Has anyone here asked out someone out of their league, be it

Me and with my curent gf.

She's incredibly out of my league, to the point where I sense she doesn't like to be seen loving me/kissing/hugging me because of that, based on how she acts around her friends and when we're alone.

Overall it's a meh experience. I'm feeling like shit but the few moments when she does love me, it's incredibly warm and makes me feel incredibly good and confident about myself.

I was better single all in all though.

>>17517712
lol I think you mean "someone you're attracted to" you fucking idiot. help them get laid and watch your bankroll increase. I do not joke about this.

>>17517717
>to the point where I sense she doesn't like to be seen loving me/kissing/hugging me because of that, based on how she acts around her friends and when we're alone
Why do you think she decided to date you though when she doesn't want to hang out with you in front of her friends?

>>17517717
That sounds awful

>>17517721
I made a thread about it.

When we're with friends, she literally acts like we barely even know each other. She's very distant and cold and it makes me feel like shit.

She did tell me at the beginning she doesn't like to be all lovey dovey. But she is not very affectionate towards me. Like I said, when she is, it feels very good but she rarely is affectionate.
I hope to God above it's just her personality.

>>17517723
It's awful when I want to be intimate with her and she just stands here like a sack of cloth. She told me she likes being kissed and all, but she almost never responds to the affection.

>>17517712

I'm a 5 or 6 and I asked out my pretty good friend who's like an 8. She's pretty hot.

She said yes originally, but uh... her last boyfriend cheated on her and I kinda asked at a bad time since I didn't even know they broke up recently. Thought it was longer.

Long story.

But ignoring this possible deflection (I really don't think it is, a lot of people struggle at my age with cheating fucking up their emotions), she once told me in private she's got body image issues, which I find to be insane.

She's insanely hot and shouldn't worry one bit about her look, but it seemed her self-image was that of a 5 or 6, which made me and her hang out and get along easily.

Basically, leagues are worthless. Self-worth is all that matters. Sometimes you'll find a girl who only likes 8 guys or above. Sometimes you'll fine a lower-self esteem girl who goes for most average or above guys. Sometimes you find a girl who doesn't give a fuck about looks and will go for you based off of personality.

It's usually a good rule of thumb to just say fuck it and ask anyway - it's always the best idea since you never know if you'll luck out.

Just be careful of if they're embarrassed to be seen with you.

>>17517735
If they're embarrassed to be seen with their other half then they have an agenda.

>>17517712
Since qualifying as a doctor, all the student nurses and student doctors take a liking to me... Along with some of the staff nurses

And I probably look worse now from lack of time to go to the gym and eat well

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>>17517712
Well I asked this pretty girl out at a cafeteria, didn't realize she was there with her bf. (Didn't know she had a bf the whole time I had a crush on her) So I told her to not worry about it and walked away. After that I think she was intrigued and kept trying to initiate conversation whenever she saw me, we talked a few times and then she asked me to hang out more often, but I didn't want to be a complication in their relationship so I avoided them afterwards. Few years later I met them at the same cafeteria again, they are still together, she waved and I sort of nodded politely.

I know my limits and all. But one time I went with a good friend in a club, hoping to pick-up some average chicks or something.

Then two 9.5/10 appeared. I told him that they are out of our league and something. 5 minutes later we were dancing with them and they made photos with us.

By the end of the night, we were walking them home and chatting, getting to know eachother.

Turned out we don't know the reason for why they stayed with us. I mean, we talked, danced, getting close and all but that was it. They wanted to go out with us and that's all. Probably the most disappointing experience in my life.

>>17517754
ALL women like a man who can dance.

>>17517712
As for experience sharing, I dunno. I'm a 5'5 dude who's slightly more handsome than the next 5'5 dude, it has allowed me to woo women plenty taller and plenty gorgeous. None of them stick around though.

GF of 2 years used to be that "9/10 who I have absolutely no chance with".

As you can probably guess, I asked her out and she said yes. Over time I lost that underdog mentality and realised the league disparity between us wasn't as broad as I originally thought nor am I as average looking as I used to think.

>>17517712
I've dated a girl I considered a 10/10. She cheated on me after 2 years, but it's whatever. She actually was the one who sorta asked me out, basically telling me she'd really like to be able to call me her boyfriend. This has happened a few times to me where the girl plainly says she wants to date me. I usually go for girls in the 8-10/10 range that are traditionally considered attractive. I also go for some that aren't considered pretty because I have a thing for awkward/lanky/nerdy looking girls sometimes. I'm 5'6", over 200 lbs, and have been working fast food for the past 5 years. I always thought I was average looking, or below average looking. I've gotten mixed responses from women, it's usually either they're attracted to my personality, but turn me down because I'm not their type physically, or they're sorta neutral about my looks, but after getting to know me they start finding me cuter because of my personality. I definitely don't think any woman would ever be super attracted to me just based on looks alone. The 10/10 I dated for 2 years said she thought I looked like a nerd when she first met me, but she thought my voice was really sexy and she developed a crush on me. So I don't think I'd have success just asking a 10/10 out on the street, but if the girl had time to hang out with me I'm definitely confident I could attract her. It's weird, I was always super unconfident and never approached any women before, but now after successes I definitely bat way out of my league.

