather, it's not that I'm not good at that, it's that a lot of what happens in my life requires you being in person to meet the people I'm talking about. Most people relate things back to what they know. You're picturing the girl, my friend, as someone completely different. I'd probably explain it better if I did it in voice
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>>17548177
I have a pretty balanced view, and I think for the first time in history it kinda sucks to be a white straight dude. You basically have to walk on eggshells to avoid getting publicly shamed or being slapped with a rape accusation.

And this
>either far too naive, trusting, innocent, and well-meaning, which one way or another encourages unscrupulous behavior, or, even a hint of any behavior that implies otherwise makes us control freaks, from asking who a guy is to being actual control freaks
Sounds like you've been dealing with some real assholes if they think in these terms.

Your story came off different than you mean it to. Also... I'm still stuck on this smelly vag thing. I don't know if I can let that go. I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS.

Good luck with the next one OP
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>>17547628

>So what I'm asking is what the best power play is with her

Immediately stop interacting with her and start behaving like an adult.

That's the ultimate power play.
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>>17548240

>I think for the first time in history it kinda sucks to be a white straight dude

Are you being serious?
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>>17548273
I'm being completely serious. Sucks more than it ever has before.
I mean- they're still at the top of the food chain when it matters, but shits getting nutty out there.
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>>17547628

>I ultimately don't care what she does

>[she] made me sleep in until 5 one day

Sorry, what? Another person MADE you do something? Stop being a fucking cuck.
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>>17548318
I don't think you know what that word means
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>>17548299

youre fucking delusional? want to know why ppl hate white guys? because white guys CAN ACTUALLY do whatever the fuck they want. you could do it right now. there is still time to enjoy your WHITE STRAIGHT CIS MALE PRIVILEGE.

dont fucking get upset @ other people's dumb thoughts, just do what we do best, whatever the fuck we want.
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>>17548320
Just because white dudes get unfair advantages overall doesn't make it cool for some of them to get crucified over stupid shit, or have the word 'rape' thrown around so callously.

Jesus, calm the fuck down.
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>>17548330

no one is getting crucified. who have you seen been crucified? no one.

what, does what other ppl say about white guys on the internet upset you? do you need a "safe space" not to hear about how white guys colonized and dominated the entire world and are still at the top of the food chain? is having a 90% chance not to be charged, accused, OR convicted of an ACTUAL RAPE YOU COMMITTED not high enough, should we get away with it 100%? i realize some guys may get shafted for no reason but overall its a pretty fucking crazy thing, that you can actually do that most of the time with no consequences. thats why so many ppl do it.
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>>17547628
Cut her off.
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>>17548320
Who the fuck let your delusional ass on 4chan? Are you actually insane? I leave my thread alone for like an hour and you come in here with this new-age, hippie, liberal SJW bullshit?

Good trolling 7/10
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>>17548382
Just completely? No contact whatsoever?

What about my jacket [spoiler]:^([/spoiler]
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>>17548406

no, im just a man who takes what he wants, and youre a little beta boi.
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>>17548406

and oh yeah, btw, you only want to "make a power play" against this women because she hurt your feelings. you keep saying she's clingy, but she's trying to talk to other guys. youre just upset that she's just not as into you as you think. get the fuck over yourself and talk to her like a man
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>>17548299

>Sucks more than it ever has before.

For the record, it has, historically, never sucked to be a straight white man. Logically, you can't step up and say shit like "We're still at the top of the food chain but...."

No. There is no but after that. I'm not saying that no one who is white and straight gets to have complaints but you'll understand if literally everyone who isn't a straight white guy hears your griping about how your life sucks because sometimes feminists get sore with you tells you to go fuck yourself right?

>>17548330

>doesn't make it cool for some of them to get crucified over stupid shit

Firstly, white males aren't the victims of some witch hunt here. The differentiation you need to make is that the reason people are being particularly cognizant of the habits of white males is because straight, white men have gotten away with rape and murder for hundreds of years in this country and in the past 15 years people actually start to give a shit and notice.

