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Physics or engineering?

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I'm supposed to start university in a while, and I need help deciding what to pick to study. I'm deciding between physics and engineering.

I was always lazy to do math, so when I realised my life would probably end up like shit if I didn't learn math, I decided to take a gap year to try and learn all of high school math, to make up for years of laziness.
I always believed I was inherently bad at it and was scared of it, but after doing it for almost a year and actually focusing and understanding what I was learning, I realised it's not so bad.

I chose to learn math because I wanted to study physics at a university. Physics has started to interest me first when I got into high school. The teacher did most of the job because he made everything sound super interesting.

But here lies the problem, as far as I've read, physicists have a hard time finding a job, at least the average ones, and I doubt I'd become anything special because I'm not really that good at math, and when they do find a job, it's paid way less than for example, an engineering job.

Since I want my job to do something with physics, here comes engineering into play. As far as I understand, it's far easier to get a job as an engineer, they're not so hard on math, and in the end it pays more. Even if I decided to do engineering, I still wouldn't know which one to choose.

I would really like to do physics and learn the theory behind everything and how everything works and interacts, but since I would be studying it in a recently learned foreign language, and I'm not confident in my math ability, and physics is basically applied mathematics, I really don't think this would be a good choice.


I really have trouble deciding, I'm not all that well informed, and I'd like some input for you guys, hopefully you have some info that could help me make the final decision!
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Being a just an engineering major can be an option for at least the first year, you can easily switch, just make sure you aren't
1)following stem meme just bc you were told to
2)try to find something that you know there will be a job market for.
Don't listen to people who throw fluff in your direction(i.e. Follow your passion and it will lead to a happy life)
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Physics will certainly take longer to establish a career in, but it's not impossible. If all you want is a bachelor's, then don't bother with physics because it will be difficult (not impossible) to find a job as compared with an engineering major. If going on to get a masters/PhD sounds appealing to you, by all means go for it. Also keep in mind that both majors are pretty much the same for the first couple of years, so I wouldn't feel pressured to decide just yet.
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>>17388797
Engineers have an equally bad time with jobs. Just major in what you love and intern in your summers. Just cut the crap and go to a temp agency. They'll get you in a position that'll be comfy.
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>>17388911
I go with this one. Undergrad engineering is super easy to find jobs. I was a computer science major although not engineering, it was in the same school. On my final year I was getting an interview for every 3 applications I sent out.

Also getting a master/phd degree is really worth it in todays society. Its true that in the current age a college degree is like a high school degree 40 years ago and a post bachelors degree is worth a college degree. Although the price tag for a graduate degree is 6 figures just think of it as an investment in your future which will net you more than the 6 figure price tag
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>>17388931
> Just major in what you love and intern in your summers.

I remember when I was 18 and had no real world experience
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>>17388911
This guy, I did a Bsc physics degree because I loved physics. By the third year I'd lost interest and now working in engineering!

Not saying this will happen but I'd be wary of doing physics unless you want a career in the field.

Also there is a shit tonne of math!
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>>17388949
Ok I was mean. Interning is very crucial for getting a job after graduation. I mean with an engineering degree you can still get one relatively easily. But it helps get you a higher paying job.

Also you need to like what you are doing but at least do you research in what you want. If you good at it doesnt matter but that goes for the top 1% of people who are so good they can be successful at anything. Dont go to a temp agency if you can that is a scam that will take most of your hard earned money.
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>>17388949
What do you do now?

Companys aren't hiring no experience college grads. They're hiring interns and then keeping them once they're trained, assuming they perform well.

I only told him to major in what he loves because physics has a tob of applications. He didn't say he was thinking about getting a degree in Minority LGBT&A studies with a minor in African Socialism.
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>>17388968
true a difference in physics and engineering is nothing compared to picking a liberal arts degree.

I have two degrees. One in physical science(general science) and I am a class away from earning a cs degree. In my experience I got no interest with my physical science degree. I started looking for my jobs in the beginning of my would-be senior year and have worked at two internship. Before I was hired at this current internship I had an interview for every three job applications, which is amazing in todays job market.

(was this >>17388964 person)

I am not saying that you could do this with a physics degree but my experience says go with engineering. You still go through a lot of physics with a lot of engineering degree so you are totally doing abandoning physics.
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>>17388994
I just know that if you gp the typical engineering route you're in for a rough time. Everyone I know in engineering is either working another job or going for the phd.

Companies don't hire college grads as "professionals" anymore. They hire temps and if that works they give you the real position. I have a shot at being the only analyst at an engineering firm, but I'm going in through a technician route. Math degree btw.
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Thanks for the responses, so far judging from the various responses, I'm still torn between the two, leaning towards engineering though.

But as >>17388911 says, I can still decide later if that's the case.
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>>17389036
Well thats every major. Most of the time people dont work the same field that they got a degree in. Its really a stepping stone to get a job that you can live off of.
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>>17389602
I'm saying that you can if you're willing to work through other avenues and managers themselves have told me that they prefer to go through temp agencies
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>>17389168
Either way, you will be taking basic physics and calculus courses so you might as well go for an engineering degree.

An engineering degree takes a lot of credit hours however. If you feel like that's too much, find out if a physics degree requires less. (In my school it doesn't take so much time if you study at a leisurely pace)

If on the other hand you still don't feel satisfied with just applied science, you could always double major. I'm trying to do that now with engineering and comp sci and sometimes I feel like I'd rather aim a minigun at my face with the amount of work but I have several moments where it all just pops together and I understand a lot more about both subjects.

And yeah, do something useful in your summers to increase your potential. If you go to a research university, try to help out in a lab, or become a recitation leader.
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