ITT: Ask the opposite gender anything

Is it bad to have too much planned on a first date?
Thinking of changing locations/activities every hour.

>>17425258

Jesus, how many hours is this date supposed to last?

Do you also have a battle plan and tactics established too?

>Three man fire-teams
>Staggered formation
>20 meter spread

Less is more, comrade.

And always leave them wanting more, always.

Girls: Do you think it's weird for a guy to like gardening and growing lots of plants? Every girl that knows I like gardening thinks its weird because it's usually a girl thing

>>17425258

I want to say it depends on the circumstance.

- Have you known this person for a long while before hand before dating (ie as friends) or have you just met?

- What types of activities did you have in mind?

There is also nothing wrong with sticking to simple things too anon, but something different other than a movie, coffee, or dinner can be a good thing as well in breaking the chain of common first dates.

>>17425512

Sorry anon, I'm a dude.

No it's not weird. Actually, I think it's relaxing and fun in the long run. Who cares if it's weird, you keep doing you.

>>17425524
I'm also a guy and agree with this fella. Know plenty of guys who are the same. Are there girls you are talking to 13 years old?

>>17425512
No anon it's not weird. Who cares? It's way more attractive to actually own up to what you enjoy. Girls who think it's weird aren't ones you want to be with anyways.

Gals:

I've been rejected for being "too successful, confident" a couple of times in the last months.

I'm really not that successful. All I did was join the military which forced me to be confident through training.

What is the reasoning behind this? I'm so confused. (24 years old for reference)

>>17425524
>>17425530
>>17425531
I really dont care what they think about it but so many girls thought it was weird that I thought maybe it's one of those things I should keep on the backburner until later on, like owning guns, or strange sexual fetishes. But eh whatever

>>17425543
Too successful, and too confident?? What????? Who are the crazy girls you're talking to? Those are the two most attractive things to the majority of women...it's rather they feel too insecure about themselves and therefore not competent enough for you? Or there is actually another reason they just don't want to tell you about.

>>17425543

A part of feels like they are giving a very bullshit reason to you (which it is)

Another part feels like that maybe they are just horribly insecure to that point (maybe)

Have you also taken into that fact that you probably are too successful? You should slow it down there bud. Just make some bad decisions every once in a while ya know?

>>17425512

Nigger, I have a Spider Plant and a Hanging Plant and I'm a guy.

The Spider Plant is named: Spidey

The Hanging Plant is name: Planty McPlanterson III, Esq.

I talk to them, give Planty haircuts when his tentacles get too long and love them.

They're my brahs.

One time Planty got really bad fungus gnats due to over-watering which lead to rotting roots. He was dying so I had to unpot him, cut off all the rotting roots I could, shake out all possible soil in his roots, repot him with completely new soil, kept him in my bathroom for isolation (so any remaining gnats wouldn't kill Spidey) and let him dry out for three days.

I don't think I've ever done so much or been so worried about a woman in my life.

I saved the life of a dear friend and he rewards me with his continued friendship and fresh oxygen.

Mah nigga!

>>17425554
Either insecure or maybe they didn't like the whole military thing? That would make sense.

>>17425543

Which branch, comrade?

Also, dial it down.

No bragging, no flexing, focus on listening to them talk about useless shit and making them laugh.

Make them laugh and get their friends to like you and you're in like sin.

>>17425553

Man do you come out swinging or what?

>Dropping hobbies, hops, dreams, penis size and allergies all on the first date.

Focus on listening to them talk about themselves; if they run out of shit to say then make them them laugh and give them bits of information about you.

But ALWAYS leave them wanting more.

>>17425564
I did want to buy an airplane. Which would blow a significant portion of my paycheck on the loan, insurance, maintenance, and hangar fees for $2,000 a month. Is that a bad enough decision?

>>17425571
Personally, a guy being in the military isn't bothersome. It's actually something to admire. But I guess it is a subjective opinion.

>>17425574
Navy, you?

Probably could not mention anything I do in the military and that might help.

Probably should listen more... Thank you anon.

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Guys:

There's this guy at the gym that I think likes me. It's been going on for months. He puffs his chest out, makes sure to say good night to me, is friendly, stands near me, once he was showing me something on his phone, and leaned in and touched me.

90% of the time I see him I sperg out and am a mess. I hadn't seen him for a while and then asked a mutual friend where he was and he was at the gym the next day (yesterday). I saw him again today and had my number ready to give to him but chickened out. He seemed disinterested in me. I'm not sure if it was because I was talking to the employee for help with a new move?

I forgot my water bottle and had to go and get it and had ANOTHER chance of giving him my number but chickened out yet again.

Is it bad if I write a small note "if you want to have coffee/do something outside of the gym, call me" with my number and leave it on his phone?

>>17425595

Navy too, comrade.

HM, E-5; compounding pharmacy technician.

Just mention you were in the military and if they ask you which brand, then you can tell them which branch and what you did.

If they act interested then you can elaborate a bit but don't go overboard.

We're not Marines, comrade; no need to flex all the time or shoot presidents.

>>17425597

Eh, most guys think it's cute when girls sperg out a big; makes them more Alpha.

Write a cute little note with your number on it and tell him you'd like to do something with him besides hoisting then give it to him folded in half on your way out.

It's old school but it's a proven tried and true method.

>>17425597
Not a bad idea. I would make sure he knows it's you who left it. Initiative is attractive imo.

>>17425597
He might think you weren't interested. Leaving a note isn't bad in any way. If you do, you might have a chance at something. If he doesn't call you, so what? It's not like you have anything to lose.

idk why I post in these threads

I deserve to be alone

but it hurts so much

>>17425616

My mother always told me:

"Don't find your honey where you make your money."

AND

"If you can't love yourself then you can't love anyone else."

>>17425601
lol Marines. There is no other descriptor for Marines except for "Marines."

Will do comrade wish me luck!

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>>17425611
>>17425612
>>17425614
Thank you so much.

I've worked myself up over this for so long that I can't function properly. It doesn't help that I don't know if he Likes me or is just friendly. If I don't hear back, at least I can cross it off and be normal again.

Thank you again.

>>17425625
everyone has their own life

I don't want to intrude

>>17425566
Underated post

>>17425643

Using the word 'Intrude' isn't a good mentality, comrade.

You'll find someone who you can and will complement; not lean or depend on.

Like the Ying-Yang.

Or some shit, I don't know.

Get on some meds and into some therapy.

>>17425512
I love gardening and I would happy for a guy to have similar interests. If you think gardening is too girly, you could say you're into landscaping.

>>17425566
You are awesome.

>>17425668
idk anymore

I just do my work and go home

and lately I've been asked to do extra work from home a lot, all unpaid (salary with no overtime pay)

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>ex girlfriend/first love messages me two years later(recently)
>ignore the messages

Am I doing the right thing? I don't want to get sucked into an emotional spiral that leads to depression again.

>>17425687

Fuck no, ignore that cunt.

She had her chance and for whatever reason she jumped ship.

Now she's on the rebound and going back to old reliable.

If you go back to her it'll end again; most likely the same way too.

>>17425512
>Girls: Do you think it's weird for a guy to like gardening and growing lots of plants? Every girl that knows I like gardening thinks its weird because it's usually a girl thing


*shrug* i'm a dude but flowers are basically my career. In actually, it's family business, wholesale flower imports, basically the guys who grow/transport/supply chains and retailers, but all anyone not in the business ever imagines when I say I work in flowers is I make arrangements in some small boutique, and idgaf enough to correct them.

I've also never had a girl respond negatively even under the assumption I AM someone you'd find at a flower shop. If anything, I've gotten more positive responses than negative where they'll get kind of excited and start asking me questions about different flowers.

I also like cooking, love baking, have an eye for aesthetics/fashion/color coordination/etc, (of course I also have experience in half a dozen martial arts, like motorsports, love craft beer with a passion, and a bunch of other "manly" and "femnine" qualities or whatever the fuck). But that's all irrelevant really, What matters more is that you're confident in and genuinely enjoy what you're doing.

Heck I've admittedly been called weird a few times, but not for the flower thing, and it's always said in a kind of shy/attracted way.

Your hobby 'aint why you're not getting laid.

If you're THAT self-conscious about it, see the OP:
>complexes are always a turn-off.

>>17425687
Stay strong. Don't reply. Move forward.

>>17425708

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJbrTgUL0Dk

>>17425701
>>17425708

My gut instinct was telling me the same. I guess I just needed a solid answer from someone who isn't a mutual friend. Thanks.

Guys, would it be easier for you to get over a girl you really like or might love by her cutting you out and avoiding you and everyone you knew together completely or talking it out but having to see each other and each others friends every day?

Back story is I'm very mentally ill and it's easier for me to do the first thing but it makes me really sad not knowing what he's going through.

>>17425716

Yes.

Out of sight, out of mind.

Her house, her phone number/contact, her friends, her facebook, her walking path at college, her work.

Don't see her for a few months and you won't remember a fucking thing about her.

Regardless of how much you love her/worship her.

>>17425687

To give you a less /r9k/ or obviously burned as fuck response (no offence to other guy but you obviously got a chip on your shoulder there):

If you think you can have a rationale/non-emotional discussion with her and get some closure, sure--but that doesn't at all sound like what's going on in your case.

SO, if you do not think you can talk to her without negative emotions coming up yet, don't.

You need to move on. Until you're in a place to do that, prioritize yourself. You've got to obligation to talk to her until you're in a place where you can actually do so.

I guess as an analogy: don't pick at open wounds that haven't healed, but also don't be so afraid looking at it/dealing with it that it becomes a psychological trauma and causes you to flinch every time it comes up.