I'm not saying YOU have done anything wrong, personally, but can you not understand that in a world where straight white guys have done pretty much whatever they want since the founding of this country, its a little unfair to throw yourself under the victim bus now that the spotlight is on you?

No one is asking you to take responsibility for every atrocity committed by a white man, just stop being a little bitch and trying to make yourself the victim.

There's more important things happening in the world that need attention besides your mild case of butthurt.

You, are statistically, in the best place you can be as a human in the U.S. Straight, white and male. Now more than ever you need to be well versed and objective about the current social climate, not a petulant child who feels attacked whenever someone mentions your gender or race as an advantage.
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>>17548409
Take the loss.

You deserve to pay a penalty for messing around with a girl like this.
Never do it again.

Here's to better choices and fortunes.
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>>17548409
Go to her house to "chill" and bring it back, then you cut contact, woman usually just give some lame excuses if not outright ignoring when they are not interested in a guy, maybe tell her "I feel I need to focus more on my studies" or some shyt like that. Good luck.
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>>17548452

amen, tiny-faced mel gibson.
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>>17548452

I was going to write something very facetious but I'd just be doing what both sides of this sjw mra ordeal are doing. So I'll only be a little facetious.

>Stop being a little bitch and stop trying to make yourself the victim
>Boohoo we are the REAL victims in this scenario, not you.


>I thought summer was over
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>>17548452
You're blowing what I said way outta proportion. I don't even disagree with what you're saying. OP made one comment about the plight of the modern male, and I basically said "Yeah, it can kind of suck for you guys sometimes, I'm not blind to that", and you took it as me talking some kind of White Lives Matter rhetoric and not 'getting' where all this is stemming from. How you took my casual observation about the current climate and spun it into me being a petulant child feeling persecuted, I have no idea. Calm your tots.

And, for the record, I'm a black Jew chick, so- I may have it the worst out of everyone on paper. I think I'm allowed to say when shits getting stupid. It's obvious the whole PC / feminist thing is spinning wildly out of hand regardless of the intentions, or what's 'fair' and what's not.
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>>17548502

ur a little bitch punk, its only ur fault that ure the way u are
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>>17548513

>I'm a black Jew chick

jfc no you are not, holy shit are you SO not any of those things
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>>17548516
Well, half of that statement is true....


As for being a little bitch.... I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>17548524
Haha, I really am. It's just me, Lenny Kravitz, and Drake. Didn't you wonder why I kept referring to white dudes as "they"...? As in- I'm not included in that grouping?


I am straight though, so I can't play that card.
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>>17548502

Not once in my post did I ever identify a group of people nor myself as the "real victims". That's you putting words in my mouth and trying to sound smart while doing it.

Summer is never over.

>>17548513

>How you took my casual observation about the current climate and spun it into me being a petulant child feeling persecuted, I have no idea. Calm your tots.

My point was that your casual observation of the current climate isn't at all representative of the actual current climate.

I'm sure Kim Jon Un sometimes gets hang nails but that doesn't mean its rational or logical to say "sometimes it sucks to be a mega rich dictator". I'm talking about statistical facts, not the blasé, second-hand observation that "sometimes it sucks to be a person with a certain skin color". That means nothing nor does it prove anything.

Like I said before, I'm not saying people on a personal level aren't allowed to have complaints or problems with their lives but your point, in comparison to the statistical actuality of what is happening in the world, isn't actually a point. Its just kind of a glad-handed misrepresentation of reality. I felt if you really 'got' where all this was coming from you wouldn't of said something so narrow-minded.

People say and do stupid shit all the time but exploding minority issues and trying to paint them as trends is not factually or logically accurate.
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>>17548541

meme harder boi, u memes old and stale
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>>17548558
Fuck, you just prattle on and on and on. I already said, I agree for the most part- but I'm not allowed to point out a hangnail and say "yeah, that sucks sometimes"? I wasn't misrepresenting shit, you just took what I said and ran with it. Chill the fuck out for fucks sake.