>>17518387
kek ok batman

what exactly does it mean to be "out of someone's league" I think these are just imaginary labels some people use as an excuse to not engage with people they are intimidated by. just be the best you that you can be and try to find someone that makes you happy. don't try to make it more complicated than it needs to be =)

I consider myself a solid 6. One day at my job a literal 10/10 said hello to me and I was like damn imagine being with that. Long story short she ended up contacting me and we hit it off. We only ended kissing a couple of times but she never wanted to date.

thats my story yo

>>17518507
When somebody has higher social standing than you, they are considered out of your league. Example, the high school cheerleader that's also valedictorian, class president and the prettiest girl in the school and everyone wants to date, is "out of the league" of the kid who sits quietly in class and has like 2 friends tops.

Does that sound sophomoric and immature? Well it should, but that kind of explains it, and it's real. Some people WILL reject you for being "below" them. Most reject you because of lack of compatibility, though.

I don't believe in leagues, and I especially don't believe a girl is too good for me because she is pretty.

so she's only a freak in the sheets, sounds pretty normal. Are you ever comfortable when your best mate and his girl are smooching on each other while you're hanging out? No. You feel like a third wheel. Your gf is obviously conscious of that and doesn't want her friends feeling that way too. Also it's way easier to act like you don't exist because they have a billion memories/inside jokes AS A GROUP that you were not originally a part of. Chill B

>>17518507
This. But it can be hard for some minds to figure that out when it's such a popular trope in media.

>>17518581
It's not sophomoric. People want to date someone like them. Highly successful attractive people make good mates for other highly successful attractive people. People generally want the best they can get, and 10/10 people can get the best. People complaining about it being juvenile or a trope are so ridiculous, because they're the ones also trying to go for the 10/10. You never see a 6/10 guy going for a 2/10 woman, but he expects 10/10 women to go for him (otherwise they're ~shallow~).

>>17517733
Pull away man, sounds like you're doing all of the pushing.

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I dunno if being very well off is enough to make a guy valuable in most women's eyes.

For many, If the age difference is too great, then he's only good for using and abusing. I'd gladly date David Rockefeller but would I respect him, love him in a romantic way or think of him as anything more than means to an end? Fuck no. I'd think ''lol look at this dumb lecherous pervert, I hope he buys me some nice shoes and a trip to Paris''. Women don't just want money, it's way more complex.

>>17517753
sauce on pic? or just post moar please.

I know a middle aged nurse who dated the owner of a big casino. At one point he got her a necklace worth around 10k. She eventually dumped him because he was being a prick, lol.

He was supposedly stuffy, boring and whiny.

>>17518679
> people want...
And you base this theory on what?

>>17518679
>Highly successful attractive people make good mates for other highly successful attractive people.
>People generally want the best they can get, and 10/10 people can get the best.

Most of the time it's not "highly successful attractive people" that are being discussed when somebody says he/she is out of my league. Usually it means "they are more popular/better looking than me and I'm scared I'd be rejected over that".

People with a greater amount of financial/educational success do want to be with people on their "level", it's true. Many women I talk to though, don't care about that much at all. They do want a guy who's "manly" and attractive to them, but they don't care all that much about his job so long as he makes decent money. They don't want to date a complete loser, but they will happily go for a guy who isn't in incredible shape, makes six figures, etc. so long as she feels an emotional connection and he makes her happy. Most guys I know fit this description, more or less, so then it comes down to compatibility and mutual willingness to build a relationship.

All in all, the "leagues" thing can apply if they are practically from two different worlds (one is NEET and the other is very well off). I'd say that more often than not though, it's your typical insecurities/hang ups. Someone being prettier than you or making a little more money than you does not make them out of your league.

>>17517712
I asked out a guy who is out of my league look-wise. I'm not ugly, but I'm plain and I don't really care to change it through make-up etc.

How did it go? Pretty easily, actually. I didn't plan for it at all, though, and it started out as a joke.

How did it happen? He was talking about relationships with one of our mutual friends and, for some reason, the friend in question said that she thought I would never ever fuck him (to this day, I still don't know how I became the main star of the conversation because I know that he didn't inquire).

