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What advice would you give to a boy/manchild who has never had a father figure?

Myself and alot of other boy/man children are in this situation right now. I never had a father growing up and mom suffered from it leaving me very sheltered as a kid.I didn't even have internet until i was 17. 23 now.

Im a 23yr old manchild who doesn't know a thing about being a man.
Here's a list of things i think me and other need help with feel free to add:

>How to sit down and eat a proper meal
Alot of us are either fat or skellys. I don't even think I'm eating properly (6'2, 156)

>How to start and hold a conversation and how to reply to common questions like a man
When someone asks "how are you?" i respond with "good thanks, yourself?". Is this childish?

>How to walk confidently and with correct posture.

>How to talk to and get treated with respect by women and men
How long should i be holding eye contact and which eye do i look in?

>How other people truly view you and harsh truths.
Girls are told all about men from a young age but i was never taught some of the harsh truths about women. What are they?

>How to stand my ground in a conflict with people i shouldn't really be conflicting with(or should I?)
Arguments,,talking to bosses, talking to coworkers, talking to roommates and girlfriends.

>How to stand my ground where a fight is about to happen
On the street,in the pub or at partys how do i stand my ground when there are people watching?

>How to fight
Should i hit first and how will i know if Im brave enough?

>Other man secrets
Like i said before i didn't even have the internet until i was 17 and sheltered as fuck.
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>>17489411
Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks
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>>17489429
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Sincerest advice would be to ignore all of what you've written.

>Alot of us are either fat or skellys. I don't even think I'm eating properly (6'2, 156)
You're probably eating fine, read up on it / ask around if you want to improve.

>When someone asks "how are you?" i respond with "good thanks, yourself?". Is this childish?
The most childish thing to do is ask if your response is correct. Answer with whatever you want.

>How to walk confidently and with correct posture.
Ask people if you walk slouched or not. Think of a sign that whenever you see will remind you to check your posture.

>How long should i be holding eye contact and which eye do i look in?
Don't take yourself too seriously, just spend time socially. Decide if you want to be friendly or not, etc.

>Girls are told all about men from a young age but i was never taught some of the harsh truths about women. What are they?
The harsh truth is they're all individual people with their own thoughts and feelings.

>Arguments,,talking to bosses, talking to coworkers, talking to roommates and girlfriends.
Over time you'll understand what battles to fight and what battles you can't win. You don't stand your ground if you can't win.

>On the street,in the pub or at partys how do i stand my ground when there are people watching?
Again, don't stand your ground if you can't win. Also I can't believe you put in "when there are people watching"

>How to fight
Should i hit first and how will i know if Im brave enough?
If you want to know, take up boxing.

>Other man secrets
>Like i said before i didn't even have the internet until i was 17 and sheltered as fuck.

There are no man secrets and a lot of us lived most our lives without the internet. And I don't get your obsession with men secrets, it's like you want to know some sort of gay code or something. Strong father figure or not, it doesn't affect you, your masculinity, or anything.
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The way to do it is literally just go out in the world and force yourself into different situations. If it's sink or swim, you will swim, trust in yourself to figure things out. You will almost always fall on your face at first, but you'll be surprised how quickly you'll learn.

I was socially inept at 23 too, but I was also in my third year of social development.

Basically, at 20 I'd spent two years in college as a complete shut in. I'd still see high school friends occasionally, but I was miserable. Then I studied abroad and met a bunch of people, and I was a geeky weirdo, but I made a bunch of new friends and partied constantly with them. Then when I went back to college I made it my mission to become a functioning person, so I joined tons of extracurriculars and forced myself to keep going to their meetings. I dropped a few and stayed in the ones that fit me. I was still a weirdo, but made some really good friends in all of them after a few weeks, and started getting invited to parties. I forced myself to go to every single party I was invited to, not out of enjoyment but out of training. Some went terribly, but some were incredibly fun and memorable.
Then at 23 I joined the Peace Corps. This was a great move for my own development. I was noticeably emotionally immature and socially awkward, but the Peace Corps taught me to work with people successfully, and to adapt to a strange foreign culture. I still forced myself to go to every Peace Corps party I could, and again, a couple went terribly and I felt like a freak, but most went really well and I became one of the better known partiers in my training group. The truth is, I didn't enjoy most of these parties that much, but it was excellent social training.
Then at 26 I worked at a neat indie bookstore with some hipster types, and I was still annoyingly awkward, but I learned to function even better and got in good with them, and we'd go out and drink a lot... (will continue)
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>>17489469
...and then I went back to the Peace Corps for a short (6 month) assignment, and was still a little awkward, but this time not so noticeably so. I was part of the crowd.