And... you just completely ignored me not being a white dude thing...heh.
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>>17548587

u straight cisgendered pigs are all the same
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>>17548330
You seem nice. I'm tired of insane Marxists trying to tear apart society on the basis of demographic variables.
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>>17548273
>>17548320
>>17548354
>>17548452
>>17548558
Fuck off you invasive SJW cancer. No one asked for your opinion. No one invited you to derail the thread with this insane retarded horseshit. You are not adding value. Go bitch on Tumblr or something. I swear to god I will never hire one of you people; all you do is stir up shit for no reason and screw up organizations on the basis of ill-supported ivory tower assertions.
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>>17548829

Sorry if facts make you angry. Ideas that threaten your narrow minded world view can be quite distressing. I understand.


>>17548587

>And... you just completely ignored me not being a white dude thing...heh.

I felt it was irrelevant to the stupid shit you said.

>you just took what I said and ran with it. Chill the fuck out for fucks sake.

I don't know if anyone's told you this but constantly telling the person you're debating with to "chill the fuck out" isn't any sort logical high ground. Like, hey look at this guys, if I just keep saying "calm down" it'll give the illusion that I'm calm and logical everyone else is just tripping out.

>but I'm not allowed to point out a hangnail and say "yeah, that sucks sometimes"?

I'm not sure if you're just being purposefully obtuse or if you actually didn't read what I said. What world do you live in where people disagreeing with you equals them telling you you aren't allowed to have an opinion?

I listed several reasons why I thought you were wrong and your only response it to say "Woah, I'm not allowed to have an opinion?"

The only one prattling is you. You're being quite evasive.
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>>17548436
She sent me so many snapchats last night, she's not ignoring me. She's clingy.,she's just also a slut
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>>17548452
You're full of shit, on what basis can you make that claim? Let me guess - because there was slavery? In America? In the eighteenth century? Get over yourself

Look at ALL of history, not just ten minutes of Wikipedia reading you did to suit your needs, and get back to me. Whites, hell, most races but Arabs suffered through the dark ages. Do you know the kind of influence the original Spanish empire had? Hell, Asians were killing themselves for centuries before we ever dropped any bombs.

No but you're right, because one period of expansion (white mans burden) happened, whitey is the devil. El gringo Diablo, right! Definitely doesn't happen to be pure circumstance that "old white men" represent the power elite because statistically, most of the students who made it that far in the schools necessary to get such a job were white.

Fuck off with your racist ass.
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>>17549441
That's a really weird combo- I think that's why this shit is so confusing. Usually clingy = loyal (until they start clinging to someone else and drop you entirely). How is she crawled up your ass while simultaneously hitting up your friend?

Here's the real question- are you going to be straight with her about WHY you're dropping her, or just kind of ghost her with no explanation?

...or are you going to continue on this path of smelly vag (cough, you know you are).


>>17549196
I seem evasive because I hardly said anything to begin with, ya just ran with it bud. You've just got a chip on your shoulder that you want to squawk about, even if no one is even really disagreeing. Run along now into the world and ruin someone's day.
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>>17548558
>Trying to sound smart
Says the guy writing novels on 4chan.

I don't need hyphenated words to sound smart, kid.

<[You]
<<Back to tumble
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>>17548587
They're called idiots, son. Leave them be.
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>>17549515
Which is best? I mean I don't want to seem equally shitty as her. Sure I'm offended by her choice, and out of her league, but am I any better if I just disappear? I'm not sure what to do


She even sent some screenshot thing of some tumblr post and part of it was this thing, like a numbered list, that said "number 22. He doesn't reply" or something
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>>17549935
personally I'm a big fan of honesty. I'll tell someone what I think/what I'm doing, and why. Maybe it's the Jew in me, who knows.

I've never ghosted someone, I think it's kind of a pussy move. If someone did something absolutely abhorrent, they deserve to hear about it. In this case, I'd just kind of say "What you're doing is weird, I don't like it, and I don't think we'd work out anyway.... good luck?"

Sigh, that screenshot shit just annoyed the fuck out of me even just hearing about it secondhand. This girl is a real dream.
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