Nevertheless, I turned around, laughed, said that it actually wasn't out of the realm of possibility, and I asked whether he was free this Saturday. To my surprise, he took it seriously and we ended up going to that date.

We've been together for one year now.

>>17518700
Most people marry someone of similar attractiveness, with similar interests, from a similar socioeconomic background, in the same income bracket, around the same age. Those are also the most successful marriages (according to research).

>>17518706
The emotional connection comes after the physical connection. You're delusional if you think looks don't matter in men. There have been studies that followed men and women's dating patterns and while guys say they care about appearance more than women on paper, they care equally about appearance when they're faced with an actual person. It's subconscious. Papers referred to this as the delusion of self-insight. We think we want one thing (following social norms of women not caring about looks and men only caring about appearance) but our behaviors show different.

>>17518948
I don't disagree. However I do think a lot of the time people explain away rejections with "leagues" even when it's not valid. People of similar attractiness can be drawn together but then a bunch of other things causes it not to work out.

I would know because I meet women I have a lot in common with and don't consider that much more attractive than me. They'll go on a date or two and then turn me down. Compatibility issues, not leagues.

I've never had the courage to straight forwardly ask someone out, but I, being a 6 at best with makeup and flattering clothes, was being talked to by a friend of a friend who was a solid 10 one time. I totally let myself become delusional that maybe he was interested, so I put on some pretty obvious moves, and I got some pretty obvious "moves of rejection" in return.
Like I would flirt and talk about sexual topics with him, and when he caught on I was flirting he immediately flipped the script and then exclusively talked about other chicks he's banged, describing his dream woman as someone who was basically the exact opposite as me.
Felt bad, but hey, since I didn't out and out say "I like you", I could at least play it all off like I was never actually interested in the first place, we were just friends.
It stung a bit, but I mean part of me knew it would be the result anyway so I got over it pretty quickly. It was a long shot.

>tfw was egged on by "friends" to ask out hottest girl in school
>I kinda drift, hang out with nerds and jocks, being the class clown i was well rounded
>Painfully awkward and she rejects me
>Next day ask her to keep it between us because it really embarrassed me
>She says ok
>King k kool
>Week later being typical goon in science class
>Girl behind me says "no wonder X said no"
>Just look at her with disapointment

Literally never got a yes from a girl. I've got other stories if you guys want to hear my personal torment.

>>17520572
I want to.

>>17520582
>Really like girl, lots of interests are similar
>In off period our group is hanging and stuff
>Eventually say I wanna ask her something and talk alone
>ask her out
>Rejected
>Feels bad
>For some reason try to hug
>She says no
>Fucking won't even touch me

End of the year we hugged goodbye tho

Also I moved that year and wrote a letter to her how i still think about her and miss her, kept it with me and planned to give it to her. I came back and found out she was in long term relationship with a guy, I burned the letter and let it go.

BONUS!

>Girl in social studies I always talk to, really nice, rocking rack
>Even said shes proud of her tits and grabbed then
>Woah mama
>Didn't ask her out, she had a boyfriend and he seemed like a cool dude, gotta respect it
>Anyways boyfriend is switching schools, shes super upset and tomorrow is his last day
>Friend makes offbeat comment about how he hopes it snows so schools out right after she says it
>God fucking damn it Tony
>She bursts out crying
>Fuck man
>Hug her and she hugs back sad for like a second
>Probably most intimate moment I've had.
>Pushes away and I feel bad for her so try to hug her again and she says shes fine

Nice girl. Closest ive gotten to getting laid.

Got more if you want.

>>17520606
Dammit man I'm unfortunately remembering my fuck uos thanks to you.
Do go on.

>>17520606
Of course i do.

>>17520614
>Girl in math class I didn't realize I liked until a year later
>Was super sweet and cute
>Sat next to her and always worked together
>Year later realize im dumb
>Hit her up on Facebook
>Talk a bit and ask to swap numbers so we can text and make it easier
>Says she doesn't have a phone
>SENT FROM MOBILE
>Tell her I liked her but lying isn't cool and it hurts
>She says she doesn't have a phone MOST OF THE TIME (k lol) and im sweet
>Don't bother replying

Bonus

>Like a girl, try to talk on Facebook
>She's really cute but i dont know her that well, trying to make connections
>Just trying to talk and shes stone walling
>Tell her im sorry I don't want her to get sick of me
>"im sick of you already"

Didn't respond

Time machine real quick

>Elementary school
>Like Jenna for long time
>Always trying to get with that
>Improve self but never good enough
>Move on to middle school
>Keep trying to no avail
>Gets boyfriend that's in highschool
>Tell her bad news Scooby Doo, he's gonna pump n dump
>She says not true
>K

But then

>Meet Kayla, nice twig girl, but treats me decent
>We talk for a bit and I hang out with her sometimes
>Say lets hang out
>Ok but Jenna wants to come
>We go to the mall, I buy them shit like cuck Carl
>We get food
>Jenna tells me boyfriend pumped and dumped
>Feels bad as fuck
>Week later say i like Kayla
>Turns me down
>K

Being right felt wrong.