Look at yourself and ask yourself if you can deal, if you can't, there's no shame in doing that later when you're more healed.

>>17425725

Nigger, go write a self help book on relationships.

He needs the cold hard truth even if he doesn't want to hear it.

That's what true comrades do, comrade.

>>17425716
>Guys, would it be easier for you to get over a girl you really like or might love by her cutting you out and avoiding you and everyone you knew together completely or talking it out but having to see each other and each others friends every day?

This depends entirely on the individual, and it also depends upon the specific situation and the hostility of the breakup.

Even so, I'm going to make up a bullshit statistic here, but I think it's like 75% of guys where it's better for them to cut and be done.

Like if they don't, they just can't get over it and start gravitating back.

That being said, even for that other 25%--unless it was something that was super shallow/short/meaningless--even they'd at least need a few weeks of space to allow their brains to basically rewire and get used to not being a couple. (and I think this is true for women as well by the way. )

>>17425722
I thought this. I'm the girl. He's a really mature guy but judging from his social medias his mood has changed, he hasn't been doing anything, I haven't spoken with him for at least a month. I saw him and friends today panicked and quickly left that's why I am now considering contacting him.. I miss my friends too.

Should I just stay away?

>>17425743

Yep, he's a loose cannon now.

Cut them loose and start fresh.

>>17425625
>"Don't find your honey where you make your money."
so dont find relationships in where you work?

>>17425498
Meeting her at 1, no end time.

>>17425513
I'm just planning a lot of things, worried that she might be bored. There's a bunch of things going on in my city, 3 different festivals and a drum performance in different areas of the city.

I guess I'll let her choose what she wants to do, I can't imagine she will be entertained just chilling at a coffee place...Just being insecure i guess

To women, if you could swap genders with a sexual partner for a night what would you want to try?

>>17425512
I'm a guy but that seems to be a weird thing to be ass blasted over. I like to double dip my hobbies and use my garden for cooking.

Guys, what do you think of this guy's situation >>17425166?

As in, what are your opinions of him and her and the situation in general, not about giving advice to OP? I'm not one of those retards who tries to push their separate thread in the ATOGA threads

>>17425944
I think he's a fucking moron for having fallen prey to the stupidest, most cliche script you see in porn.
Don't mix business with women. You will always, always get fucked over.
Heck, I'm a fucking NEET without a job and I know not to do that.

>>17425716
I'm going trough this situation right now, a girl is doing the first thing to me, personally it sucks and I'm more depressed than I've ever been, it's been months and i still cry over her, i sent her drunken texts and voice messages, i only feel more ashamed every day, if she would just talk to me I'd understand and would feel so much better, the fact that she is ignoring me hurts so much. But that's me.

>>17425944
>Guys, what do you think of this guy's situation
I think he's an idiot for mixing work with pleasure. There are lots of women who like sucking cock that don't work for him.

Meanwhile the woman is basically a whore, trying to offer sexual services for benefits.

>>17425716
Yeah I'd rather not talk to her obviously. If you want to hang out with friends and they want to invite him, I'd just explain that you're trying to keep some distance because of the breakup. Most people will be willing to work around that.

Would it be a turn off if I told a girl I respect her?

>>17425876
Yes, my mom says that too.

>>17425967
Just because you want to say something doesn't mean you should. Timing is important.

>>17425687
It's ok to let go.

>>17425543
They're just not into you. You also might come off as arrogant.

>>17425512
Not weird.

>>17425258
Don't plan too hard. Go with the flow, be willing to let go of plans depending on circumstances.

Girls,

I just play videogames with friends whenever I'm not working. That's basically my only hobby other than martial arts which I no longer do in a proper institution, but still still keep up to date with via self-training. I don't go to the gym or anything, but I still keep in.. semi-shape, I guess.

What's my chance of finding a chick who just lets me do what I do, doesn't bitch about it, and isn't going to fucking cheat? Naturally, I'm not a social retard and all that. I can talk to chicks fine and can do the sex whenever they need it, but don't really care too much about it myself. I'm just not the kind who goes on 40km mountain hikes for funsies.

>>17426016
So... you don't even want to spend time with your girlfriend? You want a girl who'll let you play video games and you'll have sex with her every now and then, but beyond that, you won't really have much to do with her?

>>17426062
I never said anything about not spending time with her, just that my own hobbies are limited. A lot of people say you need a million hobbies and tons of options to keep people interested. If she wanted to go to a beach or something, sure, I'd do that. It's just that I don't suddenly want to go bowling or clubbing, or anything of that sort by default.
Basically, I want low maintenance, no drama, not going to think I'm some disgusting neckbeard nerd just because I play videogames even though I support myself and have a job.

>>17426067
>I don't suddenly want to go bowling or clubbing, or anything of that sort by default.

>I just play videogames

>What's my chance of finding a chick who just lets me do what I do, doesn't bitch about it, and isn't going to fucking cheat?

Fucking slim m8. A girl, a normal one at that, will not be happy just being alone most of the time or watching you play video games. You need to date as in going outside to do things.

>>17426116
Let me make this part clear. She won't think of you as a neckbeard, she'll think that you don't care about her at all. You have to make some allowances in relationships. If you can't then don't be in one.

>>17426116
>>17426122
That's some pretty biased advice you're giving him. There are plenty of girls into gaming nowadays. Even he found one of them he'd probably be find. Likewise, there are plenty of quiet types who don't like to out, either.

>>17426124
If he found one of them he'd probably be fine*

>>17426124
>There are plenty of girls into gaming nowadays. Even he found one of them he'd probably be fine.
Doesn't mean they just play games. Doesn't mean leg work an courting can be pushed a side. Not to mention he saidbhe wants to play with friendsand do his own thing.
>Likewise, there are plenty of quiet types who don't like to out, either.
Yes but that is slim and still requires dating. You can't just invite them to your place.

>>17426135
Yeah it sucks how women have so little variance in personality.

>>17426135
Well, I'm not a chick, but that's basically all my gf does. She plays games, sometimes we go for a walk in the park, maybe once a week, but she always says we both know being home and playing vidya would be more fun. But going out sometimes is fun.

He can't have my chick, but it's basically what he's looking for. Met her through Tinder, funnily enough, and my profile literally just said "I just want someone to play videogames with and potentially date". Intentionally autistic, not expecting anything, yet it still worked.

You don't necessarily have to go out to date people. 'Dating' is literally just getting to know someone's personality. As a person who likes playing games, that could be done just by talking in voice on Skype, or something, not even having to meet. Don't have to go out for an expensive dinner or spend five dates doing shit neither of you actually want to do, when you just want to get to know the person. A stretch for some, I know, but it doesn't mean it's out of bounds.

Is sports and politics important in a relationship?

Man here, never interested in sports or politics, not that extremely.

>>17426148
politics might be. it might lead to problems in the future if you have clashing political views. as for a smalltalk topic? no, not at all

>>17425566
You're awesome.

>>17425512
No! I would love it.
I like cooking and it would be awesome to have someone take care of my little herbs. I kill them every couple of months

>>17426148
For me, yes.
I watch a ton of sports on TV and I love discussing about politics.
Wouldn't dump someone for liking a different team or for having different political opinions (as long as he's reasonable and doesn't get upset when discussing).
For other girls I know, not as much.

>>17426174
Ive come from the future and the Detroit Lions are going to be super bowl champs. You heard it here first.

>>17425574
Not the other guy, but similar problem.
Got their friends to like me. Except their friends like me too much so now the girl says she doesn't want to choose me over them.
What do?

Meeting up with my Ex after a year since we broke up. Matched on Tinder and she was quite kind and didn't seem angry to talk to me.

Gave me time to think about things breaking up with her and realise what mistakes I made. My first love and all that jazz.

Do I just bee myself and after we're about to part, should I ask to meet up for a drink if it goes well?

Told a girl I liked her, started talking to her almost daily. Asked when she was free and she said tom, suggested we go do some random things. Eventually said in texts while we were planning times

>"Just to clarify so it's not awkward,...This is not a date, I need a fun friend to hang out with and would appreciate help getting things done... Ok"

After explaining I asked about her free time for serious time I eventually ask if I should give up on pursuing her and she says

>"I know what you mean, I would say dont give up..Not yet"

So I dont know..I mean we talk everyday, and she initiates conversations most of the time, we've only known each other for a month or so and only met in person twice, I've been direct with my intentions for her, but still "this is not a date", if she was into me wouldnt it be an easy date? But still....dont give up? Like what, do I actually have a chance and she just wants to test the water or is it like oh why would I want to lose an admirer?

>>17426221
>and she initiates conversations most of the time

She sounds interested in you, mate. You have a chance to be more than friends in my opinion. Do you see her as girlfriend material? If so, just go with the flow.

>>17426228
Yeah shes great, Im just kind of like oh...not a date..well I guess thats that...But then dont give up? Confusing..idk maybe im her validation, her self esteem boost or something. Like cant relationships be like hell yeah i want to go on a date with you or something. I dunno. Maybe she wants to take it slow? We've never hung out one on one before, always with the people I met her through so yeah...idk man

>>17426234
So go on this date and see how you feel being around her. At the end before you both part ways and you feel like you had an amazing day and want to see her again, suggest if she'd like to meet up again sometime. Then plan some activity together like mini golf or shit like that.

Like I said, she sounds interested in you just for the fact she's initiating contact with you a lot of the times. You should peruse her if you end up enjoying the day together.