Through all this, I just had to learn to adapt. I'm honestly still a little awkward, but at this point most people, even "normies", seem awkward as well. I know how to put up appearances and seem normal. That's what you have to do - go out, learn to do things like cook and clean, and just force yourself to adapt. That's how you'll become a normal person.

To your questions:
Just eat so you feel good. Not too much junk food. Walk a lot. Eat vegetables and clean meats. Just do what feels good. Also, I recommend not keeping junk food in the house. It's fine to go get ice cream with friends, but don't keep around anything you can just sit around and snack on. Stay active - walk everywhere. Do some push ups and sit ups, maybe go to a gym regularly if there's one conveniently near you.

Empty answers to questions like "how are you" are actually a perfectly normal thing to do, but it's also lame and dispiriting. Try to think of something more substantial and don't just deflect.

Everyone has posture problems. Just keep working on it. The biggest thing with confidence is, make eye contact. Always and directly.

I recommend strong eye contact, maybe blink and glance away at points, but more eye contact is better than less.

Truth about women: you know how you like more feminine women? They like more masculine men. Be confident and dominant. Women don't like indecisiveness. But BE YOURSELF. Think: what do I genuinely think and feel? Express that. Don't use lines or play games. They can see through that. Be straightforward with what you want, and always be honest about who you are.

With arguments, be honest with how you feel and what you won't budge on. Make it clear. Stand up for yourself, even if it ruffles feathers. People will respect you for that...
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>>17489497
In public, don't be petulant. Keep things light, and laugh things off, but stand your ground. If you don't stand your ground, no one will respect you. Things may get awkward if you hold your position and stand up for yourself when everyone else is pushing you to cave, and they may treat you badly. But the truth is, most people won't care much later, and if you stick up for yourself they'll have to adjust how they treat you. If you compromise yourself to go with the flow, no one will respect you.

Hit hard and always guard yourself. Go to a gym and learn to hit with some power on a heavy weight bag. Hit form the shoulder and hip - no power will come from the arm itself. Keep the top of your fist aligned with your forearm (flat) and emphasize the first two knuckles for actual contact.

And again, keep putting yourself out there and getting real world experience. Learn to do basic things like cooking, cleaning, and building/maintenance so people can respect you when those things come up.
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>>17489469
>>17489497
>>17489507
> tfw I write a crazy thorough response, and nobody reads it
At least I like writing...
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>>17490295
Not gonna lie man, it seemed interesting after the first two sentences, then I scrolled to see who else had posted, then noticed it was you, so I skipped everything and now im here kek
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There is nothing more to being a man than simply existing, in your state, you're an insecure man, but a man nonetheless. You're halfway there, stop wondering what a man is a be one, and you'd have arrived at your destination.
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>>17489411
>1
Vegetables are fairly inexpensive, they fill you up, and once you've been eating them for a while they don't taste too bad either. Try to eat most of them at the start of the meal and save the nicer stuff for towards the end. Also, learn to hold and use a knife and fork properly. That's really important.

>2
Short and sweet, don't use any more words than you absolutley have to. Make sure you pay attention to what the other person is saying - don't just listen to the noises they make, take on board what they're trying to tell you.

>3
Wherever you are, imagine you just bought the place. Imagine it belongs to you, and you're showing people around.

>4
Treat them as equals. The less equal - higher or lower - that they are from you, the more important this is. Watch videos of politicians talking to the public, one on one. Don't swear at all if possible, and definatley not in front of women or children.

>5
Everyone is out for themselves. That isn't a problem in itself, as long as you are aware of it and act accordingly.

>6
No one is any more or less important than you. You have just as much right to explain to them why they're wrong as they do to you. Never apologise to anyone unless it's an absolute last resort, and remember you can only ever apologise to any one person once.

>7&8
Life is not the school playground, and fighting is stupid, so don't do it. Things like "respect" and "reputation" are for gangster movies, and if you think you'll look silly walking away from a fight, try laying on the floor with a 6" knife sticking out of your neck. If you absolutley have to fight, remember the fear of being hit is much worse than actually being hit, which doesn't hrut anything like as bad as you'd expect.

>9
There is no problem in the world that can't be fixed by throwing money at it until it goes away, it's just a question of whether you have enough of it. Make as much as you can, as quickly as you can, and be mindful of what you do with it.
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>>17490751
Additional for 9 - Timekeeping.

Buy a decent watch. Analogue, waterproof, metal strap. If it costs less than an absolute minimum of what you earn for a week's full time work pre-tax it isn't any good and is a waste of money. Wear it all the time. Always get to where you need to be a minimum of five minuites before you need to be there, don't be late for anything, ever. Get a good quality battery powered alarm clock, put expensive batteries in it, change them before they run flat, not after. Go to bed earlier than you need to, get up earlier than you need to, get up at the same time at weekends as you do in the week.
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