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>partner is religious and conventional
>starting to refuse to have ANY kind of premarital sexual contact, because an imaginary being says it's "wrong"
>I thought such puritanical devouts no longer exist
>I though they are now dust in their graves
>but I guess not
>this must be a violation of at least one international convention
>how do I tempt him into dropping his moral beliefs and misplaced "shame" once again
>I'm too socially inept to do this Casanova shit without some advice
>right now I'm so sexually desperate and flu-addled, I can only think of begging and crying and whining and pleading
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1. Stop being sick.
2. Watch videos that excite YOU. Take notes.
3. and SHOW them that you want it.
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>>17394085
What kind of videos, if it's good porn, then that would be a matter of watching those to improve sexual technique and mannerisms right? Which I'm sure I do need, but what about the part in which I must persuade him into sexual acts to begin with? He seems ok with the quality of the acts themselves, once he caves in and consents to sexual things happening. Unless there are also videos on the pre-sex routine (?? Idk a better name), in that case, I need to know where they may be

Do I just jump him and attempt to display sexual technique? That seems a bit rapey
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>>17394078
>be flirty and touchy but not too aggressive
>when you two are alone at home dress revealing

Enough for me to absolutely want to fuck the brains out of a woman.
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>>17394090
A lot of seduction is just keeping their interest. If you guys are not doing anything of particular importance or he can be distracted then give it a shot.
The videos I'm referring to don't necessarily need to even have sex in them, just a sexy person. What makes them sexy? Keeping their attention can involve sexy clothes, sexy words, biting, licking, moaning, whimpering, purring, stroking. And even if you're nervous, maybe you can do it when the lights go out. Or cover both of you with a blanket and just feel around. You can suck their fingers, reach under their shirt...just let them know that YOU crave them.
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>>17394078
wear provocative clothing, make occasional physical contact, start chatting with him and touch the religious topic about sex, say that god wants people to enjoy their bodies and all the other way around is a muslim man-made belief, I don't know, seems like you need to wait for a time before he decides not to be a faggot. anyway why do you wanr to have sex with an extreme conservationist muslim anyway
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What the fuck, if he's religious why are you trying to convince him of something he doesn't want to do? Fucking snake.
If you're so "sexually desperate" you shouldn't have chosen that guy as a partner in the first place, pretty sure he's thinking about marrying you and more long-term stuff while you're here trying to make him defile his beliefs.
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>>17394078
Are you religious too? If not, you are in for a bad time. Devout religious anythings are never going to be normal, and they will try to force their views on anyone and anything they can.
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>>17394125
>>17394161
conservative catholic. well, without the religion bit, he would be perfect, so that's probably why. Also because I am lost as to the basics of interacting with people irl and my main hobby is staring at the ceiling.
>>17394175
yeah i get that. So far it's only been a problem with sexual things. He can decorate his room however he wants, and have whatever wedding he wants (those are useless to me anyway).
>>17394161
yeah i'll admit i'm quite a "getting what i want" person but I am sincerely into the idea of marriage with him, I just don't understand how to survive without touch until the time he decides is holy to marry or something
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>>17394078
How about don't destroy a mans morals? What's it matter if he doesn't want to? The whole point of no sex before marage is to prove your love for one another. Can't deal with it don't be with him
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>>17394078
Nature instinct is stronger than his religion.
Just keep telling him you NEED sex.
And keep trying to push it further when you make out.
If you could prevent him from masturbating, it would be best, but i guess thats impossible when you dont sleep in the same house
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>>17394245
People like you are the problem with society, act as if your better than animals then give into every instinct you have and try an force your self indulgent lifestyle upon everyone else.
It is not okay for anyone to take that sort of stance, if a woman ever told me she needed sex and would not respect my wishes, claiming she cared wile I was abstaining from from sexual interactions I would literally slap her down call her a hoe and leave her. None has the right to defile another's way of life because they can't withhold their primal urges
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>>17394262
Not the anon you are replying to, but I am quite puzzled by a certain strong posturing by some people against these "primal urges", what's so wrong about them? Why is it considered a bad thing that you "give in to"? Definitely, sexual assault and not respecting other's wishes are bad things as well, but can you imagine such heated opposition towards a woman who say, keeps pestering you to share a hobby with her? I mean, I bet you'd just leave her, not slap or call her a ho
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>>17394310
And just to add on, some people just need sex, it happens, I don't see what's wrong with that or anything wrong with being honest about it. It can become an irreconcilable difference but that doesn't make it impossible to leave each other civilly
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>>17394078
Don't bother, it is extremely difficult to change someone's mind on a religion related matter if they are already set in it.
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>>17394078
He's not consenting. Back off. You are not entitled to sex with him.