>>17426242
Yeah, I just hope shes initiating conversations cause she likes talking and not because im some kind of sympathy or ego boost you know. But ill go. She'd message me in the morning, say good morning and we'd have a conversation all throughout the day...Idk though, sometimes shes really suggestive about relationship things, then not. Its perplexing. I think ultimately Im gonna get a no, just seems like that from her actions(being too nice). Oh well

>>17425985

Really?

My mom is a total cunt but I love her to death and every so often she has good advice.

And loans me money for car repairs.

>>17425669

>Landscaping

That implies he's some Mexican who cuts trees and trims hedges.

Tell girls you're a botanist; that'll get in there like swimware.

>>17425967

Yes; something thing need to be left unsaid.

Actions speak louder than words.

Just respect her.

Hopefully, she's not too dense to realize that you do in fact, respect her.

>>17426195

Ah shit, you forgot that grillz get jelly, catty and competitive all at once almost instantly.

Stop talking to and hanging out with her friends and tell her that you thought it was important to you to make a good impression with her friends but that she's the one you want, not them.

Buy her something too and give it to her when you say that.

She'll be putty in your hands.

Bf showed me a pic on his phone and it converted into him going trough his gallery and showing me all the silly pics he has on it. So i got mine too and we searched my gallery for funny stuff. He asked why i only have so little pics saved (about 600, he has 5000) and i said it was because i frequently transfer them to my external hard disk and delete what i don't use anymore. He took my phone and went to "recently deleted" and deleted all the pics in there. Was he low key snooping if i have "weird pics" on my phone that i deleted? Does he mistrust me? Wtf...

>>17426249
It sounds like you're thinking the worst is gonna happen.

I would suggest after your second date if the first one goes well, you need to definitely pop the question of "so do you see us going any further?" Then say that you enjoy spending time with her and want to be with her.

Women are hard people to understand but from what you say, I get the impression she does like you and if she's hinting about relationship stuff then it tells me she'd wanna be in a relationship with you.

Go out and enjoy the date. If she's laughing and playful with you then you're doing something right.

>>17425687

I guess it depends what you want.

I hooked up with an ex-girlfriend once. Just banged and smoked some weed but after I was done with her. Wasn't very fulfilling though.

I was definitely in a place where I wasn't interested in rekindling anything, so it was easy to not get caught up in it.

>>17426290

In this day and age, it's pretty standard.

To look for any nudes you might have of yourself, any sex pics with other guys or saved cock pics of other guys.

He's just being cautious.

BUT you need to tell him that if he's going to do that then you have right to look through his phone.

That's fair and respectful; if he won't let you then something shady is going on.

Girls,
Are fingernails a thing you look at, at all? My previous gf got me into a habit of properly maintaining my nails, whereas before I tended to just bite them when they got too long. Wanted to make sure future partners might not find it feminine, or something.

>>17426297

It's hard for most people, especially guys, to see their ex-girlfriends and not feel the desire to rekindle.

Or vice-verse, once a guy has sex with his ex-girlfriend then they tend to get emotionally attached again.

I don't know, it's weird.

I dated my girlfriend for 5 years and we broke up in January; if I were to see her again, it's be a toss up.

I'd be happy to see her again and her blowjobs were amazing but she did throw me out of our condo that I spent a shit load of money furnishing, upgrading and repairing so that would hamper any possibly feelings I still had for her from coming back.

>>17426303
>to look through his phone
i don´t have any desire to do that...

it just struck me as odd that he might have been looking for stuff like nudes (that he didn´t receive or pics i received). why does he mistrust me and how do i get him to trust me more?

>>17426309
i definietly care about your hands and fingers. especially if you intend to get them near my genitals. uneven nails and rough skin just feels like shit and if they are dirty that´s pretty gross

>>17426322
Is it something you would specifically look for if you were on a date with someone, or would it be more an addition that you look into later?

>>17425566
got any pics?
sounds amazing

>>17426346

It's late but I'll take some tomorrow.

I had one when Plantys tentacles were six feet long and I started draping them over the furniture.

But alas, they were on my old H/D that my ex-girlfriend kept.

The cunt.

>>17426358
thanks man

i think every dude should have something like you have your plants
in the end the only one accompanying us when we´re alone is ourselves

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>>17426345
depends. if your hands look like pic related i definitely will reconsider you touching me.
but i would let not perfectly manicured hands slip if you do manual labour. but if they are too long and obviously not washed then it will gross me out.

>>17426310
I'm in that predicament now. I'm seeing my ex today after not speaking/seeing her for a year since we broke up.

I've been on the odd date or two but nothing happened after them and she's sadly been on my mind the whole time. She was my first love which makes it hard.

>>17426367
Oh, no, like I said, I actually properly look after my nails. They're incredibly well kept, in my ex's words. But thanks.

Women, what are your thoughts on radical feminists?

Also, what are you gonna do about it

>>17426403
i think it´s just insecure girls that need something to "belong to". hating on something together makes you feel invincible. just take a look at the people that join radical movements everywhere (neo naziz, isis,..)

>Also, what are you gonna do about it
the same you do about other radical groups. try to soften the impact they have by not encouraging them and trying to counter them if possible. then hope they won´t fuck over your personal life and leave you alone. you can´t "stop" them. there will always be idiots that carry those believes further. sure, the difference is that feminists are socially pretty accepted and also have impact on new laws and such, but you have a right to vote too and if you don´t use it i don´t want to hear any complaints.

>>17426368

>First love

Fucking brutal, man.

Look, I assume you're young.

I'm 30 and I still remember my first love at 15.

I would buy her Love Spell at Victoria's Secret mall, sneak in through her window at night and we would make out and take off all of our clothes except her panties to grind all night; all while listening to Norah Jones and Coldplay.

I remember it like it was yesterday and it was 15 fucking years ago.

You'll have other loves in your life, better ones, worse ones and hopefully one that truly makes you happy.

Fights and breakups happen but if you two really did love each other you would have made up within days.

A few years ago my girlfriend and I had a nasty fight and I told her it was done; I didn't hear from her for six days, I it nearly killed me. I felt so empty inside, hollow, sad, mad at myself.

But then she stopped ignoring my texts and I saw her in person; I spent two hours talking it out with her but we patched up in the end.

TL;DR You're young; move forward.

>>17426322

I had a bad experience fingering a girl when I was in junior high, I think I just pinched her labia but it really stopped me from doing anything but running girls clits.

>15 years later...

I did fist my first girl two months ago and it was not appealing at all.

Do girls have problems with hairloss?

24yo male with balding allopecia. Found this http://www.basescience.com/2016/08/04/the-doctors-way-to-treat-hair-loss-no-alternative-medicine-or-waiting-for-results/

>>17426310

>It's hard for most people, especially guys, to see their ex-girlfriends and not feel the desire to rekindle.

Admittedly, this relationship had ended with me in a fit of rage crushing her with anger then stomping off and going radio silence.

Then I leveled up with a prettier, kinder new GF.

It was years later I saw her again. Honestly I was more interested in getting high than anything else.

>>17426423
>I did fist my first girl two months ago and it was not appealing at all.
the point of fisting is not that it should be appealing...

>>17426428
if being completely honest, yes, it´s not a turn on. but it´s not a deal breaker. especially if i am already dating someone i love and he starts to go bald.
after all, there´s still the possibility to buzz.
your best bet is to make sure every one of your hairs gets properly cared for. you can achieve that by making sure blood flow is stellar and your whole organism works like a perfectly kept machine. iow, enough sleep, reduce stress, eat balanced, exercise, get fresh air, have good hygiene and make sure you adress health problems asap. what will help most with hairloss is massaging your scalp. everytime you wash your hair, make sure you really get some fresh blood to the roots.

So I went on a date with this girl and I can't help but feel rejected. The date itself was okay, went on a walk and a movie, but there wasn't much physical contact. As I was leaving she said she wanted to see me again but there was no kiss.

I know some girls don't kiss on the first date which is fine, but I didn't think she was into me regardless. Should I take a shot and go for second date or just move on?

>>17426463
What do you want to do anon? Not every first date is an explosive orgasm of attraction and chemistry. Just take the next step towards what you want. Most women are pretty passive and will follow your lead. If you want physical contact you are responsible for taking a chance and engaging. If it's another date with her ask her. If you want a kiss, go for a kiss. Less thinking and more doing.

>>17426484
I see your point.
I'm not very experienced with dating so I was pretty anxious. At the end of it I tried to slightly lean in for a kiss and she just shook her head no so I felt like that was the nail on the coffin.

>>17425934
I think I'd want to experience basic things from the other point of view
Masturbating, penetrating, getting a blowjob

>>17425716
Ghosting is bad m'kay let him know the reason

>>17426503

>at the end of it I tried to slightly lean in for a kiss

OK kudos...strong work. You tried.

How would you handle next time? Women are hardwired to be selective so "no" might mean "keep trying" (in a gentlemanly manner of course).

I guess you'll have to find you're own style. Personally I'd play it off, make a joke, lighten the mood a little, and try to get her to smile / laugh about the silliness of it all. Maybe play around with answering "yes", lock eyes, do not budge, maintain frame. I suppose it all depends on the vibe and if you feel you can pull it off.

Great job getting a date and going for the kiss though! You are stepping up.

>>17425512
No, that's a great thing to be into.

>>17425934
Fuck yeah, absolutely. That would really improve my point of view fantasies.

>>17425967
If you mean in the "everyone deserves respect" way, yeah that's awkward.
If you mean that you respect -her- a lot for the person she is, like admiring someone, she'd be an idiot to be turned off by that.

How long can a female last without sex?