>>17520669
wait shit fuck this thread.

>Teya was my friend since kindergarten
>Little nerdy girl with glasses, nice girl though
>5th grade get feelings
>Shot down
>Feels bad
>Whatever still talk some times
>High school she gets hot loses glasses gets popular
>With one of my fag groups she's talking about her boyfriend named tyler
>I scoff in a joking way because we share the name
>Shes says I'm just mad because she wouldn't go out with me
>Cut deep man
>Stopped talking to her

Alright you guys wanna hear a more recent one or the 4 year shit show next

>>17520685
Is
>>17520656

>>17520656
Hm, the same pump and dump thing happened with the girl I liked for the longest, though there was no age difference. At first it felt wrong to be right, but now after a while it feels so good. Fucking whore.

Yah they just dick you around forever. unless you know the secret code which is anything other than a yes or a different date is a no.

>>17520685
Yes i do, always.

>>17520685
What a bitch that she treated you like you were nothing when she didn't have looks, then she came back only to drive the knife in when she luckily got looks.

There's a girl I know that's really out of my league. She's a dancer and has a fucking mint body.

She's is a bit simple though. Not incredibly bright. So it's a good thing that I'm really good friends with her. I just have to get fit and I'm in.

>>17517712

I have found that people are poor judges of their own attractiveness, usually underestimating it. I thought my wife was out of my league. Turns out, she thought she was plain and I was hot.

Just go for it.

Literal 10/10. I didn't ask her out. But I went full autismo.

Basically we took the same cab cause we live close to one another and she knows I got it hard for her. I know she knows. She knows I know. She invites me inside when the cab gets to her place and I'm poor because I partied a bit.

I declined because I had no cab fare to get home and opted to walk. She gave me an extremely confused look and went inside without another word.

I didn't realize what had happened until after she closed the door. Think twice for next time.

>>17517717
That's like me and my current gf, with the only difference that she isn't out of my league at all because she's ugly too. I've told her about this but she replies me every time that's about her personality. I don't believe her, but I'm staying with her some more time to see if she's right after all.
Anyway do you have a link for the thread you made? Maybe just tell me a few keywords so I can search in the archive?

>>17517712
Twice I asked out hot girls, they both said yes and went on date, but the dates sucked because I was intimidated and they did not try to carry their half at all. Not worth it.

Has anyone has opposite expieriences?

Ive been told im very hot snd attractive according to girls ive hooked up with, but when i try getting with 5 or 6's (i have low self esteem), i get rejected a ton.

>>17517712
they pity u and give u the dick

>>17517712
I'd say I'm average looking if I'm being polite towards someone who looked like me, but honestly I'm what I'd argue to be "unconventionally attractive".
I was in a relationship with a woman who modelled (for catalogues, mostly business clothing) and was way back then social media famous, she was happy that I had the balls to approach her and we sorted out a time to go out for coffee.
Also, I didn't know who she was before I approached her.

The downsides to having an attractive girlfriend
>people look at you like you grew another head, or assume you are a beta orbiter
>your gf becomes a tick in someone's box, so they can say they fucked a model
>stalkers, if she has recurring viewers, eventually someone will find her, it is pretty stressful getting calls from your scared gf because someone showed up at her workplace or they approach her in the street trying to give her flowers asking why she isn't responding to their comments
>people never believe you are her boyfriend
>you find yourself feeling like you are competing with affluent people for your girlfriend's attention, especially some social media famous guys who want some sort of a collab or want to invite her to a party 100 miles away

We were together for 5 years, the relationship went downhill after she quit social media, got fat and demanded I pay for the things she enjoyed when she was getting free shit for raising the profile of businesses.

And no, she was never a dubai portapotty

i'm a 5, maybe an 8 to some fetishists. Batting above my league for a while now, with the occasional slip to a 2.

>>17517733
Not a healthy relationship, bro. Trust me,
You're going to become bitter. It may take 3 years, and then you'll have wasted 3 years of your life. Find someone who can make you feel fulfilled.

I've got girls way out of my league, like I'll see a girl and think holy shit she is hot. Girl ends up liking me. This happens a lot and it confuses me. Recently see my ideal female, 5'1 big boobs, pale skin, brown hair, blue eyes, great ass. AND she's into me without me even speaking and she finds out Im smart because we got class together now likes me more. Brain can't compute this and i do nothing.

Although I have BDD and see myself as a 3/10 male.