But by the same token, he is not entitled to a relationship with you. If you cannot accept his terms, and he cannot accept yours, then you are at an impasse, and there's nothing to do but leave. He can't give you what you're looking for.

Seducing him would accomplish nothing anyway. You haven't seen a relationship turn nasty until you've seen one where somebody was pushed past the bounds of their religious beliefs. This cannot end well.
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>>17394314
>some people just need sex
No, they don't. They want it, sometimes very badly, but it never rises to the level of a need. Ever.
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>>17394192
You didn't answer my question though. Are you religious? If not, you are eventually either going to have to convert/pay lip service, or you will have severe marital problems related to his belief. Especially with children.

Really, there are plenty of things that are tolerable when it comes to "S/He is perfect, except for this one thing", but religion is almost never one of those things. The more devout, the bigger the problem.

Think about it seriously and consider whetter you would want your children to be heavily religious, go to church, Sunday school... And potentially yourself too. And if you let your kids be religious, but refuse to be yourself? Your future husband will almost certainly poison their minds against you for it. And he wouldn't even be doing it out of malice or anger, which is truly the saddest part - he would be doing out of misguided good intentions.
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>>17394408
I'm agnostic. I know children are a problem, but I dislike children. So I'll try not to have them, if I do, I know it sounds cold hearted but they are his problem. It's a deal breaker if i myself have to convert, but so far it seems alright. All of Catholicism should be ok with inter-faith marriages, but some churches are so passive-aggressive about it that it's eye-rolling, all I ask is that he's a little less devout than that. Who knows? Maybe if this sexual thing doesn't end me, it'll turn out that the inter-faith marriage thing will. But I take my problem-solving one at a time.
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>>17394415
Fair enough, but I would prepare for the worst, and be pleasantly surprised with any other outcome. Good luck anon.
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>>17394310
If we are going to surcum to primal urges we should accept rape as okay, it happened on most parts of the animal kingdom, and constant nudity, theft should be such a bad thing, and the way to win a girl should be scare off or beat up her lover.
Get where I am coming from? Why can it be okay to give into one animal instinct and not others
I probably wouldn't go so far as to slap a woman I kinda just said that to reenforce my point
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Well, if begging and crying and whining and pleading didn't work, then I've got nothin'.
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>>17395318
Oh no I meant "primal urges" as in the urge to have sex itself, as that urge I don't get- either it gets really good it really bad press. Like if you want sex to the point that you do something untowards like assault, def wrong. But if you just want sex, ain't nothing wrong. If all she's doing is pestering you and pointing out how she has too-high a libido for your schtic, then just leave civilly
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>>17395856
Yeah but that gives he no right too force herself upon a guy.
If I was with a girl that was against sex before marriage and did things as suggested here by others I could be charged with sexual assault if the girls so pleased. So then why is it okay to suggest a girl to do such things to a male, when he has clearly stated that he does not want any sexual advances
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Or you could respect his wishes and stop being a fucking degenerate?
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>>17394398

How arrogant to assume that you know the potential extent of every past present and future humans' desire?

Some people want heroin so bad that they NEED it and if they can't get it they kill themselves. Some people want alcohol so bad that they do the same if they are denied it.

Those reactions are both results of chemical influences, and hormones are no different. I'm not saying OP is like that, and honestly, I think OP is a retard.
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Im in the same position as you (bfwithbeliefs), I would recommend just masturbate if you really need it, dont push him over, if you want sex just tell him that you will masturbate if he wants to watch cool, thats the tops you get.
Dont fuck him i repeat dont fuck him,
Try find things that are cool for him and his beliefs , rather than your own
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