2-3 months?

>>17426654
>reading this while having gone without sex for over two years now

Fuck you.

>>17426658

I'm a guy and it's been 2 years for me too if that helps

>>17426665
Slightly, I guess.

This is a question for the females.

Do you think girls will find it weird that I have not had sex for almost 3-4 years and that I have only had 3 sexual partners?

Each girl was a really long term relationship and after my last one I just did not really date that much.
I tried to kinda go on blind dates or POF but the girls never really seemed to interest me enough to stick around and I never slept with them even though they practically threw themselves at me because I did not want any drama and I was not really comfortable with them.

I decided to try dating again and have been on POF and Tinder and I mentioned to a girl I was talking to about my sexual history and she was just baffled about it so it kind of got me wondering if it is a turn off or what the general view on it would be?

Sorry if this has been asked before

>>17426678
Nah, that sounds very normal. I wouldn't explicitly mention that it's been three/four years, though, just say it's been a while.

Everything is going to seem weird to someone, but that means little by itself.

>>17426686
thanks for the reply and ya I try not to mention how long it has been unless its specifically ask, but obviously when I actually do end up having sex it will be very obvious it has been a long time when I last a whole whopping 5 seconds

>>17426690
It's impolite to probe something about details for something so personal. If you just say it's been some time everyone will interpret that according to their own idea of what's average/normal. No big deal.

>>17426678
I wouldn't mind it at all.
Honestly, I prefer being with someone who doesn't fuck around.

>>17426678
Well I think POF and Tinder are not the places you want to be looking at for a serious relationship.
Also to directly answer your question I think that a girl who wants the same things as you will appreciate that you're a one woman kind of man and that you are mature enough to have had serious relationships and no sleeping around

>>17426463
If you like her and want to see her again then what do you have to lose by asking if she wants to go out again? If she says yes, great, you have a chance to get to know each other more. If she says no, fine, you have closure of the situation and can move on to the next one

>>17426654
21 years and counting kek.

Now if you mean "sexual release" then it depends. I go through periods of time where I want it daily, but others where I can go half a year without even thinking about it.

>>17426678
Thank you for all the reply's to my question. Definitely put me at ease.

>>17426403
They're mostly children, or worse children in adult bodies. They just want something to blame for their own doings to make their life shitty, because its easier than, you know, actually fixing your problems or becoming a better person.
What am I gonna do about them?
Ignore them. Don't give them the satisfaction of the attention they're trying to get out of you. Go vote, so that none of their bullshit can ever get passed into law. Enjoy life and let them wallow in their own piss and shit and cry about it.
I live by the golden rule of ignore them and they'll get bored and go away eventually.

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Girls, my new girlfriend is curious about how many girls I've slept with and stuff (she's a virgin).

I didn't really want to talk about it, not because I'm uncomfortable with my sexual history but because when we're cuddling together all I can think about is her. I don't want to be thinking back to other girls.

Is that weird? Is it better for me to just talk about it with her? I had an ex who seemed obsessed with my past sex life so maybe that's why I'm not too keen to talk about it.

>>17426763
I for one do not like to hear about my bf's women history. It's fair that you let her know that you have been with other women but try to leave it at that. Make her understand that you want to focus on her and you don't want her to have to think about that fact that you have been with someone else. Also it will do nothing positive for your relationship.

I hope that made some sense

>>17426747

>sexual release

Like fingering or dildoing yourself?

>>17426763
well you can express you don't want to talk about it, and mybe include that bit about how it's because you only want to think of her (however to me this sounds over the top cheesy and kinda fake) But understand she may feel like you're hiding something
Put yourself in her shoes, she's a virgin, and I assume she knows you're not. She may be feeling insecure, like she won't be enough for you/wont be as good as what you're used to. She may be concerned you've fucked a thousand women and have god knows what.

If you don't want to get into it, that's completely fair, but def go into why she's asking. If it is that shes feeling like she won't be any good for someone as experienced as you work on that with her. Reassure her that experience/physical skill isn't nearly as important as the connection you've formed, if you actually believe that.

>>17426787
Yeah, masturbation. Clitorally to be specific.

Frankly though, if you only consider PIV actual sex then as far as I'm concerned I can go my whole life without it. I get nothing out of penetration, I never actually desire it for myself.

>>17426780
It does make sense.

Like I mentioned, she's a virgin so I'm wondering how much that has to do with it. She seemed really moved when I told her I didn't want to pressure her into sex and that I'd wait for her to be ready if/when, so I'm trying to figure out why she wants to know about my previous sex life.
I mean I love her and I don't care about being abstinent for a while if we're together, but like you said I'm concerned bringing certain things up will do nothing positive for us.

She said she had really pushy previous boyfriends that wanted sex, so the night I told her I'd wait for her to be ready and wouldn't demand anything of her she almost cried. I just want to figure her viewpoint out better.

>>17426788
Ok. Maybe it sounds cheesy but the connection we do have is more important to me than sex. I've been through my share of rotten relationships and meeting her I feel like has changed my life (and she's actually told me the same for her).

>>17426800
That's really sweet. I'm sure that she is so curious because she is a virgin and knows you're not. But for her own good she doesn't need to know the details. I thinkthe longer you are together and the closer you get she will have less of a desire to know your relationship history and will only want to focus on your future. Good luck :)

Fellow guys and girls

Is it wrong I've had sex with 3 different girls this year. But never told my friends who still think I'm a Virgin? They keep trying to convince me to go out and get laid. Which, I am. Just for some reason I've never told them about it. I don't know why Tbh. But I've just never told them.

>>17426763
Tell it to her exactly like that. You get to decide what you want to share. Although I have to say that I can understand where she's coming from, if I'm into someone I love to hear any sexual story featuring them..

>>17426800
Alright, you're a better guy than most so hats off for that. Then yeah, I'd just try to discuss why she's concerned. That seems to be the root of the issue, I doubt she's just passively curious and asked for shits and grins. Find out the deeper meaning for the question and deal with that, because I agree with you, just answering it not only won't solve the issue but would probably just make it worse.
I highly suspect she's probably nearing being ready to sleep with you, but she's feeling a tad insecure about doing so and want's to be "good enough" for you. This is just coming from another virgin girl who's been in a similar boat. Although my bf at the time was a "vaginal sex virgin" too, he had been around with oral and whatnot before while I was a completely blank canvas who hardly even masturbated. I was really nervous about anything sexual with him and did feel kinda inadequate.
Like funny story, my first handjob ever I felt the precum and thought he came, since I had never really experienced how much cum is supposed to come out you know? So I stopped and basically blue balled him on accident lol. He was a sport though.
So yeah, just try to east her insecurity if that is the case, and when the time comes give her lots of encouragement lol. Verbalize when it feels good so she knows she's doing a good job.

>>17426832
why would it be wrong? it´s none of their busines. i didn´t tell anyone i lost my virginity for a long time too.

>>17426832
I'm always paranoid that guys get together and evaluate the girls they've had sex with afterwards. I think it's grand that you don't disclose the details with your mates.

Nothing wrong with it in my eyes.

>>17426847
A lot of them do

Sensitive question for boys here but if you know a girl has dated a black guy is that a turnoff?

I've only ever had three serious boyfriends, and I recently told my current bf about them. He seemed unsurprised until I told him about my last bf, who was black. We only dated for three months and never had sex (he was emotionally distant and wouldn't spend time with me).

My current bf is really sweet and I adore him, but I could see he made a face when he found out my ex was black. I know he isn't like a crazy racist (he has black friends) but I feel like he was bugged by it. It kind of scares me because he's the first serious boyfriend I've had that really seems to care about me and treat me well.

Could it be I'm just imagining things? Does race matter with dating?

>>17426852
Thanks, now I'm paranoid again.

>>17426845
>>17426847

Well i asked cause sex is a huge topic for guys. It seems like it comes up every conversation. They always try to pressure me to get laid cause they keep saying "dude you don't know what your missing. You've been through even shit in your life you deserve to get some quality pussy"

It's sort of fun playing the beta of the ground tho

>>17426861
I'm not a guy but man, if someone's really got a problem because you dated a guy of another race I really don't think you need them in your life lol.
They're probably one of those immature robots that's all about how "Women will never love 'small' white dicks when they can have black horsecocks, wah".

>>17426821
Thank you!

>>17426838
You do? I've known girls that got jealous or disgusted by it so maybe that's in my mind too.

>>17426841
That's what I'm going to do then.
When she gave me a handjob for the first time and I verbalized with her then, guiding her through what felt good and and how I enjoyed what she was doing. It really did encourage her, to the point where she got me >really< excited by whispering in my ear "Are you ready for it?" when I got close to cumming. Needless to say it set me off.
Thank you for the advice.

>>17426861
Dating bad people is if he was a bad person and you stayed, yes. But you didn't stay so no.
Having friends from X race doesn't mean you are not racist; there is this expression where i live: He is a black man with a white soul.
People who say that are racist but they are friends with their "white soul" black guys.
>>17426862
It's reality and you have to deal with it, many people are shit and social pressure doesn't make it any better.

>>17426883
Eh, if its bothering you ad they're being annoying about it maybe just say "hey, I'm not a virgin you know? That's all I care to say about it though"
And honestly you may need new friends lol. They sound like dudebros.

>>17426861

To me, yes it would be a turn off.

>>17426861
It might bug him but it'll probably pass. If you're American there is a bit of a stigma about white girls and black guys, but if he cares about you he'll forget it and move on.

In my opinion his reaction was probably less that caring that you dated a black guy and more what his friends might say if they knew.

>>17426886
Lol man she sounds a lot like me. I was nervous about even touching a dick at first but damn, I realized how much fun it is and really got into it myself too. Honestly handjobs are what I miss most about being in a relationship hah.
Best of luck to ya though friend.

>>17426889

no it's not really bothering me. I mean, it is sort of fun being the Beta of my group of friends. Although, they have no idea. I just feel kind of weird because I'm keeping it a secret. When everyone in my group is really open about this stuff. I don't really have any reason to not tell them. It's not about like, trust or anything. I just haven't told them. And still act like a virgin around them..

I think I'm fucked in the head

>>17426861
>Could it be I'm just imagining things?
No, men have standards and backbones.
>Does race matter with dating?
Yes, it shows desperation, weakness, lack of pride, and is just plain disgusting. He will never look at you the same way again, and I feel bad for him for wasting his time on you.

>>17426907
>desperation, weakness, lack of pride, and is just plain disgusting

Different anon but how do you get these?

Is it desperation or lack of pride to date a black doctor instead of a white fast food employee?

>>17426909
He's probably a sexless /pol/cuck

>>17426909
>Is it desperation or lack of pride to date a black doctor instead of a white fast food employee?

>black doctor

kek

>>17426917
keking doesn't get you out of being unable to answer questions, son

>>17426886
Yeah. It's an individual matter, I know some people don't like hearing anything about their partner's past. But to me it is just exciting to picture, like a hot fantasy with them that actually happened. And there's something really intimate to me about being cuddled up together and someone telling you about their sex life (or fantasies or whatever) openly.

>>17425512
Full disclosure:
> guy
> not into gardening

But i can see why someone would be, guys included. Tending to something, shaping its growth to suit your taste with a beautiful end result. I can imagine me doing it in an alternate universe.

Asian American girls: do you want to have tan or pale skin?

>>17426980
Jesus dude, you still haven't read the memo?

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>>17426928
Be honest, miscegenation (racemixing) - having children with that not of your race, do you consider it a non-selfish act?

You're literally giving into a meme ideology, how can we not look down on you when you have the intent of bringing more inferior humans into existence?

You know he'll leave you or chimp out and get in prison, enjoy being a single mom.

>>17426986
>You're literally giving into a meme ideology
ironic from the /pol/ack

you still didn't answer the questions

>>17426985
What is the memo?

>>17426901
Yeah I think so too, because what you're saying is conflicting to me.
>its not really bothering me
>Just feel kinda weird
Tell them or don't, its your call man.

Is it a mistake putting a like on a girl on a dating site when you already know her irl? I see her on rare occasions since we hang out with different people.

>>17426999
Nah man, asking her out in real life would be much weirder, who does that, right? Pff

>>17426861
>if you know a girl's dated a black guy would it turn you off?
Wouldn't touch her with someone else's dick.

>>17426999
This >>17427027
My rule of thumb is usually when I see someone I know irl on a dating app, I ignore them. After all, if I were interested in them, why would I need to talk to them on a dating app? I already know them.
Now, if this girl really is just "I've seen her before and we've engaged in small talk once", then maybe it's ok since you are basically strangers.

Girls:
My dick is 6.5 inches, the girth isn't great (never measured it but it's kind of "pencil dick"). Is this a deal breaker for you guys?

>>17427075
If I like you enough to see your cock, I won't care about its size.

Also, read the fucking OP.

>>17427075
I only have sex with guys with a bigger dick than mine so yes it is.

>>17426909
In truth, you've just sort of proved his point. You're insecure enough to try to justify yourself to him. You're weak enough to value the doctor more as a partner because he has more money. And you have so little pride that the only determine factor you could come up with was income, implying you'd sell your pussy to the highest bidder, so to speak.

>>17427094
>different anon
>"proved his point" by challenging him to actually explain his "point"

2/10 try harder

>>17427100
>2/10 try harder
The sad part is, you actually think this was a good "argument". In trying to get him to prove his point, she proved it for him.

>>17427107
>she

The sad thing is your post makes no sense and you believe that having to explain a "point" that consists of nothing but ad homs is "proving" it.

Really sad.

>>17427094
Not that I really want to get caught up in this shit storm but why is it so wrong to value a partner that has career goals and will actually make enough money to possibly raise a family on?
Why is it so wrong to be turned off by the idea of living in poverty, even with a great upstanding guy (though I'd argue no great upstanding guy is going to be content with working at a mcfats forever), with no hope of ever not living paycheck to paycheck barely scraping by. Or in some cases, not even making enough to live?
It not about "Hurr I only want a riiiicch guy who will spoil me and pamper me with only the finest diamonds and wine", its about "Uh hey, I want to be able to actually afford a house of my own one day, to put a possible child through school, to not live in fear of medical expenses or emergencies, and maybe retire before I'm 90, or be able to retire at all?"

>>17427127
Are you mentally disabled? If that post made no sense to you, then you're outright illiterate.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery but I ask in future that you think of your own posts instead of regurgitating mine back at me.

>>17427143
>trying to stir further from the point of debate instead of answering questions

Even sadder. I get you can't answer shit but just give it up instead of pretending you ever had valid points.

>>17427154
You didn't ask any questions, you invalid. Consider suicide.

>>17427160
>sentences ending with question marks aren't questions
>getting edgy

Are you mentally disabled? If that post made no sense to you, then you're outright illiterate :)

>>17427139
>has career goals
How do you know that fast food employee isn't working part time to fund himself through college? Why are you trying to immediately start a family with a man the second you get into a relationship with him? No planning involved there at all?

>Why is it so wrong to be turned off by the idea of living in poverty, even with a great upstanding guy
You're proving his point again about desperation and lack of pride. Also proving my point about selling your pussy to the highest bidder.

>It not about "Hurr I only want a riiiicch guy who will spoil me and pamper me with only the finest diamonds and wine"
This would be believable if you hadn't already shit on a "great upstanding guy" just for not making enough money to satisfy your demands.

>>17427169
Oh I get it now. You're the one who asked the "black doctor" question. See, you got me confused because you're too retarded to understand how to use greentext. I answered your question. You replied "try harder" and, after only now being able to understand your retarded use of greentext, called me a samefag.

Do better.

>>17427154
He clearly did answer. Girl was considering daiting a wealthier man over another. The anon criticized it rightly. Good bait but straight forward.

>>17427180
>Oh I get it now
Only took how long? lol

Maybe next time instead of sperging out "u didnt ask a question" you remember the line of conversation you're in, kiddo.

And your meme greentexting of "kek" didn't answer anything, it ignored one question entirely and dodged another.

So like I said, try again. I'm waiting.

>>17427180
>his point

Women: Can you explain chaos theory to me? I don't understand it

>>17427186
>he
>daiting
you didn't answer the other anon at all. saying kek isn't an answer.

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>>17427187
>And your meme greentexting of "kek" didn't answer anything
lrn2reed

See: >>17427094 again.

You illiterate nigger.

>>17427193
Yes, his. You're more paranoid than the /pol/acks are.

>>17427180
>How do you know that fast food employee isn't working part time to fund himself through college
bc that wasnt a part of the hypothetical.
So I'll rephrase it, why is it wrong to want to date a black doctor or a white guy with no ambition in life? Because even though I'm not trying to start a family immediately, I may want to in the future. And if whitey mcfats is never going to go anywhere but mcfats, I clearly can't do that with him.
Why are you dating purely on skin color and nothing else?
>Also proving my point about selling your pussy to the highest bidder.
Kek. Wanting a financially stable future is not selling my pussy. If my choices are live alone on my decent paycheck my whole life, or try to support mr. no ambition on his minimum wage paycheck my whole life, I will choose the former.
>just for not making enough money to satisfy your demands.
So my "demands" of not wanting to be homeless or renting a shitty studio apartment and not affording to eat anything but the free mcfats throw out food his employer gives him are unrealistic? Hmmm.

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>>17427197
You're embarrassing yourself.

>>17427201
>30 seconds in paint
really makes you think....

still didn't answer his question

>>17427201
>See: >>17427094 again.

It's literally nothing. It was addressing the wrong person, and so making the wrong conclusions and vain attempts at points.
You're weak enough to value the white man more as a partner because of his skin color. And you have so little pride that LITERALLY the only determine (?) factor you can base your belief on is skin color, disregarding personality, interests, occupations, etc. You'd sell your pussy over a matter of melanin. Pathetic.

>>17427210
see
>>17427212

You're still not answering questions. Is it that hard for you?

>>17427209
>Why are you dating purely on skin color and nothing else?

He's probably a sexless /pol/cuck that's projecting.

>>17427209
>I'll rephrase it
That's not rephrasing it. That's inventing an entirely new hypothetical in a desperate attempt to be right. Like me saying:

Let me rephrase the question: Why is it wrong to want a white fast food employee working hard to provide for himself and fund his own way through college in order to better his life instead of dating a negligent black doctor who only got his position due to the affirmative action and has already killed 3 people due to negligence?

You know what you're doing. Don't be intellectually dishonest.

>Wanting a financially stable future is not selling my pussy.
That's precisely what it is. You chose your partner solely on how much he earned. You outlined a scenario. Rich man or poor man. You chose rich man. You are the one who created those terms. You could've went for anything else in the world as the determining factor, but you chose income. That speaks volumes about you.

>So my "demands" of not wanting to be homeless or renting a shitty studio apartment and not affording to eat anything but the free mcfats throw out food his employer gives him are unrealistic? Hmmm.
I notice that even in your hypotheticals, you aren't working and instead rely purely on the man to feed and home you.

Interesting.

>>17427212
>>17427223
If you were /pol/, you'd be screaming about the Jews and MKULTRA right now. Instead you're crying about nonexistent samefagging and plugging your ears. Sad sight. The question was answered here: >>17427094 you stupid fucking nigger.

>>17427221
>It was addressing the wrong person
No it wasn't. It's addressing the person who created the hypothetical about a black doctor and a white fast food employee. Illiterate retard.

>Still regurgitating my own posts back at me
Defintiion of insanity and all that.

>>17427231
Ironic, given all that projecting you're doing.

>>17427236
I genuinely thought that was the purpose of they hypothetical at hand.
Of course I'm going to date the better person regardless of race.
Would you do the same though?

I just want a stable home man. I have my own degree and job, I dont want my guy to support me, but nor do i want to support him.

If this thread reaches 65 different posters a new buddha will rise.

>>17427252
>Of course I'm going to date the better person regardless of race.
>better person
See, I'm not sure if you're genuinely not grasping this or you're doing it intentionally. You keep proving my point.

You defined the black man as a "better person" simply because he earns more money than the white man. The only descriptions you gave of these two men, were their jobs. And based solely on their jobs, you decided that the black man was "the better person". That's the whole "selling your pussy to the highest bidder" thing I was getting at.

If you'd said "sweet, kind black doctor" and "ambitionless abusive white fast food employee" then this conversation wouldn't be happening, but you didn't. You chose, free of any outside influence, to define these men purely by their jobs. That's why you come across as weak and lacking pride. That's why you've inadvertently proved the guy right in the first place.

>>17427266
Like it or not buddy, you need money to live. Provided both men are equal in personality, im going to date the one who has ambition for the future, whos going to be a partner with me in footing the bills. I dont expect to be financially supported, nor will i support another person. That responsibility should be shared.
Guess im just a gold digger lmao.

How about i propose a new scenario. Kind wonderful compatable with me in every way black doctor, vs kind wonderful compatable with me in every day white mcfats worker with no desire to go any further in his career.
Same in every way except for race and pospect of the future, im going to pick the better future.
Let me ask again, are you dating solely on race?

>>17427334
>throwing caution to the wind and just going with "Yeah, I do sell my pussy to the highest bidder"
Bold move. Not sure it's paid off here though.

>Once more equating current success with ambition for the future
Are you retarded?

>Guess im just a gold digger lmao
No amount of passive aggressive "lmao"s will change the fact that yes, you are acting like a gold digger.

>How about i propose a new scenario
How about no? You set your terms. You already told us exactly the kind of person you are. No goalpost moving for you.

>I'm going to pick the most money
Gold digger confirmed.

>Let me ask again, are you dating solely on race?
No. This was never once implied.

I recommend quitting while you're behind though. All you've done is continue to dig your grave deeper and deeper with each post you make further proving that original guy right.

>>17427395
Yeah i am gonna quit feeding the troll i guess lol. Youve proven to be rather irrational and ridiculous on your own. Thanks for the lolz, enjoy your poverty while i fuck that bbc you desperately wish you had kek

>>17427195
guy here

Chaos Theory is the 3rd game in the Splinter Cell franchise by ubisoft. It includes new gameplay elements such as the SC-Pistol being able to temporarily disable lights and interrogation for all guards. Highly recommended game if you haven't played it yet

>>17427437
>u-ur a troll
>I've t-totally just been laughing this whole t-time
>B-BBC
What a pathetic concession of defeat. Enjoy the suffocating lack of self-respect, I suppose.

>>17426861
Burn the coal you pay the toll

I hooked up with a guy from tinder a few times who was exactly my type, we had hot sex and got along well and I think I caught feelings HARD

but he went on vacation yesterday and he's not back until after I leave for college across the country.

how do I forget about him and what we could've been QUICK? I don't have time for all this emotion

>>17427445
That wasn't exactly what I was asking about but close enough.
>>17427548
The fastest way to forget something is to get a lobotomy

Do Asian girls look more attractive with or without a tan?

>>17427636
Im thinking without, probably based on your original skin tone

>>17427636
Are you the same person as the other threads?
Because the question is different now.

To females and maybe guys:

If 'average' girls were to comment or say that I am gorgeous, does that mean that very attractive girls would likely think that same thing?

>>17427694
maybe, but the fact that average girls are saying that probably mean you are in fact good looking. i dont get called them and apparently im "average". its a blessing, go for some hot chicks and see

>>17427694
Yes. But a truly attractive girl has a lot of attractive people hitting on her, so your attractiveness wouldn't be all that "special" for them as it is for an "average" girl.

>>17425944
Never stick your dick in anything you work with.
For the same reason, I get annoyed at people that dress slutty at work.

>>17427694
You realize attractiveness is subjective?
You can be a 10/10 to one person and a 1/10 to another. So yeah, it's possible girls you find attractive will also find you attractive, but its also just as possible they wont.

I've got a girl I've known for awhile who I've recently gotten a lot closer to. I won't see her for a couple weeks and when I do I want to ask her out properly. The first place I'll see her is probably at a get together with a lot of mutual friends and so on. Is there any reason I shouldn't go for it then and there? I don't want to waste time pussyfooting around it and I also don't want to be dramatic about it. After some initial chitchat I figure I'll just pull her aside and go hey listen, you're sweet, I want to date you. But I don't necessarily know the difference between abruptness and boldness. That said, in the context of our past flirting it isn't coming out of nowhere, either.

A girl just matched me and sent me a message on tinder saying "are you looking for a hook up". I passed the question back to her. She said "I just brought up with my boyfriend, and I could use some fun".

What should I do?

>>17427798
Go for it dingus.

>>17427806

Random sex is.. Weird tho..

>>17427809
Well if you're not into that, then don't. Case closed.

>>17427798

*broke up

>>17427815

but I also haven't had sex in 5 years. This is a confusing situation.

>>17427819
What the fuck do you expect us to answer for you man? Do you want the no strings attached poon or not? Only you can fucking answer that goddamn.

>>17425687
Ignore the bitch.

>>17427831

Never mind. I think this person is a criminal or something. She said she told me the street name she lives on, and there is literally like nothing on that road. It's some access road behind a warehouse..

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>>17427850
kek bots man, bots.

>>17427857

I'm familiar with bots. But I don't think she is one, because when I ask her a question, she actually answers

Hi guys, these are my posts from yesterday I need more advice please.
>>17425716
>>17425743
Today he messaged me asking me to "come back" I'm too anxious to reply and if I do it will start a long conversation what should I do?

>>17427798

Stab her in the cervix and scramble her fucking ovaries.

In the missionary position, in the dark followed by a firm-handshake with exact two pumps.

Get it done, comrade.

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Women

How do you justify your sexual nature and preferences when they are objectively detrimental for society and the human race as a whole?

>>17427873

He's baiting you because he knows you're mentally ill and move emotionally vulnerable.

Don't respond or else it'll be too late.

You'll miss the good times, the good memories, etc and forget about all the shitty times and bad things he did to you.

You know it to be true.

>>17427873
Tell him why it was over and tell him you are going to cut contact

>>17427881

What about 11 pumps

>>17427885
>How do you justify your sexual nature and preferences when they are objectively detrimental for society and the human race as a whole?
I am not an incubator and I don't exist to breed. I don't think that I have any responsibility to make the human race better by someone's standards.

>>17427873
Did you straight ghost him? Were you guys ever in a relationship? If so, why did you break up/does he know why you've stopped talking to him?

Our situations might be different, but when my gf broke up with me for some really fucking stupid, irrational reasons (tl;dr mental issues made her thinking warped as fuck), being ghosted only made me think I had to try harder to break through the shell she's suddenly put up, when we were once so close, I never did anything wrong, and was often called perfect by her.

Although I ended up maintaining distance for a long time, no matter what I did, even if I was 95% given up on her, there was a 5% that always surfaced every single day making me wonder how to get back with her. What made me really give up was when she told me her reasons, regardless of how dumb or stupid they were. Just avoid saying things that might make him think he has a chance if you really don't plan to give him one. Putting all the blame on your mental issues will probably make him want to 'fix' you, especially if you're really fucked up. That's how it was for me.

Granted, I'm a lot more cold as a result of that and less likely to give a fuck now, so I might not make the same decisions if I was put in the same position, but that was the logic I had and the reasoning I went with when I was in a similar position to him.

tl;dr it's easier for guys to give up on someone when they're ghosted, simply because no interaction = not refreshing your desire for them, but that ghosting person will usually always sit in their mind in some way, and it can eat them away inside. Being told the reasons bluntly and being confirmed he doesn't have a shot will hurt more in the beginning, but it will have less chance of fucking him over for life with regrets and constant thoughts of what he'd lost and didn't uinderstand why.

>>17427885

One of the stupidest fucking questions in this thread.

Go back to the beginning of mankind and look at how men and women survived; those instincts are still ingrained in women today.

Plus location, social norms and other factors come into play.

>>17427888

I'm talking bout the number of handshake pumps not sexual pumps.

Why would the sexual pumps come AFTER the handshake pumps?

>>17427636
Without.

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>>17427885
lol 8/8 b8 m8 I congratul8.

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>>17427636

>>17427888

Random sex is the best because you don't know them personally so you can do whatever you want to them and not feel bad.

>Tell them to finger their pussy and/or ass while she blows you.
>Mouth fucking.
>Dirty talk.
>Videotaping.
>Leaving bruises.
>Hate fucking; if that's your thing.

In the missionary position, the dark, followed by a firm handshake with exactly 2 pumps.

Then have her Uber home (make her pay) and roll over and sleep like a baby knowing you'll never see her again.

>>17427927
I still don't get why someone wouldn't do this stuff to their girlfriend.

>>17427927

But swapping body fluids with some random ass person is gross

>>17427927
> knowing you'll never see her again
until she calls you 2 moths later about the std/baby in her lol

>>17427757

A semi-recent story say that attractiveness has a strong correlation with symmetry; they said based on their testing, Brad Pitt has the most symmetrical face in the world.

I tend to agree.

>>17427938

I got a vasectomy seven years ago.

And I always look at a pussy before I eat and/or fuck it.

No sick pussies for this guy.

And if so, a shot in the ass will clear that right up.

Except herpes, then you're fucked.

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>>17427943
People always go on about how brad pitt is so fucking hot but I honestly dont see it.
He has a wide fat fucking face and weird cheek bones.
I think that kind of symmetry thing works against me. Makes them look like fake manufactured robots. I want nothin to do with it. This is my 10/10

>>17427948
>Implying you can see all STD's
But you're already aware of herps so.
But also, dude anal is the best way to get AIDS lmao.

>>17427933

Because I have to look her in the eye and then kiss her on the mouth knowing I've done all these terrible things to her.

How can I respect her after that?

I mean, I've done with previous grillfriends but it was just never the same to me mentally/emotionally afterwords.

"In every man lurks the dark desire to
spoil that which is beautiful."

>>17427954

Not a big anal fan to be honest.

Most I'll do is fuck their pussy until I'm about to cum then pull out and put the tip in their ass and cum inside it.

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>>17427957
>How can I respect her after that?
How can you fucking respect yourself if you honestly feel a little sexy role play is that disgusting lmao
You forget it takes 2 to tango or do you just not hold yourself to the same standards as you do other people.
>"In every man lurks the dark desire to
spoil that which is beautiful."
Literally the most edgy thing I've ever read. 10/10

>>17427960
thought that's what you meant about "shot in the ass".
Either way man, I hope you're rubbering up because if you do nothing but casual sex you're bound to become riddled with stds at some point lol.

>>17427943
More simmetry doesn't mean more attractiveness there are more factors and BP doesn't have the most simmetrical face.

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>>17427964

Just got a full blood panel and AIDS/HIV test at my local Urgent Care.

>Go in
>They ask what's wrong.
>I look upset and scared.
>Tell them I got a call from a semi-recent ex-grillfriend who told me she was HIV positive and had something else but she couldn't remember the name of it.
>Start tearing up.
>Doctor is really nice
>Give me antibiotics for any possible chlamydia, a shot in the ass for gonorrhea and orders a urine test, full blood panel for HIV/Syphilis/Herpes and even a visual inspection for anything else.

Got a hard copy of the results and I'm squeaky fucking clean with paperwork to prove it.

feelsgoodman

>>17427961

But it's true and I thought it was a great quote.

How about this one:

"Sometimes the truth hurts. And sometimes it feels real good."

>>17427987
The living proof for /r9k/ that autists can have sex too.

>>17427943
I think Brad Pitt is just okay, I would probably find him attractive in real life (when he was younger anyway), but his jaws are so... intense. Not my thing. Although Brad Pitt in Fight Club is a single exception.

>>17427997

Agreed.

I think it was his basedness, hair cut and cool clothes that was a force factor too.

Once they shaved his head I found him less attractive.

No homo.

>>17428008
>>17427997
I think his jaw was less 'muscly'

>>17427798
It's a bot.

>>17427957
Getting dirty and kinky, and even treating your SO as an object during sex is fun. It is just roleplay, tho.
After we come, I just love and respect my boyfriend as I did before.

>>17427997
Edward Norton is much more fuckable than Brad Pitt in fight club.
Come on.

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Guys:
Bf and i basically only have sex in missionary position anymore. Mostly because it feels the best, is convenient and comfy. I'm ok with that and don't see a reason to intentionally "spice" things up if we both are happy with it. Question is, is he being honest? Should i still try to keep things a bit more interesting to not get him to lose interest over time?

>>17428052
>Question is, is he being honest?
Maybe.

>>17428052
Comunication is the best sex position, try it.

Women:

Do you really keep you options open? Relationship wise.

>>17428065
Well, when asked he says he's happy and content. I hope he tells the truth

>>17428067
Nope

>>17428052

Are you just lazy?

I mean, I did missionary position ALL SUMMER almost every day in a room with a big ass window facing east.

It was like working out in a sauna.

I was sweating all over her but got mad traps, biceps, core strength and stamina.

But we broke up in August of last year so now I'm back to skinny fat.

>>17428052
Personally, I love missionary, so I know it's possible for men to enjoy it enough to not need anything else. If you're really worried about it, just try having the missionary in places that aren't the bed.

>>17428078
So you dont keep that ex in your back pocket? Or atleast keep communication with him to have a rebound/fallback guy?

>>17428082
A few reasons. We are pretty busy/exhausted atm so when we get time to have sex, it's before falling into coma. So yes, being lazy is a factor. But whenever we switch things up ( we had sex in the bathroom a few times lately) we just go back to missionary to "finish" anyways. Also, doing other positions feels weird. For example, if we do doggy, i feel like he's way too far away from me. He feels the same, so we switch to missionary again after a few mins. We do other stuff too, (other fav position is me on top) but it is starting to get less and less because there's not really a point to it. It's all just filling time till we do missionary.

>>17428091
We also don't see each other often atm, so when we have sex, he usually doesn't last very long due to not having had sex in a while. I think that's a reason too. He doesn't have any desire to switch positions cause he can cum in an instant if he lets lose.
We do. We had sex on the sofa and in the bathroom a few times the last weeks

>>17428067
Depends.
When I decide I am done with someone, I am. I usually cut contact with exes/people who asked me out if I don't date them.
I try to avoid orbiters or shit like that.
I have to admit that when things got really bad with my boyfriend, I flirted with a guy a bit (nothing major - never got sexual or physical) because I wanted validation and attentions, and I wanred to know that if things didn't work out, I wasn't going to be lonely. I realised what I was doing, cut contact and worked on my relationship.
I was 17 at the time.

>>17428104

Huh, interesting.

I don't know how old you are, if you guys are just sexually vanilla, literally just too tired or just like missionary.

I enjoy it since I can look the grill in the eyes and kiss her lips/neck.

They go fucking wild with the neck kissing.

Different strokes for different folks.

Women

Ive been hearing alot of "eat the booy like groceries" why do you want your ass eaten? that's cannibalism.

>>17428125
We're 25 and 26.
We're rather vanilla together, but not completely (we do anal from time to time, i also like to milk his prostata, we are into rough nipple play, we both love to give and receive oral, so we often do 69, related to that, i sometimes facesit him and we have done some role play).

But oh well, it's not a big concern. I just need to hear that it's possible that he's actually happy with how things are.

>>17428134

I had just taken a shower and my grillfriend was fucking my cock; I asked her if she had ever licked a guys ass before. She said no and licked my ass a few times; feltgoodman but never wanted to have it done again since I have to kiss that mouth again at some point.

A few weeks later she was telling me that she was playing that 'Have you ever' drinking game with a few of her grillfriends and someone asked if you had ever licked guys ass.

Her and one other grill (out of 6 or 7 I think) had to take a drink and the other girls gave laughed and gave them shit about it.

Good times.

>>17428146

You guys are perfectly normal.

It's the go to position that is a good work out for the guy, gives the grill a break if she was riding, etc., and you can see each other and kiss so that takes care of the passion element.

You're fine and dandy, no worries.

>>17428159
>felt goodman but never wanted to have it done again since I have to kiss that mouth again at some point.

that's another thing.

women why do you instantly want to kiss after you just finished sucking Dick?

>>17428146
Nothing wrong with being vanilla.

>I also like to milk his prostate
You're not vanilla. At all.

>>17428167

As a guy, does that bother you?

I'll kiss a grill even if I get came inside her mouth.

I'll also cum inside a grill and then go down and lick her clit until she cums.

And the gayest thing I've ever done is cum on a girls tits then lick it off.

Half the girls love it and the other half are surprised.

>>17428176
Meh
I think that's pretty vanilla. But maybe i have watched too much porn

At what point is it officially a ghost? 12 hours? 24?

>>17428207
People have lives. I ignored my boyfriend for 12 hours a couple of times because my life got busy.

>>17428207
Im wondering the same thing lol i wonder who i ghosted vise versa

>>17428271
Ghosting is intencionally ignoring someone, you can't do it without knowing.

>>17425080
Both genders.g
When would it be accepable to give a gift to a girl you dated/like.
How much would i need to talk with a girl before its acceptable to give a gift out randomly.

Is it creepy or socialy unaceptable, even if its done in a silent manner?

>>17428306
Gift her your dick the second you meet her for the first date
Bitches love dick

>>17428312
/thread

>>17428306
dick in box

>>17428306
Piggybacking this post.
When do people want gifts?

I don't like receiving or giving them so it's not natural for me.

Guys and Girls

When a girl says they'd like to be friends "at least for now", is that a polite way of saying that a relationship isn't gonna happen or is there a chance?
I'm asking because I dropped a hint at a girl and she said we should be friends for now. Thing is, I still talk to her almost every day and she genuinely happy/interested when we talk and she always says she's missed me and gives me a hug when we meet.

I'm probably just overthinking this shit like always.

>>17427996
More proof /adv/ is the most judgemental board on 4chan.

When will this place be deleted? Really, it's just a bunch of narcissists who sit on their computers 8h a day arrogantly giving advice to others who do the same thing whilst feeling some sort of elevation from this?

90% of problems in life can be solved with money the rest aren't fucking problems you're drama queens most probably a bunch of histronics.

>>17428327
No way, you went to fast and her guards are up against your relationship. dont bother, keep it as you where, and slowly fade out of the idea of a relationship,
Waiting a while might be a benefit for the both of you

Guys, how do I convince my bf to fuck me more after getting him pretty much addicted to me sucking his cock?

>>17428323
nice.

>>17428335
Tell him you'll suck his dick after he fucks you.

>>17428306
would appreciate more answers/advices

>>17428306
Don't. Just don't.
First gift should be on an occasion (Christmas, birthday). You can buy her some little things like some food you know she likes or anything really cheap. Don't make your relationship about giving things to each other.

>>17428335

Do what you can to bring attention to your pussy, bend over in front of him naked or skimpy, put his hands in your pants, stuff his face in your pussy (clothed or otherwise), just get him in there and focused on it. If all else fails don't give him a choice, pin him down then ride his dick.

GUYS why would you snapchat your female friend pics of you cuddling/kissing with some girl/your gf while most likely being aware that said friend crushes on you?

>>17428472
why would you?

>>17428472
Because he thinks you're a pure friend with no feelings for him, or because he wants to make you jealous for some reason.
Maybe he thinks it'd make you happy to see that?
I don't fucking know, whenever I had a gf I was always forced to cut back on talking to female friends. But even then, what I do with my gf is private.

My dick is like 3" flaccid and 5.5" hard
How fucked am I

>>17428488
>>17428483
I see you deleting/getting deleted and reposting.
From the OP:
>>Do girls/guys like <insert specific look>?
>>Is my body part big/small enough?
>>Am I short/tall enough?
>>Would you date a virgin?
>><random insecurity>
>Some do, some don't. Preferences differ, but complexes are always a turn-off.

>>17428327
It would be in your best interests to assume that is a permanent no. She knows how you feel now. It's in her court if she wants to do anything. She might have been just trying to let you down easy.
>I still talk to her almost every day and she genuinely happy/interested when we talk and she always says she's missed me and gives me a hug when we meet.
I do this with all my friends that I care about.
>TFW a friend I rejected used those same reasonings to ask me out THREE TIMES, saying that I must have changed my mind.
Fucker. I don't talk to him any more. Doesn't respect my boundaries.

>>17428472
Just think about all the women that do this to their beta orbiters and it'll make sense.

>>17428475
>>17428510
I wouldn't do that so I really don't know

>>17428476
He did it twice, once with some girl-friend and when I asked if they are together his response was like, no it was a joke. Then he did it with his ex with whom he's back, but when I asked him if they are together his response was along maybe yes, maybe no, why does it matter


I'm really confused, help me out guys pls

>>17428527
Sounds like he's a cunt. Just drop him. He needs to mature, rather than displaying his 'relationships' for people in a vague, intentionally annoying way. Focus your affection on someone else, maybe one day return the favor. He definitely won't appreciate it, and maybe he'll learn why he shouldn't have done it to you.

>>17428410

>Meet QT3.14 in a Biological Anthropology class.
>Learn her loves dinosaurs.
>Espicially Sauropods.
>After a month of 'dating' I buy her two gifts.
>See picture; the book was expensive and the necklace was cheap.
>Our next date, I surprise her with them.
>No reaction on her face; fucking stone face.
>I ask her if she doesn't like them.
>She says that no one's ever give her a gift before and doesn't know how to respond.
>I ask her if she likes them.
>She nods and says she loves them.
>I lean over and kiss her on the cheek and say "I'm glad."

I think that's when she fell in love with me.

Not so much the book and necklace; just that I actually paid attention to her, remembered what she said/liked and then bought her well thought out gifts.

She was 21, shy and an introvert with no actual experience in having a long term relationship.

I'm was 30 and enjoyed her very much.

Anyways, winter is coming.

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>>17428544

And I'm old and senile enough to forget to attach the picture.

Told you winter was coming.

Guess it's here.

>>17428544
I personally would have hated it.
I would have appreciated the thought, but spending money on me and trying to impress me through it is something that really annoys me. It makes me feel like there's nothing good about someone but his money.
My boyfriend bought me small gifts (books, food, comics, postcards) from the very beginning and I loved it, but he never spent much money on me. Nothing expensive, nothing formal, just "I read this and thought of you".
I prefer when he does cute things for me, or he tells me nice things.

>>17428542
Yeah, dropped him aready but I'm still wondering why he did such a twatty thing to me

>>17428566

It wasn't to impress, she just really liked dinosaurs and read books about them in her spare time.

They were just old and outdated; it was a functional gift.

The necklace was her 'collar' to show she belonged to me.

>>17428306
I agree with this >>17428410
I don't understand your
>even if its done in a silent manner
That makes it MORE awkward.

>>17428207
It's when the other person has no intention of ever getting back to you ever.
I would say that you would be safe to make that assumption if it goes
>text
>1-3 days pass
>another text (please just say like, "hows it going", not something awful like "WHY ARE YOU IGNORING ME" or "HELLO????")
>3-5 days pass
Then you can safely assume that you are ghosted.

>>17428134
I'm hoping that they're using it like "fine piece of ass" meaning general genital area meaning oral.
I don't want my butthole licked.

>>17428067
Not really. I have a few people I flirt with, but aren't with for reasons like distance or it's inappropriate (eg my brother's friend)

>>17427957
That's called a Madonna-Whore complex.

>>17427780
Stop over thinking things, christ. Just do it. Stop looking to us for validation.

>>17426678
No, that's pretty standard. Consider that the girl who was confused was from PoF. Which kind of means that she makes a hobby out of dating.

>>17426654
I could live without it.

>>17426463
>>17426503
She's just not ready yet. I don't like to kiss on the first date either. Ask her out again. You'll know that she likes you if she says yes.

>>17426290
What the fuck? He permanently deleted them? That's kind of rude. I know they were in your deleted, but that's weird. He might have just been curious.

>>17426221
That is uncommon and weird. I don't know what to tell you. Sounds like she's stringing you along.

>>17426218
>ex
>matched on tinder
???

>>17426016
Go to gaming conventions.

>>17425543
You were probably a touch too cocky for their tastes, and they didn't want to be rude to you.

Girls:
When you say you want the aggressive guy that goes for what they want does it also mean he has to be at least an 8/10?

There's a girl that I'm interested in and she says that she's tired of white guys, she said "I've never met a white guy that is aggressive and goes for what he wants" and that she's only interested in the "darker shades" guys because apparently to her they have this trait or whatever. I think I've been pretty "aggressive" and throwing a lot of hints at tber but it seems like she isn't interested. Obviously people want more than one trait in a person but if you're going to say "aggressive" just say, "ih and you have to be at least 6'2''.

I don't know, to me, it seems like she doesn't know what she wants and I'm starting to think that I'm wasting my time. So girls, is this trait common for women? Also what do you think about the girl I'm interested in?

>>17428623
Post in the new thread.

Okay

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>>17426309

My ex used to push back my nail (cuticles?) and I'd let her paint them matte black; while she would paint hers bright/hot green.

We went to college together and shared a class; our instructor saw my black nails and asked if it was a religious related.

I said "No sir, it's just metal."

He played the guitar and drums plus knew ProTools so he laughed out loud.

>>17428592
>>17428544
That's adorable. I would have loved that.
Some people really don't like gifts. I like a physical thing that I can look at and remember someone I love. It could even be ring from a quarter vending machine or wildflowers from the road.
And the fact that you took the time to remember what her favorite dinosaur was? That would make me feel so special.

YOU DID GOOD, ANON

>tho I'd probably think a month was a little soon
>But I'm a snail when it comes to progressing
>You're still cute though

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>>17428714

Well she told me she just wanted to get laid since I was good looking, witty and funny; then afterwords she was going to jump ship.

I had to stop that by bringing emotions into play; this was something she wasn't used to since she was a shy, introvert and sheltered girl.

Her intention of a month of fucking turned into an 18 month relationship of fun and fucking.

And it was because of that pivotal moment.

It was a ballsy move that could easily have backfired but it worked perfectly.

It's all just a game and I'm experienced enough to say I'm Operator-tier.

>>17428878
Good work. I've been that girl, who was scared to commit. I'm kind of jealous and a little turned on.
>that age gap is tasty

>>17425625
>"If you can't love yourself then you can't love anyone else."
I fucking hate myself so much, but I love my dog and care about him more than anything else. Especially myself. Pretty sure I could feel the same way about a person if said person loved me too.

Fuck your mother, anon

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>>17428938

>Age gap.

It's complex because I'm 30 but look 25 and act like I'm 20.

I think she enjoyed being with me because of her 'Big Brother Complex', because I was technically older and also because I had my own place/steady income.

The emotional attachment just sealed the deal; I had to protect my investment after all, you know?

I was amazing at math and knew her shit when it came to dinosaurs so I would tell her that she was "Brilliant" and do things like gently cup the side of her face and say "You really are quite lovely." and kiss her; not too often but enough to keep her emotionally happy but always hungry for more.

That escalated into "I love you." but ONLY during sex, in the missionary position when I could look into her eyes and follow it up with a passionate kiss.

The ending of the relationship wasn't so great but it rarely is.

>>17429117

Wait, so:

You hate yourself.
Love your dog.
Especially love yourself?
And could love a person if they said they loved you first?

Also, I agree; fuck my cunt mother.

But I still love her; that's unconditional love.

The kind of love your dog has for you.

And you have for him/her.